NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - NFL ATL: Draft winners and losers

Episode Date: May 11, 2014

A room partially full of heroes -- Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Kevin Patra -- break down which teams were the biggest winners and losers at the 2014 NFL Draft. With the help of Dan Hanzus and Marc Sessler, live on the scene in New York, the gang delivers the comprehensive last word on all the happenings at Radio City Music Hall.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What is happening? The NFL draft is over. Thank God. Wow. Come on. You're not excited. I know that feeling after three days of sitting in that seat in Radio City Music Hall. It's interesting that, yeah, it becomes a situation where you feel like,

and we commented on it, Mark and Alex, one of our photographers, and Handsome Hank, the notorious DOP, that at a certain point it feels like, Mark, I believe you said it, that you're in a submarine that is sunk to the bottom of the sea and you're trapped together. Shocking that Mark would have a water image in there somewhere. Well, we've got a lot to talk about. We did the first round picks on Thursday night.

That feels like so long ago. So we're going to go over some big stories from day two and three of the draft, and then we'll get into the meat of the show, some winners and losers, and then we'll set Mark and Dan Free into the New York night. What are on the plans today? Tarioki night, gentlemen. Are you serious?

What's your song? Top is 27 downtown. Getting together with some old high school friends. Mark's going to tag along. I'm hearing about this just now. Ryan Machiagnan and I Karaokeed the Humpty Dance the other night at Jokers Daily. Man, this sounds like an awesome plan if I was 24.

All right. Why do we start with Michael Sam? Just because it's so fresh in our minds and we're going to get to the big football story soon, but it's rare that the draft ends with a big story. And this happened. Only a few picks left in the draft. And it's kind of the lasting memory that a lot of people have from the draft,

certainly from day three, which was quiet. Michael Sam gets taken by the Rams. Mark, Dan, what was the reaction there in New York? He got a nice reaction. I think once you got to the seventh round and it started to progress, you could kind of sense it that people were just kind of keyed in on that. And I believe it was the Cowboys had a pick earlier in the seventh round,

and the first name of the player they selected was Michael, and the crowd made, you know, audibly sighed or groan. when it wasn't Sam and then when the Rams came up and it was Sam it was a really nice you know there wasn't a lot of people in the building at that point this is an event that

stretches about six hours or so on the final day Saturday but the people that were in the building everybody got on their feet and there was a nice applause and then a little bit of a Michael Sam chance so it was a nice moment to close the draft the NFL avoided some bad

press I feel like what this is whether it would been fair or not is not a conversation for this podcast, but it would have gotten, the NFL would have gotten, and we talked about this, when this announcement, Sam first made his announcement, and, you know, if, and it maybe it wouldn't have been the NFL's fault because there's been a lot of talk that this guy doesn't have the measurables or the abilities to be a real competitive NFL player, but that narrative would have taken off if he didn't get picked. So the NFL, yeah, certainly dodged a bullet.

By getting him on a roster, it saves a lot of headaches on Park Avenue. Well, he would have been signed quickly anyways, but it just would have been a bad luck. And it's not a surprise to me that Jeff Fisher, of all people, we talked about the Giants and the Steelers, might have been teams that would take Sam for the good of the league. I mean, no one is more of a league guy than Jeff Fisher. He's the head of the NFL's competition committee. He cares about the bigger picture, and who knows, maybe that's a factor. And Michael Sam went to school locally.

So he's already accepted in that area. And Fisher said right away that he'd been thinking about this for the last week, and it's kind of like, it's great Sam got drafted, but then again, if he was undrafted, he could have picked his team. This is going to be a tough team to make with that defensive line.

It's about as loaded as it gets. I thought it was a cool moment. It certainly, you know, they had him and the boyfriend, and it probably made a lot of people uncomfortable around the country. I sort of like that. It's good for people to get uncomfortable. Thought?

I agree that it's good for people to get uncomfortable. All right, let's move on to the day two and three highlights and just kind of go through them one by one. Derek Carr really started the biggest news, I would say, to start day two, going to the Oakland Raiders. You mentioned him, Chris Wesleyan, as a guy who could play right away in Oakland. And you got some Raiders fans upset.

Raiders fans were born upset Well, wait, slight modification Raiders fans were born upset at Chris Wesleying Well, maybe they should be more upset at their franchise. That would probably be better directed. But okay, so I think it's no secret that I think Shob is done as an effective starting quarterback So I don't see why the guy who was drafted right around the same place

as Andy Dalton couldn't come in and start in a similar fashion And the only reason I would be skeptical is that Reggie McKenzie has drafted Tyler Wilson and signed him at Flynn and signed Matt Schaubb. So I'm waiting to see what he knows about quarterbacks. Not a promising track record when it comes to picking your quarterback group. I would say one thing. Because I could have seen a team do this, which is take a guy like Derrick Carr in the first round much higher up, which just sets him up for. absolute speculation and the potential implosion. At least they got a great player number one.

I'm with you, Chris, though. Tara Carr is one guy that I would say, just by the pedigree alone, I am suspicious of. That might not be fair, but I... That is so unfair. I wanted to see Houston double down and go Carr part two. It's very fair in the sense that David Carr was much more highly rated coming into the league.

And we never really got a chance to see what David Carr could do. my opinion, the situation he got to put into, one of the all-time, arguably the worst situation a rookie was ever put into. Well, I think we saw, we got quite a chance to see him play. I'm across the room from Dan here, and we are glaring at each other. Yeah, this is becoming awkward already. Dan's point is fair, too.

That was an awful offensive line they put him behind. That's an excuse, though. If he was going to be a great quarterback, he would have become a great quarterback. But he did get gun-shy. You could see it in his play after that as well. Even the owner admitted that. Right. But isn't that what bad quarterbacks do? They They are put in a bad situation and it snowballs, and some can overcome that.

This is a tough one. Now we're defending. Let me just repeat my point there, not to belabor this, but there's a difference between a bad situation and David Carr's situation. So I just, I think he was in a uniquely bad situation. And I just think this guy, Derek Carr deserves the benefit of the doubt. It's 10 years later, 12 years later. It's a different dude. It's a different world.

