NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Mock Draft with Nate Tice!

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Nate Tice to give you a mock draft of the first round of the NFL Draft. Find out why Cam Ward (03:35) and Travis Hunter (06:00) are the first players off the board, why Colston Loveland is the first tight end selected (19:50), who selects Ashton Jeanty (28:15), Tetairoa McMillan (31:45), Shemar Stewart (47:00), Shedeur Sanders (01:05:30), and all the rest of the first round draft picks.  Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. Welcome to NFL Daily, where it's officially mock season. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. by my friend Nate Tice of Football 301 at Yahoo Sports and their big board over there and the mock drafts over there. And we got you on the huff doing a mock draft today. Welcome, Nate. Oh, no, I love it. They're great exercises. They really are. It's a nice practice for the draft because

then you start realizing why things break a certain way. So yeah, as the mock turtlenecks go away, the mock drafts come out. That's kind of just what's going on. There you go. It's right. It's the first mock draft in NFL Daily history. It might be the last one of this draft season. I don't know if we'll do another before. Smash in the bottle on it. Maybe the last week, a couple days before the draft, we'll try to, we'll drop one more.

But the process of going through it was interesting. Like, I don't have to know 100 plus players like you do. You're in draft season. So I kind of feel for you. It's another time. You know, like, it's a crazy time of year for you. Yeah, the, I relate, you know, I don't get as fully deep as, you know, your guy, DJ and probably, uh, and Dame Bruegler, but I'm probably like a half step below that, but I'm getting up on that kind of Tom Hanks and Castaway look. Like, that's where I'm getting there. I'm getting there. But that's how you know it's April. That's how you really know it's draftsies. You wear it well. So as, as a guest, we're going to go back and forth. Yeah, it's natural on you. A real football guy. By the way, you had a. I'll mention it when we talk offensive lineman,

but love that episode you did with your dad. Mike Tice, that was especially cool. But we're going to keep it simple. We're going to go back and forth. I've given you the number one overall pick, which means you have all the odd numbers. There's no trades involved.

We're not doing anything like that. That just seems silly. So let's just start with the number one overall pick. You have the Titans. And how I viewed it, and I know this is a little late to tell you this, it was just like what you think they should do. I don't have information on what they're going to do.

Not really. There's a couple little things floating out there. But no, more like if Nate Tice was in the front office like he was back in the day. You know, what would you want to do? So you have the Titans. You're up first. Just five tiers higher than what I was. All right.

So, but then we go. No, I like doing mocks that way anyways because I also like thinking of the exercise like where teams are at and kind of just get into their mindset and like kind of also the most fun thing about analyzing sports just I told you so you know you kind of get into getting to get into that territory you know it's like I used to gamble you know can't now because I'm a fellow employee with NFL network but it's just you know yeah but you know it's not about like the money it was just about being right and I think that's just with a lot of stuff yeah but the flip side of that is you just hate being so wrong like I

couldn't accept when I was wrong when I used to bet wait before I came here here that it would just bother you. And you understood the math of it all that being right six out of ten times is great, but it's still pain to you when you really thought you were going to get one and you didn't. So I just, I hated that. Especially when you think you really got a solid one.

Yeah, no. It's been brutal for for. So that's the irony is I live in Vegas and don't gamble. But it's just the it's as I've, I've learned though is when your sports mean it's okay to be wrong sometimes. But anyways, long story short, number one pick, Titans going with Cam Ward,

quarterback. I just, I like the player a lot. I have really started just to start off. And I've kind of used this line a few times is this draft is really starting to feel like the 2019 draft where Tyler went first where it's like, yeah, this guy's the one one guy. Like yeah, yeah, when it's all said and done, like yeah, he's flawed, but I really like him. And he's a good player and a good prospect. And I really like Ward.

But then also other quarterbacks might be getting bumped up that, like, we'd look back out and squint our eyes. Right. It'll be interesting to see where, or if they go in this mock. since it's whatever we wanted to. I love that. We talked about Cam Ward at length earlier in the week with John Ledyard, and you're right.

The longer the process went, the more I was flummoxed, why he wasn't talked about like a great quarterback prospect in the first place, especially for a team like the Titans that needs one desperately, and there's such a big falloff from him down that it just seems obvious,

even if there weren't Steve McNair comps, and they're kind of are. I mean, I was trying to avoid it, but that's, yeah, that's, there's a lot there. I see, I see FAR too. Like, I mean, that's, kind of the run around stuff.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, just the way. Just better, better, better, like, scrambler than he is runner or just like better. Yeah. Better NFL athlete than he is just pure athlete in that, that's, that's fair in the taking the chances.

And I was like saying like, trait wise he like wins with balance and strength as opposed to speed, like, which is like actually matters in the NFL because you can't run away from a lot of people in the NFL, you know, so it's, it's, but and then also throwing, yeah, he looks to throw rather than run, which I think is, you know, creates a longer career and a more productive career. I've really, like, I like word a lot. He's, I wrote him up and just like, really, as I studied him more, I was like, man, I kind of underrated you. Like, even like his creativity and stuff,

his creativity and stuff is really, really fun to watch. Like, not just the outside of the pocket, but inside the pocket, too. Like, it's just, you know, changing arm angles and stuff. is just really exceptional. That's the number one thing for me, too, is like, okay, maybe Kyler is a good, a good comp in terms of where does this guy's career go? Like, he's adding a ton of value for me. That's what I care about is like, am I going to enjoy watching him every Sunday? And I feel it is a big fat yes on Cam Ward and who I'm going to take number two overall

for the Cleveland Browns. This is a, this is a difficult one. I didn't consider quarterback. But I'm going to take Travis Hunter. Ultimately, I just feel like. Like, you're, if you're making the choice and it's these drafts where there's special players that everyone recognizes, like Jamar Chase, and then suddenly like, you know, he falls down, just a couple picks for whatever reason, or even special guys at a certain position,

like Kyle Hamilton falls down in certain ways at certain positions, like for whatever reason. It's like, Travis Hunter, to me, is just the guy that's just the most special player easily, in this draft, for obvious reasons that we've talked about and that you've talked about. And so I'm just going to take them because I don't want to pass on this special player. And I know they have good cornerbacks there. It's like, hey, I think they're going to need a cornerback at some point. They're not that good there. And he could absolutely play a lot of wide receiver there.

They absolutely need it. I don't even care. I'm not answering that question for them. I just want it all. I want Travis Hunter. He's my pet. He's just a special type of player and just get him on your roster and just like, okay, fun. And we just, like, that's all we're doing right now.

I think they shouldn't chase quarterback here at all, considering who's out there and stuff. So, like, I, it's Hunter to me or Abdul Carter. Right. That was, it was just making the choice. And I didn't feel like I could do a wrong one. But it's like, I've seen a little bit, it's like, well, they have Greg Newsom and Martin Emerson. Man, if you're not taking Travis Hunter, because you have Greg Newsom and Martin Emerson and Denzel warden like the eighth year riskier, what are you even talking about?

So I'm taking Travis Hunter. I just like him a little more just because he could just be. just next level special, something we've never seen before as a player. And so I want to take that. So you're up with the Giants next. Oh, God. Man,

this is actually. I mean, this can't be a surprise. If you're already saying, oh, God, at number two, at number three,

you know, there's only so many routes that. I know, but I think it's because I, I've gotten lazy and not lazy, but I think the last few, uh, I've gotten to be able to kind of like rope memorization where a lot of people go,

Browns, Abdul, and then Giants go Travis Hunter. And it's just like, All right, what's number four? Patriots. Ooh, this is a fun one. Right.

I think I just, even with, you know, Tibito there, you know, they splash big money on Brian Burns. I think they just still go Abdul Carter. And I think they figure out the quarterback stuff later, especially with Travis Hunter now there, no longer there. They did, you know, sign a daybo. And, you know, that's like interesting. Deonti Banks had a down year last year.

Maybe he steps back. Like Hunter would have been a lot of fun here. But I'm going to go, I'm going to Abdul Carter. who I think is a very good prospect. Do not agree with the G word, usually ever. But with Carter, I think, is a very good one. Hadn't need to add some strength. I compared him to KGB, former Packers Edge.

