NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - NFL Draft Predictions & Lamar Jackson Talk
Episode Date: April 24, 2018A room filled with heroes- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling & Marc Sessler- start with a birthday shoutout to The Ol' Zeuser with a lovely song. They discuss the latest news, including... Peter King’s thoughts on the No. 1 overall pick (6:00), more bad news for Dez Bryant (9:30) and Gronk returns to Gillette Stadium- but not for team workouts (12:00). The heroes are joined by Spice Rack to discuss Lamar Jackson’s draft stock (24:00) and they make some “Go Get My Lunch” draft predictions (39:00).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Transcript
Discussion (0)
This is an I-Heart podcast.
Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here.
And I'm Bucky Brooks.
On Move the 6th, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies
to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct
winning rosters.
We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find
anywhere else.
It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sunday.
Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Marcus Grant.
And I'm Michael Florio, and together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
Ready to dominate your fantasy league this season?
Then you need the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, your ultimate source for player news, draft tips, and winning strategies.
Whether you're a rookie manager or a fantasy vet.
We've got the insight to help you crush your opponents.
Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL.
Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more.
The Around the NFL podcast is running out of money tags.
Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast.
My name is Dan Hansis, and I am in a room that just filled with heroes.
Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal.
What's up, boys?
Hey, Dan.
Not just, hey, Dan.
How about happy birthday, Dan Hansis?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you.
Okay.
Oh, come.
Why does it rotate?
My wife calls me Wolfman.
Okay, I reloaded.
There will be blood.
Damn you all the hell.
Is this who I am?
How does rain work?
Somebody's salty.
Ooh, keep an eye on the browns.
They're special.
Hang on a second.
I have another phone call.
This one's for Dan.
This one's for Dan.
This one's for Dan.
Oh, yeah.
Also, that one's for Dan.
Happy birthday.
Hey, Dan, this is Brett Veach.
Happy birthday, buddy.
Very well done
There we go
Wow
Lindsay
Big ups to Lindsay
Let's he put that together
In a very limited amount of time today
That's a professional
And did you guys
Record Vox there as well
Or is that just taking it?
Little bit at her prompting
We did a little bit of
It was big of Mr. Beach to call it last week
It was
It was
You haven't been hit with a cease and desist
From Brad Beach yet
It's coming
He's sent it by snail mail
so it'll be here soon.
Don't think I didn't have to Google how to send a voice memo.
Well, thank you very much, Lindsay.
And, oh, getting tweets today.
Oh, are you taking today off?
No.
No, let's on how this one.
There are no days off here.
We are in draft week.
No days off.
Me and Belichick, maybe we're more alike than I'd like to admit.
No days off.
Because it's grind time.
It is.
The draft is less than four days away now.
Shut up, Bill.
And we have so, we have, you know, just get here, please get here.
You know, I've already said multiple times in the past two weeks, they should move the draft up.
Today, when I was sitting in our little cubicles, those doomed cubicles, Greg, that really, especially on your birthday for whatever reason and you're starting to get older, you start to wonder what you're really doing.
And I'm sitting in this cubicle, almost trapped.
You might as well put bars around it as the way I felt.
Time actually stopped.
And I was looking around to see if anybody else noticed for about 90 seconds straight, time stopped.
And that's what it really feels like with the draft.
It's got to get here.
It's on Thursday, but come on, clock.
The best time for the draft is always a week before the current date.
Put it in the rear view mirror always.
Yeah, absolutely.
And we are so excited to bring back one of our favorite games at the end of today's show.
Go get my lunch.
You total degenerate, the draft edition.
So big, big, big wage, Wes, you put pressure on yourself for the free agency.
Didn't work out?
Even more pressure here, you would say, correct?
I don't know if I want to approach this as a competitive person or not.
I don't know if I've given up on that or not.
Yeah, I think you could look at it as a total lack of pressure since there's no repercussions to winning or losing or do sandwiches ever get exchanged.
Well, that's not necessarily true, though.
just a matter of the people that are losing
have got to cough up some sandwiches. Well, that's, you're pointing
at me because when I look at the
way that they've, you know, put the tally
together on the go get my lunch.org,
Nick Fortier, nice job there.
I owe every single
person sandwiches and not a single person
owes me anything.
It's been, well, we'll go through before we get
into this year's props
for the draft. We'll look quickly back
at last year's draft and I just have
to say, I was flabbergasted
by a couple of your props last year, Mark. There's
a reason why you tend to owe more than your owed.
Right.
And this last year's draft was a perfect distillation of that.
We'll get to that in a little bit.
Yeah, when we're dedicating only three props each time, don't use one or two in each show
on the end of the earth or the end of, you know, the event that we're covering.
The thing is, here's the way I look at it.
No one really remembers almost anything anyone wagered at all.
If I got an apocalyptic scenario correct, it's getting picked up by CNN.
It's getting picked up all around the place by multiple media outlets.
And that's all that anyone remembers.
Yeah, but no one would remember because the world would be ending.
No, portions of the world will.
I feel like it would be of the top headline, though, that thing happened.
It would be a sidebar.
NFL NFL Scribe predicted this.
Bang, it's going to be a whole documentary.
Like a legend in my mind.
Thank you.
Right.
Just before you and everyone you love ceased to exist,
you'll have the knowledge that so many listeners of our show,
their last thought will be like, well, I guess Mark was right. He called it.
Well, Greg, Greg can cling to the fact that he picks like a second, you know,
a second tier Packers running back, getting the fourth amount of guaranteed money in free agency.
Well, that's a legacy.
Sit on that.
Maybe you'll get like a Gilbrand, um, shadow account runner tweet.
I like that.
I mean, that's big.
Yeah.
That is big.
Before the fireball hits the earth, props to Mark Sessler who knew all along.
that this was happening.
I'd be, that would wrap it at that point, curtains, baby.
We also have a special guest we're going to get on the show
to talk about another draft prospect and then some news.
In fact, let's get to the news, Ms. Fulton,
because the top of the news regards Mark's favorite team
who's picking first in the draft.
You know, those videos, Odell's got little left to center, let's say.
I'm not a fan of those.
But he's the best wide receiver in the league.
All right. We start with the Cleveland Browns and Monday morning quarterback founder, sled dog icon of the NFL sports writing business.
Peter King wrote in his latest Monday morning quarterback column that a source he, quote, trusts who is very, quote, well connected and quote, very often right, said that the Browns won't take why.
Wyoming quarterback Josh Allen at number one.
And that is in contrast with the steady drumbeat, Mark Sessler, that the Browns would or were in love with Josh Allen and his upside.
We don't have to dig back in because we just did it last week on the show about all the reasons why you might not want to take Josh Allen at number one.
But what I take out of this report and even King acknowledges, you're kind of a slave to your sources this time of year.
It doesn't mean you're right.
But it seems that it's starting now to swing back to Sam Darry.
now as we get to the final days before the draft.
And I frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a leak in the next 24 to 48 hours that
Donald is the man.
Do you agree?
Yeah, I do agree.
And I can't help but remember when the Rams were all but guaranteed to take Jared
golf.
And it sure felt like the league got in the ear of the Rams and said, please bring this to
the 11th hour.
