NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Manziel Return and Making Tired Story Lines Disappear

Episode Date: May 22, 2018

A room filled with a couple of heroes- Dan Hanzus & Gregg Rosenthal give you all of the latest news around the NFL including 2023 Super Bowl to Glendale and Nashville expecting to land the 2019 Draft. (07:38) Lions Head Coach Matt Patricia won’t face league discipline (12:40), and Johnny Manziel returns to pro football (18:53). The heroes bring back a fan favorite segment: MAKING TIRED STORY LINES DISAPPEAR including the speculation of dysfunction in New England. (32:55).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's one of my favorite heroes, easily top three. Yeah, I barely crack the top three. You know that voice. That's Greg Rosenthal. What's up, fella? I'm not used to being the only person in here, so I jumped into your introduction before you were done. No, there are no rules because, and you know I've said this before, I always love when we have

a new combination when you've done a show, like we've done, what, 600, 700 episodes, to have a new combo in the studio. It's never been the Dan and Greg show. I don't think so. This is the first. And knowing, in the listeners don't know, but I know that the loose canon, Erica Tamposi is back behind the glass.

It adds another little flavor to it. So this is a new group. It's a bit of an edge to the show and I like it. And, you know, befitting the unusual nature of today's program. Greg and I, if you know our show well, if you've seen our video hits or photos, on Twitter, we sit on the same side

of the table that kind of, it's like a boomerang shape and neither of us wanted to move to the other side. A little bit of stubbornness or just superstition I don't know what it is. Posi set up my headphones over on the other side, so she was thinking I would do that. I would be the logical one

to move, but I don't want to move. Well, there's two ways to look at it. Either you should move because this is the host spot I'm sitting here or you were in the studio first and since you already sitting on this side. I should have moved over. But what it came down to, and I think it's a good maybe measure or indication of our

personalities, neither of us were moving. That was the decision that was made. No, I don't want to feel. When I sit over there, feel strange. Yeah. So we're going to be comfortable. It's a two-man show. Yes, we had a two-man show on Friday. Me and Sessler, we did it, Mike and the Mad Dog style. I was a little surprised that today was a two-man show. I maybe should have known, but I didn't process that Wes was still going to be traveling back from Tybee. Mark. He did it again. He found his way out of the studio during the offseason.

He's on vacation, and we hope he's really enjoying it. He's certainly not listening to our show, and I wouldn't expect him to. And so try to find maybe somebody that wanted to jump in, but on short notice, couldn't make it happen. So it's you and me, Greg, and I'm excited. I'm loving it. And because of all these cancellations, I've heard there's a surprise at the end of the show that Loose Cannon might be a part of. Yeah, there's some buzz. How about that, Cannon?

how about them apples i like it i like the can is still here me too i don't i mean that's a whole thing uh and i like uh that we have a lot to get to on today's show including some super bowl venue pop where's the super bowl going to be held everybody likes to talk about that um some interesting richie incognito news that uh gregg deserves a little pop himself for predicting accurately before it happened. Johnny football update. And then we're going to bring it back a segment from last year. We're going to make some tired storylines disappear, kind of storylines that have been active narrative threads since the Super Bowl heading into the summer months. And Greg and I will trade a couple of storylines. We just like to say, go I, go away. That's it. We don't need it anymore. We're done.

How is Tybee, by the way? Tivey's amazing. Yeah? Tell me. about it i mean first of all you i don't know what that's this what it sounded like no not at all somehow that's insulting uh tybee is a place to who you it i don't know it's i'm yes because i'm part of type you okay tell us i mean uh tell us about the like there's a guy there was a guy we met at the bar one of the nights huckapoo's joel whose prime job it seems to be is he just he just he just decides and tells people, you're not, you're Tybee. You're not Tybee. He decides if that person is Tybee or not. That's kind of his phrases. What, basically, but my point to what you were

saying is, is I'm Tyby. He said that you were Tyby. No, he didn't. I tried to fuck the tables and tell him, tell him that I was Tybee before he even had a chance. Why do you think he said you weren't Tyby? He didn't say anything. He didn't say anything about that. But he was a star. I loved it. The time sort of stopped while we were there. Shout out to the Corain brothers who were big stars of the weekend. They made, I don't know if you mentioned on Friday's show, but the Fantasyland podcast about Chris Wessling's recovery from cancer, which is unbelievably well done.

Two of the guys that made it brothers were down there for the weekend. They added a lot to them. Which, by the way, is very Wessling too. And we've talked about it before, totally different than me. Just like Wes going public with his cancer battle. and everything makes Wes a lot different than me. But Wes being like, hey, these guys that I talk to a lot for this project, I don't really know them personally,

but come on down to my very personal sanctuary and Tybee and let's have a weekend together. That's very Wes. And it makes him that type of thing. They added a lot to it. There was one of them was named average hair. And the other one was named Fancy Hair or something nice hair, at least named by Nick Wesleyan, who was another star of the weekend.

Oh, Nick. Brother. He's a rabble rouser. And it was just like people, you know, we spent much of the weekend. and I think I mentioned it on Friday at Rosie and Wayne, it was the house we stayed at their garage bar, which is like the cheers of garage bars. And just basically it felt like the entire island

is walking by and stopping by. I got the spin going and cornhole now as a productive. Oh, good. I don't know how I felt about you guys hanging up on me after. We didn't hang up. You hung up on us. Why would we hang up on you? We asked the question to you, I believe, or Wes,

and we got hung up on. if Lindsay was not with us this week, but if she was here, she would tell you that's exactly what transpired. Okay, well, it cut out. All right, so it sounds like a successful trip. How was the big fish, Evan Silva? He was great.

