NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - LOUD AND CLEAR Messages in the NFL

Episode Date: March 20, 2019

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you all news around the league including Clay Matthews heading to the Rams along with Blake Bortles (05:43:27), Randall Cobb signing with the Cowboys (11:54:21) and what Le’Veon Bell had to say about big Ben. (16:58). Could Peyton Manning being heading to the broadcast booth? (24:05). The heroes take a trip down to the depths of Ricky’s DMs (32:09) and then discuss the loud and clear messages in the NFL right now. (34:30)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and I am joined in a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. Not related to this show, but another... Go on, Mark. Mark?

Just saying? Very saucy start to the Wednesday. Hump Day show. And again, no show on Friday because we will be on airplanes. four different airplanes, really a sign of the times about what's happening with the people behind the scenes of the show. We will all be flying to Phoenix for the owner's meetings where we will be interviewing coaches and GMs. Last year, I remember this show we were able to tease who we'd be talking to, but this year it seems to be coming together a little slower.

So we don't know yet we'll be speaking to. We don't have any confirmed yeses. We do have six confirmed noes. So we're going to... They were quick with those responses. We're going to read them out loud. One of them is a future Hall of Famer. Coach is my favorite team.

Oh, did Bill say no? I mean, we've put it in. I don't think Bill is familiar of the request ever came. He was... At Door 1 of 80, it was like absolutely... Basically... That was one just put fun on our list because, like, you never know.

But he doesn't give anyone. A shadowy league figure came to us and said, make a list, a wish list, if you will, of coaches and some GMs. We did that. And then when the list was done, we didn't even think of Belichick because Bill is kind of above it all. You know what, rightfully so, whatever, Greg. Congratulations on your great success as a fan.

But we said, why not? Throw Bill on there. He goes to the owner's meetings. He goes there with Linda and he wears the Hawaiian shirts and he has a good time. He wears the shorts, puts the calves on. I think they played some tennis one year. We saw them coming back. When we were there.

Who knows? The one thing with Belichick, Wes, and you know this as a Belichick file, he's unpredictable. So would it be completely absurd if he ended up on our podcast? Kind of, but we had to ask. I think he takes a lot of pride in being unpredictable. I think that is one of his signature moves. This felt predictable to me that almost like an automatic reply, we got a no back within like 12 seconds. And not for Bill either.

It was from their people who probably laughed, I would say. One of those ball boys. Yeah. we don't talk about them oh mark a big show coming up today a new seg called loud and clear

in which we will spin through the league and what teams are sending a very obvious succinct on the nose message to all of us

like a billboard like a billboard it's a billboard this is this is what we're going for right now so we'll talk about the teams we believe are doing that and we might not all agree as well and that's part of the fun that's the good thing

about whether it's sports talk radio or podcasts you don't want everybody in agreement at all times sometimes they often ask you to manufacture disagreement right we don't do that here never it's healthy nor do we acknowledge what a manufactured joke and uh and we're going to hit the news as well uh including a couple of long time packers on the move And before we do that, we have to say hello to a woman who has been missed over the past week and a half. Kent Brown filled in, did a really nice job, but something about Kent. Kent is on my radar, and we're going to deal with that at the end of the show. But otherwise, Kent really did good work in your absence.

But Ricky Hollywood, Erica Tamposi is back behind the glass from her trip around the world. Welcome back, Ricky. Hello, boys. How are we doing? You seem refreshed. You actually told us this morning that you actually missed us. I did. I did.

It was such a crazy, incredible, amazing, amazing, amazing trip. But I did feel a little fomo. I think Dan put it really well while you were gone that it says a lot about how we feel about you that we really didn't give you any grief whatsoever for leaving, like, during the most busy time of the season, like in the most unprofessional way possible. We would have killed other producers. Literally the most, yeah, we would have been, in fact, we have. Like, we would have been group texting, God, you know, but since it's like, hey, it's Erica, you know, take off for you. It's cute that she doesn't care.

I found a refreshing. Well, I, to be, to be completely honest, I didn't know that it was free. Right. I mean, that's a point. Don't worry. We know. All right. So good to, good to have you back.

Did anybody recognize you? A couple people. Yeah. I met up with a couple of people, and then there was this one guy who works at a brewery in Scotland, who totally hooked it up. He DM me, and I happened to answer that one. And there was nine of us. He hung out with us, went to the bars with us after we invited him out because he was so cool. He was such a great guy.

It was really fun. So we kind of created that for you in a way. Yeah, thank you. He made such an impression. Yeah. All right. And we'll talk about a little bit more DM talk later, but for now let's dig into the news. Hey, I'm a pass rusher.

Before anything else, I'm a pass rusher. That is the voice of Clay Matthews during his Green Bay Packer Hayday. And after a long run with the pack, he has moved on officially. He is now a member of the Los Angeles Rams, the pass rusher. And he told us, he's a pass rusher.

First and foremost, signed a two-year deal. worth a max of 16.7.75 million. The Rams have officially announced this. It's a done deal. So the former first round pick, 26th overall in the 2009 draft number 52. This guy will be in the Ring of Honor in Green Bay one day. But, Wes, in terms of the modern day, what does this, is this a signing that made the Rams better? Do you think Clay Matthews has anything left in the tank at this age?

It's a tricky question. Anytime a guy on defense is on the wrong. side of 30. It's 32. Coming off a bad year and he had 3.5 sacks in 16 games. Only 12 quarterback hits. He had one of the lowest pressure rates of any pass rusher in the league last year. When a guy has a season like that, you never know whether it's a sign that he's already

off the cliff or if in a new scheme he can come in with a, you know, a change of scenery and have a bounce back year. I think he probably has a little bit left in a tank, but it was a miserable year last year for him. He's had one good season really out of the last three or four because he's really struggled in 2016. But I do remember, you know, DJ talking about, and some people have watched

the Wade Phillips defense over time just talking about how many sacks Wade Phillips creates. When Sean Merriman won defensive rookie the year, it's like 11 of those sacks were him one on one against a running back. And so you're getting Matthews on the outside. They need just some sort of capable

second pass rusher with Fowler. He's in a good defense to make him look better. Mark, is it you, the Rams have been on your radar in the past, and I will say this, this is such a Rams signing that sometimes it feels almost too cute. Clay Matthews joining the Rams, and I know it's another guy that you put on the program, but is it almost like a too much of a less need era Rams move? Do you think this is the right move or just like

great fit for a guy that came from L.A. and a team that likes to have marketable players? I don't think it's a, it's not not an on-my-radar move because they needed pass-rushing help, and it is a little cute to, you know, take a flyer on Clay Matthews. Oh, you get them back in the Coliseum before you move out of it. I mean, I guess that's part of their thinking, but the Rams are a lot less on my radar after the Super Bowl. Good.