Wow. Do you remember him? Yeah, of course. You know, kind of, yeah, very, you know, bendy, fast. Not that great against the run. You know, and then can get overwhelmed a little bit by more stronger tackles, which is why I don't consider them like that elite elite, elite prospect like I do Travis Hunter at corner and a little bit at receiver.

But I think of dual car is a very good prospect. And to skim on this roster, I don't know. I think I'm still optimistic on the Giants defense, especially with the additions they had this offseason. So get more talent there. I can't say I was like grinding KGB tape back in the day in 2000. I was in college at the time. Actually, probably the years I was least connected to the NFL just because social life, you know,

it was like right. My introduction was during that time. But you never would have been able to tell me that, you know, 20 plus years later, he would be known better as Akbar's brother. So that's KGB now. I like that pick too. You just got to take the best player. Quickly,

do you like him better than Aidan Hutchinson coming out of college, Abdul Carter? Yeah, I do. But I liked Hutchinson. I thought he got to kind of knock. There's actually a couple guys that compare, like even Mikel Williams with Trayvon Walker.

Like, I like Williams better than Walker and Walker went number one overall. Right. So, but, you know, Walker tested like a, you know, top 99th, 99.9 percentile athlete, Michael's more of a very good one. But, you know, that's another discussion once we talk about Michael, I guess. All right. I know.

You'll probably be taking him from the sound of it than me. I'm going to take Jalen Walker number four overall. This is the scenario I would want least for the Patriots at number four overall. Will Campbell's pretty tempting that you would just give it a shot and you would have. a really good guard if it doesn't work out at left tackle. And yet, I guess when I'm this high in the draft, I do want to take a swing. I do think of the defensive players other than Carter and maybe one other guy we'll talk about, but just to be a real difference maker for a team that is going to have a defensive vision, even though you can say that there's not

as big a need because they've spent so much on defense, but there's still a huge need. Like, Who are their great edge players? They have a need for everything. And I do think in a flexible defense, you just take the guy that you think, I think his floor is maybe higher than people giving credit for as just a good edge rusher type of guy

and that you want to take a guy with a high ceiling if you're picking fourth overall. So in this scenario where you can't trade down or anything, I like Jalen Walker, fourth for the Patriots from Georgia. Look at receiver at all?

You get a little tempted there? No, because I don't think there's, a receiver I like enough to take it fourth overall. I love McMillan. I know your co-worker doesn't, but I do. DJ does not love. We had Maurice Jones Drew on our podcast, 40s and Free Agents, with Daniel Jeremiah last week.

And he has McMillan going fifth to the Jaguars, which is interesting for a few reasons. Number one being that he knows what that building is talking about. So the fact that he had Ted McMillan going to the Jaguars is specifically interesting for him. MJD. But no, I don't, I don't think he's in that caliber of receiver. But this is why I don't like the Patriots being at four. It's why I don't like, uh, you know, that them losing that first overall pick by beating the, are you going to blame Joe Milton right now? Yeah, I was going to blame

Joe Milton. Take him on the way out. I mean, they could be, they could have their pick of the litter. They could be trading down and like taking Travis Hunter. Especially with what, especially with how Ward's getting looked at right now. It's cool how everyone kind of came to the same conclusion with Ward. It like really was like independently and then together, the consensus is all gone like, hey, this guy's pretty damn good. Right. Like, what are we doing here?

Shoot, that would have been nice for the Patriots. Right. And even if that hadn't worked out. Isn't he like bang the drum? Isn't he just like Steve McNair guys? Isn't he awesome? Right. Because if you're including Ward in it, you could say the class might be three players of truly

premier, like would go top five almost any, you know, every year. type of players, and that's Hunter, Carter, and maybe not even Ward, but Ward is going to go because he's the quarterback, but so that's why fourth is an annoying spot. But Jalen Walker, I'm feeling okay with that. I'm feeling okay. That's interesting. I like Walker a lot.

I actually, one of my favorite player comparisons I've come up with is Walker and Clay Matthews from Packers. You would take that. You would absolutely take that. That's for sure. Absolutely. But kind of like, he was kind of a tweener coming out of college, a late bloomer or two. Walker was more hyped. but just like that kind of tweener

but I think it's just going to be a really good pass rusher at the very least and then especially how defenses are now where they drop so many guys from the line of skirmage like okay yeah he's not a perfect inside linebacker type but then use him on the edge

and he can drop right rush the basser and drop that's exactly who he's good at let's do it so I love Walker he's one of my favorite players in the draft I just haven't pictured him with the Patriots yeah you also gave me an interesting which is not a great sign

but yeah we're trying to be interesting on this mock you got the Jags you're number five overall. God, now I want to do McMillan because that would be fun. You could. If there was a wide receiver that I thought was worth it for the Patriots at 4, it just feels like it's a stretch. I have a couple liens here. So like Will Campbell and Mason Graham are kind of what I'm coming down to here. The McMillan one, there is one I've thrown out there in the past, but that was just more for fun.

But, you know, I kind of want that Ralph Samson, Hakeem Lajuan going on in Jacksonville with the, you know, get the Brian Thomas Jr. and McMillan. my goodness, that would be a lot of fun. I mean, you got Godwin and Evans right there for you as a, you know, as a comparison with Liam Cohen. So the other comparison I've gone with with Liam Cohen is last year they drafted Graham Barton, one of my favorite players in the draft last year, plopped him in at center and he was a huge booster for the whole Bucso line.

And then the Jags gone sign, Robert Hainesie, who is who Barton beat out at center. And so one of my, you know, paths I've gone on is they draft Will Campbell to then play center. but this is way high to play center, you know, to draft a guy at center, even though I think he has more versatility that I think he can play a tackle, but the Jags already have tackles.

So are you drafting a guard here at five? That's a little rich for me. So that's why I'm going to go with Mason Graham. Okay. Defensive tackle, just create a really fun defense line. You know, there's other players on the edge that maybe they look at,

and maybe even they go with the McMillan path. But, right, let's go defense tackle, pop a man with Walker, pop him with the artist for him, known as Josh Allen and just have a really good talented defensive line that can get after the passer and just built

through the trenches. I don't think they, I think also the new GM, who you've discussed as well, has no issues with taking maybe imperfect prospects because Graham's has a little shorter arms but just watches tape, especially his 2023 tape and it's just very explosive and disruptive as well. Right. Maybe the 24 tape he was playing through injuries. He does have some detractors out there. I want to have Ali Connolly on who does a great job on his podcast for the read option.

I mean, he's, he was very low on Graham, just thinking he's on the ground too much, thinking that you can't win the way he won in college at the pro level. That's going to be really hard for him to win quickly, like he's Aaron Donald or JJ White. Like, he's just not going to be able to pull that off. And then what do you have?

Maybe a guy who is a downer on running downs that maybe can't hold up. But that's just the other side, and it's good to have differing opinions. That would be fun, though, him in Jacksonville. I like that. All right. I'm going to go sick. I don't consider him. Yeah, he's not a blue chip prospect to me. But yeah, I consider him. I consider him a good one. So I have something concerned, same concern with the hallway. I'm a little higher than him, though. So I am up with the Raiders, and Ashton Genty's been a very popular pick there in terms of what will happen. Now I'm on the board. I'm building the team. Will Campbell is still sitting there. You could start him at guard, actually, right away. And then at some point,

point, Colton Miller's not going to be there forever. You could move him outside. I wrote down Gentie, just assuming that this was going to be the process that happened. And yet, if I'm on the clock and I'm the one building the team, I actually would take Will Campbell here. So that is what I'm going to do. As much as I would love Gentie there, I just think, I just think it makes sense for them. People get way too locked into what the roster is right now. They have a right tackle that they like and glazed, so that's kind of covered. It's fine. We've seen this happen all the time in NFL history

where a guy starts out at guard and moves to left tackle when the incumbent eventually moves or goes the other way, gives left tackle a shot and moves inside. In this case, I think he would just start out at guard and even though it's rich, I guess, for the sixth pick, I don't know. Guards are getting rich, Nate.

