NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Mega Deal Chatter, Toaster Classic

Episode Date: June 9, 2016

A room full of heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler – break down the potential deal that could make Andrew Luck the highest paid player in league history & Von Miller turning down the Broncos offer.  Plus, the heroes discuss Cam Newton ending the “dab.”  Then the heroes are joined by NFL Media’s Dave Dameshek for another installment of “Win Wess’ toaster!”Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast. Dab on Dem folks. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling and Greg Rosethall. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan.

Thursday, fun, fun, Thursday's fun. T-G-I-F's next. Yay! Workshop on that one. Yeah, I'd keep it in the shop for a bit. Yeah. How's everybody doing? Big day.

You know, Hanzas, taping things, going downtown to cover the Arizona Cardinals later today. That's right. All or Nothing, the new Amazon series that drops a multi-part documentary on July 1st, and it is, from what I understand, also done with HBO film. So you have that.

Everybody's in good hands here. NFL films. NFL films, excuse me. This could be the Hard Knocks full season type show we've always been waiting for. And they documented the right team, too, the 2015 cards. The team of ATL. Team of ATL, the team that went all the way, obviously, to the NFC title game. So anyway, I'll be there tonight.

There's also an open bar and free food, hallmarks, and things that the old Zuzer likes. So I look forward to it. meanwhile you abandon your softball team work duty calls duty calls coming off our best all around game of the season yeah we played really well against the solid team a 156 victory last week with david ely of course suspended uh for his malfeasance so we are now three and two if the season ended today we would be in the playoffs um so things are going well there with me out of the picture tonight. My consigliary, my own personal, Don Zimmer, the great Hall of Fame

softball player, Chris Wessling steps up into the managing chair and he's got a big challenge against the undefeated Barney's Nooners. Oh, we're going to get killed. I'm just going to play to have fun. Put everybody in weird positions and don't even let them get caught up in the competition because it's a mismatch. How do you know what if they're missing a rash of players? I will be able to ascertain that based on my experience when I watched them warm up. I'm going to stay out of this because again I gave West the team for the night but what about the old Hoosiers Gene Hackman you know measuring the hoop like listen it's the same diamond we all get the same amount of outs here think you have to trust my 20 plus years of softball coaching

experience here I know when to let let it loose and have fun and I know when to play competitively you you are the potentially the Bruce Arians to Dan's Chuck Pagano Pagano well respected well liked an analogy but Ariens in the long run he took an opportunity It was your analogy before the show, but someone had to use it. I see how it works around here. And I did. I also warned before the show, if we're going to run with this analogy, I'll be sure to pounce on it if we do lose by 20 runs tonight.

Which is fairly likely. Well, we'll say. One footnote, there was some concern that maybe there wouldn't be enough players because there are a lot of people out tonight. And people saying, oh, well, maybe we should get David Ely back in the lineup. Now, come on. That's not what this team is about. We shot that down right away.

and he will not see the field tonight. He's not allowed to be on the premises. And by the way, he organized a dinner for himself with a lady friend. So the guy could not care less about the sport and his involvement in it. Well, I'm happy for him the date. We know that the way the relationship ended with his college girlfriend, that did significant emotional damage to him. And even at the age of 28, he's still kind of recovering from that.

So if there's another woman out there, maybe he could take this suspension and turn it into something that makes him a happier person. massive long show you know what could help the damage is you mentioned it repeatedly on the podcast i'm definitely coming up in his meetings with his uh psychoanalyst um okay great show today pregrade a minus wow um it's rare very excited you know why i'm excited uh because a couple things first of all behind the glass first time in a while uh he is uh t d whoa who is that guy filling it right away he doesn't even know how the dean's scream works but but we have not had tidy

behind the glass in ages uh you're not even doing the sheck show anymore right today i am i'm involved i'm always involved i stay involved but i'm not on a day-to-day sheck show i'm handling that are you trying to become a shadowy league figure is that what's going on here not at all i'm always going to be a man of the people that's what i strive for you're not involved with any people at the company right now you've you've removed you've taken yourself out of every equation that has to with the podcast. No, I'm still very much in the podcast world. Here at work, here doing my own, you know, doing some little show

at home as well. That's called expert middle management. There's many people at this company where if you really dig down deep, it's confusing what they do at all. Well, it's not confusing. It's very little, masked as much. Well, there's that. I mean, we're looking busy is a hard job

to do. We're hashtag blessed here, TD, a nice platform. Why don't you give a little plug for your basketball podcast? Oh, thank you, Dan. It's so nice. Make a ticket podcast. It's a podcast I started with Cal Montgomery who covers the Clippers for Fox Sports and Lauren Murray, who's a researcher here at the NFL and an NBA guy. We learned from the best, I'll tell you that.

