NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - NFL ATL: Go Get My Lunch -- Draft Edition

Episode Date: May 2, 2014

A room full of heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler -- makes some bold predictions about the 2014 NFL Draft and backs them up by putting some sandwiches on the line.  Elsewhere, the gang runs through the latest headlines around the league and talks through the biggest storylines ahead of next week’s big show at Radio City Music Hall.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, Dan. What was that? You stole my, hey, Dan. Hey, Dan. Oh, that is a weird way to start the show. Yeah, that is. That's ominous. Yeah, right off the bat, a Bunsen burner blowtor.

Well, I know that there's a competitive, a competitive nature to this particular Friday program, and I'm just putting my game face on. Well, that is what is trying to get Wesleyan off his game. That's his opener. Wes is like a little red in the face about this. Greg started mind games. It was sort of mocking Wes in a way more than competing with him. It was an impression.

That's all right. Unlike most players, I'm better when I'm mad. Oh, well, that was... Can't wait. This is all an illusion. Greg said that it's a day of competition. We are bringing back the award-winning series. It has not won any awards, actually, or been nominated for an award.

But that hypothetically could happen down the line are somewhat well. known game go get my lunch go get my award the last part of both of those are implied ah thank you Greg so we're going to play that game and it's going to be a special draft edition where we're

going to get into some predictions and then try to go to each other into some sandwich wagers and mark thank you very much we spoke about it on Wednesday's podcast that we didn't really want to move forward with go get my sandwich until you

paid up your sandwiches and you did it and you did it in spades on Thursday afternoon and style and style great sandwiches from eastborough in downtown Culver city delicious elaborate high octane sandwich contraptions vietnamese sandwiches correct some bondi action how much did that set you back by the way uh that's not important though they were pricey as sandwiches go they were high octane i never actually laid eyes on what they looked like in the flesh i mean i I only saw them wrapped in paper. It's because you don't like flesh. That's fair.

You don't like sandwiches. You don't even like sandwiches. He doesn't even like calling them sandwiches. He called them contraptions in the last podcast. But thank you. You are a man of your word. Lannister always pays his debts. They say on Game of Thrones,

a Sessler always pays his debts. So we're back at zero. No one owes anyone a sandwich at this point. Well, technically, I think I might owe Greg one. Oh, so you have not paid up yet. Yeah. That's a good point. So it's a good thing that it was.

I timely got mine out of the way You actually still owe sandwich Mark actually actually went above and beyond and bought an extra sandwich You pretty much paid Dan's debt for him Well that covers bar tabs over the years

I think we're all the other than that is fair No I thought I said that I would get your sandwich and then you said Don't worry about it I don't remember To Greg this is being said All right how about this By the time this podcast is heard by the listeners

I will have bought you lunch today All right Wait a minute. No, no, no, because... That was, Dan, I got you cover. We're good. Okay. We're all set.

Oh, we're settled. Okay. See, it's a very complicated game on some level. We're going to get into the game, but before we do that, as we always do, there's a lot of kind of news out there. The draft is now, what, six days away? So we turn to the gold standard, the man behind the glass. How you doing, buddy? Happy Friday.

You know, Friday was happy for you last week. You had the phone call. of the woman. Fully expecting another today. There will be no call coming your way today. So he said last time, Dan. That's fair. So stay on your toes, basically.

Hey, let's do some news. Let's do it. Houston Texans general manager, Rick Smith, had his pre-draft press conferences. That's going on all over the league right now. Front offices are sitting in front of reporters and telling them nothing. But, you know, we all do this anyway because it's part of the. the machine that we are part of. And Rick Smith said on Thursday that we are, quote, obviously open to moving out

of the first pick. I wish you weren't a liar. I don't know. Is he lying? It seems like you have the number one overall pick and they have an area in need. They have potentially Jadavian Clowny, Ian Rappaport, our NFL Media Insider reported on Thursday's edition of Total Access that the consensus among all the teams kind of in the mix seems to be. Clowny is the guy that will go number one.

But the Texans, maybe they're holding out for a deal they can't refuse. I don't think anything's changed since last podcast when we said it's a lot harder than you think to trade out of number one. Whether they want to do it or not, of course they're open for business. Yeah, how could that be a lie? Meet my asking price and you got the number one pick. They could be absolutely in love with Clowny, and this has been a game of deception. They've been playing this whole time trying to see. What gain would that do?

What is the point of that as a lie? there is no point what do you mean like what is the what possible advantage would they have to smoke screen anyone to thinking

that they're open for a trade when they're not and they're really they have the one pick there's nothing better they can have anyone they want that's their goal

is achieved if they know who they want right unless someone comes out of the wilderness to use a Sessler term and pulls a DITGA

right that's what we're saying but wouldn't that make them inherently open That's why he's not like to pick. But they're not, that's not going to happen. If this was mock law, what? You're out of the chair.

Case closed. It's over. It's over. No, you're out of order. Greg, leaning hard on your high school. No, I was just excited. What was that, you were in the... Model Congress, I was in.