Guards are getting paid the same as cornerbacks, getting paid way more than off-ball linebackers and safeties and running backs. So guards, if you're kind of like looking at the average value of what's the franchise number, if you just made a guard franchise number, they don't do that now.

It actually would be over 20 million. It'd be very high. So if we're valuing the position that much, I'm fine taking them sixth overall and just making the whole group better. And when you're just talking about long-term stuff and you bump it up the left tackle, what I love about Campbell is I could picture him at all five spots.

And so like the term I've kind of come up with him is he's a best five enabler like no matter what you're going to get your best five out there because he unlocks that ability you know kind of like tony is able to do that in theory and then you see him at left tackle for extended periods and you're like but it's but uh i think that i really like gamble i'm super high on them um and actually a couple other guys but i i really like him just because of that ability and i could just picture it and see it just i think he's just such a smart player and such a way better athlete i mean he tested like it but way better athlete than he's still getting credit for just a good player i'm always wary of saying like it's a safe pick when it's an offensive line

people do that all the time and then it's like ikea conu and and that draft too who did the giants take there uh evan neal evan neal they're like oh yeah well these are saves plug and play 10 years like no you can't say that about literally any position except for maybe a couple prospects each year which are just exceptionally even those occasionally that's not right about all right you got the jets at number seven man And so who is still out there. I'm just trying to look at my, my blue chippers. Jets are an interesting team.

They could do a few things. Like I honestly, I've looked at offensive line here, especially with Mimbu from Missou, would be the guy. But I want to get spicy. Wow. So I'm going to have, I'm going to have some fun here. I'm going to go Colson Loveland. Wow.

Michigan. I just finished writing up a article on Yahoo. And I went into the process. I watched these guys usually during the season. mostly focused on NFL. I watch usually about two games during the season, if I'm being honest, then I start picking up after the season, usually for article purposes, start pulling clips, wrote about Tyler Warren from Penn State, who was my tight end one, I'm on my last big board, Loveland right behind him.

I watched it, and I think Loveland is clearly above Warren as a tight end prospect after studying six games and trying to really look into stats and everything. Loveland is a true upside as a Y tight end, meaning in line. I don't love taking tight ends early, but I think his floor is high for a 21-year-old tight end as a rookie that already shows it. It's not just, you know, ideas. It's not projection that he can block in line, but also split out and be a true weapon as like a, I would, you know, maybe not the alpha receiver, you know, pass catcher. But if you have paired with a guy, I don't know, Garrett Wilson, that's a great little pairing and great little synergy that they can work off each other. can attack all three levels he's a good route runner already already mentioned that he's young got a good frame he's longer than warren and also i think already a better blocker even though warren's been kind of sold as a better blocker i think levin is already at his tier maybe better and projects better and projects better than long um and so yeah so i'm gonna go call some level in here i and the jets have desperately needed some tight end help and better tight end coaching it's been one of the low key atrocities in the oh wow of the last last year or two oh yeah it's been

one of the things I can't. Anytime you watch the Jets, the tight ends is their run game would be absolute. It was like the Chargers the last few years. The tight ends were so bad at blocking in the run game that that crippled the run game more than the offensive I did. Yeah. So and some love one. I like that too. The fit the offensive coordinator Tanner Engstrom coming from Detroit. So he gets his, he gets his Sam Laporta. They certainly want to, you know, use that middle of the field in that type of offense. I, I keep saying it. I think this Jets team, has more than people realize, not like it's got to go to the playoffs, but especially offensively, they're really just missing one spot on the offensive line, but they got the

rest of the draft to do that. And if you're in a spot where you feel pretty good about four spots on your offensive line, that's a good place to go from. And they could certainly use a weapon alongside Garrett, so Garrett Wilson. So I really like that pick there. I'm with you. I think Loveland versus Warren, you just can see it easier. Tyler Warren's such a unique prospect that I feel like I'm not smart enough to quite know if that's going to work or not, whereas Loveland, you just get it. I'm going to make another surprising pick here before we take our first break. The Carolina Panthers, and I was talking about blue chip players, potentially in this draft, there's only like a couple. So I'm taking Hunter. I feel like Will Johnson has a

chance to be a true blue chip NFL player. So I'm putting him on the Carolina Panthers at number overall. I do, I know he's not the athlete, likely. They have their pro day coming up in a couple weeks that some cornerbacks that have gone this high are. But in terms of the profile, in terms of the 2023 tape and in terms of the upside, they need defensive players. They've set, Dave Cadales has said it. Like, we have to focus on the defense. And I think of all the defensive guys out there, he would be the guy that I feel good enough about the floor and that I feel has a real top 10 worthy ceiling. So I am going to go Will Johnson at cornerback to the Panthers. You could pick any defensive player or like high end defense prospect here.

And for the Panthers, I go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. You know, like I get any guy here. So you go linebacker, Jahad Campbell, you go edge. You know, I mentioned Mikel Williams or Mike Green or something like that. or corner. I'm with you on Will Johnson. He's still a top 10 player for me. Oh, good.

Yeah, I have him at nine. I think I'm a less big more nine or eight. And he'll probably hang around there, seven, eight, nine. I, he's just smart, like, and it has great size for the position.

The long speed is the one thing that, you know, is this big knock and his 2024 tape wasn't overwhelming. You battle an injury. And some of that, some people weren't happy that he kind of more or less sat out the season.

But I mean, if you watch Michigan's quarter, actually you don't understand why. Right. Oh my God. But I really like him. He was my number one player at the midseason point. It's what I'm talking about.

This is what I'm talking about. That's why you want that kind of player that would inspire a guy like Nate Tice to have him number one overall at some point. He just knows how to use his body. Like his body positioning is like very good. Like he knows how to play corner. And it's just that's why I like him. Like I, yeah.

So drop him next to horn. And that's like just a dynamic corner pairing. just a really fun one. So, yeah, I like Johnson a lot. You got Trevin Morg there at safety, but you brought back Mike Jackson at cornerback. I mean, you don't really have a slot player. You need a lot.

You need everything just about on that divest, but I would say you really could use a cornerback, and I think he fits. Let's take a quick break, and we'll be back on the other side with the rest of the picks. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero.

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Jeremiah is number one. He's in a big spot. I know what's happened in the past. Yeah. And, you know, it's a pipeline. Mayok, you know, to the Raiders. Now, that spot's a pipe. But number two on that list, I think, is Nate Tice.

So we are really, we are really putting him to the test. Field Yates would be a fun one. Oh, yeah. But I just feel like they'll look at Nate and they'll say, okay, former former quarterback. This guy's really smart. And so we're now putting what it would be like if Nate was running. 16 different NFL teams

if you were Mickey Loomis what a world that would be who would you take for the New Orleans Saints aren't blotch and just do whatever I want this is because I haven't shaved all week and I'm wearing a floppy hat and you're like yeah you look like a scout

but that's exactly what you're going with no yeah I figure myself more of a pro scout anyways but okay okay you know same that's why I do the free agency list I know right yeah yeah Save circles here. You know, I want to go with this guy,

but I want to save it like with McMillan there. I'm tempted with quarterback there. God, they could do a lot. I've really squeezed Will Johnson here. I know I'm supposed to go quicker, but I'm stalling for time. Mambu is a strong option. I think Saints fans would like Shador.

Now, this is one where it really might divide whether it's you running the team or them running the team because my personal opinion is they would be thrilled to have the choice of Shador or Mambu. But I don't. thing you should do that. You need to do what Nate wants to do. I'm buying your time here. That's what I'm doing. Well, I'm going to go with Memboe because that's where I was kind of leaning anyways. But it's also the thing. They don't have regime changes. So it's not like Mickey Loom, the new GM is going

like, well, Trevor Penning. You know, it's like, no, Mickey Lewis is still there. So I'm going to go with Memboo just because, yeah, I might as well just, this is what they've done in the past is built through the trenches. I know Sean Payton's not there, but just keep building through the trenches, get more talent up there, put penning at left guard, I guess, and drop this guy in a right tackle. I really like Mambu. He is either, I'm still trying to decide if he is my O-Lyman 1, but he is either one or two for me. But I really, really like him. Think he can stick out of tackle on either side.