Because they got their come-up? Well, because it was too easy of a story, and a lot of it felt made for TV, mostly NFL Network. And at this point, they've got a harder road back. That makes them more intriguing. Let me ask you a question, Greg Rosenthal. Another move made by the Rams. Blake Bortles, cut recently by the Jaguars,

the former number three overall pick, lands in L.A. as the backup to Jared Gough. Are the Rams today better at backup quarterbacks than they were with Sean Mannion at the end of the 2008 season? Is this an upgrade at the backup position? Who knows? I've never seen Sean Mannion play meaningful snap, so it's a tough call. Well, against vanilla defenses in the preseason, he's looked awful.

Yeah, maybe they're a little better. They only have to pay $1 million, which is, you know, the cheapest veteran backup quarterback in the league, period. So from that vantage point, they needed to save some money to spend it elsewhere. It's fine. And he's making, I think, $6 million overall because the Jags contract. Right. The Jags are still paying him $5.5 million.

And so they get to pay $1 million less because he has offs. you know, offsets in his contract or whatever. That's fine. It does have one of those moves that has a chance to make Sean McVeigh look like a genius because, like, if he comes in and has two or three games, everyone's just loving. I mean, I think the Rams are telling you it's a better situation.

They had four years to self-scout Mannion, and at times seemed like they liked him a lot, and he's gone. They brought someone else in to replace him. You spent all that time with him and you found someone better for very low amount of money. Right. And they also did that thing where it's like,

Hey, Sean Mannion, you know, who knows, maybe another team will take a chance on him for a third or fourth round pick to be coming. It's like, no, all that talking up is not going to make someone give up a draft. No, if like 22 quarterbacks were like eternally kidnapped, then Sean Mannion's value starts to hike. I've compared McVeigh to this generation's Bill Walsh, who famously rehabilitated Steve Young when he was at the bottom of his career and turned him into a Hall of Famer. Steve Young did not have a major, major, major mechanical flaw that everybody has tried to fix and cannot fix. I think that's the difference.

I don't know if Blake Bortles is fixable. Mark is eternally kidnapped a nice way of saying someone was, you know. Well, they're not coming back. And we'll be looking for them for a long time. So it's a kidnapping, likely a death, but the case is never solved. I don't know where you come up with likely a death. That would preclude you from being an investigator. You need evidence of that.

They've been kidnapped that much we know. You've got to triple source it. Greg is dressed like some sort of what Los Angeles PI today, but you've got to actually do work. I would love to. Jake, I would love to. I mean, they would put me on the missing quarterbacks case. 22 disappear all at once.

I mean, that's going to be a long case. In other news. There's a lot of things to find out. So Clay Matthews' history in Green Bay. So is Randall Cobb. In the second wave of free agency, the slot receiver agrees to sign with the Dallas Cowboys. a deal worth $5 million, one-year contract. So essentially a prove-a-deal for Cobb,

who's been in regression statistically for several years now. But the Cowboys, after letting Cole Beasley, leave to go to Buffalo, get Cobb. Mark, what do you think about this move? Is it an upgrade in Big Day at the slot? It is not an upgrade. It's underwhelming attached to a sort of starry name of a player who, like we point out with 10 to 12 guys,

who make these kind of signings every off-season. It's beyond the name. Who is this player today? I would rather have Cole Beasley. They split. It didn't go down well, and you've downgraded essentially the position. It's much cheaper.

I think they were looking to save money at the position, but even $5 million. I'm the only one who seems to like this. I know Cobb is, you know, it's more about the game name thing, Wes, and all that. But... Game names. They like them.

Doesn't it feel like Aaron Rogers, we give a total pass and we are oh well Mike McCarthy was ruining him and the whole system is stagnant Randall Cobb is also playing and that says maybe a fresh start and his career could be uh you know relaunched in a way well I would retort with if he can't do it with Aaron Rogers what makes you think you can do with deck Prescott and averaging 10 yards per catch and about three touchdowns per year and getting it done you're I think Greg's right the juice and the juice in his legs evaporated a few years ago. When Bill Belichick, when you're a extremely versatile

and tough, smart slot receiver and the Patriots have no interest in you, to me, that's bad sign. The Packers really had no interest in keeping him. So please stop it. Social media managers with your, this

cowboy's offense starting attacked is fire, Cobb. Well, that's their job. That was just one tweet I saw. It's fire season. It was like, right, it was like, this Cowboys His lineup is fire, DAC. Okay, that's fine. I mean, they did.

Zeke, Zeke, Zeke's great. And then Cooper, Cobb, Witten. It was like, okay. Just names. It's okay. Remember how they dealt with Bryce Petty on the Jets? Not everything is fire. There's a quarterback competition in New York.

Right. Well, I mean. You got to be careful. It's like our, you know, I love our NFL social media team, but they had one yesterday. They were like, name a better quarterback wide running back combo. and they had a picture of Lamar, Jackson, and Mark Ingram. And then everyone was like, oh, there's like 22 ones better than that. That's not that.

And get ready. No comment. Get ready. It's trope season. Remember last year, I believe it was Stephen Jones who told us that Tavon Austin, the webback, was going to have 20 touches in Dallas's offense in 2018. Well, guess what? Randall Cobble have 80 to 100 catches.

Probably will be a prediction we hear. At some point, that he will become a Pro Bowl level slot guy once more. I'll believe it. Tavon's still there, by the way, a move that, you know, never made it to the level. Should we have like seven touches last year? Of our show, but he was re-signed.

I would actually take the over on, I think I would go Austin over Randall Cobb for yards. Wow. No way. Just going to lean into it. Tavon Austin, like circling back to the absurdity of the statement last spring about all the touches. I think he got less than 10 touches total the entire year.

Like literally. He was injured for like two and a half months. He had eight receptions and six rushes. 14 touches. All right, moving on. Did not take long for Vante's Burrific to find work. A day after the veteran linebacker was cut by the Cincinnati Bengals, he signs a one-year contract worth up to $5 million with the Oakland Raiders.

And he reunites with D.C. Paul Gunther, who was the D.C.U. Cincinnati from 2014. to 2017, Berwick's golden years. It also, Wes, you might find this interesting, reunites Berwick with Antonio Brown, the man he viciously concussed in the 2015 playoffs also, or 16 playoffs. One of the lowest moments in the history of a franchise that's had a lot of low moments that Saturday night in Cincinnati. I'd say more bemused than interesting.