Model Congress. Was this when you tried to convince America to get rid of the penny? That was one of the legislative endeavors I... Model Congress sounds a tad dirty. it sounds like there's not a lot of girlfriends attached to something like that is that fair or I didn't struggle for girls in high school but I definitely wasn't finding him at model Congress that's for sure

isn't it easier to conceive a team trading up more than ever before because you don't have to pay in theory someone like Sam Bradford 5,000 million million dollars guaranteed it's theoretical yeah but you still have to meet each other's asking prices You have to find common ground on how you value picks. I could see them trading. I love this quote from Rick Smith.

I know if we select first, it's a unique opportunity, obviously, to be the first pick. So if we do select there, I know who we feel good about there. If we move, then obviously variables come into play. That's three ifs in two sentences. Oh, God. One is the draft. He's got us there. He says he knows who he wants.

I believe it, and I believe that they'd be open to trading. Why not? And then on a side note, Ian Rappaport also said Thursday, you know, the Falcons met with Clowny twice in the last two weeks. So they're a team that obviously people are connecting the doubts that they could make a play to get to number one. Another team Rappaport reports is that the Buffalo Bills, who currently sit at number nine, they may also attempt to make a move up. Of course, the big thing here is, first of all, a number one pick hasn't been traded in. 10 years now. That was the Eli Manning draft. And number

two, the understanding around the league is that if you are going to do business with the Texans, you better be ready to sell the farm because it's going to be very costly. I think one place where you could see some major trade activity begin is at that number four and number five

spot where Cleveland and Oakland sit. Both GMs came out with some over-the-top praise for the wide receivers, the Sammy Watkins and the Mike Evans. And there's a lot of teams that want one of those guys potentially, that's where I think someone might jump in. I'm not buying the bills trading up. What do the bills need? A quarterback. They do. They're like a quarterback away from being a playoff team. So how does it help to move up

number one and not draft a quarterback? Well, that's if their front office feels the same way you do. I mean, they just use a first round pick to take a quarterback. Right. But it's not like... And he wasn't ready to play at all. not like with E.J. Manuel, they're one difference maker away from the playoffs. But how about Wesley, how about if they believe behind closed doors, back

channels that the Rams potentially could pull Mansell out of a hat at number two? In theory, if you're Buffalo and you really want to surprise. I believe that behind my closed doors. Maybe you do need to move up to number one because where are you going to move up? You've got Jacksonville at number three, Cleveland, and number four in Oakland at number five. So you're saying the bills might

want Johnny Manzell? Is that what you're saying, Mark? But I wouldn't, if you wanted to do something totally surprising, that would be Buffalo plugging their biggest hole with the most exciting player in football. Suddenly, you're not moving to Canada. I don't like the idea of Johnny Mansell being in the AFC East for a decade. I think they could draft a mid-round quarterback, but even that would be a pleasant surprise because they just seem to be parroting this line

that E.J. Manuel's their guy. And not only that, but they don't want to displace Thad Lewis. the greatest backup in the league. He loves everyone on that roster. I went back and watched Manuel this week. I've started to go back, and he just wasn't ready to play at all. There was very little positive,

and maybe he improves a lot, and they like him behind closed doors for his off-field stuff and all that, but he was so far from ready to play. And we're talking about a quarterback that's had three knee surgeries. Right. That gets forgotten.

And also, I would be shocked if they used a first-round pick on a QB because that, in the NFL, going back-to-back first-round picks on a quarterback, is a huge acknowledgement of organizational failure. And I think pride alone could keep them from doing something like that. Moving forward, Johnny Mansell has already come up in the podcast. I got a feeling he's going to come up a little more once we get to our game a little later.

Here's an interesting post. Greg, you wrote it earlier today. In a poll of 17 NFL personnel people conducted with Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Senatal. Eight of them chose Johnny Manzell as the top quarterback. Four chose Blake Bortles. While two folks, you said folks, nice Greg. Two folks, very foxy, chose Teddy Bridgewater and Derek Carr. Even Zach Mettenberger got a vote.

Greg. I think it's just typical of this draft class that Mansell is the closest thing we have to a consensus, but he didn't even get 50% of the first place votes. He also has 20 executives whether they believed Johnny Manzo would be a hit or a miss. And 12 of them said that he would be a miss. And he's just the perfect symbol, I think, of this new type of quarterback that the NFL really doesn't know what to do with. Even though he's the best quarterback in this draft, half the league basically thinks he's going to be a washout. How would you like to find out that the team that you root for is being operated by a general manager that voted Zach Mettenberger as the best quarterback?