He added a lot to the weekend, too. It was fun. I mean, in all seriousness, it was one of the most joyous sort of just, I felt like I was cheating in life to use a Damasek expression that we were just getting away with something for three or four days. Well, you can't ask for anything more than that.

Let's do some news And this guy, Jim Glass, is a Oh, who is Jim Glass? I don't even know the hell that is. You know, I don't even want to dive into this. I mean, you said it on our podcast. I kind of became a bit, but now it's like I've got beef with this Jim Glass guy. And I'm a little worried if we go back there for the Super Bowl, you know,

what could happen between me and Jim Glass? Like, if we end up going there, whether he's going to be upset. Wow. this. Jim Glass is a listener. He is a listener. And the day after it aired on the podcast, he wasn't there at Huckapoo's the next day. Well, connect the doubts there. All right. Whoa. Let's start with news about the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl in 2023, Greg, which will be what? Super Bowl 54. I don't know. I can't do the math. I think Super Bowl 54 and 55. Anyway, so the Sports business journal Daniel Kaplan reports NFL plans to award the 2023 Super Bowl to glendell

Arizona and you may remember the Arizona site being the home of super bowl 49 in the famous malcolm butler interception so that was just a few years ago but they are already in the queue for another big game and the year after in 24 2024 finally at long last the super bowl will make a return to New Orleans, and it has not been there since Super Bowl 47, which was five years ago now. Ravens, 49ers. This will be 57 and 58. So my, my, those are the numbers. Yeah, it sounded low, but I didn't know how low. Yeah, that's too long in between Super Bowls for New Orleans and you let Arizona pass them, but I shouldn't, I guess I shouldn't be upset because the ultimate answer here is that New Orleans is getting another.

I think they should have one every three years or so, but this gives me another big goal. When I started at the NFL, my first goal was to make it to that Super Bowl. That was a couple of years into my, now my next goal, make it to 2024. Can we do it? Well, that's something to shoot for. Maybe they ended up because famously, the last Super Bowl in New Orleans had the power outage, which was unprecedented. And if you were at the game, as you and I were, it was.

My father went to his first Super Bowl. He was sitting next to Simone Sessler, Mark's wife. When the lights went off, I will never forget the fear that there was potentially a terrorist attack. That was scary as hell, I remember. And a lot of other people felt the same thing. It was not, thankfully. My guess is maybe a little 10-year penalty. Penalty.

And maybe. Bad job by energy. Energy. That's the power company. Yeah. Bad job. And I was thinking the same thing. Who is the most influential, powerful?

well-known owner in the NFL, maybe outside Robert Kraft. Jerry Jones. They had the Super Bowl in the 2010 season, did not go well. There were some issues, and now we're going to go on up to what? 15 years at least. I don't know if they're getting back to Dallas. They got the draft as maybe like, this is what you get now. But that to me is really telling that Jero World, which was the most celebrated new stadium ever in the NFL, got that game and not a peep about.

it since one other thought about the Super Bowl we no longer have the bidding process remember how fun that would be the Super Bowl committees there would always be Super Bowl committees you'd seem that when you go to the Super Bowl it would be for the next year petitioning or um trying to pump up their city getting it and then NFL coverage would have the conference room with all the with the whites the New Orleans people would be there with the red beans and rice out or something like that for the next year yeah right remember the whites it was a lot of yeah a lot of whites sometimes of excitement. It was a lot of celebration.

Yeah, I remember. They got rid of that. They changed the way they do. That was the one that stuck out to me was when Minnesota won it in what I thought at the time it sounded like an upset. It shouldn't have been because I guess every new stadium gets it. But Minnesota winning it over New Orleans and going crazy. Right.

And now basically the NFL targets a site city and then they have to hit, I guess, whatever benchmarks to make it happen and they go into a negotiation. So anyway, there you go. And Nashville, another report, expected to land the 2019 draft, which is interesting, Greg, because first of all, that's a home run. Maybe we've got to get back to the draft. And number two, they use that uniform release where they, you know, show they had a big stage set up in the downtown area, waited for the sun to go down to make it as dramatic as possible, and then revealed the new uniforms of the 2018 season. And they basically used that as their pitch for the draft because they got the whole city square filled with thousands of people

and it looked like a total party. And apparently that made a big impression with the NFL. Nashville expected to get the 2019 draft. I mean, Lakeisha, the Paramore and Chris have been enjoying this off season. This was this trip to Tybee was almost kind of the centerpiece of them having fun. But one of their trips was to Nashville. No one's ever been in Nashville and said they had a bad time. That's true.

I've never been. I've never been. This is one of those events. that they promise you go to Erica, right? And then they don't let you at the last minute. No, I actually got to go to Dallas. I did go to Dallas. She did.

But Nashville will be sweet if I'm still alive by then. Who knows? She was belly aching about not going to the Super Bowl. Oh, that was it. Right? No, you went to Super Bowl. It's when you were all going to go to Disney World. I mean Orlando for.

Orlando. So, yeah, like your first year at the NFL, you got to go to the Super Bowl, the draft and the Combine, but you're just bitching about the one thing you couldn't go to. Yep. That all checks out. We want you to make it to New Orleans 2024. What are you going to be doing in 2020?

