NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - NFL Week 2 recap

Episode Date: September 15, 2014

A room full of heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler -- recap every Sunday game from Week 2 in the NFL. Highlights include the Chargers upset against the Seahawks, the Saints falling to 0-2 and the Bears' comeback victory over the 49ers. Plus, find out what RGIII's injury could mean for the Redskins and which player currently looks like the best running back in the NFL.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast is struggling to pick up Ben McAdu's office. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I'm joined by a room filled with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling and Greg Rosenthal. What up, boys. Hey, Dan. Happy Sunday.

Big week two. A lot of craziness. Very strange week two. Yeah, well, great. I'm so happy for week two because that means we're talking about anything else but the lead-up to week two. And what was the roughest week in NFL history, perhaps. But today, Sunday brings games and games bring football talk, and that's good. Brings a lot of injuries, too.

That was kind of a downer. But there were a lot of big upsets. This was, yeah, this was Sunday. I guess we were talking about what was the theme of the day. Unfortunately, injuries. a lot of big-name players. What do we have? We had AJ Green,

AJ Green with a foot, RG3 with an ankle, Noshan Moreno with an elbow, Gerald McCoy. Gerald McCoy with a hand. Jamal Charles. Jamal-Charles with an ankle. Deshaun Jackson.

It was a lot of big names. Eric Decker. And the RG3 one being serious, but we'll get to all that. But the other big takeaway, Mark, you thought of it, so you might as well let it rip. What are you seeing

when you look into the world, the ether? Oh, well, you know, we came into the season looking at three NFC teams in Seattle, Green Bay, and the Saints that, I think, collectively viewed as the true Super Bowl contenders. They're two and four after two weeks. Just put that on top of your 45,000 things you need to know from week to slap it in there. That's how the magic's made. And, you know, the Denver Broncos are widely believed to be an AFC contender,

two and O, but not a dominant two and O. So it's not exactly how everyone has pictured it right. now so far, which I guess we could have predicted. Is there a dominant 2-0 team? Not right now. Well, besides the Buffalo Bills. I think the Panthers have looked really good in both games. You can't fault how they played in either game.

They weren't dominant in either one, though. They were dominant. They beat the Lions 24-7, and they dominated the Bucks for three-quarters. Some nonsense happened in garbage stuff. They were one drop Deshawn Goldson-pix six away from losing that game. That's fair. All right, gentlemen, so why don't we get into it? We'll start with the games as we do every Sunday

and TD behind the glass. How you doing, by the way, buddy? Doing well, doing well. My fantasy team, not so much, but, you know. Hang in there, buddy. Nobody cares. Yeah. I'm more fascinated.

Damasek pointed it out, but now I can't stop thinking about it. You're wearing a short-sleeved red shirt with a hood, which, you know, it's kind of a... It doesn't compute. Yeah. What's that about? Well, it's supposed to be... It's supposed to be... It's supposed to...

I think we learned that TD works out. Yeah. He's got some noticeable arms. Got some guns. Did you hear it? He said peacock? Remember that book? Yes, I do remember that book.

Mystery. I'm going to start calling you mystery. Anyway, let's get into it. Hey, we get some of that primetime music going. Oh, yeah, we do. The old ESPN show. That sounds good. Let's get into it.

So the Seattle Seahawks coming off that big victory over the Green Bay Packers at home, travel down to San Diego. A lot of people figure the Seahawks have a chance to really get out of the gate with a nice winning streak. That's not going to happen because the San Diego. because the San Diego Chargers behind three touchdown receptions by Antonio Gates

who still in the picture kid leads the San Diego Chargers to a big 30 to 21 win at home over the defending champions. Of course the San Diego Chargers are a team of ATL nominee and now they are one in one with a big victory under their belt

and now people can start getting excited about the charges, right? Just make them the team of ATL already. They heard us talking and they wanted to send us The message. This thing was a beautiful game to watch. I implore you all to watch it during the week.

You could just send this game tape right now to Canton and get it ready for whoever's going to be making that speech for Antonio Gates and Philip Rivers after they retire. Because it was the most Philip Rivers, Antonio Gates game possible. Dodge and defenders kind of throwing touch passes from uncomfortable places, Gates making great catches. It was just an awesome performance by the Chargers office. I like the way you put it, by the way, downstairs in the newsroom. I think it was the first Philip Rivers Pass where he kind of just dropped it over the Seattle secondary. It's kind of like old guy golf where they have their own ways of doing things. Philip Rivers has this old guy golf method of passing.

It's kind of like the old guy at the Y. Right. Yeah, exactly. It's got those moves. It's not pretty on the eyes. Larry Bird jersey, just working the post. They beat the Seahawks by throwing on them. That was the game plan to hold onto the ball and they did it for four.

42 minutes, which is outrageous, with a terrible running game. Their rushing attack had less than 3 yards per carry. They didn't run the ball much. It was all those precise, short passes, and Rivers just held the ball. It was just an unbelievable performance by their offense. How does Marshawn Lynch wind up with 36 yards rushing? Is it just a time of possession they never really got into the flow? They never had the ball.

The Seahawks offense, you can't fault them. They actually were more explosive per play than their. the Chargers, it was just the fact that when San Diego got the ball, listen to these first drives, 14 plays, 9, 10 plays, 6 plays, the first four possessions, which basically took up the whole first half, they scored. Two touchdowns, two field goals. It was a great performance by Rivers. What is this I hear about Richard Sherman being exposed? Well, they threw at him, I think the broadcast said four times for 56 yards in the first three quarters or so. He didn't give up any big plays. Some Chargers, you know, players were honking afterwards that we exposed Richard

Sherman. It's not like they were picking on him. He didn't give up huge plays. It's not a terrible day for a cornerback, but he wasn't too happy about that. Chargers got an assist from the weather. 120 degrees on the field. Seahawks were in dark jerseys, and you could see that they were laboring quite a bit. You could, and I just don't think a Pete Carroll team knows what to do when they can't get a running game going like that. It was just they took it. to them, they never really let them get into that flow. Because when they tried to run the ball early, suddenly you're punting, and then the chargers are holding the ball again.

It reminded me a lot of the chargers last year when they played the Broncos, a very similar sort of style. One thing, Mike McCoy, underrated in terms of week to week, depending on who they're dealing with. He comes up with a creative game plan. And I think it's because they're out in San Diego. No one cares about San Diego. Totally under the radar in terms of that.

