NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - NFL Owners Meetings: Matt Nagy, Frank Reich & Adam Gase

Episode Date: March 26, 2018

A room filled with heroes- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling & Marc Sessler- are live in Orlando, Florida for the annual owners meetings. The heroes sit down with the new Bears head coa...ch Matt Nagy, Colts head coach Frank Reich and Dolphins coach Adam Gase.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:00 Yes, here we are at the NFL's annual meeting, also known as the owner's meetings, coming live from Room 105 here at the beautiful Ritz. Oh, classy. Mama, you'd be proud of me. I talked to her today. She is proud of me. So it's cool. We're staying at the JW, which is right next door.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Not necessary to point that out. Lindsay Fulton, our producer, not even staying on the ground. And she's working through that emotionally. Unfair. We're actually camping out at the K-O-A campgrounds. We've got a tent. I can't wait until you can buy this place. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Oh, that's true. You'll have your revenge. Cash in that Bitcoin, millions of dollars. Very well invested. So this is great. We have a very interesting and different show today Monday, and we will have another show coming at you Tuesday from the owner's meetings and then another show later in the week on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:03:54 but you're going to hear from a lot of superstars. Superstars like, oh yeah, Matt Nagy? Did I mention Mr. Orchard Park here, Frank Reich? And don't you forget, don't you dare forget, Adam Gays. Anybody else? else today? That's today's slate, right? I think it's a pretty full slate today. So you're going to, yeah, go ahead. The little intro to the show is a quarterbanger. This is a double banger. This show and
Starting point is 00:04:32 tomorrow show. This is a quarter banger. This is a heavy duty banger, I would call it. So, yeah, we were staying at a beautiful resort and, you know, there's pool time. There's some nice restaurants. It's a nice Italian restaurant last night. And we'll be meeting up with some NFL media colleagues tomorrow's show. You'll hear from Rapsheet. He'll be back. There's some whispers and some more coaches in GM. So big heavy show, a banger, a double banger coming up. Who's excited? Mark, you're excited.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I am very excited. It is an incredible scene. Honestly, when we were walking around today, I walked away from you guys, went to a restaurant, went back to my room, Matt Patricia, Doug Peterson, saw Rapsheet and Albert Breyer and a bunch of others walk. Every four or five feet, there's some sort of luminary. There's wags floating around all over the place. It's quite a scene.
Starting point is 00:05:24 place you'll see families, you know, of like an owner, general manager playing football out on the lawn. Yeah. That's just not something you know. I saw one coach yelling at his kids in the, in the pool here, like, get out of the water. Get out of the water. Can't say who it was. Also, yeah, the stars are everywhere. The stars are out when we, we just had a lunch at a comically, uh, hipsterized, uh, eatery that we won't say where that is either, but it was not, it was a regrettable meal. And here I see, Mike Tarrico strolling through the restaurant. I almost stopped. I almost said, hey, we're the podcast that's been clogging your mentions for about a year straight.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I'm a big fan. Can I get a picture? But I chickened out. And I regret it. You know, the one of the owners meeting that I came to, there was a media party. And Tariko was holding court the entire time. I thought if only Dan could be here. You can meet him on a more even level.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I mean, you're a host. He's a host. You don't need to be taking pictures. That's what you should say when you walk up to him. You're a host, I'm a host. It might have been your only shot, though. It could have been. You've got to swing for the fences on those situations.
Starting point is 00:06:32 So there you go. We're a big show. You're going to hear our conversation starting with the new coach of the Chicago Bears. Matt Nagy. And we get to that right away and get to the bottom of the pronunciation saga that has gripped the nation since January. All right. Let's listen in around the NFL podcast from. the owner's meetings.
Starting point is 00:06:56 All right, here we are, room 105, the new head coach of the Chicago Bears. Matt Nagy? What's on, Matt? How you guys doing? Good. How are you? Welcome to the, are you cool with your intro music? Oh, yeah, I like it.
Starting point is 00:07:11 That's sweet. That's sweet. We try to pick something out for each coach that really speaks to his personality. This is what he chose for you. Little EDM. This is why you don't trust Wikipedia. Like, the first thing in your line was, Huge fan of electronic dance music.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Right off the top. And I know this has come up, but I want us to be like the source for the knowledge here. The buck stops here. Nagy v. Nagy. Both. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I got to hold your feet to the fire here a little bit, Matt. Because there has to be one way someone in your bloodline would be upset, right? If it wasn't pronounced the way that at some point it was deemed one way or the other, right? What does your family say? Well, they'll say both. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:07:57 It's kind of fascinating. You're ready for that one. High school was naggy. College was naggy. Right. So I, my name's Hansus, but everyone in the office for seven years calls me Han Zeus. And I just stopped correcting people. That's it.
