NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Marriage Prospects for NFL Couples

Episode Date: May 10, 2019

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler bring you all the latest news around the NFL including the seahawks parting ways with Doug Baldwin (6:14) but adding Ziggy Ansah (10:32). In the fish tank we learn that Xavien Howard is expected to sign a 5-year, $76.5 million dollar extension (17:25). With Wess and Lakisha's wedding right around the corner, the heroes take a look at marriage prospects for NFL couples (30:15) and are joined by a special guest to close out the show. (49:51).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. It is indeed wedding season. You don't usually see those words sharing real estate together. No, you don't. Oh, yeah, it's wedding season, motherfuckers. Get ready. Oh, it's so much work for Erica right out of the gate. Is it necessary? Just like you and your bros, let's get that.

together for a raucous wedding season. There was a movie about that once. Welcome to the Friday edition of the Around the NFL podcast. Yes, we're all excited. Chris Westing is getting married a week from Sunday. And he's not sleeping right now. And he says there's other reasons why. But he's allowed, West, you're allowed to say, yeah, I got some butterfly, some nervous energy in my system.

That could be contributing to some sleepless nights, maybe a little bit. Honestly, this is one of the benefits of getting married at an older point in my life that I don't really have butterflies. I know I'm marrying the right person. I know I'm marrying her for the right reason. So I'm not nervous about that. And we're going to have a very special guest. Plus he lived together for like two years. Right.

And we went through cancer together. So, I mean, it's all good points. We'll have a very special guest at the end of the show, someone who's prominently connected. To the wedding. Oh. That's all I'll say. The mayor of Tybee? I'll say.

That's definitely not David. It's definitely not David Ely. Oh, that's not necessary. You can cross him off the list. That's not necessary. Dave. Dave Ely was so far outside the possibility of being invited that we even forgot about the bit. It just.

About being in the wedding party. That's not accurate. If we didn't have like a strict limit on the capacity of the hall, we could invite a lot more. And he would have been on that. I haven't forgotten about it. I've been living off those winnings when you were talking them up as a best man. When I put it down plus 300, he's not even getting invited to the wedding. I've been coasting off those.

The wedding is on Sunday, and Ely is making Lakeisha fly back on Monday morning at 4 a.m. 2 or her news shift. So I don't think she, that he does deserve to be more. I guess he got even. That's a little petty, but he did what he did. And he, you know, man by it, I'm sure. Coming up on today's show, speaking of weddings, marriages in the NFL, marriage prospects. for NFL couples.

We'll go through the league and talk about some unions and whether they're built to last or in deep trouble. We'll do some news. But before that, one other quick bit of housekeeping circling back to Monday show,

Greg, of course, it comes up on the show, the Delaware tapes, and we said, hey, what if we did some type of, you know, crowdfunding to get that tape

on our show? You declined it, as is you're right. But then someone on Twitter hit me up, this guy, Jean Sebastian, and wrote, regarding that Delaware tape, could we give money to a charity organization selected by Greg in exchange for the release of the tape? So how about something that doesn't line your pockets but helps a good cause, like, say, cancer research or whatever? Greg, your thoughts? I mean you're putting me in a tough spot here I'll think about it

I don't know I'd rather raise it for some other reason I mean why don't we just raise it then if we're doing it out of the goodness of our hearts Not cancer's not good enough for you No I mean cancer could be it I'm just saying It has nothing to do with the tapes You know you want to do this

You want to be a good person Don't expect something in return Just do it Yeah but we want the tapes though I mean it's just something to think about Okay great Something to think about How big

I'm so hungry We need you help We need this Come on, Greg We are in the future Will you be my dad So these are your kids Prettending to have cancer

I can't trust you Thanks, Dad We must listen to Delaware Do it for us. We need your help, Greg. Okay. We love Delaware. We really need to get into Delaware.

It's up to you. That really tugs at the old heartstrings. Yeah, it does. I feel bad for all the... Those are kids that need. Right, all the kids who actually have cancer out there. What is this cancer thing? There's no cancer.

They're just kids that need help. Enough with the cancer straw man. This is about the taste. I didn't know Jack was such a fan Jack I don't know what you're talking about now I simply brought up the cancer as one noble cause but there's so many different causes there's children that need your help as you just heard just something it's something to think about it it takes a lot to crack my ice cold heart but those kids may noted when would there be a fair time to circle back on this because we really do want to be fair to you because it's you know tapping into it Maybe end of the show? 20 minutes? End of news? Yeah, let's let it ride out.

Maybe everyone will just forget about it. I love that you're clearly uncomfortable over this. I mean, how would you even transfer the tape? Who don't even know us? We got to even. I like that. We're getting into technical questions. I would have to think about it.

I have to even assume I haven't, but I think I do somewhere. All right. That's progress in itself right there. Let's do some news. I like toys. I like toys. The Seattle Seahawks. It's the end of an era.

The team announced Thursday. They are terminating the contracts of both Doug Baldwin, their top wide receiver and Cam Chancellor, the standout safety. This comes after word had leaked out about Doug Baldwin potentially looking to retire. He's undergone three surgeries since the end of the 2018 season, and the latest one of sports hernia operation that was going to sideline him up to two months.

And with Chancellor, it was a neck injury that he didn't play last year. So neither of these is necessarily a surprise, but it is now official that Seattle's moving on. And Greg, both of these guys were central figures and the greatest era of Seahawk history. There's no doubt about it. And the Baldwin news, you know, stands out,

even though we didn't know for, you know, we knew that there was a chance that he was retiring to see the finality of this, that they're releasing him. And I think the reason is financially he can actually collect, you know, more on insurance. And there's kind of reasons to why they're not keeping him on the roster that it's over is one of the biggest stories of the off season to me. He's 30 years old.

I mean, Chancellor, it's just a paperwork thing. We've known he's gone for a while. But Baldwin, he was still their best receiver when he played and when he was finally kind of healthy last year. and to lose him in an offense that already struggled to have consistent receiving talent. Tyler Lockett was great last year, but that's the first season he's ever really stayed healthy and consistent like that throughout the whole season. And then after that...

