NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - MNF Recap & Cynthia's Super Computer

Episode Date: November 9, 2021

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal are joined by Cynthia Frelund to recap the matchup between the Steelers and Bears and look at playoff pictures in Cynthia's super computer. Colleen Wolfe joins to preview the TNF matchup between the Ravens and Dolphins. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I mean, that's his podcast. That's one of his many sub-podcasts. And yet, two stars, is it coming from Mark Sessler. No, in fact, I have co-teamed with Greg. That's true. Some illustrations to help promote the Courts of Thunder brand. I think someone in this room actually coined Courts of Thunder a couple years ago. So I'm bought in.

That's Mark as well. Mark is actually technically the only employee of Courts of Thunder. I am not. It's art. Our artist. I am completely disconnected from that IP. I just, I cannot do it. Well, that sounds like we know we're two stars might have.

When football came, when football arrived, there is no more tennis podcast. But the Jessel Nick and Rosenthal Vanity Project is rolling right. You know, you couldn't. You couldn't just let it go. You had to get your plugs in. Like, I'm not going to say that the throwback podcast is an evergreen show dedicated to a study of alternative rock music of the 1990s with me and my friend Bob Castro, which you can check out right now wherever you get your podcast.

I wouldn't do that. You don't need to mention. Absolutely. Anyway. It's not just about the music, it's about friendship. Speaking of friends, you've got one right here. Oh. She is, I mean, she's a star.

I mean, we're lucky to have her. Let's just start there. And she is on many a program, including power rankings on NFL Network, including Game Day Picks Live with Greg Rosenthal. She is Cynthia Freeland. Welcome back to the around the NFL. podcast. Thanks.

Glad to be here. Thanks for having me. Really going kind of with like the AMR type voice there. I mean, I just felt like it matched the, it really matched the, like the song in the background. Yes. That's what I was trying to do. You tonally nailed it. And that's a good sign for the rest of the show, I think.

The reason I always use that drop for guests, I, me and Ricky, shorthand, it's called sausage fingers because it's a YouTube clip of a man with, like, rotund fingers, like shredding beautifully and whenever we introduce a guest with the music what how they explain the music is a little bit of a window into who they are like i remember when kyle brant was on the show he's like oh yeah this is from silk stockings the old or red shoe diaries i think it was actually uh said the you see it is more like this is a chill i've seen like an 80s movie like tequila sunrise or something like that like it's you know like a dramatic scene like there's a big decision to be made and someone's contemplating it at the beach and like you know

Definitely at the beach. Exactly. You're painting a picture here. A less frenetic montage where there's a lot happening inside the head of the character. The turning point is on the way. Exactly. It's like just sitting at like, you know, next to the lifeguard station just maybe in 80s. So they were probably smoking a cigarette.

But, you know. And we also know from talking with Cynthia, we don't need to dig into this further that that particular player. Yeah. With the rotund fingers. Sausage fingers. She would be very, she would be fine with them. Well, no. No.

Yeah. Cindy doesn't like a man with small fingers. Well, just that's a small hands is a. It's a deal breaker if you're in the market for a Cynthia Freeland. By the way, you should have seen... Wish you're not. That's a bad. You should have seen Greg's eyes light up when I mentioned Red Shoe Diaries.

He's like, which episode, which season? Is it the David Duccoveny years? Is it the app with Matt LeBlanc in it? Anyway, apparently I know a lot about that, bro. Yeah, that's a big real. Listen, I was a teen boy in the 90s. I'll leave it there. Now, why is Cynthia Freeland here?

It's not to talk about little hands. It's not to talk about soft core... soft core pornography on Cinemax. It is to talk about the midpoint of the season, although you're welcome to talk about any of those things. We call it today's conversation. Cindy's pretty hate machine. Listen to this little nine-ish nail speaking of 90s,

alternative rock. As you look into, you have a machine that you use that compiles data. You're very talented in this realm. And we want to know as we turn toward the second half of the season, which teams are about to rise up and grab playoff spots and who are some of the

playoff position teams that are going to fall out is the machine going to help us there? Yes. The model. Has all the answers. The funny part is like,

like, I just want to know something. Do you think, like, what do you think that it like looks like? Do you think that like the machine tells me what to do? Is it like Terminator? Is it come to a lot? Like, how do you think this works?

Like, how does this work in your head? I think at one point you did mention that it was in your bedroom. So I imagine there to be, like remember during the Cold War, when the USA and USSR would have dueling supercomputers to figure out who could, I picture that, like a 1970 supercomputer that takes up 75% of your bedroom space.

Well, it does heat me in the winter, so that helps me out. Smells that true? It comes out of it, like, when there's like a crazy pick six, just like, upon your last visit, I think I actually requested, and this was pre-corona years ago, and I understand that you, you know, we've all been distracted, but for a photograph of set motherboard and whatever it looks like,

and still waiting for that. I'll get it for you. I'm sorry. I totally forgot. It's literally like, it's not as, it's going to make Dan upset. I got to, like, maybe you could draw, like, I'll send it to you

and you could draw a rendition of it. Because I don't want to upset Dan because it's not that, like, exciting looking. It's a computer. It looks like a, like a. But it's, you don't want it shared. It would be secret information. Well, it's a, like, you can't see anything, right?

Like, it's like a tower. It's a few towers. It's just the point of having the towers is so you have more RAM, meaning it can go fast. So then the models will take like a week to produce results. I mean, you run 300,000 projections for each remaining game. So it takes a long time. So you need a lot of RAM.

It's just an excuse so that when it picks a game that like Cynthia doesn't totally agree with, she's like, oh, the model did it. I mean, I programmed the model. So I'm the brain of the computer. So it's really all my fault. It's just tries to make it so that it's like, you know, not biased. So we're going to talk about Cindy's pretty hate machine. We're going to hit the Thursday night football previews.

We look ahead to week 10, Baltimore at Miami. We're going to hit Monday night football, the recap. But I just want to get one thing, one more thing as we set the table for today's show. Mark, apologies again. The situation with Chris Rose on Sunday was unfortunate that Greg and I brought it up. That we thought that you were short. Made it up. We thought that you were being short with Chris about his Browns excitement when he rolled over to our area.

