NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - NFL rules we'd change

Episode Date: March 23, 2016

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Colleen Wolfe discuss the latest news from the NFL, including Sean Payton signing an extension with the Saints and Justin Houston’s knee injury. Then, Marc Sessler calls in from Florida to break down the latest rule changes before the heroes share their NFL rules they would change today.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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nfl.com slash podcast you can find it on iTunes as well as youtube on the NFL channel just pump in move the sticks the around the NFL podcast won a stitcher award i think where the hell is that thing Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Colleen Wolf. Oh. Chris Wessling and Greg Rosethal. What's up, boys, and girl?

Hey, Dan. It's weird when you say and girl, and then Wes immediately responds. Hey, Dave. Yeah, what are you, a girl, Wes? Nailed it. I don't know. You don't know. Let's talk about it.

Let's a dive in. You're not sure? I'm fine. Whatever you are. I've just thrown off. by this whole, I don't know. Whatever you are, we love you, us. Why did it go there?

I don't know. Colleen is a girl, a woman, actually. What's up? Hey, how's it going? How are you that old? I'm okay. I'm not feeling great. Got the Las Vegas flu.

Oh. You know. I think I got sick in Vegas. Was it because of Spice rack? Spice rack. Yeah. First of all, spice rack. Chris Wessling's Desert Consigliari.

was an incredible host. Really? Yes, we got to know Spicy a little bit and he took care of all the drink tab at his casino slash lounge bar pool club area. That sounds like a wonderful spot. Which is basically like winning, you know, $300 at the blackjack table.

I mean, that's because it's ridiculous, Vegas. Spicey's generous. Yeah. So how tall would you say the Spice racket? spicy is uh i would say six five maybe six six six he's a tall drink of water um but very nice man but you know i'm aging getting older and you know staying out very late friday night and then not sleeping saturday and then staying spicy saturday rolled around it's hardcore because we went to the pool uh at at this place i don't know if i should say the casino so i'm not saying

on purpose, where Russell Wilson and Sierra were cited at a bungalow next to us, which was interesting. Whoa. Yeah. You were in a bungalow, too? No, I wasn't. We were at the bar area, but it was right next to us. Was he Instagramming the whole time? He, you know, he looked uncomfortable.

He looked uncomfortable. He's not a comfortable guy. Like, he seems uncomfortable in his skin. Yeah. I didn't see that. Wait, you're saying a guy who sent out an Instagram video right after he asked his wife to marry him? and then ended that with yeah is awkward a little bit a little bit yeah but then siara performed some songs it was just like very surreal and i you know and then we went back to

spicy's hut and uh had some more free drinks uh and finally found and this was the best part of the night because um the whole thing now with the kids today in Vegas it's all about the edm it's all about the edm and it's like the kids today in Vegas well what was it like when you do and what was it like when you hip hop there was more hip hop there was club music but then there was

a nice mix and finally Saturday night I said to spicy spicy is anywhere that plays kind of like hip hop music in a bar or club and he took me to an underground bar within the grounds of his hotel wow that was a hip hop bar so many layers

but this stage this stage Greg is over for me in Vegas. I don't know. Yeah, you're getting up there. Yeah, it's time to pivot. If there is a future for the old Zeus are in Vegas, it won't be the way this weekend one, but the spice rack delivered in a big way to,

and just like it salvaged your weekend was. Not that I needed the weekend salvage, but it was the high point, spicy Saturday. I'm noticing a trend, too, you know, as you're getting up there in years, Dan. Younger than you, by the way. You came back, that's true, by year. You came back from the Dominican Republic, got sick after that, came back from Vegas.

You know, the old party lifestyle is tough. I was sick before Dominican, but it's beside the point. Yeah, I think I got sick from being old in Vegas. Well, I hope you're feeling better soon. Thank you, Colleen. Today's podcast, see, can't even talk. It's over. Today's podcast, solid one.

I'm going to give it a pregrade of B. First ever pregrade. goodness all right uh a lot of news to get to um the NFL annual meeting is wrapped up mark sessler uh collie and of course is sitting in the sizz slisler chair today he is uh and an airport right now getting ready to fly back to california i'm sure he's not thrilled about it because he's been loving life in boker atone i can see very obvious he's been cranking out articles talking to coaches and gms making friends hitting up the mini bar getting some time by himself That's the sizzler lifestyle, and it's all about to end.

It's going to come to a crashing thud in, oh, seven hours or so. Well, hopefully we can get him on the show. We're not sure because he's going through security now. He's, you know, he's waiting in line. So is he like a security risk where they're going to pull him aside? I would think he'll have time to get through security, find a quiet place, and we can call it maybe at the end of the show. But you never know what these things.

I hope so. He'll be in high spirits. He will be. He's going to be flying. so we'll talk about what's going on in the news we will also because there are some new rule changes that are now officially going to affect in the 2016 season some of them seem solid some seem like maybe they are problematic but the crew here the four of us have our own rule changes that if we have the power it would go straight through legislation and become rules in 2016 so we'll share what our rule changes would be unfortunately no one listens to us One day. Well, our listeners listen to us. They count.

They count, but they can't make a difference when it comes to changing. Well, I, you know, that can be true. But with a little momentum and a little time, you never know. I mean, the upright field goal movement was something Adam Carolla really spearheaded. But I consider myself as someone who was a champion for that for years. And eventually, they extended the goalpost. So maybe we could do it. Wait a second.

Are you sneaky tying yourself to that rule change? Yeah. Do you think you made a difference? I don't think I, no, I don't really think I made a difference. But it was something I championed for years before that. Say on Twitter, I, you know, I talked to the people, you know, I even asked a question about it. We're happy for you. It was big.

And we will. All right. So good. We're going to, maybe that will, a similar thing will go down with at least one of these rule changes that we have. I hope so. Or change.org. There's always that, too. Oh, yes.

I'm always signing petitions. How come nothing ever comes of that? I know. Let's check behind the glass with the Irishman. How are you doing, Brandon? It sounds like better than you. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm fighting through it.

I'm fine. I have to say that, would you have liked to go to a club that was playing some 8 o'clock delight more so than that other music? Well, let's hear it. Kind of sounds like Wes's teenage years at the disco. I think. You're in your sunglasses. By the time I was drinking age, less roller skating.