So they're number one guy now. It's just a bunch of question mark. So losing Baldwin, to me, really hurts a team that was in the playoffs a year ago. I think he's the best slot receiver of the past five years. Over Larry Fitzgerald, over Julian Edelman, over Golden Tate, over Jarvis Landry. I think Doug Baldwin's the choice. And he and Cam Chancellor are both also indicative, I think, of that Seahawks, that group, their extraordinary pride, mental toughness, accountability to each other,

and the front office's ability to find talent everywhere. There was a period where they were on this show. I remember we might have even done a midweek sort of surprise show because the Seahawks were resigning, you know, Richard Sherman, re-signing Earl Thomas and resigning all the draft of talent that they had built in-house. And now it's all gone. And you look at the fact that KJ. Wright, with the departure of Doug Baldwin, is now their longest-tenured Seahawk on the team.

Wow. And this is a team that last year led the league in rushing, not a huge shock under Brian Schottenheimer, but they're a great candidate. I don't know, great's not the right word, but a strong candidate to do it again because you're right. There's just not a lot left. I think they went into the draft, obviously, knowing this was a clear option.

That's why you get D.K. Metcalfe. I like David Moore, but there is a lot of question marks, like you said. Well, Baldwin's one of those guys that, you know, kids being born right now into Seahawks families who, you know, are going to look back at his numbers and probably not. The kids are on your mind, Greg. I'm just saying, yes, they're not going to understand what Baldwin meant kind of to they. They'll have their parent because the Seahawks fans, you know, if they love anything, they love to talk about the Seahawks.

And to me, Baldwin is a great Seahawks. Like he, someone I read a fan that made the case, he's the second best see-ac receiver of all time. And his stats just sort of don't do him justice. And he was a guy that if you did, and this was on Twitter, I think Danny Kelly sent it out. Like a lot of teams would try zero coverage against them, believing that none of their receivers could really beat one-on-one. And Baldwin would always beat him deep. I mean, he made a lot of plays down the field for a guy that was known as a slot guy. Rapsheet reported that Thursday's release is, quote, likely the end of the road for Baldwin solely due to the health

issues. So I guess it's not completely impossible that he pops up again. He's not an old guy. I think he's 30 years old. Yeah. Maybe he's feeling a lot better next year. Who knows? But as of right now, it looks like he will not be in the picture in the NFL in 2019 and maybe for good.

That is not the only big Seahawks news. However, they added a player this week. Ziggy Ansah who's founded out a new home in Seattle. He was one of those semi-prominent free agents that had not signed a deal and now that

compensatory pick window is closed. He makes the deal with the Seahawks. A base value of $9 million could reach up to $12.75 million with incentives. Rap sheet reported, $6 million in guarantees. So, you know, good money for a deal that you're signing almost in the middle of May.

For Ziggy Ansah, he's been beset by health issues during his career spent with the Lions, but he's also a guy, Mark, where it has a history of an ability to get to the quarterback and make plays when healthy and Seattle's hoping to get that version of Anza. Yeah, Dan, we were talking the other day that we are

of the group that believes he might secretly be 47 years old because it's undetermined how old he actually is. We just don't know. He entered the league with gray in his hair to some degree. Back in the day, when the draft was in New York, and it's

a damn shame that Dolan ruin that. I think I've shared my feelings on that. It's worked out, though, I think. Nice. It has, but I have personal reasons why I wish it should stay in New York. Anyway, but part of it was, and we would use to travel to the draft and cover all the hoopla before, Mark and I a couple times went down to this park down to lower Manhattan where the rookies would be playing with, Greg, the kids. Children.

Play 60. Play 60 event. Yeah, they should be outside, not listening to old, lousy tapes of mid-90s wannabies. You can listen outside. And Ziggiazza was there And he looked like an older man then And he was an incoming rookie class But it fills a neat

I thought he was maybe going to go to the Ravens Because they were zoning in But Seattle And the bills too So that was good money And Seattle came in and snatched them That's good money And it's one of the reasons

Why the Frank Clark trade You know Helped them out They're eating a lot of money With Doug Baldwin and Chancellor By the way $16 million on the cap For those two guys

But you still saved a little bit By cutting Baldwin And you saved a lot by not keeping Clark on the team. And if you get 500 snaps from Ziggyanza, then you're happy. That's the max. I mean, he hasn't played more than 550, I believe, since 2014, 2015. So even if he is fully healthy, I'm sure they're only going to play him 30, 40 snaps a game. But he's a good, I mean, he's their best defensive end now.

I wouldn't want to be on a, I wouldn't want my team to have Ziggy Onza as my top guy with nothing, very little. No, but for this price, it's still great for them because they didn't have it. anything else other other other other options uh he's turning 30 later this month he had 14 and half sacks um in the 2015 season last year he just played seven games two sacks so yes he hasn't been able to stay healthy but it is there's some potential big upside there for the seahawks moving on the jaguars they have an issue uh because jackson their linebacker telvin smith uh took to his instagram page uh Thursday dropped a bombshell announced he's stepping away from football for the 2019 season.

And the message sent out to his followers, he wrote, it was said to me from a great coach that in order for the man to be his best, he must get his world in order. At this time, I must take time away from the game and get my world in order. I must give this time back to myself, my family, and my health.

I appreciate all the sport. I will and will not get. I just ask y'all respect my decision to not play football this season. That is a bombshell for a team because Smith is a big part of their day. It's not just their leading tackler. Bobby Wagner, Luke Keakley, and Levante David are the only players in the NFL with more tackles over the last five years. Sort of reminds me of Jason Worlds, Steelers linebacker, who walked away from a big payday a few years ago.

Yeah. Anthony Davis, the 49ers right tackle, who applied for reinstatement recently after sitting out a few years. You see more of this now where players are willing to walk away to address whatever is going on with their lives instead of playing football for a while. And this one's a mystery. The Jaguar said on Friday at their rookie minicamp that they learned about Talvin Smith walking away

as the rest of the public did when he posted on Instagram. And they have not really heard from him according to reports all offseason about what is his issue. Some people thought it was his contract. He hasn't been really in touch with the team. So it's a mystery. You worry about what it could be.