Haba, Haba. Home run. That wouldn't make me feel good at all. From what I've read about, Zach Mettemberger, he's essentially a 36-year-old Drew Bledso. That's great That sounds awful And as the gold standard knows Behind the glass

You never trust a Zach That spells it with an H Absolutely true Because that would be Zatch Zatch is not correct And the patron saint of Zach's Zach Morris of course Same by the bell

Zach attack That's how you spell the name Totally I'm with you Great band Zach Attack They had some nice Nice numbers As my father would say I like the comparison

In the article A couple executives made to Michael Vick. And they were basically saying Manzell and Vic, they put them together. And they're saying, was Vick's career even a hit or a miss? How would you classify it? Because they think Manzo will have some big ups, some downs. You know, he made a lot of money.

He got people excited. He won a playoff game or two. He went to federal prison. Right. Well, that's a whole other thing. But otherwise, there are some similarities there. I thought that was an interesting question. I did not have an answer for whether.

his career as a hit or a miss. I think if you took away the dog fighting, which is a big if, but we're just talking about play on the field, I'd give it a slight hit. Wouldn't you say that Vic had to force old-thinking coaches to rethink how the positions played? And that's where I think Mansell is probably out of the game for a big chunk of teams because of the coaches they have in place

that say we don't know what to do with them or we don't want to figure out what to do with him. He's got to fit with the right team, as did Vic, but I think it's an interesting comparison. I wrote about that this morning that Jake Plummer and Doug Flutie both kind of worry that once NFL coaches get their hands

on Mansell, they'll take the fun out of his game. They'll turn him into a robot and he won't be able to succeed like that. It's a different NFL. There are no Drew Bledsoe is coming out. It's just a matter of how athletic your quarterback is because they're all somewhat athletic. A guy like Mike Glennon gets tabbed as an unathletic guy.

And if you watch it, he's a lot more athletic than a Brady or Man. They're all athletic. And it's like the NFL is now trying to figure out, what are we going to do with these guys? Because Mansell's a lot closer to a Russell Wilson or a Kaepernick in the league's change. It's very interesting to watch. Mike Mayock had his final conference call with reporters on Thursday afternoon. I found the most entertaining part of the press conference is when he excused himself to use the men's room, said he'd be gone 30 seconds, was gone probably 45 to 50 seconds.

That's quick. What did you deduce from that? I don't want it. I don't think I should get into it. That makes me think less of them because if you're going to interrupt a call, I feel like that should be for something serious. Vanish for three or four minutes. Big deal.

I also, the other thing I like, and I guess this is. Bring a newspaper with you. This tells you, you know, how much I really took out of it. But it's not true. But I also liked when he, whenever he gets stern with the guy screening the calls, the guy that's in charge of it. And he's like, now. Next caller, and you could tell Mike Mayotte.

Yeah, moderator. Let's pick up the pace. So anyway, Mayok said on Thursday. That's Wes. If Wes gets to the point where he's doing national conference calls, that's so, Wes. What? I could see that. I have very good people skills.

I would never treat any. You said you hate people. That's just what I say. I once had a girlfriend and her sister didn't treat like the waitress well, and it was like grounds her. breaking up well yeah and and you're right you're you're good in and people to people scenarios but you also refuse to go shopping for fear of being around too many humans do you know the kinds of creeps that hang out in shopping malls moms you don't want to be there anyway Mike mayhawk said that six wide receivers in his mind could go in the first round this is the group and it's a very

good group Clemsons sammy wotkins Texas A&Ms mike evans those are consensus the top two wide receivers here. And then we have LSU's Odell Beckham, Oregon states, Brandon Cooks, Florida states, Kelvin Benjamin, and USC's Marquise Lee. And he also said he expected five cornerbacks to come off the board. That's 11 of 32 draft picks using my math. That is, what, 11, 22. That's one third just about.

That's accurate, right? He also said five tackles, I think. so that half the first round tackles, cornerbacks, and wide receivers. There you go. Well, right off the bad... Better than last year when it was Jokal and Fisher.

Man, that was... Oh, that was... Brutal. But you could say the Jets, the Eagles, the Chiefs, the Panthers, the 49ers, all primary targets for wide receivers, potentially. And there's more.

He did say, also, a New York reporter asked what the Jets would do. He predicted Beckham would go to the Jets. they do need a wide receiver. Moving forward, Mark, quarterback talk, Cleveland Browns. This is always fun. You know, Vince Young and Tyler Thigpen both worked out with the team this week. We were kind of led to believe as a general public that they were going to pick one of them.

And it turned out on Thursday that they signed both, Mark. So Vince Young and Tyler Thigpin are both now on the Cleveland Browns. What does it mean? I like Vince Young in terms of let's just see what happens here. but they're both quarterbacks that didn't even take an NFL snap last year. So I think if they're in the big plans, you have some concerns in ALE. I tweeted yesterday, and I sincerely believe this, if it plays out where they don't do quarterback,

don't lean hard on a quarterback in this draft, and it's a Vince Young, Tyler Thigpen, Brian Hoyer battle as a starting quarterback, Browns fans, you are free to quit. You're free to quit the NFL. Get out of town. Get out of Dodge because you're staring. at another three and 13, and it's never going to get better. You're a factory of sadness.