Okay. Interested? Yeah, I think the Raiders are really taking it back to the 70s as far as. who they're bringing into their franchise right now and bringing in the guy who tried to decapitate the receiver you just traded for? A guy who... They can't hurt him, though.

Let's be honest. What are the odds Vontes Perfect is on the week one roster? People have told him he shouldn't play anymore because he has concussions. And he might be the one guy who says, I don't really care. You know, I'd rather play football than care about my health long term. But I don't even see Vontes Perfect as guaranteed to be on this roster. Well, if you're Mark Davis, you're going to have to get out your little typewriter and prepare all these ownership notes

saying we totally believe in Vante's Perfect and we back him no matter what he does the same way that Mike Brown did in Cincinnati. You ready for that? It's a reminder too that it's especially on the pro side, maybe not the draft, but this is Gruden's, this is Gruden's party. This is his show.

He is in charge. It's not. If you didn't know by now, plug in. I'm just saying I don't think like Mike Mayak would be signing Vantes Perfect. Antonio Brown had this to say about Vante's Perfect. It's all positive. man maybe now it is it wasn't then right speaking of brown the former stealer his former

stealer teammate levyon bell becomes the latest player to publicly tee off on ben rafflesberger uh in a interview with sports illustrator sports illustrated it sounds like a good magazine also that would be a good job to have uh guy drawing cartoons bell discussed his experience with big ben and uh he had this to say the organization wants to win tomlin wants to win tomlin wants wants to win. Ben wants to win, but Ben wants to win his way, and that's tough to play with. Ben won a Super Bowl, but he won when he was younger. Now he's at this stage where he tries to control everything, and the team let him get there. So if I'm mad at a player and I'm not throwing him the ball, if I'm not throwing A.B. the ball and I'm giving Juju all the shine or Jesse or Vance or whoever it is, and you know consciously you're making your other receiver mad, but you don't care. Well, it's hard to win that way. Let me tee up on this, Chris Wesleying, because, you know, first of all, yes, the Steelers have not won the Super Bowl and whatever it is now. This will be 10 years. 10 years.

But in Big Ben's illustrious career, and it has been an illustrious career, maybe not always off the field, but on the field, he just came off a 5,000 yards, 35 touchdown season. He's going to be in the top five in all passing categories. He's won two Super Bowls. and been to three. In almost every other case, that type of resume is unimpeachable and you don't get killed ever in the press by your players. But Ben seems to be the exception to the rule.

Consider the source. Antonio Brown and Levion Bell, who, by the way, are making many more millions because they played with Ben Rathosberger instead of an average quarterback. They lost all credibility with me. One guy couldn't report to his teammates for the entire season.

The other guy couldn't report to his teammates in the biggest game of the year, and now they're criticizing the quarterback who does report to his teammates. I just don't care what Levi-on-Bel. Yeah, but by that logic, you wouldn't care what Ben Rathesberger had to say. This is a guy who's almost lost his spot

because he's sexually assaulted women. That's not the same logic. I mean, but we've heard from teammates throughout his career. You're allowed to care. I'm saying I don't care what these two players have to say about anyone right now. I do find it interesting in today's day and age, though,

to hear anyone talking. about their own quarterback or their former quarterbacks away because people just stay away from it. It used to be much more common. In 60s and 70s, you would talk some trash about your old teammates, about good players on other teams. It was just sort of part of, you know, because it's normal. It's like we don't like everyone in this building.

Sometimes we talk trash about them on the show, subtly. You know, they don't like, some people don't like us. Like people don't like their coworkers, but it's unique at a quarterback position to see it pretty widespread throughout his career. Not just whispers, but people talking on the record. They have voted team MVP's in Pittsburgh for 16 years of Ben Rothersberger's career. He's won at once.

Here's the last winners. Antonio Brown, Heath Miller, Antonio Brown, Lev Bell, Antonio Brown, Lev Bell, Antonio Brown, Juju Smith. That tells me something that your teammates, for whatever reason, don't like, or at least enough of them, don't like the way you do business. I'm with you, but the idea of comparing it to working in a big company doesn't fly with me because we automatically dislike a bunch of people. our company because there's different tiers of us. Right. And when we rip on people, it's typically ripping on the people up on the third floor

that didn't do enough for us in the show. Anyone above you, but I think to the point, and I get the sourcing of Bell and Brown is dubious on some level, and that says more about them, probably all of this than anything else. But they're talking about the locker room

and they're talking about the fact that there's a player or players, but certainly Big Ben, that is treated with a dose of favoritism by coaches and ownership and everyone else. And they don't like that part of it. The other thing is that Big Ben by now is so much older than the vast majority of the people he plays with on the Steelers.

Sure. Like we just heard... You would never hear this about Breeze or Rivers or Brady or... I think they're fundamentally different people. Not everyone's going to be a great leader necessarily, but Big Ben has been there for the team for a decade. Wait, here's the thing. I've been making the case forever. I think Big Ben is weirdly underrated.

I mean, he is an unbelievable quarterback. It really doesn't change that much about that. It's just interesting to hear the people around him bring this up. And I should make it clear, Greg, something you said earlier. There were allegations attached to Rothelsberger, the sexual assault, and it led to a six-game suspension by the league for violating the personal conduct policy. And I wonder how much of that will always linger with them inside a locker room because you don't see any of the other big names have that type of track record.

It's his character. I mean, the whole story behind them winning the Super Bowl the first time around was this guy Rathesberger rubbed everyone. the wrong way and okay they kind of when they won in the end it's kind of like all he he won us over a little bit that hey this guy's good that he won but when he first came in heinz war jerome bettis it's like they thought this guy was a jerk and so and so that might just be talking up vontes perfect as a perfect teammate so you never know let's see what i'll be interested to see what antonio brown is saying about derrick car after the season and leff Bell about Jets management.

I get Wes's side of it as well. It's, but it is interesting because it just, it doesn't happen. And usually, and Carson Wentz being a perfect example a couple months ago, if a quarterback in the face of the franchise or the biggest star or the longest lasting star of the franchise catches fire, you'll have guys coming to his defense and saying Ben's a hero, he's a legend on this team, he's a leader. That doesn't seem to happen in Pittsburgh when these things come out of the world. Even with his interactions with the media, Ben Rothesburg.