Don't sell this down the river with four or five days to go.
I don't think that John Dorsey's out there telling anyone, anyone that knows Peter
King or anyone else at this point what he's going to do.
But I think the building, I think my guess would be inside the building that there's been
healthy debate over two quarterbacks.
And I don't think that it is Josh Allen.
I think it was probably coming down to Darnold and Baker Mayfield.
And right now, Darnold's the guy that the combine, when the combine began, everyone
said it is Darnold hands down.
Then everything happened.
And we're back there, like you said.
I just think that barring a surprise, they're going to go with what seems to them,
like the safer pick in Darnold.
I don't think it's the guy that I want,
but it's the guy they want.
Well, Chris Ballard was in Kansas City.
What's your favorite type of frog?
With John Dorsey.
And he said on Good Morning Football last week
that Dorsey wouldn't tell him who he was taking.
He wouldn't tell anyone in the room.
That you could get a guess or a feel,
but he would listen to everyone.
And I was assuming he was basically talking about the Patrick Mahomes
that he,
Even a guy who's working with him didn't know what he was going to do.
So that's why it's tough to really know from the outside, but it makes sense.
Definitely makes sense.
Did you, Mark, did you say you don't want them to take Donald the number one?
Who do you want them to take?
I couldn't have been wrong on almost every quarterback they picked all along.
So this means nothing, but I just sort of want Rosen or Baker Mayfield.
I don't know why.
I just, it's something about one of those.
Cessler has a Cessler.
No, I actually feel like I don't have Cesslers about Brown's draft picks anymore,
because, again, I've been wrong a million times, but...
You and everybody else.
There's been a lot of Brown's draft picks that look good in the moment.
The massive flood of unaccountable scouts inside that organization that have failed over and over and over.
So please get it right.
Well, they have been fired repeatedly.
True, but they're making a lot of money after the fact for doing hideous things.
It's actually the same scouts that get fired and rehired.
No one's noticed.
It's just the same people.
That explains so much.
In other news, oh, another topic.
We don't need to spend a ton of time on, but we'll check in on.
Willie Sneed officially to become a member of the Ravens rap sheet reported the Saints will not match Baltimore's offer that was made to Sneed.
He signed that on Friday, two years up to $10.4 million, $7 million base.
The Saints had five days to match that and they decided not to.
So Sneed joins the Ravens better fit, Wes.
I love the fit.
And it's interesting to me that outside of the flyer on RG3, essentially the only moves the Ravens'
have done so far this off season
have been to the wide receiver core
and they've overhauled the entire
wide receiver core. John Brown was
a very interesting flyer on a speedy guy.
Michael Crabtree, Willie Sneed.
To me, this is a major, major upgrade
over Jeremy Macklin, Mike Wallace,
and Prasad Paraman or Chris Moore,
whoever they had on the field last year.
Bad news for Des too when we touched on that,
but the Ravens take the Ravens off the list.
We heard the report that the Giants aren't interested.
He's not going to the Eagles.
The Redskins apparently not interested.
This could take a while for Des.
Feels like the Harbaugh-slash-flacco era somewhat depends on continuing on making these receivers work, Sneed, Crabtree Brown, and that passing game.
I think they didn't want to go into the draft having to feel the pressure to draft a wide receiver in the first.
There aren't a lot.
I could see one or two wide receiver's tops going in the first round potentially.
And I think they maybe want to use that pick if someone felt to them like Lamont.
Mark Jackson on a quarterback.
And I just want to say, I think they've improved their wide receiver group,
but John Brown, Michael Crabtree, Sneed, none of these guys can't miss to be productive players next year.
It still feels very much a crapshoot whether the Ravens are going to be moving the ball.
But the one thing we do know is that Justin Tucker is going to kick the shit out of the ball
and it's going to go right between those uprights.
I would say that consistently.
I would say one thing about that wide receiver core, though, they complement each other really well.
It's not like they went out and tried to find three.
Number ones.
Yeah, you're right.
They found Sneed in the slot, crab trees, your red zone guy,
and Job Browns, your deep threat.
Meanwhile, on the throne of slees,
Rob Grunkowski was at Gillette Stadium.
Good news, Patriots fans.
Here's the bad news.
It was on behalf of the Monster Energy Supercross team.
Gromk was at a dirt bike gala.
I didn't know that was the thing that existed,
but you learn a lot.
At least still.
When you follow Gronk in the offseason,
there was also a press conference at this dirt bike gala.
I keep on stopping myself from saying dirtbag gala
But I guess in my youth
The kids that not a lot of kids had dirt bikes
But it was very popular in the 80s and movies and stuff
Like oh he's got a dirt bike
Usually you were a dirt bag
A rougher set of a child would be roaming around
On the dirt bike probably get into fisticuffs
Anyway
Gronk was asked about his status for the 2018 season
During this Monster Energy Super Cross press conference
Here's what he had to say.
I've been riding dirt bikes.
I've been trained really hard.
I can vroom, brum, really good.
I can ride that bike like no other.
And my speed is up today.
Are you still contemplating retirement from football?
Depends how my race is still to go today.
And of note, the top headline on Patriots.com on Sunday read,
Granc Presser, a quote, bad look.
And that was taken from a commentary.
from WEEI, a local sports talk station in Boston.
Guys, is Gronk trying to get himself traded right now?
Greg, is it a big deal?
The crafts must be excited
because he was trying to get people into the stadium
for the motocross event that day at Gillette
that they're making money off of.
So it's all good.
One way to shade that news story.
It's all part of the game.
All right, kissing cousins, your thoughts?
100% of the reactions I saw after this
basically took it as grunt giving Belichick the middle finger.
Yes, that's fair.
Well, the second answer where they were like,
are you going to report to workouts?
And he basically was just sort of a hard no.
It's like there would have maybe been a different way
to kind of tone shift that answer to say,
hey, he's not really good at tone shifting.
No, he's not.
Not really a gifted improv actor.
I don't know.
You listen to gronk in any transcript.
I'm not making fun of the guy.
He's very successful and extremely wealthy.
Seems to have a nice family support system.
and, you know, it's done well in his life.
Not usually any sentence, really.
They don't come out too well.
You know, he's not going to be able to give you an artfully crafted non-answer answer.
Do you plan on attending the optional workouts that are upcoming?
No.
Why?
Got dirt biking skills to work.
Just a bit dismissive.
I think he, I think at Jolette Stadium, it is a troll job of the Patriots.
And I'm wondering if he really is really trying to get traded and then getting the new contract with wherever he gets traded.
And then it makes me wonder how feasible that remains,
especially with the draft a couple days away.
He's just, he's trying to annoy them.
It certainly seems like there was a report, though,
that they're fully expecting that he's not retiring,
that they don't even think that's an option at this point,
which seems germane.
But to your point, you know,
on a scale of like shocking things Bill Belichick has done as a general manager,
how high up would trading Rob Grinkowski on draft they be?
At this point, like he's done more shocking things than that.
I don't think that would be up there.
It would be up there, but it wouldn't be that crazy.
I just think it's not going to happen primarily because I don't think they're going to,
they wouldn't be able to get a great, great offer for him.