That wouldn't even be top 20 worst scenarios that that fan base has been to the last 10 years. Not even close. If you haven't quit by now, that's not going to put you over the top. That's more promising than the most quarterback lineups they've had. The reason I say that is because, and I've been pounding the table. What was their

quarterback lineup last year? I've been standing on the table, vomiting on the table saying, go get Johnny football and revitalize your franchise. If not only do you pass on quarterbacks in this draft, then you go with this poo-poo platter. It's just like, get out, bail. But let's, in your world where that's a bad thing for Brown,

let's just go back just one year where you can pick between Brandon Whedon and Jason Campbell. I'd rather have Vince Young. At the time, you had hopes for Brandon Whedon going into last year because he was okay as a rookie. And we like that. You were the guy that predicted him to be. Not like me.

Yeah, that's true. Of course. Dan said this was a 4,000-yard quarterback. 32 touchdown. And it's a shame that injury robs in them. Lantern in the preseason. I mean, he looked outrageous. He's going to get those numbers over the course of his career.

Maybe. No, he won't. But no, it is. He goes to Canada. It's a totally different scenario because, yeah, he was coming off a rookie season where there were some ups, but this is a situation. These are journeymen. Mark, I'm not going to put a sandwich on the line, but I'd be happy to.

It's just not excited. There's no way they don't take a quarterback. So I don't think we have to worry too much about this. It does make me think, though, these are two guys that ran the pistol formation. Kyle Shanahan's done that looking for a mobile quarterback So what are they looking at? Maybe they're not Johnny football

I think it's interesting I went back and watched what Shanahan did When Kirk Cousin started late in the year Because I thought maybe we have no mobile quarterback And he's still the coordinator Still on every third down play The pistol over and over and over and over First and second never

But it was like he's he is married To running offense out of that formation I don't think it's going away hubba hubba moving forward you know this is kind of interesting with the draft coming up just in blackman i remember in 2012 that was the blackman draft right yeah um there was a video guy that we worked with at the NFL that was a draft uh the first draft that i was involved with and i was in new york and what they do they take around the rookies that they take around the draft guys around the city in the week leading up to the draft and they you know take them

to the New York Stock Exchange. They put him on the roof of Radio City. They do a bunch of photo ops and things of that nature. And I remember this particular video editor telling me that there was one person that stood out. Justin Blackman was miserable during the entire process. And he was very sullen and not friendly and very rude. And I remember thinking, uh-oh, that could be trouble. Now we move to the present time.

Justin Blackman. You are an Iraqi Jr. Wow, yeah. Justin Blackman, unlikely to play in 2014. The only reason it just triggered my memory because we're talking about the draft a lot. But, you know, Blackman's had issues with substance abuse. Jaguars General Manager David Caldwell told reporters on Friday that regarding Blackman, it's not something we're counting on getting back the wide receiver who has been suspended indefinitely

without pay for violating the NFL policy and program for substances of abuse. So kind of it's a sad story with the guy. He's so talented. He showed it whenever he's been on the field, but he has these issues that he's dealing with, and it probably won't let him get on the field. If only they had spoken to a private investigator, Dan Hansis, could have cleared up this character concerns.

He saw it all coming a mile away. You don't want to draft anybody in a bad mood. I hate to say. It was not a bad mood. It was beyond that, apparently. You know, that's what I took for me. This could be another career for you, Dan. Blackman in his first two games back last year

when he was suspended the other time. 19 catches, 326 yards in his first two games. I would love to see a bizarre team like the Seahawks come out of nowhere and somehow convince a regime that didn't draft Blackman and probably views him as a headache at this point. Give him a late round, six, seven round combination pick. Get Blackman on your roster and see if he's ever brought back in the league.

That's some creativity. I like it. He started last year he showed flashes, I thought. Top to making the list leap, and he only played a few games. Not often that you hear about suspended players getting traded, but you can do that. The Cowboys spoke to the Tennessee Titans about trading for Adam Pac-Man Jones back in 2008. And so it's not crazy to me. Why not?

You're still toying around with Sidney Rice. Why not take just a chance on this? Well, I think it goes beyond just taking a chance. It's not like a guy with a bad knee or something. This is a guy with a potential serious drug problem that you're going to take it on into your hands instead of letting someone else out the deal with it. But also a contract with zero guaranteed money.

Jacksonville can get out of it, number one, without costing them anything, but so can the next team. Know what the problem with the scenario is? The Seahawks draft Super Bowl MVP's in the seventh round. Listen, last year, the guy that won the Super Bowl form didn't play till the Super Bowl. Maybe you just wait and see what happens. if you drop Justin Blackman into the NFC West race in week 10.

