NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Making sense of the Las Vegas Raiders

Episode Date: March 27, 2017

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal & Colleen Wolfe (back from the grave) – break down the aftermath of the NFL owners approving the Raiders’ to move to Las Vegas, and what it means for the franchise going forward. Plus, where will Adrian Peterson be playing in 2017, and should the Bills move on from Doug Whaley? The heroes also take a little dive into the ATN mailbag to answer the most pressing fan questions.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the 6th, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.

It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sunday. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Around the NFL podcast. Hey, Dan. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis,

and I am joined by a room filled with Heroes, Mark Zessler, Colleen Wolfe, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys, and woman? I'm alive. Thank God. I know. I was worried when I looked at my mentions. I think my family and friends are too.

There was, and if you missed Friday show, which shame on you, if you did, Colleen was supposed to be on the show, was feeling under the weather, so she let us know she wasn't going to make it. Maybe, Mark, you mean, Greg, got a little carried away and wondering about how serious it could be right down to a eulogy of sorts or a memoriam-type scenario. Maybe we took it too far. I listened back to it.

I felt like we were trying to honor, you know, what she has accomplished up to this point just in case we, there was no further beyond the point. Maybe there was the, if that was the end of Colleen. We're prepared. Yeah, we did it happen. It was a really nice, which we wouldn't want it to, of course. Plus, we would get the scoop.

It should be our news to break. I'm glad I'm a news point. My mom did text me and she said, is everything okay with Colleen? And then we didn't hear from Colleen for like. Thanks, Mrs. Rose. We didn't hear from Colleen for like 24 hours. And then I was like, shoot, she pissed at us. I was sick.

There was a very large window where there was, you know, expecting like a sudden rash of tweets that night from Colleen or a couple hours after the total. Well, I get this like cryptic text from Dan. And he just says, you should listen to the pod. And then I was thinking like, never good. And then a couple people tweeted at me like, hey,

you could get, well, you know, my wording, but generally, you can get banged in a big spot if Colleen actually does kick it. Oh, my God. That would be off. That would have to pull that down. I'm glad you're worried about you. That would be the real tragedy there. Well, not you, not me.

I mean, the group. The group of us. He'll be off the podcast. We would, yeah. Honestly, the media group. We've been told us many times. Don't look at yourself as NFL.com, NFL now, NFL network. we're all under one umbrella and if we got that story wrong the NFL got that story wrong

that's right and we're happy to say we got it wrong Colleen's alive I'm here you haven't gotten rid of me yet good who would have thought you know it wasn't Colleen that was killed off but the Oakland Raiders oh nice transition I mean I mean that's terrible but and especially we have a lot of fans from Oakland I'm more I'm annoyed about it yeah we're all upset about it You know, we like to consider ourselves kind of a, what do they call it, like a megaphone? You're holding what looks like a microphone, but yeah, megaphone. I think we're all fans of football and we really empathize with the fans in Oakland because that will be the main topic today. We'll be talking about the Raiders are going to Las Vegas as soon as 2019 could be 2020.

We just did a NFL network live hit on it. and we will talk about it in-depth today's show, of course, sponsored by Mr. Flames' economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands. And, yeah, so we'll talk about the Raiders, the other stuff going on in the news. But, you know, it all kind of pales. I mean, this is a quiet time in the calendar.

So this annual NFL owners meeting, this, as we talked about on Friday, this was the big story. There's a bunch of, you know, what are the, float-sem? Flotsam. Jetsam and Flotsam? Thank you. I like float Sam. Well, go with that.

It's your show. That we were talking about, but that we'll be talking about. But the main thing is this Raider situation, and it does suck. It doesn't get much bigger than one of the league's most iconic franchises moving to Las Vegas, of all places. It would have been insane to imagine this even as a possibility five, ten years ago. You would have never thought the NFL would even consider it. Yeah. So if any team is going to go to Vegas, it makes sense that it would.

would be the Raiders, but it still stinks. You're absolutely right about that. And I think all of us growing up as football fans, if you watch like TV or movies and they always have fake football teams and those when you don't have the NFL licensing, it was always like, the Las Vegas Renegades, Las Vegas Outlaws. And it's like, you never thought they're the Las Vegas Raiders? This doesn't make any sense.

How did this happen? It's like I mentioned on the network kit, it feels like when you're just utterly, you're younger and just utterly hammered and playing maddening. coming up with the most convoluted, like, city and team combination. It's like, this just feels surreal. And the thing is, it's not a surprise. We knew this was going to happen. We knew this was in the books.

But now that it's happened, it feels so bizarre. And it's so awkward for fans that have to go to the games now in Oakland for the next two years before they make the move to Las Vegas. And it's sort of like, I mean, coming off this sickness, maybe I'm just, my head is in this space. But I feel like for the fans, you can look at it like it's kind of dealing with a terminal illness. So you have a chance to have those two years to say everything that you want to say. You can say your goodbyes and take your time with it and sort of ease yourself off of the team.

Instead of having them just suddenly gone in the middle of the night and you're left dealing with shock and emotions and feelings. You know, now you can just take your time and watch the team slip away. You know what? That analogy is fitting because. You know what? You know what my big takeaway with terminal illness is? Please. It sucks.

Yeah. It's a fitting analogy if like right after you're at the bedside and you're crying and you go to the funeral with your brothers and, oh, you know, we're all going to miss mom. You're looking for closure. And then you turn on the TV later that fall and you see mom's out with some other guy. Mom's fine. Mom's leading a double life. She's living.

She's fine. She's happy. and making more money else. Wait a minute. Then you feel a little different about the terminal illness. The Raiders don't have the terminal illness. Oakland as a football city does. Oakland ain't dating another guy six months later.

Oakland's got nothing now. Zero zip. All right, but let's say what Greg was understanding. Now I'm really confused. What does the Vegas guy that mom's now going to town with, explain it however you want? You know, he's muscle bound. He's got a big tan from all the pool nights or pool days at rehab.

You know, he's got the glasses on. He listens to club music. He's got Ciesto and Calvin Harris. He's, you name him. He's listening to these club bangers. And you're back in Oakland and you're like, Mom, you're supposed to be dead. Now we're getting a little distant. That's, yeah.

But like Vegas now has two teams. Now they have an NHL franchise and an NFL franchise after having zero. that Steve Weissman in our network hit broke that news to you to me anybody else did anybody else notice I didn't know the name of the team so that was news to me I was confused I was like is that a minor league team that's already there is that the hockey team that's moving there because I do they're starting this year next next NHL season I didn't know their names though golden nights and golden nights I am from the town of Pearl River New York it's a cold town very humble yes it is a very blue collar it's basically a Springsteen song set to life. It's like the place, it's the type of place Bill the Clintons would retire to. All right, Martha's.