And you said things like, I don't think they're very good. And then you came on our show and you were like so happy about the Browns. It was like, why didn't Chris get the scene? It wasn't so much like the length, but the lack of enthusiasm, just like, I'm not going to meet you where you are, Chris Rose. You guys practice this before the show your little... And you're going to say, oh, Dan, another manufacturer joke. This isn't real. This is absolutely real.

I've gotten to know Chris a little better this year during the season, and we exchanged phone numbers at one point. And I actually got this voicemail late last night. Hey, this is Tugbo. You know the drill. It's Chris Rose from NFL Network. Hope you're doing well. I need a little advice here. day I walked past you and Sessler and Greg and I wanted to talk to Mark about the

Browns and he just kind of blew me off so I don't I don't know why he was short with me I don't know if there's something going on if he's pissed off or what I was hoping to then talk to him during the Sunday night game when we all watch together in the theater and he wasn't there and you weren't there and Greg with two G's was the only one there and I don't know why it's two G's but anyway so I don't know if you could maybe call me back and shed a little light on this. I mean, Mark and I have been buddies, I thought, for a few years, and it took, like, all the strength in the world to not walk past him

and make fun of that really ridiculous cheesy mustache he was trying to grow out. Oh, wow. This is going into a surprising direction. But anyway, you just get a chance. Give me a call so we can talk it out because I really, I'm kind of hurt by it all. Thanks, man. I mean, again, not manufactured. That was a real voicemail.

Sounds organic. Speak on it. No, I mean, you know, friendships. I have been friends with Chris Rose for a long while at this point. Could have fooled us. Well, shared interests, but friendships go through different phases. And there's challenging phases. There's like we have to grow.

And maybe this is a point of growth for me. I'm not always going to argue you guys when you create these things. In this case, I'm saying maybe it was real. I am learning now that I impact some people maybe the wrong way at times. and, you know, check yourself at the door. Cindy, as someone like, as an outsider on this, what's your take? I mean, I've been to a lot of therapy. Yeah.

So I thought his response was like just really like, I mean, Mark's just like a big man. Like that's like a very smart, like very educated, very, you know, empath like a lot of empathy, a lot of like emotional maturity there. Yeah. Will I put it into action? That's part B. Where was the empathy on Sunday night? Right. Wasn't there.

It was a lot of hitting out. It was a lot of pushing back. It is an interesting window though. You mean, you talked about points of. relationships that Chris and Dan are at the point where Chris is now leaving long voicemails to Dan, like regular. Why did you send him to voicemail if you guys are so close? I was taping power rankings, that's why. Got it.

Yeah. It's the minute you get Dan involved, things become destabilized with friendship, the first part of the friendship. So just you got to be aware of that. All right. I'm just caught in the middle, as usual. All right. There we go. That's what's going on with that. And we'll keep you updated the listeners if that could be repaired that relationship. I just want also, like, point out, like, Chris Rose and I are really close. He, like, actually, like, tweeted a photo or, you know, Instagram story to photo of me on Sunday. So I could, I'm going to check up with him. In 2021, that is the greatest indicator of true friendship.

Obviously. Let's check out some Monday night football put a bow on week nine. The snap is down. The kick is on its way, long enough, high enough. That kick is good. Boswell, an incredible night at Hinesfield, has put the Steelers on top. with 26 seconds to go. Oh my goodness.

Are the Steelers good? I'm really not sure, but they won the game. They did, 2927. Over the Bears, a Chicago Bears team, Cynthia Freeland, that put up a fight that was in danger of getting blown out of that building early. But with their young quarterback, threw for 288 yards in a touchdown in the second half. They battled and battled and battled and battled.

Took the lead. And then there's Big Ben and the offense, getting that last drive to score and win the game. Where do you come down on Steelers after watching this particular game? My first note is I never want to see Ben Rothesberger run again, ever. Not once ever. I was so, I was like, wow. You're talking about that last designed run where he thought he was about to have his John Elway moment

and kind of fight through that tackle. And he looked like, like, It was like there was mud on the field suddenly, and he was so slow. It was, I was shocked. I can't even imagine the force it would take to make Big Ben helicopter. He's more like one of those giant aircraft carriers. There's just, you're not going to spin him. No.

No. Anyway, go ahead. I think we see a really interesting thing about the Chicago Bears offense, meaning I think Justin Fields is finally starting to take that step forward. It seemed like at least he could recognize zone defense a little bit better and was able to find and connect with his receivers. in zone. And that's hard to see. It's not easy when you got, man to man is way easier for rookie quarterbacks to be able to pick up on zone defense. It's a little trickier. There are

bigger holes in it, but throwing your receiver open then becomes more important, which means Justin Fields is now taking a step forward and recognizing the defense a little bit better. So that's interesting. I also think there were some really strange penalties in that game. That's kind of my like overall, my overall takeaway. Right. The penalties, I'm sure we'll get to, but Fields, even though they lost, felt like the biggest story. And I think he took a couple of lessons from his first four or five starts.

Also that, like to run right into Devin Bush, I was like, why are you doing that? That you don't want to do. No. But for the most part, his instinct the last two weeks, when the throws aren't there to run decisively, have helped them out. And they've picked up a lot of first downs or picked up six or seven yards.

His best two games of the season are easily the last two. I think he was, what, nine for 15 on throws over 10 yards. His deep throws were great. And he kept going for it from the pocket. Like, if you're a Bears fan, it's almost the perfect situation, according to the Bears fans, I know,

which is that they want Nagy gone, but they want Fields to be the truth, which is a hard thing to balance. So you got the best of both worlds here because their defense at the end of that game is what lost the game is total coaching meltdown in that field goal drive where the players were absolutely confused.

So Fields looks good. The coaching's still bad. You get both. You get both. I don't know if I trust Bears ownership to understand the divide between Matt Nagy's either helpfulness or lack of helpfulness and what Justin Fields is as someone that's becoming, especially over the last two weeks, more comfortable, more daring due, using his athleticism, his legs. And I thought last night, ripping the ball a couple times, getting Alan Robinson involved for the first time on that team in roughly two decades. That would have been a touchdown if Robinson didn't get hurt at the end of the game. Jimmy Graham also showed up. Jimmy Graham was there on the field.