The disco movement had a slight comeback in the early to mid-90s. Well, with like delight and artists like that. It was like Have a Nice Day Cafe and all that stuff. Yeah. What? There was a bar. I think it was called Have a Nice Day Cafe

where it was like a disco motif in the 90s. Ace of Bass. I hated Ace of Base. Love them. Oh, my God. If I never hear the sign. Apparently had secret neo-Nazi leanings. Was that all the two?

That came out, literally. Oh, what a terrible song. That kind of sounds like one of those 90s rumors. No, it was very recent. Really? I read a story on it that supposedly they were a Nazi band. Oh, we'll have to read into that. Maybe that'll be a few item for tomorrow's podcast.

Let's start with the news. Yeah, that's down the road. The fascist podcast coming up. Sean Payton, let's start with him. Not a fascist. I don't think so. He has agreed to a five-year contract with the Saints. Peyton himself announced that he agreed to that five-year extension,

which will take him through the 2020 season. He has not yet signed the deal, but he has been the coach in New Orleans since 2006. Currently, the third longest tenured NFL coach. Saints are 87 to 57 in Peyton's time there, a Super Bowl, of course, which Greg remembers fondly. However, seven years ago now.

However, Mr. Rosenthal, this has been a mediocre to poor team for several years now, and now you give them five years. Why? I feel like they are doing things the wrong way, that they go back to back seven and nine seasons, and they are doubling down on Sean Payton and Drew Brees and doubling down on money,

and I'm not really sure why. what is the leverage that Sean Payton had here? He made it sound like the entire season or at least sources close to Sean Payton made it sound like the whole season. He's going to take the best, you know, he's going to take another job. He's going to end up going to San Diego

or he's going to go somewhere else, Indianapolis. Hey, guess what? No one else in the NFL particularly wanted him. His contract wasn't even running out this year. He had another year left, I think, through 2017, and suddenly he gets a five-year extension. He's hustling. His agent's doing a good job, but I don't get it.

The other part of this, too, is that they said that he was carrying around the extension in his briefcase and he's ready to sign it. One, he has a briefcase. And two, he's just carrying it around, telling people that he has it on him, but he hasn't signed it yet. So he's just like, oh, here it is right here in my old briefcase. Does that always end poorly, though, when you have a contract, whether it's like a TV show or a movie, it's like, I'm going to sign this contract. It's just a matter of time before I sign it. something terrible happens and you never signed the contract.

Forboding. Isn't this just an example of there's a leadership vacuum with this organization? So they're just going to keep pushing things along? I mean, who's there to make decisions on Sean Payton's future? Well, Sean Payton's basically running the team, isn't he? It seems that way. It seems like the two of them, him and Breeze, have so much power together and apart. Breeze gets people traded.

Well, the ownership situation. He would never say that, though. Oh, Jimmy Graham. I could have no. Kenny Stills is my best. What? My word. How could they be leaving the organization?

I wish you weren't a liar. Oh, I got the vapors. You mean, you've got Mickey Loomis, who's essentially on one side of the business side, really, and he's helping to run the Hornets. You've got a... Pelican. Yeah, that's right, the Pelicans.

And you've got the Tom Benson situation, which is, you know, they're battling... That's Southern Noir. Legal battles against members of their own family that are trying to rest the company away. You've got his wife, who I would guess is very active in terms of making these decisions at this point, who doesn't have a lot of experience with it. And you're right. And I think it's kind of like Tom Coughlin was doing better relatively in New York than Sean Payton's been doing in New Orleans recently.

This is a talent poor roster. And it has won a Super Bowl more recently. Who outside of Drew Brees and Cam Jordan would you consider like an above average starter on this roster? No, that's a great question. That's hard. It's a talent poor roster. I actually think he does a good job. He's a good coach.

I think he's coming into part of his career where he reminds me a little bit of Mike Shanahan, where he's a great play caller. He maximizes the offensive talent that he has, but he has too much power in that he's running a whole organization. Here's the thing, too, with the Saints, is that, you know, when I wrote those pain rings last year. If they never would have won that Super Bowl, they would have been on the pain ring.

This was a famously poor organization when it came to success. So the fact that they won that title, I mean, it's organization to organization things are different with the Giants. They had had multiple titles in their past. But when the Saints want a title, maybe he has something close in NFL terms to a lifetime pass with that franchise because that title meant that much to the organization.

It's the same ownership. Plus the defense was one of the biggest issues for them last year. So, I mean, part of that, yes, is on him, but they also need to turn that around. I think it's on him more than anyone because he's been running that team for 10 years and they've never been able to solve that. We've talked about this before. They did have a prolonged period of success. I mean, so you do have to give it that they're dropping 13 wins, 11 wins, 13 wins.

But three out of four years, they've won seven games. So they actually have as many seven and nine seasons West. since 2012 as the St. Louis Rams. Wow. Right, but they're not trying to go seven. L.A. Rams. That's right. Well, the St. Louis Rams, yeah,

we're the ones that got the 7-9. L.A. Rams are going to be going to the Super Bowl. I don't think the Saints goal is 7 and 9, like the Rams goal. We'll get back to the Rams at a second. However, let's first talk about what's going on in Casey. Some bad news surrounding Justin Houston, their gifted pass rusher, had surgery on his knee in February to repair his ACL,

and their team's chief trainer, Rick Buckholder, said that it was not a torn ACL, so it's not your customary, you know, torn ACL, big-time surgery. But it is significant in the sense that it should sideline Houston six to 12 months. And if you do the math on six to 12 months, that means on the best case scenario, he could be back by the start of the season, but could miss a couple weeks. Worst case scenario, he can miss the whole year. this is a new category of injury for me as far as following the NFL because you can have your ACL torn you can have your ACL frayed in this case you have your ACL just simply not functioning is what they're saying it doesn't sound good you want it to function it's not they're not saying it's torn afraid it's just not functioning it was worse I know Dr James Andrews I feel like he I'm not I'm not familiar with him I've never heard of him before this guy must be new on the scene no but this was I guess one of the reasons why they

they kind of rushed to resign Tamba Ali because just as like an insurance policy because he had his own knee issues too last year and he's sort of winding down. But that would be a huge blow for them. It made such a difference when he was not in the lineup for them. And I thought they've had a really nice offseason keeping their defense intact for relatively little money. And now you lose the best player by far on your defense and really the best player on your team because Jamal Charles hasn't been healthy.

And I think it is more worried. him almost than a torn ACL because it's unknown. I mean, if you listen to the ESPN reports on it, I think there's serious questions that he could miss a good chunk of the season, or the whole thing, who knows? I think he's been the best edge rusher in the NFL for the past three or four years. I mean, on balance, yeah. He's been better than Von Miller.