All right, Martha. Anyway, we were the Pearl River Pirates and our chief rival were the Nanuette Golden Knights. And I didn't think the Golden Knights was the name that was going to get a lot of traction. Now it's a professional franchise. How are you feeling about this right now

that they're back in your life again? You know, we, every October we used to battle for the Little Brown Jug, the big football game. I don't have any other feelings other than reference to a little brown jug in a big spot. I think it's interesting, though, that the two commissioners that are the most against gambling, you have Roger Goodell and Gary Bettman, and now their teams are in Las Vegas. I think it's going to go slower than the country's attitudes towards legal marijuana,

which also is affecting the NFL, and I think it's going too soon because I think the N. NFL is going to change their drug policy. So it's not as severe if you get caught smoking weed. But in the same way that that's happened around the country faster than anyone would have possibly imagined, I think it's going that direction with sports gambling. It's a little tougher. It's a little longer of a road. But just the fact that the NFL is willing to move there, I think shows they see a future

where, okay, maybe this can be done responsibly. Sports gambling's not that big of a deal. The whole rest of the freaking world bets on sports in the U.S. doesn't. They bet on it like when they're going into the stadiums in basically. Well, we know that you know all about that. It's just, here's her thing. They were out of turns. It's easy to just rip the Raiders from one angle and say,

you shouldn't have done this, you shouldn't have moved. But they tried for a very long time. California's estate is not into financing gigantically expensive stadiums. They are not. And they basically, they ran out of moves. This gives stability and a modern stadium to the Raiders. This was the option. Let's break this down a little.

bit in terms of just like the X's and O's of the announcement today and what happened. So the NFL owners voted 31 to 1 on Monday. The Dolphins, and I'd love to know the reason why. He released the statement. What did Stevie Ross have to say? I kind of liked it what he had to say, actually. Miami was the coolest city before with a team. Now it's got Vegas to deal with.

I don't think that was the contents of the statement, but that's a good point. That was the official statement. He echoed really. what we have been echoing and I think we're going to continue to that we should keep the fans in mind that teams should do everything possible to stay in their home market

that a team like that is a public utility and they should basically try harder that that that keeping making these teams move around or letting these teams happen three teams in 14 months is bad long term for the NFL you know Stephen Ross way to be well an NFL network insider Ian Rappaport

said on the air before we came up here that the kind of the mood of why they downvoted it was not just the Raider situation but like you said the whole thing of we're shifting teams which is terrible for the NFL it is utterly terrible three moves in what 17 months

14 months including two major cities in California so San Diego loses the charges to L.A., which I think people are still trying to make sense of that. And now Oakland is a different situation. Now they go to Vegas. And it seemed like that San Diego, there was a deal that could be made there and the

ownership that just decided there was more money to be made in Los Angeles. This is a little more complicated issue, I think, in Oakland. Because going back to the current owner's father, they had been trying to build a new statement in Oakland for years and years and years. And they explored options in Los Angeles. That didn't work out. And then they looked to Vegas. and then Nevada lawmakers approve $750 million in public financing for a new stadium. That's a big part of this, too. In Bank of America, another $600 million. So that's a lot of people that aren't the Raiders.

We're kind of getting out of the era where cities are rubber stamping or these teams are forcing almost a hostage situation where they're saying, build us a stadium or we're leaving. Team cities, I feel like are smartening up and getting a backbone and saying, no, you're the billionaire, do it. But the problem with that is you can play hardball like that, but you could. end up like San Diego now Oakland, too. That's why it's such a bad situation. California is essentially a small nation, and they've got incredible issues. You know, we all live here.

And if you have kids in the school system, it's a disastrous school system in many cities. There's so many programs that are underfunded that money. Voters here are, they're going to put money and they're going to rubber stamp money towards things that matter more to their families. Which makes sense. I mean, this country is a mess right now. You know what school systems are struggling? Las Vegas, not exactly on top of things. Like, they just basically cut funding, you know, they cut funding to their schools to, like, increase class size.

And that is a drop in the bucket, like the money that they're taking out for schools compared to $750 million. So that all makes sense to me. It's really just because Mark Davis is not like other owners. And I don't think the Chargers ownership, the Spanhas is, are like other owners. If Mark Davis wanted to, I said it last show, like, he could find a billionaire in the Bay Area that could figure out his own stadium. But they can't afford it. They can't afford it. Here's what Mark Davis had to say at the annual owner's meetings

when it became official that the Raiders were going to Las Vegas. My father used to say that the greatness of the Raiders is in its future. And the opportunity to build a world-class stadium in the entertainment capital of the world is one opportunity that will give us the ability to achieve that greatness. And then Davis, and I will give him at least some, credit for this there was some self-awareness that maybe we haven't seen with some other recent owners about what this meant for the city he was leaving behind i have mixed feelings obviously i love

oakland i love the fans in oakland and i know that there's going to be disappointment and maybe some anger and i just hope that in the future as we play in oakland this year that they understand that it wasn't the players it wasn't the coaches that made this decision but it was me that made it And if they have anybody to talk to about it, it should be me. And I will, in the coming days, try to explain to them what went into making this difficult decision. Thank you. Mark Davis can't go to a game for like two years. Yeah.

It's going to be so strange the next two to three years. Let's get into that a little like they announced that they're going to play in the Coliseum this year. And they planned to the year after that. They did use the word plan to. So I think if this year went horribly wrong, they can get out. of that lease in 2018. The thing that was newsy to me, more newsy than anything almost in terms of surprise was Mark Davis kind of made the public pitch.

We'd love to stay in 2019 too if the Raiders fans want us to. Basically, I think their whole thing is they're going to try to keep all these fans and they're going to try to make it seem like a three-year goodbye, a three-year party and have a good atmosphere. And if they can, they might stay there in 2019. This is a three-year run-up until this stadium. is ready in Las Vegas. It's very strange.

It's very awkward. I hate that, though. I agree. That's having it both ways, which is like, hey, we want to turn this and to go back to the death analogy. We want to turn this into a three-year funeral. Like an Irish funeral. Yeah, an Irish funeral.

We're not here to mourn. We're here to celebrate the life of the Oakland. You know, screw that. That's bullshit. Or let's break up and still be friends. Yeah. Right. Exactly.

Let's call it what it is. You abandon your city and you need time to bridge the gap between that Vegas stadium. Let's not, you know, put lipstick on a pig here and pretend like, oh, it's going to be amazing these final years in Oakland. Enough of that. Right. Let's not act like the main reason is that the only other option they have in Las Vegas right now is an UNLV football stadium that is not up to snuff and we'll not be for another year at least. So if it is then, that's still not a good option for them.