All right, Mark. I like that. It's amazing, by the way. The Cowboys gave up a fourth round pick for Adam Jones, even though he was suspended. That is bizarre to think about it. Sounds like a Jerry Jones move. Finally, Mark, I just want to throw this one in here

because first of all, you wrote it. And also it kind of spoke, it was almost like your spirit animal in a way. Clipboard Jesus, Charlie Whitehurst stayed in a log cabin at minicamp. This just seems like someone. something you would do. So I'll throw it to you on that. I like it. He basically, it struck me as odd and bizarre because he did not want to pay the rate, the going rate at Holiday Inn. So he decided, and I looked on a map, how far away from

Nashville is this like white sands or whatever campground that he went to? And it's some part of Google Maps where it just ascends into green forest land. So he must have driven up a hill far away to get to this thing. Well, I wanted to find out did he travel 300 miles a night? It wasn't that far away. But honestly, he just signed a two-year, $4 million contract. Is this guy really pinching pennies? Raised some questions.

I brought up downstairs. I thought if we were doing a game where we had to pick the equivalent quarterback for each one of the around-the-league writers, I think Mark Sessler would be Charlie Whitehurst. Mark was offended by the game like that. Well, I thought about it again. I don't like the career implications because it suggests I have. have no talent, but at the same time, right?

Very directly suggests that. Coming from your boss, he was like, wait a minute, what? But he's getting paid well to do very little. That's right. He has a Matt Flynn-like ability to do nothing and continue to stay in his industry and make more money with this last contract than we ever thought he would. And more than Russell Wilson. And then to take it back to the real world, he'll make more money in this two-year deal than you'll probably see your entire life. So it's not that bad.

I was saying really more of his human spirit, like he's a man of the woods. He's a minimalist. I bet he likes Kerouac a lot. You know, that's more what I was getting at. Do you think Charlie Whitehurst has ever even heard of Jack Kerouet? Yeah, I think he's into it. I think he surfs while reading Jack Carrowick. I think it's all in play.

I would advise reading a book on a surfboard. Well, that's what makes him clipboard Jesus. All right, let's get into it. It's the game that all the kids love. it's go get my lunch that last part supposed to be implied at this point it's almost like you're just ignoring all my

suggestion about the last part yeah you're right about that in fact for the rest of this podcast I will not say it's just I will just say it the way it is so this is the game in case you are new to the game so we've only really played it once formally go get my lunch

is a game of skill and valor in which each of us will throw out and it's going to be draft related only, you know. So everything that's thrown out here will be predictions or kind of some type of going out on a limb on some level about something that will happen in the draft. And then each of the remaining men in the room

will have the opportunity to say, I agree, that will happen, or disagree. And if there is a disagreement, you could put a sandwich on the line. The man who throws out the initial proposition can choose how many sandwiches to put on the line. so you could maybe just take one person's sandwich bet or if everyone's disagreeing with you you could say forget you guys

I'll take all your bets so you could win up to three sandwiches on a single proposition you could also lose three sandwiches so that is the game but for the record if you don't take all the sandwiches that people are coming at you we are questioning your manhood

it's a game it's weak skill Valor and strategy not in my eyes it's a game only the wise survive So you need to pick wisely. One relevant point here.

It doesn't have to be just sandwiches. It's go get my lunch. Mark, not a sandwich fan. If he wins, we have to get whatever he wants for lunch. That's true. But considering Mark doesn't like food, the options are going to be limited. High-octane kish. French fries.

Go get me a $2 box of white rice. We have to go out and get truffle fries. High-octane olives. All right. So why don't we, I'll get it going, all right? How about that? All right. First one, gentlemen, the Titans, Rams, and Cardinals will all take quarterbacks by the end of round three.

That's interesting and wildly specific. I like that. All of them by the end of round three. I'll take you up on that. All right. Because it's all of them. I think, Dan, you picked well here, and I agree with you. All right.

You will not take me up on it. I like that. This is the most thought-provoking sandwich bet or lunch bet, I think, in the history of this game. A long-storied history. I really like it. Maybe you should have put a lot more thought into Arthur Jones. Yeah. Yes, the first ever question.

The first ever go get my lunch. question about Arthur Jones Wes made out with a couple sandwiches I'm gonna take the bet you will take it yeah see Greg is easy to learn into things because he can't help himself it's so almost the man with an addiction

in this game this is why it's perfect all right so I got I got Wes and Greg sandwiches I just need some action Chris was saying desperately I just need to feel Greg sandwich bet chunky Wes

Okay We wrote about this last week We've talked about it The Bucks are going to draft a quarterback Which leaves Mike Glennon freely available By Sunday night Mike Glennon

Is on a team other than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Wow I'll take you on that That is bold I'll take that in a second You kidding me? I love it Sunday I will take it as well Wow

Oh, are you going to take all three of us? Well, I thought we, I had to. No, you didn't. No, you know. Apparently you bully you. I have manhood, so I will take all three. See, you guys don't play the game with smarts. Well, speaking of that, Marcus introduced a new level of strategy to this game.

This was supposed to be his question. He knew that I was interested in the question. So he flipped it to me knowing that he would take the opposite side. Wow. You're a schemer. I would like to exit this content. Test not owing like 22 sandwiches this time. Here's the thing, though.