Who knows? Come on. Might not even be alive by then. You're talking to the next Marty Scorsese. She does not want to be here in 2024. Moving on, the NFL will not discipline the Lions or their head coach, Matt Patricia, following that sexual assault accusation in Texas that stemmed from a 1996 case that involved Patricia and a fellow fraternity member. member. It resurfaced after, I think, what a Detroit News expose, which led to a uncomfortable

Matt Patricia press conference and the team publicly standing behind their new head coach. And now the league comes out and announced that the club, quote, engaged in appropriate and thorough hiring practices and that the coach did not mislead the team during the interview process, Brian McCarthy league spokesman said in a statement to NFL networks, Tom Pelliserra. So barring, Greg, any other news or any other type of events coming into focus here, it looks like the Lions will move on from this unfortunate situation. They will. And I think it remains to be seen how and if this will come up more.

Because, you know, the players haven't really met with the media. They're all going to be asked about it. And some players have. And a couple of them have had interesting answers. There's not just open mind, just saying that they're open-minded, they're not making any judgments one way or another, which is an interesting thing. This is a team meeting their head coach essentially for the first time,

and this is something that he had to do is get in front of them. Really, it might have been just about the first time that he had them all as a group and addressed this. It's a very uncomfortable to put it mildly way to get introduced to the team. But I think your read on it is right that the lions and the NFL are trying to say, that's it. And unless something else comes out, I don't know what more they're going to do. In other news, Greg, you had this.

Richie Incognito, I guess a few weeks back had tweeted to his agency, too. That's interesting, that he was done and he was firing them, which led to Lashon McCoy's Instagram post and then a bunch of reports that Incognito was through as a football player after a pretty successful but controversial career. Greg, you were never really buying it. And when the bills announced that they were formally releasing the guard that led to another kind of like, huh? And then Adam Schefter reported that incognito told the bills he wants to unretire per source,

which is why Buffalo released them from its reserve retired list. So both sides moving on. and Richie Incognito hopes to play somewhere else this year. And he will, Greg, because everyone needs offensive line help. And even at an advanced age, I think Incognito's 32 or 33 now, the man can ball on the interior line. His best years of his career were in Buffalo the last few years. And his whole retirement stuff always sounded strange

because it very much had to do with him trying to negotiate, you know, a raise or take as little of a pay cut as possible and that was going back and forth and that didn't work out. But in the end, you know, good guys, I guess, you know, good things happen to good guys because he'll probably end up making more money as a free agent. I have a feeling than he even was going to make with the bills. Wait, I don't know. Are you allowed to do this then? I guess Brett Fav did it. But you can just, even if you're under contract with the team, you can just be like, I'm retiring. And then the team has no choice but to release you. And then that ends the contract and he gets to sign somewhere else?

I think he did have a choice. That doesn't seem fair. They did have a choice. So what happened? And I should get it right. I'm going to talk about it. He reworked his contract with the bills, essentially taking a pay cut. And then he seemed to have immediate buyer's remorse about it, fired his agents over Twitter, tried to, like, get back to the negotiations.

A man of principle. Basically was just becoming a pain in the ass. And I think he just says he wanted, they just decided he wasn't worth the trouble. They couldn't give him any more money because they had already reworked his contract. It was literally against the rules to do another contract right after you just did it. And, you know, who knows what he's like behind the scenes or what? And they just decided forget it. Yeah, I mean, I get all that.

They're also a team that has maybe the worst offensive line in the league now because they've had all these defections and retirements and fake retirements. They certainly could use a guy like him with Josh Allen if he ends up playing this year. He said the stress was killing him. And he was absolutely not. Oh, his body. What about the body? changing his mind about retirement this was only a month ago what about the his kidneys were shutting down

like in all seriousness though like he floats that out there to justify his retirement and now he comes out of retirement should teams a little buyer beware this guy literally just told us there's some incident in the past i think you could have buyer beware about yeah you could say my kidneys might be failing after that weekend and tiby booze a little bit there's a lot do you booze long days yeah some long days got for you where you're drinking i saw wine early on that little merlo glass. There's a lot of wine, to be honest. Yeah.

Because I just felt like that's the way to kind of cruise, cruise through the day, at least for me. Did you get any peak West where, you know, West is just like completely out of control at the end of the night? No, no. Wes was in a great, in a great place. I have never seen, I don't think I've seen Wes laugh and crack. I mean, his friends and Tybee, they're all hilarious. That's his happy place.

It was my happy place. I mean, I'm not kidding. I had an unbelievable time. But yeah, it was his happy place. He was cracking up the whole way. We were randomly talking about Adam Sandler's career before the show. And Happy Gilmore Chubbs, his mentor tells Happy when he's trying to putt to go to his happy place. And then the happy place would have like Gene Simmons, his grandmother, a little person on a tricycle.

Wes's happy place would be all those things, but in the middle of Huckapoo's. Hey, Johnny Mansell, he's actually making a go with us. He's returning to pro football, the former Browns quarterback, signed a two-year contract with the Hamilton Tiger Cats of the CFL. That's the Canadian Football League. The team announced it. And the Tiger Cats, if you may recall, held Mansell's exclusive rights. They were always considered the best option back to football for the former first round pick. Mansell tweeted, made the decision today to sign my contract with the CFL and further my football career after a long break.

very grateful for everyone that's been supporting me along the way. I believe this is the best opportunity for me moving forward and I'm eager for what the future holds. And I have to say, Greg, my takeaway on this is, first of all, I have a bit of a Cessler we haven't seen the last of Johnny Mansell in this league. I just have a bit of a Cessler about it. And the only way it was ever going to happen was starting at this point. He was probably not going to get another job, even though his agent would float combine rumors every March that teams were interested. but now this shows teams that he's serious about this. He's going to Canada, and it is a popular league up there,

but it's not the NFL. It takes him away from friends and family. He says he's cleaned up his life. If he goes up there and balls, well, maybe he makes sense somewhere in the NFL a year from now or two years from now. I would predict against it. I would take the field. I don't expect him to succeed.

