NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Love is Blind: Pairing up Free Agents with New Teams

Episode Date: March 10, 2020

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal and Chris Wesseling recap all of the latest news in the NFL including the Bills signing Josh Norman (12:02), Trumaine Johnson being cut by the Jets (14:30) and the Saints using a first-round tender on Taysom Hill (17:15). The heroes pair free agents with new teams in a Netflix "Love is Blind" spin off scenario (35:49)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosethul. What is Up Boys? Hey, Dan. No longer true. What's that? I got recognized, what was it, Sunday? Yesterday? Yeah.

At a bar in the United States. Hermosa Beach, California. It happens occasionally. Young gentlemen, Vikings fan walked up. You know, we were listening to a jazz band, and he said, said, hey, great to see you. You wished my Vikings good luck the other day. Good to see you.

And he was very nice. It was a nice exchange, but it was, it may have been the first time in like five years I've been recognized in this country. What I like to do is... You had Keisha with you. Yes. I set aside some of the personal budget to once a month or so went out with friends or out, especially with the significant other, like hire someone for, it only, it's like a

$20, $30 charge to have them come up to where I am and just infusively gush over the podcasting work that not only we do but that I do. You specifically. Right, but then they, and then they're a little, they act to act nervous

and then they shuffle off and you just sort of sit there and act like this happens all the time in America. Again. All right. Maybe don't interrupt me while I'm eating.

Hey, not what I'm with my family. Right, man. Not what I'm with my family. Right. If you see me out and I'm not with the wife and kids. Now what advantage does this give to you? It gives an incredible advantage.

If you're just out with, like your family's in from out town and like, you know, a random, it's random nine and a half or ten walks, just, like, I just, like, don't want to interrupt and then the conversation happens and then you just sit there and act like this happens all the time. And then the family is stunned. It's good pop. Now you're held in high esteem. Yeah. I mean, it must be manufactured because it's not happening organically. Sometimes it's good to have self pop. Feels good. Create it. Generate it. Greg, you're like, oh, these things don't matter to me. No, I'm held in such high esteem by

everyone I know that, like, it can't go anywhere there. No doubt. No doubt. out you what would matter um i have a few corona takes all right that's great i have it on a card wes you can see it right at the top you do have some takes but it says on the top corona takes underlined so what's the deal with this is this the thing now is this is this is this a like a like a real thing like is this it is anybody worried about this i'm worried about whatever's coming in the next three minutes much more i mean this has been a topic uh for months right well we should like this idea that we should dance around it, it's a thing that's all around. For you, the tipping point has occurred.

So my first bullet was, what's the deal? So you're saying, when you say, is this it? You're saying, is this like the start of everything unraveling in the human race? The first case of community travel, trans, whatever the heck the doctor word is for it, happened today in L.A., which there's no connection to them traveling to Italy or all of that. So basically, there's no connection, which is, that's the first case in L.A. today. So that's a little scary. That's scary.

Bullet 2. This seems like a good opportunity to just end handshakes. For good. Yeah. In history, sometimes things are... Things get to be taboo. One thing happens,

like the first person that said, bless you, was tied to something and then for the rest of the time, everybody said, bless you. How about just fist pounds from now on? How about more working from home? Fist pound any better than a hand...

Yeah, you're still touching hands. Well, but a lot less stuff is happening on the back of the knuckles than... It's a little bit more intimate, you know, to me than it gets credit for. Not every culture shakes hands. Okay. Well, we could do the bowing, too.

I like bowing. That's cool. There you go. Curtsy. The owner's meetings are coming up. How about we all get there on private jets? The owners are going on private jets. How about all of us essential NFL personnel

and we are essential? You're working from home thing? Hasn't that already started before Corona? Yes, but let's really ramp up the idea of working from home in this country and while we're here, four-day work week. I agree. I'm so on board with this. Are you running for office? And one thing, everyone should know the listeners that are nervous is this going to leave to a stoppage of our podcast?

No. In fact, the throwback podcast in the garage, that thing is safe. Very few people go in the garage. So we would continue to operate from somewhere, even if we weren't in this building. That is good. All these league officials, I think you're coming up with contingency plans, let's say. Things get affected next week. People can't travel during free agency frenzy.

You've got to figure out how we're doing the program. We have a plan. We're fine. We already have it. And Mark. Although the owners meetings, it's so far away, three weeks still. That far away. In the corona time, it is.

It could change. Things could change. For now, the NFL says the owners meetings of which we are planning to attend and interview some coaches and general managers is on. and so are our flights. And Mark, you made a good point before the show, final corona take, the new hero move out there, I think, share that with the audience.

Well, no, and you start to see this with embattled politicians that maybe came in hot early with, and messaging around the virus that they weren't taking it to seriously. Now you're getting these guys left and right, the sort of the new age or the new term, the new white night move is to self-quarantine. Listen, you know, I really care about the spread of this, so it's like I'm going to self-quarantine.

inside your immense congressional quarters that you live in today. Yeah, your compound with your frilly sheets and your bed and you're probably a motherboard to bring you any sort of food or drink you need, please. I'm just working from home. I'm surprised, Mark, I can't be the only one. I'm sure some of our listeners share this with me and maybe, you know, you guys in this room. As this has been unfolding, I've thought about like, well, it's happening. Like, Mark must be thrilled.

Like, he's been waiting for a global pandemic or something. like this pretty much as long as I've known him. Well, that's true, but all these things are true until it hits close to home. And I'm not allowed to give true details about this. But let's just say that it impacted your life situation. It impacted something to do with my children inside the house. Everyone is safe, but it's like my household goes from being on Monday's a nice, calm, serene working environment to the third Iraq war.

And suddenly I'm flushed into the office at 8.06 a.m. But you feel like a little more alive. I feel like you feel like, you know, you missed, there hasn't been great wars or anything, you haven't had enough struggle. I feel like you've been... Oh, it's like, oh, we're America, we're on this little island. How about to shake things up a little bit? Let's see what happens when it comes home to roost.