We record a show after every big game right at night. Ray, like the amount of NFL podcast tapes on Sundays during the week. Smart. Law Murray knows his stuff. He does. Really good. So make sure you check that out. So TD's here.

I'm excited about that. Also excited the return of Win West's Toaster. I told you guys I'm a little bit rusty. but here we go And you know If Wes is involved with the It's not even Wes's toaster Greg as you know

I know you're not excited about today Pre-grade show of C-minus from Greg Rosenthal Well win Damashek's toaster everyone forgot about And no one asked to have back on the show Wow Greg Rolls right off the tug So if Wes is going to try to get that toaster back

That should give you a little hint of a guest who might be showing up a little later. But we'll get to that. For now, let's do some news, TD. Oh, no. Hey, everyone. I could have had some opportunity to drop some superhero knowledge for just for West, specifically. That's Spider-Man, the Civil War, saying, Hey, everyone.

Yeah, I think that, like, most of our listeners under 10 will appreciate your drop there, TV. They will. All right, let's start with some money matters. And the quarterback, Andrew Luck, who has a chance to become the richest man in the NFL, which is quite an achievement. Ian Rappaport reported that slowly over the course of several conversations since February, the two sides. The Colts and Andrew Luck have been moving closer on the terms of a potential deal that would no doubt make luck the highest paid player in league history. Currently, that player is Joe Flacco, somewhat surprisingly. That's how you cash in, baby, who is earning 22.1.1.

$3 million per year on his current extension. Highly unlikely luck will accept anything below that. Rapsheet goes on to say that this deal can reach $25 million per year, given his age, productivity, and leverage. He's on his 50-year option right now where he's making over $16 million. We'll start with this, Wes, one of the best young quarterbacks in the league coming off a season where he got hurt and also was not good before he got hurt. Would that give you any pause if you were in the front office of the Indianapolis Colts?

No, it wouldn't. And I understand why, to me, the most intriguing part of Ian's report was that the holdup originally was that Jim Ursae wanted to sign him to a 10-year deal. They want him locked up for the rest of his career, and that tells you how good he is. I know that he was disappointing last year even before the season ending injury, but that's seven games. And what I saw on tape for 50-something games in his first three seasons, to me, is a litmus. test for how well your eye can gauge a football game. He's a no doubt stud. And I think he's exactly what you build around in the NFL.

I mean, we have the NFL honors at the end of the year, and I'm sure everyone wants to win those. But being the highest paid player in the league, that is the ultimate NFL honor. I don't know if that's what gets Andrew Luck out of bed in the morning or not. But that is reaching the pinnacle of your sport, and it sounds like he's going to get more than $25 million a year. And I've heard some people say, well, this isn't great,

news for a Colts team that is very top-heavy, I guess you could call it. You know, there's some big weaknesses on the defense, on the offensive line. But that's stupid logic. He's underpaid. All top 15 quarterbacks, to me, are underpaid even in a salary cap. So it doesn't matter. Just give him the money. This is a highly noxious time of year because we're going to have to file multiple stories

about like six or seven players that are between June and July about to sign big deals. and I don't care until it happens. We have had so much information about player X wants to sign this deal. It's going to make them the richest play. Just do it. There's going to be no end to richest paid player in the league. Year after year this happens. In honor of you, Mark Sessler, let's move on to our next news item.

Von Miller and the Broncos are at an impasse over guaranteed money as they work towards a mega deal that would make von Miller potentially the highest paid non-quarterback in the NFL. The Broncos had reportedly set a 10 p.m. Tuesday deadline to reach an agreement, which is funny, but they have not pulled the offer. This is all coming from NFL media's James Palmer, who has a source and forms of the negotiations. The Broncos are reassessing their position, and negotiations remain ongoing. Palmer said right now, Miller is set to play under the franchise tag, which is under $14 million. Of course, Von Miller's Super Bowl football. 50 MVP, absolute monster stud.

This is going to get done, right? I think we have to come up with a new word for soft deadline because there's no deadline at all. It was like a wish cast or a suggestion. Well, and supposedly it's the second time the Broncos have done this. You've got to do it by this day or it's not going to happen. I think they wanted to get him in for the mini camp. That's not going to happen.

There is a real deadline. July 15th is literally the deadline for a long-term deal for him this year or else he'd have to play under the franchise tag or sit out the year. But what you were talking about, Mark, I couldn't agree more. And Von Miller is the perfect example. We have seen seven different reports in the last three days from every media outlet and everyone's carrying different pails of water for different sides of the negotiation. Oh, Von Miller's going to sit out a year.