Starting point is 00:08:11 So maybe it's a similar thing. We've struggled with this. We've talked about it because we need to pick one and stick to it as a podcast. So at least would you like. Yeah, go with Nagy. Negi. Yeah, there we go. They're settled.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Listen up, society. All right. How has it been so far? We were talking about right before we started the coach's picture is coming up later and that we love the coach's picture every year. I feel like I've written about it on NFL.com several times because it's just a fascinating artifact of the times. That's almost to me like the moment a new head coach arrives is when you're in that picture.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Any nerves about that? No nerves. Just excited to see what kind of Tommy Bahama shirt Coach Reed's going to be wearing. I've grown up through the years here being able to see that picture. picture over time and it's funny going back just again being close with Brad Childers as well who's been in those pictures and and it's intriguing getting to see some of the hair loss that goes on for these guys got coaches that actually make it and and that but no it'll be it'll be exciting and in all honesty it'll be fun to be able to be in that picture for the first time and
Starting point is 00:09:14 pretty pretty pretty special day for me has there been kind of a moment you know since you got the job that you sort of said to yourself like wow you know I'm a head coach. This is real. You know what? There is. Besides right now. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:30 In the mornings in my office, right when that sun is rising, and you just kind of look out there on the practice field and it's quiet. And no one's been into your office yet to kind of bother you or need something. And you kind of sit right there and you take it all in and you realize where you're at. And, you know, the Chicago Bears. And before that in the morning when you're walking in. you see that statue of George S. Hallis pointing and just the history and the tradition that goes along with this team is really cool.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And so for me, that'll never stop. And you know, the Bears for, I mean, for a long time, I think their fan base has struggled with a pretty unwatchable offense. It's just been, it's for as long as we've been doing our show, it's been hard to talk about the Bears. Not the most exciting team in recent years. No, but it seems like you guys are creating a lot of change. I just look at what you've done around,
Starting point is 00:10:23 Trubisky when you're adding some wide receiver help. Have you looked at teams like the Eagles, maybe like the Rams as sort of a blueprint on how you want to build around your quarterback, or do you come with your own total idea? When you add a Taylor-Gabriel, players around Mitchell Trubisky, what's the philosophy on what you wanted to do this off-season? Well, it's a good question. I mean, it's easy to say that that's the direction we're going to go because there's so many similarities between those teams and between what we have with the young quarterback and offensive-minded head coach. But at the same time, we want to make this our own team, which is, which we're going to do. But, you know, Doug's done a great job in Philadelphia. And just to see
Starting point is 00:11:03 what he did and how that came to fruition this year, the injuries, the adversity. That's the biggest thing is that team went through a lot of adversity. And so they stuck together as a group of guys as an organization that believed in one another. And to me, coming into this role for the first time, that's where it starts is inevitably something bad is going to happen. You're going to lose some games. You're going to drop some footballs. You're going to go on a streak that you don't want to be on, whether it is losing a game or whether it's losing your quarterback.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And how do you stick together? They did that, and they won the Super Bowl. So that's kind of the blueprint that we want to focus with in Chicago. And Mitch Trubisky came into the league, just 13 college starts, got some work last year. What have you seen when you study that tape? that gets you excited that this guy could be a franchise passer? Well, he grew from his first start to his last start. He grew, and that's all you can ask for.
Starting point is 00:11:59 There's different routes now that these teams go into with what we had in Kansas City last year, with Patrick, where you sit for a year, or you go to the route where you get the guy some hands-on experience and you get to play for 12 games in his case. So for him seeing on tape that he was able to grow as a quarterback, and then also have Coach Dave Ragon as our quarterback coach be able to kind of tell me how he grew as a person and how he grew in the hallways and in the classroom is what I'm really looking forward to seeing that keep going.
Starting point is 00:12:32 So it's going to be a challenge for him and we're going to throw a lot on his plate, but he'll do well with it. You know, going back a few years ago, I thought one of the most interesting, fascinating, colorful guys in the draft was Kevin White. And I interviewed him after the draft. I was so excited about his future. What are the expectations for him? He almost seems like an afterthought now with everything you've added on office. Yeah, so Kevin did come in here with a lot of expectations. That happens when you're a first round pick.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And so anybody that talks to him or even Kevin himself, he'll tell you, you know, hey, this isn't where he wants to be. He wants to be better. So this is a good start. This will be a fresh start for him to be able to come into this offense. We'll keep it simple in regards to just let him play one position and just get rid of all the clutter. forget the past. Let's come in here with a new start, and let's get that confidence back.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And physically, he's very talented. He can do a lot of things. He looks like he's working out like a man man. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, that's impressive. But that's the best part is you get guys like him that maybe haven't lived up to what they were, quote, unquote, supposed to live up to. And he's still young. So that's a, that's, I challenge our coaching staff to get the Kevin whites of the world to where they need to be. And when that happens now, it's a beautiful thing. Was there a part of you when Andy Reid was quoted late last season that you are maybe the best head coaching candidate he's ever coached? Was there a part of you that heard that? It was like, whoa, maybe come down there.