What are the odds something like this happens? You don't even get free sandwiches out of it. Well, that's nothing new, but... Anybody want to supplement my corona takes with one more? No? No, I think you hit on some anxiety I've had. I mean, what if this is it? That's on my radar a little bit.

Well, I'd only be annoyed that we went out with a slow, um, growing, versus, you know, on the waters off Miami, a tsunami that could have taken us out. A little more sex appeal. That would have been the way to go in terms of the Wikipedia page. Yeah. That we don't have. All right. Let us now get into today's show.

It is Monday. The free agency legal tampering period, I believe, starts in, what, seven days from today? Is that accurate? Yeah. Yeah. Lean on you for these things? Unless they push it back. And that's in play.

Push it all back. the corona takes. That has nothing to do with coronavirus. Oh, that's the CBA scenario. Yeah. Okay. Unless Corona pushes back things like that. Why don't see how it would have any impact? I don't know. Players traveling to meet with people. I don't know. Maybe most of that's done. How does Tom Brady do his little free agency tour on, you know, shared vans and even

if private jets only one layer of travel? Remember the iconic Peyton Manning free agency tour before he signed with the Broncos? He was crisscrossing the country. Remember when Breshaubreeland signed? a contract and then hurt his heel? I mean, Corona'd be way worse than that. Anyway, I'm not worried that this is going to be it, though. That's not downplaying it, but that seems... Flip this off, though.

Yeah, that is an incredible sound drop for when the country is folding into six parts. That seems like a pretty big step to take from where, you know, there's a lot of information out there that nothing has indicated this is it. Can I? Yes, what? Can I take this? Supplement. You're not saying, look, everybody's going to die. in the next year.

You're saying, is this the first domino to fall? And then years from now, you know, maybe when we're looking back at age 80 and there's not many of us left, we're going to say, hey, that was the first one to fall. And now just humanity went into a ditch when this happened. We're all a little too connected. Late stage capitalism. It's a problem. Capitalism not really matching up with public health needs.

Do those really match? Hang tight, football fans. We will address the sport at some juncture in the show. Coming up on today's show, yes, we have the Corona thing going on, but the other big thing going on is love is blind. It is, what a sensation it is. Yeah, that's a, yeah, it's bigger in India, big in China. What a sensation it is on Netflix.

It's the number one reality show in the game right now. So we figured, hey, what if we take some of the basic premise of that show and try to connect a player, a free agent, a player on the market, with a team sight unseen at least within the studio you'll understand when we get to it and then what else do we have that's it we're going to do some news so why don't we do it let's hit the news starting speaking of pressing issues help it I'm so hungry we need you help we need this come on Greg we are on future. Will you be my dad?

We need your help, Greg? Can I trust you? Hey, Jack. We must listen to Delaware. Do it for us. We need your help, Greg. I'm great. We love Delaware.

We really need to listen to Delaware. It's up to you. Speaking of major pressing issues, Greg, again, Delaware, the tapes, where are they? When can we hear them? It is the Crown Jewel. It is the Great White Whale. The Crown Jewel of our reused bits. I mean, it can't be too pressing.

That audio recordings from four years ago. Your kids were, like, totally different stages of life. Roughly less than a year ago. Yeah. Also, it is, yes, it is what the, it's not recycled if we've never heard it before. We've never heard the Delaware tapes. Where are they? We are heading into the really quiet period of the calendar in the NFL. This feels like the year. This is, this is the time. Greg's like, I don't care where Amelia Earhart landed. Old news. It's like some, you know, when we have no fun. My daughter is doing a big project on Amelia.

Well, no, the final step is you delivering the tapes. The case is not, you know, soft or closed because you've not delivered any product. I mean, do I, you guys know me fairly? Do I strike you as someone who has kept or has any material from, like, any earlier portions of my life? You always make fun of me for that. Are there earlier portions? Yeah, well, that's more our take. It's all been deleted.

You were uploaded as an organism at age 32. Uploaded. All right, let's get to it. let's talk some cornerbacks some players can be signed already because they are already free agents an example of that is Josh Norman the cornerback who signed that huge deal

with the Redskins in 2016 well now he has reunited with Sean McDermott of the Buffalo Bills it is a one year $6 million deal for the cornerback he was released last month Greg he is a guy that struggled mightily last year

before being benched down the stretch but now he's not being paid like one of the highest paid cornerbacks in the league so maybe a situation where you're not asking as much of him you're not paying him as much Josh Norman can help or maybe he just can't play anymore I was surprised that he got as much as he did and I think it's a reminder

that bills are among the teams I expect to spend the most this year so they got that cap space they just figure may as well spend it I was surprised, too, because that was the worst season of his career. And you never know once you're past the age 30 mark, if that's the beginning of the end or if you can bounce back maybe at age 31, age 32. But he's also a bigger corner who you don't picture moving to the slot. Like, you know, you send a lot of guys out to pasture by putting them in the slot for a couple years.

Maybe safety? Like, they must have a vision of him. I can't imagine it's in every snap player. It's a lot of money. I thought maybe it's one of those deals where you find out it's a bunch of fake money. he has to get all that. But now it is a $6 million. Well, I mean, if you want to spin what could be in terms of the positives, he's going from what was one of the more chaotic organizations in the league with the Redskins

to a coach in Shaw McDermott who knew him in Carolina very well, knows him here. McDermott consistently gets the most out of his defensive backs, and you're going into a ready-made defense. I don't know. I mean, you're not, he only played 60% of the snaps last year. He's a part-time player. I agree with you, Greg. the money seemed more than I would have thought he would have gotten. Good secondary, though. I mean, that's probably the backbone of that team.