He could play the left side as well. I haven't really gotten this pairing, though, in the past. But I think the Saints could do really anything. I just nod my head and go, yep, that makes sense. Yeah, because he's going earlier in some. I think Saints fans have this one in their head if they don't get shoulder. I think they would love this outcome.

Now, the more typical Mickey Loomis move would be to like pick up fifth year option for Trevor Penning or even give them an extension. Just like make it seem like it was a good draft pick. Five boy deers. Yeah. But Membu would, I think, make a lot of sense. All right, I got the Bears now.

And Will Campbell's off the board. And so I'm actually going to, switched places and now Ashton Jenty is the Chicago Bear. And I just think if the top two offensive linemen are off the board,

it's maybe a little early for Gray's Abel. Not crazy. I actually was thinking about Loveland here and you already took them. I think Ashton Jenty to the Bears

would be a great pairing. You support your young quarterback with a strong running game and we fly. You need weapons. However, they could. and he would absolutely be a weapon for them.

No, I like it. I think Ben Johnson's not making any mistake of what he's all about, especially with the offensive line and no half measures with it. And I think, you know, this is the same team that has Gibbs. He doesn't really like Swift. I'm just reading T. Leafs. And also, I think they're for sure taking a runoffack somewhere. I've been curious which one they actually pull the trigger on

because I think there's a lot of fun potential fits there. Right. Trayvian Henderson or Amari and Hamer. would be interesting fits, whether in the first or second round, who really knows. But I think if Gentie was there, I think it makes sense. All right. You got 49ers number 11. Oh, man, I've been usually doing offensive alignment for them.

Actually, one I've kind of come around with is maybe they go edge. Okay. And they, you know, get a little juice across from Nick Bosa. And I, for me, man, actually, I'm going to go with Mikel Williams, actually, here. This is a little rich, but I'm going to go with him here. and this is more a I was going to go Mike Green actually I was setting this all up to say Mike Green from Marshall

but I'm going to know Mikel because I just think his I think Mikel's floor is as a plus run defender average pass rusher and I'm saying floor I think that he's very young he is going to be a very good

run defender potentially elite type of run defender with a I think a secondary pass rusher but has potential to tap into more like Montes sweat type of role you know, in the league, kind of status in the league. I think that's what Mikel could achieve, you know,

kind of the, you know, the big chunk of like what his potential could be or likelihood. But yeah, I go here and I also think that works really well with Nick Bosa because of what Bosa brings to the table and, you know, it could be a little pass first, past rush first and second and third before defending the run, you know, so I think that just could have fun little synergy. Inject a little real talent into this defensive line room as opposed to a bunch of retreads and day two picks.

Yeah, I think it's. such a huge need for them. I would say it's their biggest if I had to choose one. I know they have Nick Bosa there, but this is a team that wants to operate a certain way. And I think Robert Sal is getting there and he's thinking he got back and

all I've got is Jordan Elliott at defensive tackle and like Kevin Givens, and it could be a pass rushing defensive tackle, but I don't know if there's anyone to take here. Or Gross Matos as the other edge opposite Bosa, it's like no, give me a big guy. You look at the roster and you start going like,

Huh. Yeah. For me, for an iris, it's automatic trenches. It's defense-al-line or offensive line. That is like, if they go any other position, I'm going to be like, really? Derek Harmon would be the defensive tackle. I don't look at here for our Oregon, which I have mocked them in the past as selecting here. See, you have so much experience. You're like, I usually mock them here, but then sometimes they do them here. This is my first mock. So be gentle on me. The Dallas Cowboys are up next. I do think this is where you take a chance on Ted McMillan, actually. Game this one up. There aren't like a perfect

wide receiver prospect in this class, I guess unless you count Travis Hunter and want to see him there. But I think he would be a fine compliment, certainly, to C.D. Lamb, a different skill set. A type of skill set they have liked there, like a much better Michael Gallup,

you know, before the surgery. and Dax gonna make it work. It seems like a pick that they would make. Tyler Warren actually seems like a pick that they would make. I just can imagine that on draft night. To me, Jake Ferguson should not be stopping you from doing it. But I think Ted McMillan's a bigger need, a better fit and a premium position.

So let's go with him to the Cowboys. Yeah, Cowboys only go after Big Ten tight ends. So they got two choices. They're right at the top to pick from. No, I really like this kind of. of pairing as I've kind of really marinated on it. I also think C.D. Lamb and Ted McMillan, they need a little bit more juice, but that's why you have turpin. You know, they keep kind of spread the, spread the field. But I think, man, that's perfect synergy because he's like,

you just said he's Gallup. He's a true X that can move around a little bit. That's why I like him a lot. And I always get kind of confused when people mock a receiver to the Cowboys and it's a slot guy. It's like, do you guys know what C.D. Lam's good at? Like, he's like, he's the epitome of a power slot guy. So who would that be specifically that you've seen mock to them that you know, Luther Burden. Yeah. Um, you know, golden makes sense because or, you know, even a meca buca is kind of confusing to me because I envision him as a Z slash slot, like a power slot. Yeah. And, you know, you could do some two man game with him and CD. That one's not crazy. But there's maybe some more J2 guys, like a Luther burden. True or false. You came up with the phrase

power slot. I, I may be popular. Popularized it. I definitely think I stole it from a guy. co-worker with the Falcons who used it. But I definitely, I will say I took it and ran with it because I thought it was just a perfect phrase. That's solid. That's like an important thing to do as a media member is have little things like that. Like you're giving back to the community.

I think I was the first one to do Holden. And now that, that, you know, you can't really claim Holden, but I'm pretty sure like Holden. There was one other one over the years, but Holden, I'm calling his mind. power slot is yours. Forget that former employee. He doesn't have a microphone. Let's go Miami Dolphins next.

I'm going with, and I don't even have to look because I move this roster so well now because I'm always just like, ah, this is what you guys are. Malachi Stark's safety from Georgia, who's kind of dropped a little bit. But I think this is the start of his range, really. Went into

the season as a top 10 player for me. And I agree with some of the dropage, but not maybe the full dropage. he's one of those guys that his low lights make him look worse than his actual play. Like he's a guy that gets dunked on as a tackler. Like he's a really good defender that gets dunked on in basketball. So you're like, oh, man, this guy keeps getting dunked on. But when you watch him, he's actually a really good defender.

Malki-Starks's mistackles are really bad. But then when you watch him, you're like, oh, he's a good tackler. Oh, he's actually like really good of like body positioning and getting to the right spot and wrapping guys up in space. And he actually has a little more juice to him. He's very, he's versatile. He can kind of overrun some. things versatile player as well but if you look at the dolphins they need guards and they

need safeties that that is like what their roster needs the guard selections here maybe kelvin banks or something like that zabel is a guy you mentioned maybe i josh connerly from oregon like i don't think simmons from ohio state is a guy because if they had another injured player to their offensive line i will pull my hair out so malachi stark just fills a need for him and a very good player or a good player i should say bring some versatility too you know because that cohoo's in his last year, I think. And he's the slot player there. And Starks can play some slot as well.

A great defender that gets dunked on. So he would be the Derek White, I would say, of the NFL potentially. Because Derek White has led the NBA in blocks from among guards for three straight years. He's great at it. He has blocked a ton of like setters at the rim. But he always tries. So if you're always trying, you're getting dug on sometime. But you still get.

you still get on the second team all NBA. My son's favorite player, got him a jersey when they won the title. I said they had to win the title, so you had that little thing. Good player. Then a great player. They need defensive tackles.