Starting point is 00:13:58 He's like, come down there, Big, man. That's a lot. Top 20 or something would have been good. It's like not too much expectation. And then my guy, Doug, goes on and wins the Super Bowl. So, you know, it's humbling. And that just goes to show the relationship that coach and I have. uh it'll it'll never never change i i've learned so much from from coach from the first day i stepped
Starting point is 00:14:22 into that building in philadelphia at the nova care to to when i left and gave him a big hug and just said thank you uh when i left kansas city and so uh we'll always stay in contact we'll always i'll be i'll be uh calling him and texting him all the time for advice uh he's he's he's a he is a special person and and so for him to say make that comment yeah it's it it means a lot but at the same time i got a ways to go yeah is there is there like for people that don't know him like what what is it about andy read maybe that he's inspired i guess for lack of a better word you know so many different people around the league that there's so many guys around around here that have been influenced by him well he's a teacher and and people don't understand that they see the guy on the sidelines on
Starting point is 00:15:07 sunday but uh from monday to to saturday in that building he's a teacher and he's and he teaches with extreme detail, and he cares genuinely for everybody in that building. There's a care and a concern for each of those guys, not just as players, but as people. That goes a long way. And you talk to any player that goes through, that plays on his teams, they realize that this guy really cares for me. Now, he's going to be hard on me at times, and he's going to check me, and he's going to make me accountable, but he's also going to make himself accountable. And you saw that last year when we struggled a little bit for coach to go ahead and pass the play calling duties on to me, number one, that shows everybody in that building that he looks at himself first.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And he doesn't just say that. And so there's that mutual respect instantly. And then he demands that from his coaching staff as well. All right, Matt, here we go. Now it is time for our famous speed round, I'm sure you've heard of it before, 8 o'clock delight. You ready? Let's go. Best Michael Jackson song.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Thriller. Did they fix the catch rule? Yes. True or false, blue moon beer actually tastes like salami juice. False. Would you give up a pinky toe if it guaranteed you to a Lombardi Trophy in six years? 100%. A thumb?
Starting point is 00:16:18 100%. Wow. The greatest generation, accurate nickname or needlessly bragging? Accurate nickname. Seriously, though, what's up with these kids today? Spoiled. Biggie or Tupac? Biggie.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Friends or Seinfeld? Friends. More masculine, changing a tire or opening a jar? Tire. Have you ever hitchhobie? Have you ever picked up a hitchhiker? Close. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Did the Internet make the world a better place? Yes. Beach volleyball. That seems fun. Love it. Should Barry Bonds be in the Hall of Fame? Yes. Sopranos or Mad Men?
Starting point is 00:16:59 Sopranos. Best Tom Petty song. Some American... American girl? American girl, yeah. Do you wear Cologne? Yes. Last question.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Best Steven Seagal movie Oh I am the worst Hard to kill is the answer Yeah I don't know Out of time I'm not a movie guy Sorry you were doing great there
Starting point is 00:17:25 To the end Matt Nagy Best of luck to you this season The Bears are an exciting team We're excited to see what happens next And good luck Yeah thank you Thank you Matt
Starting point is 00:17:34 All right there he is Matt Nagy And that was the crazy thing About the conversation I told him, I'm going to put your feet to the fire, and I came out of it still not knowing how to pronounce the name. I think he might have been trolling. He's been asked the question so many times that he seems.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Well, yes, right away, people are like, how do you pronounce this? Yeah, but everyone else has moved on except for else. They all moved on. Dan is the Woodward and the Bernstein of this situation. He seems extremely flexible with his surname, not a normal thing, I think. Abnormal. Very likable. The guy we walked out of the room and we were like, oh, that was fun.
Starting point is 00:18:10 what a good talk. I like Nagy a lot, and I think he's a laid-back guy, and I think, you know, you get the idea the fresh start is real in Chicago, and I think he's a breath of fresh air. I mean, even though Roder World is down on John Fox, you know, I think Fox is still like a good dude, maybe just not the right fit there, but Nagy is like, it's new. That was maybe the one dicey moment of the interview is when,
Starting point is 00:18:40 Mark mentioned how unwatchable the bears were last year. I think anyone... In a little look, you were absolutely speaking the truth. But for a second, you know, there was a look on Matt's face that was like, where's he going with this? You brought a back around. Also, behind me, like, I heard a thud. It was the PR guy. Yeah, I mean, what I was trying to do was show, you instill hope in this fan base, Mr. New Coach, and I think he does.
Starting point is 00:19:01 All right. Well, there you go. So, all right, so that was Nagy. And then we move on now. And we're going to now look at the Indianapolis Colts. and Frank Reich, who came in. Frank Reich, a big man. Big dude.
Starting point is 00:19:13 NFL quarterback-sized. Quarterback sized. And we talked to Frank all about, yes, his heroism in Western New York and his new start in Indy. So let's hear what he had to say. All right. Up next, he is a legend in Western New York. And now he's in the hope business in Indianapolis. It's Frank Reich.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Frank, how you doing? Welcome. to get you around the NFL podcast. Thank you. It's great to be here. How are you liking this head coach life so far? You know what? It's great.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Great to have the opportunity in Indianapolis where I've coached before. So know the city, walk into a building where you know the people in the building. Not many players left from when I was there, but excited to get to work. Do you ever, you know, at NFL Network, obviously they're playing the old games all the time. And the comeback comes on nonstop. I know you've been asked about it endlessly. But do you ever just sit back maybe in your living room with that thing's playing and say, I am the man. I pulled that thing off.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Like that, historic. I've tried to tell that to my wife, but we're still working on that. No, you know what? I really don't think about it too much. And, you know, it's just a question of always keeping your eyes forward. That's one of the great things about this business that you can appreciate it. And when I see my old teammates, now that is a lot of fun. There you go.