I'm ready to make them the team of ATL right now. The Seahawks, by the way, couldn't tackle. They're breaking tackles. this Chargers defense is a lot better. Jason Barrett, rookie, playing very well. Greg, very excited about making the Chargers team of ATL right now. Ooh. Yeah.

And you know what? I totally see it as something that could happen. But maybe we should table it for Wednesday show so we can get into it a little bit. And maybe decide then or not. Wes, is that same fair? Yeah, I have some reservations with the Georgia. Okay, so let's table the discussion until Wednesday and we'll get into it a little bit because it is a very special.

honor to be named the team of ATL. We don't rush into anything. Let's move forward. The Buffalo Bills are now 2 and 0, ladies and gentlemen. The Miami Dolphins coming off that great win over the New England Patriots in week one. Go up to Orchard Park, an electric

orchard park, which team just got sold and they're staying in western New York. Jim Kelly's there and people are loving all that. And then they go out and they play like the old bills. CJ Spiller, uh, channeling. his 2012 version, he has a 102-yard kickoff return, also a 40-something-yard run. He was on fire. The defense played great.

The laser show was sidelined for at least a week, a 29-10 win for the Bills. As I said, now 2-0 and leading the AFC East all alone, Mark Sessler. Your thoughts? I don't know. For me, that's a disappointment for Miami. I looked at them and I watched the game tape pretty closely from last week. I thought this was a team that was going to consistently go out and produce on offense.

I guess, you know, Buffalo's never an easy place to go and do what you want to do no matter what's going on with the bills, but they got on track today. E.J. Manuel, a clean game. Yeah, E.J. Manuel is fine. But, yeah, when I think about this game, why did the bills win? It's about defense that the Dolphins' offense

did not even cross midfield until the third quarter. They had 290 yards overall. Ryan Tannenhill, I'm sorry, Greg. I know he's still your boy, potentially. I know that's fading as well. He just is not impressive to me. He misses too many throws, and it doesn't help when that new offensive line is not clicking. It did not look good.

He got sack four times. Kind of looked rattled at times. This was not a great Ryan-Tanahill game. So the entire Miami offense looked bad, but you've got to give credit to the Buffalo defense for scheming to make that happen. The big maybe negative for the Dolphins is we were all kind of excited about Miami's backfield after week one. Now, No Sean Moreno suffered a gruesome elbow injury.

It looks like, according to Rapsheet, he's going to be out. least a month. So he's out of the picture. And then one other takeaway that I had watching the game closely, Sammy Watkins, big coming out party, eight catches, 117 yards, and a touchdown. You know, this guy came into the league ready made to be a Pro Bowl guy and we're already seeing it in week two. Robert Woods, one catch for five yards, Greg. That's not good, but he had that first game. I'm going to focus on that one. It's nice, though, that they have Watkins who can take over a game and they have CJ Spiller, who's not going to be week to week taking over games, but there will be games like this one.

You know, he also had the big run. He had the big kickoff return that he can take over. And they have defensive players that can take over. They have a lot of good individual players. Greg, as a follower of the Patriots, are you mortified and slightly scared to see Buffalo alone at the top of the AFC East? No, I think that's a team. If I could choose one to be a top, I guess that wouldn't be the Patriots.

That would be it. The Panthers won in week one with Derek Anderson and quarterback. They got Cam Newton back in week two in Charlotte and their home opener and it paid off. He threw for 281 yards and a touchdown. Panthers a 24-7 win over the Detroit Lions. Newton had that rib injury with sack four times but stayed through the game. And Carolina is now 2-0 for the first time since 2008, gentlemen. And he was always, he was diving all over the place, looked like he might have hurt himself a couple times.

dove awkwardly. He still hasn't learned out of slide. So I think my idea to make that an event at the Combine is still a good one. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I think it's an excellent idea. I think not enough guys know how to do it. It seemed like the Lions missed a lot of opportunities that they failed to capitalize on today.

Right. In the first half of this game, the Lions should have gotten out to a big lead. They consistently moved the ball. They had 197 yards at halftime, and they didn't have a point. They missed two. field goals. They made mistakes at the end of drives. And the Panthers just have that sort of bend but don't break defense where they tackle so well. They remind you of the Seahawks when they're at home too. They just, they were flying all over the ball. And then once they got into

the second half, Newton settled then had a very good passing day, despite a bunch of drops from Kelvin Benjamin. And the big news before the game was that the Panthers deactivated Pro Bowl defensive end, Greg Hardy, who was involved and convicted in that domestic incident this summer, Ron Rivera said after the game that it was his call, I believe, Greg? He did. There's varying reports, whether it was up to the owner, Jerry Richardson, who's been publicly. He shed tears over this, you know, a fortnight ago. Yeah, right, about domestic violence. And it just makes you wonder if Hardy's going to be back on the field at all this season, because what's going to change? He doesn't have any legal case coming up. It's not until

November. What's going to change next week when it comes to Hardy? And this defense has shown, they're going to be fine with or without them. It's a big loss, but they're going to be fine either way. I think you make a good point with Hardy. And same thing with Adrian Peterson in Minnesota, that it's such a different time in the NFL and things are so black and white. I don't know what happens with these players, because we don't know how these teams want to react. You know, it's such a touchy situation. So the safe move might just to leave these guys out of the game plan, which would have seemed crazy a year ago, but now we're in a new world. It's definitely a different era.

You've got guys who have had domestic violence incidents in the past who are suiting up multiple incidents, and they're suiting up because it happened before Ray Rice. But to get back to the game on this one, I do think we should give the Panthers a lot of credit for coming up with two really good performances in a row. The Lions, I said they moved the ball in the first half. They didn't move the ball in the second half very well. And it's just a team that's so well coached on defense. for them to end up winning, going away with absolutely no running game.

Jonathan Stewart did nothing until he had a 20-yard running garbage time and he still get the win. Moving forward to Cincinnati, where the Bengals lost AJ Green very early in the game with a foot injury. Actually ended up being AJ Green's first game as a pro without having a catch. But it didn't matter because this Cincinnati team, Chris Wesleying, has some balance. The defense did the job messed up, messed with Matt Ryan,

who had a difficult day passing, and the Bengals had a 24-10 victory over the Atlanta Falcons who had that great win over the Saints in week one. The Bengals are now 2-0 for the first time since 2006. We don't know what's going on with A.J. Green, how long it might be out, but things are good in Cincinnati. Should people be excited, Chris Wesleying? Yeah, because it's the regular season.