Levi-Wiles, Micahe, Jordan Poyer, and Tradavius White, who might get a big time. I think they're looking to re-sign, like, yeah, they don't redo a deal with White, too. In other cornerback news, this is a little cautionary tale as teams look to spend tons of money in free agency next week. Tremaine Johnson has been informed by the Jets that they will be parting ways with the cornerback who, it was just 2018 that he signed a five-year, $72.5 million contract to be ostensibly the Jets' number one cornerback. And he never was anything close to that. He struggled on the field as a player. He struggled with injuries from everything you heard. His attitude wasn't great. It was basically one of those worst-case scenarios where nothing is

clicking. And despite the fact that the Jets are tied to him and a really depends how the CBA plays out, but they are going to eat a ton of dead money, 12 million, in fact. So they could have kept them on the roster because the point of the matter is that they were going to be stuck with them anyway. But they think so little of him as a player and as a teammate, I suppose, that they said goodbye, take a walk. We are taking the L on this one. So Tremaine Johnson hits the market at a highly depressed value. 34 million he got from the Jets to play 17 games. And Dan, you know this as well as anyone.

When he was benched last year, it wasn't like the Jets had great cornerbacks coming out of their ears. They were forced to play journeymen and late round rookies. And those guys played much better than Tremaine Johnson. He just landed in the doghouse, and it didn't seem like the coaching staff had confidence in it. And the story around heading into last year is, yes, he was a total disaster in year one with the Jets.

He had the injury issues. He didn't play well. But when Greg Williams came into town, it was Greg Williams with the Rams back in the day where Tremaine Johnson kind of established himself as a quality cornerback but almost immediately he was injured in the doghouse under Greg Williams as well

so I imagine he will you know resurface with another team he's I think he's back to the Rams he's I believe he's under 30 or right around 30 years old but this guy is he I don't think he even gets Josh Norman money does he? No I don't think so I want to see what Joe Douglas I feel like we have about 2% of the Joe Douglas plan unveiled at this point. I mean, I just, I love that they cut them versus, you know, over the weekend it was like,

I might keep them because of the cap pit and stuff. Move on and just start building the team that Joe Douglas wants to build. You still save a little money. He did, you know, it was kind of a disastrous move for the Jets. And they've had some pretty bad free agent signings between Bell. C.J. Mosley, you can't fault them for too much. That's injury related. Hopefully he bounces back in Tremay Johnson.

But he did make someone a good. bargain. He won me three sandwiches, I just found out. What was it? It was him getting the most guaranteed money of any defensive player. Oh, good for you. I had some little memory. Nice little moment for you there. In other news, according to Adam Schaefter of ESPN,

the Saints are planning to place a first round tender on Taysam Hill. They're restricted free agent quarterback. And that means the Saints, they have a chance to match any offer sheet. He signs with another team or they will get a first round pick

back. Saints plan to resign him soon, but this gives them a little bit of coverage in the event that a team decides Taysam Hill is the guy. Well, nobody should be surprised by this. We've got the head coach seriously comparing

him to Steve Young. And if that's your comparison... I still was a little surprised, but he's proven my conspiracy theories wrong that I thought they wanted to have him sign elsewhere potentially. He's going to be their backup, and that's a fair price for a backup. And to me, putting the first round tender versus the second is, you know, mostly saying

to Taysam Hill, here's a little proof of all the nice things we're saying to you. We don't need to give you this extra million dollars. Really, we could keep you either way. But we really do value and maybe see you as a part of our future. Ideally, wouldn't you, Cabrises miss six starts over the last two years? They've already talked about giving Taysam Hill a bigger share of snaps and part of the offense. If the Saints ever went south, or even if they didn't, and Breeze needed a rest week or two. I would want to see a few starts from Tayson Hill if I'm the Saints to game plan for what you do next offseason with this player. He's become one of those guys who's sort of a lightning rod. Everybody's got an opinion on him,

and most people, I don't know how they reach this point that are really negative on him. I have no idea what it is about Taysom Hill. They've decided he can't play football. But Nick Underhill, who's a beat writer for the Saints, says, as much as the Saints have praised him publicly, they think more highly of him privately and speak more highly of him privately than they even do in public. I will speak to the other side of that. I don't hate Taysom Hill,

but I think people that, when you see him get a first round tender, for instance, today, and he's going to make a pretty good penny, it sounds like, at the end of the day, for a guy that's what, throwing 18 passes, he's a quarterback. He plays so many other positions. I understand that, but I think that is more,

if you want to even call criticism, that he's just extremely untested at a professional level. level as a quarterback, and some people think other people are getting carried away based on a very small thing. I think it would be, this is a big step, though, that he even goes into the year as a true backup in getting paid the money that he is, which I think he will be. Teddy Bridgewater.

But I think people have misread that all along. Sean Payton has valued him for two things. One, his versatility and two, so he won't be left holding the bag when Drew Brees loses it or walks away. And I think he places a high value on that. in other news the rams have a new logo maybe the rams of course are moving into their new stadium and to go along with that they are updating their uniforms they've made minor adjustments over the years since their move to los angeles in the color scheme but an image leaked

yesterday over the weekend charles robinson of yahoo sports sports said that it is Indeed, the real logo, and it's one of those things where the L.A. is prominent in the logo. And then there's a Rams horn, but gone is the profile of the RAM. What do you guys think about this potential, very possible, perhaps definite new Los Angeles Rams logo? Well, I mean, it took over Sunday's Twitter conversation because it's, and it's probably- I was not involved with that. I stayed out of these Sunday NFL- Twitter. I was reading it.

And, like, I think it's probably, you know, a bit of a nightmare for any team to find something floated and then you want to hope it's on the radar for sure. It's on Mark's radar. No, no, I, here's the thing. I don't think I feel as strong as other people do. But here's the argument against it. If you look at it, you have to go look at it while you're listening to this, it's a confusing logo in the sense that it looks like with the horn circling the A, that it's LAC, which

stands for chargers. The horn itself looks a little. little bit like thunderbolts. And then on top of it, to me, it just, oh, there's someone else pointed out that the way that the horn goes over the L and the A, that it is reminiscent of the St. Louis Arch. So there's a lot of, like,

from an image side. It's a nod to their past. And I don't hate that, but their real past is L.A., not St. Louis. I just don't understand it. What is a goadhorn about that? Yeah, they're a team president. Well, I think that people are saying it is not jumping out as anything. Just before we started taping,

like sent out the GIF, you know, the Will Ferrell anchorman boy that escalated quickly. So I don't know if that is confirming or denying Kevin Demoff, who's their team president, put it on Twitter. But I don't know if that's saying it is or isn't the logo, we don't know for sure. But I immediately just thought of the Chargers logo experience from a year

ago, I believe it was, where they might be a couple years ago. Where supposedly their new logo leaked, it got so much negative reaction on social media, never saw that logo. So I don't know. That's the, that's that's what I thought about this, was this is getting a lot of reaction. Will we see this logo or not?