Like I don't necessarily... I bet he's going to rip it up. I have no idea. Doug Flutie style. I have no idea, to be clear. But I do know, I've seen former NFL go up to the CFL, and it doesn't mean you just are good.

It's a different game. It's a very competitive game. There's no, I wouldn't expect him to be the best quarterback on his team. Just based on kind of what we saw at the NFL level, there's a little bit of that D-League that he played in this soft season, that wasn't too impressive. Well, it was ridiculous. Whatever that was.

He is making half as much money as old former Ole Miss quarterback Jeremiah Masoli. So that tells me a lot. I always say, look to the money. Is that DJ? Is it move the sticks as like secret identity still trying to make a football career going? I don't know about how good Masoli is. He is the incumbent starter. He also received a signing bonus, which was as much as Johnny Mansell's entire salary.

Right. And I've watched the CFL before, and I've seen... Humble Bragg. It's a real league. Like, it's a real thing that's, it's a different sport, but it's very competitive and it's very difficult. And I guess from what I've seen, I kind of figure that the guys who have figured out how to play CFL quarterback are going to be very far ahead of Johnny Mansell. And if he wants to stick with it for a while and he, like, works his way up. But, like, to me, he's going to have to work his way up to being, to mattering in the CFL.

And then you'd have to work up. I get it. I get how. That's all. That's all I'm guessing. And I'm not insinuating that the CFL is like Pop Warner football or anything. I'm sure it's a high-level brand of football. Maybe the closest thing to the NFL that isn't the NFL.

We'll say, he's still just 25, hasn't played professional football in like three years. I guess I was making the point because I think people see that. And they're just assuming like, okay, Johnny Mansell is the starter. Johnny Mansell is the most famous player in the league. Like he's the highest paid player in league or whatever. It's like, no. It's all going to happen. He's going in as the backup.

There's been some NFL busts that have gone up there and have not done a lot. Get off his D, bro. I'm just saying. We didn't see much. That D-League game scared me. I get. Spring league. I get it.

Spring league. All right. A terrible, terrible tragedy last Friday, a 17-year-old high school student opened fire on his classmates at Santa Fe at Santa Fe high school outside Houston, killing 10. people injuring others and you know just the latest insanity involving gun violence and schools in our country it is a major major problem and it's terrible and it sucks and houston texans defensive end j jay watt who as you may recall uh raised what tens of millions of dollars or over 10 million dollars i wish i had the exact figure after uh the hurricane hit the houston area last year and ended up being the NFL man of the year because of it.

And it showed how Watt is a guy that he's more than just a football player. And he knows how to use his stature in professional sports for good. And he's doing it again here after this horrible tragedy in Texas. Watt told the school that he will personally cover the funeral expenses for the victims of the tragedy. And he tweeted about it, calling it absolutely horrific. and good for J.J. Watt. He's a real dude. $37 million he raised for people after Hurricane Harvey last fall.

Yeah, I wish he didn't have to be in the news for this. It is great. It is great what he's doing. It's such a depressing story that we're so used to. But you're right that it is good to see, like, athletes in J.J. Watt, in particular, in this case, like doing something, making something good out of terrible. And by the way, more deaths and school shootings in our country this year than our armed forces overseas.

Just let that sink in a little bit. In other news, a little bit of a trope alert. It's time to bring back the trope alert. Trooperate. Oh, it's back, Greg. Tropolat. Troopanat. I always found that voice now.

It's a little sexy. Yeah, a little bit of luring. A little bit alluring. What do you think, Erica? It's a nice voice. It goes on for a really long time, so just let me know when you want me to. Oh, yeah, you could pull it. You can pull it.

Okay, great, great. Running back, Dalvin Cook, who was really shaping up as a real hit for the Vikings as a rookie last year. He tore his ACL, Vikings coach Mike Zimmer told NFL networks Tom Pelliserro that Cook is making, quote, or is making great progress in his rehab from a torn ACL, quote, he's done really well. Zimmer said he's ahead of schedule. He's ahead of schedule, and we're excited about that. And in other trope alert news, Alan Robinson, according to his new head coach, Bear's head coach, Matt Neggie, said Robinson following his torn ACL he suffered last September.

He is, quote, ahead of the game. Greg, at some point in our timeline of how professional athletes, in particular football players, recover from ACLs. If everyone is always ahead of schedule, should we just adjust the schedule? So no one's ahead of schedule. Everyone's just on schedule. Maybe move up the schedule.

This is kind of becoming your thing lately because you envisioned an NFL where everyone was 8 and 8 essentially. Oh, that would be amazing. Great games. You wanted to adjust sort of the expectations. Maybe it's not a one-to-one comparison here. but what does ahead of schedule even mean at this point right what does anything mean as a a subsection of this trope then and i could do this almost have stories i want to do away

with but we'll do it i'll do it right now is the story he'll be ready for training camp so that's a subsection of every injury update basically at rhodor world is that they're expected for training camp and one thing i learned doing rhodo world is that no one thing i learned doing rhodo world is that no one calls out the coaches that actually only about 40% of the people that were expected to be ready for training camp and then being ready. No one cares. It's just you hear expect, he'll be ready for training camp all through May, June, July. You get back from your summer break and they're not ready, but no one really remembers what

anyone said a couple of months ago. Because it's just about, so there's no alarm bells being signaled or sent out at this time of year. Nobody wants any alarm bells unless they absolutely have to ring them. all right and uh i was thinking about that the eight and eight thing that i had i understand there's a certain level of frustration the idea that if everyone went eight and eight what's what matter nothing matters again it's like all right what if just a minor adjustment great every game is a god damn barn burner i mean you just wouldn't believe how competitive these football games are and uh but everyone either goes nine and seven or seven and nine okay but you can

also guarantee that they're barn burners every time. Yeah, so even the teams that finish seven and nine, their season is hanging in the balance in late December. Maybe a couple of bounces don't go your way. You miss the playoffs. But guess what? Next year, probably, or maybe you'll be on the other side of the ledger and you'll be playing playoff football for a Super Bowl.