Oh, you reigning on the parade of the Cincinnati people. What more can they do in the first couple weeks? They can't do anything until the playoffs start. But anyway, why don't you? Take a wrecking ball to Skyline Chili while you're at it. Let them get excited in Cincinnati. They should get excited because it is September. Were you not impressed with them?

No, I was very impressed. And I think we all agreed that Mike Zimmer was one of the best assistant coaches in the NFL over the past decade or so. Right. They haven't missed him one bit. They gave Joe Flacko one of the longest afternoons of his career last week. And they gave Matt Ryan one of the worst days of his career this week. They were, look, Lamar Holmes, the Falcons right tackle, he couldn't block an Oakland Raiders fan on Twitter. Gabe Karimi at left tackle, was he any better?

He was better. He's outplayed Lamar Holmes both weeks. That's not a good time because Matt Ryan was arguably the best quarterback in the league last week. Carlos Dunlap hit Matt Ryan five times. Oh, my gosh. Ryan 24 of 44 for 231 yards and a touchdown. He was sacked twice through three interceptions. Very tough. And I'll say the Falcons, before the season started, which now seems forever ago,

when we all wrote about who were our dark horses. I picked the Falcons, and I felt really good after last Sunday. But now they're one-in-one, and I see that they've given up nearly a thousand yards in defense, totally yards defense over two games. So that could be a major issue, their ability to stop. This feels like a Hugh Jackson game exactly how he'd wanted to go for the Bengals. You've got 23 attempts for Dalton. He's efficient. They run for 170 yards with Bernard and the rookie hill splitting carries. You know, I watched what they did last week against the Ravens, and they're running some Eagles concepts.

They're much more frisky and creative than they were under Gruden. I guess, you know, the Bengals to me always struck me as sort of a boring team, despite their success at home. I can't look at this team and feel as bored as I had been in the past. They seem more efficient on offense and more formidable to me. Geo Bernard's workload came because of A.J. Green's injury, they already had Tyler Eifert and Marvin Jones out. So basically your top three weapons in the passing game are out.

Bernard had nearly double his career high in carries. And he had his career high in total yards too. And he had eight targets last week too. I mean, he had a lot of, they gave him a lot of work and space in week one as well. You better be careful with 32 touches. You can't do that each week or else he's going to be gone too. Cleveland Browns entered action on Sunday with riding a nine game losing streak at home. And here came the Saints.

coming off a bad loss in week one. Looked like a recipe for disaster for Cleveland. But no, Mark Sessler. It was not a recipe for disaster. It was a recipe for tasty goodness. Get out of your chair! Billy Cundiff kicks a 29-yard field goal with three seconds to play. And the Browns are 26-24 winners over the Saints on Sunday.

Everybody really excited. Brian Hoyer making some plays. Johnny Mansell gets in the action, hands the ball off. Everybody's excited about it. Saints had rallied from a third. 13-point deficit to take the lead, but the Browns would not be denied. And the brownies are 1-1, Mark Sessler.

I think the takeaway for me watching this game was what Mike Patton's defense was able to do to Drew Breeze. And you know that you can't do this for four quarters, but they shut him down entirely for the first half. And then Jimmy Graham took over. They had Joe Hayden one-on-one with Jimmy Graham. I think Hayden was on him like a blanket,

but you can't win those one-on-one matchups. 10 for 1-18 and two touchdown. sounds for Jimmy Graham. It really looked like this was a case where the Saints were going to creep back in and just eventually do what you thought they would do and outlast Cleveland. But Hoyer, his second game-winning drive in four starts, that fifth one doesn't really count for them in his career. And he pulled him through. And Mark doesn't like to tooth the horn too often. So I will do it for you, Mark. The Cleveland Brown said Brian Hoyer, who we all kind of agreed as a journeyman type player at quarterback. They have no Josh Gordon. They have no Jordan

and Cameron, and they knock off the Saints at home. So for a team... Your Super Bowl picks. You and Wes. Yeah, a Super Bowl contender, which I still think, even though their own two, they still are a team to be taken very seriously. The Browns deserve a lot of credit for how they've started this season. Even in the loss in week one, now win in week two, they're certified

frisky for me. In other words, enough of the level header analysis, and just party, baby. Mark, not partying. When I look at the box score, the first question that comes to my mind is why, isn't Sean Payton saddling up Mark Ingram as a workhorse?

11 for 83, 7 and a half yards per carry. He looked good, but I don't know. He looked at the Saints history under Peyton, and they always have seemed reluctant to put one backpack there. The other thing that sticks out is 5.9 yards per attempt for Drew Brees.

So I obviously didn't see this game. How does that happen? Well, number one, Carlos Dansby earned his money. he was all over the place they were in that i mean you know paul kruger who was a big disappointment last year played well in week one and he did it again today he seems to be petens we thought it would be jabal sheared it looks like it's it's it's closer to being kruger right now who's just been unleashed in the pass rush they were in breeze face all day long and a nice win for the browns but

yeah let's talk about the saints for one second before we move on we're a lot of people sucked in a little bit about this defense being so great and the saints being different than other years but so far it looks like the same team to me where their mediocre team on the road i expect when they go back home they're going to kick somebody's butt but but is this the same saints team we've been seeing the last couple years i don't think it's the same team and i think it's easy to overreact to the first two games but i i will concede that they still have road problems and they still have a defense where maybe the maybe the talent on paper isn't producing as it should.

Well, they had never been a good road team under Sean Payton, really, and they could be 2-0 very easily. There's not much difference in both of these games between a win and a loss, but the problem is there are two games behind the Panthers already, and they're, you know, chasing other teams for home field advantage. So 0-and-2, even though I'm fully confident the Saints will bounce back and be one of the top seven or eight teams, that's still a pretty big hole to jump out of already, two games. Definitely, especially when, again, when you think about all.

off-season and pre-season narratives that the Panthers were in trouble and they were going to come back to the pack. Panthers look great. And so the Saints probably, if the Panthers are going to win 10 to 12 games, the Saints got to figure out something to do now. They got to go on a run. You know, it's very early still, but it's not a good situation. Well, and one last thing, Wes and I picked them for the Super Bowl with taking the leap of faith that they would have home field in the playoffs over a team like Seattle too because they're not going to go win a playoff game in Seattle. Oh and two does not bode well for that. I'm not backing off that.