But if things totally go south in Oakland, they're not going to hang around for another two years. I view that, you're right, it was a pitch. But it was also Mark Davis saying, hey, listen, maybe this will be. great for the people of Oakland. And at that point, you've got to say, enough. Your statement at this point has gone on too long. Thank you. I can't imagine being a Raiders fan right now.

And all of the emotions that you're going through. I would never want to go to a game and give them my money. Well, that, I agree with you. And I think there's going to be a ton of anger. And I think Raiders fans are more mixed on it than certainly Chargers of Rams fans, where it was all just Fury. But fast forward to late October, if the Raiders are seven and one, then what are you feeling?

Because it's this team you just invested so much in, not to mention the last 13 years of not having a winning record. You've got an MVP caliber quarterback, even if he's not making MVP decisions in terms of who follows him, who gets blocked on Twitter. You know, you've had this team that you're excited about, and maybe they're going to be in the mix, and what are you going to be feeling then?

How could you not get swept up a little but have mixed emotions? I don't know. I think there are two types of Raiders fans. As we mentioned on the NFL network, it's not the same as if you were an Oilers fan and it's curtains. Everything that you've rooted for is suddenly gone. Or if you were a Browns fan and they're gone and you don't know if you're going to get a team back. There are two types of Raiders fans. There are probably regional Oakland Bay Area fans that identify more with the fact that I'm from the Bay Area.

You don't diss the Bay Area. Maybe Little Debbie falls into that category. We don't know. But the other side is just pure Raiders fans. They still have their team. and they've dealt with a move already. This is unprecedented. It's a team moving twice now.

So I'm saying they've dealt with a move already. So, yeah. Think about this, Mark. It's crazy. You, as everyone in this podcast knows, Browns came back in 1999, 9 to Cleveland, have never identified a quarterback. They've struggled for 17 or 18 years now.

Imagine you, Mark, finally got the quarterback. And then the front office made the right draft decisions, and they stuck with their GM. A five-year process. They finally stuck with a plan and stuck with management and hit on a quarterback with a second round pick and you think you're set up as a fan for the next decade and then you get told that it's all that's getting the rug yanked out.

I don't know if there's away from you. People are saying like we don't, maybe the reaction isn't as hardcore as it's been in San Diego, Los Angeles. Maybe the Raiders fans in Oakland, first of all, we're not up there. Second of all, maybe they're a little bit in a shock right now because this has been hanging over them for years and years. but the fact that this is actually going to happen, you're going to lose Derek Carr,

you're going to lose this great talented offense, you're going to lose Khalil Mack. That is a crazy thought if you're a fan. I'm with you. I think the difference is that I would fall into at this point in my life. I'm Brown's fan. I'm not, the fact that it's, I don't live in Cleveland. I've never lived in Cleveland.

So it's like if you're more tied to them being interwoven with the city that you live in, raise your family in, have your kids and want them to be Raiders fans, suddenly they're uprooted, that fan's going to have a different reaction than the people we see all over the place. Everywhere you go, there's Raiders fans. And there's all this chatter out there about Raider Nation, number one, above all this.

Derek Carr actually called for that essentially in a statement. But I think you're right. We are five hours into this announcement. Let's see where fans are, you know, three or four months from now, if not weeks. And we'll see. I would say let's see seven years from now. You know, that's where I'm thinking once the buzz kind of wears off, and let's say that, you know, the Raiders are just back to being a middling team.

Like, this is a thing that I could imagine that the NFL made a huge mistake. Like, I rarely look at moves that the NFL makes and can't understand them. I can understand this, but think that it doesn't lack foresight. I could see this being something the NFL regrets in seven or eight years. Maybe I'm wrong. That's what Stephen Ross was saying, I think. That it's half filled with opposing fans. and there's not really a local community

and they lose a lot of the Raiders fans that they had, but they're not really gaining them and then they're just in this weird spot with a nice stadium. To the point of like the frustration again of the situation for the fans that get left behind, something I heard today on NFL Network and watch. I just want to play a clip from you. This was Steve Weish and Kim Jones talking at the owner's meetings.

No victory lap of any sorts from the league or Mark Davis. I think they understand. the pain that this is going to cause and folks in Oakland. So they were clear not to stick out their chest and say, hey, we're super happy to be coming to Las Vegas. All good, but a little bit of deja vu.

And then I read the statement from Derek Carr, as players we will show up and give everything we have. We will compete and we'll do our best to bring a championship to the entire Raider Nation. While I am from California and would have loved playing in Oakland my whole career, I understand the business side of the NFL.

It affects us all. That sounds a lot like Philip Rivers. Like, not to go back. to a point we already made, but three times in 14 months this is happening. This is bad business. And I would have never thought the NFL, which has never been more successful than it is now, Colleen, that this is happening now where we can't get these teams to stay put. We can't figure out solutions. And I think the blame falls on a lot of people, both inside the NFL and out. It's just so weird because we went so long without any franchises moving. And now all of a sudden we're banged three times in a row. but I want to know what happens, hey, with the players, the young players, like when you think about rookies and you're right out of college

and all of a sudden you're in Vegas of all places? Right, no one's even talked about that. Oh, my God. How do you survive that? Yeah. It's a great point in like, survive. Are we talking terminal again? I'm just thinking about survival.

Are you thinking like a zombie apocalypse is coming? I've been on the quill for a while. Do you know something? No, I'm just on a lot of meds. I mean, I think NFL players will love it. They will love the road trip to Vegas. And I think it might be a fun place for young people, you know, young people. Well, yeah.

But it's going to be, you know, the potential for insane stories and just everything coming out is high. All I'd say, though. I'm not going blue chips. Rap report mentioned that coaches last night were already, like, thinking about how to deal with that. Where you keep teams, you keep them 30 miles off the strip. They're saying potentially. But honestly, like, if you're 23, 24, you've got a ton of money. Any NFL city, you can go do whatever you want for the most part.

I mean, it's, yes, it's more overt. Think about when you guys have gone to Vegas. Well, think about what we sign every year as NFL employees, the NFL compliance plan. Like, it is literally against policy to stay in a hotel, I believe, that has a sports book in it. Like, think about, how do you do a Super Bowl? there then how do you really convince i don't it doesn't make it's complex but you talked about it culturally this is going to change i believe you can stay in the hotel you cannot set foot inside the sports book um i believe i believe that's what it is you're hoping that because you've

already shattered that compliance that's i feel like i that's something that i had heard that's all gregg is like the studio just goes dark i love that greg has at this point committed to memory the compliance outlines around any sort of gambling adventure. I make sure I'm with, I'm fully compliant. Rule 11C, measure A. It's like a beautiful mind. He's like writing it on the walls.