Who knew the past came to the future? I think you have hope as a Bears fan, and it doesn't really matter the results of these games down the stretch. In fact, it would be better if they lost a bunch of more games to clear house. Yeah, I think, I don't know, with Bears ownership, I think they understand what's going on here. The Nagy's a guy that's on the ropes, and Bill Laser, his having greater control of the play calling

is now connecting to Justin Fields looking better. And also, by the way, rookie quarterbacks just get better typically if they're the real deal as the season goes along. So I think that's what we're seeing. That's exciting. There was some money throws by fields there. And on the Pittsburgh side of things, they're really a tough team to get a handle of.

You got T.J. Watt, and he's doing his T.J. Watt thing. Good. He's great. You still have that. You still have that Heinz Field, home field advantage, and that's a great thing, too. But I just feel like this offense, put it this way. I thought they were cooked after they lost the lead. I didn't think the offense was going to be able to get it done.

And I think Chicago's defense, with all the errors and mental errors really, bailed him out in a lot of ways. They didn't know a coverage as they were in a couple of those plays. There was clear confusion among players. I think the Steelers are a team because they're well coached and they have these big time players dotted throughout the roster. We'll get to the nine or ten wins that might get them into the playoffs.

But I just don't see them as that kind of upper tier AFC team. I do think, though, like against Cleveland and, you know, we all saw the photos, the film coming out of that, the offensive line, which was a disaster early on meshed against Cleveland. And I think they continue to grow. And that's what you want to ride that because it's not, the offense has changed a little bit.

It's transformed. I mean, they're months away from needing a quarterback of their own. Right. This big Ben season, it's almost charming. Like,

he's giving it as off. No, I mean, I hate it. As a person, I've never, like, I've never been on board. No.

What I'm trying to say is. And trying to make him charming with that sideline thing. This is my daughter trying to think, uh-uh. No. The worst. He did the thing where he, that Ben's laugh as we've,

you know, featured on the show. show over the years. It's very, like, when they asked him, he was like, how are you feeling? You know, when, uh, you watched Justin Fields go up, he was like, I was feeling a little nervous. And it's just like, are you not a person? But like, he's giving it as all.

Like, I saw, I don't want to steal the joke. But when, when he threw that, that deep shot to Deonti Johnson, and someone said it looked like he was trying to hit a 300 yard drive with an eight iron or something. Like, he put his back into that throw. And like, we learned how far he can throw it at this point, which is about 45 yards. and like they're doing the best they can't i don't think their defense is quite good enough to make up for big ben i mean they had a chance to close out that game in the fourth quarter and they couldn't do it and they got bailed out uh two other names pat friarmouth i got a feeling mark that guy's going

to annoy you for a while i mean like seven to ten years i'm already annoyed he annoyed me last week and he continues he's a badass like every touchdown he has is amazing that he's just going to make big place return on investment in that draft pick and cash is marsh oh i'm sorry dude i am so sorry and you look badass in the press conference, and kudos to you for looking the way that you do. But, like, come on. And this is a big story right now. Everyone's talking, speaking out on it. Mike Tomlin even, like, got out there and said, hey, we're just trying to clean the game up,

he said. He's a member of the competition committee. We embrace the responsibility that comes with being the role models that we are. Well, I don't know, Mike. If it happened, the other way, the shoe was on the other foot. I don't know if you're making that quote today. That was a BS call on Marsh. And the way the official kind of backed into him through the flag.

Tony Correnti. What are we doing? What are we doing? And he said he felt it was taunting. Anytime that the official has to use the words, I felt that it's using so much subjectivity. We've seen the NFL course correct on some of these rules emphasis points midway through seasons before. They don't announce it publicly, but suddenly, remember the other season when they just stopped calling holding after everyone was upset? Right.

And there has been a couple ones like this with the catch rule. I think it's time. I was hoping as I was watching that, that maybe this will be. be the moment where they're like, let's back off the taunting. It needs to happen in these prime time teams. This might be a flashpoint. Right. And he called it a point. All he did was. The first he said was it's a point of emphasis. It's like

come on. It was a great football moment. You know, he gets that. He spent the practice and the offseason there. He was there on their preseason team. Right. So he, so in a sense that like goes to Carrenti's point that he felt like it was something because in a way it was. He just was looking over at the other sideline. But like,

it's an emotional game. That was a beautiful moment. Like, you cut me. I just made this play. It'd be nice if the ESPN booth, who had another rough night, like had that and could provide that context to the listener because none of us knew it or were knowing that at the time. But, like, that helped explain everything that happened.

That's why you listen to the radio. There's a really great radio calls on that. You just watch it and you time it up. When it was, and hit pause, it's great. I didn't want to say this, but you brought it up, Brady. When it's 26, 26,

after the Bears touchdown to tie it, and the Steelers go offside on the extra, point and Greasy starts saying out loud, hmm, maybe it'll go for two here. Bro, it's 2626. I mean, I think he checked himself after, but you're absolutely. But I mean, it's the high bar because you're the Monday night football guy. The Steve Levy called where he made the whole country think it went off the crossbar. And I've heard people go like, well, it looked like it.

But he's in the stadium. That's the advantage of being in the stadium. Don't watch the monitor. They're killing me. They're killing me. Well, that's why you got to listen to the radio. And my last thing, in the NBA, for instance, in like the playoffs, the referees put the whistle in their pocket unless they really have to call it.

You let the players figure out these big moments on a third down sack where you're getting off the field in a close game. Oh my God, you've got to look the other way, currently. All right. There we go, Monday Night Football. By the way, I have to give Cash as Martin's some credit. They kept that camera on him and he did not. Like, I thought he was going to cry for a minute. And then he like pulled it together and he like really like, you saw him like dig pretty deep there

to find some composure. So I don't know. I like that story. Like if I made a practice squad and then I made it like a crazy insane play and then I looked at them and did I probably would have cried. Also, his coach ripped him up as he came out of the field.