There's not much that college football has over the NFL. In my mind, basically nothing. Sorry, college football. I know your traditions. Okay, the traditions and the game day experiences, I'll give you some love. college football but the one thing people always say is like every week matters in the you know college football it's like you know you can't first of all you can lose early in the season and all those

teams end up winning the title at the end anyways but they're like every every game matters like every game is like a playoff game because you can't lose more than once but if you basically know that every team is going to go nine and seven right or seven and nine and the end of these games when we've learned they're all barn burners now now every game really matters I mean that week one you know that could be the difference. I mean, the margin of error is just so razor thin. Just think about it, world. Finally, in the news, something that popped up last week,

but we'll touch on it real quick here. The Carolina Panthers will be sold, it appears. They've agreed to sell the team, they being Jerry Richardson, the team's founding owner, to Mr. David A. Tepper, a billionaire hedge fund owner. I don't know what a hedge fund is. I've heard hedge fund used in describing people for like 30 years, and I still have no idea what it is, but I assume it's lucrative.

The way for rich people to get richer by investing in things, you know, and essentially the hedge fund, you know, they... So you're hedging. No, I don't know where the word... Like when they say hedge your bets. I don't know where the word hedge comes from there, which shows my total ignorance and my totally... And don't even tweet us.

Don't tweet us because neither of us care. anyway a record setting amount at least 2.2 billion people are listening to this be like you know man they are dumber than i thought like i know they sometimes joke around like i know they asked us not to tweet but just like for their general knowledge it was like you know so the to yeah divert a little bit yeah just for a second so we had we had the two uh the two guys who made the podcast who were down for the weekend the fantasy land yeah old uh average hair and average hair. It was average hair and pretty hair.

Right. They have real names too. Corain, the Crane brothers. There you go. My point was like, so they're down here. They're these young guys. And I'm thinking like, oh, yeah, they're down here on a big trip. And they're staying at someone's house.

Like, it's cool that we allow these young guys who probably don't make any money or whatever, like hang out with cool, you know, cool guys. And I asked them, and of course they had, like, real important jobs and make far more money than either one of us. Like, one of them worked for the SEC. and I was like, oh, like the SEC West? And he's like, no, the Security Exchange Commission. Oh, boy. So they're doing okay.

Disaster. I don't know what my point was. Oh, it's just, you know, we're not smart. Anyway, so that 2.2 billion figure report from the New York Times confirmed by two people with knowledge of the deal. Anyway, the only thing left to do is the sale needs to be approved by at least three quarters of the NFL's owner. And that comes five months after Jerry Richardson said he would sell the team. after an investigation was started by the NFL into improper conduct by the owner. So that's it, Greg.

Well, we'll see if him arriving means changes. I think Ron Rivera referred to it at the Combine this year that he admitted to there's a little extra to feeling like when you don't have a boss, they didn't know who their boss was going to be. He knows Jerry Richardson very well. That's the man who hired him. that this season, whoever the new boss is going to be, that everyone's going to be feeling a little bit like they're in tryout mode. Right.

And I was really interested to hear Ron Rivera say that, who's made the playoffs five years out of six. But it's human nature. And he just said the whole organization is going to be feeling that way. Right. I mean, in our own company, we've had like 47 top bosses. Right.

At this point, I'm kind of figuring I have better job security than all the bosses because there's been like seven of them. But again, the common thread here, those people also have a lot more money than you. Yeah. If you stay at a certain level below, you stay out of the state of it.

That's true. There's something to be said about not being wealthy. That's what's happening in the news. All right. Here we go. It's mid-May. It's almost late May now. But right on that bubble, Greg.

May 21st. Is it late May? Is it early May? Is it mid-May? Who gives it? Who cares? But it's a time in the NFL calendar where, like if you go to our NFL.com newsstander,

which is just the headlines, you're going to have an offensive lineman, a draft pick being predicted by his own coach that he could be a pro bowler or Bobby Wagner saying, don't sleep on the Seahawks defense. Not a lot of hard news out there right now. And a lot of...

You weren't fascinated by the Willie Roth, colon. Frank Ragnow is a future pro bowler article that was up. Not hugely. Not hugely interested in it. Anyway, so the point is, there's not a lot of news out there right now so what happens is the same storylines kind of get brought up over and over again

so this is our our opportunity to kind of rebel against those storylines so let's send some storylines into the cornfields we'll make them disappear last year we did this segment Connor Orr was sitting in the studio on the same day by the way because I listened to last year's show just as

just because I'm a pro and it just shows the amount of work I put into this any comments I just raised my eyebrows. That's what I normally. Usually these guys would react in or something. Connor was sitting in the studio so did the show with us. He also did an NFL network hit in which he predicted the Browns would go to the playoffs last year.