The way he talks about his teammates, sometimes the way, I just think for whatever reason he rubs people the wrong way. I agree with that. And I'm not defending his character. I think he does have character issues. I also think every quarterback in the history of the NFL who's been with the same franchise for 15 years as the face of the franchise gets preferential treatment. That's just the way it's done.

I don't have a huge problem with that. If you're a fan of a team and he's been there for 15 years, won you multiple Super Bowls, he's my favorite too. The whole idea of like Bell and Brown and these guys, though, getting mad because they think that he's, you know, preferring some teammates to others and there was that whole, you know, rumor, which is kind of nonsense that he intentionally fumbled because he didn't like a play call that Todd Haley made,

which I don't find credible at all, and there's proof that that's not true. But it's just the fact that his teammates were thinking it is just interesting and, you know, unique. that they thought they... Right. Antonio Brown, by the way, for all the speculation and the whispers

and insinuations that he was looking to juju, yes, juju led the league in catchers or whatever, but Antonio Brown got his too. I think he was like $100, $1,400, and 15 last year. I think he just didn't like where it was going in the next coming years. All right. Let's move on. Peyton Manning.

How about that guy? He's a little quiet. He's out of football now and he has not gotten into broadcasting. many people thought he would. Well, check out those ESPN Plus things or whatever he's doing. I did not check those out. Should I?

I don't even know what ESPN plus is. I only watch NFL media. They've been trying to pump it up, but I haven't really seen it. I'm only connected to NFL media. I'm also connected to Golden Moments presented by McDonald's, introducing the new Big Mac with bacon,

cheesy bacon fries, and quarter pounder with bacon at participating McDonald's for a limited time only. Is it the best thing to happen to McDonald's classics or to bacon on that note what is the golden moment of the week how about a golden moment for Peyton manning finally making the move nailed it into broadcasting ESPN is courting the great quarterback to join its Monday night football team this coming from the Hollywood reporter so from a real source ESPN president Jimmy Petaro and content chief Connor Shiel made a trip to

Denver on March 11th to meet with Manning, who has been mentioned before, of course, for a broadcast role. Monday Night Football coming off a semi-disasterous 2018 season. Got bailed out by the Cowboys who hired Jason Witten out of the booth. The Burger Mobile is dead. Obviously, there are changes coming, and Peyton Manning sliding into the booth to me makes a lot of sense. I know I'm probably a much bigger Peyton Manning fan as a personality than everyone else in

this room, but I think he could potentially be. a big hit in this role. I don't know if he would do it, but that's my two cents. No, I'm closer to you. I would like to see what Peyton Manning does. I don't know. I think it's too hard to predict

whether he'd be great or good. I don't, it's hard to imagine him being terrible. You never, you know, just because he seems comfortable on a microphone, but I think he'd be great. He's got a sense of humor and I support it. I mean, he's smart. He's got a sense of humor. He has an intellectual viewpoint of the game

that is almost unmatched. and he's comfortable in front of the camera. You add it all up, and I think he has, I don't want to say Romo-like potential, but he has potential to be an instant star as well, and if I'm ESPN, I would roll the dice and go after him hard. Now, Peyton Manning has more money than God, between Papa Johns and his playing days,

he might not need this job. This is not like a cupcake thing where you just roll someone in two. It's a ton of work, it's a ton of analysis. You're under a lot of pressure coming off the Whitten thing to come in and shine. And I think Tony Romo has made this a much tougher gig for anyone stepping in

where you've done no broadcasting, and then suddenly you're supposed to jump in as the color analysts on Monday night football eight months from now. That is not an easy job. It's funny I thought Joe Thomas was asked a couple times this past week because he's been linked to it a few times.

Hey, wouldn't you want to do this? Wouldn't this be such a dream for you? And he basically was like, I got to be honest with you. I watched Jason Witton do this, and he didn't seem like he was having any fun. So it gave him pause. And it's like, I think what happened to broadcasting

where you go find out if you're good at it, number one, for a couple years? Thank you. And if you enjoy it before, because what if Peyton Manning is great, that's great. But if he was an ultra dud, A, we have to suffer for it. It totally flames his entire, the way we look at Peyton Manning, the same way we look entirely different at Jason Witt.

Now it's about, you know, the Probo Trophy falling apart and the four or five lines he had that no one can forget. If that's Peyton Manning in a year, if he flunders it, because that happened, that's happened to other big time quarterbacks. And I think that- Johnny Unite is flamed out hardcore as a broadcaster. But that's part of the game. That's part of the industry. It doesn't have to be. He has to really want it.

I wish that particular station or channel or broadcast, whatever, I know I'm tilting at windmills here. I just wish they cared a little bit more about the actual broadcast of the game and a little bit less about names, bells and whistles, graphics, stories. lines manufactured debates but this is what they're doing they're taking a guy who's never broadcasted nobody has like tony romo right he's the exception and now everybody wants their romo witten was among the worst we've ever seen in any sport i mean i i think Peyton manning is not a good speaker i think he's got a terrible sense of humor he's not funny and he's probably not gonna be a good enough clip that for your social real i want that set out on an NFL channel as i said i am definitely a bigger fan of Peyton Manning than other people

in this room. I would like it. I think it would be worth a shot. Here's the bigger thing. I don't think he's worried about legacy, all that stuff. Or, you know, what is reputation? Because I think when he if he was going to do it, he'd want to do a great job. The bigger thing is he can do whatever he wants in his life. And this takes up

suddenly you're back in the NFL. I know it's not like being a player, but you're on the road for 24 weeks a year. You've got some young kids. You've got a wife who you really, you know, you haven't really been around at home that much. And suddenly you're like, from Friday to Monday. He can't go hang out in New Orleans

and watch Eli play The Saints. He can't do whatever he wants on the golf course or whatever Peyton Manning's doing. That's why they're courting him and he is not courting anyone. It's like that's a lot to give up. All right. And finally in the news, Trevor Simeon got another job.

He is the new backup quarterback of the New York Jets with Josh McCown undecided on his future. Simeon joins the room that includes Davis Webb. Remember Davis Webb? So similarly, there are people that are bigger Trevor Simeon fans in this room than me. I love this Jets team.

Not bad. Getting all my favorites. I love James. Get them all together. I love James and Crowder. You got Levi-M-Bell, love him. Simeon, that's a nice, solid backup. Who else did they add?

Which one of those doesn't fit? That's about it. All right. That's what's happening. Tom Compton. And then Tom Compton is a huge signing. We got Chandler Canisaro back in the building. Brian Poole.