And then he came back and apologized because he was like, oh yeah. And that was nice to see too. Anyway. But yeah. No, I appreciated that. Like a moment of like grace.

And good for you. And I've heard people say, well, at least it didn't like change how the, it totally changed how the end of the game went. Like it would have been a total of different ending. The amount. And that's what I wish people would have talked about more. You talk about analytics.

the analytics of the time on that are you totally change the difference how much time would have been left for then you know the bears who showed that they could score very quickly they would have had another drive not just that last with the time analytics i love it that's a segue baby time all right let's pause right here for a break we'll be right back what's up everybody daniel jeremiah here and i'm bucky brooks on move the sticks we take you inside the game from scouting reports and player development to team building philosophies Coaching trends and how front offices construct winning rosters. Every week, we study the tape, talk to decision makers, and share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots, from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig in the coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a diehard fan or just love understanding the game.

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Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. Cynthia Freeland. Screaming time for no other than go. Her pretty hate machine. It's in a room. I see it as a giant Cold War supercomputer. I don't need to hear anything else. And that's, you know, when we're thinking about, okay, first half of the season, virtually, it's over. Now, we look ahead. Let's talk about it. Greg, Mark,

you could throw out some teams that you feel one way or the other about, whether they're about the surge or fall off. But I'd like, like to start with Cynthia, when you ran it through your model, were there any teams that really jumped out to you that are going win way or the other? Let's start. We'll start wherever you want. Well, I think ahead of the season, I think we were all, I mean, look, a little shocked. The Patriots, no one know what to do with. Fringe potentially, you know, maybe make the play. And now

it's going to be very hard for them not to make the playoffs. And the AFC is a very, a much better conference. Just that's, you know, the middle of the AFC is stronger than the NFC, the guys at the top are great. And then the ones at the bottom are the lions. So ultimately, the differential between the two is very big, you know, take out the Jags and take out the C. It's going to be hard to get that seven, six and seven. It's going to be in the AFC than it is going to be in the NFC.

And it's interesting. And then the other one that's like really quite interesting to me is, you know, I don't know. When I looked ahead of the season, I really, I would, I was very, I thought that the Colts, would be stronger, and I think we're going to see them push up higher. I think they had an unfortunate beginning to the season. Injuries plagued them, and I do think that they're going to end up making a later season. What do you have wind totals, projected wind totals? All right.

What are the Colts and the Pats, former rivals? Okay, so, well, I got an article coming out later on this. Spoiler alert. Well, we can embargo the show until it's, no, yeah, embargo the show. Or we can tell you that we're going to embark. Or this is like the best promotion possible for that article. possible. Right now, Patriots have a 54% chance of making the playoffs, which, by the way, I'm pretty conservative. You know that guy. Greg knows, like, some of these win projection models get, like, wild, and that's just not the case, right? So, and that means they're most likely going to be either. So it's 9.7, which is 10.

I love it. Like, obviously, it's a model, so it's never going to be perfectly the number. Okay. People get very mad about, 7 games. Exactly. People get really mad about, like, fraction or. game. But you have to remember my point here that the AFC, the middle of the AFC is stronger. The point seven matters, right? So you just look at the order more than you have to look. So what about the cults? The

Colts? So I've got Colts here. Can I guess? Yeah, of course. You have the Colts at, because they got a hole to dig out of here. I think you've got the Colts at 9.3. Anyone else? You pitched them as sort of spicy a minute ago, so I'm going to go

9.6. You got it. Oh! It's pretty good, Mark. I'm your computer on the check. He wins. 9.6, all right. So that could get, so that could get the men. Remember, these are very, these are small.

And it's based on the schedule. Correct. And remember, they also have the advantage of playing, you know, they have a division that's pretty, that's pretty. But that makes sense. So they're going to win nine or ten games. The pats are, they feel like a 10 and 17 right now. I'd like that.

How about the other side? So those, and the way the AFC is set up, it's so wild right now. It's so out of control. It feels so fluid that I do think, I think a 9 and 8 can get you in. There's basically 12 teams. If you eliminate the Jets, Jags, Dolphins and Texans. Just remember, they have the Colts have the Jags twice still, one more Texans. So there's three games right there.

And that's where the Steelers struggle. If you look at their schedule after this Lions, at least in Vegas, they probably would be underdogs for their last eight games. Yeah, I only have them favored against the Vikings. It's very close. That's the last one where they're close to favorites. Like the Jaguars Buffalo outcome is a perfect example. The EFSI seems so strange right now that looking at a schedule and going, this is going to work, this is going to work, this won't work.

It just feels like it's a fool's error. And that's why you need the machine to step in and give a little more data to figure it out. Here, I'm going to make you an analogy of what the machine does, right? It's bad English. So you guys who actually know grammar like this is not the right English. But like there's overwhelmed and there's underwhelmed. Like all I'm trying to figure out is what that line is. It's like, what's whelmed, right?

So, like, you can say, okay, I think it's more than that or less than that. Like, overpaid and underpaid, well, what's paid? Got it. Can I ask the NFC team? Yeah. Because, like, I wanted this. Well, let's guess the number two. Let's keep doing that.

Yeah, and I want to know the process because a team like the Saints that I think have been, like, kind of battling our expectations. Strange. Very strange. And so what do you do with your, with the supercomputer when, like, let's say, so James goes down, you're dealing with Trevor Simeon, you're getting a little bit of Tayson Hill in there. The defense is rising. Like, I trust them to be really well coached.

Like, where do you see him winding up and how do you, how does your process change when, like, chaos occurs to human beings? The good news about the Saints is that despite being chaotic, you mentioned it. The coach is very, like, Sean Payton's one of my favorite to track because he's got, he's very, um, reliably aggressive or non-aggressive. It's situationally very, he's a very consistent human being over time. He doesn't change his coaching strategy very often. you see it you kind of know when you're watching you can feel oh this is a taste of

management too he is always is the same then it's always the same get like a grade or a number from you that you plug in like how do you see i just like consistency like be who you are then i can model you easier do you adjust from jamis downward to simian or how does that work yeah like look we have a lot of simian data though it's not like i'm going from uh mike white exactly from mike white to josh anyways so it doesn't even matter there but so we do have, that one's not the hardest one I've had to do this season so far, especially with a good defense and their defense has stayed very consistent year over year in terms of who the players are. When you have a lot of turnover, it makes it more difficult.