It's a different NFL. So I don't know. I think too many people have written this guy off. as potentially a bus just because something that happened in an NFL century ago. And we do know he has some tools. He does have a strong arm. Nobody's doubted that. He does have

some athleticism. I think he could be good whether he would be good to come in right away for the Raiders remains to be seen. We know that other teams did like him. The Titans were willing to take him if the Raiders didn't. And that would have been another plug-in play. It's one of those other things. I love thinking about this and I love

these stories on Draft Weekend of what was going to happen and just how that would change everything. Ian Rappaport reported the Titans were set to take their car. And so he would have been in competition with Jake Locker. He could have been their guy for the future. Instead, they wind up with Zach Mettenberger four rounds later. And for Raiders fans, this is a rare draft where they're going to get some real hope and some love

and some kudos from the national press, which is worth about nothing. But you got Kaleo Mack, you get Carr, and you get a couple big guys in the next couple rounds. And then Mike Mayak says, look, the Raiders are four for four in picks. When is the last time you heard anyone say that about the Raiders? Well, one thing about this Derek Carr thing, one last thing. When you talk about, oh, the Raiders have done a nice job because they've drafted a rookie that's not going to be thrown into the fire, nothing about Matt Schaub has me convinced that he won't be an utter train wreck by about a week four. This guy, Carr is going to be on the field by October.

I could see that happening very easily. He was one of the big stories early in that round. But I think one of the other ones was another guy that fell Marquise Lee going to the Jaguars. Then later they draft Chris Wessling's favorite rookie wide receiver, or one of his favorite guys coming out, Alan Robinson. They also say that Justin Blackman's career with the Jaguars is probably over. They say he's done for this year and they certainly make it sound like he's never coming back. Are the Jaguars a little frisky here with this receiver combination?

I think they are. You take both of those guys and then Cecil's shorts. The strength of their games, all of them, is run after the catch. They're playmakers. And I think it's fair to say if Marcus Lee and Sammy Watkins both came out in 2013, Lee could have gone ahead of Sammy Watkins. Absolutely. I think he would have this past year really dragged him down.

And I'm not sure that it was completely his fault. He had some injuries. And the quarterback play at USC was God awful, just terrible. so he didn't get any help and the nagging knee injury which scared some teams off is a partial concern but I don't think the Jags have any concern I think in today's NFL with the bubble screens I think it fits his game perfectly I think that was a great pick by the by the Jaguars and I think Jacksonville has done a nice job in short order of revamping the entire offense you've got in theory a franchise quarterback and Blaine Gabbard is you know 3,000 miles away

that's good you've got what they what they're calling is their new franchise running back, you know, their workhorse, and their wide receiver core, which was, you know, three days ago in Shambles outside of, with, you know, at the loss of Blackman, is suddenly completely intriguing. They've done a good job here in Jacksonville. I think that fan base, which is essentially had nothing to cling on to for half a decade plus, if not a full decade, they do now. You had me with the 3,000 miles, although I feel like it'd be better if he was in Hawaii.

I mean, just to make a couple thousand miles. just to make sure. But then you lost me with the franchise running back. I don't know about Toby Gerhard. I'm not calling him that, but they're calling him their bell cow. Just keep doubting Toby Gerhardt. I know Wesleyan loves it. We none of us know how that will work.

But Gearhart has done well in limited duty. I mean, it's like they're just hoping that works out. He's not their only running back. But again, all bad teams, it goes back to the wild card at quarterback, the X factory at quarterback. We don't know what Blake Bortals will give. We know what Chad Hennie is not going to be a good quarterback. We still don't know about Blake Bortals.

By the way, I love how much more comfortable we are talking about Alan Robinson and Toby Gerhardt than we are talking about Michael Sam. It's like, hey, these are guys. I don't notice that as well. I put that on you, Greg. Yeah, I know. It's my bad leadership and hosting. I guess I can't wait until Dan gets back here.

We need you. But since I'm not where I was going. This is, Greg, this is what I would suggest. Make a deep breath and then make eye contact. contact and set everyone at ease with your eyes. Oh, you didn't see this. That doesn't make it. It's not easy.

Yeah, I tried. I tried. Well, since I am in the host chair, we can talk about the Patriots as much as I want. Jimmy Garapolo. Forget Tom Brady. We've got a new quarterback of the future. Tom Brady's old news. Or as I like to call him, Rohan Davy.

There is a... By the way, you want to talk about draft losers. Tom Brady is certainly one of them. You know, instead of building up the roster for one left crack at a Super Bowl with Tom Terrific, they invested their second round pick on his replacement. The NFL is a cold-blooded league, but even Thomas would be like, come on, Bill, I trusted you. What does it say about Dan that I thought he was going to say Tom Brady was the biggest loser because Garablo was more handsome than him?

That's what I was just Googling. I would say Brady's probably hotter still. Give Garabolo a couple years and to get his millions. You know rich people are always better looking. I thought you were going to go somewhere. I didn't know, but definitely non-football, wife-related. So we were all on the same page. There's a difference, though.

There's a difference, though, between Garapolo and Ryan Mallet and who is the guy? Kevin O'Connell, who they took. So this is something they've done before, Rohan Davy back in the day with a different quarterback. There's a difference. Garapolo will be under contract when Tom Brady. he's 40 years old. I mean, I love Tom Brady, but there's a chance. I think we can accept that he's no longer the starting quarterback of the Patriots when he's 40 years old.

I'm still convinced he's playing at 50, and then at one point he's, you know, has like a major laceration, and it's just metal robotics underneath the skin. Wow. Even when Mark's talking about a quarterback, iconic quarterback being a robot, it turns out there's a major injury that lets us know that that's the truth. Do you really believe he couldn't play with the way he plays in the pocket? I mean, he's not all about getting out. He couldn't play into his 40s?

Do you really believe that? Yes, it's four years from now. What usually happens in these situations is they can still throw fine, but they can't escape pressure anymore. And they don't recover from injuries nearly as quickly. Or you get happy in the pocket. Who knows? Maybe he could.