Henry Anderson, they re-signed him. That was kind of an under-the-radar one. That was nice. Daniel Brown tied in from the Bears. Who doesn't like Jamal Adams right now? Great Twitter account. I'm getting a little nervous, by the way. It's coming.

The Jets' new uniforms. It's a sneaky, more stressful fan experience than I expected. It's an important time, and if it goes wrong, I can tell you personally, all you'll have is just a bunch of knuckleheads. It'll be your fault that the uniform does not work. I assume I just assume that's how it will end up working out. Or it could be like you make a disastrous uniform change and then you win six Super Bowls over 18

years and you know what are you calling you're not a fan of the Patriots current uniforms to bad uniform come on by the way but using the page as an example what didn't it used to be such a big deal when new uniforms were rolled out they would just show up one year and now

when those ones came yeah that's fair there wasn't all the attention but I do remember when they switched the uniforms because it also coincided with Parcells that it was like oh my god like everyone at least in the New England area it was such a meaningful moment of like, okay, we're going to change now. We've got the flying elvye.

Nashville got the draft because of their uniform unveiling a year ago when they got like 50,000 people in Town Square. Wait, what? That's true story. They also had a music act that was playing, but that was seen as like a major win for the entire downtown sector showing how alive the city was for this unveiling of the Titans universe. I did not know that little fact to it.

Look it up. That's how they decide who goes to the draft? That's not exactly what I said, but it helped them. It helped in the pitch of Nashville as the draft location. All right. Pitch Nug. I just told you it. Now you know.

Great. Are you annoyed that we're like stunned that you know something that we did not? That happens all the time. It seems a little bit of contemptuous. That's surprising. That's what's happening in the news. Let's see. What are we going to do?

Ricky, what's going on with your DMs? We talked about it before you went away. They're pretty good. You want to hear one? Yes, let's hear one of your DMs. Is that Desiree? I, um... That's my intro.

That's my intro. Okay, DM. It's going to be... It sounded like Joe Martin Armatrain. Is that your vocals? No, no. It's just in our library. Can I hear that again?

Yeah, sure. Now it's time for Ricky's DMs. Leave me for you. Okay. Poor man Chaudet. Kind of like that. Yeah, right? All right.

Today's from at Sirius M.H. You are slightly bent over in every picture. It's very amusing. Okay. All right. That's the whole thing. Give us the closing music. What are you supposed to do with that information?

Stand up straight? I was expecting something far more vile on the DM. Well, that's, you know, not. We're starting slow. so subtly suggestive in my mind it is body talk i think it's like a bent over it's a weird it's just a weird route that you're going down to me maybe like when you're with other people in photos or something i'm i'm not sure what they mean and this is a man or a woman or what i serious is also a radio network yeah it's not no it's like s e r i o u s not maybe maybe that code

doesn't need to be correct speaking of if you if you do like ricky vocals she broke out some rap songs that she recorded as a teen on the Jessel Nick and Rosenthal Vanity Project and they are something else. She put it a lot of time into them. Like years of my life when I was 15. It's like actually. You had a rap history.

It was shocking. Interesting. Did you have natural? The recovery. No. Solid production though. Solid production, I will say. One of the songs was kind of a banger, but.

Really? But the rapping was embarrassing. It wasn't, yeah, it wasn't good. Would have been good to share on our podcast, I could be happy to play it. That was the most predictable way for that conversation. No, it is.

Even as I was like, should I bring this up or no, it's going to go out of this. Withholding the content and pitching the other show. Same time. Effectively done. Segment time, loud and clear.

Like I have any control. Loud and clear. And this is a segment in which, West, what do we do? What are we doing on Loud and Clear? It's about a billboard, isn't it? Some organizations have sent very, clear messages in the first week of free agency as far as how they see themselves and where

they are going in 2019 they might as well put this message on a billboard because it's that obvious it's so easy to see the clarity is there it's like play like a jet that was the jet that was their old one that's not really that's not really that which came from play like a raven and morphed into play like a brown or like like buy one get one free whopper well unlike that's clear unlike the mirages is usually trumped up by marketing campaigns. These are actual things that are happening. All right, here we go. We're going to spin through the divisions

and throw out some different teams. Let's start in the AFC East and West, the Buffalo Bills. What are they being loud and clear about? We are out of cap jail and back among the living. That's what the billboard says. And underneath, it just says really in small letters. We're determined to showcase Josh Allen

as our electric talent. Everything they're doing is determined to get Josh Allen a lot more help than he had last year because they have the dollars to do it now. How did they end up in cap jail, by the way? Doug Whaley, I believe was a previous GM, left them in some straits that the new GM considered kind of dire,

so they were willing to sacrifice 2018. Usually there's a lot of star players or big signings that go sideways. I assume that's how it happened. Not a lot of payoff for that jail sentence. I don't remember a lot of huge names. Even now, here are their highest paid players. It's remarkable.

Star Lodolele, that's their number one. Mitch Morris is number two. I mean, so they have some more spending to go, to your point. I mean, Cole Beasley's got to be up there. Yeah, he's seventh behind Joe Brown, Trent Murphy, LaShawn McCoy, John Brown, Mike. Oh, okay. I agree that they believe Sean McDermott, I think, is a quality head coach.

I agree with him. And I think they're giving him every chance possible. This is year three for McDermott to make a real push. That his coaching can coach up the defense. but that the offense under Brian Dable needed way, way, way more talent, and they were aggressive about it. I mean, they also, you talk about Doug Whaley. They allowed Doug Whaley, the previous ownership and this current ownership, to hang around an in-house fight from what we know with multiple head coaches who were not long for the organization. So whatever he left him in, they also had to make moves.

That's an offense that needed outside of quarterback, some help at every single position, especially up front. You got, yeah, you got a center. You actually got a tackle tied Nishiki, who I always thought, is that, I don't know how to pronounce his name, who I always thought was pretty good in Washington, a couple of receivers, pretty clear. And the center, they did a nice job in free agency. And, I mean, what are you doing? If you draft a quarterback in the top 10 and then you don't immediately set about trying to put him in a position to improve and succeed your loss. So Buffalo, good job.

Let's move to the AFC North. I'm not going to hit every team. We're just going to jump around a little bit. West, let's go with the Cleveland Browns, a team I know that you are falling in love with every day, a little bit more. Their message, loud and clear, we have caught lightning in a bottle, we are galvanizing our fan base, and it's high time we re-emerge as a glamour franchise and NFL showpiece. They're going to be one of the top eight or nine franchises in the NFL again. This sign would go where the LeBron image was.