9.8. For the, for the, I'm going to, I'll guess, I'll guess 10.1 because I, doing game debut with you every week, I know which teams the model loves, which is often, but not always, uh, teams that Vegas loves. And to that point, like the, the saints are barely an underdog. Let's in Tennessee this weekend against Simeon. So I'm going high and I'm going 10.1. I'll go 10.2 to get closer if you went above. Yeah. That's kind of cheating. I stole my info. Remember I

told you how there's the ones that have like that they don't ever land on the normal number? Yeah. It's 10. Okay. And you guys went over. No, I got right. Price is right rules. No, price is right rules. No, you can't say the rules. Let's be clear.

Let's be clear. It's good when I give my numbers before Vegas gives theirs. I'm not trying to. No, no. Group you together. No, no, no, no. My point is, it is good, but it's good. Vegas is way better at my job than me.

We do the same thing. You're pulling from similar dad. Don't say that out loud, though. That's, like, that's great. She knows what she's doing. No, but my point is, is when the things end up the same, people on Twitter are like, oh, you're just copying the Vegas numbers. I'm like, no, no, your girl's getting good at this because she's, they're better,

then they're better than me at it. And they've been doing it for longer. Do you want to honk about being right about the Cardinals all year? Because you've had them as one of the very best teams in the NFL. from week one. It's probably why you're leading our picks competition on game debut.

More than anything, it's just getting the Cardinals right week after. And do you have them continuing to be this good? Yes, but they're not my Super Bowl team. They're not my Super Bowl. Why do you think the models like

the Cardinals so much all year and been right about them? Well, I had them as a risky team either I was going to be very, very, they were either be very good or go very poorly because they were expanding their play book in such a way where if you know everyone's talking about

kiler murray how does he execute this this and this well they got a little bit lucky with some raiders exodus from their old line getting rodney hudson there in the last minute because that was it's really interior pressure that makes a lot huge difference for kailer murray now does colt mccoy help out with this no it makes it way harder but i do have a number of colt data points to to refer to but interior pressure and and also no i love colmicoe too He named his son after Coat McCoy. Which is perfect. Baby Pony, I love it.

So, but long story short is like, you know, like after they stopped rolling out only that like, basically the bootleg where he goes off to his right and spins all the way around. Like, once they added more to the playbook, I'm like, well, if they can keep the interior pressure from being too, which is why you see the difference when Hudson's playing when he's not, very big difference for him. And also, they got him a bunch more playmakers. I mean, AJ Green obviously hasn't played in a couple of games. But when he's out there, it creates a lot more space for DeAndre Hopkins. when he's healthy. And Christian Kirk has been the beneficiary of that. And now they've got Zach Ertz.

And, you know, when JJ Watt was healthy for the two minutes, he was helpful to them. So, you know, and I love the way that they create space with their safeties. I love Buda Baker. I will, I'm a, like, unapologetic Buddha Baker lover. And Isaiah Simmons is taking a big step forward, too. So, you know, there. Squad, could be a Super Bowl. Let me.

But only if it all fit. Not your Super Bowl team, though. They're not my Super Bowl. Stick a pin in that. I don't, I hate my Super Bowl team. I'm going to throw, oh, that's interesting. I'm going to throw another volatile team in the AFC out there, a team that I'm trying to make sense of.

A lot has happened around this team this year. They've been up, they've been down back up. The Raiders. Yeah, impostors. So they've gotten exceptionally lucky because for their first few games, like the first eight games that they played, they got an over 30% pressure percentage against opposing quarterbacks. If you have sustained pressure for that long,

then you're absolutely going to do some damage. and congratulations, Max Crosby, that, like, extra X, like, really works out for you. But the problem is, is they have on the other side, they don't have a very reliable running execution, even, and I mean that with, like, short passes to you, a screen passes. Most coaches consider those running, you know, running downs for kind of the way that they think it through. They don't have consistency there. And, you know, they don't, and I like Derek Hart, it's absolutely nothing against him. But when you don't have an O line, it is hard to, an O line that consistently can keep. keep you from harm's way.

It's just hard to have long-term sustained wins. Like, they're just like Vegas. High risk, high reward, but it could go terribly wrong as well. I see them as 9 and 8, but I think your model is going to have them at 8.4. It's, I'll have to look at. Wow. It's closer. It is under 9.

It is under 9. But remember, again, big. Because they're already at 5 and 3. So somewhere in the 8s is. That's another crumble job. Nothing short of a disaster. Yeah, but they've got the next three, Chiefs, Bengals, Cal, And then I have a win for Washington, then Chiefs, Browns, Broncos, Colts, Chargers, like, the rest of their schedule is not very nice to them.

We'll get to it Thursday, but to me, this Chiefs Raiders game is, is fascinating. Super fascinating. Especially because they've played. Mark, you got well. I have a quick one. And we'll keep it brief. The Lions are, do you have about them? That's your team, but do you see them?

They're not my team. I hate them. They're my team to hate. They're in your blood. Emotionally, which I appreciate. Do you have them like as like zero point? Like, are they hovering towards that, oh, in 17 seasons for the first time? The model's got to give them a W.

They've got to be 2.3. The model had them beating the Eagles a couple weeks ago. Do you know how mad I was about that? I hated it. They were, they could run it for like five minutes. Oh, that's why you're so mad at them. Is it, is your computer, does it grow disobedient at times? And, like, is it rebellion against you on some level with that result?