How about your run game, though, before? No, no one's asking you to back off it, but O and two is not an outrageously great start. Are you admitting, would you admit now, West, that Brian Hoyer wasn't the worst idea to start him week one? I know we were all against that, but it seems like the offense is working out okay so far. Didn't he average, like, wasn't he in the Gabbard's zone for this game? He was at five yards per attempt in this game. But at least compared to where Mandel was at in the preseason. They've been competitive, so yeah, I mean, that was, they did.

been competitive. That's all you can ask. And since you brought it up, Mansell did get on the field, Mark. What happened? I came on, you know, much Bally Hood rolls in there and hands the ball off. And then he came in a series or two later and threw an incomplete pass. What's the purpose of that? Yeah, that's so weird. I'm not the coach. I don't know. Oh, come on today. You have issues. And Brian Hoyer, because he's salt of the earth, because he's, you know, blue collar to the bone, it's basically a Springsteen song, come to life. He said after the game, I wasn't happy to find out that Mansell was involved in the game plan at all, but I dealt with it.

Yeah, I mean, I think that, as Wesleyan said, they've been productive. They scored 26 points without their best wide receiver, their best tight end, and they're starting running back. Mark, are you happy today? Yes, because I thought, as I said to Wes before the game, I thought this would be a 46 to 3 polishing. I think the Browns are a legit option for the team of ATL. Never getting past Wesley.

And so are the Panthers running them back. I would run back to Panthers, bringing the Browns. There's no chance to Browns. Factory of Sadness, more like Factory of Gladness, I just came up with that. Let's move forward. Idiot. So the Minnesota Vikings did not have Adrian Peterson for their home opener in the outdoors conditions in Minneapolis. They probably could have used them.

They got trounced by the New England Patriots and Tom Brady. Matt Castle did not show up against his good buddy through four interceptions. Chandler Jones made one of the more athletic plays you'll see. blocking a field goal, scooping it up, and then running it in. That basically iced the game before the half. Tom Brady really did nothing for the second straight week. 15 of 22 for 142 yards and a touchdown, but he didn't need to. The Patriots took care of business against an underman Minnesota team.

Patriots got all the breaks. Greg Gross and thought, congratulations. Hope you're proud of your sake. I hate it when people say congratulations to other fans around this office, as if they did anything to contribute to the win. Whatever. I don't take it personally when they lose. It's not my fault.

It's all just a vicarious journey. That's life in a way. I don't know. I didn't know how to feel about this game for a while because you're just so used to as a Patriots fan watching the offense be explosive and move up and down the field. And I just don't think that's this offense right now. They're a station-to-station offense without explosive players.

Gruncowski's not the same. But they also showed today that they could be a team where the playmakers on defense carry the way. All the big playmakers are on defense. Chandler Jones was incredible, a couple sacks, beautiful, you know, field goal block. Dante Hightower is now playing a rush linebacker position, sometimes defensive end, putting his hand on the ground,

had a couple sacks today. Jared Mayo had a nice game. Logan Ryan locked down Cordarelle Patterson for a lot of the day. Derell Revis had a really nice day. So all their best players, I think, are on defense. Hand in the dirt. If you want the football experts to take you seriously, you said hand on the grass.

They like to say dirt, because that makes it pure football. It's only dirt if they're playing at the Raiders Stadium. I'm curious. I don't take much from this game, to be honest with you. I'm curious about Rob Grong. Because, you know, the Vikings basically had their soul ripped out this week, and now they're trying to figure out they're scrambling with Matt Castle. Get Teddy Bridgewater in there now.

They rolled right down the field on the opening drive when 80 yards for a touchdown. At first, it looked like it'd be competitive. Were you concerned when Matt Asiata rumbled in with a 25-yard touchdown reception? I wasn't getting excited about that. But my question was Grunk. I mean, is this a situation? where you think Gronk is going to be limited for the season? Like, what are you seeing when you watch him?

Because he wasn't explosive, all, didn't have a catch in the first half, didn't do much in this game. I can tell you what Greg's seen, because he facetiously compared Gronk to Jake Ballard in the newsroom. Well, my point was all he's doing is running out and catching eight-yard passes. It's a good point because Gronk has been their lone deep threat. Right. He's the guy that goes 20, 25 yards down the field. He's not doing that now. Edelman has six catches for eight straight games, the longest streak in the league.

But it's not a great sign that he's their most consistent weapon. They need more than that. Grunk, I think, was on the field less this week than he was last week, which is not a good sign. That's interesting. Bills are in first place, moving forward. The giant stink. Oh, my God, the giant stink. I watch this game closely.

They had a 14-13 league. Drew Stanton and the Arizona Cardinals, Carson Palmer, a late scratch due to a nerve issue. basically handing the Giants and went on a silver platter in their home opener and they just butcher it. 14-13. Victor Cruz drops a pass on a third down with 11 minutes to play.

They punt the ball away. Ted Ginn returns it for a touchdown. ensuing kickoff, the Giants fumble it away. The Cardinals get another field goal. All of a sudden it's 2214. They add another field goal. 2514 Cardinals win after just a meltdown and it's exactly the type of meltdown that A is going to cause Tom Coughlin's head

to explode. And B is what bad teams do. I've seen it for years following the Jets. Even the close games, bad teams do things like this, and that's why they're bad teams. How did Eli play? Better, a lot better. That is the silver lining. It was actually surprised how good he looked. He threw an early interception, and it looked to be same old Eli. But he ended up 26 of 39, 277 yards, two touchdowns really should have been better. The Giants had five drops in the game. And Victor Cruz, who, you know, it's got to be quiet because he, He spoke up this week and said he's got to get me the damn ball, essentially. He pulled a quichon, and then he had that bad drop that I mentioned.

He had a couple other balls that he could have gotten to. This is a situation where he needs to play better because there's not a lot around them. He's got to be a star. How about Drew Stanton getting a win on the road? Drew Stanton didn't do much. Drew Stanton, the best thing Drew did was get out of the way, let Andre Ellington do some work, who looks very good despite that foot injury. He looked quick, look fast, and basically all the Cardinals did was,

not mess up and let the Giants do what this Giants team was going to do, which is blow the game. So Cardinal is very lucky to get out with the W, but that's what happens. I'm not sure how long the Ben McAdoo experience lasts in New York if the Giants go 3 and 13 and Tom Coughlin is ripped out of Gotham. If they don't have a winning record, Tom Coughlin is going to retire. And then Ben McAdoo will be gone. I mean, I don't think there's that much doubt.