Oh, they didn't actually reject the deal. They accepted it. Like, all this stuff is just semantic nonsense. I agree. It's interesting, one thing with the Broncos, because they can think about paying this kind of a player, this money because they're suddenly not having to pay Peyton Manning. the money he was getting. They're not going to have to pay a quarterback that much cash.

Or Brock, for that matter. Yeah. Moving on, I really hope that you did not purchase a Austin Safarian Jenkins jersey after he went in the second round of the 2014 NFL draft to the Bucks because things are not going well between those two sides. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers tight end was sent off the practice field Thursday. Coach Dirk Cutter told reporters he was sent home because he, quote,

didn't know what he was doing, according to the Tampa Bay Times. Cutter added that the issues are, quote, between us. And just to give you an idea of how ugly this got, after he was sent off the field, Svarian Jenkins posted a tweet, which read in all caps, moving on. He since deleted that tweet, but you get the feeling that the two sides, well, we know for a fact, are in a terrible place, Greg. Well, now that I think about it, maybe he meant moving on like he needed to move past this bad day on the team, not that he's moving on from the team, but it doesn't matter.

The main story here is that Wes's boy, Cameron Brayt, is there. They have Luke Stocker who they play kind of blocking tight in. And Safarian Jenkins was a promising looking player who looks like he's going to get passed. I mean, you like this guy, Brate. I do. When I rewatched all of James Winston's plays for our redrafting series, Brate really kind of jumped out as me as a guy who's more reliable than Jenkins. Jenkins has had maturity issues since he got to the NFL.

If Brate has an obvious rapport with Winston, he's more athletic than you would think for an undrafted player out of Harvard. So I think this ASJ's loss is Brate's game. And in Cotter, Dirk Cotter, their new coach, who was their coordinator, has made it clear he's a Brate fan. I don't think you even need to read between the lines that Brate is likely to start over Sabarian Jack. I like the move for Dirk Cudder because I'm a new coach. You know, people around here, some might still look at me as the offensive coordinator that just took the job. You've got to drop a couple big vocal hammers in front of the press. to show who's in control.

Now we have great expectations. That was like Sessler's strategy the day I was gone. He wanted to set a tone. I'm not, you know, when he's manning the shop for me on Monday, you know, he's going to drop some bombs on you. Whatever's necessary. Yeah. Shiny apples.

Move on. Let's talk about another second round pick. Bad news for the Saints. And Paholi Kakaha. It's pretty close. The pass rusher suffered a torn ACL, Ian Rappaport reported in his second season, the number 44 overall pick will miss all of 2016 with the injury. This is something, obviously, a big setback for Kikaha and the Saints who are trying to fix

this defense, which is an absolute mess last season, Chris Wesley. Yeah, I think it's problematic because the Saints don't have depth that defensive end, and they didn't, they got a few things for their defense in free agency, but they didn't get a pass rusher. Right. He wasn't a pass rusher last year. He was a strong side linebacker, and they moved him to defensive end because they needed it so bad,

and now they're kind of back where they started. The loser here, Dennis Allen, this defense has the potential to really suck, and the winner is Rob Ryan, who after flaming the guy in a massive Q&A is not there anymore and won't have his name attached to this fire fire. Do you think Rob Ryan is happy about this injury? I don't think he's happy specifically about the injury. I think he's happy about anything that comes close to misfortune in New Orleans.

Well, they took three guys in the first three rounds last year on defense, right? So they're moving one guy's out for the year. Stefan Anthony had some good moments, but they're moving his position too. PJ Williams looks pretty good. I mean, they keep just drafting all defense all the time. And eventually, you would think they would get a little better and they'd hit on some guys. CC Mickey Loomis. In other ACL news, Greg, the Patriots lost Michael Williams to a tour and left ACL in practice.

Old Williams making the show. He likely be placed on injured to reserve. What will the Patriots do a tight end this season? That's my question. You know, I liked what I heard about Michael Williams, the old tight end kind of sixth offensive line and blocking guys. Jumbo tight end. I don't want to make light of his injury. You know, he was the new Michael Huma Nahuah Nahuy.

Better than Huma. We needed a new version of that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. One of my favorite guys. Favorite names in NFL history. In other news, big news, Cam Newton is ditching the dab. The Panthers quarterback told WFNZ radio on Thursday morning.