I don't know. It's an open story to me. Yes, he says he's sitting out this season, but it feels like it's not the last we're going to hear of this story. The thing I found odd was, I mean, it's one thing. Who knows what the issue is? But that he was unreachable. They tried to multiple people from the team while you're under contract

and you're part of the major plans of the defense heading to the season, that they've tried multiple times to reach you. and you're unreachable. That tells me it has to do with him, potentially more than someone in his orbit, but we don't know. To me, you look at him, his 2017 season was dominant,

and he was a huge part of that deference. I remember being in London to watch the Jags-Bills game, and, well, it was an assignment, so I guess it's something of a brag. But when you're watching these games in person, we've all seen this. You see stuff that you just wouldn't see otherwise. His speed, man, that guy.

And there's a reason that he had the pick-sixes that he had and the interceptions because he used that speed very well. They're going to miss them. I realize this, and I should know, going through the projected starters series on NFL.com this week, NFL.com slash projected starters. How about that? Nice.

Just like how loaded this Jaguar's defense still is. I mean, this is when I was still penciling them in to insert Josh Allen there across from Ngakwe and the guys that they have coming off the bench on that team that are so good. And to lose Telvin Smith, who was such a big part of that. And now they have no one to replace them.

I think they'll probably sign a veteran. But right now it's probably Quincy Williams. Quinn and Williams' brother, who was taken late in the third round. And according to Daniel Jeremiah and our NFL network crew, was about the most surprising pick that was made in the first three days of the draft by far. They were shocked. That almost every outlet thought he was an undrafted type of player that was not heavily scouted. The Jaguar saw something special in him, took him in the third round,

and he is absolutely the guy who is supposed to be behind Telvin Smith who was in a contract year because they have a similar skill set and so asking that guy to start, I don't know, might be a little much. I wonder if the jets have been looking to unload Darren Lee for a while now.

I wonder if that could be a potential match a player that has potential former first round pick. Because Miles Jack who's in the middle for the Jaguars can certainly play on the outside and you move Lee into the middle. Darren Lee is not Telvin Smith, but if you have to make some sense. Let's move on the Dolphins.

Oh, let's jump. into the organic fish tank. The Dolphins have locked up a fourth-year corner, Xavier and Howard to a five-year $76.5 million contract, $46 million guarantee. Rap sheet reported this week. Howard, a second team all pro.

Last season, he's the highest paid player at his position. The Dolphins have been busy this offseason. They traded Ryan Tannihill and Robert Quinn released Erica's boy, Danny Amandola, guard Josh Sitten, defensive and Andre Branch. You know, that prompted people to say,

oh, this team is looking to be as terrible as possible this season and build for the future. But they view Howard as a part of that future, obviously. I think it was great timing for him. It feels like a move that ownership, and I'm sure the front office who's been around when he was drafted, like would push a little harder this offseason almost as a sign to our fans. Like, well, we're not giving up totally.

we want to have good young players. Zavian Howard is the example of the type of player that we want to build around. Let's go make him the highest paid cornerback in the league. And like that there was a real rush to do that because he was entering a contract where he was only making $1 million this year. Yeah, it looks like he'll be the Stefan Gilmore

and Brian Flores' defense. I thought Zavian Howard was a legitimate pro bowler last year. Yeah. He's stingy and he has good ball skills. I mean, you can wait until free agency and play a guy like Tremaine Johnson, 35, 36 million guaranteed or whatever Johnson got, or you could

have a guy that you know that's in house like Howard. Yeah, and like when you read in this so-called rebuild slash organic tank act that they're involved in, which I think it gives if you're a fan that's willing to look at things from a different angle, like you have to kind of like what they're doing for the first

time in a while. You don't need to torch everyone. Like you shouldn't just be letting go of young talent. This is a guy you could build around and they believe that for the next four or five years. And I think unused cap space is a sneaky mistake that a lot of teams have been making lately, that they leave too much cap space carrying over from one year to the next because you can't use it. You don't really need it.

And at some point, it's kind of a resource you're not using. So if this is a good way to spend it right now, spend it. Meanwhile, on the throne of slees, the Patriots have solved all their tight-end problems. Benjamin Watson is coming out of retirement to sign a deal in New England. Rap Sheep reported the 38-year-old spent the 2018 season. with the Saints. On a one-year deal, he announced his retirement

in late December, but has changed his mind. The Patriots originally selected Watson as a first-round pick in 2004, played six seasons with the Pats, bounced around, the Browns, the Saints, the Ravens. Now, back to the Pats

who also have Austin Safarian Jenkins in-house as they look to move from the Rob Grunkowski era. This has to be the oldest quarterback to tight-end connection in NFL. Yeah. Well, replacing Breeze to Watson last year, I guess. Right.

Yeah. It's a nice... 42 to 38. Math. Forty-old. I mean, if Antonio Gates hangs on for five more years, maybe Rivers will have a chance. I love it. Like a great, you know, a great statesman for the league,

author of one of the great plays in Patriots history that came in a loss when he ran down... 13 years ago. When he ran down Champ Bailey. Was he, I wouldn't say a disappointing first round pick. It was the end of the first round, and he was solid. but people were so excited about Ben Watson when he came to the league because he just tested off the charts and seemed smart and it took a little while.

He said he kind of he didn't really understand the way Bill Belichick was back then but now kind of understands it and is down to come back. It's all happening. I mean, it's all great, but who's their tie-out? Matt LaCost and Ben Watson. Matt LaCost got 500,000. Ceparian Jenkins and Watson would seem to be fighting for one spot where I would guess Watson was probably in the lead there.

I have a prediction. How does this team to score points? I'll tell you what tight end winds up on this team by week one, because he, in my mind, I'm just realizing this now, is the most perfect Patriots type of player. Ronk? Seth Devalve. That's what's got to solve it.

How are they going to score points? They got a grade O line. They got backfield. They add a first round receiver. They're really not that much different. You lose Gronk and you add Nikiel Harry, which is obviously a major, major downgrade. I don't think they did enough here, though.