Shout out to Connor. And he predicted last year or his the storyline he wanted to make disappear. Adrian Peterson. Oh, he's going to be a star in New Orleans. Nicely done. Connor. Wes wanted to make the Colin Kaepernick is getting as being blackballed narrative disappear

which is still in play one year later. It's very much in play. It's being debated in court right now. The old Zeuser wanted the storyline that the bears were telling us that Mike Glennon was still someone they believed in. He wanted that to disappear. I think that was that turned out to be total BS of course. As Glennon lasted I think three starts in Chicago. And Greg, you

wanted to make any contract holdout or extension talks or anything like that you make them go away which is probably one that's going to ever game none of it matters until training camp yeah and mark famously wanted all storylines connected to the nfc to just disappear forever he just was not high on the nfc as a conference and sure enough that conference produced the super bowl champion so maybe a little egg on mark's face there kind of an ingenious mark's always looking for you know different ways to get things off his plate. That gets like 16 teams just gone right there. So let's, Greg, let's make some storylines disappear.

Do you want to start or what? All right. I'm going to start with, I have a few. But I'm going to make one that's like the simplest and the dumbest. I don't want to hear about any more DAC-friendly offense in Dallas. For some reason, every year, certain cities get a storyline or a storyline or a phrase that to just like once two local reporters write about it the other 70 in this case in Dallas feel like they have to write about it every day and every every practice every conversation

every interview everything is all about well what are they doing to make the the offense more deck friendly right that's it which is the insinuation that the offense was unfriendly like is it isn't that isn't the coach and scott linahan their offensive coordinator kind of said as much that he was annoyed with this whole idea it's like what do you you think we were doing last year? You know, what were we trying to do? You know, he's a great player. We're going to try to make them the best, but it's all about it. And there's something demeaning about it to DAC, who I still have a lot of faith in. It's like, well, let's engineer some sort of DAC friendly offense. And I can just feel like after the locals are done with

hammering this story into the ground for the next two months, then the national people come in. You know, then we got, you know, we're on live during training camp. The national guys start doing it in August. So you redo it all over. Yeah. And I think it, all connects to the underlying factor that Prescott was not very good last year. That's fair. It wasn't great. And the, I guess you're trying to connect the dots. How could that have happened?

And there's a lot of reasons and a lot of it had to do with Ezekiel Elliott and also Dallas not having that same dominance, especially with time of possession and having everything working in their favor during his rookie year. But he had 13 interceptions. He lost three fumbles. He had 16 turnovers last year. He missed guys regularly. open receivers he was not he was not the same guy and he also not for nothing there's the reason

dac press or there's the reason des brines not there anymore because he had a number one receiver that probably really wasn't a number one receiver anymore yet jason witten there's a reason jason witten's in a broadcast booth now because he wasn't really a number one tight end anymore so i was a little surprised that the cowboys are going with the wide receiver number one wide receiver by committee route this season instead of being aggressive if you really wanted to be more friendly don't have, you know, Alan Hearns and Cole Beasley and Terrence Williams be your top three receivers. Terrence Williams, you just got arrested, by the way, too. It's just the phrase.

No more DAC friendly. Those two words in a row, it's done. Okay. I, Greg, you know that I really want the Patriots to crumble from within. You know that. Erica, behind the glass, you know that as well. Yeah, all too well. I think, as I said last year,

Darnold maybe changes the equation, but last year you were more into the Patriots than the Jets. They controlled your emotions more. Right. I was emotionally, although I was as big a Jets fan as I always am, but I was a little emotionally disconnected from the Jets as being a competitive entity.

So I had to turn that passion somewhere, Greg. Anyway, but all this drama involving Belichick and Malcolm Butler and Brady and Gronk, You know it's been catnip for me. I've really enjoyed it, especially as a sad Jets fan. And I've talked about it a lot since the Super Bowl. Basically, anytime we have a segment, that's probably usually about the Patriots.

Yeah, or a show. Or if we're just getting lunch at the huddle. It's great fun. I've enjoyed it. It's been, what is it, Schadenfreude? Schadenfreude. Shaden Freud, yeah. Deutschland.

But it's time to take the foot off the accelerator for two reasons. Number one, Brady and Gronk, they're going to be on the field in week one. So any of this talk about, oh, is Tom going to be at OTAs? Is it going to be at minicamp? Is Gronk? No, Gronk's going to get some money and he's going to be fun. So those guys are going to be back. And as long as those guys are back, they are not in real peril.

And two, and this is the most important thing to me. There's no reason to help the Patriots build up the narrative, the war cry that everyone said they were done. And let me make this clear. The Patriots are not done. they're not they'll probably have like 10 wins by thanksgiving i'd be very surprised if they weren't a final four team come in january oh now i see what you're doing this is shameless no it's not the patriots i'm being completely honest with you as of someone that's followed the game during the entire brady run the patriots are not done and why give the motivation or the source

material behind belichick's next cheesy uh slogan you know no more sleep or whatever it is And so let's lose those storylines of the Patriots in trouble because ultimately they're not. And the only thing more annoying than another 14 and two season in a Super Bowl appearance is Robert Kraft standing on some riser with Terry Bradshaw sticking a microphone in his face. And Kraft being like, well, I guess they said we couldn't do it. But New England, we did.

It's like, oh, enough. Just take your 14 and 2 and be happy. What do you think about that? Tim Posey. I have a lot of thoughts about that, actually. But I think you're on the right. I like what you're saying. I agree with it.

I think you're trying to do some sort of mental some voodoo. Some voodoo gymnastics here. But I'm not going to fall for it. Patriots wouldn't fall for it because they're going to use all these slights. They've got Chris Wesleyan on tape saying. I know.