He will bust out a new touchdown celebration in 2016. Newton said, I have put that aside. He told Black and Blue Review, I have time. I have until September to find a new celebration. Too bad we didn't have a video rolling in here. Let's throw it over to the Kissing Cousins who have hot takes, I'm sure. Preening, Mark 2. I mean...

It's going to be some form of preening. All right, great. I basically, through NFL's mail system, sending a bottle of whiskey to Patcher for offering to cover this story because I did not want to write about this. Why not? It seems to me that if you're going to attach your celebration to a song of the hour, Isn't it obvious that you wouldn't go back to dabbing next season?

That thing is old. It's already old news. Thanks, Cam Newton. It is June. We cannot get to September fast enough enough. But this, you know, this as celebrations go, this is postworthy. I mean, this may be up there with the most famous celebrations in NFL history. Not to mention the cultural impact he made.

People are dabbing all over the world, largely because of Cam Newton. Hillary Clinton once dabbed. Oh, my God. Yeah, but it's getting exponentially. dumber with each of these new layers of people doing it i agree i'm just i'm excited what dan what do you think um what do you think is new celebration is going to be oh i don't know i don't know i don't really care either to be honest with you but these things do that's a kudai ta to get dan to say that they are cyclical and uh because you remember back in the 2012 season uh the gangdom style remember when

everybody was doing that dance and that was it became exhausting because everyone was doing it um now you know the dabbing song's over now, so it's over. That's fine. Never really about the song. It's over, so TD starts playing it. They were playing this, like, crazy Super Bowl. I told you all, Rusty.

As my role on the party beat, Super Bowl Week, that song was in every club. And people were dabbing. It had its moment. If nothing else, West, you have to give credit to the lyricism. As a Joni Mitchell fan, Wes. Yeah, I mean, who wrote that, Bob Dylan? There's some heavy parallels.

Leonard Cohen's finest song right there. Finally, in the news, Michael Crabtree, the Oakland Raiders wide receiver, says that Derek Carr reminds him of Brett Fav. Uh-oh, what's that? A gunslinger, Crabtree said? He's always going to be a gunslinger,

and I love that. An old Brett Fav-type quarterback, he reminds me of Brett Fav. and Brett Farb is one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Greg, this one's a big-time trope, isn't it? Not only Gunslinger, but especially Brett Farb. How many quarterbacks over the last 10 years have been compared to Brett Farb? 35,000 is that?

He is the go-to comparison. Well, last year the go-to comparison for the exact same quarterback was Aaron Rogers. Remember James Jones was calling him Aaron. Just put Derek Carr in the Hall of Fame right now. No one's ever like he's the next Dan Marino. You know what I mean? Let's get, you know, let's get the next Jason Campbell. Why does everyone need to be the next this or that?

Why can't he just be him? Why can he be the next Derek Carr? Or, yeah, I mean, sure. All these first round quarterbacks or early second round, no one ever says he's the next J.P. Lossman. Right. Wait, are we? He's the next Steve DeBerg.

Are we slowly some corrective steering here over to Warren Sapp's side of the argument? It's like, listen, Timmy Jernigan. Don't try to be number 99. Try to be number 97. Timmy Jernigan. That's a, I didn't expect that argument or that entire storyline to pop back up into the podcast, but you've done a good job there. Yeah.

That's what's happening in the news. All right, Wes. Now, before we bring in our next guest, let's just talk about, let's reset the deck a little bit here. You historically have been a dominant trivia player in Win West's Toaster, game of skill and valor. And then now here is your chance at redemption. Would you call us a redemption shot for you? Is this your rumble in the jungle? I wouldn't.

No, I don't think so. I think that my work speaks for itself. Well, I think if you're comparing him to I Lee, I think it would be more like the latest fights of his career after he had already lost the title two times. I think that's fair. Wesleyan has lost the title two times. And the second time to Sheck.

Famously, I'm undefeated against... But my match against you was a great match. That was just good trivia. My match against Shek, first of all, was all Super Bowl trivia, which is not something I'm ever going to be good at and is right in Sheck's wheelhouse. Also, I wasn't into it that day.

I got fat. I didn't prepare. I think something was going on in my personal life at the time, and I just wasn't into the show. Do you feel like you prepared this time? Do you care? No. No, but I feel like I...

Okay, that's a good turn of events. No, but I feel like I'm strong enough to beat Shuck if the questions are fair. All right, so a little bit of subtle finger pointing going on there, but at the same time, confidence is still there. Well, there's no doubt there's an energy in the air right now, a buzz, like a big heavy white fight. So, TD, do we have anybody behind the glass

that is ready to make an entrance? Yes, we do. Here he comes. Uh-oh. That... That's Dave Damashek's music. Oh, man, look at the swagger. Oh, now for the audience at home,

Sheck is rolled in, holding the toaster. He just stuck in in to Wes's face, an act of disrespect right out of the Ali handbook. Sweet, sweet toast. Bet you wish you could take a bite, don't you, well? Wow, the true swagger of a champion on display here. It was really for show anyway on Tabi. We don't have outlets to plug electronics in.