Because the Rams have underrated uniforms. It's tricky when you have a good uniform. I know this isn't the uniform. You're underrated now. Right. I know this is the logo, not the uniform, but it's all connected. I think they have a great logo uniform combo.

Overall, one of the better ones. So it's tough to, when you're changing from something that's really good. I'd argue you don't mess with it, but we talked about uniforms in the past, couple weeks where this whole, you know, with the uniform front, if you get this five-year deal where you have to keep what may be something that the public doesn't like, change all that, sweep it away. And I think if they float, if the logo got floated and the public response is not positive, well, you should allow the Rams to go redo the logo. I mean, give me a break on,

you know, having them be married to this scenario. Yeah, test group of one. And I love it, by the way, because I have been told that I will love it. And I love it. I said, I just, Dr. Ellis is now a legit Rams fan and she was not, um, feeling it. Mm. Well, that's the young demographic too.

You want to, that's where you really want to get your claws into the. Yeah. Are we not part of that? 10 and under. Mark, M.O? We are well, well out. You don't be lucky if we're alive and, you know, a year. Let's face it.

Fair point. Um, and if you've sensed an urgency to Mark's, uh, monologue there, he's got that Brown's uniform unveiling on his mind. And he's very nervous about it. I'm not. I have been, I receive, a little birdie has spoken to me and told me that I should be encouraged by what is. You think this person would like being described as a little birdie?

Well, it's just a, like you call a private eye, an eye. Just like a little, you know, catchphrase. I was speaking to an eye. The Giants, according to her report, are not close to an extension with Leonard Williams. this could be a little egg on the face for the because as you may recall they gave up two draft picks to the J-Men

last year to acquire the defensive lineman and the idea was that they would then sign him to a deal and he could be an anchor in the middle of their defensive line well as things stand rap sheet reports that the Giants are not close so that is a little bit of pressure and if you're Dave Gettle

you want to get this deal done because the Giants were not a competitive team last year. They weren't in a win now mode last season when they got Leonard Williams. So they didn't really acquire them just for nine games or whatever last year. It was supposed to be a long-term move unless they didn't like what they saw. And I've heard a lot of Giants Finns. Oh, well, we get a, you know, we get a. Listen to your dismissive Giants fans. Compensatory.

It happened. There was two Super Bowl games. You've won so many others, Greg. I've heard a lot of Gettlement. It's like, okay, you could get the compensatory pick back. First of all, that's not for another year. It's 30 picks later. Second, you might not get it back.

I feel like this misinformation with compensatory picks happens every year. The Giants would only get it if they see more quality free agents leave the building than they get. And that is not going to happen for them this year. They are going to be signing free agents because they need it. They do not have quality free agents other than Leonard Williams really expected to leave. Maybe Marcus Golden. But I don't think they're going to end up on the positive side. of the ledger and get a compensatory pick is what my point is.

There's also a conspiracy theory out there that the Giants could have a wink-wink-nudge-nudge deal with Leonard Williams, let him hit the market and then sign him after he hit the market so they would only have to give up a fifth round pick instead of a fourth-round pick to the Jets, which seems like a lot of trouble to go through just to save yourself a late-round one round. And a little bit of an unnecessary risk because who's to say some team that has fallen in love with Leonard Williams' tape doesn't march in with a way better offer? Doesn't pass the smell test out. Kimberly Jones remembered that at the combine,

Dave Gettleman, you know, during one of his highfaluting press conference, told everyone he would get killed. I'll get killed, he said, if the Giants don't resign. Now, what did Dave Gettelman do to you? What did you call it a highfalutin press conference? What is happening right here?

Of all the people that say highfalutin about, Gettelman seems like a regular job. I feel like two years in a row, like Gettelman's Combine Press conferences have just been a little bit extra. I was embedded. I don't know if you guys. Oh, that's right.

You were. So I shouldn't even comment on a school. With the Giants, it was entertaining. It was, uh, you were embedded. Spirited. Yes, it's spirited. Is there a fallout? I wouldn't have called it highfalutin.

Is there a falloutin without high? Right. Is there a lowfalutin? Just a regular oldfalutin. We don't find out about those events. That guy. Yeah, that was, it was a fluton party. It was pretty good.

And, well, you get, I, I watch the guy very closely for four years. You want to give him 15 million a year? Go ahead. I'm with you on that. Go ahead. I mean, if that's what you want to do with your money, I will not judge you. But that's supposedly what his market is

or he wants the market to be. That seems like a lot of scratch. So there's a scenario where the Giants, now it's my turn to bury the Giants. There's a scenario where the giants hypothetically give Leonard Williams $15 million a year and then give Jadavian Clowney $37 million a year, whatever the horrible market or the perceived market of his is.

And they're just going to load those guys up and weigh down their salary cap with these guys that don't put up any numbers. I feel like most of the Gettleman experience was in Carolina, you know, removing cap, like making cap room, getting rid of veterans when you guys actually asked Gettleman at the combine about Steve Smith that one year. And he acknowledged that maybe Steve Smith wouldn't be around anymore. It was like, and he goes to the Giants and all they've done is move veterans and move big price tag. So I don't feel like he's going to go hog wild as he would say or hog Molly Wild in the in the agency period. He could be tagged.

And I do think he would have that strong of a market. I think he would get plenty. As in a bunch, guys who are young above average starters and I have a pedigree, they get paid a lot of money. I'd love to see the clowny Leonard Williams combined for three and a half stacks next year at $40 million. I mean, it's all in play. Finally, in the news, the NFL.

That's the breaking news flash. What we got, Ricky? This just in, our ATN Instagram page hit 15,000 followers. Hey, oh! So if you're not following and you want to follow, just post some fun behind the scenes content. 15,000, that's like what? 10% of listeners, if that?