How you really win is if you go for some high stakes, high reward. Wes took all our bets last time on Arthur Jones, until he ended up being the big winner. That's how you win. This is how you get a big score, but it's a little crazy. Let's stay factual, though. I did not take Wes's Arthur Jones. Let's not be too factual.

Even if the bucks draft a quarterback in the fourth round, Mike Glenn is out of there. I agree, but you said by Sunday night. yes that's the but i think he's gone i don't think it'll be usually when these trades happen they happen during the drafts true if if it's got to happen i think it'll happen this weekend so that's why we're betting yeah go this sunday the sunday following the drows we should stop using the word betting it's a bad word around here that's why it's called go get my lunch it's just an errand um gold center do you have any idea who richard hatches

No idea. Anybody else in the room? He is the original winner of survival. And Mark's Spirit animal. Survivor. Survivor. You're so close. Survivor.

Listen, that is when I sort of checked out of reality television, but I do know that. What do mean when you checked out? That's like when it started. No, the real world was the start. Oh, okay. A decade earlier. By the way, everyone keep track of your own sandwich. I'm writing it all down.

Wagers. Wait, so wait, you took all of our? Yes. Let's have one secretary. All right. Yeah. Mark Sessler. The Detroit Lions will pick at number 10 as planned.

I feel like the air just came out of the room. That's your fastball? That's not bold. That's like coming back from shoulder surgery and throwing an 84-mile-per-hour fastball on your first rehab start. I agree with you. You do.

Yeah. So no one thinks they'll trade. No. I mean, there's a chance, but I would, If a sandwich on the line, I'm going to keep him out of number. Maybe you shouldn't have traded Mike Lennon. That's okay. It's a game.

No, he's gun-shy because he just spent a lot of money on Thursday. I think that's what this is about. I've got other questions in my arsenal. Do you want to throw out another one right now, or do you want to hold and think about it some more? It's okay to throw out one. I mean, we're just stepping into the waiting pool. Let me double down. No, I don't like how that went.

All right. Here we go. Let's try this again. Teddy Bridgewater will fall out of the first round. I'll take you up on that one. You think he will be picked in the first round? I think he will be picked in the first round. Probably by your Browns at number 26.

I think he will fall out of the first round. Gino Smith-like. I won't take that bet either, that sandwich idea. I was thinking of that as one of my options, so now I've got to come up with something else. But yeah, no, I don't think so. Mike Mayock thinks he's going to fall out of the first round, and I'm pretty sure disagreeing with Mike Mayock

is grounds for firing at the NFL. I'm sticking with you. You're a little bit higher on Bridgewater than some. I don't get the whole fall thing. I just don't understand how everybody loved his game film, and then because of a bad pro day, everybody hates him. So Chris has him going in the first round. Yes.

All right. What if we came up with an alternate word for bet? I think a blarge. I don't like that word. Blarge? Doesn't do anything for you? All right, let's think about that. It sounds like a cartoon exasperation.

All right. Greg Rosenthal, your turn. All right. This one is changed. We were having a conversation downstairs. Daniel Jeremiah was involved, and it totally changed what I was even thinking with this one. So I'm going to go.

Sammy Watkins will be drafted number three by the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'll take the Jaguars for Watkins, and you can all have the other 31 teams. I'll take it. I'll take that too. Go get me some sandwiches next week because I like that one. Wait, you gave us the field. I gave you the field.

This is what I'm going against type. I'm not even convinced Jacksonville picks at number three. Justin Blackman is, you know, they're not even counting on them. That doesn't even matter. They don't have any wide receivers. They also don't have any quarterback. They don't have any offense. So take the best offensive prospects that can get some points on the board.

They can get a great wide receiver in the second round. Yeah, I'm in on that, too. I will take all three of yours, and this is going to be the key part of me winning an avalanche of sandwiches. You are far too excited about the gambling aspect of the game. Sandwich valanche. You're almost suspiciously excited about this game, guys. I don't even know what that means. Do you have insider information on this?

No, you guys were there. We were all talking. I'm saying beyond the DJ company. It just makes a lot of sense. Have you become close, fast friends with David Caldwell over the last few months? All setting up to this moment. Yeah, that would be quite nefarious. Lockheavalian even.

All right. I'll throw this one out here. I don't know if I'll get any nibbles on it, but I'll throw one out. I got Jadavian Clowny as the first pick in the draft. Does anybody want to take a sandwich bet that that's not true? That's a tough one, because you're... You're basically, this is all a 50-50 thought. And is there a 50% chance that he's not the pick?

Because they could trade out. We just talked about it. They could take Khalil Mack. Well, they could trade out, and then Clownie could still go number one. It's not the Texans. Oh. That Clownie is the number one pick by whomever. I'm not going to take it.

I'm not going to take it. No nibbles. Okay, that's fine. All right, then I'll throw this one out on. Stinky bait. I got a feeling that I got a feeling that I will. We'll get something on this. The Dallas Cowboys will select Johnny Mansell with their first pick in the 2014 NFL draft.