You bring up a good point, by the way, Colleen, about young guys, young girls, like going to Vegas for weekends and now, oh, we're going to build in the Raiders game. That's a little tricky. The game's going to be on Sunday afternoon. You're going to get into town Thursday or Friday. You have a bad weekend.

No, what they need is. You can afford anything. Well, yeah, the new stadium, though, needs to have IV stations, I think. Oh, there you go again. Right? Because they have IV buses there. Are you talking about the company you endorsed? No, what was this?

You were peddling that water product or whatever. It's liquid IV and it's a hydration. You're shameless, God. No, it's awesome. I drink it all the time. It's great. She's like, I got to get on the Raiders podcast. I got to sell this thing.

Greg, defending Colleen. You just asked her. I mean, you asked her what it was. She answered the question. Well, we're having fun, Greg. No, I keep buying it, though, for real. But the, no, that was shameless. That little aside right there.

I keep buying it, though. I keep buying it, because it works. But what about the IV buses and stuff that they have there? They have, like, people that will come to you and give you IVs. And, like, so that should totally be in the stadium. Colleen all over the IV bus situation in Las Vegas. Everyone else was like, oh, I didn't know about that. The plus is, yeah, as we said, if there was one NFL team in Vegas, Raiders, makes sense.

it could if the stadium is cool it adds another kind of layer to Vegas as a fun venue and I get the finance and it's all about money we know that like that's what this is this game's all about if you're an owner because the NFL team is your play thing

he's going from Oakland where they were like near the bottom of the pile making money in terms of revenue and if this works it's going to be insane the amount of money that that's why I think the NFL may not look back on it and say it's a mistake because they care about one thing I get it, but I think the NFL has done a good job over the long term of thinking big picture and thinking what's best for the league, not always just thinking about dollars.

And like, is it that big of a deal that one of your 32 teams is making less stadium revenue right now than the other teams? Aren't some things more important than that over a really long period of time? You got your answer. 31 owners told you the answer to that. Right. I think at a different point in NFL history, when there were more Roonies and Maras and all the original owners, maybe the decisions would be different. But now it's like, nope, we've got to bump them up to the 18th most valuable team from 32nd. But think about it, too. All of the hotels there and the casinos, they're going to buy suites in the new stadium.

They're going to be giving away tickets. And like if every single hotel, if you're the only hotel that doesn't have one, like, are they all, once one does it, then they all have to do it. All right. One question, Dan, you said that the Raiders are the best team to move to Las Vegas. What would be the worst, in your opinion? I mean, besides, I would say the Texans, that wouldn't work. Why would the Texans be the worst? The Las Vegas Texans?

It's kind of the contract of all sorts of. Oh, you mean just the name. I don't. Well, I'm just saying. Okay. Not roster or coach. There's a team called the Utah Jazz and nobody bats an eye, but I laugh about that. What about the Pelicans?

L.A. Lakers. They named them the Pelicans. I mean, the pelicans, a lot of pelicans down. Greg, you can attest to you are a big point. I mean, it was a surprising choice for a nickname, but it was their choice when they moved to New Orleans. It's true. It's an odd one.

Texans make sense from a pure naming standpoint, but they would probably rename it. Yeah, what, yeah. Well, all right. I'm going without renaming because that, that, I'm eliminating them in that because it seems like the most obvious. Yeah. No.

You don't need to listen. You can come back. Yeah, let me think about it. I'm not putting you on the spot. Slow the podcast down to a screeching halt there. The offense would be weird. They don't fit too well. Maybe the Giants, you know, the Giants have been there forever and they're kind of like,

hey, we're the classy New York team. From the Las Vegas Giants, though, kind of sounds like. The Vegas Patriots? Okay. They almost went to St. Louis. All right. Can we get through one show talking about Friends Patriots? It says the Jets fan.

Jets come up a lot on the show. Yeah. I apologize. They're a lot less relevant. Shut up. Oh, boy. The Vegas Saints would be good. All right, I'm done.

Yeah, Vegas Saints is good. It should be the Vegas Saints and Sinners. Ooh, the Sinners. I like that. Saints and Sinners is a woefully overpriced place for food in New Orleans. I remember that game. Greg, it used to be a Culver City Bar. I believe owned by the guy who is the lead in the male strip show movie.

Slow down. I'm really getting old. He's a very famous guy, but I can't think of his name right now. Poor Sidney. You know, there is, I don't want to, I want to table the discussion. Yeah. Until, well, the male strip club discussion, yes, as well. Permanently tabled.

That's permanently tabled. The other discussion I want to hold for Wednesday because Wes has to be here for it. But I don't, I don't want to do it, and I know we had rules. What is it? But Wes, Wes is a desert consigliary. Spice rack. It might be good to get some perspective on a guy that actually lives in Las Vegas.

I think he might have a little Debbie. Ooh, I agree with that. I think you need both on Wednesday. And you get in touch with Lil Debbie's people if you can make something happen? Yeah. It was Channing Tatum, by the way. Tatum.

We had tabled that conversation. I brought it back. I think it might, and we'll let West decide because it was his buddy that, of course, and on some level, Wes has felt let him down with some of his past appearances. But if ever there was a time to check back in with the spice rack.

I don't know. I totally agree with you. There's some other news to hit. So why don't we do it? So let's see what else is in the news. It's alive. It's alive. It's alive.

I'm alive. You're alive. I get it. Good job, Sid. Because you died. But now you're not. You got. hack like Lazarus.

All right. So, yeah, there's the other stuff in the news. It's kind of a bit of several steps down in terms of irrelevance. But let's talk about Adrian Peterson and still doesn't have a team. He released a statement on his social media handles. Of course he did it on Twitter. I think you might have done it on Facebook. And I'll read it real quick here.

You can't believe everything you read or hear people. Oh, this was in reference to the report. out there that he was seeking $8 million annually as a salary, which I think we talked about briefly on Friday, which is kind of crazy considering the market for veteran running backs. You can't believe everything you read or hear, people. The last thing I'm worried about is playing ball this coming season. That will happen. It's not all about the money as everyone is speculating here lately.

Blah, blah, blah. Let me eliminate questions or speculation as to why I believe whole, I believe wholeheartedly, my God will land me right where I need. to be to accomplish what I've asked from him, period. He's looking for the best fit. A team that he could help in a major way win a championship. Interesting. Well, of course he's not worried about it right now because all the other big name

free agent running backs are off the market. So it's really just him sitting there. And he's 32 coming off a meniscus tear. Like what else does he have to do? He has no other choice. I was confused, but I didn't, I read this statement. First of all, I wasn't even sure what he was referring to in the first place. And then he said, how prideful is it for me to put out?