Starting point is 00:20:33 That is a blast. Now, when you see your old teammates and you get to talking about it. that for a little bit. But, you know, being in this business where we're at right now, that does not get to happen sometimes as often as you like. Well, with like DVRs now, you could just always keep it saved on your TV just in case and then just whenever you get in trouble, just kind of put it on in the background. Well, people are actually, that's true. Whenever you get in trouble? I'm just say it's just like, you just put it on and then like the family's walking by and you're like, oh yeah, remember that? Well, I should do that, but people actually are
Starting point is 00:21:02 surprised to hear that I still haven't actually ever watched the whole thing start to finish. You have one in college, too, don't you? One of the biggest comebacks in college history? We did have one in college in Maryland in 84, so against Miami. But, man, that was long, long time ago now. So what about this Colts team? How do you feel about, obviously, the opportunity kind of came out of nowhere, and are you settled into the job?
Starting point is 00:21:25 What is the thing that you're most looking forward to with the cults? You know, in this business, if you're a coach, the thing that you look forward to is working with players. That's what it's all about. It's like, you know, now's great. We're transitioning. you know, getting through, you know, going through combine, draft, all that stuff. But really where the building or the excitement and the juice comes into the building
Starting point is 00:21:45 is when the players come back into the building. Because you've got to get in the meeting room, you've got to get out in the field. You've got to form this bond, this chemistry that just I get chills even thinking about it, about getting together with a group of guys and wanting to have a common mission. Hey, we're going to turn this thing around. We're going to get it right. Now, let's go. Did you, like, ever imagine we were there at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:22:07 You know, I remember you at the podium, and obviously you were sky high. Did you ever imagine in that moment that a few days later you might be leading a team? No, I didn't. And, I mean, it was hard to imagine the winning of the game was, it was, I always thought it would be great. You know, hadn't been there five times previously and lost four as a player and won as a coach. You always wonder what that's going to be like if you got to experience it. And I always thought, hey, I'm a guy, I got a pretty good head on my shoulders. I know this is my aspiration.
Starting point is 00:22:38 This is what I'm fighting for every day in this business to get that, you know, ring and so on and so forth. But I'll kind of keep it cool. I mean, I lost my cool completely. I was literally running around the field, screaming and yelling my head off. It was a tremendous experience. And then to follow that up, you know, with getting an opportunity to come be the head coach with the Colts was about as good as it could get. And now you're here flying high with us. We won the Class C division co-ed softball.
Starting point is 00:23:06 title in the city of Los Angeles. Back to back, actually, no big deal. But so I know and we know that feeling. It's sky hot. It's a parallel. Well, no, that's what we do all know. That's what makes, that's why people love sports because I don't care. I mean, I've won things at different levels too.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And it is literally the same feeling. It's just sometimes on a bigger scale, but we all can relate. Yeah, we're all the same. Yeah, this is great. I was walking around calling everybody champion for a while after that. It's exactly how you feel. I totally get it. We, you know, on our podcast, we bet sandwiches sometimes on various football scenarios.
Starting point is 00:23:43 They're not bets. Wager. Proposition. I'm constantly corrected on this. But I, before the Super Bowl, I said that we would come out of that game with a play with a title attached to it that would be bigger than the helmet catch. Now, these guys tell me that the Philly special did not get the job done, that it was not bigger than the helmet catch. Hold on. Wasn't that it that it didn't get the job done?
Starting point is 00:24:04 How about you? How about you give us the final answer here? Was it bigger as the guy who designed the play? Fair person way in. Independent arbiter, Mark. Well, they do need an answer. I mean, you know, the Philly special, I granted, the helmet catch is certainly a worthy contender. And it was an ultimate play in Super Bowl history, obviously.
Starting point is 00:24:29 But I think the Philly special on a fourth and one, you know, on the goal line right there, it was just. And just how the trickery to it, I think, takes it to another level. And having the guts for, you know, Doug having the guts to call the play right then and there. I think that's what takes it over the top. Case closed, podcast over. Well, it's been settled. One thing I'm nervous about with the cults and a lot of people are Andrew Luck, okay? Everything else seems to make sense that the Indies on the rise.
Starting point is 00:24:56 But we still don't have any real idea, at least the football cognizanti, as I call. I don't really know if he's going to be on the field. Like, how confident are you, week one, Andrew Luck is your quarterback? I mean, I'm confident, but here's a thing. It does me no good to try to play that game and try to say, what does it matter? I mean, in this business, you learn that you just grind it out each day and you coach the guys are there. You're hopeful that he's going to be there. You plan that he's going to be there.
Starting point is 00:25:23 All the rehab is, you know, checking off all the boxes. Yep, we hit that stage, stage one, stage two, stage three. It's all been good, but, you know, we'll just have to keep progressing down that road. But have you imagined kind of, I'm sure you have, but gotten excited thinking about Andrew Luck, obviously seeing his old film, about how he's going to be in your offense? Oh, my, I can barely contain the excitement. I'm not going to lie. Because, you know, a couple years ago just watching him play coming out,
Starting point is 00:25:52 and you just know this guy is an elite in every sense of the word in every aspect that all the skills and talent and mental capabilities that you need and the physical trait. that you need, he's got them all. And so, and this, and then he's got this, this team first spirit. And I always think that the guys, when you get an elite player who's really a team first player, that's really where you, that can take your organization, your team to another level. And I think he has all those. I, full disclosure, Jets fan my whole life. So in the early 90s, maybe didn't like you as much. Now I like you a lot because now I've grown up and I've matured. Obviously, a half, a little bit. Big trade. Big trade.