He's got four guaranteed years. He has the weirdest contract in the NFL, a fully guaranteed. Well, a girl who has a history of taking. you know, town heroes and shredding them. Bernie Khosar cuts, sets the city on fire. He got Drew Bledso out of there. I mean, listen, I understand that, you know, the Brady thing sounds crazy to let him go, but Belichick is not an emotional guy.

He's ruthless. I think Belichick also, you know, people talked about, oh, he'll be gone in two years, three years. Yeah. I think he would love to prove that he can win games with the next quarterback. Yeah. I can't wait until Belichick calls Brady into his office to cut him and puts out his cigar right on his forehead. Oh, my God. Let me tell you something.

I am God. Well done. Well done, Gold Standard. How was your draft, by the way? Do you watch the NFL draft? I did. I watched all of the NFL draft. I even threw out some tweets for Dan.

Yeah, he did. And I think it's time that we start giving Gold Standard some respect. Yeah, that's fair. As a football fan, he's been plugged in. He's been active on social media, mostly with, sports on the other side of the ocean, but you can tell he's putting in the effort, and you really got to respect that. I appreciate that.

Well, let's put you on the spot then. What do you think? Is Jimmy Garapolo going to eventually succeed Tom Brady in New England? See, I don't know my Eastern Illinois football well enough, but I will say, hey, look at that, right? It is over. But I will say that I think it was a really, it looked like it was the product of a ton of soul-searching from Belichick. Like you have all those quarterbacks on the board. I thought he might wait till later and get like an Aaron Murray,

even though he's not like Tom Brady. Wow. I thought that might have been an interesting move. All right. I've got a couple things to say based off of that. Mark and Dan, you don't have to go home. Patra, you're fired. Gold standard's going to run the Around the League podcast and everything else.

Very kind. Fair enough. Fair enough, Patras is it. Fair enough? What do you say to that? Garapolo is also the least known quantity out of all of them, too. So it's kind of Belichickian to take that least known quantity and bury him for three years and then try to weasel a third round draft pick out of somebody as well.

Yeah, it's just an insurance policy. Don't get me wrong. I am the biggest Tom Brady guy ever. But it's a possibility and they wouldn't take a guy this high. And I think maybe there's a little bit of it's not too bad to stoke Brady's fire as he's getting older in years. And I think there's definitely something to what Sessler said that it's a bit of an indication that maybe Belichick is thinking beyond just the Brady years. He said you've got to take a quarterback.

back too early than too late, and here he did. Let's get to a couple of veteran-wide receivers. Hey, one more point I need to make, Greg. Please do. I just want you, you're certainly aware of it, but I wanted to really soak in that this weekend represented the beginning of the end, of the Tom Brady era, and your little glory ride officially in the back end. You are in the back nine, the sun's going down, you're on the 17th hole, so just savor it.

And when I told you that Mark and I were listening to The Living Years by Mike and the Mechanics on Thursday night after the draft, there are some parallels between Tom Brady and those cute Patriots fans, and it's all over. It's ending. Say you love him. Make sure he knows it before he's gone. Side note here, Dan is dressed from head to tow in Navy, what I would call, like a Jets Green with a green cap on two. I don't know where he got this, but this guy is rocking the Jets color. I don't know what Mark's talking about right now,

but it's okay. I've been amazed the last couple years that it hadn't already crumbled. I am fully aware. I've enjoyed this all. When they lost the second Super Bowl to the Giants, that was the moment where I just thought, all right, well, they're not going to get another one with Brady. So it's all been gold, and it's been fun. I'm ready. Yeah, I probably am right, sadly. Let's talk about a team that has a good chance to

win a Super Bowl in the next couple years. The San Francisco 49ers, how's that for a professional segue? Do we like the Stevie Johnson trade to San Francisco? I do. I think when you're a contender, you owe it to yourself to get proven players and embrace your championship window, which they're doing. They needed a third receiver. Stevie Johnson came cheaply.

You don't have to pay him a lot of money. As Greg pointed out, he falls under the heartline for the acceptable amount of money to pay for a second-tier starting-wide receiver. Brian Hartline even responded to that tweet, which I appreciated. Who knows? Maybe he's even listening. Do you need to explain the heartline? He's a friend of the Around the League podcast. Yeah, was a great guest.

The heartline is really wide receivers that make $6 million a year. So if you're under that and you're a starter, that's kind of like the baseline for a so-so starting wide receivers. So they have a pretty good deal with Johnson. Why not? It seems like a nice, does Stevie Johnson make the Niners as wide receivers? receiver corpse better. Obviously. So is he the speedy gamebreaker we all wanted them to get?

Not exactly, but he's a great guy, gives them some depth, and I think he'll make some plays. I think I like that move. I thought it was good. Hashtag analysis. There's so much more improved in the passing game from where they were in September and October of last year when Kaepernick was throwing to either Bullden or Vernon Davis, but rarely to both of them.

Right. They got a million guys. There's no way Brandon Lloyd's making this team, by the way. Quentin Patton might not make the team. It's a fair point. I think it's a good move in that he, Stevie Johnson's good at getting off press coverage and running option routes, and those are two things of the Seahawks do well. So I think that's a good move to counter what they've been doing.

I think we should just end it there. That's such a good point. And they did take, well, I'm going to add one little thing. They did add a speedster eventually. It was the fourth round, but it was Andre Ellington's cousin, who's also a speedster, Bruce Ellington. So who knows? Maybe he'll help out. Now let's get to a little bit of a downer for the week.

And it concerns your Browns, Mark. You know where I'm going with this. After the ecstasy of Thursday night, we got news that Josh Gordon is facing a potential lengthy suspension, according to Ian Rappaport. We don't know anything more than that other than he failed a drug test. And it sounds like he could be out for a chunk of the season. We'll see. We don't really know how long it's going to be.