We cook with fire. Ooh, electricity burn. You are almost like the Muhammad Ali of the toaster game and that you're the guy that you come to win, you win, and then you talk a ton of trash. Wes, you're more like the quiet, dignified champ. Well, it's giving me a lot of benefit of the doubt, thank you. I would say Sheck would be more like Leon Spinks,

like a champion who, after he wins it, everyone loses interest in the sport a fraud you're calling me a fraudulent champagne and by the way what are you wearing rosenthal it's time for an upgrade in the in your wife and i got together and talked about it's time for you to upgrade the subplot don't steal hellie's bits from downstairs so for those of you that might not be aware of win west's toaster it is a game of skill and valor but really it's a trivia game it's an NFL trivia game and we've played it i don't know much to greggergrin probably a dozen times by now over the last couple of years and Wes has been dominant at times

but he's had a couple stumbles across along the way and his latest stumble was perhaps the most humiliating after vanquishing Sheck in the past very easily treating Sheck like almost a Hammondager a jobber. Sheck shocked the world with a two to one victory

a couple of months back and he walked out of the room with the toaster and we've waited months like we've waited months for Shaq to give us our sandwiches from Oh, yeah. Yes. I do have to be.

Why don't we address that real quick? Listen, I'm happy to do it, but, uh, but the ATNers have become pre-Madonnas, you know, they're like, uh, what are you averaging, collect? I mean, each of you does about like, uh, two hours worth of work daily. Is that about, wow. If you're not here, though, oh, our job has become more like yours. Is that right? Yeah.

I wish. I mean, well, you know what that's like, toiling. I mean, that's just sick. seven days a week, you know, restless night. It's coal mine work. Sheck thought or believe that Peyton Manning would have a front office job by the 2016 NFL draft, and we all took him up on it. Four sandwiches on the line.

The draft was, what, two months ago now? All right. Listen, I owe West sandwiches from a year ago with, I said that Ryan Mallett would start 12 games, I believe. I don't think he got a little close with the Ravens right there. Sleeps still 12. halfway there. And there's another one.

So I'll West at least two same. That Peyton Manning would not lead the Broncos to the playoffs. Oh, that's what it was. The Broncos wouldn't make the playoffs. That one came very close to coming. It did come close. Week 16, everybody forgets this now, but the Super Bowl champions or champions, as Dave says, in week 16 at like half time, they were kind of in line to miss the

postseason outright to go from a chance of being the one seed to the seven. Real things that happen in sports. Sheck, one question for you. I mean, you've had, what is it, four or five months that you've had? the toaster he's been sitting on it well exactly have you taken it home made food made toast uh or i mean have you treasure the trophy could make us a sandwich with it well no it took a little bit of effort here um to to get it but i had it affixed uh as my hood ornament on my car and i was you know was a real uh conversation starter out on the roadways you're attached to it pro toast elite

this isn't any toaster this toaster if you for each of the 32 NFL team If you want to put that team's logo on your toast, you can do it. And I don't know how they do it, but it's magic. And that's why it is a grand prize. Yes. All right. I think it's time for what to talk about it. Well, listen, it's not quite statute of limitations, but you needed to.

When are we going to talk about your weird fans that tweet me, they're bile? Like I have any interest in. We're not aware of that. What do they say? You have no idea. About what? No. You know, the unsolicited.

attacks against Damashek. We don't support that. We love Shaq. Let me tell you something. I'm about this, go get my lunch guy, Nick 40A.

Ooh. Oh, okay. Yeah. He's taking shots at you? No, he just told me, like, the toaster belongs to one of the heroes for Damashek. And that hurt my feelings.

Wow. All right. All right, let's get into it. This is the game. What? game. Wes's Toaster. Or Win Sheck's Toaster.

How do you know I haven't retired the Toaster? Because, well, we can play for Wes's hair dry. All right, that's fair. What about his, what about his, uh, Win Wes's George Foreman grill? What about that? When, uh, Big green egg. Win, when Wes's cake batterer. I, well, listen, the toaster belongs to me, sir.