That's what I'm saying. Everyone's going to shut up. Everyone be quiet. No one's going to pick them going into the season. And it's funny, I remember being in this very studio last year. And I always said, like, the years where everyone agrees, the Patriots, that's their year. That's almost never the year they actually win it. That was what I was saying last year going into it.

Because last year at this time, everyone thought they were just going to kill. And they were great. It's not like they were close. It was 16 and 3 and almost won the Super Bowl. Had a sour ending, though. Had a sour ending. But this time I can smell it. Some people are going to pick the Steelers.

Some will pick the Jags. You know, some will sprinkle in. You guys make the Chargers. And I'll be like. And I like this. All right. So, no, my point is, though, I'm not, no voodoo. Just there's no, don't waste your time.

Because everything's, come November, it'll be Thanksgiving. There'll be 10 and 1. And it'll be like, oh, okay. That was, that was going to be one of mine. Get this, get this off-field Patriots stories out of here. All right, you're up. I'm sick of them. I just want to kill all organized team activity and mini-camp evaluations.

Period. I don't want to hear an opinion on anything that happened on the field for the next month. So that is very specific. We're speaking on May 21st Monday for most teams, a lot of teams. This is the first week. It's called Phase 3 of OTAs where you're on the field and you're actually kind of playing football. I don't want to hear anyone say that he look good. He's making a move.

He looks great. It has so little to do with football. I know people have kind of made this point, but it really is true. and people forget it. Like, they're not tackling. They're in shorts. It's just this sort of practice session. I mean, it's a learning.

It's like going to the classroom. That's how Belichick says. It's all about classroom and teaching. And there's such a concentration on this sport year round that people, it's going to be, there's going to be sleepers and bus and risers and fallers for fantasy based on what happens the next month. And none of it matters. You got to wait until training camp.

So you get rid of all your evaluations. And I'm watching you. I like it. I'm totally on board with that. And it did remind me of when the reporter asked Jets coach Todd Bowles about Sam Darnold's first ever practice, and this is his response. He was great. I want to play right now.

That was Bowles' unknown before that moment's sense of humor saying like, everybody, relax. There's nothing to take away at this point. And whatever you take away, you just, you don't know what any of it's going to mean. The running game and the offensive line, the defensive line, Forget it. You know someone's a phony if they're giving hot takes about those positions. But even the passers and everything, you don't know who, the same players that sometimes

look good in these shorts won't look very good in August. Oh, the players always look good in their shorts, though, right? I mean, not all of them, no. Oh, I mean. Okay. Anyway, my, uh, it was weird. I'm just saying, you know, you're making it sound like every one of these guys is like. I guess Richie Incognito as an example.

I'm pointing it. There's a... Probably not looking, like, super hot. It's a few... In a pair of shorts. There's a few monster. It's the regular... It's like the normal population.

You're going to have a few crab apples. Crab apples. A lot of nice calves. That's what I'm saying. Finally, I would like to... This one really was on my radar last night while I was watching another sport. So any general story lines pretending the NFL's demise.

And... all you media pundits out there, you all grade the NFL on a curve, and it's never one that benefits what's the country's most popular sport. And what would happen if the NFL rolled out blowouts throughout January at the frequency we're seeing in the NBA this month? Just unwatchable games in the NBA playoffs. This NBA that's great, held as like this. modern paragon for what a professional sports league should be in the 21st century.

And meanwhile, we're having games in the NBA that are just out of control. This being via the Washington Post over the 15 conference final games played last season and this season in the NBA. Seven were decided by at least 20 points. Five of them were at least 30 point blowouts and two margins of victory. Top 40 points, including that absurd Rockets Warriors game on Sunday. only two games were decided by single digits. The average margin of victory in those 15 games has been 20.9 points. And it's like, oh, well, you know, in the conference, respective conferences,

sometimes mismatches happen. Well, you go to the NBA finals, that's been bad too. Three of the five games between the Warriors and Cavs last year were decided by at least 19 points. Average margin of victory, 15.2. The ratings are great in the NBA. They were just as good or, if not better than ever. And what's helped the NBA is that no. one in the media is going nuts every time something critical or negative is happening in that

league. What about the tanking in the NBA? Can you imagine? I know the scam for Sam and all that stuff like, but that was mostly ingest by everyone because NFL, the way these coaches are hardwired is to win games. That's why you see teams blow it in week 16 and week 17 every year. And that's why you see starting quarterback stay in the lineup and guys play to the end of the year. Typically in the NBA, these rosters, you check out the Knicks. by the end of the season, unrecognizable. And they got the ninth pick.

The NBA heat. They got the ninth pick, the Knicks, and they tanked for three months. What do you think that says about all the teams that finished behind them? Anyway, my point is, what if that happened in the NFL?

There would be, Dan Shaughnessy would jump off the green monster if the NFL was having these type of issues. And I just want everybody to calm down. I know the NFL is not a perfect animal. I know there are issues, there are concerns about the health issues with the game.

They don't get everything right, not by a long shot. But everybody should get the similar treatment. If you're going to hold the NFL up to such a strict standard in the media, the other leagues, including the NBA, should get the same thing. Yeah. I mean, it reminds me there was a few years ago when we kept having blowouts in the playoffs and people went nuts in terms of the NFL. And people went nuts.

And I think with the NBA, obviously, it's in a great place. And it's just kind of cyclical, you know, in terms of these. blowouts, although it does seem like maybe teams are kind of punching it in a little bit when they're on the road. If it's, they're all, it's always the road. 28 to 7 in the first quarter and it's like, let's live to get back to our home court. But to your point, as great as those ratings are, it's not like they, you know, sniff a regular season Thursday night NFL game.