And that's the only reason why they would be.
Now they think about it, what would be a bigger stunner from Belichick in all-time
trading the greatest tight end in the history of football in the middle of his prime?
Back to the Vikings.
Would that be bigger than Grog?
I think it was.
I remember being, that was the most shocking trade I remember.
It was after the season had started.
Richard Seymour, I don't know.
It was shocking.
Molloy was shocking.
Molloy was shocking.
That one came out of nowhere and it was shocking in the moment.
None of these would be bigger than Gronk, though.
Really?
A bigger story, but bigger surprise.
Just because at this point, you're right.
It plays to everything we know about Belichick that he would trade him for the right value.
I mean, how does Belichick like an offseason where all these players,
all the reports, no one likes Belichick, they're tired of Belichick, they're over his.
M.O. They're tired of dealing
with this guy. And, like, you've got
gronk mouthing off. You've got Brady playing
this sort of, you know,
tete-to-tet business where who knows if he's showing up
to some workout? There's a little
Bud Kilmer. When does he snap?
A non-void vibe here. Maybe there's
some inmates are about to
overthrow the asylum.
In life, when do you act like
the cock of the walk? When do you start
swinging it around because you don't care?
You got nothing to lose. When you're at
Gronk's level in life. Gronk has options now.
Yeah.
He has post-career options, and I don't think it's about forcing a trade or hoping for a trade.
Yeah.
I think it's, hey, I can go to wrestling or I can go to the movies.
I don't need football anymore.
I mean, he has, he's got great business acumen investing in the horse named after him just days before the horse pulls out of the Kentucky Derby.
Yeah.
Finally in the news, the NFL announced that a parrot will deliver the Bucks's third-day draft picks from a pirate.
ship, I should say the pirate ship that's located at Raymond James Stadium. Mark,
if you can give me a brief commentary, remember when your boy Costas would get up on his big,
he'd climb up on top of his big boy soapbox and give his dissertations at half time of Sunday
night football. Can you, because I feel some of the, this third round, let's have a talking
animal, you know, let's have a guy jumping off an airplane. These are still young men that are achieving
their draft dreams, and then we're turning us over to Farse television.
I'll set you up there, and hopefully you'll run with that.
I may have more to say on this during our go-get-my-lunch segment, but what I would say
is that what annoys me...
Mark looks like at his highlighted, typed-out pages of notes.
What annoys me highly is that for us who cover the game, that by the time you get into
mid-sadurday, you are ready to hang yourself from the ceiling of the newsroom because the draft
couldn't be any less headline-worthy or name-worthy or anything.
And you need to get that podcast done and get home to other human beings you call your
family.
And what they've done with this third day, and I'm sure anyone inside the building
listening to this will not be pleased with my takeaway, no one's listening, is that
they have said, let's take day three and extend it by multiple hours because of non-stop chicanery.
Because we need to have last year a baboon announced an Indian apple.
cult's draft pick, as if that helps anyone, or if it's exceedingly entertaining to watch.
It's not delaying the draft.
Well, Greg, I understand that you're going to stick up for it because it's NFL network,
but I would say that in terms of actual programming, it is an insulting watch for anyone
that comes there to actually watch football content.
And now it's, and listen, you've got R2D2 announcing a pick.
You have Chewbac announcing a pick.
I don't need that.
I don't need any of this.
This is eating into your script, but I like it.
It feels like the appropriate spot.
I don't need any of this, and nor do you.
you. I'm with you. I'm with you. None of us need any of it. But I'm, I do find it funny that people
are like, oh, the sanctity of the draft. It's not the sanctity. It is the, it is the, do not tack 90 minutes
onto a day that is already excessively boring. There's no extra time. The picks are, I think it is. The picks are being
made. It is longer. It is longer because the pick is made. They stop down. They've got to go to
camera eight out in some random city. They continue to make the picks of, they continue to make it.
In that draft, they don't even mention most of the picks.
Most people don't even get their names mentioned.
They just said, oh, let's catch up.
By the time you get to the end, they would reel it along on a ticker tape on the bottom.
Greg, you mentioned sanctity and that's not something to get caught up about.
Saw your son Walker this weekend, beautiful young boy.
Imagine 10, 12 years from now, 15 years from now he's drafted.
Yeah.
Fourth round.
And you're sitting at the television.
The whole family is together.
and they have a hammerhead shark typing out Morse code of your son's name.
Rather than some like proud representative, you know, let's say, you know, West Welker making
the announcement for the Patriots, you have a hammerhead shark and they put a little
hammer on the top of his head and then have him tap out Morse code.
How about, how about, how about the thousands of third day draft picks over the last
30 years that haven't had any
announcement, that's the vast majority of them
and no one's cared at all about that. By the way, you didn't
answer the question. I would be fine with it.
It'd be kind of funny. At least he'd get a little pop.
You know, most of those guys don't,
they literally don't get announced. It's just
a ticker thing at the bottom. Which, by
the way, got us home at 5 p.m.
Here's what I learned
a long time ago about TV networks.
When your shows are no longer
targeting me as the audience, I feel
no guilt about leaving your show.
Like, why would I have to watch a
when the target audience is 12-year-olds.
And one last, and one last point.
Who's the most important single individual
in NFL network's draft coverage?
Mystery irrelevant.
Charlie Yook.
Mike Mayock.
Oh, and Mayock cannot.
Yook was some pot of good bits.
We'll get into that.
We'll get into that.
Mike Mayock.
That guy nearly walked off the set and discussed,
and it wasn't manufactured
with the talking baboon last year.
Now they're going to have parrots
and who knows what else
just to get a reaction out of Mayak.
Let's not complete.
It's disenfranchised Mayotte.
It is a world war, you know, it is a powder keg.
That reaction, though, is what guaranteed that it was coming back.
Our reaction is what guaranteed it's coming back.
Someone actually cared about the fifth round of the draft for a second.
You're saying you checked your network boxes here.
I'm definitely about a fan.
Wes, it is a powder keg.
Agree with me.
It is a powder keg sitting there.
The second that Mayok had that reaction, that guaranteed it was coming back
because they just wanted to annoy him again.
And now a word from our sponsor.
Spending too much time at the office on the couch or
sitting in your car, you begin to confuse what you do with who you are.
That's why you need Spartan.
Spartan is an obstacle course racing company with races for every athletic ability and skill
level, but it's not just a race.
It's a way of life with 60 races all around the country, starting with 3 plus
mile, 20 plus obstacle sprint, sprint capitalized all the way to 14 plus mile 30 plus
obstacle beast, beast capitalized.
Any racer can find what's right for them as long as you leave your excuses behind.
West, pay attention.
Let it all propel you through hills, climbs, and carries.
We'll be easy.
Uh-uh.
Will it be worth it?
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
Sign up for the best weekend meeting of your life
and race alongside fellow Spartans like Randy Moss.
Probably the NFL player.
Excuses don't live here.
Find your Spartan race today.
Visit spartan.com slash around for an exclusive offer to find a race near you
and view training and nutrition tips.
and race baby all right it is time for the fifth and final installment of our draft quarterback
series and who we've gone through so far we started sam darnnell sam darnnell yep then we moved on
and we hit josh rosen then baker mayfield then josh allen the big four okay
but that's not it.