I won't play for anything less than $8 million, exclamation. I don't know what he was even trying, like what the point he was trying to prove there. Confusing. But however he was. I was trying to say, like, who am I to say that I wouldn't play for anything less than that? Well, here's who you are. You're the person who hired the agent who said that you want $8 million. Yeah, I think it's a statement reflecting on whatever he's hearing behind the scenes.

It says, you definitely are not. going to be making $8 million a year. So get out ahead of it and act like that's nonsense. I would never demand such a thing. Not you, Adrian Peterson, no. We continue to hear Marshaun Lynch and all these little stories. He's got his tank is full. He's rejuvenated.

The Raiders could be interested, blah, blah, blah. Greg, the Peterson to Oakland still makes a lot of sense. But let's be honest here, where else could this guy play? Does anybody else have a team to throw out that maybe hasn't been discussed that makes sense at this point he's got to get a job somewhere it's almost april have you talked about the lions i haven't maybe the lions he goes to a division rival buccaneers they need an every down back i think he should do i think the buccaneers have been a great fit and i think like all of these teams are waiting for that price to come down i think if

he said i'll play for one million i mean one year two and a half million there'll be teams interested and i think the bucks would be one of them but i think he should do that before the draft because that's one thing depressing his market already is how good this draft class is. And then I think once you get, you know, 10 running backs in the first three rounds or whatever it's got to be, and, you know, three or four in the first, you know, 35 picks, like those teams are really going to be off the market for a guy like Adrian Peterson. So I now. Moving on, the Buffalo News is the major daily in the Western New York region.

And Jerry Sullivan is a columnist for that news. paper great NFL coverage by the buffalo news one of the one of the standouts i would say and uh jerry wrote a column that was published today uh over the weekend headline bills should fire dug waley and be done with it i'm just going to read the opening two graphs here because jerry doesn't pull any punches here i'm actually beginning to feel sorry for dug waley bit by bit the bill's general manager has seen his power and stature diminished as a pugula's confirmed deferred, unprecedented control of the football operation to their new head coach, Sean McDermott. Well, he has become a mute, a masculated figure.

He's not allowed to speak for the organization anymore, even on the rare occasions where they used to trust him. The latest indignity is his exclusion from next month's pre-draft media luncheon. So what if you read, I read the whole comment. It's, it's good. It's well written and it makes sense. There's logic to it. But Sullivan's basically getting at, they decided to make McDermott, like the all. seeing Oz guy in Buffalo, which, let's be honest, that's a risky move,

making him a Belichick guy when we don't know if he can do anything. He's never been a coach or a GM or anything. And that puts Whaley in a position where he's basically lame duck or something worse waiting to be fired or should he quit and try to keep his dignity? It's a situation. It's similar to what happened to Howie Roseman in Philadelphia with Chip Kelly. He came out the other side. I know.

Not that Doug Whaley is going to. That won't happen here. but it is very peculiar that they're i don't understand why they didn't fire him at the same time as rex right why didn't they just clean the house entirely gms don't usually get the opportunity to work with multiple coaches to work with multiple quarterbacks and to in that period of time clash with multiple i mean really clashed with dug marone and he clashed at least ideologically with with with rexion it's it's like how is this guy continuing to exist in this organization it it's frustrating for bills fans that you're starting a new era

in a month into it like a local the local column this is writing fire the gm and and getting away with it it's like the imagine being jerry sullivan just you see doug waley at the 7-11 or something awkward you know that's kind of very awkward i mean just you can't publish this article until you just are confident this guy's on the way out and they're the the organization's not going to just crush our paper for something like this. The marriage of Whaley and McDermott seems strange that you would even go into it. And it sounds like McDermott is the one that's getting to pull the strings now. The only thing I can think of is he's waiting to be fired so he can get paid for the rest of his contract. And maybe they're just keeping him to be a scapegoat for McDermott

if McDermott's moves don't totally pan out. It's good to have scapegoats inside the organization, any organization. The Pagoolas, they built, they bought the bills. Why do you think we keep Sully around? It's a decent point. It's totally even back there right now, no. I thought it was a total sniper fire from doing. A total snipe job.

That was the exact word I was. Although I agreed with his point, so I'm right there with him. Yeah, I thought he was back there still. It's funny. And this, this speaks to the frustration of Bills fans that, because again, they have not been in the playoffs since the 99th season, which is even if you're in Tom Brady's division, that's unacceptable. And there's such a frustration.

The Bukula's were hailed as saviors when they stepped in and saved the bills from potentially being moved out of Buffalo. But now you could really feel even, what are we, 3,000 miles away. You could feel the chill, both from the media and the fans of the bills who are sick of it. They are sick of everything around this team. Their inability to get things together and have a couple 10-win seasons and just get rolling in the right direction. They can't do it.

And I think Whaley is like he's a symbol of that. Like they refuse to really do things the right way and it keeps them behind the curve. I get it. As a Jets fan, I get it. Well, you can't sympathize with them then if that's the case until they get rid of him and until they just fire him. I guess the point is that he is kind of gone. But he's just living in the building now.

And he called him a mute emasculated figure, Jerry did. I mean, Jerry is pitying him. That's terrible. Pull the trigger. Get him out of the building. All right. Nice imagery, you know, with the chill coming over, Buffalo. Yeah.

A little lake effect snow burying Buffalo once more. A little temp talk in a big spot. People love talking about the lake effects snow, you know, during Bill's games or whatever. It's always the lake effects now. Everybody's got to come down with the lake effects snow. Right. You ever lived up there? What do you know about Lake Effects snow?

I'm just saying, just called snow. I mean, it's snow. You don't see, like, the opposite gender for, like, eight months in upstate New York. That's just western New York. You went to, like, approximately 14 colleges. One was up in that area. Ithaca college, but both of my grandparents lived in Syracuse and Ithaca, and we would take these drives up in the winter.

It's no joke. That winter is not something to be trifled at. I used to go to wrestling matches up there. It's crazy. You would wrestle up there. We'd go to wrestling matches there. I was the wrestling manager at Drexel. I thought you meant like WWF.

No, Ithaca. You were the wrestling match manager? Yeah, it was my workstack. so I got paid for that. Did you get cauliflower ear and viral skin diseases as well? Ew, thank God. No, what do you get? You get like ringworm, right?

From the mats, no, that was disgusting. But I learned how to score matches. How about that? I covered wrestling at my old newspaper and never learned how to score matches. You didn't? Every match I covered became a human interest, puff piece about some kids fight to overcome the odds. Same thing when they had me. They sent me to cover swimming and diving.

Oh, I did that. I'm like, you think I'm going to know what's a good dive and a bad dive? Right. Let's do some human interest pieces and be done with it. I did that with lacrosse. I have no idea. I couldn't cover. I would get into the fifth inning of a baseball game and I have no idea what's happening.