There's no way Coughlin could be there next year. if they have a losing record. It feels like a really neat breaking point, breakoff point after this season because it does seem like the Giants are going to lose 11 or 12 games. Well, unless you're Ben McAdoo who moved the entire family across the country. This has a different feel of other Giants teams. It does, because I know they started poorly last year, too.

Right. Well, they only won seven games in the end. Right. But this team, it just a terrible Monday performance, and they played awfully in the preseason, and they don't have Odell Beckham in the mix. And now that's a bad loss at home. I don't know.

Things do not look good in the middle ends with the Giants. Bill Barmwell wrote an article three years ago outlining at the time, at least half a dozen times, the Giants had quit under Tom Coughlin. Right. He is a Giants backer. And that's why I wouldn't give up on this team, even at 0 and 2. Bad division.

But I think the Cardinals deserve some credit. Bruce Ariens, he can coach my team anytime. He's a good coach. I mean, he's maxing them out. We say bad teams find ways to lose. They've just managed an early part of the schedule where they're home to San Diego. They're in New York. They come out of that 2-0 with Carson Power missing a game.

That's pretty impressive. Having watched both those games, I will say that they're 2-0, but they're not 2-0 because they've had an amazing start to the season either. A couple things could have changed. I could be 0, too. But, you know, that's how football works. Well, sometimes you fake it until you make it. They're like the anti-Saints.

One thing to point out to Patrick Peterson had a bit of a rough game there. He did. Yeah, he did. He actually got... Eli was not afraid to go at him. They got one touchdown on a beautiful Ruben Randall catch. And then Victor Cruz, to Cruz's credit, he blew by Peterson, who grabbed him in the end zone for a pass interference. So not Patrick Peterson's best game.

How about Callais Campbell? I got to watch this. Ten tackles, three tackles for loss and a sack. Get that guy in the Pro Bowl for once, please. Absolutely. That is called Active. Oh, Cleas Campbell was active. That's what people say.

Fingers in the dirt, active, all words. Dan's football gloves. I like to put my two palms in the grass. What did you do, swallow a dictionary before the game? Get buzzy, guys. Here we go. The Dallas Cowboys, who we all assume are not going to be a playoff team, and they probably still won't be,

but they had a nice win today in Nashville. DeMarco Murray ran for 169 yards and a touchdown. They got four field goals from Dan Bailey. Tony Romo, after last week's terrible game against the Niners was effective, 19 of 29 for 176 yards in a touch. and the Cowboys get to one-in-one, and the Titans, that's a tough loss at home. That's how you open your season at home with a loss to middling Cowboys team. I don't think the Titans are very good, and I think they got exposed today.

Jake Locker had a 7.6 passer rating at halftime against the Dallas defense that everyone thought was going to be the worst in the NFL. The Cowboys, they look like to have a defense running game going in this game, at least anyway. DeMarco Murray looks as good as any running back in the NFL, and really has since last season. He looks phenomenal. And he's behind a good offensive line, too. The offensive line is really good in the running game and has been worked over in pass protection.

Wes, something jumps out to me at the box score. Maybe you could shed some light on it. Sean Green and McCluster combined for nine carries for 70 yards. How come they only had nine carries if they were running the ball that well? I'm not sure Sean Green got a single rush after halftime. They were down, obviously, and they decided to pass. basically Sean Green came out of the lineup.

I want to just throw it out there that this Cowboys defense might not be the worst defense in the league. We all thought it because they were bad last year and they had a bad off season. But when I watched them last week against San Francisco, I didn't think they were that bad. I thought they were a below average defense. But maybe they got something in Rolanda McLean here.

Or maybe the Titans just aren't very good. That's fair. How about two weeks? Two weeks in the season, Rolanda McLean is your. your comeback player of the year in the NFL? He had another, I think he led the team in tackles today, had a sack, had an interception that might have been the play of the day as far as circus kind of catch.

He looked really good. You know who probably won't be the comeback player of the year of Chris Wesleying, Robert Griffin III? Well, I don't think there's any probable about that transition. The Washington Redskins quarterback went out with a dislocated ankle in Sunday's 4110 win over the Jaguars. he's out for a while, you would assume. He gets carted off with the injury.

Kirk Cousin comes in and is on fire initially anyway. Finished 22 of 33, 250 yards and two touchdowns. Redskins, as I said, with a blowout victory over Jaguars team, which perhaps stinks. Maybe they weren't. We thought maybe they'd be better this year, at least with this current quarterback in the lineup, Blaine Gabbard, excuse me, Chad Hennie. Not that different. They don't blame.

Exactly. Not your fault. Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe it's time, Mark Sessler, for the Blake Borders era to begin. Well, talk about a bittersweet win for the Redskins because you lose RG3 and Sean Jackson potentially for some period of time, RG3 probably for the year. But then Cousins comes in, completes his first 12, and honestly looks like a better fit for this offense to me than what they were trying to squeeze RG3 into.

Cousins looked fine. To me, he did everything they could have asked him to do, and he showed good chemistry right out of the gate with everyone on the field. The Jaguars, they are a mess, but I'm not sure putting Bortles in really changes things because the problem is their offensive line. Two games in a row, an absolute disaster.

You know, Henny is not, he's no fireball. We don't love the guy, but at the same time, there's not a whole lot the quarterbacks can do in that situation. Ten sacks. Wow. Are you going to put your... Ten sacks.

Are you going to put your future franchise quarterback behind that offensive line? I don't think you can. And we had some sandwiches on that. I said that Bortles would be in by week three. I just think they're going to say what you just said, that's a risk. And I mentioned our Dark Horse picks. I had the Falcons. You picked the Jags.

So it sounds like, Mark, you're out for this team actually doing something this year. Well, I base that on. I also had Bortles as the offensive rookie of the year. I loved what I saw in the preseason. I thought they'd be tantalized to put them in sooner than later. But again, when you're getting harassed the way quarterback was today, I think it's a hold and weight on him. Well, let's not bury the lead here.

The Redskins fans got what they wanted. There are some that wanted Kurt Cousins to come in. Really? Really? There was a stock like that. I don't know. There at least was, or Joe Thysman got what he wanted, at least, with Kirk Cousinship. I guess I'm saying, really, is that really going to last long term?