We got one more to hit for a very particular reason
because the man that I reached out to demanded it.
And now he's joining us live on the Around the NFL podcast.
I reached out to this guy and said,
hey, which one of these big four do you want to talk about?
And you know what this man said?
He said, screw you.
I only want to talk about one guy and his name is Lamar Jackson Spice Rack.
Welcome back to the Around the NFL podcast.
Glad to be back, sir.
spice rack if you are acoustics by the way i just found a safe space is this how are the acoustic
you're safe with us spice rack it's always safe in here it's a safe space and you do sound good
and everyone should know that spice rack in addition to being chris westling's desert consigliary
on all matters draft related also works on the at the pool top of one of the most exclusive
Vegas hotels and resorts which i will not share for privacy reasons he is the spice rack he doesn't
mobs of fans
jumping into the pool
trying to get to him
but what I want to tell you
is that he excused himself
from the pool
don't worry
he's not a lifeguard
he is talking to us now
Spice Rack
first of all
how are you buddy
it's been a while
buddy is right
I've missed you guys dearly
and I'm doing okay
about the same
about the same
but I've been
mostly concerned
with you guys
oh why is that
and what sense
Spiceroy
thank you we think
I sent some
attention, and I've heard some rumors.
Talk to us.
From who?
What are the sparrows telling you?
You have people in Vegas talking to you.
We'll talk about it off here.
I thought we were here to talk draft quarterback.
What happened to that?
I like it.
That's a tease.
That's a tease.
You brought it up, Spicerack.
Yeah, well, I'm full of BS, and, you know, sometimes you just rambling and makes
it up.
You've done a nice job lighting a fire in this studio now, and there's a lot of dissension,
a lot of sideways glances.
But Spice Rack, okay, here we go.
you only wanted to talk about the Louisville quarterback Lamar Jackson.
Tell us why your pants are on fire when you talk about this kid.
Well, I mean, I think it's relegating him to like a secondary player as far as these main quarterbacks are concerned.
That's my first issue.
Right.
You don't like the idea that he's not mentioned in the breath of the first four.
quarterbacks we talked about on this show?
He's accomplished a lot more, and he has, you know, upside for days.
I think, really, though, Hansus, the reason I wanted to kind of come on and talk about him
is sort of the angle that even if Lamar Jackson does not work out long term, and he's not
really a project in the sense that can he run past people or if he's got a second to throw,
can he complete that pass because he can and he will and he looks to throw.
But it's when you look at the most, the extremely mobile quarterbacks,
even if they don't last, Steve Young lasted, Steve McNair lasted,
you know, Randall Cunningham came back and did his thing.
Usually they'll pop early.
I mean, look at how explosive Vic was early.
RG3, Kaepernick gave the Packers, 180 rushing yards in the playoffs.
Deshaun Watson had the top NFL offense in the NFL last year for a brief moment.
Tebow won a playoff game.
He's out of the league already.
Vince Young out of the league, but didn't he win 60 plus percent of his games for the first couple of years?
Rookie of the year.
There you go.
And so if you get a smart play caller attached to Lamar Jackson, I don't see any way, barring injury, but that's the case for everybody.
You want to talk about his frame being slight a frame?
Of course, that's a little bit of an issue.
if he doesn't learn to, I mean, Robert Griffin, the third, never learned a slide.
One of the craziest developments in the history of my life side was the worst slider I've
ever seen.
How is it possible?
It's unbelievable.
He's that athletic yet unable.
Lamar Jackson won't have that issue.
Now, I'll tell you, what else Robert Griffin struggled with was just absorbing a hit?
This guy did not know how to get out of the way.
Lamar Jackson's not that.
His instincts, like Robert Griffin didn't jump off.
the screen the way Lamar Jackson did.
He may have run past people,
but he wasn't a lot of wiggle
attached to his game.
Spicerack, I have a question about
the...
I will, thank you.
I feel like Spicerack's feeling good
in a good headspace,
and we're getting good.
So far, so good.
I would say so far, Spice Rack?
I'm not feeling good.
I'm feeling terrible.
Well, just stay confident.
Well, you tried to sow some seeds of,
you know, dissent among us.
So that was a tough start.
I liked it.
I actually gave him points for that.
I like that.
Right now, he's not.
sitting at a solid B right now and maybe trending upward. West, go ahead.
The Vic thing, I heard Trent Dilfer, who knows quite a bit about quarterback, say he's light years
ahead of Vic as a prospect. I go back to 2001, and to me, Vic was not only the number one
overall pick, but there was no debate about it. He was viewed as the most exciting, exceptional
college player we'd ever seen at the time. How is it that Lamar Jackson is viewed by someone like
Dilfer is light years ahead of Vic as a prospect.
And do you see him as light years ahead of where
Vic was at the time? I see him
light years ahead as a thrower.
I just think
quarterbacks in general
are coached up a lot more offseason
and seven on sevens.
And as well as just
in games, I mean, Frank Beamer
and Virginia Tech, they couldn't have run a more
antiquated offense. He threw like eight touchdowns
one of his years, Michael Vick. It's like he didn't
throw the ball. What's that? Yeah, Michael
Vic barely threw the ball in college.
Right.
And what he did, it was erratic, and they tried to sort of, you know, run a, you know, eye formation.
And, you know, that's not the way to spring Vic free.
Lamar Jackson is a lot more polished as a passer.
I don't think there's any question about that.
And I've heard a lot of talk that now that RPO is the rage now, that Jackson, if he's in the right offense or the right play caller, he could thrive.
in that type of setup, although there have been real questions about his accuracy as well.
So he's not a perfect prospect.
I think it's overrated.
I think it's overrated big time.
I think he needs to rein it back in as far as trying some of these Aaron Rogers passes.
He's not there yet.
But he's so much, again, erratic is the word I use, because if we're going to do a comparison with Vic,
I mean, Vic was all over the place.
Lamar Jackson, I mean, he's a nice passer.
I mean, you saw him on his best days.
He looked just unstoppable, but he's by no means like a huge project as a passer.
I just don't see it.
Spicerack.
Is it an indictment of the National Football League scouting base and front offices,
one through 32, that he's not seen as one of these top four.
There's the four quarterbacks.
Then somewhere in the deep distance is Lamar Jackson,
who some team is going to try to pick and then mold an offense around.
I mean, how can you be the most electrifying athlete in the draft
and being sort of comprehensively ignored up to this point
compared to the other four quarterbacks,
each of them who have known flaws?
And in addition to that,
do you believe that Bill Polion still has all of his faculties?
No on Bill Polion.
Last question first, Jim.
But this top four, top five stuff, this is a softball for me.
I mean, Josh Allen, what has he done other than measure?
I mean, he's in a lower level conference.
He didn't raise the level of the competition.
And let's not forget how athletic he is with that big strong arm.
Let's say a comparison might be Jay Cutler.
Remember young Jay Cutler was very mobile.
When he was at Vanderbilt and had nobody on his team and was against SEC defenses,
he was in games till the bitter end.
making players better.
Every damn week.
Josh Allen was unimpressive always.