I could hear their fans screaming, especially after they didn't get Clayus Campbellback. So who knows, could Kenneth Grant go like that high? I don't think it would be that crazy, but not for the dolphins in this mock. The Colts are going to take, I'm going to just do one of the most common picks,

I feel like in mocks going right now, Tyler Warren. We talked about him as a tricky event, valuation, but I do think they just need juice. And I do think you have to have a really clear idea of what you're going to do with this player, Tyler Warren, when you get him. And I could be wrong, but I feel like Shane Steichen is a guy I would trust to come up and actually have a vision to make it worth it. Even if he wouldn't fit everywhere, I feel like they could make it work fitting him with the Colts. Yeah. Warren makes a lot of sense for the Colts. And that's what I

kind of came to a conclusion I came to in my article is like I like love one for just about everybody yeah while Warren is more like he has to go to certain spots he needs either a blocking tight end with him to free him up you know a guys you know so like certain teams like that made more sense to me like the Seahawks maybe even the chargers um but I and the Colts made sense to me because like you just mentioned with Steichen schematically how he uses his tight ends he's not asking him to be a you know kick ass blocker in line. He's doing a lot of RPO's where they can kind of be freed up and just be truly receivers and everything. So, and Warren can do some dirty work stuff. He's better on on the move

as a blocker as opposed to inline blocking big D.Ns. He's like, you know, good linebacker blocker and good safety blocker. So I actually like this fit with the Colts. And there's other receiving options to kind of sort of he doesn't have to be a number one or high end number two guy right away. Also, my comparison for him is Dallas Clark. So makes even more sense going to the Colts. Yeah, if you're trying to be a basketball team, a receiver. I mean, you got a couple power forwards there now, Tyler Warren, Michael Pittman. You got some size.

You got some juice with downs. There's an 80 Mitchell. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, it's a big group. You got the Falcons, another big offensive weapon group, although I don't think you're going to add to that. Oh, no, even though they just sent, or mentioned today, I think Arthur Blank, that they might add to their offensive line group, which is just, they need defense align. bad that maybe maybe even inside linebacker as well they they need a lot uh this falcons team uh but i man is this the you know what i'm i'm gonna give him mike green i'm gonna give them what i

who i think is a you know they would never touch him in a real life because character concerns but i would i and this fantasy booking fan fiction that we're doing in this mock draft i am having mike green go to the falcons since i don't know Obama second term, they've needed pass rush help. Right. And Mike Green has a lot of high-end juice. He also was productive last year at Marshall's 17 and a half sacks, I think, off top my head. But also when he played high in the competition like Ohio State, he was still playing well and dominating and showing up.

Also think, you know, he's maybe a little limited against the run because of his size will get overwhelmed by bigger, stronger tackles. But he plays really hard. and he has potential as being disruptive against the run, but maybe not efficient, if that makes sense. Explosive against the run, but not efficient. Like, we'll get taken out of place, you can get overwhelmed, but then we'll get a TFL and knife inside, you know, and get a TFL to kind of make up for it,

boom, bust against the run, maybe. But against the past, I think that at worst, he is a high-in number two. Okay. But I think he, potential to be an ace, really. But he could be a 10-s-sat guy, like, season-in and season-out because he has that pass-rush potential. I mean, they need a high-end two, they need a high-end three, they need a one, they need it all.

It's been a while. And so I actually think they're in a good spot for this edge class because I feel like they would take the same player at 15 that if they had the seventh pick that they probably would take. But they're in a spot where they probably will have their pick of a few different options and they're going to really like the pick that they have. And they'll all start going off the board around now if they have. already. Cardinals. Man, I can see a lot of players fitting with the Cardinals, but I just think Jehad Campbell is such a nice fit in that defense where you're asking him to do a few different

things. Maybe the only offball linebacker in this class that is going to be expected to start right away. Kaiser White still hasn't been signed, which hurts my heart. He's just sitting out there in free agency, even though his defensive coordinator named his kid after him. So I don't know. That spot's pretty wide open. And there's a lot of needs that they have, but they're not like screaming needs. They do need an off-ball linebacker right now. And I just think that's another versatile piece that they would like to add

to a defense. And one that I think would know how to use them too. Yeah. No, I like front seven makes a lot of sense here. They can go anywhere on defense too. And not more, not like the panther sense. It's like they got a lot of like solid role player types. Yeah. You know, Buda Baker also very good.

And they're kind of funky on the front end. So I like a guy like Campbell because he can, Campbell's awesome. Just a really a good player. I've kind of really had him going to the bucks a lot. But the same argument here is because he can contribute against the run. He's a good run defender. He's good kind of

ascending coverage player, but also he has some pass rush juice. So like, yeah, defense like this, that blitzes everybody in every way, shape, of form. Yeah, love it. Right. And I was saying, like, you can't just be worried about need. Like, they could absolutely take an edge player, even though they have a few

more edge players. They could take a number of positions. They could take an offensive linemen, certainly. But, you know, you do look at the roster. And right now, they're starting off ball linebackers are Mack Wilson, Akeem Davis Gaither, Michael Walker. Like, I don't, yeah, right. There's, there's two spots there. Although, come on. Bring Kaiser back. I just feel like I thought he was good last year. All right. A couple more picks, and then we'll take another break. You are up with the Bengals. Yeah. This one to me feels like you just look at four spots, guards or defensive tackles. And then you kind of go from there. I have, there's some other spots I've

kind of looked at for the Bengals. I'm curious what you think. But I'm going to go with Derek Harmon here from Oregon. Just, I love Harmon. He's one of my favorite players in this draft. A high upside comparison is Akeem Hicks. But just a guy that contributes against the run, contributes against the past is not going to be that, oh my God, this guy is getting, we're threatening nine, 10 sacks in a year. But more of that four to six sack guy can play in any. type of defense too like he's versatile he can he can be a one gap or he can two gap he lined up all across the defense aligned for organ which is really cool he'll play the nose on one snap he's like a the end on other looks where they're twisting guys I don't know I there's just a lot to like with

Harmon and then he tested well uh so like that just put him over the top for me one yeah really like this player um like I'm closer to Graham than maybe you know others do uh and I just think that this would be a great get for the Bengals because they need this kind of like like, player that's going to be a good player for them as opposed to an idea or just another stopgap on the interior. Akeem Hicks entered league in 2012, big dude, difference maker. Rare guy that I would say three different organizations were like,

oh yeah, he was great for us. The Saints, the Patriots, he was barely with, but he was awesome with the Patriots. And then he had a long run at the end of his career with the Bears. And that is a great comp there. And if you could, if you could get 80% of it, Keem Hicks. I think you would be happy right there. I have the Seahawks at number 18. This one's

tough for me, but the way that the board fell, I think this is the spot for Gray's Abel. The North Dakota State offensive linemen. It's got some versatility in terms of what position he wants to play. They did have a guy who played okay for them at center, Oluatami. So I don't know if he's going to be a center here, but he might be following a near guy, Graham Barton's footsteps of like, you know, played left tackle, a smaller, you know, but could move inside. But whatever, he, he just seems like a first round player. And if, if he wasn't on the board, I probably wouldn't have gone offensive line.

I don't know if they'll do it in the first round or not. There's other good players in positions in need they could do it. But I think for them right now, where they're at, the need meets the talent. I think he's, I think he's worth taking this high. from everything I know, but I'm not the O-Linman expert. Do you think this is too rich? Would Mike, would your dad think this was too rich for him, 18 overall? No, I think this is kind of right where his range starts to me.

I think he's an 18 to 30 type player, you know, or just say back half of the first round. That's much easier. 16 to 32. Why make it tire than I have to? I really like Zabel. I was actually surprised my dad liked him as much as he did. And he, and he, of course, considers him an interior offense alignment, but he goes, of course, it's great when, in theory, that you can bump him out to tackle in a pinch, you know, that's great to see that he can hold his own. But he actually brought it up to me because I was like, I view him as a center.

And he goes, you mentioned that he didn't play center in college. And I was like, no, he played the other four spots, though. Right. And he said, well, my developmental path for him would be guard first year, center, second year. and that sounds great for the Seahawks. Okay, he's the left guard or right guard. I mean, shoot, neither one should preclude you from starting him. And then, but I'm a, I like Olo Watimi.

I really do. I think he's solid. I think he's, you know, I'm not saying top 10 center, but like a fine starting center. Like, you don't need to get a guy. But then as things get better, you know, you weather the storm, Zabel's guard. Okay, do we bump him to center? Because we like this other guard better and yada, yeah, yeah. Or even right tackle.

Could he play right tack? Because, like, Charles, Charles Cross is at left tackle. I know they're hoping they get a healthier season out of Abe Lucas, but you can't really count. You can't count on that. We'll see. So, yeah, it's some flexibility. They've been a sneaky tight end team for me, too, by the way.