It's going to go on the, it's like a mural on the side of a building, works. And it's, I mean, again, is I guess you're referring to the 80s Browns. I was referring more to the 50s. Okay, the 50s. I don't want to see LeBron James, by the way, at Brown's games. I don't want to see, because they're going to be on prime time, like, what, six or seven times. I don't need the cutaways to LeBron and the suite. And I know it's coming.

But LeBron. He's a Browns fan now? Yes, now he's a Browns fan because him and O'Dell are buddies and all that. You already made you, you're a Cowboys fan. Yeah, you know, and we talked about. He's been root for your friends. He left Cleveland twice. He's literally from there.

Stop it. He's literally from there. But why didn't he root for the Browns for the last 10 years? Exactly. He's been wearing a Cowboys hat. He's been going to Big D. He's a Cowboys fan. He was at the Rams Cowboys fan.

He was at the Rams Cowboys game in his own 10. How are we talking about LeBron against him? Why do I have the least amount of problem with him rooting for the Browns on the side? Half this room roots for multiple teams all the time. So it's like you can choose what you want to do. It just, he kind of played up the Cowboys pretty hard over the past 10 years. He played it up. And the same guy with the Yankees and the Lakers and the Cowboys, give me a break.

We all have friends like that. Bit of a front runner. Mark, the Cincinnati Bengals. What does their billboard say? Well, it's sort of, you know, you drive from Cleveland down to Cincinnati. You get a different message. It basically says, for me, because when I think of the Bengals, I think of Wes, he had enough with the Bengals, but you still have a little bit of Reds fandom and you.

Oh, I have a lot of Reds fandom in you. And the Reds are in baseball, and the Bengals are saying, unlike in baseball, the NFL allows 32 teams to compete equally from a financial standpoint. But we, cutting against the grain, are going to operate like a local, moneyless family-run MLB team that you can count out before the season even starts. Wordy billboard. A little wordy. I mean, it's like you're driving along the highway and you get part of the message. There's like multiple billboards in a row. Well, those are effective.

Three billboards in Ebbinger. Those are effective. It's like the defensive coordinator hiring, which became a bit of a social media joke, how long it took to find their guy. It just seems like Cincinnati's playing from behind in general right now. From what I can gather, the Bengals believe that they started out last year three and one,

and every team can use injuries as an excuse. I know that. The Bengals believe, if not for injuries, specifically the Tyler Eiffert injury that really hurt their offense, they would have been a playoff team. Then does Zach Taylor have any power inside that bill? I mean, they did lose Andy Dalton and A.K. Green for... They had a lot of...

I still don't think that... And Tyler Eifert. My problem is the Bengals even before. There was the 2015 season where it looked like it was all going to happen potentially and they were talented. But the Bengals in general, going into last year, I don't care about three and one. Don't try to pitch me this idea that you're this playoff.

team that's going to suddenly show up in the AFC title game. They're stuck with a mediocre quarterback for ages and they're the ones who don't seem to care. Might be the most balanced division too. So that's, those are six tough games in the divisions. And I think it's a moratorium now

but remember 2015 and now too much time has passed. It's just a different situation with a whole different vibe in Cincinnati. It's not a good one. Let's move to the AFC South. Another team that's on the rise and Wes's heart rankings, the Tennessee titoons.

This is the team that inspired this segment. I believe they have sent the clearest and loudest message with their moves. Starting with Adam Humphreys, which was the missing ingredient in offense. Besides the quarterback. Well, Mario dek is much better between the hashes. He's a good passer in the middle of the field. He's not good on the outside and down the field, which is surprising that they've never had a really bona fide slot receiver.

This gives them that missing ingredient offense. Then Roger Saffold, the best. run blocking offensive lineman in Free Agency. That was a priority. Cameron Wake, which is the quintessential win now pass rusher. And Ryan Tannahill, they're saying this roster is good enough to do postseason damage, even if our quarterback goes down. I think they're also, and what I like about, their front office has been one of our favorites

in the past, not so much last year, is you're almost building around the quarterback right now because it's very possible that there is no Marcus Marriota or Ryan Tannahill long term at all. So you're building the rest of your roster. Maybe they're one of the teams. If everyone else gets the quarterback box check, you go get one in the draft next year, and he comes to a playoff-ready roster.

I feel like their billboard is, we still believe in you, Marcus, now show it to us. We're giving you a team. We have a backup because we have to protect ourselves because you get hurt a lot. But you have a team. We've been patient with you. This is it.

Go show us why you're the guy of the future for us. This is the alternate billboard. Take us seriously, period, with an emoji, just pray. I think they improve more than any team in the league over the last week just because they found three quality starters at positions they needed. They were all short, other than Humphreys, they're really just short-term kind of gamuts, one or two years. And that's basically how the NFL should be these days

when you're filling in holes in free agency. I love what they did. Stay in the division with the Jaguars. I will tell you what their billboard is. It says, hey, everybody. 2018 never happened. Jump back in our pool. I only wish the billboard had audio qualities to stay at the way.

Okay. It does. Because it's much better when you throw the little voice. It's Bluetooth accessible. Okay. And when you sync up with the billboard, you get that guy. Okay. We went, we got rid of the quarterback that we whiffed on.

We replaced them with a better version, a better version of a franchise quarterback. And we keep most of the band we stuck together here on defense, we're going to run it back. And they're going to get their mojo back. And the offense is going to be better because we have a better. signal caller and everything is going to be okay, jump back in the pool. I think that's well said. My only concern is that the billboard that tried to sell us all last offseason wound up being every single word was a lie.

And so I don't know if I trust the message. I mean, they didn't lie to us. They were just wrong. Passers by were throwing eggs at that billboard because they knew it was wrong. It was a poorly thought out billboard in 2018, but that's over, Mark. What about the cults? The cults to me, it would be a billboard with less words than my last. last one that just says, don't try to tell me how to live.

All right. Because to me, it's Chris Ballard, who all before free agency, everyone's trying to say, we know what you're going to do because you have all this money. We're going to try to attach Levon Bell to you. We're going to attack, maybe you go after Antonio Brown, maybe you do X, Y, and Z. And Ballard just said over and over, actually, I'm not going to do anything that doesn't fit exactly the way the Indianapolis cults want to operate. I think the cults are one team that thinks very much about the fact that where they are in

the Midwest versus being in L.A. or New York, and they are committed. Ballard came up under Dorsey through the draft, so there's not a total DNA print there in terms of not being active in free agency, but he also spent time before that with the Bears that were not huge free agent-type teams. They were draft and deliver, and I think that he is truly married and believes and was hired to rebuild the cults this way. I think there was an agreement in place that this is how I'm going to do it.