And he gets paid like it, too. I mean, he, other than JJ Watt, I believe he's basically the second highest paid defensive player in football. So, again, you know, we don't talk about Justin Hughes. Houston a ton, but it's a brutal blow for this team. You're not allowed. We talk about it. I got a memo that you can, if you want to talk about franchise tags, you can only mention

Des Bryant. It's all you can show on TV. You can't write about Justin Houston. It always has to be Des every time. Wes working out demons from a year ago's news cycle. I forgot about that. Justin doesn't even exist. It's got to do.

But if Des sneezes or yells at somebody in a locker room, lead story. You know, you're jenksing it because I think I haven't heard about Des in a few months. And if we say his name, he'll be leading the newscast soon. Newscast, oh, news, very official.

Big news, big news, guys. Hard Knocks, season 11. We know the team. And if there would be a favorite, if there was a way to handicap such things, the Rams would have been up there because of the Los Angeles move. And guess what?

It is the Los Angeles Rams. They will be the Hard Knocks team. The series will air, beginning August 9th. The LA Times had the first report on this. And Greg, you wrote things that you're excited about piece on the NFL.com site. So why don't you get into it a little bit? What are you excited about about the upcoming season or hard knocks?

Well, first of all, you know, some people on Twitter are wondering why am I stepping in on your territory. Dan was out sick and we knew this news was coming early. The timing, what painful time. In the morning. And, hey, someone's got a step. step up to the plate. I can't fill Dan's shoes, but I've been a Hard Knocks fan since it started. I love this show. And I think this will be great because, look, their training camp's going to be in Irvine down in Orange County, but they do a lot of, especially that first episode of the summer before

training camp even starts. And I just think a team moving cities is something we've certainly never seen on Hard Knocks and adds a totally different element. They're very good at capturing the family aspect and that NFL life is a transitory transitional existence and what could be more like that than the entire organization has to get up, move over to the West Coast. So I just think that'll add some interesting scenes to the year. I'm actually happy that you got to write it, Greg, because you are, I love the show and everybody knows that because I talk about it all time, but you are a huge fan, as you said. So, I mean, the one thing I will say, if you want to say criticism about Hard Knocks is that it's been around long enough.

now where there's a formula to it and there's different beats that it seems every season kind of hits. So that's why yeah, adding something new has to send it down a different road. So it'll be interesting seeing how they cover that move and the transition and the inevitable Snoop Dog sighting.

Oh, yeah. I really hope we get to see the moving trucks and things like that because I feel like whenever I think about teams moving, it's like under the cover of darkness. I see the big Mayflower truck with the Colts when they left. And I just think that with the ramps, The thing that I like about it the most is I don't have really high expectations for this. I'm not really expecting a lot.

And I think that that's what's going to make it really good because without fail every year, Hard Knocks makes training camp exciting. And training camp for everybody who's attended or covered it, it's like the worst. Why wouldn't you have high expectations? Hard Knox is always delivers. No, that's what I mean. But you think about the Texans I wasn't excited for either. And it was a good one.

Yeah. Exactly. And you're like, oh, wow, look at this. Bill O'Brien. He has such a personality. He's cursing all over the place, and it's great. But I think that the Rams, it's going to get me excited about the Rams. And I need something to be excited about the Rams.

Not even just St. Louis to L.A. They're going to have many camps in offseason practices in Oxnard, north of Los Angeles, where the Cowboys work out, then training camps south of Los Angeles and UC Irvine. Oh, wow. And then during the season in Thousand Oaks. Those are the plans. It's not set in stone, but they're going to be moving all over the place. Wow. And that's one of the things that surprised me the most about L.A. when I moved here

because it's so, it's huge. It's sprawling. You can't, it's not walkable. Nothing is close and there's so much traffic. It's not even driving to see the logistics of it all. What's going on over there? Well, we're getting update. They're laughing. They're writing notes back and forth. No, you guys are very distracting. Over on this side, there was some production elements, West, going on. We were trying to figure out when Mark was available. He's going to be available after a part-knacks. You know, Greg has the Charlie Scratch when he writes. So he wrote on my paper, tell me if you would understand what this meant next to on our notes, like when we would talk to Mark, do it now after. I said, do it now after.

And then I looked at you like, wait, I thought you were writing, do it now? And I was like, okay, that makes sense. Yeah. And then you wrote after. Well, then I was like, wait, do you want me to circle one? Am I choosing? So then you wrote hard knocks. Yeah.

And then I was able to piece it together. The boss, not being very clear, setting you up maybe. Surprising to go with the symbols Just like a Nike sign An ad symbol There was a shadowy league figure That came up to me Downstairs

This is going back to Hardnocks Okay That's it Oh this is going to be a bad season Who cares what stars do they have And then what I said to him was What? This is the thing

This is kind of like Common refrain Is he a shadowy league figure? Yeah, why not? All right This is a common refrain That if there isn't Like all these big stars

Will be bad season The whole thing with Hard Knox is it's all about the personalities. And what makes the season is, first of all, you do need a coach that's charismatic, but you can never assume whether one is or not Bill O'Brien being a perfect example. I think Fish will be interesting. I think he will as well. And also it comes down to the guys like Chris Polk last year, those type of guys. Charles James.

Tyler Star, the Falcon season. Guys that you would never even think of or even know who they were, and they may make the show. So don't get too caught up. Greg Williams will be good, too. Greg, I'm interested to see how heavily featured Greg Williams is because he's definitely the biggest personality I can think of. And he gets that defense playing in a certain way,

but this is only four years removed from the NFL suspending him for an entire season for his methods of aggressive coaching. This is NFL films taping it. Normally, I think they would love Greg Williams eat it up, and I think they will ultimately, but that's a good watch. Oh, really excited. Can't wait. Case Keatim, too.

I mean, Case Catam's going to be a super star. It's always good to have a star quarterback whenever they're intriguing human beings. However, whenever there's a coaching staff, we see this on Hard Knocks a lot, trying to talk itself into two crappy quarterbacks. We saw it last summer it was. It's always fun. That'll be the title of one of the Hard Knocks episodes, making a case for case. A lot of less need hair shots if you get behind the scenes there.