I mean, I don't think so. This is, I mean, this is the problem now. for RG3, and if you're a fan of RG3 or what his potential was or is as Wes, I know you and I feel that way for sure because he was so exciting. Now he's in a bad spot. Let's say he's ready in

six weeks. I don't know, who knows how he's out for the year. Let's say he's able to come back now. By the time people listen to us, I bet Ian Rappaport will have reported he's out for the year. Kirk Cousin gets a full season. And if Kirk Cousins plays well, RG3 no longer gets handed the job back automatically. This might be the injury that

really, really hurts his career in terms of what his future is with the Redskins. It's kind of a bummer because, like, I love watching the guy, but it just seems like he's maybe got a little bit of a curse on him or something. I don't know. It's just sad to watch him get carded off the field, waving sadly to the Redskins fans. It's just a bummer. What do you do if you're the Redskins? Kirk Cousins maybe has, finishes the year 25 touchdowns, 15 interceptions, as Ali

Bompore posed to me. What do you do? I mean, what if he looks like Andy Dalton and Jay Rood offense. Ali Bumpuri works with this, by the way. I don't know if anybody else knows who he is. Yes. Okay. No idea. I think it's such a tough spot. It's, it is a really sad moment. You have to give the job back to RG3 next year because of what are you paid to get him. It's really sad. Unless you could trade cousins with added value after a nice season. Why would you trade cousins knowing RG3's injury

history? I mean, right now we're looking at a guy that was offensive rookie of the year. The best rookie season by any quarterback in NFL history. the year that Andrew Luck was a rookie and Russell Wilson, and then a guy who tore his ACL had a disastrous second year and his third year ends before it even started. I really hope people don't kill Griffin for being lost in the preseason one game. Who knows? He might have strafed the Jaguars today, too. It's not, I mean, he was on his way to, and it's just such a... That's a leap of faith. It's such a bummer, though. T.D. You got a point? Yeah, to that point, to Greg's point there. Al-G3 actually looked electric on that drive. He got hurt, and it was just so

sad to see him stay down and go down for so long. You could tell he was crying. You could tell he was in tears. And as a start, sad to see. But real quick, though, Brian Hoyer, Kirk Cousins, and the other Michigan State quarterback, Drew Stanton, all came out victorious. Wow. So Michigan State QVs all be like.

We can wait. That seemed like a real reach there. But all right, go Spartans. Sparty on. 112 seasons from now that will happen again. Give Groot and some credit, by the way, just because they were with out Deshawn Jackson and Robert Griffin III and Jordan Reed and they just rolled it up. It was like, didn't even matter.

We move forward. Oh, this one's a little jaunty. I don't remember this one from time. Austin Davis came in at quarterback for the Rams and you would think, oh, the Rams are done. They're going to Tampa. They're going to lose to the bucks. Did not work out that way. Greg, the leg hits four field goals, including a 38-yarder with 38 seconds to play.

leading the Rams to a 1917 win over the Bucks a game that had a wild ending where Mike Evans while the Bucks are driving goes down with an injury right inside 10 seconds no timeouts left for the Bucks so the referees blow the play dead 10 second runoff game over

crushing way to lose one of our editors who's a Bucks fan jumped up and screamed in the newsroom to the point where our boss Marvel had to look at him and be like yo bro take it down a notch you're a pro but that's I mean that's a time tough loss for any Bucks fan or the Bucks. So now the Dembe Bucks not looking good after losing to the Rams who stink.

I just like to note that I am over the weekend convinced Dan not to pick up Bobby Rainey in fantasy who rumbled for 144 yards today. So I'm going to take a backseat. I'm actually out of 30 through the air too. So it would be 174. Good job, buddy. But we did pick up that Browns running back, Crowell. Yeah, he had a good game.

Crowell is a deep sleeper, but I failed this week. He's a lot more talented than Bobby Rainey. Yes, he is. That was my premise, but not on the field today. Josh McCown, who had the bad game last week, didn't put any big numbers out there again, 16 to 21, 179 yards. Are we worried about Josh McCown being able to lead this team to anything? He had one of the worst interceptions of the week

after having one of the worst interceptions ever last year. They ran the ball so effectively in this game. He played well for a lot. lot of the game. If they didn't have that crazy ending and kick the field goal to win it, we'd be talking about the throw he made to Mike Evans on that play that would have set up a 50-yard attempt. No gimmie. I don't think McCown was really the problem today, but the fact that they've lost two games at home to start the year, and one of them was to Austin Davis. I mean, that's as bad a start as you could have. That's a crazy rule. Mike Evans goes down with about 15 seconds left

in the clock, and they let it run for seven more seconds before they, I don't know. That didn't sit well Well, it's tricky. It doesn't sit well with me either, but how are they to know that he's unable to play? Basically, it's a weird sort of gray area that he then was saying, like, I can't line up for this next snap. And by the time they actually ran up to the spot to get there, then at that point, there was... I'd like to see a little bit better judgment out of the line crew. I wish you could review that. You can't. I do want to say Austin Davis, like we're making fun of him and the Rams think, he made some really nice throws in this game. I mean, and the throw he made to Austin. Austin Pettis to set up the game-winning field goal was one of the plays of the day. On third down was very clutch. Austin Davis deserves a little love. We will clip. TD, can you clip that and send that to Austin Davis' mother?

And let her know that Greg Rosenthal wanted to make sure. He was extremely fired up on the sidelines post game. Yes, he was Austin Davis. Body language, body language check? A bit too much. Yeah, it was too much swag. His teammates are kind of like, dude, calm down. You know, relax.

He was a pro. Hey, we buried this team. Nice little win for Austin, D. Let's move forward. Peyton Manning finished 21 of 26 for 242 yards and three touchdowns leading the Denver Broncos to a ho-hum 24-17 win

over the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday. The Chiefs, obviously, by the final score you could tell, made a game of it. Terrence Knighton knocked away fourth in goal pass from Alex Smith to Dwayne Bow with 15 seconds left to preserve the win. So the Broncos get a win. They move to 2 and 0,

but as we alluded to at the top of the show, I'm not blown away by the Broncos start here, and we shouldn't be too excited about them at this stage, right? Yeah, they weren't, it wasn't an overwhelming performance at all on offense. A lot of it had to do with in the second half, the Chiefs, and I find them very hard to watch. They put together a 19-play drive to kick off the third quarter to 10 minutes off the clock.