They knew Gronk, whether by injury or career-wise was not going to be around for much longer. They did not do enough here. Well, maybe they're not done. Maybe they still got work to do. We've got breaking news. The Patriots are still adding players. It's Dantrell and men. Come on down.

They added the wide receiver on Friday. What a perfect addition this is. He'll catch 17 passes. Oh, my God. Six of those will be huge in crunch time. Hey, as long as Josh Gordon has 120 catches for you, you're going to be funny in the show. He would help. I'm not counting on it, but he would help.

Breaking news. I mean, it was right as we're talking about. It's perfect. Finally, in the news, Derek Anderson is walking away. The veteran quarterback has informed the Buffalo Bills. He is going to retire the team announced on Thursday. He were signed with the bills after last season, but informed general manager Brandon Bean before the draft that he wasn't sure about playing in 2019. and now he is confirmed he has done.

I will now throw it to Mark Sessler, a man who has history with Derek Anderson, who's going to offer up a unique retrospective. Really what it is is a top five moments in a very interesting career. Very? The career of, well, interesting career. I think so.

I'm going to keep my mind open. Yeah, let's go to it. Number five, September 9th, 2007, led by Wet Behind the Ears quarterback Charlie Fry, the Browns host, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and a doomed opener, in which Cleveland is shredded, 34 to 7. Fry has replaced midway through the slaughter by gangly, big-armed Derek Anderson.

Largely a mystery at that stage after Brown's GM Phil Savage swung a trade with the Ravens for the said signal caller. Days later on 9-11, Fry is traded to Seattle for a song. Number four. You was traded on 9-11? Well, not the celebration, the commemoration of 9-11. Oh, not the day itself. Not the day itself.

It's 2007. How about we shut down business? It's 2007. The last time a week one starter was traded before week two. It really is. Number four, five days later on September 16th, 2007, Anderson makes his first NFL start. Lighting up the Bengals for five touchdowns in a bizarre 51 to 45 win over Cincinnati, running an Eric Horell-esque attack. Anderson looks sent from heaven in an offense featuring Jamal Lewis, Josh Cribbs, Brailleen Edwards, Kellyn Winslow, Joe Jurevicious, and rookie left tackle.

Best Browns team for the last 20 years. First round quarterback Brady Quinn watches from afar as Anderson becomes a minor god overnight. Number three, fast forward to December 23rd, 2007. The super frisky Browns are 9 and 5. All they need is a win over the Bengals in windy Cincinnati to make the playoffs. I am in Dallas with extended family and convince about 12 of my relatives to watch this Browns Bengals tilt and a massive Dallas sports bar. Over the next three plus hours, Cleveland totally sh-h-the-bed.

as Anderson flings four interceptions and a 19 to 14 defeat from hell. The Browns miss the playoffs and never make it again. Number four, that following February, just as his deal with the devil expires. Derek Anderson is handed a three-year extension by Cleveland. Meanwhile, the Browns coming off their 10 and 6 record are given five primetime games in 2008. What could go wrong?

Literally everything. Anderson is benched mid-season for Brady Quinn, and Cleveland nearly sets an NFL record by going 24 quarters without an offensive touchdown. Their output over the last six games of that 4-12 2008 season, 6 points, 6 points, 9 points, 10 points, 0 points, and 0 points. One year later in a game for the truly lost, Anderson is back in the lineup and beats the Buffalo Bills on October 11th in 2009 by completing 2 of 17. passes for 23 yards with an interception. Once again, two completions, 23 yards, and an interception. And they won.

Trent Edwards game? Yes. They won. They beat Trent Edwards. I covered that game. It's the worst game I've ever seen. 23 yards. But the best Eric Anderson moment of all came one year later in 2010 as the quarterback for

the ultra-spirling Arizona Cardinals. Let's listen in sports fans. Do remember this. Poor Kent Somers. I'm not laughing about it. You think this is funny. I take the shit. Real serious.

I put my heart and soul into this shit every single week. All I'm saying is the camera shows. I'm just telling you right now what I do every single week. Every single week. I put my freaking heart and soul into this. I study my shit off. I don't go out there and laugh. It's not funny.

Nothing's funny to me. I don't want to go out there and get embarrassed. I'm on the night football in front of everybody. That's why I'm asking you. I'm telling you right now. We're not talking. We're talking. What was the context?

I'm done. Sorry. I'm not dealing with him. Sorry. That was Kent Summers? Ken Summers. Arizona Republic. Who I've always appreciated has said a million times after that

that he always feels terrible that that's what people remember Derek Anderson for because he said he was one of the best quarterbacks to deal with, was totally professional within an hour of after that apologetic and was always like a great guy, but just caught him in a moment. You know, that's the tough part of being an athlete. I caught him in one of the lowest moments of his career. Right, I'll need to make light of that. It is a career moment, no doubt.

But I talked to him at that Panther Super Bowl when he was Cam Newton. backup during media night where you're just like end this thing and for like 15 minutes no one's standing around Derek Anderson we were just talking about old Brown's memories he was like the nicest guy ever so to your point six round pick 13 years you know wait did you mention the money night football game against the undefeated Giants was that one of your thing I was he lit him up 35 14 but that was a very depressing year but that was an awesome game he lit up an undefeated Giants team that's the only game during our lifetime when the Browns wore numbers on their helmets when they beat the Giants never wanted to move on fast

faster than this. Well, Kent Somers, we should say, one of the better beat guys in the business. He was wrong, though, because if you watched the video on the sideline, he was laughing. He was laughing,

but it was one of those, you know, when you're getting your ass kicked and you laugh so you don't cry type chuckles rather than having a good old time. But the Monday Night Football Telecast at the time, I forget who it was,

spent a lot of time talking about it, too. And so that was like the whole story. All right. We all good? Well, we can continue next show. I know I have to prep that Mark Sanchez retrospect now because that's going to be coming up later. Wait, did you, oh, I really wanted to include his 13 and 3 prediction

for the Jets that he did last night on Total Access. Did he really? A little viral clip. Maybe we can put it after as a little button. It was great. Good for you, Mark. You're going to be wrong. 14 and 2 is the correct answer.