Describe after Thursday's high what that was like finding out on Friday. You know, I would say that there was a period of waking hours of maybe eight or nine waking hours of unbridled optimism, quickly torched to the ground like a dry wheat field. I mean, just utterly eradicated. And with Gordon, it was always a sense of, hmm, there's no sense that this guy has had some sort of Chris Carter turnaround. It was, the other shoe could drop at any moment. And somehow, because it's Cleveland, the timing was. I know. It was so Browns.

And just, you know, the other shoe dropped. And there were a lot of Browns fans in that Radio City Music Hall center. And you could just sense that they were, as the news was kind of spreading across the room, and then when Cleveland doesn't take a wide receiver, which I understand, they're going to stick to their draft board, and they can talk about that until they're blue in the face. But your fan base doesn't understand that sometimes. And I think that the trajectory of that whole draft went down sharply from there and never really recovered. I felt bad for Mark immediately when the news hit, but I didn't really.

really feel genuine pathos until he tweeted out, watch out for Charles Johnson, seventh round draft pick last year for the Packers. Yeah, no. Coming off ACL surgery? I felt genuine pathos at that point that Mark was tweeting about a guy who was cut by the Packers picked up by the Browns and the Browns didn't know that he already had a torn ACL. You know that I'm just wandering the darkness for answers at that point. I felt awkward, to be honest.

Like, I saw that, and I almost, I couldn't say anything. It was kind of like the moment in the video that Dan Hansis was nice enough to put up on YouTube, which is just amazing. Like, I am so happy I didn't go to New York this year, just so Mark could be there and enjoy the Johnny Mansell pick. Over 700 views on YouTube, folks. It's sublime. It was, and you're just looking at that. And I immediately said when I saw it, it's like, it looked like Mark was watching his daughter. Not that he has a daughter, but if he did walk down the aisle at her wedding or something, it was beautiful.

I booked market so I could watch it any time I get seasonal depression in Chicago. I like that. The 20 to 24 second mark of that video is simply iconic. Listen, one thing, Kevin Patcher of all people, knows that when you root for a team that's been in the gutter for decades on end, that there's a laundry list of negative experiences. And this is a bad one, and it's high up there because of like the mountain top. The topic's positive side that it came off of, but Browns fans will live. I mean, they've been through one thing after another.

That's life. Dan, you should tell the listeners what to search for on YouTube for this video. Yes, I can do that. If you do a simple web search. Google will do. If you do a simple web search, title it The Sizzler reacts to JFF to Browns. It will bring it up, and you can check it out. I would think that most of our listeners or many listeners have seen it,

but it is, it's must-see TV in the greatest sense. And news to Nate Burl, I think the saddest moment of the whole thing was after this, Gordon, when we found out Nate Burleson, oh, by the way, happened to break his arm. Again, again, same one he broke last year. Stop delivering. You know, let's go through one last couple picks. from the last day and then we'll get into our winners and losers quickly are quarterbacks that were taken on day three. I'm going to throw out four of them and you guys can

just pick one that strikes your fancy. AJ McCarran winds up in Cincinnati. Erin Murray winds up in Kansas City backing up Alex Smith. Those are both fifth round picks. Tom Savage, Gil Brant's boy, falls all the way to the end of the fourth round. He goes to Houston and then the Titans Duke take a quarterback but they wait till the sixth round for Zach Mettenberger, how do we want to frame this? Maybe which one of these four do you think is a legitimate threat at some point, maybe not right away, but at some point to start some games for these teams? Can you say none of them?

Yeah, none of them is totally acceptable. Well, I'm still not convinced that Tom Savage is a real person. So I'm going to leave him out. And I think the thing I'd pick is that all three of them or all four of them will be on a different team four years from now probably. But McCarran, only because the Bengals seem obsessed with completely mid-level mezzanine-level quarterback play, that he fits that bill perfectly. And I could see them making a big splash move by replacing Andy Dalton with A.J. McCarran, get excited.

This is a very tough day for A.J. McCarran, the newsbreaking. And then Ian just went down a laundry list of issues that front office officials had in their pre-draft meetings. one was the unknown factor of if he could handle adversity. Another was if his teammates like him, another one was can he lead his teammates? Another one was that he didn't participate in a senior bowl in his hometown. Another one was that he took part in a reality show with his fiancé. Or he might, yeah.

Did anyone call him? A lot of things that the team was kind of rubbed the wrong, the teams are rubbed the wrong way about. it does not sound and it also ties back into my theory from a couple weeks back he's a thug I tell you did anyone call him Eddie Haskell that's my favorite derogatory term from scouts wow it's a it's a reference to leave it to beaver Eddie Haskell was a kid who was always you couldn't trust him you couldn't take him

at face value he was always trying to put something over on somebody Wes I completely know who you're talking about you know I watch that show and rerun format in our youth when we were pretending to stay home I just think it's an awesome reference that nobody possibly gets and scouts are still using it to describe players. I know that reference. I remember watching that show on Nick at Night as a boy, and Eddie Haskell was a .

So, you know, you connect the dots on this, and you can see what the big problem is for this young gentleman. One last thing on McCarron. I think this was probably the best possible landing spot for him. It's a great landing spot for anyone. He's Andy Dalton's Bengals future is kind of up in the air. A.J. Green's a true number one receiver. They have two good running backs right now.

They have good secondary receivers, two good tight ends, a good offensive line. They have Brown's legend Jason Campbell in the way, though, on the deputy. Captain Checkdown. There's a rule in the NFL that Jason Campbell can never be with a team for more than 361 days, though, so he'll just wait that out. He will be working at Walgreens by next April. He will be, who? Jason Campbell, a Walgreens checkout artist. He always gets a job, it's just he can't keep one.

He will be working alongside McCarren's agent, the guy who told him to not play at the Senior Bowl. How did that work out for you? Don't want to hurt your draft stock by playing at the Senior Bowl. Then he goes to the fifth round. Yeah, this should be a lesson to prospects. Unless you are Jadavian Clownie and you're a once-in-a-generation or once-in-a-decade-type talent, you know, you should probably get yourself out there and try. trust your abilities. I feel like this happens every year, but why, you know, why wouldn't

McCarran have taken part in the senior bowl when he was aware? But that's the other thing about him, is that he thought he heard some people telling him, some chatter that he was going to go between 16 and 35. He ended up going 164. So I know this, there seemed to be a lot of disconnect with this guy. Yeah, don't win too much either. I guess that's what people should have learned. Right. And he also, he blew the Titans off for doing a workout for them at one point, just seems totally insane. Total Eddie Haskell move. You know where I know Eddie Haskell from a rep in the eight-mile movie?