Show me what he did ever to impress.
And so the size and the arm strength, I get it.
And I'm not looking at every little thing.
So, but I can't imagine taking Josh Allen over Lamar Jackson.
All right.
How about this?
You ready?
There we go.
Sealing for Lamar Jackson as an NFL player and a player cop and a floor.
I mean
This can get you into A-minus territory
if you nail this
Your appearance
There's not
The feeling
If you're looking for player comparison
I don't really have one
Body type
You reminds me to Jake Plummer
But
I don't know who to
You want me to a freaking lie
I mean I don't know
I mean Randall Cunningham was slight
Not preferably
He was slightly built
But he was a lot taller
you know and uh robert griffin to third again i saw as like a robot who happened to be fast
i don't know here's why i get to you he's he's uh he the shan watson does not have the
physical ability of lamar jackson right that's the thing there is no it's hard to compare
because he's a new generation player that's why like not that i'm a scout but like watching
lamar jackson it it is i'm writing about this for this week like it is surprising to me and maybe
everyone is wrong maybe it's not a big four maybe you're right spice rack and the NFL agrees with
you and he's going to go in the top 10 like i don't think that's i don't think that would be that
surprising at this point last year deshawn watson no one thought he was going in the top 25 and teams
are trading up who's saying he's going to fall beyond even 12 i think everyone would agree with you
at this point well almost every mar jackson going literally every 10 to a 12 is totally what's going
literally every mock draft on her website right now has him falling past that i don't i don't i don't
I totally feel like when these four other quarterbacks,
if that's how it happens, get plucked up early,
someone is going to jump up and make sure they don't sit around at 18 or 19
waiting for Lamar Jackson to fall for them.
That is nonsense.
My thought is maybe that...
He's a terrifying prospect to pass on.
My thought is he might go ahead of those guys, though.
Why not?
Because he is, like, his upside is the greatest running quarterback of all time.
I don't think that's that crazy.
He's coming into the league as maybe the greatest running quarterback in college football history.
The only comparison is Vic, and he's, like, kind of 15 years later than Vic,
so he's obviously, like, just at another level in terms of his running.
Like, that seems to have such a high base.
I'll start to interrupt you, Greg had that real sturdy build.
And so Vic, even though he was terrible at avoiding his, his body was meant to, you know,
built to endure that a little more.
He could talk, you know, he gets, there's a little, so Jackson is vulnerable.
He's slight a frame, and he still thinks he's Superman back there.
But they have that same wiggle, and I'll tell you what else, when they get outside the pocket,
there's not many.
Aaron Rogers is on the short list, you know, maybe like Maddie Stafford.
I'm not putting Lamar Jackson's arm strength in those three guys category necessarily,
but that wrist snap.
I know you guys must know what I'm talking about.
Just sort of like on the move, and, I mean, it's not wasted motion at all.
It gets there in a hurry, and it's, uh, Lamar Jackson's done a lot of things as a thrower and just as a quarterback.
He's a Louisville, okay? Louisville's not, like, you know, it's not one of the Blue Blood
College football programs. It's okay, and he had Bobby Petrino coaching him, but he's
running it up on Florida State or running it up on North Carolina, whoever, and I mean,
he's...
Just to put a bow on this one, what I'm hearing from you is not only is it wrong to say that
he's a huge project who will take a year or two, but a team would be forfeiting one of the
advantages of having him by sitting him on the bench because if you as you said if you have a coach
who can do it he has a he has the potential to take the league by storm if defenses aren't ready for him
and if you're sitting him on the bench you're forfeiting that potential well couldn't have said any
better buddy I mean but you drop him Kyle Shanahan or you drop him what about Josh McDaniels
of course I mean hey that sounds that sounds like a beautiful relationship to me you know
We'll see.
We'll see.
Can make up for drafting Tim Tebow.
This is not a Tim Tebow situation.
Exactly.
It's not a Tim Tebow situation.
But the right play caller, I mean, I will say flat out, there's no way that Lamar Jackson,
even if it's a six or eight game, you know, segment of one season that he doesn't
absolutely light it up with smart, even without smart play calling, really.
But if he has the right guy dialing it up, I mean, Lamar Jackson's not going to miss an open
guy 40, 50 yards down there.
He's not going to under throw.
it to be safe, you know, some Tebow, Tebow, lob, duck.
That's not the case.
This guy can really throw it.
But when you see him with the ball in your hands, I mean, he's electric.
Spice Rack?
You've made an incredible case for your boy.
I'll even let you real quick.
We've got to go, but I'm going to give you yes or no on this.
If you want to get in for the first time, I'm going to go get my lunch prop, that Lamar
Jackson goes top 10.
Do you want to put sandwiches out there as a prop?
Just throwing it out there.
And then we have a chance to take you on it.
want to do it just for fun
yes anybody want to take
why would I not take this a I'm in on this B yes
C whatever it takes to be in on this I so agree with him
I just think this is going to he's going to get rushed up the board
the idea it's nice in in early you know February to say this is going to go in
round two D.J. has him in round two right now nonsense I will
not nonsense to DJ but I will take you up on that spice wreck no way round two
no that was going to be one of my props Jackson goes in the
top 10. Oh, really? Sorry about that. No, it's all right. Wow. He was involved in one of my
props too, but in the spirit of this game, I will take Spice Rec on this. All right, so Wes and I
will take you on at Spice Rock. I, as you know, will be in Vegas in a few days and next week.
I do know that. We talk privately because we are friends. We are buddies now. We talk about
WrestleMania 7 and things of that nature. So if you do, in fact, lose that prop, I'll be right
in your neighborhood to collect both on behalf of myself and Chris Wesley. Bring it on,
Zeus.
All right.
Hey, Spicerack.
Great meeting with you guys.
A-minus.
Really nice work today.
I'll take it.
All right.
Get back to work.
Spice rack.
There he goes.
All right.
There we go.
When I hear him say we are friends, it tells me that there was a period of time, as Greg and Wes
and Mark have suspected where you were not.
When we weren't close friends?
Well, when something dark and mysterious happened that I think potentially one of you or the
both of you don't clearly remember, but there was a sense of a falling out.
If only we could get an insider to report on this.
I mean, I have not seen Spice Rack since that first meeting.
So I don't know what could have changed, but maybe you're right.
Maybe you're not.
Time passed.
Time passed.
All right.
So that's a great way.
Great Seg now into Go Get My Lunch, Draft Edition.
We already have one prop on the board that Lamar Jackson goes in the top 10, West and the old
Zucer have taken Spice Rack up on that.
And, of course, track all the props on go get my lunch.org, Nick Fortier, amazing work.
He has the all-time standings.
He has a soundboard.
He has who owes whom.
And just so everyone knows, last year, Wes, you had a nice draft eight and five.
Mark, what I was referring to last year was two-year props.
It will rain during draft hours.
That was not a terrible.
And it almost did, by the way.
But it did not.
And a team, that was normal.
A team misses a pick.
That was probably you're giving away sandwiches on one level.
It's only happened, what, once in 20 years, something like that?
Yeah, it was a bit off the cuff, but at the same time,
there were animals making picks and picks arriving by spaceship and stuff.