It's my toaster. Win one of Wes's 37 plaid shirts. The toaster formerly known is, Chris Wesleyings. You understand? How about this? As the commissioner here, I will say that you've had the title for a long time now. You've had the toaster. You have not, you have not put the title on the line. And it's gotten to the point where either you have to go for a matchup right now or we're going to have to strip you of the toaster, which is not a dignified way to go out as champion. I'm not going to sit here and take your threats. Start the game. Oh, I'll play your game.

All right. I'll dance. It doesn't suit me though. It takes me, it takes me 17 minutes to say hello to somebody, let alone answer five or six questions. That's what suited you find last time. That's what made it such an upset last time around. Now, as we know, Mark Sessler is the official timekeeper. Right. How much time is it that we time? 60 seconds.

60 seconds. It's been a long time here. Six questions, 60 seconds. Both players get the same six questions, one out of the room while this happens. If they tie, we go to the timer who got those questions done in a faster manner. So you also want to stop the clock at a certain point. if you don't want to hear a question you missed or passed on. And then Greg Rosenthal is, of course, the official score.

Has anyone vetted these questions? Because I, listen, I don't mind reminding everybody if you're a long-time listener of the program, which I'm, by the way, glad that you guys are still doing. I think it's neat to find out that you're still working at it. Good for you guys. The line of questions that I lost to West the first time I played the game, We're along the lines of what nutritional supplement did Dick Buckus advocate for? What do I know?

What is that a – that's not trivia. That's trivial. You say it's a big difference. And the same thing, what is – who's the corporate sponsor of the Dolphin Stadium? What do I? What does that have to do with anything? It's not the answer. I was going to say – I was going to say, enjoy this podium all at less.

All right. Yeah. Listen, that's fine. You know what? I'm like Reggie Jackson, you know? If they ain't booing, they don't know who. who you are. That's how I feel.

Fine. I'm on enemy soil. So be it. Well, I'm going to rise to this. This is Christmas Day in Russia. That's how Sheck feels right now. But I will say this. Since Shek is the champ, it's only right that he gets to decide whether he answers first or second.

I respect home field advantage. And so Wes is the home team. So I'll go first, right? Isn't that the preference that Wes likes to go second? Yes. I'll play. I'll dance. I'll play your game.

All right, Wes, be gone, buddy. I just want to say, best wishes to you, Chris West. Is there an area? Also, that was another weird one. So when I win the toaster, oh, well, the subject was the Super Bowl, as though that's some random, fringy thing to talk about on a football show, the most important game in the sport. Like, how dare you ask questions about that?

Well, that's, I don't know if Dave actually deserves credit for winning questions about the Super Bowl. It's fair. Bringing up some solid. points. All right, Dave. So here we go. Again, 60 seconds. If you want to pass on a question, you could say pass and we could come back to it. Or after the sixth question, you say stop the clock because remember, that's the tiebreaker. Can I tell you? I want to admit something to you. I'm already getting a little dewy at the prospect of competing right now. That's true. And we do vet the questions, both Sessler and Rosenthal signed off on them. Mark, you said that they were

tough but fair. That's essentially what my message was. Sessler is a man. of integrity thank you you're only one here that's true all right I said nothing about anyone else the question mark the the timer starts when TD starts the ominous background music Adrian Peterson and Doug Martin finished 1-2 and rushing yards last season who finished third Todd Gurley Vince Farragamo came out of nowhere to the Rams to the Super Bowl in the 1979 season who is the starting QB whose injury gave Farragamo his chance. Pat Hayden.

This guy went from ballboy to PR intern to offensive assistant to at 35 years old, the NFL's youngest head coach in 2006. John Harbaugh. Aaron Rogers was one of three quarterbacks taken in the first round of the 2005 NFL draft. Who are the other two? Alex Smith and, boy, oh boy. Mark Sanchez. In 2015, this wide receiver set the NFL record for most receptions in his first two seasons.

Ten seconds. DeAndre Hopkins. Four running backs have been named the NFL MVP since 2000. Time. I took two. I didn't even hear that wide receiver one. 2014 and 2015 most catches by a wide receiver. In the history of the league.

Oh, Odell Beckham for the first two seasons. You got, well, you started out out of the gate. Wait a second. What was the last one? I'm curious. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You got the first two right.

Okay. And then you went down in flames. How did I miss that the easiest? I mean, that's the easiest question I think I've ever experienced on, on Wes's toaster. Which one are you talking about? I'm not going to, but that one was. All right.