I'll take that one. I'll take that action. I'll take that action. I know Dan's not going to take all three because he's not a true believer. I will take all three back because he's going to the Cowboys. He's the quarterback. Free sandwiches. And he's the quarterback of the Cowboys of the Future.

We are already celebrating Chris Mark and I. This is great. Now, you want to talk about onions. You want to talk about believing in yourself and not caring what anybody else sit. You want to talk about just being filled with guts. That's it. You want to talk about onions. I'd like some onions on the great sandwich you're going to get me.

Oh, this is going to be so sweet. Speaking of sweet I thought the top of the world was when I accurately predicted a Super Bowl blowout This will make that look like Poppycock All right I'm going to give you two rookie quarterbacks

And I'm going to tell you where they both land All right This is going to cost me some money I have a feeling Blake Bordels is going to be joined with Norv Turner in Minnesota Oh that's a good fit And Derek Carr is going to go to the Cleveland Browns

Grim And if both of those things don't happen, we get lunch? All right, I'm taking that one. Well, now I feel better about the Manzell. Yeah, that actually, that might be even lower percentage. That's bold. I like it. That might be the most bold thing ever thrown out.

Two exact landing spots. Yeah. Okay. So Mark says Carr. That is gutsy too. I'm going to, I am the wife and let her know that we need to take some money out of the savings account. Now we're playing the game. Yeah.

Greg and Wes, you are on the clock now because Mark and I just let it all out there. I just onions everywhere. Sammy Watkins to the Jags was my move. I mean, I have nothing to bring it higher than that. Wes. Well, come up with something on the fly. Three wide receivers will come off the board in the first 15 picks. Hmm.

So that, I believe that will happen. I agree with you. Well, I think I'll take a sandwich on that. I figured I can lure Greg on this one. Who's the third receiver? Not that you have to name them, but just for your... Okay. Or any of the wide receivers to the stores.

Oh, so by the... Oh, you said pick 15, huh? Interesting. By the Steelers pick. I don't know. Hold on here. You've got the Jets in there. Yeah, but the Jets are 18.

Jets are 18. I'll take you on that. All right. Let's do it. Just lured in another one. Yep. All right. So Wesseling has three receivers in the first 15.

Oh, this is exciting. Mark decided not to take it. I'm not touching that. I see trade, I'll tell you why, I'm not looking at the teams that are there, I'm looking at the teams, I'm going to trade up. I like Mayock said six wide receivers in the first round, and it could happen, though, that, you know, there's that early run in the very beginning with Watkins and Evans, but then I see the rest of it maybe starting with maybe the Jets and Steelers. Jets are at 18. I feel like the fourth wide receiver off the board will go to the Jets. O'Dell Beckham is the hottest name in the draft right now. I don't know.

I don't feel good about this one already. I think Wes has nailed this. I just lured in a couple. It's been fun to watch the evolution of Mark playing this game. He started out thinking about that receipt from yesterday, and he just barely had this milk-toast little one. And then he felt like, oh, this is no good. The old Mark's got to come back.

I might have the gambling issue. The most outrageous one humanly possible. And now you're like, oh, my God, what have I done? I'm not going to be involved in any bets. anymore we have time but we have time for one more and then we'll get into the manzel one more manzel uh blarp okay i need to have a second one it's similar to chris's and uh i said this one before so i'm going to stick with it only two quarterbacks are drafted in the first round exactly two two kubes in the first round there will be no trading up for derrick car there

There'll be no surprise, Zach Mettenberger, A.J. McCarron, or Bridgewater, two quarterbacks. Not three. And not one. Not one, not three. Two quarterbacks. I'm going to take you up on that because I think your New England Patriots are going to cause you a problem and take a quarterback. If you really had guts, I think we should have. I'm saying more.

If we had another, if we had, we should have another subset of this game in which you put on the line, your old Sessler, that Tom Brady ends up being on the Browns. And we don't get you lunch, we get you a sandwich shop. If that's true, we have to buy you a contraption shop, even. A subway franchise or something like that. I would not want to have to deal with that. So no, thank you. Okay. You can buy me a sandwich shop.

But back to your question, I think you nailed it, Greg. I think two is the number. I think Manzell will go, and I think, you know, probably Bordels or someone like that will go a little later. And I can't get on board. Okay, Mark's taking it. Yeah, and it's basically Bordels in Manzell, but I won't even bother to specify it. Two quarterbacks in the first round. This one's the hardest one yet.

Good. If you believe in Bridgewater the way you say you do, you got to do this. But I wouldn't be shocked if Bortles fell all the way out. Hmm. And Carr? Well, Carr, I don't expect to go into first round anyway. All right, we're going to need your decision. I'll take you up on this just because that's the point of the game.

That's not a smart way to play the game. That's how you lose sandwiches. Talking to the all-time sandwich leader. I like it. That's true. We should keep all-time. I'm the Mariana Rivera of this game. That's like a baseball player after the opening day talking about.