If it's not right, I'll do it my way somewhere else. What's your favorite type of frog? And the frog thing, too, he has. stuck with this message and he has not pulled a hook line and sinker where he tells you one thing at the combine like Dave Gettleman and then goes does a bunch of other stuff he's stuck to it don't tell him how to live it's funny to me how much they've been criticized especially from Colts fans who are like do something Colts when you just saw the fruits of what he did a year ago it's very similar and this drives me crazy every year that Patriots fans do the same thing they get all worked

up and pissy in March about during the years when the Patriots are inactive because they tend to get active like every one or two or three years and it's like having you learned like just just trust them at this point ballards earn some respect and it's also mid-march i want to evaluate his offseason in june because i think some of these guys that are out there that are going to go for less money just in houston domic and sue whoever it may be i think the colts will be active picking up a couple of these guys in their offseason will look a little i think it's fan fomo and honestly the media does nothing to help even some of the smartest in the middle of March feel like

when is my team going to go do something because everyone else is lauded for throwing tons of money. There's so many segments last Wednesday on the first day of free agency, including bias. It's like, how come this team isn't doing anything in free agency? All right, let's move over to the NFC and start the NFC East.

The New York Giants. They seem to be a popular topic of conversation lately. I think the Giants billboard is we are starting a new era. and I know that leads to the Snickers. Well, what about Eli? He's still there. Eli is not part of their future.

Eli is part of the past, almost as much as part of the past, as O'Dell Beckham, because they're going to draft a quarterback next month, and they've gotten rid of the face of the franchise. Well, if Eli's the face, O'Dell Beckham was the most popular player in the franchise. They are deciding to completely change what it is when you think about the Giants. and that is a hard thing to do and it's a hard sell to the fan base and you're seeing that and hearing that

about how Giants fans are reacting because Giants fans weren't ready to turn the page on the O'Dell Becumera but Dave Gettleman and the Maras and apparently Pat Shermer we're all on board with doing that so we are I think that one of the things they're trying to do is we want to get back

to being the Giants and not being so flashy and this is an Odell show where the Giants were a team that puts out a winner consistently and we build a product that lasts. They didn't think O'Dell Beckham would be a part of that, so they made their move. I don't disagree with it,

but I think that's what they're thinking is. We didn't like the direction that this franchise was going in with Beckham as the face of it, and we made a move to start over. Their billboard is only half right, because there are two qualities that go into loud and clear. It must be loud and it must be clear. Their message is just loud.

It's not clear at all. I don't see. Yeah, it's a very muddled message. It's half complete. Like their billboard should still be, someone's still up there pasting the little pieces of poster onto it because to me also,

you cannot tell me that a new era, like when I think of Sean McVeigh attached to Les Sneed and then you watch what they do over a couple months or a year, yes, new era. Other scenarios, new era. Pat Schumer, Dave Gettleman,

do not scream new era to me. And the history, unless you, there are times when you trade your star player away, Herschel Walker, and you become part of history because what you get back in return creates a new era and creates that new roster.

And with Odo Becker... Well, we should wait it out, though. All I will say is that the deal on its face value, Gettleman feels like someone that did not... He can say he was blown away. I have no problem with Giants fans saying you're telling me that Gibreel Peppers and a mid-round first-round pick

are blowing us away, no. He's one of those. I mean, it would fit in the loud but not clear. It's the billboard that's on fire in Missouri in that movie. You know, it's like, Francis McDormann is trying to put it out in the middle of the night. And Gettelman and Schumer think they're part of that new future? They are not.

Well, then, okay. I don't know who's putting the- The quarterback who's not on the team yet, he's the new future. And whoever the young GM and young McVeigh-like head coach they hire next year, that is going to be. The Giants are a work in progress. So this is next year's loud and clear billboard. No, their billboard this year is whatever I said. We're lying to you.

Yeah. We hope we get this right. Next year, it's going to be the same exact billboard. but with different people behind it. All right, NFC North West, the Detroit Lions. Well, I think one billboard, if you are not willing to give them much credit, would be, can you smell the desperation?

Ouch. A more politically correct one might be. Put that on the media guy. Make or break year. Yeah, it doesn't feel like it would sell a lot of tickets. Make or break year for the Matt Patricia. It's like, what would the picture be? It's like Matt Patricia like sniffing his armpits or something.

It's wearing like a chef's hat. and a spatula. Sorry, Wes. I mean, you got the picture. That's what's going on in Detroit. Well, with all the Patriots signings and the big money. Paying way too much for a bunch of guys who, some of them don't even belong in the first wave of free agency.

And I don't know. It just feels like, hey, first year of Matt Patricia did not go well at all. This team has no identity. Nobody outside of Detroit really cares about them one way or another. They're desperate to establish. establish a culture, win some games, and save jobs. I like that. How about the Green Bay Packers, Greg Rosenthal?

It's funny, by the way, this segment's kind of turned from loud and clear to just a billboard. Now we're just billboards. But that's what a billboard is. Okay. All right. Their billboard would be, we heard you. We are your team. I really feel like the Packers listen to their fans.

They've been honking about not spending in free agency for so long. I think the natives were absolutely restless that they won six games with Aaron Rogers in the middle of his prime. And no matter what was going to happen, Goody was coming into this month, it's just going to, usually going to spend crazy money. If he thought, hey, I got to pay Preston Smith $17 million a year. I'm going to spend it, I mean, Zedaria Smith, $17 million a year. I'm going to spend it on Preston Smith. I'm going to take Adrian Amos from the Bears.

I don't know if it's going to work or not, but I just think it really is a case of there's no, There's no owner there, but I think the groundswell, including from President Mark Murphy, who kind of acts as the owner, this is like the people's team. And the people were so sick of the way that they were doing things under McCarthy and Thompson that they had to flip it totally around this office. I mean, it helps that if you're the new GM, you're being compared to someone that essentially like crawled into a sleeping bag head first when free agency started, slept for two weeks, and then came out well-rested.

That's what you're being compared against. If you're making any move, you seem active. He never in luck to well arrested, but yeah. No, that's true. He never did. I mean, I just would say that listening to fans is never, is not a good idea for a front office to do either. That's a little bit of my concern. It's just this, there's this excitement.