So, you know.
And it should be also mentioned, Greg, that the old Zucer went 11 and 2 last year.
So I have a, that is probably the all-time greatest single round in this game.
So I have a lot to live up to.
People still talk.
There is.
You walk down to cozy air.
And people, there's still a buzz about how you did in last year's sandwich wagers.
I did a 30 for 30 about it, actually.
I just recorded my parts for it.
It took a couple days.
ESPN passed on that, but you yourself came up.
All right.
So let's get into it, go around the board.
But we'll start as we always do with a universal prop.
And this universal prop, the second quarterback off the board will be blank.
Second.
That's so random because we don't even know who knows it first.
Exactly.
First, too easy.
Exactly.
Well, you could say first, and then most of us would probably say Donald.
Maybe Baker Mayfield.
Then maybe make Sam Darnold the second quarterback.
That's what it's about, Craig.
Let's go around the room, starting with you, Mark.
All right, second quarterback off the board,
and I expect it to go to the New York Jets will be Baker Mayfield.
Okay, Chris Wesley.
Josh Rosen.
I was waffling on those two options because Rosen is starting to pick up some heat with the Jets now
after Mayfield for the last 10 days or so,
but I will stick with Baker Mayfield's second quarterback off the board.
Sam Darnold, your boy, Mark, goes first.
I guess I'll go Baker Mayfield.
Okay.
Here we go.
Now we go through it.
Starting with you, Mark Sessler.
Your first prop.
All right, the tie-in that I mentioned, prediction.
NFL network draft Crystal baller Mike Mayock again becomes a major side plot
by destroying the league's somewhat corny day three shenanigans.
I will quantify this by saying A,
this is how you would measure a winner loss here.
Yeah, that's important.
Mayok trends on Twitter to some tangible degree.
I mean, like, legit Twitter heat.
Because here's your thing.
How about maybe U.S. trend?
U.S. trend.
That's the little sidebar.
On draft day, I don't think that's too much to ask.
Because I think there's another world here
where they basically say, they get in his ear and say,
no more.
You stay silent on all this stuff.
I don't think they control.
I'm just saying there's a world.
I think they love it.
Okay, so then, all right.
So part B of quantifying this.
There are at least a handful of articles, you know, all over the place,
written that quantify how much Mayok hates day three of the draft
and its ultra-excessive wave of tedious bells and whistles
that ponderously slow the process to a crawl
while guaranteeing that our Saturday wrap-up pod,
which used to operate efficiently,
now begins at like 645 Pacific Time
due to all the white, hot, overly slick anti-drama.
This narrative is very similar to the lions not showing up for the training kit.
Not done.
Basically, Mayok's annoyance needs to become a thing.
And you guys can decide if it does or does not.
We'd have to bet against that to...
You would say essentially it's going to pass without being a thing.
Well, my honest feeling on this is that NFL network is already baking this into their coverage.
That's why the cockatoo or the parrot is involved.
And whether it's a thing or not, they are going to needle Mayok on it until they get the reaction they need.
But you have incredible power, because if you decide yes, it becomes a...
thing, you will owe me sandwiches.
But if the three of you decide
it does not become a thing,
the same way that you snowballed me with the Philly
special, I will be teed up
to purchase yet another round of meat-infused
sandwiches for three well-fed whites
already making a bundle of money
to cover a child's game.
But teed up as far
as it goes when it comes to you paying out your
sandwiches. Right, yeah. This is like
what does it matter? I'm going to buy one of those
heroes that go the entire length
of the newsroom at this point.
So you're, the, it will happen.
I do, I feel like this.
You're saying it won't happen.
I'm saying it will happen.
Oh, I agree.
Well, who would disagree with that?
Well, I feel like the, the, this, the engine behind this particular prop got a little destroyed in our, in our pregame.
So even if, and I had nothing else prepared.
Even if we didn't bring it up, it was always about just you making this rant rather than a prop.
Let's, let's keep it real here.
This is, I think someone should take, I think someone should take me up on it.
This is a huge gamble, but I'm gambling.
that Mayock has learned how to laugh at himself.
But even then it'll become a thing and be trending and they'll make a...
And he'll laugh at himself by having fun of the idea of being annoyed.
I think it won't trend if he is like kind of playing along but being kind of annoyed
and no one really sense his real annoyment.
That's our day of the draft.
There's not a lot of pop.
That's the whole idea behind it.
Beyond trending on Twitter, there will be articles all over the place.
I want to find how much he hates it.
I will give you the copy.
that is your you can deal with that you can decide whether it has to be both or just one of the two
let's see at least a handful of articles written about how much mayok hates i think
both because i'm saying it's got it's got it's got to be both it's got to be both it's got to be
articles people writing articles it's got to be twitter trending in america and you know
you deciding whether or not it is what is the determination or what determines what a real
article is this has to show up in a published it's not time but it's not going to be up in newsweek
or time necessarily,
but it's going to be...
Literally anywhere.
A flood of sports articles.
A couple internet articles.
I think DeMeok is legitimately annoyed,
but he's playing for the camera
and is not going to allow himself to be needleed,
so he'll go along with it.
Well, let's see.
All right, I'm not sure about that one.
I've got to think about it a little bit longer.
The second part's a little...
There's no way to really quantify it.
Yeah, I think I'm walking into a truck.
You have extreme powers, so anyways, continue.
Go ahead, Wes.
I'm going to stay away from that.
The Colts will not draft.
at number six overall.
Sure, I'll take you up on that just for the fun of it.
I could certainly see that going either way.
I believe that the Colts are,
wrote about this in a mailbag today.
I think they are in what they hope is going to be like a accelerated rebuild
where they're looking at this year as a way to get everything back on track
and have luck playing and use this draft to rebuild
and they didn't spend in free agency.
they'll spend next year.
So I think it would make sense if what my hunch is there is correct
is that they are going to trade back, get more draft picks,
and continue to patch a roster that has so many holes.
I'm with you, and I feel like they, during the team press conference about the draft,
they made it almost painfully clear, oh, we see, you know, prime time players down at 12, 13, 14,
almost to telecast, we're going to move down.
and we already told you that we believe we got a good player at that place that we didn't
if Chubb fell to them at 6 I could see them sticking I don't think he's going to and I agree with you
I think they've always broadcast a high trade possibility and there's too many teams that got to race up to get
the quarterback cardinals they have that was kind of advertising like hey we're a place you can come
and draft if they stayed there and draft quentin Nelson which a lot of people speculated that
would be a perfect pick for them but six is so valuable they already they already you know you
had your trade value chart the other day.
They already wiped the floor with the Jets in terms of the trade value.
I mean, they picked up incredible value.
And so I think they'll be happy with that.
And they're such good players.
I'll say they'll stay.
Nobody's wiping.
If the Jets get their quarterback, the floor.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm just saying in terms of the trade value chart, I'm taking them up.
All right.
Just because I think it's less likely than 50%.
I like to do, because of the team I know the most, I always like to do one Jets one.
So I'll just say the Jets will draft Baker Mayfield.
Anybody taking me up on that?
And I get the field.
Every other player in the gym.
Every other field.
Every quarterback.
Yeah, I'll take it.