He's the home run leader. Enter Sandman. If there's a listener out there that can keep track of our all-time standings in Go Get My Lunch, that would be great. You can help us and email it to me, contact us on Twitter. That'd be a big help. Zach, will you want to jump in now? Golden T is not involved in the draft in any way. That's out the window now.

Here's a two-parter, and this is why I'm only taking one. You ready? Despite not being listed on the official. NFL.com three team needs of the New York Giants. The New York Giants take a tight end in the first round and trade down to do so.

Wow. That's very specific. Very specific. That's wildly. That's why I'm only taking one. You're saying... The trading down thing is where you really went wrong there. You think so? I think so. Eric Ebron's going to the giant? The tight end thing was bold. Beyond that was Cessley. I see them taking Ebron, but I

don't see them taking Ebron at 12. I'll take that. I'll take that action. I will take that also. They'll trade down for it. Should I take that bit out? I don't know. No, you can't now.

Okay, all right. So it's there. But I get to choose who I want to take that. I'll stay out of it. You can choose between these three gentlemen. Okay, yeah. We can't take too much. You don't make nearly as much money.

I'll go with Greg. He gave me a book today. That's nice. Wow. I'm basically buying Greg lunch. You got a bartering system here. That seems a little nefarious. You had some type of outside trade barrens.

It's a big boy league, Dan. If this was the NCAA, you would both be banned. Yeah, that's sanction-worthy, potentially. I brought in a book that I thought would be interest for Zach out of the kindness of my heart. And now you got a favor. Had nothing to do with the game, and you're taking that against me? All right, we'll have the board. We'll look into this.

All right, we're running out of time. So let's just hit finally Johnny Mansell, gentlemen, and Gold Standard. You could also get out on this one. Everyone's going to pick a team where Mansell will land. and if someone hits on it, that's sandwiches from everybody. So that is four sandwiches to the victor. So if you got the Cowboys right, you would get it right twice? I would get, by the way, I would make seven sandwiches if Johnny Mansell goes to the Cowboys.

You're like the wimpy of sandwiches. Why do you get double credit for it? You really, it's just the same thing. Oh, so now all of a sudden, my death bet is something that's working in my favor. You can't have it both ways. You can double down. Of course, I'm doubling down on Johnny Manzell. So there's an order here.

If Greg picks Team A, no one else can pick that team? I guess. I'm picking the team I'm picking regardless. I guess you could split it. Well, let's see what happens. In the spirit of doubling down, you get the KFC double down in the event that you win. You just get seven of those. And then I die three days later of heart failure.

But okay. All right. So, Wes, you are the defending champion of the game. So you get Johnny Football is going to the Rams. Okay. All right. That would be exciting. I wouldn't expect that to be the number one pick.

I like that. I probably actually was about to go there myself, but I'm going to switch up and say so that I can get potentially two quarterback bets wrong here, Johnny Football to Cleveland. Oh, yeah. How does that work? Don't you have to get a car going to the brand?

These don't have to all tie together. So you're losing a sandwich one way or another. The strategy is faulty there, but it's okay. You're hedging your bets The strategy makes sense The integrity has completely This game is not about integrity If I'm going to take the lead of you three

This podcast is not integrity I'm going to go Raiders They're next on the board basically Number 5 Raiders And Gold Center I was going Raiders Where do I go now? This is absurd

You could go Raiders I'm going Raiders too I guess you guys can split the bounty Sure yes Okay So let's go And so I took the Cowboys, West took the Rams, Mark took the Browns,

and Gold Standard and the boss both went with the Raiders. Nobody goes, Jaguars, Texans, or Vikings. I don't think he gets to Vikings at number eight unless they're going to move up. My initial thing on Tammy Watkins was going to be Mandel to the Jags, but I don't know. I changed my mind at the very last second. You know what, like in Hollywood, when a screenplay gets, wicked hot on Friday night and it

circulates around. That's Mansell in the 48 hours leading up to this draft. Everyone says not going to fall the top ten. He ain't going past the top five. I think you can take this podcast back to January where you and I told everyone in America that he will go in the first three picks of the draft. Right. I think

you can take it and put it in the library of Congress leave it for people 50 years from now to listen to what a great product. Everyone in America listens to this podcast. That's very exciting to know and a little overwhelming. All over the world, Really? All right. So that's it. All the, all the bets, wagers, blarps, they're all in. And Greg has them written down. Is it organized, Greg? Can we trust you on this? I'm beginning to think choosing me as the secretary is troubling. We will have the audio.

We'll take a picture of that and put it on the site because... I'll get it done into email form at some point. This looks wretched, Greg. This does not look organized at all. There's some over here as well That's funny All right So yeah we will Obviously this will all be settled by next weekend The podcast

Mark and I head to New York This weekend So Greg and Wes We'll hold it down From the studio Mark and I will be On the line We'll be calling in

It'll be very exciting And we'll talk All about the draft And anything else Don't we want You know what we'll do We'll put all these Sandwich

Propositions Up on the around the league site So everyone can see it and root on from home. It's a game for all of America. The children love it. All right. So thank you for listening.

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