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All right. It is now, it is time with the big wedding coming up a week from Sunday to talk about marriage prospects for NFL couples. All right Go around the horn twice And again I'll tease it A very special guest At the end of the show

Connected directly to the wedding And it may not be who you think it is All right Greg get us going Oh wow I'm gonna I'm gonna go with I don't know what the word is here

But Dirk Cotter and Matt Ryan getting remarried and it's going to be a great, beautiful... You know, I have an uncle that did that. Remarriage. I have an uncle who did that who got married, divorced, they spent some time apart,

reunited, got married again. Grass isn't always greener. It's like Liz Taylor and Richard Burton. It's like you've tried some other people out. If you're a dirt cutter, you thought you could maybe do a little bit better. You could be a head coach in the league. If you're the Falcons, you know, you've cycled through.

You had a really hot, you know, fling with Kyle Shanahan. But for the end of the career, for the end of kind of their football life together, let's get back to something comfortable. Let's get back to something that we know that works. And let's start getting some pieces around Matt Ryan that we've talked about on the offensive line that can really install the vision that Dirk Cotter has, which is not just throwing the ball like Kyle Shannon did. He loves the running game too, so that's not a great point.

But they're a power running team that also throws the ball deep, and they've got the players to do it. And Calvin Ridley and Julio Jones and certainly Sinoo over the middle, Austin Hooper. It's all there. And this marriage was quite productive. People forget how consistent and excellent Matt Ryan was, I think, when Dirk Cotter was there. He was a consistent top 10 quarterback, and it's just familiar.

Like, they don't have to go through, you know, maybe there's not the crazy early sparks the second time around. Or maybe there is. Maybe, yeah, everyone's a little different. You learned some tricks. You learned a few different things since the last year. You know what to stay away from, what to lean into? You know what you like about that other person and you can maximize each other and just,

there's no warming up to this marriage. It's hitting the ground running. I think you nailed it. I'd be a little concerned for Matt Ryan who at times, if you're during Cutter, is I think Greg's ever spoken more passionately about anything on this show than what just happened. Is Matt Ryan dreaming of Kyle Shanahan, though, at nights? Oh, yeah.

The true love of his life that walked out on him, so he kind of is reverting back and letting back in someone that walked away from him in Dirk cutter. Matt Ryan is Dante and Kyle Shanahan is Beatrice. Love the one you're with. Yeah, you're over our heads with that one, I think. Well, they never really got together, but he spent the whole rest of his life,

for her. He saw her two times. I mean, I think Kyle Shanhan was always someone that they knew was a short-term thing. It was brief and brilliant. But it had a very... It's like a reckless bad boy came in to Matt Martin's life. It had a very painful end that maybe none of, neither one of them has ever totally gotten over. And I think for Matt Ryan to really heal and to be the best that he can be, uh, bringing the little Dirk. And he needs to let go. Yeah, let go of that. Let go of the past and embrace. I mean, they went third, I don't know if you guys remember, they went 13 and three with Dirk cutter they were pretty good they're pretty great team um i like that all right um i want to talk about john gruden and antonio brown uh so oh let me just put a bow on that so you think that's a

built to last marriage doomed for divorce a little touch and go sounds like you think no i think it's built to last they're gonna they're gonna that's why you're so passionate uh john grun and Antonio Brown. I'm worried about this one. I don't say I want to stay positive, especially with the wedding coming up. I don't want to talk about divorce. It's an ugly thing and a terrible thing.

You know, that hurts people. But you never... Children. You never marry... Children, right. You never marry Crazy. And you have fun with crazy. Crazy is great for flings and short-term scenarios.

But it's not a long-term thing. Now, all right. Counterpoint, because I know it's already out there. You're calling Antonio Brown crazy? First of all, not nice. I get it. Lighten up, though. John Gruden also may be a little bit crazy.

And then you could say, oh, crazy and crazy cancel out crazy. But that's bullshit. That's just more crazy. And what I think's going to happen here is the first year, this first season, 2019, it'll be okay. There might be a few rumbles on the Richter scale, some signs that maybe the honey, moon is over at some point during the season, especially if the season goes in the direction that I think all of us believe it probably will go, which is, you know, not relevant January

football. It will be year two where I see this marriage potentially dissolving. And I believe they're moving into a big house in Oakland, I mean, in Las Vegas as well. Yeah. Is that a good place for a young married couple to go? No. I think that house is going to be a house of ours. There's a lot to add to the relationship, too.

I don't think Antonio is going to be at the house a lot If you catch my drift So I see this as a marriage doomed for failure And one that will lead to a lot of consternation I like to call this the Sid and Nancy marriage Sid Vicious and Nancy Sungen Now I got you on that ref Yeah I'm with you

It's going to be passionate I think it's more like Dante and Beechs Violent maybe Violent and memorable a little on the crazy side yeah but maybe not successful yeah crazy and crazy by the way do not cancel each other as you said

some people throw that stuff out there like oh they'll cancel each other out but sit and Nancy it's kind of epic like we're still talking about it all these years later a lot of good content came from that maybe a lot of you know no doubt about good content maybe some big time highs and some great content yeah like Bernatroyd and Eloise

well there's Eloise is a fan isn't she Tristan I don't know all right west you're up okay so like sit and nancy most of my references come from the 70s and 80s but let's go back way well that day and beat beatrice is back 11th 17th we're going back to the 16th century here okay again henry the 8th in anne boleyn henry the eighth divorced the spanish princess let's call her joshetta rosen joshetta wow abandoned the catholic church and founded a new

state religion let's call it the air raid offense i can just see one of erika's social videos like throwing you know putting you in these outfits right now just smart so henry the eighth is kingsbury and anne boleyn is kailer murray unfortunately their love affair ended when henry the eighth had anne boleyn beheaded yeah that was a tough spot yeah so prospects low i think that uh i think that i think Kingsbury's going to end up falling for someone else in a few years. Or be out of the league entirely when... In a Chip Kelly-esque, flourish. Right.

As some... Wow. Yeah, I think you're going to need to explain the context of it more for us simple Americans. Well, I think... Henry the 8th was tied to... The UK listeners are like, oh, we understand it. Right. He was tied to a Spanish princess, just like Kingsbury was tied to Josh Rosen.