Let's get this up, guys, at the ATN podcast. If you don't have an Instagram, you got to look in the mirror. Okay? Make one. Follow. That sound like that was not, that was a demand of the audience. Well, it's come to that. We make very few demands.

demands of our audience. It's come to this. The next step is sending Rick out and conducting some vigilante justice to any listeners who aren't following. No, you're in the pocket of Big Social. A couple, some moves if you want to be that guy, if you want to be the one that has to be an enforcer. You get the baton to the knee.

You do some knee damage. The other one is, and I like this one, break thumbs. But then they can't follow if their thumbs. Not both, not both. Okay. But you also got your pointer finger. That's true, that's true. But if you do those, you have to be much more careful now because video cameras are everywhere.

So, just because, like, I'm in a back alley behind Ralph's banging on someone with a baton, like, they're going to find you. Hoisted on your own partard. So you got to be careful where the hit goes down. This is not breaking news, but I just saw this. The Raider. Oh, but good job. And Ricky, good job by you. This is not breaking news.

Because you, you've done a great job with that. Thank you. Make sure to bring that up. in your employee review. Okay, cool. Thank you. Let them know. The Raiders announced

the release of veteran linebacker to hear Whitehead. The move clears 6.25 million of Whitehead's 7.3 million cap number from the books. He signed a three-year deal in the 2018 free ages period at their six-year run

with the Raiders. He was a starter for Oakland during that entire run. Every game, in fact, over the last two seasons. But the Raiders are looking to improve in their linebacking group. Make some cap space.

They're going to be spenders. And just as a warning, the whole Oakland, LA, Las Vegas thing. Oh. That job by me. Well, no, I wasn't even, you said he was with the Oakland Raider. They was, that was true. It was. Nailed it.

I have been writing Oakland in my copy. So that is something we're all going to have to get rid of. Okay. Just a warning sign. They sign a new version of Teher Whitehead every year. Don't worry. They'll get some journey. linebacker in there. Vantes Berfic, probably not coming back.

And finally, the NFL players union announced Monday that has extended the voting window from Thursday to Saturday at 11.59 p.m. Eastern to make a vote on the new collective bargaining agreement that was drafted by the owners and was sent along to the players. It has to be a majority vote. There are notable players out there that have made it known that they do not like this proposal from the owners. Russell Wilson, Aaron Rogers, Kenny Stills, what's the guy, what's the crazy guy that we played the offensive lineman from Miami? Pouncey. Intragnito?

Pouncey. So many options. None of whom were at. The O-Line coach? None of whom were at the meeting. Oh, that's fair. But there's also been other players on the other side. Ryan Fitzpatrick is one guy.

And there's been several others that have voiced support for the new CBA, which it does, it sounds like one of the big, one of the without us digging in because who wants to do that. But one of the big positives for the players is the minimum salary is going to go up fairly substantially. And that there is speculation that because of that, and most players are closer to that end of the spectrum than the star spectrum. that that will be something that could give you the necessary amount of votes, I guess we'll see.

Right. And that this was an agreement that their executive committee negotiated for three or four months. They obviously approved it. But the whole thing is really messy. The voting is not due until midnight, Saturday, into Sunday. The franchise tag deadline as scheduled is two days before that. But it's under the old CBA. So for now, teams can use two tags.

But if the players approve it and everyone, not everyone, but I think the expectation, the conventional wisdom is that it will pass. You only need over 50%. And I think people believe that it will pass. Then that means two days later, the rules are going to be different. And then there's only one more day until free agency even starts in terms of legal tampering. Meanwhile, you got the union voting their new president and executive committee in the middle of this week while this is all going on. And Russell L. Coon is filing, you know, a legal issue, a complaint with the National Labor Board that his bosses at the labor union are, you know, working in bad faith against him and other people. It's like the whole thing. Let's clean it up here. It's messy. Also, push the, they're going to push, they should push free agency back. That's my point. Also, Corona. In the middle of all this. That too. It is, that's an issue. As you've raised. What is the hurry? Why would we, this is a whatever billion. business, you're going to operate under one rule

on Thursday and operate under different rules on Saturday and then you're going to start the whole league year the next day. That's Fadog. What's the hurry? How many of the players voting have read the entire new proposal from wire to wire? It's hundreds of pages, correct?

I think they're reading the bullet points, which Aaron Rogers sent one to all of his players on the Packers, which kind of was like a... The last bullet I'll never talk to you. you again if you don't agree with me. It was like a one pager basically.

And the guy's like, I don't, you don't talk to me anyway. So how does this change anything for me? For what it's worth. And you could say it's not worth much because he's the outgoing president of the NFLPA and worked on this deal. Eric Winston told Peter King that he thinks it will pass and he thinks it will pass by a lot. I'm taking a pured all break right now. Anybody else want it?

Is it sponsored now? Nope, not sponsored. I mean, your hands are all over the bottle. Refreshing gel. Yeah, but the, see, Wes is a guy. What does it matter if my hands are all over the bottle? How else are you going to get to the PRL? My wife is pregnant.

I've been told it's very important that I stay, my hands stay clean at all times. Now you both touch the bottle. I don't know. And holding it up to the mic just. That's called being a pro. That's called classic podcasting. That's a pro. That's a bro and a bro who's a pro.

All right. Let's move on. Moving on. That's what's happening in the news. All right. Let's get into it. Love is blind. What?

what a program on Netflix It's You hold me close Tell me that you can read my mind How do you get to know How do I feel inside Well the funny thing is Is that this has no connection

To love is blind But doesn't it sound like a one I assume this was the theme song Sure it is Why not Bad assumption All right so For those of it

I'm sure there's a There's a chunky segment of audience that has not seen this Netflix sensation. What kind of music is that? That's, you know, it's what the kids were listening to

like eight years ago. What noises are those? What instrument makes that sound? It's done on a computer, most likely. Anyway, if you haven't seen the show, the premise is fairly simple. They have a group of men and a group of women. They're called pods, Mark.