Now, Shaq, if you would honor the game and play a little poker now, don't let the old man know. Okay. Here comes Chris Wesleying now back into the room, wearing all plaid. In fact, we went to the bar to watch the basketball game last night, and I parked next to Wes's car, and hanging in the back seat on a hanger was, guess what, a plaid shirt? I was like, is that, is that Wes's car? I was like, that looks like his car,

and there's a plaid shirt hanging as I can still look. And then I look around the front seat, and on the front seat, there's a stack of printed papers about NFL, like NFL history. I was like, this is the most whistling car ever. It could be no other. All right, Wes, now is your chance. it has all come to this and do you want to know how many she got i know because you're not going to tell me

anyway okay you're right i was not going to tell you that was a test to try to throw you off your game but no more uh games uh now the only game here we go chris wessling adrian peterson and dug martin finished one two and rushing yards last season who finished third todd girly viz farragamo came out came out of nowhere to lead the rams to the super bowl in the nineteen 79 season who was the starting quarterback whose season-ending injury gave Farragamo's chance. Ron Jaworski. This guy went from Ballboy to VR intern to offensive assistant to a 35 years old, the NFL's youngest head coach in 2006.

Pass. Aaron Rogers was one of three quarterbacks taken in the first round of the 20-05 NFL draft. Who were the other two? Alex Smith and J.P. Lawson. In 2015, this wide receiver set the NFL round. record for most receptions in his first two seasons. Odell Beckham.

Four running backs have been named the NFL MVP since 2000. Name it. 10 seconds. Jarvis Landry, I'm changing that instead of Odell Beck. Four running backs have been named the NFL MVP since 2000. Name them. Adrian Peterson, the Danian Tomlitz and Priest Home. All right.

Now, Greg Rose, this is very interesting. This is history right now. And Win West's Toaster, Greg Roosevelt is the official score. Chris Wessling said originally, His answer was O'Dell Beckham for who has the most receptions ever in their first two seasons. And then he went back and changed it to Jarvis Landry, which is indeed the correct answer, people. Greg, will you allow that? We've never, have we ever done that before?

That we have done that. There should be rules to that. I think that's fair. But in the end, I am going to accept that. Okay. All right. And so when does that leave? That leads Chris Wesleyan with two correct answers.

he didn't have any time left. That means it's a tie. Whoa. The toaster stays with check. Wow. Wait a second. I don't know. That's not the rule.

I'm making it the rule. It's a sudden death. Oh. Sudden death. Question. Everything on the line. Holy hell. Boy, whoever answers first?

Yes. That's too much pressure for me. Oh, my God. I'm a delicate flower. I can't handle that. It's all on the line. All right. Before we get into the sudden death around,

let me just go through those. answers. Todd Gurley, yes, finished third in rushing as a rookie. Pat Hayden was the quarterback that started that season for the Rams before eventually Farragam. Former USC star. Eric Mangini was the head coach at 35 years old. Surprised you guys

didn't get that one. I wasn't even I was thinking about the question I blew before that. Alex Smith and Jason Campbell picked the pick after Aaron Rogers by the Redskins Jarvis Salandry, 194 catches in his first two seasons.

and the four running backs, Marshall Falk, Sean Alexander, Falk in 2000, Alexander in 05, Tomlinson in 06, and Peterson in 13. So now, tough questions. Those were tough. Tough but fair. The Jarvis Landerie one was a great pull to go back and get that one. What was that? There was another one that was pretty interesting, but anyway.

But, yeah, oh, the J.P. Lawsman answer, he's a great answer. to the trivia question of who was the fourth quarterback taken. You're feeling good, check. And the historic out of four class. You came out of this tide. You didn't get wiped. You came out of it showing well. Yeah, it's funny because I would have said my John Harbaugh answer was,

I thought he had a similar sort of background that he started out as a ballboy or somewhere or something like that. But anyway. All right, guys, I quickly, like a good host, thought of a tiebreaker question. And this is unprecedented. Can we get a little drama muse? The first person to answer. And again.

A lot of tension here. Mark, you will be the judge here who jumps at first if it's close because you have the best angle. All right. Whoever answers a question. Here we go. Here it comes. First one to answer.

In the 2004 NFL draft, Eli Manning went first overall. Philip Rivers went fourth overall. Name one of the players picked in between. That's a good question. You get one guess, by the way. 2004, 2004. One of those players was a wide receiver.