Why not?
I like, I always, I have a few rules that actually, you know, kind of go against you as a, as someone that would, you know, wager here.
It's not really smart.
But I like them all to line up.
I want to root for the same thing.
I already said Mayfield to the Jetser as the second quarterback.
So I'm just going to have to not take you.
Wow.
I just fully believe they're taking Mayfield.
I don't want to have two that are opposite each other.
So I just got West there.
Apologies.
You know what?
The other reason I lose in this game is like, oh, no, it's better for the show if I just take Ken up on something.
That's all in your head.
What you want to do.
Believe me, I'm up in my head on this game.
Okay.
All right.
So I just got West there.
All right.
You're up, Greg.
I will go with the Patriots take a quarterback in round one.
What about that?
Well, I will
I totally might
You will find out that I agree with you soon
I'm not taking you up in that course
They're taking a quarterback
In round one you're saying?
I said round one
I'll take you
I'll take you hanging it
Yeah I think they're going round two
And remember everybody's got to have at least one onion hanger
That might have to qualify
Because he took my Lamar Jackson in the top ten
I'm scrambling
I'm scrambling like Lamar
That
That ruins mine.
Well, I can expound on Gregs.
You only know like seven players in this draft, so it's tough to have a totally different point.
Round two, Mark.
Okay, this is very similar to Gregs.
But in the past, we've seen the Patriots address positional needs by drafting players in bunches.
Bunches, Dan.
They did it a tight end in 2010 with Rob Gruncowski and Aaron Hernandez.
They did it running back in 2011 with Shane Vareen and Stephen Ridley.
They did it in 2015 by nabbing three defensive linemen with their first four picks.
This introduction, this introduction on my part, laced with a heavy dose of cherry picking to push a point,
is my way of saying the Patriots will select no less than two quarterbacks in this draft,
not one but two.
Anything less than I will owe sandwiches to a trio of Caucasian football heads
who feel inclined to endlessly base in-studio parlor games around food and vice.
I will certainly get this bet wrong and be forced to Uber to an overly ornate sandwich shop
in the middle of some Los Angeles hipster mecca to pick up Vietnamese roast beef dipped lamb heroes
for a three pack of football scribes who can't get enough animal product in their bellies
while kicking their feet up on the chair and watching the clicks roll in on articles in beauty
with their untouchable grid iron knowledge.
This sounds like a fantasy world.
Where can I get that mark?
I'm stuck with the one who never pays off his sandwiches.
I love this guy.
This guy's great.
This guy's driving all over Los Angeles to pay off his debts.
That sandwich sounded delicious.
Why is there still glitter on this table from November?
And I will take you.
I will definitely take you on this.
Two QBs.
That's how you do this.
I'll take you, but you know what?
I don't feel great about it.
I think that sounds about right.
Maybe one in the first and one in the sixth.
And then you say Brian Hoyer beat it.
That does sound exactly like what they do.
But I'm going to take you just on principle.
All right.
For calling us, you know, Caucasian.
And don't think we forgot when you went on your U.S.O. trip, you never said boo to any of those guys that were eating steaks and all sorts of meals the entire time.
Come back here and you're picking on us about our eating habits.
I was their guest on some level, nor was I was not going.
They were also three or four times larger than me.
I was their guest.
How so?
They were guests.
I don't know.
I'm not going to sit there like, hi, I've known you for eight hours.
I'm going to start picking on the third dish that you've ordered as a main course tonight.
I'm intrigued by these Vietnamese heroes because that's the, I'm intrigued by these Vietnamese heroes.
Because that's combined.
I don't know.
I just remember.
Inherently are Greek and you got the Vietnamese, you know.
You guys are like all into Vietnamese sandwiches.
That's what I remember.
One time, what Mark's referring to, it's a now closed establishment.
But one time Mark had to pay off sandwiches and got us all Bonn Me sandwiches.
It was ridiculous.
And Mark was completely repulsed by the fire.
No, I just, it was like, it was like, what?
Really?
This is what you picked?
All right, Wes, you're up.
Oh, well, staying with the Patriots quarterback.
Okay.
Patriots will not trade up for a quarterback.
They won't trade up
They will not trade up
I will take you on that
For a quarterback
I will take you on that
As much as it would be saucy
If they did
I think it's more likely
That they do not
Yeah I'd be surprised
I'm with you
I'm going
There's so many Patriots
Quarterbacks props
Taking the on way
So Greg
Your philosophy of staying consistent
Who's the quarterback
That's going to fault
To them in the first round
If Lamar Jackson's going
In the top 10
I don't know
We'll see
Mason Rudolph
Maybe
All right
I let it at 31
Who knows?
I like this one.
Actually, I'll save that one for my last one because it's pretty wild.
We've got to go three?
We'll have an onion hanger.
Here we go.
One of the big four, it's a little bit of onion.
It is, I'm going to lose.
One of the big four, and as we know, Donald Rosen, Mayfield, Allen, is drafted by a 2017 playoff team.
Today, I'll show you a little bit of our growing huge onions.
I love it, and I'll take you.
I love it.
Because almost certainly Jets and Browns are taking quarterback,
so it's really just those two guys.
I mean, the only thing, though,
Bills makes it.
It's the Bills.
It's the Bills.
Yeah, I'm not going to take you on that.
Oh, that's some stinky bait.
I can't, I'm not taking you because the Bills are taking a quarterback.
They absolutely are.
Unless there's no quarterback from them to take.
They are, they are.
But if they take Lamar Jackson, Dan still went.
No, you said Big Four.
No, that's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
It has to be one of the big four.
It's, it is silly that Lamar Jackson's like,
Mara Jackson is like,
I beat Deshawn Watson in the Heisman,
and I can't get in a group with Josh Allen.
Josh Allen threw six interceptions against the JV team in Iowa last year.
So who's taking me on this?
You say that one of the playoff teams drafts,
one team that made the playoffs drafts one of the top four quarterbacks.
Of the four top quarterbacks,
Donald Rose and Mayfield Allen,
one of those guys or more gets drafted by a playoff team
from this past year.
I'm not going to take it just because of the bills factor.
Bill's still banging you all this time later.
I mean,
I think the bills are the trading up with the cult scenario that I see.
Nothing?
Sorry,
Stinky bait.
I got nothing there.
Well, don't you think that's, I would think that's a,
that would be a favorite.
Yeah, the bills.
You pet that up in the board and old, uh,
spice racks employers you know which i would never do they would be favorites that would be a favorite i would
think the bills take one of those quarterbacks that's what i'm saying so are you talking about so no
i'm not so you're not okay you're up great all right get ready because you know you guys maybe
haven't been doing the studying but watch out because isaiah win spelled at i s a i a i a
Isaiah Wynne, a guard from Georgia,
really like what he does as a road grader,
gets taken in picks 27 to 32.
Talk about stinky bait.
Hold on, I got to Google Isaiah win.
Hardly a sexy proposition, but...
It was supposed to be recognizing the fact
that I have no idea about any of these players
or what's going to happen.
Right.
Well, it's a straight guess for all of us.
I'll take you up because...
Just going to pick a guy in a spot.
You're being subversive.