And that's fine. Like, I don't know why it's become such a focus. People are so obsessed with ratings and like what's up and what's down. Hey, news flash, basketball, football, baseball. football too. They're all making, they're all printing money right now. They're all doing great. Like they really are. I mean, look at the, the Panthers are the, what, 27th market in the NFL? And they just sold for $2.2 billion. So every one of these owners that own, you know, they know they're holding a ticket for whatever they bought their team, it's doubled in the last five years practically. I mean, if

the Panthers are going for $2.4 billion and the bills were 1.6 just a couple of years ago, it's like all of these teams and baseball include like even baseball which gets made fun of in basketball it's like all these teams are making money they're all making deals Thursday night football sold to fox for more than the previous Thursday night football I mean how many I'm not feeling bad for any of them how many overall think pieces have been written about Thursday night football the quality of the games and all that like I don't I'm with you I like that all right that's it um there you go those are some storylines we want to make disappear but they won't disappear Greg and that's the most annoying part well you know who i'm glad is not going to disappear our next guess all right let's

welcome them are they staying behind the glass or are they as there's one coming in or we're behind the glass kind of people yeah you know how am i only finding out now that we have two operational headsets behind the glass this is interesting anyway i'll introduce you so of course you already heard her the loose cannon erika tamposi and uh her co-conspirator she is Emma Sowerwin? Sour. Not quite. Sour wine.

Bad job by me. Sour wine. Just Emma VP, more popularly known as she is the producer of the Dave Dameshick football program. But these two women have launched a popular vlog. Yeah, you know. We call it a vlog, I guess. You could call it a lot, actually. It's called the broadcast.

That's right. Get a plug in. What's the broadcast? Well, the broadcast is the next big thing, Dan. And we'll tell you why. Flogs are huge. Well, first of all, we have a bunch of videos.

Yes. So we have a lot of videos. And we also just like to do stupid stuff and put it on social media. And it gets a lot of hits, which is great. Views. Views, yeah. Little industry lingo. Yep.

Retweets. Eyeballs. Get a lot of, like, dudes saying, you're cute and funny. you know right which is which is upsetting cool it's cool but also also upsetting offensive but yeah we'll take it i would take that we don't get that a lot on our side of glass right right it's like oh i get it i've been getting it lately the whole cute boy thing's been taking off yeah that's true it's got some heat so that's cool um yeah if me emma and actually our our friend colin have sort of joined together the tiny box the tiny box well i you've been

doing this broadcast for a long time yes you're going back deep into last season. Yes. But Colleen's, you know, now you're considering her part. She's part of the broadcast. She's officially. She aware? She's a pickup.

She's very aware. She actually called us probably a few months ago and was like, I want in. You guys are doing great. So we're like, all right. It's funny. It sounds to me more like a network executive was kind of like we need a little more star power. Can we get colleague?

And then there's a lot of drama behind the seams between Emma VP and Colleen because it used to kind of be. the star emma vp's you know shining she's a shining star now now colin exactly you might be on to something and it's funny Connie also a similar route was her path to get onto our podcast so right uh maybe she should start something i think she's uh she's more of a follower that's for sure no she's she's very she's test the waters first like is that going well oh it is now i'll join yeah no she's Colleen was it it's a try good morning football Saturday edition think about it She's not dumb.

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You will. And go to the movies. What's the dream? Are you at your peak? Probably. Yeah, come on, I'm all like, yeah. Wow. So it actually, the broadcast is generating clicks, views, good content.

A lot of celebrities pop in. Celebrities, but it seems like already, it seems like there might be a little bit of heat in terms of the creative forces, budding heads a little bit, with the direction of the show? No. Not at all. No, I think we're all on the same page. It's very different, you know, dynamic. Like, Colleen, like, we all went out Saturday night. Like, Colleen's, like, the fun married.

like Emma's sort of like, you know, keeps us all, the not fun about to be married one. And I'm the one that everyone has to like rain in, you know. So then that's. I feel like that dynamic comes through on the broadcast. Oh, it does. Definitely does. But yeah, it's officially going to be a podcast.

So it's got the exclusive. So it's not a vlog. Well, we'll continue to be a video entity because that's how it started. Yeah, yeah. We're a bit of a conglomerate. We'll see how that dynamic is going 650 shows in. Exactly. Right.

It's a long road. Right. I mean, look at Damashik. you know better than anyone, MVP. Shack just cycles through talent around him because, you know, at some point he tires of them or they get tired of Shack. Why do you think Mark got into his contract

12 weeks of paid vacation just because he can't stand to be around? That makes complete sense. Yeah, we'll have to think about that going forward. So we wish you the best of luck because you're off to a great start. It's a long road ahead, but we're excited. And how do you get to check out the broadcast?

You can go to the broadcast. that's in real life on Instagram. And we have, you know, like 360 followers. And we haven't really done anything yet, which is pretty cool. And then that's the same Twitter handle as well. All right. Make sure you check that out. And that good cameo there.

Yeah, that was awesome. Thanks, guys. I think that was like our first plug ever, just like someone was coming in and plug it. Except since Tony Romo and Direc TV. Right. We have been trying to quietly recruit M of VP for years to be our producer. It's very quiet. but it never has never worked out so if this is the closest we can get we'll take it yeah for sure i mean

i can go out sick on wednesday if you need it can have emma do it sheck won't allow it i'll be the third man up yeah all right that's it good job ladies thank you that okay in post me too ladies cute and funny yes they are cute and funny fellows and also funny but look out one of them has a ring Not married yet This is Dan Hansa signing off For the old boss The Loose Cannon M of P behind the glass

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