Less is more. I didn't mention it in the. Oh, my God, you guys. I didn't just workshop headlines so the hard knock recap for the rest of today's show I didn't mention it in the post but you know maybe maybe the first couple of of hard knocks this year will be less need in former NFL network anchor Kara Henderson's need I mean one of the hosts of total access for years yes she's married to the general manager that that seems like fun let's get her on the show let's yeah can't wait for that

Greg, I think you're more excited about that. Really oversold that one. Same. All right, now it's time to do it now after Hard Knocks. That's a segment, Rick Hall. And to do that, we've got to speak with Mark Sessler, who is at an airport. Which airport is at Mark? I'm at the Miami Airport, and I've just been physically moved out of the way

two seconds ago by two U.S. Customs agents, so this needs to be rather brief but uh this is the closest airport i've ever seen lax in terms of chaos and what you just texted hey can we do it now so i thought we'd call you up right now let's do it what is the scene uh just you know since you're on the scene uh those terrorist attacks of uh yesterday is it increased security at the airport i don't have a full read on that i'm just through security on people they're just lounging and reading books i see a guy eating an apple so i don't think There's a lot of paranoia happening. He said it was the worst cab ride ever on the way there.

It's going to be when the NFL finds out how much it costs, too. It's about $160. Whoa. Wow. Good luck getting that reimbursed. Oh, it's going to get reimbursed. Let's not have any questions about that. All right.

So the last time we talked to you, Mark, it was before anything had really happened at the annual meeting. But now everything has happened. It's a different NFL than it was when we woke up two days ago. so let's get into some changes and we'll start with some rules first up touchbacks now you put one in the end zone 25 yard line not the 20 yard line and what's what are you hearing about this mark what was the buzz in and around the facility because it was somewhat controversial when it was announced well I think it's the only thing that I kept hearing and I know that this is a rule that has Greg very fired up based on

what I was listening Greg chat about earlier, but it seems as if some people feel like it would promote safety or not promote safety, that was some of the scuttle, but I don't think it was a rule that brought the house down from where I was. It didn't get a lot of discussion, but

I think it's kind of a game changer. The one thing about this week's rules in general the advertisement, nothing really big happened, but some of the proposals that went through, I think, are quite interesting, especially the double ejection or the ejection one for two personal fouls. I know Ian said that that was a week ago that that was going to pass,

and so that was the foundation of that, but it seemed, honestly, there was people saying that that would be issues to get that through. The people didn't agree with that. And that's a big change. I think that's an interesting, an interesting rule change. I think it's interesting, but I don't know how many times a year that'll happen. No, it's not going to be.

There was no call for it. There was no need for it. Well, they basically are, they're always just reacting to a big story, and they're reacting to the O'Dell Beckham. Whereas the touchbacks, you know, that's happening whatever, more than five times every game, well more than that. And it seems curious to me because, and there's been articles about this already. You know, kickers have gotten so good now.

We're just going to see, I think, a lot of pop-up kicks that they try to, you know, jam it so it lands, you know, between the goal line and the five-yard line. That sounds really hard, by the way. The assumption that they'll be able to. It does, but some teams already do it. Some teams already do that at D. Not on a regular basis. Not on a regular basis, but I think they'll do it more now.

Look, punters are really good at what they do, and they can't even put it between the 10-yard line and the goal line on a consistent basis. I just think it's, I have a feeling it only last one year. It's a temporary reason, and the committee, they are doing it expressly for player safety. They are doing it to reduce kick-offs. I never really understood why they just keep trying to reduce kick-offs over and over. If they hate it so much, just kill it. Well, then you eliminate on sidekicks, and that changes the outcome of exciting close games.

And you are also, Greg, not as much as a traditionalist, it seems, when it comes to sports in general, where you're, which isn't a shot. But, to me, if you take out all that stuff, I would feel like it wasn't the same game anymore. I agree. So I'd rather them search for ways to try to keep the kickoffs involved rather than get rid of it. I think this will have a big impact. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think there's going to be a lot of those high. pooch kick type of things. Because special teams coaches get fired

based on the average starting position the other teams have in terms of field position. So they're going to try to do everything they can to get them inside the 25. The PAT rule is now in the books for good. That came out of the meetings. So obviously they like that. The automatic ejection rule

passed. If you get two on sports, something like conduct fouls in one game, you're out of the game automatically. Over under, how many times that comes into play this season, I will set it at one and a half. Yeah, not going to have it. I'll go over, but only because I think it will be about two or three.

Okay. Go over. There's also now penalty flags if you attempt to call timeout when you don't have one. Outcomes a fact. I like that one. You got to pay attention. You've got to keep track of these things. It's weird that it was bizarre that it wasn't a penalty before.

You know, coaches started just doing this. That feels like an Andy Reid type thing, just like keep calling for timeouts. You don't have them anymore. Mark, give me an in-depth breakdown of the IR boomerang adjustment. This one is actually most interesting, especially for you guys. Okay, Mark, give me an in-depth, nuanced, clear-eyed take on it. Well, now it means, I mean, essentially that you can scan your whole roster of players that are on IR and kind of retroactively assign the boomerang to someone when you know that they're going to be

ready in time versus, you know, having to do it in August. and you're just sort of hoping that their recovery hits on schedule, and that's not always the case. So I think it's just one of these roles that's sensible. IR return made sense to begin with, and they're kind of tweaking it to make it more flexible, and we give teams a little bit more of a purview on what they want to do with those players.

A lot of buzz about the term IR boomerang in Boka. Yeah, you hear it all I like how much said assign the boomerang. There was almost essentially outside of me, I think, including it in one tweet. Zero buzz. Never give up, buddy, because the Gino coaster, nobody thought that would catch on either. Colleen, I don't know how you thought this was fascinating. Let's hear why.

So I lit up about this one. You really did. Listen, though, coaches don't have to be forthright about the seriousness of the injuries. So for you guys, when you're writing all of these posts, there's going to be a lot of things that are vague. And you don't know if guys are going to be out for the season or not because coaches won't necessarily have to say that. they can mask things now. So you, that you're excited about that? No, I think it adds a lot of questions.

When you're wondering how. She's saying exactly, and I think she's right, Patra was the first to grumble about this. Shocker. Patrick grumbles about everything. Right, but he was right on it. He said, this is going to make our jobs annoying because. It's going to be a mess.

Right. And it's not very clear on what these IR players will be, what the deals with them. That is such a Patrick. see it in slack now. I miss the message, but he's like, this is, this is bull's this sucks. I don't understand why they make it, this is going to make it harder for us. It's on his whiteboard now.