Yeah, that was, that was a name. I wrote down, tight end potentially. All right, bucks. And then we'll do the Broncos, and then we'll take our last break. Well, this is so hard now because I just really have gone Jahad Campbell here so many times. I'm like on autopilot. I'm going to go it feels like to me that they could go

a defense they want pass rush Todd Bulls already mentioned hey we need pass rush help without me blitzing at the highest rate on third down that we've ever seen which is actual fact in the second half of the year they're willing to take chances on guys too I'm going to go to Shmar Stewart

from Texas A&M which even though I'm in charge of this is a little rich for me you don't have to take them you don't have to take them I will because I understand the argument here for where the bucks are at, what they kind of want to do. They always like kind of doing the colossus of roads, you know, one foot in the present, one foot in the future. I think Stewart's that type of player being young, being a quote unquote developmental player,

even though he's played a lot of high-end football and he's not very productive. I just think I understand the bet on his traits. Like I totally understand that. And the NFL is a traits league. Like you can't be a dummy to that and not expect some of these kind of what you may be considered reaches if you watch the film. Stuart's flashes are really cool. I also think he's blind. He like he overruns a lot of plays and I'm just like, open your eyes. That seems bad.

Yeah, I know. I know, but get him with the bucks when I'm running hit a little bit and get him to think a little bit later. Maybe just that helps him out on more of an aggressive defense where he can just slant and go and do those types of things. So going with the bucks here, I just wish Campbell was still around because that's a lot more more a fun fit for me. Have you any other thoughts

for the bucks for you? Because I'm one of those teams that's always interesting to me. No, my thought was Eziraku, potentially just a different edge option. Maybe that's too rich,

but just I could see them, him fitting kind of what they do, maybe a little more polished opposite Asan Reddick. But no, they sound like they want to go defense is the feeling that you get. But it really could be any position.

He read Jamel Dean, the Riot Act publicly, and that was a player he's believed to be very close with, so like cornerback could certainly be a pick there. They never get tired of taking cornerback, so I could see that as well. Hey, they're one of the best drafting teams. They're on my-

Jason Light. He gets it done. Dude, he's, here's my GM of the year last year. An NFL daily guest, was a great guest. Gave me the business. All right, before we go, Broncos, man,

if they actually, So they probably will have these options, too. It really does feel like they have to just draft a weapon. And I don't think there's some defensive player that they just have to take at this point. So it comes down to Amari in Hampton, who I am very high on as a running back that would be worth going in the first round. Or Amika Abuka. And I think if it was my team, I would take Abuka. And I know he's not going to be your future number one.

But I think there is part of me that, and I'm the one running the team. that still has that in my head that like, we can make this running game work. This is a deep running back class. I think it's going to hurt maybe not Hampton because I consider him a pretty strong number two. But I think it might hurt like the Ohio State running backs and people just waiting because they just feel like this class is deep

and like, eh, we don't need to force it in the second round here. But even I have that thought with Hampton. And I just want to get a wide receiver because I think they really could use one. And I know they're higher on their receivers than other. And so I'm going to take a Buga. yeah i i could totally see why peyton would like abuka too because he's he's like a coach's dream exactly he loves smart players he loves versatile players he loves inside players it all it all works i think he can be he is and

he could be the power slot all the way you know that that type of player i yeah i really like abuka he's my receiver too and this is exactly where i think his reign should be so they've kind of been for the broncos it's been like a gentie maybe a hampton team maybe a tight end team for some people, that, you know, that's been popular in some circles as well. Right. And they have this idea that, I know they have Evan Ingram there, but that, that's a short-term, that's a short-term thing. And he's calling him like a joker.

And I'm like, is Evan Ingram that? I don't, I don't know if he's that. His tight end evaluations are always interesting, because he likes his, we just mentioned dirty work receivers and he likes, he likes drafting alignment. And then he always goes after these like finessey receiver tight ends. And he pairs them with like a blocking only. guy. And yeah, maybe a Bucco would be like a, you know, a smaller power slot, uh, Marcus Colston for him inverted a little bit. Yeah, you know, for some reason, Marcus Colston gets more

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Back on NFL Daily. Now I feel like a jerk by setting up this artificial scenario. We can't comment on each other's picks. Maybe we'll just make it quick. I mean, Nate loves this. I don't want to rob him of any. quality time with me. And you really do love it.

I would say that we were just talking in the break of like some good advice you got when you were coming up about learning the league that you got to know both sides. You got to know how players actually fit in the league. And you got to know how they fit on current rosters, which I think sometimes is a blind spot for some of the draft Knicks out there. But the advice I would give and I don't need to give it to Nate is you better love this. You better love this. Like, Nate says in the break how much he genuinely likes this exercise

because it gets him thinking. It gets it like, and when I talk to some people who want to get in, I was like, you better like really love the football side of it. Not the media side of it necessarily. You need to love both ultimately, but you need the football part of it to carry you through the times when it feels like a little bit more of a grind that you'll always be able to go back to that.

And I don't know if anyone loves ball more than Nate. I mean, I'll give it, I'll give it up to you. Which is the irony because like, even when I was playing, I like the film aspect and like the scheme install more than like working out. Like, you know, I like the mental side of it. I know. And yeah, I, I, there's a lot of that. There's, and a lot of people always come to me and go like, you know, I've realized I'm terrible with this advice. I've tried to get better when they're like, hey, what's like a key aspect to like getting better?

And I'm like, you just got to watch. Like, you just got to build a Rolodex in your mind. They're like, okay, so, like, what do you watch? I'm like, everything. Like, here's the thing. That's not a one-size-fit-all advice because I know it's what you're, you can just say for me, but there's so many different roles within the media that some people like watching a ton, it might not really click for them or it might not be where, what they need to do.

But what I would say is even if you're not that person, you still got to have that the love of the football there. That's sort of what I mean. That even if you're playing a different role and maybe you're not like it, you still need that love and it needs to come out in some certain way. And you'd be surprised how many people don't really quite have that. And then those are the people that fall off. Even the ex players that are in there, I don't need to tell you this, that the ex players,

there's varying degrees of how much they love football. Some of them loved competing, but they really, and some of them are in extremely, smart and went really far because they worked hard at football and were smart about football, but they're still not that into it. There's somehow like a dichotomy that it's just like, yeah, yeah, it's like I wasn't into watching other football. Like, why would I care? That's it.

It was like, hey, we're playing the dolphins this week. I watched a lot of dolphins and I watched who the dolphins played the last couple of weeks and then I'll never think about them again. And these are great players too. Like they can be pro pro bowl players. I'm not like just saying scrubs. Right. It doesn't necessarily stop you.

It's not a one size fits all. It's a sliding scale of also like, hey, sometimes if you don't have the athleticism, you will need that extra work to catch up, which is how I view myself, at least, in terms of the media part of it. So I better, I better be working hard. All right, here's what we're going to do. We're going to make these last 12 picks. We can make comments about each others.

We don't need to just shut our mouths. But there's red lights on behind us. But we're going to do it at like a little bit of a faster pace to get out of here. The Pittsburgh Steelers are picking 21st. They are the classic stick-and-pick team. And right now, I'm like the last person to realize this a couple weeks ago. Every, everyone is on their original draft pick, which is just amazing. Right?

Is that true? Yeah, right. I think it was the first time ever or something like that. That's preposterous. I mean, think about the NBA, where it's literally the opposite. I don't think anyone. Through the notes of like the picks that got traded. Last second round in the,

NBA, I believe no one, this is, this is true, I believe. No one took their original second round pick, I believe in the NBA, which is just, oh, no, I want to look at, which is just the ridiculous. Don't look at, you look at, you like the same stuff, like little tidbits I do. I kind of love that. I do that. It seems crazy. It seems absolutely crazy. Oh, yeah. No, that's just, yeah. You're right. Of course I'm correct. Everyone got traded. And I would say, I would say each one got traded more than once. Oh, no, one, one only got traded once. Oh, yeah. This is what I mean. They have to come up a different word. Burland Trailblazer select a pick 34 from Charlotte

via New Orleans to Oklahoma City to Denver traded to New York second round picks in the NBA are crazy they're they're like they're like if they're like NFL sixth round picks but if if like they were just half the guys were here national player

right if they were just way less of them and you can do it seven years out I often think about how different the NFL would be if you were allowed to trade picks out as far as the NBA it always seems crazy to me it was like well, I don't know if the Lakers, like, that's the best drafts that asset they have, the 29 first that they've been holding on to. I'm like, 29, like, you're in the NFL, you're three regimes away.