Starting point is 00:26:32 between the Jets and Colts. To me, it seemed like a trade that works for everyone. And then I'm thinking to myself, if I'm the Colts, that you guys would be in position to maybe acquire more draft capital because this is such a quarterback-hungry draft. You guys, you're not sure you're picking at six, are you? Well, I mean, that's what to be determined, right? And I think, you know, Chris Bauer has done a great job
Starting point is 00:26:56 of really setting the lead and setting the tone and what we're going to do there as an organization. And it's been fun to talk about it, with them, you know, and what are the plans? And because we do have a quarterback that we believe in and obviously believe is going to be ready to go, I'm thrilled the fact that there's four quarterbacks who are highly talented coming out this year. And I hope they go one, two, three, four.
Starting point is 00:27:17 That'd be great for us. So that gives us the opportunity to look at scenarios where normally, you know, trading back three to six, where if you're thinking it's all quarterbacks and we don't need one, then you're really do the math, you really don't have the sixth pick. you really have the, you know, in the same so-ons. So that might be able to put you in a scenario where you can think about going back one more time. But I think at the end of the day, you know, Chris will pull the trigger if he thinks it's best for the organization. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:45 All right. Now's the time. This is the crucible right here. Speed round, 8 o'clock delight. You ready, Frank? Let's go. Let's do it. Best Super Bowl halftime show ever. Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Tom Brady. You buying this? His career. Just buying it. Everything. Are you in? How are you in on Tom Brady? I'm in.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I think he's saying. Most embarrassing CD or album in your possession? Most embarrassing album? Yeah, like CD music. Oh, CD? I didn't hear that part. Oh, man. Pass.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Worst way to lose a Super Bowl. Chipshot field goal miss or catch rule shenanigans. Catch rule shenanigans. Did they fix the catch rule? We're in the proposed rule. We'll see. Why aren't there more good football movies? Weird, right?
Starting point is 00:28:31 It is weird. Yeah. Did the internet make the world better or worse? Better. Beach volleyball. That seems fun. Yeah, I'm into it. Jerry McGuire, sports movie or chick flick? Chick flick. Are we allowed to say chick flick anymore?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Yes. Is there intelligent life beyond this planet? Yes. Do you believe in the concept of alien abduction? No. Is it time to move on from the Gatorade Bath? Teddardt's wrong. No, I'm a traditionalist.
Starting point is 00:29:00 least deserving best picture winner crash or shakespeare in love last show you binge watched oh i don't i'm not a binge watcher i'm a coach i don't i can't binge watch jordan or lebrun jordan well you go finish strong isn't that it's a little stressful i don't think i got about a c grade on that that test right answer yeah it is a crucible i'm not so good at that i thought you did great frank and we're very excited to see what happens next with the cults hopefully with your quarterback behind center and healthy because it'll be a lot of fun to see frank
Starting point is 00:29:33 rike and Andrew luck working together i appreciate it all right thanks frank so there you go frank rike so even though he told us that he doesn't watch that comeback victory mark has privately assured us that the frank rike is sitting at home watching it i mean the mark's tone when we're talking about it right after he's like oh it's definitely a fact that he watches it i i just think it would have been number one that wasn't his last run around with the bill your job after a game, a playoff game is to sit down and review all tape. I just would imagine that he has watched it.
Starting point is 00:30:06 But he told us he hadn't, so I must take him at his word, I guess. Why should I be sitting here saying he didn't? You'd see you very confident that he was lying. So we shouldn't take you at your word from two hours ago. No. You could see how we're in a difficult situation. Yeah, and to put that on the public airwaves helps,
Starting point is 00:30:22 I'm sure hopefully the Bill's PR will be zoning in on this. And the other thing about Reich, straight shooter, football coach, all the way. Yeah. The look that Frank gave me when I asked him the Tom Brady question in the speed round, I've never seen a man look through me like that. It was he was processing.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I love Tom Brady. Tom Brady. You know. You know. You're buying? That was the closest I've ever been to throwing a life raft to somebody in an interview. He needed it. So Frank right there with the cults.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And he did. If any future coaches, you know, on tomorrow's show are listening, you know, yeah, you're buying Tom Brady. That's a good answer. Absolutely. And he did. I asked the Andrew Luck question. He's answering the same way the Colts have been answering forever. Nobody can say with absolute clarity he's our quarterback. But they're all excited to work with him. Yeah, everyone's excited to work with Andrew Luck. We just don't know if he will be working with us. Yeah, there's definitely a party line on that quarterback situation and it doesn't seem like it's going to change. I do think, though, even though there was a time when Colts fans thought we're getting Josh McDaniels, I really continue to think this might be a blessing in disguise. Frank Wright, Maybe he didn't know how to answer his favorite CD or record or whatever, but he is all in on football.
Starting point is 00:31:34 The guy is like, he's so excited to coach and coach players. I really think Frank Reich is going to surprise Colts fans. Are you calling him a life remark? He is that, though, all these coaches. Come on, I know you're making fun of that, but it's like, it's like he is, he's a football speak, football coach speak machine, but he's sort of, I buy it with him. All right, good. I don't think it's.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I'm done talking. I would say that. It's not even coach speak. That's who, that's the life he leads. I just think that's who he's always sort of been. He's 100% football. There's like 14 pools, by the way, on this giant resort, which basically covers a county, like a or a small city is the size of these grounds.