Honestly. I mean, like, if you start, no, if you're covering baseball and they don't have the scoreboard up, and it's just humans playing baseball and it's high school, like, low-level field. You're not keeping score. Oh, I'm trying to keep score in a book. I took it seriously, and you're trying to keep score. And like I'm, I'm like 16 years old, not even drinking beer. I would get into the fifth inning, and I realize I have no idea what the scores.

And which person from the team I'm supposedly covering do I acknowledge at the end of the game? I have no idea what the score was. I don't know who did what. I have to write an article on this. I quit. I'm done. I'm out. Drive home.

Drive to Costa Rica. Little Ralph Barry stood on that diving board and looked out to the water. But he might have been looking out to the world, for all we know. So much was on the shoulders in that moment. Barry came through. And then you just plug in the scoring. Get some quotes. Get out of there.

Get out of the coach. Get out. And away we go. What was the name of the newspaper? The journal news. Ah. Yeah. All right.

Also home to Ian Rappaport. Yep. Ian Rappaport. He used to use the initial. I don't know if I'm breaking news. Does that count? I break that? Oh, geez.

You like that, Greg? I like it. Ian used to go by Ian R. Rappaport. I mean, uh... Wow. The bar lowering, right, constantly on this news breaking three of yours. You got to find out what the R stands for. A-T-A, T-A, T-A, inside of your time, inside of day, hands, hand, for the truth, go to the sooos.

Get him on. The gong and the dolphin. That's how easily we're triggering that drop, Sydney. I worked hard on that drop. I played as much as I can Don't let them shame you Get your mileage out of it please The way they try to shame me

Don't we got to be stronger than that Bring me down, thank you, yeah Stay strong That's what's happening in the news I was going to talk about The Bears and Packers players Yeah what happened to that one At Sharky's Funhouse

Not a lot to get to there You know what are you going to do Greg wasn't thrilled about the story And we're a little short on time I mean she just summed it up Sharkies Sharky's Funhouse That's where they were

the night they got arrested. Would you, if you were a younger fan, Mark, when you were a Browns fan all of 16 years old, would you have been upset to hear about an off-season story with a Browns player, say, an Eric Metcalf and a Steelers player, say a Bubby Brister, arrested together? Yeah, I think I would have. I mean, I remember being utterly horrified when I found out that Hulk Hogan and Iron Sheik were arrested together in a car in, like, North Carolina. It blew my childhood mind away. I didn't understand why they would be actual friends.

Yeah. Wow. That would be especially, like, alarming because they really did try hard to keep the curtain down at that time. Yep. K-Fab? K-F-F-A-B? Any wrestling fans out there can correct me on that. That's the inside terminology. To break K-F-F-B-A-F-B?

What? K-A-F-A-B-E. Whatever. We'll get in. to that at another time. Wow. Let's hit the bell back. This show has a terminal on this suddenly.

Okay. In professional wrestling, K-Fib is the portrayal of stage events within the industry as real or true, specifically the portrayal of competition, rivalries, and relationships between participants as being genuine and not of a staged or predetermined nature

of any kind. Good nugget. How do you pronounce it? Shut up. K-fee. I don't know. All right, here we go. There we go.

Let's do some mailbag questions. Mel time. Mail time. Mail time. It's jaunty. I loved it. I loved it. The first one here.

Luke Undlin at Lund 2887. More likely to be a pro bowler this year, Tom Savage. Keep Sidney on their toes. Tom Savage. Tom Savage is real. Or, be ready to sit in here. Christian Hackenberg. Christian Hackenberg is real?

More likely. What kind of question is this? It's obviously Tommy Savage. Who looked like you had a little bit of promise and has a chance to start week one for a team? I don't think it's a great chance because I think Tony Romo will be there. But if Tony Romo is not there, I fully expect Tom Savage to be there week one starter. I'm with you.

And you could go eight weeks before we even see Christian Hakenberg. If things play out, probably Bryce Petty would be number two behind Josh McCown. So you're not going to win MVP by taking it over on Halloween. Plus they generally describe his... Not MVP, by the way, Pro Bowl. Pro Bowl, yeah. They're going to go one in 15. There's not going to be a lot of Pro Bowl players on the Jets.

As Joe Beningo would say, from your lips to God's ears. They generally describe Hakenberg's, you know, football ability in practice to be something akin to, like, a sixth grader. I mean, they're cruel to Hakenberg. I'm not the way. I'm just saying they're brutal talking about it. Tom Savage is more real than Christian Hackenberg, according to your sound drops. Yes, absolutely, absolutely more real. Who starts more games?

Is Tony Ruham we're going to be on the Texans? Is that going to happen or what? He could be announcing Texans games. I will say yes, though. Okay. This one from Scott at Scott. Scott underscore Mets 2112. It's a mouthful, Scott.

I'm not going to say your Twitter handles bad. There's just a lot going on there. A lot of characters. 2112. Should Browns tell Garrett and Watson to kiss off at number one because of their quote unquote jokes? Trubisky wants to be in Cleveland. Now, a little background to this.

Definitely not. I believe Garrett sent out the word or someone did or something was reported that he wanted to go to the cowboy. He made a joke. It was a joke. It was a video. Deshawn Watson. I don't even know the Watson situation, but I guess something similar happened.

I think to a lesser degree. Yeah, anti-Cleveland or I want to go somewhere else. Who knows? Mitchie Tribisky wants to be in Cleveland. Now, it's kind of a silly question, but a good one, Scott. But the point is a real one, I think. The fact, Mark, that Cleveland has this bad reputation, would you not want a guy that had some negative things to say about your franchise?

Very briefly. Not at all. I would absolutely take those players because we just spent 20 minutes talking about the Raiders, a team that no one wanted to go to four or five years ago. If Cleveland got good, do you know what's going to happen in that city? It will be bigger than the Cavs. I promise you. Bigger than the Cavs. It is a football city at its heart. And he could be part of that. Any players they pick can be, they should want that challenge. Here we go. This one from Gavin Harris at Gab Pedro. You can choose any city in America. Greg, we'll start with you on this one. for an expansion team, which city do you choose and why? Any city you want, buddy boy.

Any city. Not Martha's Vineyard, but anywhere else. I mean, I would go San Diego. I mean, that sounds like, I don't know what the word would be sentimental or something, but it's the right choice. It's a huge, great football market, and they don't have a team. If we're trying to think of cities that have never had an NFL team. That's good.

I think I didn't think of that immediately, but that's a great choice. How about that, Mark? A little empathy from Greg over there. I mean, oh. It's a very human. Very human moment from Greg Rosenthal. Colleen.