Like, imagine if you would allow teams in the NFL right now to trade to 30 and 31 like the NBA. It would be absolutely insane. Or that the NBA has rules named after owners trading away their picks too much. Right. The Steppian role. Right. Because he traded away, the Cavs owner, three, or five first rounders. in a row so they said yeah you can't do that anymore

you can't trade first rounders back to back here I can see like the thought bubble above my producer Eric said which is bro you just came back to break saying you gotta keep it quick one minute per and you talked for four minutes about the NBA well now you guys can't talk about each other's

picks anymore you just use it all up on NBA draft knowledge I do love the NBA televised now yes I also think it's crazy and I always think about how crazy it would be if we had the NFL draft a week and a half after the Super Bowl, like they do.

That's, that would be crazy. Or even the NBA is fun because it goes draft and free agency. I think that actually makes sense, but the week and a half later, man, that would be crazy from a media said. All right, we're going to do it. 21st, it's the Steelers.

You're up. I'm going to go, Savon Revelle. Wow. Okay. Yes, Corner. East Carolina. I think he's very talented. Yes, he's coming off in ACL.

Yes, he is from a small. smaller school, but his tape is very good. Some inconsistencies play the run, but I think he's just the talent of him being a true outside corner type. I've compared him to Antonio Carmardi, former Chargers Corner, who also came off in ACL and my co-host on Football 301, Charles McDonald, compared him to Dominique Rogers Carmardi, which we did not know about, which I thought was very funny. But that type of corner, long, athletic, more toolsy than polished, but aren't polished

in these shows, especially for a small school guy. Love the Cromarties. Love that DRC had his moment in the sun. I love that, you know, Antonio, one of the weirdest up and down careers. I like that pitch. And yes, everyone check out Charles and Nate. They have a great draft coverage all year long on football 301. Just do that for me.

All right, let's go to the Chargers. Jaday Barron's still there, right? Yes. Yeah. There's a few different players. Amari and Hampton would make sense there too. I know it would be fun those are the two players that I like a lot

that I also think fits what they would possibly want but again I'm thinking if it was my team I probably would lean baron I think he's a really good player he's a rare player that I actually feel like in this class I think he slipped a little he's a good value at 22 so it's like

this class is almost like pick your poison between it's seven and 30 but I actually think He's a really good player that I could have taken much higher and I would have felt fine about it personally. So I like him going to the Chargers and they've shown they can coach up the secondary. Maybe it's not as huge a need for them, but they'll find a spot for him for sure. That's it. Yeah, find a spot for him on this type of defense.

That's more of a, you know, we talk about best five enabler offensive line. That's how this group views their DBs. You know, get their best. He's a best five enabler for DBs. I view more as a slot safety than a slot corner. that makes sense. Like that type of hybrid. But I'd like this fit here.

And I think he could just be a lot of fun, especially with James and just creative defense. This is a perfect type of fit for him. All right. You're up. You got the Packers. You know, I know they like Harrison from Kentucky.

Interesting. You know what? They need a bruiser. And I think they know that. I'm going to go Kenneth Grant, Michigan, which is not one I've really done before, a pairing I've done before,

but Kenneth Grant, Michigan, Packers has tools more than just a run player I know I just say kind of a grunt you know burly guy has the upside of that but has some Twitch to maybe get after the passer more of is still developing as a player but he has stretches that are as good as like anybody in this draft that that's why I mean he has potential to be the best defense alignment from this draft it's just more stretches and everything has tools Packers love toolsie guys Devonte why it's been kind of Yeah, you know, Kenny Clark's kind of on the backside of his career. So pop this guy in, go next to my boy, Carl Brooks, make some magic there.

Yeah, that was going to be my pick with the next selection, Minnesota. And I did do homework for this. I know they've added a couple veteran defensive tackles, but I think having a guy like him long term would make a lot of sense. I did do a lot of homework. And I wrote down a bunch of options later in the draft because I knew I'd be scrambling. But this is the first time where all the options. options I wrote down are off the board.

Barron and Grant are like great picks for the findings too. Yeah. Yeah, you really depleted it for you. I took it away from myself. I'm not a fan of I'm inmanwari, so I just don't want to make a pick that I don't quite. Not here either. Believe in.

I need your help here. God, you know, they're not going to go. Is Walter Nolan? They're not going to go tax. I think Walter Nolan can work here from Ole Miss. Yeah. A lot of differing opinions about him in the draft. You're lower.

I do think they need some like long-term beef up front. And I know they signed Hargrave. Do you want more the defense at tackle plugger type or do you want more of the athletic twitchy type? Because Ty Leake Williams from Ohio State's like a sneaky guy here. This is kind of the start of his range too. And he's like, he's burly. And, you know, we've got more athleticism to him. But his upside is like a true plugger.

Let's, let's do that. I'm changing my pick for the first time. Because I've actually, I've also heard people say like, well, Marian Hampton would fit perfectly in that scheme. It's like, yeah, but they just gave good money to Jordan Mason. That's what I was going to say. It's just not. Yeah.

It doesn't make. Yeah. That doesn't make sense. And Aaron Jones. Right. And they, you know, they play footsy with Ty Chandler all the time. To me, they were telling us, we don't want to have to worry about running back in the draft because we want to go hard at other positions. So I appreciate.

you helping me out on my Vikings. KOC is all about he's not going to play a young back. Like I could tell you, if he's there for the next 10 years, he's one of those guys that's only going to play vet running backs. Because he just, he has such a short leash. Just me, just ream between the lines when I watch them.

He does not want running backs back there that he can't trust, which is kind of funny. Because Aaron Jones was like that, but he's developed into an okay pass protector, but he was one of those guys that was bad and past protection early in his career. So it's kind of funny. Every two minutes, I suddenly remember. Oh, yeah, we were going to speed it up.

You have the Texans, and then I restart some other conversation. It's fine. This is the first time we've gone through players like this at every position and thinking about need and thinking about teams specifically. So it has been a really good exercise for me too. So you're up with the Texans. Yeah, I'm going to go, I'm going to go Josh Connerley here from Oregon, offensive tackle.

This is a guy I'm high on, but then my dad comes in and blows my hot take out of the water and he drops them as offensive lineman won. But that is with the Texans, I mean, you just look at the roster. I think their mandate is that they want offensive alignment, even if there's other positions. Like Golden here would make a lot of sense, you know, the receiver from Texas. And I think this is the range for Golden.

I'm comfortable with him. That would make a lot of sense because I also like the synergy with him and Nico Collins. But I think the mandate that the Texans have for their entire offseason is offensive line, offense align, offense align. Cam Robinson does not preclude you from drafting a tackle. That is a stop gap. That gives you options.

Get your best five out there. Get the guys. If the guy Connolly's a developing ascending player, he's not all the way there yet. I understand why my dad's high on him. I'm high on him too. But yeah, that kind of gives you a nice little stopgap if you need it.

But Conner, it could be that blind. He does look like an NFL player. And I think the Texans might have lucked out actually being 25th because I don't know if the gap between the top tackles and where they'll be taken. They might have a choice between him and Josh Simmons from Ohio State, which are both long-term, possible, high-upside type of player.

So I like that. I got the Rams. I was hoping that Sheter Sanders would fall all the way down here. I think they would do it. I think they would do it. And I'm going to do it. Why not? I love it.

This is actually a good fit for him. Yeah, I want to add a little spice. I think with the coaching that he would get, and look, he's had the same sort of coaching his whole career, the best that he looks, is when he's on time, on rhythm, when he has answers, this offense will give you the chance. He doesn't have to play right away.