His voice got deeper, too. He's got a very deep, masculine voice. No more chop blocks. Everything okay at the airport? Mark. Yeah, there's various sounds that I'm sure annoying to the listener, but yeah. And finally, Mark, before you go, you were at the coach's breakfast, and we can We can also talk a little about the coaching breakfast,

but John Harbaugh told reporters that Trent Richardson, and this is one of my favorite subplots of the summer coming up, unofficially is back. This is the longest courtship for a scrub running back in history of the National Football League. Yeah, well, I think you should be a little concerned, Dan, because outside of the fact that it was the subtext was he's not in shape and we need to get him in shape, you know, that's a total wildcard.

Man, they sound committed to. to this guy. He is going to get at least one carry, one snap, and then you're going to owe me two sandwiches. And it's the Baltimore Ravens of all teams that helps me win this long lasting wager. You're going down. It certainly would be ironic if the Ravens helped you out. But I don't know, it just seems like they almost have like a comically large prop carrot that they're dangling just to keep him fit through the spring and into the summer to maybe get to training camp, maybe sign a contract, and then maybe make it pass a couple rounds of cuts. I still feel good is what I'm saying.

Here's why Dan should be a little concerned. The Ravens have a history because of their general manager of helping Alabama players back into the league. Rolando McLean, they took a flyer on him twice because Ozzie Newsom has that Alabama connection. And John Harbaugh also said hopefully no one will come in and swoop him away from us. Oh, yeah. Can I offer a counter also? You know, they like to help out Alabama players who can play.

football that's a fair point i'm okay you know no offense tea rich former first round pick all right mark anything else how who are who is your favorite people at the two coaches breakfast if people are if people are familiar that's a whole hours worth of uh of you know time you have with any coach you want back to back days you have the a fc one day the nfc the next i felt like what happened both days was that the people that you think that you'd want to sit down next to and it would be the most interesting were because Ariens was an absolute star this morning. He showed up 20 minutes early. A lot of his coaches, you know, they're hung over. They don't even do this thing. They roll in, you know, with their PR person, pulling them by the neck.

But Aryans rolled in 20 minutes early, sat right down with a huge plate of food and just started talking to people at the table. And I luckily was, I picked him first. He was great, very informative. I thought Mike Tomlin was fascinating from the AFC side. You know, he's not always, I don't I think loved these breakfasts, but he seemed to really be into it this time, and he was just shooting from the hip. And so, you know, it was excellent access. After a week that is really tough for access, it's really, you feel like you're bothering these guys to ask them the one question while they're on vacation with their wife and kids. It's just, it's an awful feeling. I love that Mark sung up on that.

What? You bring up the wife and kids aspect more than any journal in the business. I'll tell you, it's definitely you feel intrusive, and it's not a great feeling. It's part of their job, though. The breakfast is great. Another question, or maybe if anybody else has one, shoot. But were you, by any chance, was it one of your recorders that Bill Belichick pushed away like a thug during his breakfast availability?

No, I didn't get close to Belichick. I think I was sort of watching from afar. And it was actually, I think, one of the larger, someone tried to stick one of those big television microphones. It wasn't bad. No, it wasn't right in his face. Come on. I didn't answer to that, Greg. I don't even know what you're talking about.

I think he was annoyed by the fact that he was just swarmed by human beings. He didn't want to be there, and I thought it was funny what he did. Mark, did you eat breakfast? I know you're not big on food. Oh, man, you can't eat. They call it a breakfast, but all you do is you grab, you know, a scrap of food after you've done your work. You can't, you know, maybe a beat writer who wants to sit with the same coach for an hour can sit down with, like, a big plate of eggs.

and whatever else they're serving. But you're going from table to table. The last thing that you want to do strategically is sit down and start plowing through like a 40-minute breakfast. I mean, otherwise, why send that person there? Well, Mark, also doesn't like food, so that's a factor. That's accurate. Mark, was it your idea to do the post on 10 different head coaches?

You asked what they would be doing if they weren't football coaches. I thought that was a very interesting read. Well, thank you. I just came up with it kind of on the way because I, with, The NSC breakfast so late in the week there just wasn't a lot of hot take breaking news

to come, it didn't seem like, and so it was an easy way to kind of ask one question of even some of the less interesting coaches and then move on, and I didn't know if it would come together or not and, you know, I think these are interesting guys, but I thought most of them said they wanted to do like construction workers

or like duty. It was, like they're big huge dudes. You forget that these, like Doug Peterson is just giant. They're just giant people. And it makes sense. If they weren't a coach, they'd be, you know, like cutting down trees or, like, breaking down walls. That makes a little sense, too, like, if they would go something they think they'd be good at, but also not a ton of, like, responsibility beyond themselves and maybe their family. It's probably stressful being a head coach.

It makes sense. Yeah. I mean, they, you know, they're paid well enough to, you know, deal with the stress until they get canned. But I, most of them seem happy in March. We'll find out where they are in September. All right. Check out that piece that Mark Sessler wrote. A lot of pieces that Mark Sessler wrote.

yeoman's work, and now he has to come back to us. So sorry about that, Mark. But good job in Boca Raton, and we'll see you on the other side. All right. I love you guys. Bye. Love you too, buddy. Let's move on.

Tyrod Taylor, his agent, is wondering why the Buffalo Bills are not reaching out and being aggressive in talks. I mean, the bills have had bad quarterback play for years. But guess what? They seem to be more than willing to let Taylor. to play out the final year of his deal. Here is what the agent said. Adisa Bakari.

It's the Bills' prerogative to do what they want to do as it relates to Tyrod Taylor or any other Bill's player. Fortunately, there are 31 other teams that have watched and will be watching Tyrod. Wes, I don't blame the Bills, right? I mean, he had a nice season, but it got beat up a little bit. It wasn't like he blew the doors off the league. Why not wait it out?

There's a lot to unpack here. I think one of the things that stands out, The bills have placed a higher priority on extending Stefan Gilmore, a cornerback than Tyrod Taylor. And like you said, you've got a six-foot-one slightly built, scrambling quarterback with a high sack rate. He's an injury risk. He lost time to an MCL sprain last year. And during that time, one source on the bills told Rapsheet, E.J. Manuel has a chance to make this a quarterback battle. Oh, my God.