What about? I hear Austin is really cool. That would be cool. Austin, Texas. I have no idea. But you know, it's like, I think it's the charm of Austin. And I know a little bit about it.

Emily's from Texas. I got married. Oh, so you're an insider again, huh? Well, a little bit. A little bit. A little bit. We don't need the drop. We don't need the drop.

That's not breaking. news but part of the charm is that it's a nice little city and keep Austin weird that type of vibe hipstery well that it's funny it's funny you say that because the i believe the original slogan was my the other city that came to mind keep Portland weird yeah it's big big uh week for the northwest with a couple college basketball teams how about throw an NFL team in Portland okay works for me works for me good answers guys moving on What else we got here? How about the Anchorage arrows?

Put a team up in Anchorage, Outdoor Stadium, get men that know how to play in the most freezing temperatures, and you just destroy teams, 51 to nothing. You throw the ball once a game, maybe. Would you cover them? On television from here, sure. I'll take you a step further. You're already in Alaska.

Let's take the B-Bin'Russia, the Russian Rockets. Oh, I thought it was the United States. I would definitely pick a team outside of the states, number one. The Russia rockets. Where in Russia? Middle of Moscow. What's going on here? Minsk.

It would be in Minsk. Why not go Siberia at that point? Suddenly Russian intelligence has appeared to have connected with our host. Is now impacting. Russia is one of the great superpowers. And we should all respect what they have to say. All hail to Russia. Russia has it together.

Moving on, Mark, this question is for you. Sure. Dean Bonner. At Dean in the yay. Good one, Dean. How many teams are legitimate, and all kidding aside here, just give me a number, Mark. How many teams are legitimate contenders for the Super Bowl next year?

Four. Stop. I know, Greg, you don't like that. To make the Super Bowl or to win it? Super Bowl contenders. Okay, I guess to win. I'm saying to win four Oh to win

To win I'll go four To get there Seven Okay who can win Who can feasibly win The Super Bowl Patriots Right

Packers Steelers Cowboys Everybody else can go home The Seahawks have no chance They don't make my cut Do you have the Raiders on there Your card is arbitrary

Tough day for Oakland I mean There's all this assumption in the NFL network, too, it's like the Super Bowl contending Raiders, make a big push and get to the Super Bowl next year. Like, okay, look, a lot needs to happen for that to be the reality. They had a magical season last year. That doesn't touch doesn't happen every single season.

Yeah, that's fair. Maybe I'm being a little conservative with four, but I don't think it goes beyond four or five. Don't say chiefs. Colleen, are you going to say cheese? Wild card round, they're out. They have a legitimate shot to get to the wild card round. Next up, Tom,

Marshall, a Red Zona, UK. How long until Las Vegas gets a Super Bowl? Super Bowl 60, maybe? It makes sense that Vegas would become, because, you know, all the conventions, if you're from the states, Vegas is like the convention capital of the world, so they can host big events. They have a convention center.

They have arenas. There's no shortage of entertainment. Obviously, I would think Vegas, yet, Greg, more competition for New Orleans to get the game that they deserve every fourth year. So annoying. Inglewood has the 20-21 Super Bowl, so the next one available is 2022.

And if the recent track record is any indication, that'll be Las Vegas. You get it about two years after you open your new stadium. They're opening in 2020. That would be the time, basically the next one. Jack Clark at Southerner Jack. likelihood of the return of team of ATN and the chances that team makes the playoffs.

It's a thorny issue. It's a thorny issue. It's been kind of problematic for you guys. It's been a tough season. What do you think, Mark? Will the segment return? Yes, I would be fine if it didn't, but I feel it will be somehow,

we'll somehow force it upon ourselves. No, I feel like that's been the attitude. It'll be like, oh, right, guys, let's get jazzed up again. for it it's like okay here we go mark was burned last year oh that was a tough year for mark i mean not only the browns go one and 15 you were out in front with the vikings and that got that got a little personal and nobody enjoyed it and you enjoyed it the least it was not fun um yeah i i'm not like longing for that segment to come back i don't i think there's major like organic issues to begin

with because usually half the people have to pretend to be excited about the yeah it's been a while Since we all have two teams. Or never. See, we've gone down all those routes in terms of breaking down how to fix it. And then it just becomes convoluted. You're already up your own ass and then how much further can one go when you have multiple teams? I would be willing to pick it out of a hat, but I know that other people would not be many, many of this group. I kind of love that idea, actually.

And whoever we take, you have to get on board. Well, if we picked, if we picked like maybe a handful of finalists that we agree out, and then you pick that out of that. All 32 teams. I think it's that. Then we're already getting. getting into all this like checks and bounces like it's 32 teams you pick one and you know what you can't complain we're not trying to convince each other you can't be but you can't be later say oh it's dan's fault that this is our right and we'll have someone else pick maybe the person

we could we could blame that person i i i really like this so i'm not picking i'm not picking can we do can we do ping pong balls could we have a could we have a lottery yeah make it an event that i can that i can get excited about that's a great idea we have a lot of hours to fill this. A lot of hours. From Philip Gaffee at P.Gaf 71 is the last time we will see the infield and pitchers mound on the middle of a football field. He's referring, of course, to the Raiders who are the final team to share, NFL team

to share a facility with the baseball team, the Oakland Athletics. Yeah, this could be it. I think it's definitely it, barring some one game weirdness somewhere. it will be yeah it seems like a relic from another time already whenever it happens now but yeah this is it this will probably be the last time the because it's such big business bigger than ever the idea of the NFL and MLB being a business together it's just not going to happen that's what that's what ultimately killed them in this stadium situation is being partners with the A's and this terrible lease that they sign it's so distracted when you're watching the game too

I like it as a like growing up in the 80s there were probably five or six teams that had that early in the year and it was kind of a cool marking of early season football but I think if anything it'll be written up in a future packed between the players and the owners that we don't play on dirt surface we're not we're not going to do that when we're making the contracts we're making next up

how long until Greg Rosenthal is too famous for the podcast and you can only get him on as a special guest Look out It's NFL Network's Greg Rosenthal Call the Sheriff So ridiculous Greg, any truth I love that drop

As far as I've seen We've been on NFL network a lot more than I ever was, you know, during the season that we made such a big deal out of. So maybe it should be NFL networks, you know, Greg Rosenthal, Dan Hansis, calling Wolf, Mark Sessler, and Chris Wesleying. But still your name first, okay. Oh, interesting. Notice the little bit of like sadness in Greg's voice when he speaks about this reality that we're all on together now as opposed to it.

It is a lot more fun and the segments are a lot better. That's for sure. By the way, Zikis, great job with that drop. Maddie Zick is a girl. We were listening to it in the office. the other day, just playing it over and over. People should watch up to the minute, by the way, on Tuesday. Forget about Matt Ziggis.