Mark wants to know, how do you punish the computer when it becomes disobedient? See, that's the script of words, right? like the funny part here is it's all actually like I name it after like I'll put in random things like some years it'll be like uh random 80s rockers other years it'll be and it's all name things that I can't so I can't look at it because I have to make some corrections. There'll be errors in the code and I don't want to know because I do like certain teams more than other teams like teams like teams like I do. You're darn right. I like them better than I like the jets. I like them better than other teams like so I don't want to be biased in any way possible. So it's all you can name them next year. I'll let you name them next year. I'll let you name. name and it just randomly assigns to be part of the process on that level perfect yes so when you when you have it do it like anonymously and you have to do these air fixes so then you're not like fixing you know because sometimes the the reason that my model is like valuable more than like just random numbers is like I'll ask coaches for real context so I'll be like what happened here and be like the safety was in the wrong spot or the quarterback didn't see the you do it didn't pick up

or the running back didn't pick up the blitz or something so great so you can put in something there with like real people who do these things. And then like when my PhD people from when this is why I still paying for my my master's degree right because you know I won't want to take out loans and two because then I can go back and be like these PhD people who don't care about football

they can be like your math's wrong here fix it here so it gets better every week. But what are what do you got the lines at? 1.4. Okay. Jerks. Well that will feel fair. What a celebration when they get that second when they get that point. Congratulations. There are officially not great

quarterbacks in this upcoming draft class. And the Lions will continue to be terrible. Could have had Justin Fields. Could have had a lot of people. Let's not pile on. All right. We only have a few more minutes with you, Cynthia. Not you, the Lions.

Oh, they can deserve it. There's not kneecaps to bite. By the way, when I was there for, so first Bill's preseason game was at Ford Field. And like, I was happy, oh, because Ford Field is a great field and I'm from Michigan in the summer in Michigan's great. Like an hour before the game started, all of a sudden you see like this coach, like throw fit. and he takes his headset, throws it off on the lion's side.

Then he goes storming off the field. And, like, I walk over like, what happened? Like, oh, they fired their strength and conditioning coach, like, 90 minutes before the game. And I was like, why? What? When was this? This is the first preseason game. And then I was like, that's weird.

So I'm like Googling it and whatever. And I'm not reporting because I'm on the bill side and no one cares. And then they play their starters against the bill's third string until the fourth quarter. I kid you not. And they lost. What a weird. What a story. Like, this is going to be a great season, guys.

All right, okay, before you go, you said you don't like your Super Bowl pick. So before Cynthia tells us who it is, with that information of mine, let's take a guess. The model, the model, who it is easy to guess? All right, I was going to say the Packers. What about you, Greg? You're saying both? Do we pick a ball pick? Oh, no, I like my, I like the Bills.

Your Bills, then are yours. That was just a guess. I'm going to say that the Bucks that you don't like. I like the Bucks. I love Todd Boles. You know that. Okay. I don't like, I think Packers is very strong,

but just for the sake of variety, I'll go Rams. It's the Packers. Oh! I want nothing to do. Like, I'm mad that, like, my preseason, or my preseason said Packers, Chiefs, and now mid-season, it's Packers, Bills, and I'm... So are you, because the Chiefs and Bills...

Is that partly because they're going to get the one seat, sorry? Well, before last week, it wasn't going to be the Packers, and then the Rams lost, and then, like, some weird stuff happened last week, And then, of course, the week before, the Saints beat the buck. So I was like, come on. Give me something that I like. So this like Chiefs, bills, everybody's grouping them together about how the defenses are strategizing and slowing down the attack. I guess the model says Brian Daible and the bills are going to figure this out and get back on track.

Otherwise, how are they going to get to the big dance? I mean, I'm concerned about it when I watched that game on Sunday in the last, you know, a few weeks with this team. They're a reason to be. Absolutely. It's really really come down to pressure on the quarterback. That's what happened in the Pittsburgh game. That's what happened in this last game against the Jags. Early pressure.

So what Brian Dables on, he almost didn't run the ball at all in the first half. I think two runs, like that's it. Like Josh Allen scrambled a few times, but those aren't running designed runs in any way, right? So it's interesting. I'm curious to see like what's going out of the running backs

because it's going to be, it's really going to come down to you for this team. Can they keep Josh Allen from getting pressured, especially early in the game? because we've seen a few slow starts for the bill. So if they don't have like the, if they can't get it going right away, then it's going to be difficult for them to

to kind of pick up the pace at the end because of that pressure. So it really comes down to offensive pressure. No, we don't have models, but, um, but you can see it. We were asked by our editor, Janaro, we are on Monday to send in our new predictions for the season.

So I wanted to check in, check in with, with you guys to see, did you actually send, send it back? I know Dan's busy on Mondays. I made time on Monday and did it. Nice.

Nice as well. What did you guys go with as your Super Bowl? So my move here, number one, is like, it's, I didn't put it through a model. I kind of said, I want to do something that I don't think anyone else will do. Ooh, I like it. And it will get, you know. That's how you had the dolphins winning the AFC East going into the season. Clearly not a model there.

But I have the Cardinals, which feels secure. It feels like I'm observing the sport on some level. Smart, dude. Over the Patriots. who I think are going to rise up and do something super spicy, but it's really just to get the... I decided it's too late to back out. I think it's a coward's move to change your pick.

So even though I think the Chiefs are all sorts of issues, I didn't bail, I picked them before the season. I'm sticking with the Chiefs to figure this out, and it becomes a big story. They beat the Packers. See, I only change it if it's totally necessary, but then this is the first time I've changed the Super Bowl pick, but I changed two of the playoffs.

I had to take the Dolphins out of the playoffs. I had the Bucks Bucks over the Ravens I mean Greg and I had the both had the 49ers We both had the 49ers Are you saying we should publish that again? I know but I said I was happy I kept

I kept my 10 of the 12 playoff teams I removed the 49ers and dolphins threw in the chargers in the Guess what Mark I still have the Browns in the playoffs Just like I did in August I like Rosenthal Oh I put the Browns in now too

So I guess I'd reinserted them in That's who I put in for the dolphins Yeah Well, some of us had it from the jump. Come on. I wish I could do like split my personality because like my gut versus like sometimes I look at these and I'm like I don't want to make that pick but like it's my own head whatever.