Sounds about right. That's their generational gap that we trickled down. Hey, guys, Tate Diggs followed me on Twitter today. Me too. Me too. Why did I get one? He must be a loyal podcast listener. I don't know.

It just seemed really random that this fantastically handsome African-American actor would suddenly follow me on. Twitter. I'm very excited about it. Is he one of those weird celebs that just follow 70,000 people for some weird reason? I have a feeling that that might be what actually happened, but hey Diggs. I think he's got like a 22-year-old

assistant that's into football. This guy's never even seen his own Twitter account. One last thing on the Texans and Tom Savage? Oh my gosh. Well, this guy is a project in like a 90s nerdy chick

has to be reworked over kind of way. So, and not until the hour into the film, will this guy get better looking for the Texans? Which means, let your case Keenum flag fly. Oh, my gosh. I like it. I like it a lot. I wasn't planning to do this, but let's just start the winners and losers now off of that because I'm going to give the Houston Texans a big fat loser for just inspiring that sentence

and the fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick as a starting quarterback for the whole season is a thing that may be happening. They looked at what the Jaguars did last year with Henny and Gabber in that coaching staff's first year, and they said, we can be more depressing than that. I mean, this is not an exciting group. Houston. Even though you get Clowny, you get the loser. Let's go around.

Little winners and losers. Why don't we start negative? Let's start with Mark Sessler. Get negative. All right. I think it's tough for me to come out and say this team has completely failed, but I don't like the way that, the Buffalo Bills with a shaky scenario gave up next year's number one.

I like the idea of going out and getting the Sammy Watkins, but I think they got fleeced in that trade, and there's a lot of pressure on that organization to make the playoffs next season. I can't analyze what they did from the fourth round on. I'm not sure who a number of those guys are, to be honest. Russ Cockrell from Duke, great pick. Oh, yes. Well, he is a broad.

Do we have to bleep that out? It's implied I don't like the way they started that off There is a lot of heat on that team To suddenly win a very tough division When you got the Patriots in there If you kind of break down What the trade was all about

And then the trade to get Stevie Johnson I mean the upgrade from Sammy Watkins From Stevie Johnson Should be significant And it should help them for years and years But man they gave up a lot To get that upgrade I mean, it's a type of upgrade that it needs to make an impact in the next year or two,

or this coaching staff and GM, they won't enjoy those years of Sammy Walk and some other staff will. Let's go to another losing team. How about Patra? Let's get a loser. I don't know if I like the term losers. Everybody added players, losers not as good of a draft meeting. That's fair. If you're doing winners and losers from draft weekend, you would have way more winners than losers because it's just kind of silly to kill teams.

One thing I, one team I didn't think that addressed all their needs was the Chargers. They didn't get a wide receiver until the seventh round is a slot, slim prospect that's not going to get off a press coverage. So I think that that was a big hole for them going in and a deep draft with their wide receiver group. And they didn't address that until very late. And I still think they're Keenan Allen and who. They got a short cornerback when they're going against taller receivers with the Denver Broncos. When you look at their division, I think all the other teams got better and they didn't. Two of the teams definitely got better in the Broncos and the Raiders.

You can argue about the Chiefs all you want. And then their second round pick, outside linebacker, I think he's a year or two away from being an impact player, so I don't think they got much impact in this draft. In true Chargers fashion, they're kind of the team that gets noticed the least. They're up there in terms of the NFL, and they probably took the draft class that got noticed the least. I mean, no one knows Jason Verrett and Jeremiah Attachu and Chris Watt.

Love Jason Barron. Yeah, I'm not saying they're bad picks. They just kind of flew below the radar. Dan, give me a loser. I think you have to know where I'm going with on this one. No, I don't. Dallas Cowboys. Oh.

And it's not just because it cost me multiple sandwiches. It's because, you know, Jera, Jera lost his nerve. He had Johnny football lined up at number one at the Fix 16. It was acknowledged that Manzell was on top of the draft board at that point. And yet he, he, he, listen, he went out in my mind, and he went with a tackle and Zach Martin. That's okay, that's nice that that helped fill the need. But I think if it was a Jerry getting gun shy on the worst possible stage. And then he's even giving interviews after the fact and calling Johnny Mandel Elvis and all the stuff.

It's like, even, I mean, Tony Robo, I guess he should feel better about this because obviously that didn't draft a quarterback. but at the same time, Jerry Jones is basically telling you, this guy is my hero, and I want to be with him, but I can't do it. I just need to stay with my current wife. So a little down about that situation, and then you go down the draft. This is a team we talked about it leading up to the draft with a lot of holes. All right, so they filled a hole in the offensive line. Then they trade their third round pick to move up 13 spots.

I think it was in the second round. They get to Marcus Lawrence, the guy that, you know, can get to the whole. the quarterback and maybe becomes their new star to Marcus. And then in the fourth round, they picked Anthony Hitchens. I don't know much about him, but Daniel Jeremiah, a guy I trust says that this was a stretch that they could have gotten him further down the draft. So I just thought it was kind of an underwhelming draft, not gutsy. I wasn't into it.