Yeah. Something better came along. Yeah. He got rid of the Spanish princess. married Anne Boleyn, who is Kyler Murray, and then he had her beheaded. And I'm not sure if Kingsbury will be around in a few years to have Kyler Murray beheaded.

All right, so here's my only criticism of that analogy would be that Kingsbury, the king, when he got sick of the new wife, off with their head, he still had the power. In the Cardinal's structure, doesn't Kyler Murray, aka the new chick, have more power? ultimately in that organization than Kingsbury? I don't know.

It's a good question. Number one overall pick. I wouldn't assume that. Dude is the future. I would say... I don't think the GM is necessarily even on board with the fact that they drafted. I would say yes.

I would say the player has a little more... As long as he... Maybe it's the other way around. Off with his head, says Kyler. It depends on how good you are. I think if you're a legit top 10 type of NFL quarterback, then you have more power than the coach. But in that scenario, you would think it all be.

working out. I expect this to end in tragedy, is what I'm saying. Oh, my gosh. So early to say that, you know. We haven't even seen this guy. Wes, I want you to have positive thoughts about the idea of marriage here. I was a little surprised there and I'm a little nervous now. Well, for, okay, never mind.

Throw it to Mark. Mark, you have a happy ending here or what? I'll care to chime in on that comment by Dan there, Wes, if you wanted to. Well, let's see how this goes. I'm not sure I can bring the cheer that you're asking for. You know, plural marriages are all the rage right now, right? And they seem like a big old carnival ride from a distance, I'm sure. But I see a plural marriage bound to go way wrong.

And that to me is the love relationship between the Texans' offensive line and Deshaun Watson. Okay. A lot of people involved in this relationship. Those big, beefy road graders, they care for Deshaun. And they do a nice job when it comes to coordinating their one-on-one time. And also their weekly group meetings and dinners where you have to sit. down as a group and discuss all the ups and downs and the issues on the table. And there might be occasional jealousies.

You know, right guard, Zach Fulton is a very emotional guy who causes some issues. But I would see over all these big beefcakes, they loyally try to do right by their quarterback. But when it comes down to it, I think Deshaun is just going to get hurt by this relationship. I hope, yeah, I hope not physically. Well, he took a lot of punishment last year, you know, attempting something similar. And they're going right back into it with a lot of. lot of the same faces involved so speaking of Vegas they took it off the board which of the heroes

would bring a plural marriage on the show i mean i uh i don't blame you i mean this has been when a when an organization struggles to solve the same problem every single year you just lose you you lose faith this is kind of if bill o'bri in this scenario i don't know if bill o'brien's a matchmaker Remember when they wouldn't pay Dwayne Brown? But Bill O'Brien's been trying to, right, that's a great point. They traded him for a pick that, who knows what that pick's done. He's been trying to set up his quarterbacks for a lasting relationship with the offense one year after year. And they all strike out.

You know, it's just a bunch of duds. After a while, you start trusting their ability to evaluate what's a good match. That pick didn't help turn it to Sean Watson, was it? No, it was a second round pick. Maybe they did use it to help trade up. Some Texas fans can come at us. Yeah, I think it's very fair to be worried about that, Mark. If I'm a Texan fan.

The institution of marriage, which some people have issues with. There's institutional issues in Houston about how to properly protect a quarterback that is taking a beating. Titus Howard, who they took 23rd and they say they love, I think he might be their right tackle. And if I had to get, I would guess Matt Kahliel might be their left tackle. I don't know. Matt Kahlil keeps failing up.

Or you can put Titus Howard a left tackle. tackle where maybe he's not quite as good and then you have an open spot of right tag it's like either way it's it's trouble is mac leo bounce around the NFL getting starting jobs if he was a you know 200th overall pick is he still like getting these benefit of the doubt jobs just because he was just a lack of I think that's a great point it's just a lack of resources too it's a fair question you would not um Greg give us another one this is fun this is fun uh well I'm I'm going to talk about a marriage that's been around for a while.

And that's Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. And I think they've reached a special point in their relationship that they're deep in love, that they've now accomplished so much together that they recognize that whatever happens for the rest of their lives, even if they don't stay together forever, it'll never match up, it'll never replace the relationship that they. have so maybe the sparks aren't there and maybe they're even okay with maybe not an open marriage but like looking around and having other interests and they kind of are off doing their own things and they've reached their heights but it doesn't matter they have a connection between the two of them

that will last forever like they're not even going to get as emotion if this thing does break up and it has to break up at some point uh you know whether it's retirement or some other way they know especially after this last Super Bowl that they don't sweat it. They're each other's forever. Yeah. It's kind of like how like a they've, what they've built is an empire.

And maybe the marriage is not about, you know, passion at this point or pure love. But they, they're figureheads. And they, for the good of the company, they have to present stability and stay together, even if they maybe don't have the same spark anymore. But I think this last, the fact that they didn't end,

on this Jimmy G, 2007. It got a little rocky there. 17 drama, which ended with a nut. There's nothing worse, I think, for both of them than a Super Bowl loss. The fact that it didn't end on that, that they came back and they got one more, they scraped out one more that was, you know, Bill had kind of taken a back seat, his part of the marriage. You know, he was a lot more supporting, Tom, but in this Super Bowl, it was kind of all about Bill.

And I think that helps the two of them recognize each other. There's brilliant, and it's just going to make, however this ends, I really believe that this last Super Bowl is going to make the ending a little smoother than it would have. I think that, and they, that whenever you, they rallied as a couple, because there's a lot of people, especially when things got rocky around the Jimmy G thing. And that was almost like there was someone else, someone had a wandering either a little bit. And you kind of come back to home base a little. And they had a lot of people not rooting for them, rooting against them, rooting for the marriage to fail.

And they rallied. And like a good married couple, they both know the roles. They play them to A plus levels. And I think it's a very successful. It is arguably the most successful marriage in NFL history. You know what reminds me of? Remember about 20 years ago after Monica Lewinsky, Bill and Hillary getting off Marine One.