I feel like it's probably going to happen.
You're going to win this.
Yeah, I'll take you on it.
Run around the hallways glowing, but I'll just take you up.
This is exactly how Greg gets to top the standings and then brags about it forever.
Have I said one word?
Some guard gets picked at 27 to 32 or what?
I have I said, have I bragged about this forever?
I'm with U.S.
I think the competitive, it's not a competitive one.
Just for Gets and shiggles, I will take it.
okay we'll see what happens but you're not going to get any credit if it checks out i don't want any credit
okay last round i'm trying to end this parlor game such a qualifier um if you get to a point where
there's too many things you don't want to do with our show you could leave the show oh it's not it's not
that now you're killing off go get my lunch or just maybe for the draft all of us you know we don't
really you know all right we'll we'll talk about that privately all right mark last round i'm trying
to decide which one to go with here um all right
right. How about this? We will see no less than four trades before we get to pick 20. And that
means trades that could happen starting now where someone trades up to number two. But like there
are at least four trades that impact the top 20 and not less. And you know what? I looked back
around because I've done something like this before and I got waxed in the past because that
doesn't happen as much as you think. It would be kind, it would be rare to see four. There isn't a lot
So the Jets trade doesn't count
Has to be a draft day trade
Right
Well what do you guys think
Does that not count?
I don't think that should count
Because that really would only be three
From here on out
I'll say four more trades
Which now feels very alike
Between now and the 20th pick
Or it would have to be like during the draft
No no no I think no no
Because if now
If the bills traded number two in two hours
That's one of that count
Yeah I'll take you on it
It's a good one
I'll take you
That seems like a good over under though
That sounds about right
Wes
I am not going to take it
I think the smart money
would be to take it
but I have
as Mark sometimes does
go by intuition
and I just have a feeling
there are going to be trained
cool
all right Wes
if the Giants stay at number two
they draft a quarterback
I will take you on that
I will take you too
I like that
that's my onion
yeah that is one
I like the
and I like it's an onion hanger
that's got a chance
the reel in
of sandwiches because I'll take you on it too.
Hmm. All right.
It's a good one because logic still dictates or it makes sense that the Giants would take a
quarterback.
Everything points to they should take a quarterback and we've heard nothing except for the
if Darnold Falls maybe and all that stuff.
Right.
It feels like maybe a smokescreen.
I'll take you on it, but would not be surprised.
I think I'm not likely to win it, but what the heck?
Hang an onion.
Got a hang an onion.
Walla Walla is a big onion.
Giant sweet Spanish onions are good
And a red Zeppelin is a big red onion
All right, this one I'm going to give credit
to Sylvester Valderrama on Twitter
Who threw it out there as an option to do it
And I liked it
At least one player from every major position
Outside kicker and punter
Gets drafted in the first round
Quarterback running back tight end
Wide receiver, tackle, guard, center
defensive tackle, defensive end
Outside linebacker, middle linebacker
or inside linebacker, cornerback, safety.
Everybody.
He's got safety covered, which is one you could look at and say maybe not.
Yeah, judging, looking at the kind of the, I'm now just scrolling through mock drafts essentially and cheating.
Wouldn't that be the case in a lot of first round, except for the center?
That might be your problem.
There's only one option.
There's one option, James Daniels.
Come on, Jamie.
I'll take you because it's fun.
I've heard three centers bandied a bam.
As a first round pick?
Yes, because the rest are almost all certain.
I don't know if this is, this feels like about a 50-50.
I feel like we are going to see every position.
No one is taking it.
No one has taken any of Dan's wagers.
That's the way to play, though.
That's the way to play.
It is his birthday.
It is his birthday.
And I'm going to take it to be a gentleman.
Thank you, Mark.
It's very kind of you.
Wes and Greg.
I guess I won't because to me it would be very, basically center is the only position
that possibly couldn't be taken.
Almost all the other...
Well, tight end is a little...
Oh, tight end, you're right.
A little dicey at that tight end position.
Greg's starting to feel like, Mike, got to get in on this action.
Get in.
I'm not going to take you.
Okay.
Finally, Greg.
And I'll go, because I think, I feel like you're...
You usually are right if you choose the quarterbacks to get taken earlier than expected.
I'll go, Mason Rudolph goes before pick 27 or earlier.
So he'll be the sixth quarterback taken.
theory. I'll even make it more specific for for no reason whatsoever, just throwing away sandwiches,
that he'll be the sixth quarterback and get taken 27 and earlier.
I will take you because of the specificity.
I will take you too. I like that.
I was going to say overly specific just so I would avoid trying to say specificity.
It's such a hard word.
Overly laser focused.
Yes, I'll take you on that for sure.
Because it's got two things have to go on your.
I think you're feeling maybe that.
That's New England's move.
He's banking on it.
The Saints, I mean, I picked 27 as a possibility as the backstop there.
Oh, this is the year.
The Saints tell all the reporters every year that they're going to take a first round quarterback
and they never do.
I think they tried.
They've been doing it since Grayson, Garrett Grayson, or whatever his name was.
Dick Grayson, Robbins, all three ago?
Whatever it is.
Go Get My Lunch.org.
It is the fine site run by Nick Fortier to track all of our wagers,
and we will circle back to this on Saturday's draft,
and that should remind everyone listening of the schedule,
because it is different this week.
The next time you'll hear from us is Thursday night.
We'll record late Thursday after the first round is completed,
a complete round one recap,
and then you'll hear from us again.
It only happens a couple times a year,
maybe once a year we do a Saturday show
and we will do
the full seven round
recap maybe some winners and losers
like I said go over our props
and that will be Mark
the off season will begin after that show
yes or no yes because it certainly has not been
an off season I think for any of us on any level
at all right that will get
that gets you to the point where there isn't
hey every five days there's a massive
NFL tent poll event that you must
attend or latch on to
intellectually.
I mean, it'll be a bit of a drag
because we'll have to get marked down
from the ceiling he's hanging on
on Saturday.
Listen, just move it along on day three.
And also...
Come on R2D2, for God's sakes.
And just to put this on your radar mark,
I'm thinking later in June,
I'm going to talk to some people
have you covered the rookie premiere event
in downtown Hollywood.
I've done that before.
I did it with you.
And once was enough.
All right.
So yes, you'll hear from us on Thursday night.
draft round one where
a lot of things will be different.
So lots to look forward to.
This is Dan Hansa signing off for Quiet Storm,
the mailman, the old boss,
and Lindsay Fulton behind the glass.
Thank you for that.
Drop, Lindsay.
It was very kind of you.
Happy birthday.
All right.
Till draft night.
Hey everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here.
And I'm Bucky Brooks.
On Move to Six, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies
to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters.
We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.
It's everything you need to understand.
and the why behind what happens on Sunday.
Don't miss it.
Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Marcus Grant.
And I'm Michael Florio,
and together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
Ready to dominate your fantasy league this season?
Then you need the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast,
your ultimate source for player news, draft tips, and winning strategies.
Whether you're a rookie manager,
or a fantasy vet.
We've got the insight to help you crush your opponents.
Listen to the NFL fantasy football podcast
on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL,
visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more.
This is an IHeart podcast.