One counter to that, though, Jerry Jones, a man who has always had money and likes making money. What kind of dough could he had made had he brought Manzell to Dallas? I mean, suddenly that whole thing explodes. He had the fortitude to say, I don't need that cash. For me, it wasn't I got Cowboy's PR right behind me

here. For me, it wasn't that he'd passed on Johnny football. It was that he didn't go defense in the first round, which was clearly their weakest area. And there was a lot of good secondary players that won off the board after that, and their secondary was terrible last year. I'm torn because it was a very

un-jerry move and supposedly reportedly they changed the structure in terms of who's running the draft room that Jerry Jones took a back seat and maybe that really helped make this decision and even when Johnny Mansell was on the

clock, Albert Beer reports they discussed taking the pick so you were that close Dan because he was number one on the board we shouldn't have mocked you. There was a shot there and he basically made the rational decision, I think, because you have so much guaranteed money in

Tony Romo, even though it's not exciting and it's not very Jerry Jones-like. Right, and for the record, I never thought it was necessarily the greatest move for the Cowboys to make, but I thought that what would have gotten it done was just a temptation would have been too great, but you know, if what save them is them

changing the leadership a little bit in that room, I'm a little dubious of that. I feel like Jerry, if anything, at age 71 is going to really button down and be more involved than ever, but If that's what saved them from making this move, we'll see if it ends up being something they're happy about or they live to regret.

I'm hearing that that man, that gentleman that polishes his glasses during Sunday and Monday night games is now in charge of the odd draftic process. His son-in-law? That's disturbing. By the way, as we're taping this, I get a couple direct messages that says, you've got to keep it off the record.

And this is rare that this happens. And we just talked about this about my pick for the losing team for the weekend, the Houston Texans, that Andre Johnson is not happy about what happened this weekend. And, you know, you shouldn't be too excited, too worried that. Who's going to throw in the ball? Right, too worried that your star player is upset. But, you know, you're making Andre Johnson happy that a quarterback.

Someone told you to keep this off the record? No, they didn't say keep, they didn't say keep that off the record. We're cutting this whole part disappears into the evening. Well, how about we bring Andre Johnson to reuniting with Kyle Shanahan in Cleveland? Actually, Andre Johnson is sitting next to me right now, so I will now hand him the phone. Well, he said don't attribute directly to the person. It wasn't anything I couldn't say. How about Wes?

Let's get a pick for a loser, or two, if you feel like it. All right. I like to take a bigger picture view of this. I don't think you can really separate the draft from what else is going on in the offseason. So kind of looking like for playoff teams, how has your offseason compared to other playoff teams and non-playoff teams is your franchise any better within the division?

The Chiefs are much worse in the division. Yes. And they're much worse compared to other playoff teams. They lose 6,000 snaps in free agency. Their first round pick

is basically insurance for Toma Ali. They don't have a second round pick. Their third round pick, Philip Gaines, will allow them to trade Brandon Flowers, so they don't really gain much there.

And may I call them a developmental guy? Their fourth round pick, De Anthony Thomas, called by Rhodo Willowell World's Evan Silva, a guy who basically will not have an NFL career. We'll see. And a fifth round quarterback, and if you listened to Phil Emery, the Bears general manager last week,

any quarterback drafted after the fourth round isn't going to make it. Phil Emery then drafted a quarterback after the fourth round. Yeah, I'm just saying the Chiefs are a much worse team right now, and they don't have benefit of the easy schedule that they had last year, too. They're not going to be a playoff team this year. I think that's a little similar to the Bengals. just because I feel like the AFC North had a great weekend and overall has had a great offseason

and the Bengals have been treading water or backing up. So it is about what teams are doing in your division. I agree with you on the Chiefs. And I would throw the Titans in there too. They entered the offseason with Chris Johnson as their most identifiable player and basically the face of the franchise. They are now a franchise without a face.

They drafted a third tackle in the first round. They already had two starting tackles. and then Bissup Shanky, who is fine, but he's not like an earth-shattering talent at running back. This isn't Adrian Peterson we're talking about. The Titans are a boring team now, and they were before. How dare you? What is more frustrating for a fan base than, hey, we just used our first round pick on a tackle.

And, oh, by the way, we're now looking to trade the current starting tackle. So you've essentially not added any talent to the team. That sounds like a tough sell to me. I don't know why. I've got a feeling about Sanky, though. He's just like his name. He's fun to watch. I feel like he could be your face of the franchise.

I feel like it's also medically unsafe to not have a face. I mean, you're saying, forget it. It's over. Let's be positive here. Let's go to some winners. What drafts did we like? What stuck out to us? Why don't we start with you, Mark?

I like, I don't know. Every year it feels for me like Ozzie Newsom is patient. and they're never drafting high, and so they're very good about allowing their board to be their guiding force, and the right players seem to fall to him. I thought getting C.J. Mosley at 17, great thing for them. They loved having him land there. That's a quality pick, a lot of value. Then in second round, you get Timmy Jernigan.

This is just the Ravens every season. It's like their defense, which a couple years ago was talked about is, you know, in decline. They're getting younger. They're adding parts. They had a free safety later on, Terrence Brooks. I trust the Ravens, and listen, I haven't sat down and watched 400 hours of Terrence Brooks in the secondary, but Ozzy Newsom has, and this guy continues to hit home runs. Greg, you're the undisputed champion of body language,

but Sessler just put on a show during that last monologue about the Ravens draft. He was leaned over his chair looking at his laptop, speaking like a president addressing the nation. after, you know, some major news. So you're telling me that I'm in charge of millions of people and their safety and livelihood. Sure. We could go down that road. I like it.

I trust you, Mark. I would, too. I think if I could elect any one of us president of the United States, I would trust Mark out of our group. The character check would be... I think that would be unanimous. Prohibitive. Well, he would also eliminate electricity and meat. There would be some sweeping changes that would affect each of your lives.

Zach, are you? you even eligible for this after living in England? I am. I am, in fact, eligible. I'm just saying. It's exciting. I could be president, couldn't I? Zach would be another.

You have to be 35. That's true. I can't do it yet. Zach would be another strong option, I feel like. Actually, while I can still do this, I could just, I might as well jump on. Hey, Zach, you and I were the only two guys in the group that can't run for presidents because we're so young. Ooh, like that.

One more year. I'm being ignored again. Oh, yeah. What about Patra? Oh, Patrick. Have fun trying to get car insurance. Patrick looks like he's 40 with that beard. Everyone's never actually met that person.