And we're talking about E.J. Manuel. So to me, that's really reflective of what they think of Tyrod Taylor right now. they want him. One big question they have about him is he never uses the middle of the field. He's a scrambling quarterback who goes down the field and to the sidelines, but the whole area in the middle of the field, a lot of times where Sammy Watkins is running

slants and crossing routes, Tyrod Taylor doesn't see him. That's like the opposite of what you find most quarterback's weaknesses are usually a limited quarterback like a Mark Sanchez, for instance. He's great going up the seams, not so much to the outside. I love Tyrod Taylor, but he's in a bad spot

here. He is under contract for $1 million this year. It is, it is, you do have to question like the fairness of it and maybe they can come up with some sort of solution where he gets a bump this year and they don't really think about a long-term extension or they come up with something where it's got an option and then his salary goes way up because it's a little crazy to be a 16 game starter type of guy and get paid one, one million at this point when you're, when you're a veteran. I mean, you can understand why I'd be upset and yet he doesn't.

really have anything you can do he's not going to hold out yeah and Doug waley i mean he's been pretty open about the fact that they're keeping it a possibility that they would maybe draft a quarterback if that came about if they liked the options that were there but i mean you see that he's not tied to him at all and here's the thing like if you're i understand if you're the agent you're trying to get your guy paid you're trying to get paid yourself but if if tarotell is as good as the agent seems to think he is he has another big year this year he's going to get all the money in the world next year, whether it's from the bills or the other team of the franchise tag. Well, that's easy for us to say that he's ultimately doing a job that he didn't get signed

for, that he didn't get hired for. He got hired to essentially be a number two or three quarterback. What are you to hold out because you had one decent year? No, but you push as hard as you can to get more money this year. I know some other people who were hired to do jobs they're not paid for. And yet, and yet we're coming down on that he shouldn't do it. there it is folks we should get like a right my whole point was

was trying to set that up but no one to go over everyone's head no I got it yeah yeah like a dinger for a west salary gripe it's good in other news Aaron Rogers was on Pete Holmes is one of my favorite

comedians in the world do you know his material at all? Yeah not so much as a stand-up but I do remember he had his late night show and I've listened to his podcast the once or twice. Yes, Pete Holmes has a podcast called You Made It Weird, where he has a lot of in-depth interviews with celebrities

and every once in a while an athlete, professional athlete. Aaron Rogers was on the show that came out this week, a two-hour sit-down with Rogers. Wow. And within the first 10 minutes of their conversation, Aaron Rogers dipped into a deep dive. I wish this is a perfect Sessler story. I wish he was here for this.

but a deep dive on a UFO sighting in New Jersey, in 2005. He likened it to Independence Day with the flying saucer or the spaceship coming in like a ball of fire almost through the clouds, moving left to right, a large orange object, and then fighter jets scrambling. And this is an exact quote, and Brandon, I'm sorry, but I'm just reading a quote, buddy. And then it goes out of sight and we look at each other and go, what in the fuck? is that. Now, I want everyone to know he was on a comedian's podcast. However, this was, he said it with a totally straight tone and this is something he believes happened. Are you guys believers? Is my question in UFOs. West, we'll start with you. I have actually sent Greg a long

text about something similar to this before. UFO is a broad term, unidentified flying object. If I was convinced I saw an alien spacecraft from another planet, I think my world would tip over I couldn't hang on. Football wouldn't mean anything to me. I'd probably end up being a homeless person. I don't think I could, I would question everything. Like football would not be meaningful to me at all. It would be a real trip to find out for sure.

I know exactly what you're saying. All of a sudden things wouldn't be so important. But the answer, Wes, is no, you're saying. Just because you can't imagine a world where it's yes. No, I can't imagine it. I tend to be, I'm a skeptical person by nature. and I don't really think that people are that smart. So I tend to believe that most UFO sightings are bogus.

So I have a story. Colleen's got a story. All right. My dad saw a UFO. Old man wolf. And he swears by it. He was in the Air Force at the time. He was in the middle of nowhere in South Dakota.

And he's an air traffic controller. So they know the airspace. And this was during Vietnam. And he has the radar in front of him. And he said it was him and one other guy in the air. the tower and they both saw it and he said it was like a bright light and it moved from one spot to the next to the next and then it was gone and he said they both looked at each other and my dad was like did you just see that and the other guy was like i saw nothing because obviously they would go

to vietnam if they reported anything he swears to this day it was a ufo about the the logic being if they reported it yeah to their superior superior they would be disciplined for being they would Jackals? Yeah, they would be sent to NAM. That's heavy. So, yeah. I believe because he tells the story so convincingly, and I don't think it's a story,

I think it's real, I think it happened. Greg. No, I don't believe in any of this stuff. That's the most predictable answer on this segment, by the way. Well, of course. Who cares, isn't it?

It's not who cares. There's a lot of, people believe a lot of things. Like chupacabras. Like there's a million things that people try to come up with explanations where there is no explanation that just because you can't come up with an explanation you come up with you know UFOs one of the things i think that is the probably the most curious about UFO things is like they're all very similar a lot of it is very similar types

of stories which are the same stories that we've seen on tv like bright lights and a flash and things like that it's like leading the witness and if i i tend to think if there was anything like this happening out there it would be in a realm that wouldn't be so easily under understood and copied by everything every person. Also, you put the normal and paranormal. I think that there are certainly thousands of people

that claim to have seen don't feel bad about saying that my dad's a liar, Dan. I'm not saying he's a liar. I'm just kidding. Maybe he's right. But you're asking me to come down one side or the other. I also, and by the way, West still hasn't answered.

I think, so we're getting back to you, Chris. I think it's naive to think that we are the only like a high level species in the universe so i think yes there's something out there and i think when i was a kid i me and my cousins thought we would see UFOs every other month but that was because you wanted to see it it was like really a lightning bug or something all right west a believer yes or no is there life beyond this realm i think you're right that it it's it's foolish to think that we're the only intelligent beings out there and my thing is why would they be in a spacecraft just because human minds thought up this

thing right why couldn't they be traveling in their own beings right i mean i don't my spacecrafts are a human construction west answer the question do i what what is the question do i believe in intelligent life beyond yes we often text pictures of this to this this appears on text chains a lot yeah aliens and you colin you're perfect to stand in that's true for sessler because we know what his answer would be so 75% of the around the NFL podcast 80 with I think anything is possible, but you're talking very specific sort of UFO sightings. With that. Oh, Brandon, where do you stand?

Oh, I'm solely on team calling, team Dan. Look at that. Yeah, they're out there. I think it has to do. I want to believe. They're listening right now. Shoot. They are listeners of the pod.