And sometimes it sometimes it's right and sometimes it lets me down right. Like it's sometimes I did not want to pick the Panthers last week but my model said it because they had they had some, you know, they have some positive indicators when Christian McCaffrey's on the field. I didn't like that when you did that. Bill Belichick ruins everything. I didn't like it either. When you ran, you put the.

put this little graphic up on game debut when she does the Survivor picks 300,000 simulations. That's a lot. And the Panthers were somehow like going to be the better scene. It's like machine versus and Greg is just a man and like your machine versus Greg's madness. Look, sometimes you got to go with

if they, neither one's right, you know? You got to, and this week has like some of the most upsets we've seen in like this season actually two weird things like away teams are winning more often than typical like a normal season. And you know, in terms of those Vegas odds or whatever we're allowed to say or not

I don't whatever. I'm not to say that. Okay, whatever Vegas odds, there's been way more upsets of both like you've seen a lot of like the line get totally blown up like further from the standard deviation. That's probably an off limits word just because it's bad than normal too, right?

We just don't know what it means. Yeah, the math talk's getting a little above the old sea line now. But Cynthia Freeland, you've said it all. All of it. You check it, check her out on Game Day view on a Network on Fridays, Power Rankings, Game Day Morning on Sundays.

You name the show. Fantasy Live quite a bit. Fantasy Live. All over the place. I feel like my like hourly rates like probably under minimum wage now. Put that in the machine and then send it upstairs. All right. Cynthia Freeland, thank you very much.

Thanks for having me. There she goes. All right. Stay right here. We're going to take a break. We'll be right back. What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here.

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Collin comes storming through the door and leaves a dent in a wooden wall. Uh-oh. It's not it's not Colleen's music It's Bianca Miss Jonas Miss Jonas Miss Jonas brother

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And now we're going to welcome you And how are you by the way I'm great This chair is very high I think it's just because I'm short So my legs aren't touching the ground They're just swinging around Like a child

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Thursday night football right now Connie Baltimore Ravens at Miami Dolphins So you get to go down to Miami That's good Miami Miami Oh yeah Tell us about this game

You do your tireless research. What are you feeling about this one? Just like after doing all of this research, I'm just so psyched out of my mind to see Justin Tucker in person. Oh, I can't wait. It's a tough spot because you replace Cynthia Freeland, who's like putting 82,000 million reams of data into a computer each day. So I know your research is equal of that.

There's no doubt about it. But yeah, watching Justin Tucker warm up. I've done that before. That's a show in itself. Oh, yeah. see him drill it from 65. Have you ever in your time on TNF had a kicker? No.

Come on. This is the greatest kicker of all time. The problem that we have here is that the dolphin stink and Tua might not be playing. So the chances that it comes down to a Tucker kick are slim, but not nil because primetime games are weird, especially Thursday night games. But can you get in the ear of the producers? If it does come down to it, Tucker is, he's a well-spoken guy, he's got some charisma, he's an opera singer. I'm going to sing. There's pop. Let's go after Justin Tucker if we can.

You know, I was thinking about this during the Seahawks Rams Thursday night game when we had the double punt. And I was like, why don't we get, what is it, Michael Badgley? I don't know. Honey, yeah, the Money Badger. Yeah, so I was like, why don't we get him on the dais? Like, that would be fantastic. We did not. We got Matthew Stafford.

Now that you've pitched the Money Badger, I feel like it's going to be the girl that cries wolf. When we go to them with the kicker again, they're going to be like, like, well, Colleen, that's... I know. I got to pick my spots. It's like the other burly football men on that set. Are they not going to respect to kicker? Is that the issue?

No, kickers are people too. I think you feel that way. I think even like the real burly football men respect Justin Tucker, though. Because I think everyone realizes he's... Plus, if you can get Lamar and they win, then that's who you want. But it could be a game-winning kick because that's the kind of games the Ravens play. That's true. Fourth quarter comeback.

for them for gay i know i hear you but their last second wins are against too the chiefs of course they're a good team the lions the colts you know and the vikings not exactly a murderer's row of teams that they had to you know come from behind to be they're always in a second half deficit too it just feels like their slow starts are something that they need to change and i don't know i don't know how they fix that but this team is super resilient and lamar jackson he's able to do it with his arm. He's able to do it on the ground. And we saw it again against the Vikings when they were down by 14. But Hollywood Brown, he's also having a breakout season, has six touchdowns already this year. And I just feel like it says a lot about this team that they're

able to win the games that they've won and the way that they've done it with all of the injuries that they've had this season. Well, here's the thing with the Ravens, because when people like Cynthia with their data machines and then you look at things like DVOA and all that stuff's good. And it shows, it spits out numbers that say the Ravens aren't actually that good. And it kind of annoys me because it doesn't factor into me, Lamar Jackson, and why he's just a cheat code for their offense. He's like the ultimate fixer. He is. And I see it week after week in the way he just kind of got them back into that game against the Vikings, a game that it felt like they were in a lot of trouble. They got back into the game before halftime and then give up a 97-yard

kickoff return, but they keep fighting, they keep fighting, and they're just a team that I think just finds away. I know that's not analytical, but they just are. That's who the Ravens are under John Harbaugh. But that is, when you have someone like Lamar Jackson, like it's going to defy numbers and all our beloved DVOA data and everything else,

there are a team that piled up 36 first downs in that Vikings game, and the NFL record is 40. I mean, they just, and I think the one thing about Lamar Jackson, the fumbles have been there. There have been some mistakes, but he always, it doesn't shake him at all. Like I think last year you saw the Ravens offense

become a little chaotic to the point where Hollywood Brown and Lamar were squawking publicly. It's all gone away because he is, I think Lamar Jackson able to overcome personal errors and an offense that's largely like missing guys all over the person. Right, but they have weapons now. That is the strength of their team is their passing attack and the depth of their passing attack.

Brown is a true one right now. Sammy Watkins might come back for this. this game. Andrews is a Pro Bowl tight end. Rashad Bateman's come in and immediately been a pro, made like tough catches where he's like the number two type of chain mover. Duverne is kind of a fun number four who makes plays too. So it's like suddenly that's a strength. And they built this offense, this off season to beat all the zone coverages that he goes against. And so that's where the ball keeps going. And they're not beating zone coverages like Kirk Cousins does with the dumpoffs. They're beating it over the linebackers and ahead of the cornerback.