Getting off Marine One on the Great Lawn there and walking. Started on this one. Walking hand in hand together. Yeah. They're doing it for. the empire. That's right. It is more the empire building than the There's not necessarily sheer romance between Bill and Hillary. But also they get older and I suspect there's no one they would rather be hanging out with. It's

different. It's different. I disagree with that. Or hang out with. Well, they're still doing it. They've done everything together for so long that it would be too weird to shift gears. I mean this might be a little off topic but I heard, you know, Ria Perlman who had a great long, I mean one of the classic Hollywood marriages with Danny DeVito. Oh, yeah. You know, one of the great short people marriages of all time. Me and Emeka trying to live up to that kind of standard.

You're number two. Right. And they finally divorced after 30 years. When? This was a few years ago. I'm not sure when. I missed that. A few years ago.

The time I saw DeVito walking into a bar in Santa Monica. Yeah. Like he owned the place. Might have been five years ago. Might have been a little while ago. But you know what she says? She said they have a better relationship now. They have kids together.

They're better friends now. They talk more now. They have a better relationship now than when they were married. Not just uncoupling. Because it's like, they recognize what they meant in each other's lives. It's just like, hey, that's a long time. 30 years or 20 years for Tom Brady and Bill Belch. I mean, if we're off topic.

I brought it back around. Well, that was on. See, I brought it back. No, but I'll take us back off. Danny DeVito, 70 years old, about three and a half feet tall. It's hard than that. Not a, you know, not the most fit man. But rich and famous and likeable.

You think Danny did that? 410. That is, that's another level. I think he does well? I think he does very well and has always done very well. You know what I'm saying when I say does well.

I think we get it. He has swag. Yeah, right? He just has like an aura about him. Yeah, I'm not saying that's going to open every year, but he's got personality, he's funny, he's got swag, he's going to do better.

It's also massively rich. Some empty vessels out there. And brilliant. Famous. Still getting it done too on. I mean, Dan, we get, I think the three of us got where you're going. Unlike Wes's, you know,

European references. We got that one. One more. Anybody got one? Sure. I can skew positive. Okay, that's good. Well, 16th century wasn't far back enough. So let's go to Cleopatra and Mark Antony, arguably the most famous couple in history. We all had different interpretations of what this segment meant, but I think they ultimately worked out. They are described as brilliant to look upon and to listen to with the power to subjugate everyone.

This is going to be Baker Mayfield and O'Dell Beckham. Brilliant to look upon and listen to. And they're going to subjugate the entire NFL when they explode with this offense over the next half decade. This is going to be one of the most successful quarterback-to-wide receiver marriages we've seen. Love that. And they end up dying together, by the way. And I feel like if you're O'Dell, you did your best.

You had an arranged marriage with Eli Manning, and you did the best you could with it. there was a couple moments that he helped Eli Manning helped O'Dell Beckham along the way O'Dell certainly helped Eli but now he went and found love I think he went and found like someone that he is a perfect fit with and it wasn't what he necessarily even knew he wanted at first but then he got to Cleveland and he realized this is what I want I love that one it's almost been over not overlooked but in all the Brown's hype I mean the thing I'm most excited about is Baker Mayfield's to me the best quarterback to enter the league since luck in Russell Wilson in 2012 and that the upside is

who knows might be even higher so I mean that's what I'm excited and to see him have someone alongside I'm right in year two like O'Dell is awesome what a catch that's right yeah wow does that make O'Dell Beckham like a trophy wife or is it the other way around no I think there's a double trophy way they're equally powerful though it's like no it's like it's like when it's like when, you know, Tom Brady dropped some of the actresses he was with and found Giselle, someone on his level.

Yeah, I think that you could say Baker Mayfield is the perfect quarterback for O'Dell Beckham, and O'Dell Beckham is the perfect wide receiver for Baker Mayfield. Now, Jay-Z and Beyonce, another example, but just remember, there's fighting in the elevator. Every marriage is tough.

Fighting is okay. Everything looks perfect on paper. There's always going to be challenges. personalities need to compromise. Oh, speaking of power couples, let's welcome her in right now. Yeah, I tease it might not be who you think it was going to be. Gotcha. Trick move. It is who you thought it was going to be.

La Keisha, the Paramoire. In the studio, welcome. Hello, fellas. How are you? Good. You look great. You're ready. You look wedding ready.

That's what I'm going to say. The stress is like getting low now. I feel like you've definitely had a higher stress level than West throughout this problem. That's probably true of most aspects of life. Even his illness, I would say you were more stressed than he was. I don't know about that one, though. Okay, maybe not. Wow. I step too far.

Definitely wetting, though. Definitely. I think Wes was seriously stressed about life-threatening cancer. Potentially. I was stressed. We just wanted to bring you in because, yeah, you are getting married to one of the members of the show. The last bachelor. In a surprise, it's you're marrying Dan. Laurel marriage getting it going

So you're feeling good about this Feeling good Just need to order cupcakes Like yeah Cupca if you All right If you had to put it down For your marriage

Built to last Doom for Divorce Touch and Go What would you choose Definitely built to last I mean how to ask Stay on point with the segment Tough question

Yeah He would have asked me earlier In the wedding planning It could have been like Touching off It is a stressful process. What was going on earlier in the wedding planning? Jess, it's a lot of work, and I don't think he really realize it at the moment.

That it's just, it's a lot of stuff that you have to think about, like, flower girl baskets, like food, like all little details, the decorations, like. I think we had different ideas in mind for what the wedding would actually be. Mine was more like a very casual beach wedding that required very little planning. and that vision did not take hold in any way. He says beach like we're actually getting married on the beach. It's not on the beach. It's at a venue. It's like 20 feet over the beach.