Starting point is 00:32:16 And none of us brought the Speedos, no Speedos in a suitcase. What a missed opportunity? I did sit out by the pool, though, yesterday. Shirt off? No, I did not. What did you witness? I brought trunks. It was a mix of families
Starting point is 00:32:30 And there was some spring break There was like a lazy river With people going down at some beers I mean it was it was rocking What would it take for me to see you With your shirt off this weekend This weekend Yeah
Starting point is 00:32:42 This is to Greg by the way 20 bucks Yeah open question to anybody here Money 20 bucks I'd do it for free During this trip Yeah I'd pay you to see me
Starting point is 00:32:50 Without my shirt on Great All right Moving on That was very interesting. I'm trying to up the ante from Wes. He went free. I mean, I got to make it a better deal than West.
Starting point is 00:33:03 That's true. That's true. All right, moving on. Finally, our final guest on today's show. And again, a reminder, more coming tomorrow, including our boy, Andy Reid, one of the top coaches in the game, entering his 20th season as a head coach. That's crazy. But first, a man who was once an offense squad.
Starting point is 00:33:27 coordinator in the Peyton Manning Hayday. He then leveraged that move, that gig, into the head coaching job for the Miami Dolphins. He's entering his third year under potentially difficult circumstances. We talked to Adam Gase about the plan ahead and the challenge ahead for his Miami Dolphins. All right. Up next. And Hotel Suite. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:53 It's just a regular room. 105. The head coach of the Miami Dolph-C. We were very honest with our audience, Adam. So right off the bat, you should feel comfortable. The head coach of the Miami Dolphins, Adam Gaines. Adam Gase. What am I at a club?
Starting point is 00:34:12 Yeah. Adam making a very quizzical face. We thought, what says Adam Gase? This song we're here. Not this. House music. Struck out. Yeah, obviously, in Miami, the nightlife.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Worryed about that? General, is it like something? We're more in Davy, Fort Lauderdale area. That's true. Not quite South Beach. But do you ever maybe get into a disguise, maybe head out to one of the clubs just to see what the youth are up to? No.
Starting point is 00:34:39 No. I thought maybe it would not be not a good scene for me. You've got a family. You've got a family. Yeah. But anyway, so Adam Gase is with us. Third year with the Dolphins. And is this the year that Tom Brady goes away?
Starting point is 00:34:56 and some other team in the AFC East rises up? I'm not going to say that. You know, I think watching Tom Brady for as long, you know, I mean, I think we graduated the same year. Wow. So, you know, he was, we were both seniors the same, you know, same year. And, you know, obviously he gets drafted. And I went to go work at LSU.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And just watching him over the years, it's unbelievable. And it just gets better and better. it's awesome to watch when you're not playing them when you're playing them you try to do everything you can to disrupt them it just doesn't always work one thing I've wondered you're entering your third year now as a head coach
Starting point is 00:35:37 like what is the difference emotionally between being the coordinator and being a head coach that's a good question I guess I never thought of that you're a guy I think that sometimes
Starting point is 00:35:51 you like to wear your emotions on your sleeves Yeah, sometimes you try to hide it. It's hard to. Feel free to go nuts on Mark. I don't think that's a bad thing. That's coaches throughout NFL history. That's almost more the norm, but now it's sort of more the trend that coaches keep it underwept.
Starting point is 00:36:09 A lot of great coaches in history wear their emotions on their sleeves. I think a lot of the times if something good or bad happens, you're trying not to be over the top either way because you know there's a long way to go. And especially in this league, everything comes down to the last five minutes of the game. So you just can't get too high, too low. You try to stay even keel. It's tough, though, because sometimes you really want to go one way or the other.
Starting point is 00:36:36 But, you know, your players are trying to do the same thing. They're trying to make sure that they stay, you know, even level to where they can keep competing through the whole game. And when you were, I mean, you were a coordinator. You famously were texting Peyton Manning late at night. I'd love to know more about, like, those conversations what went on there. But as a head coach, are you... Adam's like, when will this will end at some point? My Yahoo account deleted almost all my voice memos that I had saved.
Starting point is 00:37:04 As a head coach, do you really keep one-on-one touch with the players during the season that way with that sort of intimacy? Intimacy may not be the word. It's different for every player. It depends what position you are. You know, when you're going during the season, you know, our hours are different. when we're with the players, you know, we're working with them, whether it be installing practice, watching tape. And, you know, when you, you know, myself or the coaches on the staff, when you have a chance to actually watch film on your own, then all of a sudden you might see something
Starting point is 00:37:36 you want to remind one of your players you don't want to forget. And it's so easy to be able to text a guy and say like, hey, just remember, hey, take a look at this play or, hey, what do you think of this? And just get their opinion because those are the guys that are doing it. And I love when I get great feedback of, oh, I love that idea, or I don't know if that's for me. I mean, at least you know you want to put the guys in the best position possible. That might be getting an edge on Belchick. I don't know if he's texting his players, you know. You never know.