Hey, we spent in free agency now. Okay, that to me doesn't say much good or bad. I want to see what Matt LaFlor does. I want to see if Mike Patton can integrate all these guys. I don't know if this team solved them. They did a better job. I think this year, investing in younger players, guys that they could build a core around last year. older players like Jimmy Graham

who they kind of tried to catch lightning in a bottle last year and it blew up in their face. The NFC South, all right? There we go. Wes, give us something for the Charlotte-based franchise. Carolina Panthers, we grew two old, feeble, and decrepit. That is what their billboard has said. With the season ticket number underneath. Like Obama had hope, but this sounds like it's going to generate more.

It's like, yeah. And then just a bunch of pictures of some of the great Panthers that they let go, like Thomas Davis and... Since the end of the season. Brian Cleo. I mean, that seems mean to those guys. They have cut ties

with 10 players over age 30. Had to do it. Yes. Because as much as Cam Newton's shoulder injury undermined that season and sunk, and I believe they were 8 and 3 when he really started to show signs of wear and tear. You can't have an aging roster.

It just doesn't work in this league. The defense in particular just fell apart. I know Cam Newton's arm got a lot of the attention as it should have. but the defense did not play well. Wouldn't you want to message that? Like, we're getting younger. We're getting younger and hotter.

So you're getting people, oh, I'm signing up for this. Youngery? Spin it. I get back. No, that's, was that Rahim Morris? That was Rahim Morris, but keep it in the NFC South and hijack Youngery. No. Okay.

It didn't work the first time. Okay. Finally, the NFC West, the Arizona Cardinals West. What's on that billboard? Let me check what's on the billboard. We are tired of dealing with a tremendous talent. deficit they were left to love these billboards i feel like that sometimes they're more like loud and clear messages they're not as much of a billboard this was the message no that's okay

they're only they're saying look i was the gm last year kimebom is saying i'm the gm this year i didn't i didn't leave myself enough players so they have signed 12 veterans starting with their waiver claim of dj swearing at the end of the year 12 veterans that are starters or borderline starters it's a lot in one off season but I think that's what they have to do of all teams good stuff loud and clear

slash billboard I liked it good seg I think it's got legs Wes I think we'll see it again we might have to touch a few things up I did like that sometimes

loud and clear like Greg was saying and the billboard sometimes they were in odds but it made it funnier when a loud and clear message was on the billboard no yeah I didn't hear anything about a billboard

until we started taping this podcast what's more loud and clear than a billboard I like it I like, next time it's Skywriter. Billboard's clear to me. All right, there we go. Before we go, hey, Ricky, can you get Kent Brown on the phone,

our Philin producer for our shows last week? You know, and I'm going to wait until he's on the phone to explain why it felt it was important to circle back with Kent. Who did a nice job for us last week, but something was brought to my attention that I feel like, it would be wrong if we didn't address it on the show. Put it that way. Hey, what's up?

Kent, what's up? It's Dan from the podcast studio. Hey, how are you? I'm doing well. Just your tone of voice quickly changed from excitement to, uh-oh, what is this? I just wanted to touch base with you. Kent, about something you said on the Friday show. Okay.

Remember when you jumped in with that tidbit? The Toto tidbit. The factoid. Which one? The Factori, the Nug that you jumped in with, and we kind of had a vote. It sounded like there were a hundred of them. We had a vote. The Toto one, yeah.

The Toto one. What was it? For new listeners? Yeah, for new listeners, you had said that... John William's son is the lead singer for Toto. Right. Which was fine, and that's not necessarily incorrect. But what you failed to tell the audience and us was that you have to put some respect on Bobby.

Kimball's name, the founding member and lead singer of Toto 1976 to 84. All the hits, you know? Rosanna. Right. Africa. That is Bobby Kimball.

Put some respect on that man's name. And he rejoined the band in 98. He left the band in 2008. Joseph Williams, this guy's Fly by Night. Johnny come lately. Fronted as the lead vocalist from 86 to 88 when they were

done. Yeah, please. And he is now, he tours with them. And now that, you know, they're a 70-something band. I mean, 70 is, and that's how old they are. Kent, what you did was you misled the audience. And I just want you to know that when you do come with the factoid, we need accurate figures, numbers, stats, information. Very true.

But that's technically like saying, like, Derek Carr's a Pro Bowl quarterback. He's made a Pro Bowl, but he needed people to drop out order to. to be a pro bowl. Wait, what? That's a good analogy. It's like saying Adam Lambert is the lead singer of Queen. It's like you can't just say that

and just leave it at that. Yeah, but he wasn't the lead singer for two years. It was the Andy Dalton as a pro bowler of fact toys. Yeah, exactly right. Look his name up. The man had a name and it was Bobby Kimball. Okay, Gary. Dan, your issue is not...

I'll never forget it. He is not incorrect to say that this John William's son did this for a certain period of time, but the main guy was left out of the fact. back to us. Politicians do this all the time. They withhold information. It's a way of not lying, but it's not really telling the truth. Thanks for

explaining that to us. Joseph Williams is the current singer with the band, but I just wanted to be known that the man that sung their greatest hits, Bobby Kimball, and Kent, you did a great job otherwise, but I couldn't let that go. Fair enough. I live in the current time, so I'm going to roll with the

current singer. He's annoyed. Hang up the phone. He's annoyed. This guy. He's done. He's gone. Brown's done. He's not. It's sad because you know. So you guys are worried about why, you know, we're waiting to do this call.

Is it going to pay off? Listen, Kent needed to know that. His last few words were humming a, humana, humana. It's kind of sad because I can just imagine Kent having gotten through four shows with creeps like us thinking, gosh, that actually went really well. I thought they would be jerks to me. It was perfect. He's living high off the hog the last two days.

He gets this phone call out of nowhere. Life comes out you fast, man. All right. Welcome back, Ricky. I'm sure you took a little pleasure in that as well. Super happy to be back. We will be back on Monday with our special show from the owner's meetings in Phoenix.

So check that out. We're going to have hopefully, I mean, we're getting a lot of notes right now. Let's just be totally honest. But I'm hoping we get, you know, multiple, at least two coaches that will talk to us, even if it's like a strength coach ultimately we'll take anybody we can get

and we will interview those people and that content will be turned into fodder for Monday show and Wednesday show as well. Maybe. That works. And we got a hot guest on the broadcast tonight too. That's right.

The old Zusser is dropping in. I'm going to Emma VP Manor in fact for the taping. That'll be out tomorrow. That will be fun. Ooh, nice turnaround. Okay, good. So check that out.

And that's it. That's today's show. If you have any other rap recordings, they have to come to our show. Of course. I'll play on if you really want that. All right. Dan Hans is signing off for Clyde Star,

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