This is meant to be their statement to get back into this game, and they miss a field goal. Are you kidding me? And they basically, they never took a lead after that. You know, Kansas City is not built to, as I said to Chris, they're built to win games 10 to 9. What did you say? They're built to lose games 31 to 10.

I mean, that didn't happen today, but it wasn't far from that happening. And, you know, Denver did what it needed to do to take care of business. I think Denver's defense is probably going to have to play a much larger role this season than they did last. season. But it's one game, and Denver is still a team that can go off for 30 points, I think, if they get hot. Well, Chiefs got that Chargers recipe from last year. Eight drives a piece for the entire game for both teams. The Chiefs outgain Denver. The Chiefs had 380 yards in the

game. I'm kind of amazing. And Jamal Charles went out with an ankle injury early, so Nile Davis came in and did a good job. I think that Alex Smith continues to be underrated for his ability. They kept running, rushing three men, and he's scrambling around all over the place, making plays with his feet, extending plays. But it's not enough. They've got no weapons. Yo, Andy Reid, you have a weapon. Travis Kelsey, use him more.

Well, they are. They led the team. Right, but he also played about half the snaps. He needs to play a lot more snaps than Fasano. If Charles is out for a while, I mean, not that this Chief's team was looking good right now at O&2 anyways, but this was a better performance. Everything went right for them last year. Week after week, the scenarios continued to go in their direction.

the opposite this year. Moving forward, the New York Jets went to Green Bay and Lambo Field looking for the upset, and it looked very good for fans of Gang Green. They jumped out to a 14-0-0 lead and a 21-3 lead, but it all seemed almost, you know, you could see it in the star as it coming. Packers started chipping away. It was 21-16 by the half. By the end of the game, it was 31-24.

A Packers win, Aaron Rogers threw for three touchdowns. And Jordan Nelson just went off with 209 yards receiving on nine catches. I think he was targeted 15 times or 16 times by Aaron Rogers, which is a record for Aaron Rogers targeting any receiver in his NFL career. The big controversy, not so much of controversy, but the play that Jets fans will remember this game by trailing by seven with five minutes to play. Gino Smith hits Jeremy Curley for a 30-yard touchdown to tie the game, or you would think tie the game, but it ends up. Right before the snap, offensive coordinator, Marty Mourningwig was calling for a timeout.

Sheldon Richardson yelled it into the referee's ear, who the referee isn't sure if it was coming from Rex Ryan, who's the only man who can call timeout. So he calls timeout anyway. The play is negated. The Jets ends up getting a first down, but then turning it over on downs and they never got the ball back. Crushing way to lose for the Jets. Same old story, a classic same old Jets loss, and I'm spent. Yeah, you kept saying the words, no one knows what it's like to be a Jets fan today.

Yeah, because, well, I feel like while there are tortured franchises, and Mark, you certainly root for one of them, and Wes, you used to root for one yourself. But the Jets are very good at the crazy type losses that were they so great at snapping defeat out of the jaws of victory, and they find different ways to do it. And being a Jets fan is remembering games by devastating moments. So, like I said, you could ask a real Jet fan 40 years from now about the Packers game in 2014. they'll be able to tell you immediately what happened and what Sheldon Richardson was doing because it becomes one of those, not at the level, I would say, of the fake spike or something like that,

but the same type of thing, like a wild loss under mysterious circumstances, just a terrible, terrible game. And I will say, Gino Smith, for all the credit he deserved early in the game, he started the first three drives, eight for 10, 89 yards, and a touchdown. He ran a touchdown in,

and he had never looked better. In the last nine drives, eight for 22, 87 yards and a pick, according to ESPN's stats. So he really tailed off. Eric Decker pulled a hamstring. He missed the end of the game, which didn't help. Muhammad Wilkerson got booted from the game ejected for fighting after a Patriots 2-point conversion. So it all kind of crumbled for the Jets who are now one-in-one, and the Packers get to one.

I heard a lot of chatter downstairs during this game about the Jets as a potential team of ATL. Where are we with that? It's wiped out. It's over. They needed to win that game because to take this Jets team seriously, I felt like they needed to go into Green Bay make the statement and they got so close to doing it but like i said the jets know how to blow things like nobody else and they really blew this one eric decker's hamstring injury kills that too because i do not want to watch a wide receiver court with jeremy and david nelson

oh trust me you're not alone with that wes he looked like a true number one uh before he hurt the he hurt the hamstring you know smith had a beautiful deep ball uh to decker for a long touchdown in the first quarter uh so everything everything kind of turned by the middle of the second quarter or so so the jets are one and one and the Packers let's face it they needed this right any concern there that they were this close to losing in Lambo you know I I think there should be some cause or concern why you would be out getting off to a slow start despite an embarrassing loss on the road to start the season but you know they more than made up for it and Aaron Rogers you know he's just the fun guy to watch one guy to get I guess

I don't know whether in West we talked about this downstairs whether to put anything into it but maybe it's just back-to-back bad opponents but Eddie Layton He did not really do anything for the second straight week. 13 touches for 40. I would read nothing into that. You can't run on the Jets defense. No, so maybe it's just an issue of his opponents. We do have to read into Jordie Nelson, 209 yards, though.

He's a stud. He's your bad man. He needs to be viewed. Top five. I think he's where he's been for the last two years. He's right in that five to eight range, yeah. He burned D. Milner on a post route for 80 yards and a score. It was the biggest play of the game.

and, you know, it just shows that, you know, you don't give him credit enough for being fast and having great hands and being an absolute complete wide receiver and the numbers today were outrageous. Well, D. Milner telling people that he's the number one corner only in the Milner household. Yeah, see, I mean, he should have never said that. He was worked back into the lineup, but he didn't even start today.

But, yeah, that was a stupid thing, and he deserves to be mocked. We moved to Oakland, where the Raiders look every bit as bad as we all expected them to be. Ari and Foster ran for 138 yards, and J.J. Watt caught a one-yard touchdown pass. I need to see the review of that. I haven't replayed that.

I have not seen it yet. But the Texans cruised to a 3014 lead, just as Derek Carr did a week earlier he threw a late touchdown pass to make it look closer, but this game was not close. The Houston Texans dominated to get to 2-0. So a nice start by the Texans, and the Raiders are 0-2 and going nowhere fast.