Mark, I know you caught up, you binged all through the weekend. Pots. Yes, they begin in pods. Right, so they actually get, they go on quote-unquote dates. There's a frosted glass between them in two rooms. They never actually see each other, but they go on multiple dates or they just talk for X amount of time.

They never make it clear how long these, quote-unquote dates are. They're nestling, like, large glasses of, like, wine and stuff. So I think they can go on as long as they wanted to, kind of. So my, my, and it ends, the first portion of the show ends with a proposal. And these people, these maniacs, And there was like six or seven of them, couples, you propose to the person without ever actually seeing them. If you want to, you don't, if you want to.

You don't have to propose. No, but it's like some people were compelled and it was like this highly emotional, you're in a legit bubble. You can't, there's no phones, there's no outside world. And you fall in love with this person because you've dug in all this deep material without seeing each other. Then these proposals were happening, which I agree was, you know, to us watching it. Pretty mad.

And then once they're proposed, there's, You're getting paid for it, though. More frosted glass. Greg, that is the whole thing is not about them getting paid. It's about love, bro. Of course it is. They're going through multiple rounds of auditions, right?

And it's a job. But it's a job that you're getting paid for. There's a long hallway. People, you got to audition to just be on, like, game shows. You're definitely auditioning for that. Shame on you, Greg. A second part of the show, long hallway, two more frosted panes of glass.

It opens up and you see the person who's now your fiancé. And not everyone's as please. as you would think. Some people are a little disappointed but what they see. Is love blind West? Yes or no? Let's start there.

No. Of course not. What kind of... Greg, you wouldn't fall in love with Emeka if she was on the other side of glass and you got to learn her personality. No, got him. Put a minute corner.

You don't love her? As long as he's getting paid, I'm saying no. I'm saying no, because that's creating an artificial situation you never would be in. And yeah, I would say, I would say no one's, that's not happening.

Well, I mean, Some people have fallen in love in the past through writing letters without seeing each other. That's happened hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times. I'm saying certainly that's possible, but if you're like... Podsable. You're putting in a way. There you go. By nature, there's vanity involved when you're going on television.

Attraction, I think it would have to be important. Maybe at this point you're sending some pictures. So how do we turn this into a pod seg? We will take a team without naming the team. We will take a player on the first. free agency market to be without naming the player show why it's a sensible match

then we'll all guess what the pairing is this could be pretty easy I mean it's very possible but who knows maybe maybe love is blind somehow that connects so I'll get us going just to give it a little bit of structure this NFL team

anybody watching the XFL by the way? A little bit here and there no no I have not this team is in the top percentile of teams in in terms of available cap space they have a several needs but nothing higher so both sides are blind both sides are blind

both sides are blind all right you went first uh yeah and uh one of their biggest needs is on the defensive line they need help across the defensive line but at the edge especially i'll tell you how bad it was they're leading their top edge rusher in terms of pressures last season 33 pressures i never even heard of the guy now the scientists probably have mark yeah coin flip at best uh but i apparently don't watch the sport he had nearly their leading pressure guy had nearly 50 less than the sack leader in the NFL we can

agree we can't be looking up these things on our computer no that would not cheating can i think a wild step yeah buffalo bills and yonick and No. And also, I don't know if that's in the spirit of what we're doing here. How am I supposed to know what the spirit is? I don't even know what it is. Anyway, this player, this team produced just 23 sacks last season, last in football. Their two leading sackers had a combined eight and a half sacks. Okay. And so the player that I think would be a good marriage partner. is someone that knows how to get to the quarterback. We saw it.

It's someone that is on the market. And you know what? I wouldn't trust this team's management structure to get it right through the draft because they've had some big swings and misses along the defensive line under this current general manager. So this particular player

seems to like it where he was last season pointed out the fact that listen, I'm down to stay here. I also like that. I don't have to pay income taxes. Okay. We know one of them. When you're ready, I want to blow up the spirit of it.

You have a major sack artist. You have a man that's looking to stay home, but also likes the federal tax structure and a team that has a lot of money to spend and has a major need at the position. Mark? We know it's Shack Barrett because we hit on that A, doesn't, likes the Florida tax scenario,

doesn't like moving his family around the country. So I'm going Shaq Barrett on half of the match. You've got to go to the whole thing if you're going to jump in. Well, I will, but then I believe I want to go jets on the other side. But you said, well, they... You mix it. You missed the tax thing. I think I know.

I think I know. Greg, who this deal. I mean, Miami Dolphins. And Shaquil. Oh, he wants to stay in that tax world. So, okay. Yeah. Gotcha.

The glass slides open. They meet each other in the hallway. I did it off the whole. I combined the top two guys had eight and a half sack. Can't be many teams where no one had any set. Does anybody know who had the most pressures on the dolphins last year? He's a linebacker. Vince Beagle?

Vince Beagle. Nice, Wes. Had 33 pressures last season. Jack Barrett has said. He was one of the guys early on saying, I love this Miami tanking because it's giving me some playing time. and look what he did with it. Shaq said that he loves the bucks. He'd even take maybe a hometown discount

to stay with the team that took a shot on him during his previous year. But he also, like one of the reasons he wants to stay in Tampa is because there's no tax where he plays. The Dolphins 23 sacks. Taco Charlton and Sam Igwovian.

Aguavin. They were the top two guys. Taco Charlton, Charles Harris, Jonathan Ledbetter. Jonathan. Yellow Ledbetter. How many of these names did you make up? That's a rough...

And Avery Moss. And Taco Charlton joined the team like halfway through. And Chris Greer, the GM. He's been there a while, though. Chris Greer, also the leading sacrifice. That threw me off the scent. The whole, you know, their GMs has struggled because I was thinking new regime.

Charles Harrison, 2017, went in the first round. 2013, of course, Dionne Jordan, number three. And they have $94 million to spend in free agency. Got to spend it somewhere. So why not? Get this studly edge rush who's young. I think he's 27. And then, you know, put your draft focus elsewhere because guess what?

They have three first round picks and 14 draft picks overall. Two in the second round as well. Love is blind. That's my take. Barrett's not going anywhere, though. That's the only problem. Well, is he going to get franchised? Is that what we're saying?