I could see it. I think they're definitely in the quarterback market in this class. And so even if I'm not in love with Sanders, now that it's fallen to me, I didn't have to give up anything. This feels like an okay spot for him. And I think it's a good fit for his skill set. So I'm going to go Ramseter Sanders.

Yeah. After Ward, I consider the next group of quarterbacks, which is like six of them all day two dart throws. That's all I've considered them. But this is the range of when those day two dart throws like when people start throwing the darts. Way back in the day. Lamar Jackson was kind of almost a day two dart throw.

They had to trade back up to, you know, take 32. There's been a few of them over there. Teddy Bridgewater was one of those too. Right, which is crazy because, you know, the Ravens took Hayden Hearst first. I mean, there's a whole. I know. It's a whole alternate universe where they don't get Lamar Jackson because the Patriots take them at 31 or something. There were those rumors that year.

Tom Brady was QB1 on everybody's boards. Yeah, and then they took, yeah, that's true. But I mean, there was all that week you were hearing that maybe it was total nonsense. But they took Sony Michelle and he got his Super Bowl title. The Ravens are up for you. Yeah, speaking to Lamar Jackson. I'm going to go Donovan Jackson, Ohio State. We're just going with Ohio State guys.

Yeah, guy that played guard bumped out the tackle a little bit after Josh Simmons got her, who you just mentioned. Actually, had good tape, but tackle surprisingly good tape. guard is where he plays in the NFL, has length, athleticism, this is a team that loves their traits at all their positions. So now you get a guy that has those traits, but on top of it has good film, really good film. I would even say, I love this range for him.

I'm one of the higher guys on him, but this is, I'm very comfortable taking him here. They like their size on the offensive line. I think this is a long-term starter for them. Don't want to say, what, what's the, what would you say at the beginning, the offensive line, safe pick? Yeah. Not saying safe pick, but I think this guy has potential to be a good starter for. for a while. And more, actually, because he's so talented. He sounds like a Ravens pick. And I was

kind of locked in on Tyler Booker, the beefy guard as my lion's pick because he just feels like a lion's pick. And I think they're going to want to start building for the future. That line is getting older. And yet, the way the boards fall into me, I'm thinking about Matthew Golden. They just made a comment how expensive wide receivers are. I don't think they're going to want to sign Jameson Williams to a long-term contract. I think they're going to give them a fifth-year option. So they're going to have to start replenishing that room. And yet, I don't know. What would you take between Booker and Matthew Golden for the Lions? I'm asking you. Oh, I think.

Booker just feels like a lion. So I'm going to go Booker. But it's supposed to be what I'm going to do, but I would too, because in this case, I'm running the lions. And I want to keep the idea of what the lions are all about the same. They've fallen in love Lions fans. I just base this all off when I tweet clips about players and I see which fan bases are you know they all have the same thing but a lot of lines fans are smitten with michael williams who has been long drafted by this point but they are very smitten with michael williams based on my Twitter feed yeah you could definitely see a second edge I uh yeah I spaced a little bit on one available you know it's hard to keep who's available all right commanders you're up who's available because

they might need an edge is that your guy from boston college yeah yeah that's where I'm going with Donovan Eziraku. Is that how you say it? I think so. Isiraku? For Boston College. I'm going to go to that.

commanders need, I think, still defensive help, even though they've done a little bit. Their off seasons was very busy. But, you know, they signed Javon Kinla, who I've had yet to be high on. That's a defensive interior guy who they say there might be an elephant edge as well. But I still think that they want juice on the outside. I think this player is competitive, which is what Dan Quinn loves, has some pass rush chops.

He's long. He's not the tallest guy, but he's long. Got some pass rush movement. A little stiffness, but I think just a, you know, I think this is just a guy no matter what he's going to be a strong contributor. I, uh, I wish I didn't, I didn't give that away, you know, I gave you that pick there because that would be the, the perfect pick for the bills at 30. I'm, I'm quite high on Jaden Higgins and that would be an interesting guy to add to that

mix, but it maybe is a little duplicative of Kean Coleman. I don't really know. So I'm going to go Walter Nolan here, because I do think they're looking defensive line in general and put him with the bill. It's the type of guy that they tend to like, whether that's

always work for them or not. Like I could see them going, Walter Nolan defensive tackle. Mississippi. We've got two picks to go. You got the Chiefs. I got the Eagles. What are the Chiefs going to do? I just think the timeline that they have. They just signed a guy. The chiefs are going

offensive line here. I'm going, I almost went tight end here and went Mason Taylor. Almost. I just want to say, I was ended with a little splash smoke bomb at the end. I really like Mason Taylor. But offensive line, I am going to go Josh Simmons over Banks, but I'm going to go just because they want that

left tackle. Andy Reid probably dreams about burgers and left tackles. And yes, they signed a guy to maybe be a stopgap there, but I think now they got a little bit of path or a little bit of leeway as Simmons comes back from his knee exploding. But very talented player. True left tackle. True upside of being a very good left tackle actually because of his athleticism movement. Some character stuff has probably has cropped up.

But the chiefs do not care about character. Has anyone been paying attention. So that's why I think they'd be comfortable with this. But yeah, Simmons, Josh Simmons, Ohio State. Yeah. Unfortunately, that is that is exactly like that is a chief's pick, which is, all right, let's take the talented. Maybe there's some injuries. concerns. Maybe there's some off-field concerns. Like, give me all your off-field concerns if you're the chiefs. That's just, it's just how it goes. What they do? I will go Mason Taylor, 32, because to me, he is the natural Dallas Goddard replacement. And I think Eagles fans were, as they were getting ready for this job, is like, ooh, Mason Taylor would be a fun second round pick to replace Goddard. I don't

think he's going to fall that far. I don't have any other options that I particularly like at 32. Maybe I'm just not as studied up as I need to be. And I do like this one, because I think they want that sort of player. I think eventually he can develop like Dallas Goddard, by the way, into a good enough blocker or even a good blocker like Goddard. Goddard didn't come in as that guy. And so that's a position that you're expecting development. You've seen it from Taylor.

The floor is high. Certainly is going to be able to play and be a receiver. And then, you know, year three, year four, year five, you're hoping you get that nasty out of him that he reminds a lot of people of Godder, and it really sounds like Goddard might not be on this roster next year, which is surprising to me. He might be part of a draft day trade. So that is how I'm wrapping up our first round. We did it, Nate Tice. Did we? Yeah. Did we? Did we? Did it? Oh, I thought you're saying that we made it under a time a lot. Oh, no way. No, we're over that. But we did it. We did it. We spent

time together. My brain worked hard. To I want to do another mock. We'll see. We'll see if we do maybe get the whole gang together and we'll do one in the studio. We would not ask Nate Tice to do any more work during draft season. He's busy. In draft week, he will definitely be extra busy. So I would not ask you to. I'll be in LA for draft week though.

Oh, you will. I will be in LA. Any NFL network work? Well, it's Yahoo, but I'm trying to like, you know, say hi. See what's over here. Yeah. Let's say what's up. That's interesting that Nate is not allowed to gamble on football anymore because he does

good morning football hits like once a week you know three to you know so it's like there should be once a month no it's not that's not true but there should be like you have to be a full time employee

or you have to like put in 40 hours a week or something like that you're like but I'm only doing like 30 minutes a week an hour a week or something like that no it's the one dollar one dollar thinking you take one dollar of our money yeah I can gamble on sports

see I thought the rules changed that it was just I couldn't gamble on football No, you can't get more lenient. No, it's just sports. It supports again, which is why all coaches and everybody are addicted to horse racing. Which makes no sense. Why is that okay? And the answer is because 100 years ago, like the owners owned a bunch of horses and, you know, even the Steelers, you know, back of the day.

Like, that's how they got that money famously. There's still some. Yeah, the Roonies. The Roonies. Big day at the horse track and then bought the Steelers, quite an investment. They biff tannied it. Nate, I always appreciate having you on again. Check out football 301.

We will be back on Wednesday morning. Looking forward to this show. We're going to be talking with Nick Shuck. We're going to talk some over-unders are already out. We're going to talk some offensive line. And yeah, when I'm going deep, like comparing Mason Taylor to Dallas. Got her football is back. Hey everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here.

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