I'm not sure we'll go through J.J. Watt's career in its intense. entirety where he scores a touchdown but doesn't show up in the defensive statistical sheet. Didn't have a sack. I don't like that, by the way, because I made a sandwich proposition that Watt would have more sacks than Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware combined. And I believe, Wes, you said that the two Denver players had two sacks today. And my defensive and tackle had a touchdown catch, but that doesn't help me.

I'm sure he'll be back. They didn't need him to do much. Oakland, you know, it's hard to look at the Raiders. and I feel for the fan base because it's so clear that this entire franchise from the top down is going to be utterly recycled sooner than later. There's just nothing about the team. And I'm talking about poor Derek Carr. It's hard to measure his success or his development when he's got nothing around him.

And they filled this team with old aging veterans. None of them are making the impact you'd hope for. They're a lost ship. So if you're building a team, it's not a good idea to let two of your best talent, go on the free agent market, restock with a bunch of 30-year-olds, sign the weakest arm in the NFL, and then declare to everyone that you're a playoff team? That might be the lesson that we would take from this.

Charles Woodson's take on it after the game. We suck. I agree. That's accurate. I'd say he's being mild. Can we get excited a little bit about the Texans yet, or do we need to see him beat some teams? I'm excited about him after the first week.

I think that, you go out and you get Fitzpatrick, and that's instantly. you could criticize that out of the gate, except if games go the way today's went, he did exactly what Bill O'Brien wanted from that kind of a signing. He game managed, they got a great, Aryan Foster is back entirely. He had like 96 yards before the half.

He looks faster to me. He looks driven. Andre Johnson continues to make plays. You know, there's a lot around Fitzpatrick. That's the difference between him and Derek Carr and other quarterbacks on bad teams. And there's a defense. And there's a schedule.

That's the thing I like the best about the Texans being in this for a little while is their schedule. Well, we always said we thought one of these AFC South teams outside of Indy would maybe creep up. We didn't know which. Only after two weeks, small sample size, but the Texans are a good... Texans and Colts are going to be fighting for that division. Maybe so.

You can have your little chargers and your Cardinals and your Browns for team of ATL. Give me the Texans over all those teams. Wait a second. We will talk about that Wednesday because the Texans deserve to be in the conversation. And now to the final game of Sunday. We go to Santa Clara. The opening of Levi's Stadium was supposed to be a great welcome for the Niners and a first victory. It looked like it was heading that way, a 20 to 7 lead over the Bears heading into the fourth quarter.

But then disaster struck. Colin Kaepernick throws two interceptions. They all lead to points for the Bears, puts them ahead. 2820. The Niners have a last gas drive on fourth down. Colin Kaepernick looks to the end zone off the fingertips of Michael Crabtree. A 2820 win for the Bears. A huge win for the Bears.

the Bears, despite missing some guys with injuries that got hurt during the game, banged up wide receivers, they go to San Francisco and get the win. What a huge win for the Bears. What a huge implosion by the 49ers. I can't believe this game happened as it did. The 49ers didn't take advantage of nearly enough opportunities in the first half. They should have been winning by 30. And I mean, they were up, even despite that, they were up 20 to 7 going into the fourth quarter,

and it took those two fourth quarter interceptions that Dan talked about and those were just half of his turnovers. He also lost a fumble and had an interception in the first half, so a fourth turnover game. This is the game tape you submit when you make the argument for whether Colin Kaepernick is a top 10 level quarterback because this is a game where he's all over the place where he's making big plays every once in a while with his arms and his legs, but then he makes the bad turnovers and he's just, he's not able to get his team over the hump.

The table was set. You know, the Bears averaged 1.3. yards per play before their final scoring drive in the first half. They were completely inept. It looked like, you know, Brandon Marshall looked healthier than all Sean Jeffrey, but 49ers quarterbacks were just hugged up against those guys, challenging them to make plays. Marshall, though, by the end of the night, three touchdowns.

Man, it's like he just does what he does. But the Bears, they stole this thing out of thin air. What a wacky. There's so many wacky stats in this game that the Bears won with 21 yards from Matt Forte. Or how about Jay Cutler, Barry? deep in the Gabbard zone 5.2 yards per attempt, but he has four touchdowns. And no interceptions. So they didn't move the ball all night and they somehow go to San Francisco. And the Bears are not a favorite of the around the NFL team. I know we haven't really gotten

behind them as a team that we took seriously in the NFC. And maybe this is a game of the similar situation to some of the games earlier we were talking about with the Cardinals that the Niners gave this one away. But you've got to give the Bears credit. They were going uphill in the first half. They looked like they were doing nothing. Clearly didn't have Alshan Jeffrey at full capacity, but Brandon Marshall had the three touchdowns, but just 48 yards receiving. They lost some guys to injury during the games,

including Peanut Tillman, who has a potentially serious arm injury, lose Chris Conti to a shoulder injury, and they persevere. This is like a really big win for this franchise, and it sets their season in a really good direction. It's one of those wins that we should remember in December when the 49ers are scratching and Klein for a playoff spot.

Or they, you know, they're trying to win a division against the Seahawks. And you think back to week two when they just blew a game that they had. Or maybe they're trying to just sneak into the playoffs because the Cardinals are still ahead of them. The first place, all by themselves, Arizona Card. And that's what they play next week. So that suddenly becomes a game. There's a must-win games in week three. But you've got to take care of business.

Stinging loss for the Niners. And Greg excited, overly excited because just last week he was down, just playing down. my three hero picks and now he gets a hero pick with this game and all of a sudden it's a big deal I didn't say anything oh please I see it all over your face I got a I got a pair of hero picks today so you don't even know you're still behind me that's all I know I'm just look at the overall standings that's what I'm worried about yeah right all right so anyway that is it for sundays edition of the around the NFL podcast we will be back on Wednesday to go over all the news hopefully it would be a better week of things to talk about this upcoming week though I suspect it might not be

but we will be talking about the team of ATL. We'll get into that a little bit more and get ready for Thursday. And football in week three, it just keeps rolling now that season started. So thank you for listening. And we'll be back. This is Dan Hansa signing off for the boss,

the mailman, the sizzler. And of course, I forgot for a second there. Can't forget the sizzler. D.D. Behind the glass until Wednesday. Sounds like Axel Foley. I was going to say, are we at the Max?

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