Andre Johnson. Wes is incorrect. Give us an answer. So now I have all the time in the world. all the time in the world all the time in the world oh we'll put you well this is called the speed round right says who speed round nothing no one said anything about how fat the speed was whether or not i could beat west he's given his answer you have 20 seconds you have 20 seconds i don't know about that can i guess again no i think receiver you say you have five seconds answer the question

Larry Fitzgerald yep oh oh he got it is the correct answer Sheck keeps the toaster She keeps the toaster She keeps the toaster She keeps the toaster Pit background pays off again City of Champagne

Don't feel bad Because everyone forgot about Robert Gallery Oh wow Dave Damashek Who is already I should have mentioned this early Is flying high Because this Pittsburgh Penguins are up 3-1

In the Stanley Cup finals Are the chance of the clinch tonight At the Igloo? It's at the igloo Yeah I think everything coming up black and gold. I mean, Damasek is the winner,

but the real winners here are people like me who have been hoping for this segment to die from day one. It's dying a natural death. I got to get out of here. You're done. Frank's gone. He walks off. He has a corporate meeting.

Rendered irrelevant by Damashek owning the title. How much can we respect a sport that has that? Let's throw it over to Chris Wessling. Mark, how about you do the sideline interview with Wes, the losing player in today's game? Chris, you came right? down to the end, but in an unprecedented spot for you, how do you come back from this? Do you want to come back? Are you over? You're done?

That's the big news of the day. I do not want to come back from this. I'm going to announce my retirement. I just realized the passion isn't there anymore. They don't care whether I win or lose. I just don't care about that toaster. You realize that you're taking... You can't manufacture love. This is one of our Cornerstone podcast segments, and you're willing to let that just sail off. Well, you know, maybe people have come out of retirement before i i don't see it happening anytime soon you know no good comes out of that yeah i just i don't i don't see uh i don't see it as something i care about dan hanses here westwood one uh west you say that you don't care but i see it in your eyes it seems like

you're upset about how that played out i i don't ever like to lose it anything but i realized while you were asking the questions that i was just like last time i wasn't focused there was no burning intensity there i just don't really care one way or another about whether i have the Toaster or not? Post-toaster career plans for Chris Wesleyan. L-I-V-I-N. I think it's interesting that we don't even interview the two-time champion. Well, now we just go right.

No, you throw it back to me. Okay. Dan, back to you at Westwood one. All right, I'm here with the champion. Now the defending, two-time defending toaster champion. How about you, Shaq? How say you, do you have more to prove or are you walking away as the champion? Well, I did it because of my generous soul.

I decided to let the long time and great champion of the sport try to reclaim his toaster. But with this victory, I think I've solidified my spot in history, as I've said before, not unlike back in the mid-90s. When I won my first Kinect 4 title, I won the World Championship in Kinect 4, that felt good because that was the inaugural competition and nobody could take that away from me.

But when it really started to mean something was when I won a second time, that you that then reaches another level two-time champ makes the bar even higher i think i quit well on my head here and uh and walk away you know so you're done champ yes i're out i have nothing left to prove in the sport myself i'm going to go and eat the most delicious piece of toast and wouldn't that be a neat turn what are the rules on uh on the sandwich bets what if i make west a grilled cheese with his old toaster is that wrong it has to be a high octane sandwich yeah that's the rule it has to be high oh it does okay well it's gonna be tasty i just right about what you're saying what you're saying yeah that is the code

i'll make you a delicious sandwich i don't think like a wonder bread uh grilled cheese counts as high octane well we'll figure all that out just so just a little hint we check cancannibal opened up a culver city location oh that needery delicious well your listeners surely know handsome hang codson and uh you know he and i on our culinary tour across these united states You guys have been occasional participants on our fine meals in football towns across these United States. Yes, cannibal we ate at in New York and were sent to heaven. They, in fact, served their specialty that night, pig's head.

And they said, a real pig? Who ones? And they said, oh, yes, it's great because all the textures are so different. The ear is so different than the snout, which melts in your mouth. Yeah, I can't get enough of that. That's not a cell job. The melt in your mouth is a snout of swine. All right, so yes, history was made here.

Chris Wesley announces his retirement from the toaster. Sheck, the champion also sounds like very close to making a final decision or, in fact, has. He will also retire, which means the toaster game could be over, but what an exciting way for it to go out. We should get out of here now because there's nothing else that can be said, Mark. No, I mean, this is kind of a historical moment in the podcast, and, you know, I want to take some time, just let it soak in. Okay, so this is Dan Hansa signing off for,

Mark Sessler. Who the Brown's taking a knot for? I'm sorry. No, it's fine. Helen Winslow, Saddle. I know. I just wanted to see if Sessler remember. Thank you.

Don't do that, sir. All right. We'll be back next week with three more episodes. This is Dan Hansa signing off for the Sizzler. Got him. Quiet storm. The mailman, Sheck, the Champine. And the toaster?

The toaster, the boss. And Titi behind the glass. Thanks for joining us again, baby. Until next week.