So it's not a beach wedding. Like you still have to get cheers and decorations and stuff. That's just a lot of like waves lapping up against our feet. Everyone in flip flops and t-shirts. It is one of those things. And there are others, I think, in a marriage where ultimately the guy is kind of in the spot where like, yeah, you're stressing because all of those things that you want, I don't really. want or care about those things that much so it's going to be on you to kind of take the lead on that but then sometimes i'll help be like okay well this is how it's going to go and then it'll be like

i don't know about this and then i'm like are you kidding me that's fair i want to check a few boxes just catching up lakisha first off monday 3 p.m at jaggs barbershop i got an appointment with brett my guy her hair which puts me squarely in the six to 10 day window i was like i wonder And when you're getting your haircut, it's going to be in the perfect window. My haircut peaks, the gentleman's contour, six to ten days in. So I'm lining it up for the wedding and the photos, of course. And while we're here, one of the other topics is if you are okay with Greg's beard and you told him you were, if that is actually not the case, you could tell me privately and then I'll get it to Greg via a back channel that doesn't connect you,

whether you want Greg's beard in the wedding photos forever. I like Greg's, Greg's beard. Beard for the pitchers. Okay, but I'm just saying if... It adds a little sexy roughness to it, you know? Hey. She's not the only one. She's not the only one saying this.

Big time. RIP, officially, to one of my favorite names. A name that growing up, I didn't know if I'd ever know somebody with this name. And I'm so happy I did meet both the person and the name because it rolls off so beautifully. Lakeisha Jackson going to lose it. So you're officially going to take Wesleyan. You know, today it's like

it could be Chris Jackson because anything could happen in America. He said no to that. Okay. Oh, you asked. It was pitched. You asked though. I had to throw it out there.

Let's be honest. It's not bad. That's the former Mahmood Abdul-Rawf, Chris Jackson. That would be some Doug Christie stuff if you took Jackson. Well, let's be honest. Lakeisha has been very excited to take on my last name,

much more excited than I expected. Lakeisha Jackson is such a great name. I just want to say, I privately told you this, and now I'm going to say publicly, I'm going to miss it. I don't have a middle name, so it just kind of just slides over. We can still, it's your middle name then, and we can still call you Action Jackson. I mean, there's no rule we can't call you Action.

Why, you don't like that anymore? I can say confidently that you will be the first Lakeisha Wesleying in history. I was all adjunct to get in, like, the Gmail, like, address to make sure it wasn't taken. He's like, don't worry about it. And finally, there's been a lot of talk in the studio, hashtag first to Graham, who is going to be the first of the around the NFL podcast heroes to post the photo of the heroes in our tuxes, our black tuxes.

And just wanted to. I wouldn't assume that. I think it's going to be Dan. Right, I'm pretty sure it's Dan now. I mean, I like you've turned this into that the real focus here is on the four of us on their wedding day. That's what everyone's looking for. These are all the wedding is a fun thing.

You know, there's a lot of different subplots, and this is just one of them. You think Mark right now? Okay, we're going to see. I think Mark's been on a bit of a hiatus. I think a year ago you would have been potentially. What a way to come back. Behind the glass is your answer. Oh, yeah, that's a good point.

Eric's got this. Sneak attack. Because now that you brought it up, the moment you brought it up, I immediately thought, well, I'm not going to now. Because that's just sort of like my personal reaction is just like, well, I'm not going to bother now. because it's like it's sort of out in the ether and just like let someone else do it you know and there you go i think we have our answer though yeah it's ericamposi yeah rickie might be the perfect person she's the thirstyest for the clout so she's going for wow Greg you grew a beard so you could look like a man next to the rest of them whoa I mean it just happens don't don't bring a knife to a gunfight

with rickie I mean I mean temposi encouraged that I would say you maybe were the number one person to encourage to do it. I love it. It was all just a system to get to that line. 40 years in. We've now spent three plus minutes in Greg's beard during their wedding segment. All right. Let's hear that guitar again.

Let's play Lakeisha off. Thanks, Lecisha. For everything, for being the woman that you are and making an honest man of Chris. This construction worker to your left. We're not out of the woods yet on the honest man part. I mean, you're the number one NFL media power. a couple marriage at this point. I don't even know who's in the mix.

I mean, Steve and D. Weish are royalty. Okay, that's true. They have a longevity. But you both work here. Yeah, that's true. You guys are maybe the next in line then. I like that. All right.

Lakeisha. I can't wait to see. We're done. Stick around here, actually. We're just going to say goodbye anyways. I can't wait to see all of you people on Tybee Island. Oh, yeah. This is going to be fun.

We're going to get loose on Tai B. Get loose. And your brother? Who's the brother of yours? Nick? Nick, who's talking trash about cornhole, dares to come at the old Zeuser and Greg, who we just put on a display.

Well, Nick can back it up. I'm not worried about that. Why am I automatically removed from the... That's a good question. We were playing each other just weeks ago. I thought I fared pretty well. And then it's like not even in the discussion. Right.

I'm not sure how I feel about this either. It's like, okay, okay, Nick, you're going to replace Mark, who's basically never played with someone as good as Wes. And we were like totally even with my, I don't know how confident I really feel in this situation to be honest. I just, I don't care how the actual two on two goes down. I want Nick.

Nick was delightfully a little hacked off about all this. He did not want to hear the trash talk on the podcast. The mind games are beginning. It's not just about physically. It's how can you handle the psychological warfare when it comes to Cornhole. Well, Nick will not shut his mouth the entire day while we're playing Corto. Bring it. Bring it.

All right. Very excited. As you can tell in our voices, we're really pumped. And Ricky's coming, too. It's going to be on the gram. It's great. All right. We'll be back on Monday.

Right? We'll be back on Monday, and then we'll have another show that will go up early Thursday, and then we are off for the island. But we'll see you very soon, or hear from us, I should say. Let's go. This is Dan Hansus, signing up. I'm so hungry. We need you help

We need this Come on Greg Come on, buddy We are in the future Will you be my dad That's weird Yeah We need you help Greg

I'm ready for a third I think Can I trust you So much Hey dad We must listen to Delaware Do it for us. Keisha's so confused right now.

I'm so confused. Who is that? Who is that your kids? We love Delaware. Stop. This is so cute. Oh, it's both of you? I need to listen to Delaware.

It's up to you. Luke Colton, Jack Harrison. I love it. They are the children that he makes up. I didn't realize. I didn't realize. there all right this is dan hansa signing off for quiet storm the mailman the soon to be ex-action jackson the old boss of ricky hollywood behind the glass till monday

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