Is there a connect? That would be cool. If there's any advertisers in the universe, if there's like a dick sporting goods. On planet Zoltan, please reach out to our advertising department. Zag sporting goods. Other planets, like the aliens planets, always use letters we don't. A lot of X's and Z. Big Z guys.

They're really into that. I think this could be its own podcast. It could be on the theology podcast because I think there's a connection here between my lack of belief in, you know, anything. You're a nihilist. I'm not a nihilist, but I wasn't. raised with any religion so that gives you a different advantage you're not going to kind of think things are possible this is a good topic dan well chosen yeah we are off the rails yeah well you know that's just like uh your opinion man eight o'clock delight roger godell said at the annual

meeting that the patriots despite that beautiful handwritten letter from robert craft they are not getting their first round pickback reg well they can't get the respect back either from a lot of fans of how they've handled this situation. Oh, nice working with you, Greg. Ben McAdoo, we're going to welcome Tom Coughlin into the facility. This, to me, is one of the silliest stories in sometime. Tom, Tommy Boy, come back to us. Ben McAdo is a young man trying to establish himself as the coach of the New York Giants.

Stay out of the facility, even for a couple of years. There's plenty of great gyms in the suburbs of Jersey, I'm sure, Wes. We're going to fire you, but you're welcome to come. Take a hike. If I was Coughlin, I'd tell him to take a hike. I love it. He's just making it awkward. I know. Tred Balke says there's no one called for Colin Kaepernick.

There's no trade even close to happening. Greg, what's going to happen? Nothing. Stays with the 49ers. The hatred is real. He's gone. The Bears signed Josh Hill to an offer sheet. Who's getting excited?

Probably Mark Sessler because he's making the leave article might finally mean something. Jay Cutler, maybe. Ryan Tanna. How much time we got, Brandon? Money. He doesn't know. He just threw his hands off. What was that supposed to mean?

It's a lot. It's tons. Yeah, but when you put two arms up, like a field goal, it's good. What does that mean? That's good. I mean, you got time the other day. Wait, what? Put the chisels down.

What was that? Brandon. I won't lie to you. I have no idea. I exported it over, and it looked like it had tons of room. So you... Sorry, Tandahill. You fooled me into thinking that we had a ton of time.

I fooled myself. Okay. We've talked too much about Ryan Tanahill on this podcast. podcast anyway. That's true. I just want to say Ryan Tanahel. Let me guess. They're going to let him call plays more this year and people believe in him.

Adam Gase has my back. Enough, man. How many Bougie men does Ryan Tana hell need? As many as Sam Bradford. It must have been really bad with Joe Philbin. If he's like this new guy, now I feel comfortable. He never, it seems like they never got over. Well, A, they wouldn't let him call the play.

They didn't have a lot of belief in him. And then B, they tried to draft Derrick Carr. He wanted to draft Derek Carr and they didn't do it. They should have just done it. You know, San Bradford, though, unless I'm being naive, there hasn't been a ton of, like, pop about him throwing people under the bus and things of that nature. Tannehill, it seems like there's a lot of moves, a lot of behind the scenes,

trying to put machinations. Like, this is his fault. This is his fault. This is his fault. Remember Mike Sherman? You're saying he's more of a Machiavailing character than San Bradford. Yeah, I think so. Sherman, Philbin.

Now he's got, who's the, who's Quinn? Quinn. And now maybe Gase is the next guy to fall. Whatever. He's the new Cutler. Ooh. Wow. Sherman was his guy.

Coach killer. Ryan Tannahill, coach killer. Yeah. All right. Before we go, let's talk about it. We'll go cycle back now to the rule changes. Let's share some changes that we would enact that would make the NFL a better place in 2016 and beyond the Wolf Woman. Connie Fox will start with you.

All right. Death to excessive celebration penalty. these. I hate that rule. I know it really doesn't change the outcome of the game, but from an entertainment standpoint, I want that back in. That was one of my favorite things. I mean, when you think about all of the great celebrations, when you think about Chad Johnson picking up a pylon and putting the football, I mean, you think about icky shuffle, even that was a celebration of sorts. I mean, there's so many great things and there's so many creative guys in the league, and it really stinks that they can't celebrate.

Think about how silly this one particular rule that ties into what you're talking about is you get a flag and then the referee turns on his little mic and says excessive celebration 15-yard penalty for dropping to one knee for celebration that is not in celebration of your religion. Like this is the type of stuff that we're talking about. I know. Let the person drop to it. Come on.

Loosin up everybody. And have group celebrations. I'm with you. Let Steve Smith mock people with a rowboat dance. I mean, bring the electric slide. T.O. is signing things. Throwing the mob. When Antonio Brown hug the goal post.

They threw a flag on that? What? That was brilliant. That was awesome. That was great. All right, Wes. That's a good one, Colleen. You know where I'm going with this. Well, this, okay, let's set this up a little bit.

Wes, one of the more vocal figures on Twitter in the NFL sphere when it comes to being angry about the league's inability to not only just get the catcher will right, but to also like do something about it. pretending like there's not a problem. So now Wes is not here to complain about what's going on. He's here to provide a solution. Oh, I thought I could set it up with a bit of a background here. Okay, go ahead.

How were you in your backyard when your father taught you how to catch? The old man. Maybe three, four. The old man say you got to catch the football. If it hits your fingers, Danny, that means you should have caught it. Right. And if it stays in your hands and you possess the ball, you learn at a young age. That's what a catch is.

yes right well the NFL has taught people that that's not what a catch is everything you know about catching an object possessing it it doesn't matter you have to then turn and run no no no no here's the rule catch the ball possess it don't juggle it possess it two feet down you're a catch that's a catch because they're like we're saying there are plays where a guy will catch a ball take two steps get hit have the ball on his person as he goes to the ground then hit the turf and it will pop out and they're ruling an incomplete pass and it's missing the logic of literally what it catches it's undermining the game there are people learning this game they want to grow the game in england in china there are people learning the game in pubs where one guy is trying to bring the game

to his friends and they're like well they just caught the ball and they called it not a catch i'm not going to watch this i don't even want to go down this rabbit hole but you still there's a million I mean, it does sound simple, but on one hand, I do sympathize a little bit with the NFL and the catch. And I think if that, if they took it all back and made it that simple, I think there would be examples of that would be probable. First of all, you have to account for the diving catches. There would be, there would be examples, but everyone would understand the rule. And all this football move and this and that. I mean, I don't care about any of that.