So that's true. Patra, let's get a loser, I mean a winner from you. I like what the 49ers did, just doubling down on their tough style. In the last two years, they lost Goldson and Wittner as their safeties. Last year they get read. This year they get a hard hitter in the first round, Jimmy Ward. I like Carlos Hyde. Sooner or later, Frank Gore will get overtaken, even though he beats all comers.

He's immortal. It's not going to happen. I like Carl Hyde's game. He could have gone a lot earlier if every NFL team just didn't decide that the running back position was devalued. I like Marcus Martin. They had a need at center. He was Mayak's first number one center, so I like what they did there. And Chris Borland was one of my favorite players to watch last year.

Just at the Wisconsin inside linebacker, just always around. the ball. That is a Jim Harbaugh guy if there ever was one. Not really athletic. There was some questions about his shoulder. But if you watch any Wisconsin game, he was, and every play that was near the line, he was involved in the play. It was ridiculous. So I really like what they did. And then adding Bruce Ellington gives her some speed. And then we talk about team building all the time. And the 49ers have been so good at it. They just started drafting guys for next year. They got two guys that are going to start out the season on the pub list. So I really think what they did in the NFC West was great.

Patrick going deep there. I like that. They also led the draft in trading. I don't know what that's worth, but they traded down like 50 times. It's their move. They're going to use it. Them in Seattle,

I think we're trying to battle this evening. What happened to that San Francisco pass rusher? The guy that, like, had never played football, and it was like either from Germany or Central Netherlands or something. I think it ever came over the one last year? Yeah. From England. Yeah, I don't know.

There was a whole blue about it last year. He was on the practice squad last year. Lauren Secoje. Yeah. Let's get him going. Wait, how does Gold Standard drop that name? He's British. That's what I do.

Gold Standard is on fire right now. By the way, there's no... Hyde is not going to replace him. We went through... We were just naming off the running backs that Frank Gore, the inconvenient truth, has slayed... Kevin Ballo.

Glenn Coffee. La Michael James. Kendall Hunter. Kendall Hunter. Guys show up, Anthony Dixon. Guys show up to San Francisco. excited for their NFL career. Oh, this is going to be great.

I'll learn under Frank Gore. And he basically destroys them all. None of them were as good as Carlos Hyde was. Wait, my takeaway, gold standard, if you're using Google. If you're using Google Gold Standard, may I suggest ask Jeeves a much better search engine.

And this is the man you want to be president. I'm more of a Bing guy. Bark. Are you on a CBS procedural stopping Bing plugs? I had to enter DOS into these computers before I could get on. It's awesome. That's before your time, Dan.

Yeah. Dan, let's get a winner four from you. You know, I know Patrick's not going to like this, but I like what the Chicago Bears did, a team that needs defense. So they just went straight for, and they drafted four defenders in their first five picks. They got some Hog Mollies.

We've got some Hog Mollies up in this mix. Kyle Fuller is a couple of. cornerback who, you know, when you're playing in that division with Aaron Rogers and, of course, Teddy Bridgewater tearing it up, and Matthew Stafford, you need people to cover. Fuller is going to step in and have a big role. Ego Ferguson. How about that?

Great name. I think they should wait for his younger brother's super ego. How are you not going for the Jets? I'm stunned. I don't think they had necessarily, let's state the point. Hang on. Ego Ferguson and then Will Sutton, two defensive tackles. stop the run. I like it.

As for the Jets, I thought they had a solid draft. It wasn't spectacular. You're making it sound like all your previous Jets analysis was sober and rational and fair and balanced. Well, if you go back and listen to it, it usually is, to be honest. I like to pride myself on not being a pie-in-the-sky jet fan. And I take offense to what you're saying. I like the Jets draft.

I mean, yeah, if we want to talk about the Jets, I did like the tight end, I thought that was. That was a nice pickup, and then they, you know, they went and finally addressed the wide receiver position on Saturday. I don't know what we're going to get out of those guys, but I did notice a trend. This is obviously a Rex trait. Pryor is known as a physical safety that punishes a guy in the box, and, you know, you have a huge tight end.

This guy Amaro is 65-265. That's Beasley, and then Jalen Saunders, who they drafted today. Mayock said during the NFL network telecast, despite his size, he's 5-9, that he's the toughest wide receiver in football. I don't even know what that means, but it sounds like the Jets were going for physicality in this draft. You're bearing the lead. Bad news for Cumbie. Jeff Cumberland could be in trouble here. You know what? I had a couple Twitter users that are aware of my affection for Cumbie. I think Cumbie's going to be just fine. He's going to find his role. He's going to find his niche.

and come season's end, he will have six touchdowns and 612 yards of shooting. It would be like the sage older veteran teaching the young buck. So you're saying he's going to lead the team in receiving. Wes had a zinger. You didn't even hear it, Dan. That's a shame. I'm sure it was very positive of him. Wes, let's have some winners.

Well, we've talked about these two teams leading up to the offseason. the Steelers and Falcons both kind of on the precipice as teams that like to fancy themselves as contenders but needed great off seasons the Falcons got so much more physical so much more tougher adding guys in free agency on both sides of the ball on the lines and then their first two picks this year

on the lines, big tough guys but the Steelers I really love how they were a team that Warren Sapp has said it for two and a half years now. Old and slow got to go they turned that around got the fastest lineback in the draft the fastest player in the draft in Dree Archer

their second round pick Stefan Tuett the Steelers believe he would have been a top 10 pick if not for a hernia that he played through this past year fourth round they get that big red zone receiver they wanted

Martavis Bryant who's 6-4 has a Randy Moss frame Deep Threat has the most yards per catch since Herman Moore in college and Clemson guys say faster than Sammy Watkins.

I like it. I don't need to be convinced to get back on the Ben Rathesberger should lead this team to the playoffs bandwagon. I agree with Pittsburgh 100%. Atlanta, until they ripped the roof off that dome, I don't care about them getting more physical and more strong. They play in the most, by far, the most tedious indoor environment in all of sports. Have you missed the Rams games for that? The Rams Stadium looks like a grade school hallway.