And so everything is 15 to 20 yards up the field. And I find this matchup interesting, if only because the dolphins are, I think, number two in terms of blitzing this year, like the number two most blitz-heavy team, which goes against what you normally would want to do against Lamar Jackson because you've got to play man coverage if you do that.

And then he just runs all over you. So do you dare Lamar to run and just keep blitzing like crazy? His numbers, for what it's worth, against the blitz this year, are not good. so if I'm the Dolphins and if I'm the Ravens who are another one of the most heavy blitz heavy teams like I just blitz blitz blitz

and then your dolphins just see what happens it might go terribly and he might run for 200 yards but I'd rather that than him throwing over the top ball game and the Dolphins defense they really haven't faced a ton of mobile quarterbacks outside of Josh Allen who crushed them so I think it'll be interesting to see how Lamar Jackson does against them this is an important game I think for Brian Flores

it's a island game a lot of eyes on it and you know ownership's mulling what they want to do next as an organization. One of the guy in the Ravens wanted to point out, anybody else noticed a little bit of juice and Devante Freeman? Yeah. A little bit?

Like, so there's just a lot of pieces on that offense. They had 500 yards on the nose against the Vikings that I think is just going to overwhelm Miami. Miami. Whoa, that was awesome. Holy! But, Connie, the good thing about the game that you cover every week is Thursday night is weird as hell.

I love it. And you don't know how it's actually going to play out. So Justin Tucker needing to kick a long field goal and getting up on the dais in play, please pitch it if it happens. By the way, I saw that someone screenshoted on their timeline that you and I both had the same Mike White reaction seconds apart, milliseconds apart. I was so upset that they took him away from us. Don't take that's a perfect man from us. Yes. They took him. Yeah. I predicted that though. You did. Yeah, I'm sorry that that came true. All right. Connie, anything else you want to add? How's everything else? Hey, everything's going great. Missy guys. So a nice picture of you and your husband. on the old graham yes we went to a wedding it was super fun it was in anaheim we stayed what are weddings

like in anahe oh my gosh i haven't been to a wedding in so long and anaheim it was so much fun because it was a big wedding too and when we you know normally when you sit down the the reception opens up after cocktail hour and it's just some nice jazzy dinner music no no no this was like a greek club all night from start to finish it was really fun Greek-Persian wedding. They don't mess around the Greeks. Oh, my gosh. If you can get yourself to a Greek wedding, you should do it.

Do you predict success for the couple? I mean, being real. Like, they're not going to hear this. No, I love them. They're great together, good people. Were you in the wedding party? No, but I should have been. I was in the wedding party of a...

No, not really. Like, I mean, just because we... Our table brought it. Like, we were the fun table. The ceremony's different than most weddings. Somebody walking in a circle around... There were circles. There was stuff going on.

There were crowns with ribbons where they do the three things. It is. And then the music. Sufleke. Yeah. And they do this thing where they're like, I think the Persian side, I had never been to a Persian wedding before. And they were like, no, no, no, no, no, la, la. They'd make that noise.

See, I haven't been to one of those yet. That sounds hot. The kiss. Yeah. Sounds good. I like circles. What percentage would you say John looking good at a wedding is like the reason that you married him? Oh, 100%. Oh, wow.

So there's not. Because he does, yeah, he brings a lot of baggage, too. I'm kidding. He has some many things. Many reasons why I married him, but that, yes, is one of them. You think John's hot, Greg? I think I was just going off of her comment

on the thing, just like, look how nice my dresses up. Did I say that? I don't know. How hot do you find him, Greg? Yeah, what is his number? I'm not going to give him a number. If he was an NFL head coach, where would you slot him in?

That's your guys. I have my number. I won't share it because it's like a no-win's. situation there if it's too high. My number is high on guns. I would put it. I would say it'd be alarmingly high. I'm just saying like, yeah, there's, he's bringing a lot to the table, but there's, you know, he was a Johnson and Johnson guy. Like, there's some negative too. So are you though. Right. That's, and I haven't been. Do you want to grade the three of us before you say goodbye? Do you want to give us to myself? Okay. But you're all 10. But do you have it?

Do you have in your head like just when I said that? I've never thought about it before. So we're not even. I would rather not. Like you've never even thought. We're not even. We don't even. We don't we don't even occur in. We don't. We don't. We don't anyone's headspace. Because you guys are like my three brothers. Do you know what's funny, Connie? And you're a sister to us, you're a little sister. I sometimes say that to my wife, too.

You know, you're married for a long time. It's like, do you still see me as a man? Am I a man to you still? Like, where are we at? This is you talking to her. Wow. Sometimes you have that conversation. Then Greg goes, wow, nothing ever unfortunate happens in my mind.

That's, I just, it's a funny conversation. How does Emily respond to that? Yeah, it's more like a tease when it's like, hey, let's get back on the track in terms of being a we fell in love as a couple let's go on a date let's have some fun together let's you know it's tough when you have two months i've come to the i am um it's not even a conclusion it feels factual that my significant other is severely annoyed with me generally so right i've i've long assumed that no women ever looks at me like that or as a man and if you ever find out the opposite like what a nice pleasant surprise that here's a perfect example that sometimes it gets on my

radar with my wife like if i go and i have let's say right now i have a grisly beer that I'm trying to grow in. If what I'll always do when it's time to shave it, I will keep, I will shave the beard and keep a mustache, right? And then I'll start walking around the house. And I look like Don Mattingly in 1988 and she doesn't notice. And I'm like, whoa, whoa.

That's concerning. Yeah. I'm going to play this back for her and she's going to kill me. She's tuned out. All right. It'll be the second time she listens to this show. Straight tens, though, you three. Thank you, God.

Dime pieces. We got three dimes in the. studio. 30 cents. That doesn't feel real. That's what it adds up to. Yeah. Erica, another 10.

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