I just want to know what a catch is and isn't. You will have more fumbles. That used to be their primary. concern. Well, that's part of the game. Fumbles happen. They're word now about player safety that more defensive backs will be teeing off on a wide receiver to get him to drop the ball as soon as it hits his hands. To me, undermining the integrity of the game by not knowing what a catch is, not just fans, but players who devote their life to it, coaches devote their life to it, don't know what a

catch is. It's silly to me. All right. I will throw a scenario out there and I'll set it up with the, you know, kind of a scenario it's fourth and 13 around midfield okay a team the team that's leading by three points is on defense we're talking a big upset they they played such a great game how much time is left there's 30 seconds left fourth and 13 from midfield okay they bring a blitzer the blitzer comes at the quarterback great job getting to the quarterback makes the quarterback rush to the throw incomplete pass his arm swipes across gently across the quarterback's face mask out comes the 15 yard penalty instead of the game being over 15 yard penalty first down the team let's say it's the Patriots is in field goal range game totally changed and if you watch the replay there was no real vicious hit to the head it was incidental contact if not you know no contact at all in the referee just missed it because it's so fast I'm not usually a proponent of more replay but I think these and I think this is a rich Eisen and he's pushed this as well for helmet to helmet hit contact for uh

striking a defenseless receiver or a quarterback, let's replay that and make sure we're... Make it reviewable, make it challengeable, and make sure we're not game-changing plays in a game that's moving too fast. We don't have a chance to take a look at it because it's costing teams. Every year it happens on a week-by-week basis. I can think of an example from a couple of years ago, 49ers Saints. I think it was Amad Brooks on Drew Brees late in the game. Drives me nuts.

Does it have to be late in the game? Well, I don't know what if it's the Jets Then then throw it out What if it's Gino Smith as the Jets quarterback then I will not ride the Gino coaster So is it within two minutes Kind of an end of the game situation or anything? I think it's a challengeable play

I agree I agree with everyone's rules so All right so that puts more pressure on you to go forward for four All right, five for five. Let's start with the draft. I want a lottery. You don't make the playoffs. You're not guaranteed to get the number one pick just because you had the worst record. It didn't become the biggest deal in the world,

but what the Bucks did a couple years ago shamelessly losing the game on purpose to get James Winston was travesty. I also think it's an out. How about the suck for luck campaign? Who could forget? Right. They really did suck. And here's the other thing. It's exciting.

It just makes it more fun. They're always looking for ways to get more teams into it. You still have the best chance to have the ping pong balls come up. It's like the NBA if you had the worst record. But you're not guaranteed. And it just mixes it up a little bit more. So are you going to tank like Sam Hinky and the Sixers? No, this is an anti-tanking thing.

But they tank all the time in the NBA. I've seen the Knicks. NBA is a little different structure than the NFL in a lot of ways. So I don't think tanking is a huge, huge problem, but I like the idea of a lottery anyways. They set up this system back in the fifth. 50s to even out as much as possible. But I think today's NFL is different.

It's so evened out with salary cap and everything. You're the number five, you know, maybe you're in the five spot. Maybe you can move all the way up and get your guy. I like that. Think about how excited. And this is why it will probably happen. The NFL network live coverage of ping pong balls and whatever it is. Right.

Like the NFL doesn't want more of that kind of. Yeah. I mean, that would be a huge event. There's five teams that could have the number one thing. And that Bucks thing sticks in my cry. It does me too because I didn't think they needed a lot of until then. But if you look at what the Eagles were offering,

according to some reports, two number one picks, a third round pick, the best offensive player and their best defensive player for the number one pick in the draft. And that's what the bucks were holding on to

because of shenanigans in week 17, way more undermining the NFL than deflategate. Yep. That still seems like too much. I don't believe that. What? What the Eagles were offering?

But that's another story. Yeah. Four for four, Greg, you sure you want to give number five because then you're messing with the perfection angle. This is even two. I haven't even decided either way. How about let's just go for the full money? Eliminate extra points.

Let's just get rid of it. Really? Got the two point conversion or nothing. Here's what I'm going to say with that, Greg. If that's too bold for everyone in the NFL, then I've got my compromise solution, which is just move extra points back another 10 yards. I would go for that.

That has some of the intended effect. So kickers are on the roster to get touchbacks and to kick field goals. Kickers are people too, Greg. It's up to teams how they want to use their roster. Kickers used to be quarterbacks when kicking, you know, if we're so worried about the tradition of football, you know, kickers wasn't even its own position back in the day. Interesting subject.

I'm on board. All right. You got me. Two point conversions are better. It's a football. It's a more exciting football. Think of the Russell Wilson to the Wilson play. Come on now.

I think I came around to the extra point being. move back a little bit and if you move it back further than the kicker is even a bigger part of the game how about we get rid of the half measure and make the two-point conversion closer oh make a one yard line well two yard line I think that's a good spot that's about a 50% and really dare these coaches to pass up that percentage play

I don't know but it's all right I think that's a workshop one I'm all for it I'm in all right Colleen are you in on Greg's second. No one's buying tickets to watch extra points. It's drastic. It's a little, I don't know, I got to think about it. You sold me on the fact that kickers weren't always kickers.

They weren't always specialist. Who says they have to be special? You can use your roster however you want. Plus kickoffs are important. Paul Horning was a kicker? Gino Capoletti. Hey, oh, Gino. Capoletti.

Who isn't signing up for more two-point conversions? I know, it's true. I could be convinced. Well, Colleen, you've done it again. you've come on the show after a brief hiatus and knocked it right out of the park thanks it's been great

and we've all enjoyed your company and we hope that you'll be back again soon I hope so too thanks Dan I give you an 8 out of 10 for today show all right that's fair

what all right 8 and a half out of 10 I'll take it 9.3 there's lots of room to improve here just like the pod solid B I think

The pod went to host CET in your expectation. What's that one? I think it exceeded the B expectation. Maybe. The pregrade was B, and I'm going to give it. I think the UFO discussion put it way over there. That's true. Plus the, the.

Colleen's UFO story, I'm going to have to give you a nine. Oh, look at this. I forgot about your excellent. Let's talk about it some more because I feel like I could get an A out of this. Anything. Eventually. Any old man wolf stories are going to bump you up a half grade. That's right.

Wes has met old man wolf. He is a delightful man. All right. So that's it. We will be back with yet another show tomorrow Thursday. So make sure you check it out. By the way, go on iTunes. Give us the good old grade and, you know, a B easy.

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