Starting point is 00:38:01 You can use technology to your advantage. He's not going to tell you, so, I mean, he might be. What does he call it, my face? Yeah, he always, you always know. When you first get your head coaching job, it takes a while to kind of put your stamp on the team. Now that we're in year three, what would you say is the identity of like the Adam gay dolphins. That's a tough question.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Hopefully we're developing the kind of team that figures out the right way to win the game for that week and being able to, you know, it's tough to explain as far as what we're exactly looking to be because we've changed a lot of our personnel. And, you know, every week is so different. You're playing all these different styles of teams and you have to be able to morph into what you need to to win that game.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And hopefully our players are really doing a better job this year than what we did last year. That's kind of like what Belichick does. Everyone always says he adjust his game plan to that specific opponent more than most coaches do. I think a lot of my, you know, beginning of my career was Nick Saban. I think Mike Martz had a big impact on me. And then you look at it, I think Josh McDaniels had a big impact on me. And, you know, two of those guys are, you know, from that, from that. that tree that has allowed me to kind of learn from the you know with their experiences and you
Starting point is 00:39:23 didn't have your starting court you've been there two years and you didn't have your starting quarterback for for one of those two years yeah i think we got 33 games in he's played 13 so you know it'll be great to get him back you know not that i kept track of but you know just seeing him around and rehabbing and you know seeing his intensity you can tell he's ready to go i think last year was tough for him but he did a great job, trying to help guys as much as he could. And, you know, he let Jay be the quarterback. He did a good job of kind of taking a step back, but I could tell it was killing him that he couldn't be out there.
Starting point is 00:39:55 How was the decision-making process of like, okay, he wasn't there all of last year, but hey, this is, you know, our guy, because right now he is, you know, the quarterback for the dolphins. Yeah, I don't think we really had much discussion. We knew that he was going to be our guy. We felt like we had made really big strides the year before where if he stayed healthy. I'm not really sure how much better we would have got. I mean, he was really, that Arizona game was one of his best games of the year. And unfortunately, he got hurt. And, you know, we were, we were looking forward to see what happened.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Do you think we've seen the last of Jay Cutler? I don't know. I mean, I don't want to. Did it seem like he still had the fire in the belly after the season? You know, I don't know if I really talked to him about him. Yeah. About that. You know, I just, that's a, that's a tough conversation to have with somebody. It's not, not as easy as everybody thinks where you just, you know, walk up to somebody like, hey, you're retiring? Like, yeah, it's not easy. How about this?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Do you think he'd be a good announcer? Mm. I think he would be very cutting. I think he would be very honest. That's it. I would not want to be a play caller with him announcing a game because he would absolutely annihil it. You don't think he would be easier on you, though?
Starting point is 00:41:04 No, I think he would kill me. Don't you think that makes a good announcer, though? Oh, yeah. I think it would be hilarious to watch if you're not the person. Yeah, you're kind of the announcer, whist. maybe because Peyton Manning getting in the mix potentially for these jobs you could have Peyton on one network Jay Cutler yeah this is all bad this is all bad for me because this would be their opportunity to be like okay I remember this and I didn't like and let's make sure
Starting point is 00:41:27 that we we handled this the right way how does it going to change your defense not having in Domkin's sue there well I mean we're still going to have the same style you know Matt's going to stick with our you know we're going to stay with our wide nine and we're going to be an attacking front and you know we'd like some of our young players that a lot of people probably don't really know that we're looking forward to to getting more, you know, get more reps and we've got to see what else we're going to add to the mix here between the end of free agency and the draft. So we'll kind of see how that plays out inside, but I like our defensive ends right now.
Starting point is 00:41:59 We're pretty deep there and adding Robert Quinn, we've got William Hayes back. I'm liking our past rush and Charles Harris coming up and Cam Wake still, you know, doing his thing. It's unbelievable to watch this guy work day in and day out and play on. Sundays because, you know, he's defying age. Yeah. As a coach, like, what is your part of the process there? Because in Dominica, too, is a guy who's still playing very well for you? So as a coach, like, is it kind of hard for you to be part of a decision that's saying,
Starting point is 00:42:29 hey, we're saying goodbye to a player who is playing well? Yeah, I mean, the whole process of all this is it's not easy, especially, you know, this day and age you have, there's a different relationship there. I think it's not so much. here's who's in charge and like there's this hierarchy. I think, you know, players and coaches in front, everybody's kind of in it together. And it's when somebody leaves, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I mean, it's tough for everybody. You know, when Mike Pouncey gets released, that's not easy to go through. It's horrible because that's somebody that this organization has been with, you know, for a long period of time, he's been here. This is what he knows. And all he's been trying to do is help this organization win. He's given everything he's had.
Starting point is 00:43:11 And, you know, he has to it. And, you know, when that time comes and we end up doing that, that's a, that's a, that's a brutal phone call to have to make and have that conversation. All right, Adam. It's time for our iconic speed round game. It's called 8 o'clock delight. It's the crucible of this interview. Are you ready? Sure.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Hit it, Lindsay. Jordan or LeBuyer, Tupac. Jordan. Biggie or Tupac. Ooh, Tupac. Friends are Seinfeld. Seinfeld. Sure or false. Game of Thrones is actually stupid.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I don't even know what Game of Thrones is. Interesting. Greatest SNL cast member of all time. Chris Farley. That's a good one. Once the last time you took a nice relaxing bath? Never. Most overrated planet.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I mean, I don't know. Pass. Favorite animal. Pass again. Come on dolphin, at least. You know, the top of tea. Are you a fan of the arts and crafts? No.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Have you ever seen a ghost? Not that I'm aware of. Meryl Streep, maybe a bit overrated? No idea. One NFL coach, past or present, who scares you? Bill Cower. Would you give up a pinky toe if it guaranteed you a Lombardi trophy in six years? 100%.