Well, Arian, they have been pretty aggressive saying, and to their credit, I think they really are going to choose him over James Winston. and if they don't get a deal done, and I think there would be ground here to get a deal done, then they'll tag him. All right, and by the way, tag him and bag him.

Let everyone get through their setup before you jump in. Mark, you handle that with grace right there perfectly. Okay. Okay. Wes, a little quick on the draw. I mean,

could the segment was hanging in the balance there? He didn't persist, though. He didn't persist. I have watched zero seconds of Love is Blind so I don't know your format. It's not, I struggle actually, Mark, to connect love of the segment but you know what it why not all right who's up next who wants to go i can do one for it so i'm thinking of a team first of all that uh when it comes to free agency

i trust them in free agency because instead of colossally over pain uh desperately this is a team uh with a with a long standing front office that understands when we see a veteran out there that can make our team better we understand how to pick a player that's going to be good in our locker room, number one, fit our culture that's an unchanging culture for years and years, and tweak our offense in the way that we need it to be tweaked. And this team that I'm thinking of is pretty perfect in a lot of ways. And they're original thinkers and they do what they want to do, but they could use a little help through the air. And what they could really use, because I think it's a team that already has an ability to stretch the field a little bit here

and there, but they could use a really solid veteran, trusty wide receiver. And the one that I'm thinking of is one that has shown an ability to, at the flip of a switch, go from System A to System B and make an immediate difference. A player that once Switch teams last season ripped off two big 100-yard games for another team that like this team he would be going to likes to punish you. with an old school style of offense. So this veteran receiver... It's like Jeopardy, just whoever can press the box...

Right, first. I will, if you guys feel good, I'll leave it right there. You want to add it? No, but it's... We can on the back end can do it as well. Sure, I think I've kind of laid it out for you. I see heads nodding. I'm not going to belabor the point.

I'm more confident in the player than the team. Okay. How about you say the one you're more confident in? Emmanuel Sanders? Oh. Is that correct? That is absolutely correct. Well, and the Ravens.

Absolutely correct. I thought it was Amari, though. Yeah, I would have been wrong. Well, no, so, and I understand that Emmanuel Sanders, when you rank these guys, it's not one or two on the list of wide receivers. But it kind of reminds me the way that people looked at Mark Ingram last year, like, oh, he's a 1B back, you know, in New Orleans, and can he really be? He goes there and he fits so well.

And I just think Emmanuel Sanders is someone that would immediately be productive in that offense. I think he'll get a really good contract because I think teams like the Ravens, The Patriots are reportedly pretty interested in Sanders. They tried to trade for him last year, didn't get him. Do the Niners not have the cap space? No, I think the Niners will be a perfect fit. Actually, one of the kind of underrated killer things for them was his injury, which kind of took him out of the Super Bowl, essentially.

I think he needs to go to a win now team, too. I wouldn't want him to go to a rebuilding team. He's about 32. Right, just, you know, get it done. That would be when the glass, frosted glass slides open, I think both sides will be very happy with what they said. Good couple. Good couple. They would start making out. They would go to first base right there. They'd both be delighted with what they saw. A little tonsalaki, as they call it, Erica, in 1986.

Yeah. Gross. Tonsalaki. All right. Eric's like, why did you come to me with this thought, Dan? All the thoughts. All right, I'll jump in. All right. I'm going to try to keep it simple. more vague.

All right, this team I think it could be looking for a new start at this position, for a new start. Open hearts, open to new possibilities of love. I think they want to get the fan base excited.

Invigorate this fan base. Get some people. Excited about the franchise. And maybe play, you know, by signing this player, You know, play to what's an improving other side of the ball. Play to an improving defense. You know, put this player in place.

Play to an improving defense. And they could do it with a guy that's one of the better deep ball throwers in the league a year ago who has the same career winning percentage. Don't be typing out too much there, Mark. I'm typing your notes. So same career winning percentage. So is this. I want the music. I'm trying to remember what are you saying.

Yeah, as Eli Manning. The two of them, you know, a future Hall of Fame are Eli Manning. And it's a little older than you think. He's been around, he's been around a little longer and little older than you think. So he's seen some things. He's seen some things, is right. Love that music coming in. I can't believe this isn't from the show.

They should use it. Could have been. They could have been taken it from the same library. They cut some corners on that show. As you know, Rick. They kind of jeeped out on that show. The editing is insane. The reunion didn't even have a live audience.

No. Like The Bachelor, which live tonight, the finale. See, that I'm out on. Yeah, me too. But even the wedding days. What a mess. Oh, my God. That went on forever.

The weddings. Oh, my God. You got a guess? I got a guess. I mean, I don't know the team. I have a player guest. You want to combine? Sure.

I didn't want to combine. Okay, Ryan Tannahill. That was my guess. That's right. And I have the Los Angeles Chargers now. So I guess I kept it too vague. That was going to be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Here's a matchup no one's been talking about.

They need a new start. Maybe he's not going to get the fan base excited. Yeah, that one, that was a little bit. In hindsight. But play to that Bolzaans. Play to that improving defense. Just have a quarterback that's not going to blow it for you, basically. I think, I mean, the Bolzazan is more a creation of this room.

He was their fifth in DVOA last year. Yeah, but maybe. Turning those turnovers. Okay. I'm utterly unconvinced of Ryan Tannahill goes to another team that we're going to get last year's version of Ryan Tannahill. That is a total TBD to me. I just feel like the whole Tannahill could be a free agent thing.

He's getting overlooked because of these old guys. He'd be an interesting guy to change teams if he did. All right, Wes. This team has arguably the slowest number one wide receiver in the league. They have no tight end with more than 300 yards. Last season, they drafted three rookies, but didn't play them much at wide receiver. They have a young quarterback with intriguing touch on downfield throws, and they play four wide receiver sets, but only have two established wide receivers.

Okay. This player is perhaps the best deep threat on the market. He has a little bit of a question mark. off the field, and he does not seem likely to sign with his former team. I know the player. The player is overt. Yeah, it's Arizona Cardinals and Robbie Anderson. That's correct.