Slime ball. Zick has just got more pop than he ever expected. So, all right. That was enough. Go ahead, Greg. Wow. Area Nialist shimes in. Two to three Pacific, five to six Eastern.

Up to the minute. We'll be on Tuesday. Brett Loveday at Cow Yank. Who amongst the heroes do we trust least in Vegas? What does that even mean? To do what? There's a couple categories. All right.

This is how I see it. Greg, in general, you kind of have your stuff together in the sense that you're, unless it's like a really crazy night, Greg's not going to go too high or too low. And that's a compliment. So I don't think you could, it would be a situation like, where is Greg? I'm not going to be the answer to this question. Yeah. To a lesser extent, I would put myself in that category too where I might have a, I might have like a, like a, like a, like a. I saw you in Palm Springs.

Palm Springs night, but you're not, I'm not going to disappear and I'm not going to, like, gamble away my son's college fund. Like, I'll have some connection. I'll be tethered just a little bit, despite what he's on pop spring. I'm very skeptical. Okay. All right. Speak on it. Let me finish first, and then you can chime in.

Wes hates Vegas. So Wes would just stay at the hotel bar, wouldn't gamble, wouldn't go to the pool. Maybe he'll go to the pool. but he would just enjoy himself and have some spirits and he might get really drunk but you know where to find him at the end of the night he'll be at the lobby bar true yeah Mark

Mark's to me marks the answer because if you have one of your like fun Mark nights I could see you disappearing and making some new friends going down some wormhole that takes you out of Vegas entirely all of a sudden you're in Henderson like I could see Mark Just by his adventurer's spirit if the night hits you a certain way.

Talking Ion eagle somewhere with someone. Or if it goes really wrong, you're six feet under the desert. You're buried under a cactus. Halfway to wherever. That's fantastic. I am not a gambler, number one. Like I always roll in no capital. But in my mind, I would be like, because I'm not gambling, any money, I can spend so much more money doing other things.

And that's when the, but I think most of us as a group would be in much more trouble in a smaller setting. Really? Yes, I really do. I think Vegas to me, it's like I'm not really into Vegas, but this group in general, when things have gotten completely off the rails, it's at like at Palm Springs. It's at a, suddenly the cozy has something going on that they don't know how to handle. It's like, it's not at a larger venue necessarily, except for Super Bowls and combines. Right. In other events.

All right, Colleen. you're you're uh you deliver the final verdict um here's the question okay who amongst the heroes do we trust least in which by the way mark doesn't mean i would trust you the least but it would be the biggest wild card i hear you feel free to surprise us try yeah trust is sort of a weird thing in Vegas because lots of things happen in Vegas but in terms of like biggest wild card it's obviously it's sessler we've we've all seen sessler we've all been together with each other and these moments and i could

totally see that. But Dan is right there behind Sessler. Thank you. It's one A, one B. You don't know what you're going to get. And just from what we saw in Palm Springs, I think that I got a little taste of that. You know, I got to agree with that. We haven't had a chance to talk about Palm Springs.

Yeah. I think what happened was Mark and I, we got helicoptered into the event. And we kind of came in what seemed to be like a neutral zone where there was some recovery night going on. and we had some authorities issue. And Mark and myself... The real cops came, by the way. You keep saying that the, like, the renegade cops came. Well, we've been corrected on that.

We've been corrected on that, yeah. So I think, at least from my point of view, I wasn't looking for anybody to get summons. Summases or anything, but daddy drove to Palm Springs. When a dad that has kids can get away for a night, daddy's going to take advantage of it. And you did. And you did.

And you sure did. I didn't do anything to make you uncomfortable Colleen. No, never. I did send the invariate, like, you knew this text was coming if you're Colleen and Gone, so it was like I didn't do it the next day. It was like a couple days later, like, hey, had a really good time. Thanks so much. Like, dot, dot, dot.

Like, hope everyone's, like, still cool with us. There was a general vibe in the morning. I'd be like, I don't know if we're friend or foe here. Maybe we should just get out of here. No, no. I was actually going back and looking through my videos and pictures and Snapchat's,

and we all had a really great time together. It was a great night. You did a great job. Thanks. Daddy's going to talk in the third person all night. Greg, you understand my general point, though, third person aside. When dad gets out of the house, especially when you get

the second kid. Spring break. It changes everything. It is spring break. You're an animal let out of a cage. You just have to go literally nuts for 24 hours. Then you're back into your world and you do a great job. Dan at one point took the speaker from me that was playing the music and put it on top of the oven hood so I couldn't reach it because I kept taking it from him to turn it down and then he just kept turning it up louder and louder and louder. Sounds like I was being a jerk, but it was just trying to have fun, you know.

Last question. This comes from Gmail. We're going to work this off off mic. We're going to get through this. No, there's nothing to get through. On mic, there's nothing to get through. All good. If you want to send, you could send them any time around the NFL podcast at gmail.com, another way to send us mailbag questions. The last one will be for Sydney. It's actually titled Sydney related Alvaro Matteo had this for you, Sid, over under on six flags visits this year. We've already had one. so we'll set the over-under at 0.5, Sidney, over-under.

Wait, including the one I just did? No, not including that one. Probably a safe bet to go over, but not much over. What? Hey, Sid, you promised me it was a one-time transgression. I don't like this in all. I mean, I'll have you know that I was driving home from Anaheim at midnight last night, so it's not like Mickey and I are on bad terms to...

Mickey keeping you out late. What goes on in Disneyland? Oh, that's really upsetting. What's going on, Mickey, that late at night? What happens at midnight at Disneyland stays there, Greg? So creepy, then. Yeah, the most. Thank you. It's good to have someone who has my back.

You'll be sorry. Bozo. Is this such a good time to check the sink on these podcast bozos? All right. That's it. That's it for today's show. You're going back, huh? I thought you didn't like it.

You're back, though, huh? Six Flikes? Yeah. I enjoy the rides. I don't enjoy that Valencia is essentially an oven that is just used to bake everything under the sun. Why don't you go watch a few Las Vegas Raiders games. See how that goes for you? No, thank you.

We'll be back on Wednesday. Chris Wessling will be back with us, God willing. Colleen, you're a warrior. God willing, I'm back. You beat the odds and you sat in this chair like a champion. Thank you. You're welcome. It means a lot to us that you would come back so soon after that.

And again, whatever. After my death. No, after. Whatever happened in Palm Springs. I just wanted to have fun. He sent me a Venmo like later in the week. It just said to make the desert problems go away. I like the Venmo note option

Have fun with that All right That's it Thank you Colin This is Dan Hans Signing off Four Quiet Storm

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