Starting point is 00:44:37 A thumb? Yes. A leg? Yes. Oh, leg. First guy to go leg. Can the coolest guy in the team be the kicker? No.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Do you wear Cologne? No. Best Tom Petty song. Ooh. Mary Jane. Oh, he gets it in. Right under the gun. Well done.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Beautifully done. And that's a great song. I know, but there's probably better ones. That was the first one that popped in my head. Yeah, that little late period. Multiple coaches couldn't even pull one out of their head. So you did a great job. I think you're winning.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Yeah. I think, was it, Matt Nagy said American Girl. So all good options. Adam Gates, best of luck. We know what big birthday is coming up to. We don't have to bring it up, but it's happening, and that's part of life. You just can't stop time. So happy 40th later this month.
Starting point is 00:45:27 It was almost going to be dinner with Baker Mayfield on my 40th birthday. Can you imagine that in Norman, Oklahoma? But we were able to move it up. That would be romantic, yeah. I'm sure he would enjoy it. I bring out the cake. Well, that's interesting. What were you guys going to talk about him?
Starting point is 00:45:44 No, well, we were going to do his workout then, and we had to move. We moved some things around, so we were able to get that out of the way already. They're just big, like, Korean barbecue fans and wanted to get out. Nothing to do with football. All right, there you go. Adam Gase, best of luck this year. All right, thanks, guys. Thanks, Adam.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Let me know what you guys think. My thought, and Gase, I thought he was a very nice guy, interesting guy, and down to earth. But did any of you guys sense the idea that he, understands that he's up against it a little bit right now with some of these roster moves and the direction of the franchise, a quarterback coming off an injury, being in year three and kind of having to start over because he lost last year with Tana Hill's injury. I feel like you could sense that Gase knows the pressure's on in year three. I think Dolphins fans agree with him.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah, I think when I asked him about the identity and he couldn't really give us an identity be after two years. But a lot goes into that, you know, releasing Sue, trading Landry, these guys that he wanted to build around. And, you know, maybe he doesn't want to get rid of him, but the organization does. So that's a challenge that maybe we don't see when we're sitting in the podcast studio that he has to deal with. But yeah, to me, he seems like a guy who three years into the job isn't sure what they are yet. Well, I really, I think that just might be his nature though every these are just different people and they have different kind of personality types and I think he's the type even if things were going really well might give off that you know that sort of
Starting point is 00:47:15 I like that about him that he wears kind of emotions on his sleeve he even sort of did it here like you could see depending on the question how how he's interpreting it's going to give you a look and and I like that I came away from it I don't know he's an intriguing intriguing NFL personality and it is it is a challenging situation. They haven't they haven't had sustained success there for a long time and he knows that, but I give him a chance. The nugget that I thought was interesting. I'm not saying I'm not giving him a chance. I'm just saying I look in the man's eyes and you get in the room and it's a little different when you're actually talking to them and asking the questions that it's not easy. If you're the head coach of the dolphins and the organization, the moves they're making right now,
Starting point is 00:47:58 it's hard to say they're going necessarily in a forward direction. At best, maybe. they're going sideways, I sense that he understands that. It's a tough situation. Yeah, I think he, and you have to be the coach coming out and not throwing people under the bus, but trying to back what the committee of people have agreed to do. And he may not have gotten his way on all those decisions. It was interesting, the nugget at the end where he talked about potentially spending his 40th birthday with Baker Mayfield, because the one thing that could change everything for
Starting point is 00:48:27 the dolphins, and it's not an anti-Tanahill take, but someone like a Baker Mayfield, if he proves to be as exciting a pro player as he was a college player could take the dolphins who have been a somewhat dull team to watch, in my opinion, and completely change the way they are on office. They're kind of a sleeper. They're a bit of a sleeper in the first round
Starting point is 00:48:47 in this quarterback conversation, but that makes a lot of sense in the world. They've been waiting for five years for Tana Hill takeoff. Now he's got the knee issue. So we'll see what happens. All right. By the way, a message from our sponsor.
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Starting point is 00:50:49 We had a couple new guests, actually. General Manager of the surging Los Angeles Rams less need. I feel like less would be into it, actually. He's on the L.A. scene. He's mere miles away from the downtown rave. Yes. You know, scenario. I could see it.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah. We'll talk to, and you read, we'll talk to a Khan family member connected to the Jacksonville Jaguars. How about that? Tony Khan. That's Tony. I was maybe, maybe it's the owner. But Tony, we're happy to have Tony as well. Aga Khan.
Starting point is 00:51:24 John Harbaugh, another famous famous family. John Harba, a Super Bowl winning coach. All these people won't on Tuesday, but we'll be rolling these out the rest of the week. Yeah, so we're very excited. And, of course, as I said earlier, Rapsheet will come and do the news with us. So a lot of fun. We're happy to be here. Mark's itching, itching to get by that pool, rip that shirt off.
Starting point is 00:51:44 He said, listen, I worked hard for this body. I've given up meats for a reason for my body. Not working so hard of late, but I will get back on that. all right so there you go this is uh deadheads is signing off for a quiet storm the mailman the old boss and lindsay fulton behind the glass oh my goodness we're paradise it's orlando baby the tuesday Hey, everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks.
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