Look at that, love. It's not blind. See each other. You could see that. They could use a deep threat. I thought about them in Amari. I feel like the Cardinals are an underrated team this offseason in terms of just could go. bananas and spend a lot of money.

Kime's been there a while and has plenty of cap space and they kind of need to do that year two get their own guys in. I can see Robbie Anderson and drafted a wide receiver at number one and suddenly you've got all you need there and you're good.

That makes a lot of sense. It's Robbie Anderson, because you know we've seen the show, there are a couple wild carts in some of those couples. Robbie Anderson feels in terms of a love match if you really want to volatile. As a lifelong mate, Robbie Anderson, I'm saying that...

He's like to be a guy that was like, your wig's been crooked. Your wig is calling. Carlton, yeah. That's not going. Your wig is slipping. Your wig's slipping. It's been slipping the whole show. I mean, I wrote about guys who could be overpaid.

I mean, if Robbie Anderson feels near the top of the list, supposedly he's going to make $13 to $15 million a year, at least that's what he's hoping. We'll make more than Tyrell Williams. He's got some pretty big red flags. I think you are a little bit overly down in Robbie Anderson. I think he's a really good player, but he's literally been arrested twice,

had trouble with two different coaching staffs, and he hasn't been that productive. Which staffs? He has had no issues with the gay staff. Okay. But he is absolutely, was a red flag guy with off-the-field issues. I think he gets kind of a little bit lumped in

with all the dysfunction around the Jets, more than his actual play. And my little bit of a fear and trepidation I have is this idea that the Jets, again, with all this cap space and this need to completely build out the wide receiver group, he's a perfect guy to have in the building if you don't think he's a total knucklehead. If you think he's maturing, I would pay him and then go draft a real number one wide receiver. And then he got Crowder and maybe Chris Herndon comes back and he got a nice little nucleus there.

I think the jets and the reports are actually starting to bubble up a little bit the last couple days that they actually aren't out on Robbie. Maybe that's real. Maybe that's not. It makes all this sense of the world to me to keep Anderson in that building because I actually do think that the chemistry with him and Darnold's pretty good. Once he got past all the BS around

Donald last year between the past protection, woes and the sickness, I'd be bummed. He could be a 1,200 yard, 8 to 10 touchdown guy in the right scenario. I'm with you that I hate because we follow these teams that can't get any traction. Like to watch some of the talent that leaves

the roster is frustrating, but they know 20 times more about Robbie Anderson and the Robbie Anderson experience than any of us. So if they let him walk, He's just, it's informative to me to something. He's just, okay, forget about even the off-field stuff. He's just the type of guy who often turns into a bad free agent contract, which is a good, not great player getting great receiver money

because there's no other options on the free agency market that are deep guys. And then you have all these rookies coming in with this draft class. That'll be coming at a much more affordable rate. He has just, because he was in one I had down the road, but he had 37. catches on balls thrown 20 or more yards downfield since 2016. That's 11th best in football. So you put him with a better situation, a functional officer.

I like him in Arizona. I would like that fit. And he averages 15 yards of catch. You know, that just made me think with this new CBA and the marijuana law changes. What does that do for a guy like Martavis Bryant? Wouldn't he just be right back in the league? They said that it won't like, count towards old

he's going to have to go through the normal process to get back in the league under the old rules which is surprising to me yeah I'm with you Wes I mean what's

good for the goose is good for the gander come on it's like a reverse grandfathered clause let's break the I never really have known what does that mean

the goose and the gander well isn't a gander a flock of geese oh okay I could be dead wrong what's good for one that makes sense that makes sense

what about one in hands better than two in the bush that one misdifies me I've thought about that often I don't know That one's self-explanatory right That's like But what's in the bush

Oh you're kind of guessing What's your phone? What's in your hand by the way? A bird You've captured a bird And that's better than having You know There's more of the bill

You got one bird Is that better than the possibility Of having two? The bird in hand Is better than two in the bush? I thought it's just one in hand That there's bird in the hand Is better than two in the bush

Don't overlook what you've heard of the saying What is this saying? You've never even heard of the saying Oh you just like miss Totso hockey It's um But you got birds in the... Where?

A bird in hand is better than two in the bush. That's a famous... Which means it's better to have something that's a short thing, even if it's not as bountiful or as great as what you might get. She's trying to say this saying should be canceled. But... Have you ever trying to catch a bird in the bush? No one was thinking about that.

No, I just think it doesn't hold up. Like, it's like, oh, yeah, I got two in the bush. Like, it just doesn't make sense to me. Are you going Orson Wells right now? What's going to be? Yeah, I mean, it's just like, I hear you four old men talking about it. Yeah, you got two in the bush. Well, we're not saying that the statement is awesome.

You took it there. You took it. Greg, you were looking back, smirking him a whole time. I didn't know what you were, no, that is not why. See, you're, I looked at, you seemed completely dumbfounded and I wanted to hear from you. And I guess I, I guess. Also, because a bird is what people call women, too. In 1968, London.

And by the way, since you brought it up. Two birds in the bush. Can I just say that you are two years away from 30 and I'm in my 30? So maybe you shouldn't be calling everyone at all. Yeah, but you'll be 40 before I'm 30. Too shay. So. Just saying.

Cool. This whole bit about you being like young is dying. Yeah, we are. We are. We are. You're not supposed to tell the whole world my age. It's better than two in the bush. All right.

I think it's a good place to stop. Can I have the music again just to say goodbye? That was the other thing, the music budget of that show. They never used a real song the whole time. Everything was from a rights library. Like this. Well, this is one. It's going to, after, it's been such a hit.

They're going to go all out for season two. That noise right there. What instrument is it? That's kind of like a dance house type sound that was very popular on the radio about five, ten years ago. It's hideous. It's hideous. All right. We'll be back on Wednesday with another show.

And yes, free agency is right around the corner. And we have a big week. Can you lower that just the touch? Or just stop it. It's fine. We have a big free agency week coming up. Oh, forget it. Tell them.

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