That's very fair, and they've built a roster on offense to suggest as much. But Atlanta right now has me, because Atlanta gets put in prime time all the time. That's a fair point. Just sit down for three hours. Have you taken a sleeping pill? No. Just come watch this affair. They're building a new stadium, though.

That's, you know, to their credit. In Mark's eyes, every time we did winners and losers, then the Falcons would just be a permanent loser. What was their record last year, Greg? The Steelers, one of your winners here, they did draft literally the fastest player in the draft and the biggest player in the draft. 352-pound 6-7 defensive tackle, Daniel McCullors. How do you like to get in the mix with him?

They got a lot bigger and a lot more athletic, which they desperately needed. My favorite team, I think, this weekend, was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I mean, they have a strength, and that strength is defense, and they just decided, we're not going to take any defense. We're just going to aggressively fix this offense as much as we possibly could. Mike Evans, Austin, Safarian Jenkins were two of my favorite guys,

just because they're the physical guys who can catch the ball, the point of attack. People compared Separian Jenkins to gronk. They take a good third down back type in Charles Sims, and then they just keep going offense. They matched up a little bit what the Bears did in terms of going for guys that seemed like they'd be good in the Red Zone. Now you've got Jenkins, Evans, and Safarian Jenkins. Sorry, Vincent Jackson, Evans, and Safarian Jenkins.

That's going to be a ridiculous team in the Red Zone. And they were the worst team in the Red Zone a year ago. It's flat-out identity theft. Well, that's good, right? They said with Josh McCown, look what he did with the Bears. So they brought in Mike Evans, who was compared to Al-Shon Jeffrey a little bit. Safarian Jenkins compared to Martellus Bennett. Charles Sims compared to Matt Forte.

It's perfect. They got the same offense. It's genius. Smart. It's smart. Why wouldn't you? I think it's time to go downstairs, update the publish date, and republish that Bucks to the playoffs. I wrote about a year ago.

I am glad you gave that segue because I've been writing that and feeling that all week. I don't know if they're going to become a trendy team. I hope not because they are. I'm picking them to the playoffs. I like the bus. I think they're already a trendy team. They are. I think it's too late on now.

Which means they can't be ATL's team if they're trendy. The day that Lovie Smith got hired, they were a trendy pick, the day. The one big problem there, and by the way, they never traded Mike Glennon. You have a little time left. You have technically until Sunday, right? I have until the end of the day tomorrow. Yeah, but most likely you're going to lose some sandwiches. You're not holding my breath.

Jason Light said today that they had offers and they want to keep Glennon. Good. Chris, you know, we'll get into the, you know, we'll get into the, go get my lunch standings in just the second. But for now, I'm just happy that Chris is awash in 10 sandwiches, which was on the table at one point this weekend. The other team, we got to at least throw out the Browns as a winner. I mean, what Ray Farmer did in the first round.

If you had said that ahead of time that they could have gotten Justin Gilbert, Mansell, and a first round pick, I don't care what happened the rest of the draft. It's not their fault Gordon got suspended. They're a winner. Anyone else have any winners? The city of New York On a Saturday night Oh, it's time to go singing

I agree This sill, that'll just about wrap it up But before we go We will update you On our standings For our sandwiches And we're just going to assume That Wesseling loses the Mike Glennon bet

Is that fair to say, Chris? I am not waving the white flag But I am also not holding my breath All right, but let's say he does lose that By the end of Sunday That's such a West answer, I love it Hey, I don't like losing. Losing's for losers.

That's right. You get the sandwiches if he somehow is traded by Sunday. We acknowledge that. But assuming he's not, we'll end up with Chris Wessling getting four high-octane sandwiches delivered to him. We'll get Mark Sessler tied for first in the standings getting another four high-octane sandwiches delivered to him. Mark's getting four lunches. He doesn't want sandwiches. I am donating mine to charity.

Oh, that's just sad That's why you're president material Yeah, that's exactly what a president would do Zach, we went over the other day You were already done But let me say this I would have paid two sandwiches To get to play in the big boy pool

So thanks for having me Thanks for having me Now that's a president I feel great to be involved You guys should see Zach's face right now I'm beaming He either looks like a politician Or a homicidal maniac

I don't know what is the difference Soccer jersey from southern germany just glowing right now on i'm sure uh i i also owe two sandwiches after this weekend had a slight recovery uh to avoid disaster today and then dan you owe these you owe the group four sandwiches so that's that's a big uh price for you to pay well you know what you got to go you go bigger go home and i i'm i'm proud of my effort i went for something big i went all in on Johnny Manzell, and it turned out it was a smart gamble. It just didn't go my way.

It was like one of those close but no cigar situations, so I look forward to reimbursing the gentleman with a different high-octane luncheon. And which one of us can say, oh, when we speak on the podcast, you know, 12 days later, suddenly Mike Mayock drops a mock draft following that person's advice to a T. Yeah, I think there was a connection there, honestly. Oh, you guys are cute, sticking up for each other in the whole. hotel room in there in New York.

All right, I think that does it. Hold on. We want to thank the at Go Get My Lunch Twitter for the picture they tweeted out of us as duck tails

summarizing to go get my lunch standing. And also I want to also thank Tristan who also has been tracking. It's good to have multiple official scores just kind of a checks

and balances situation. So the Twitter handles great. Tristan, as always, Our best listener, our number one listener, he did a great job with it, too. So, you know, I think we'll have to bring the game back right before the start of the season. Before that. Before that. Start saving up some money.

Yeah, we might have to before that. I don't know what we could really. Oh, yeah. What can we? Nothing's happening. Oh, who had the most. Who had the most interceptions at the OTAs this weekend? We're going to be looking for some content.

We will be back on Tuesday this week. Our schedule is a little different in this post-draft era. at least for this week, we will be back with a new show on Tuesday, but we wanted to get you the post-draft podcast right away. So we thank Mark and Dan for staying in their hotel room late. Guys go out and get into some trouble in New York, and we'll see you on the other side. Have fun, boys. All right, gentlemen.

We miss you. Fairly well. For Dan Handis, Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, Kevin Patrick and the Gold Standard. I'm Greg Rosenthal. We will see you. you on Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah.

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