NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - No. 1 pick traded! & 2016 Schedule Release Extravaganza!

Episode Date: April 15, 2016

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler discuss the latest news from the NFL, including the Rams acquiring the No. 1 in the 2016 NFL Draft from the Titans and the ramifications on the draft. Then, the heroes dig into the 2016 NFL Schedule and look at teams with the toughest schedules and the best revenge games of the 2016 season.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Woo! What a day. You remember a few days ago we were thinking, uh, should we do two pods? Should we do three pods? I don't know if there's going to anything to talk about a lot to talk about, bro. Well, we didn't know that, uh, the schedule release would be Thursday. We certainly wouldn't, didn't know that the number one overall pick was going to be traded Thursday.

I'm shooting off air. metaphorical t-shirt guns right now in this room. I'm so excited. There's definitely somebody in the league office that's like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Those around the NFL guys, not so busy. Let's go jack up their Thursday. Take up the chisels. By the way, we're bringing back jacked up.

I know you've been bringing back things a lot. That's been gone popular segment. You mean the popular ESPN segment where they celebrated crippling brain injuries for a few years? Let's not bring back that. Good idea, Greg. There is a big announcement. It's got checked up by Dan. It's a special, a special day.

It is Wes's favorite day of the year. It is a schedule release extravaganza. And you'll check your phones, your mobile devices, and notice that this podcast is dropping right as the news comes out. So, you know, don't even go to any other form of media. Just, right? Well, actually, you should because we're not going to be able to, like, go. team by team and tell you who your guys your teams are playing but we're going to break it down we're

going to slice it nfl.com and check the schedule oh yeah yeah do that one place we work for nfl dot com also will have it yeah and speaking of uh nfl dot com don't wait what was that you just said i mean if you it depends you've got options you could go to team sites go to esPN you can go to probably bleach your report. I mean, you've got a lot of options. I wouldn't say that they should do that. We've all been writing all morning. I mean, people, if you're going to ingest schedule release content,

it should probably be. I'm not down with controlling people's media habits. Speaking of NFL media and we got a lot to get to, so we can't dilly-dally today. But I just want to say to Wes, I hold in my hand, and Greg has one in front of him. So does Wes. You have in your hand.

You know, Wes, sometimes you will gripe about your pay here. the company. But then something happens like what happened this morning in our office when a woman walked around to all the little. Who was a gentleman? It was actually, it was a man. Yeah. Once again,

the common man rankings. All the worker bees. A bald man. A bald man circled through the newsroom to all the worker bees and dropped off a Bick pen. And if you look very closely, there is a NFL draft 2016 logo on that. Wes, you can't put a price on that. Well, you could.

It's about 59 cents. I have a meeting with the bosses right after this podcast, and I'm basically going there and drop everything I've ever won. Except a pay cut because I have this new fancy pen. It is a pretty good pen. It's actually not that good. What was great was, it was a gentleman. He was bald.

It was actually looking at a list, and probably around 40 people in the room did not get a pen. It was only certain employees that got a pen. And so, West, maybe this is, uh, you remember, it's an olive branch. Remember it's a wonderful life? It's an olive branch. That bald man was the ghost and it's a wonderful life showing you to appreciate what you have, this big pen. Yeah, yeah. It's a wonderful implement.

All right. Let's get, let's get to it. And we'll start. Uh, why not? Just for fun. Let's do some news, Irishman. What can I say? Mamba out.

Another fascinating day. in the NBA yesterday, by the way. It was akin to, washed up Kobe Bryant dropping 60 points on 50 shots in the last game of his career was akin to Peyton Manning and Super Bowl 50, audiblying into a pass every play in finishing 44 of 82 for six touchdowns and four interceptions and a comeback win over the Panthers. It was that type of situation. Well, no, it would be a week 17 game that meant nothing when you were part of the biggest

part of the reason your team was the worst in the league or the second worst. So I wouldn't put him in the Super Bowl. Well, the analogy was how he was a washed of legend. I thought it was especially fitting that he took 50 shots in his final game. It was awesome. It was awesome. Some fans, some obviously intoxicated idiot, but $17,000

worth of Kobe Bryant's snake-skinned memorabilia according to Darren Revelle. So that's information. You holding your microphone. Because my mic on this headset slips till my chin. Why are you following Darren Ravel? Well, he annoys me and that in that news that he distributed, it annoyed me. And I tweeted about it last night. I'm fine with Kobe being out of our lives. Kobe took a lot of shots, but it was a lot of fun to watch. But now we got to talk about the NFL and the huge, huge trade that went down. Listen, are they the Tennessee Titans or

the Tennessee Titans? It still remains to be seen. We'll see how it all plays out. But there is a huge story that came down early Thursday in the NFL and involves the Los Angeles Rams. Yes, the L.A. Rams who had told us that Case Keenham was their quarterback. Well, I don't think that's going to be the case after the news that broke. They have acquired the number one overall pick in the 2016 NFL draft from the Tennessee Titans, and it cost a lot. Tennessee gets the Rams first round pick in 2016, which I believe is 15th overall. Two second round picks in 2016, a third round pick in 2016, a first round pick in 2017, and another third round pick in 2017. And the Rams get, yes, the first overall pick, a fourth round pick this year and a sixth round pick this year.

This is a bombshell one of the biggest trades in recent NFL history, certainly the biggest one since the last time the Rams were involved in a blockbuster that ended with the Redskins drafting RG3, number two overall in the 2012 draft. Greg, your first thought when you heard about this deal? My thought was, hooray for the Rams, hooray for the Titans, too, that it can be a win-win, that I talked about it on the last show, that they seemed like a likely team to move up because they had to do it. They were just at this point in time where they absolutely need a quarterback. And there's no way to know if they're going to be a great quarterback.

But if at any point, Carson Wentz or Jared Goff, whoever they take, is a top 12 to 15 quarterback in the league, they make one Pro Bowl, whatever it is, it was worth it. There's nothing, there's no too much that you can give up for a quarterback. I think that's what you tweeted, right? Right, Chris? And I totally agree with it. There's no such thing as overpaying to get a franchise quarterback when you don't already have a franchise quarterback. Well, and I think the Titans are actually a good example of that because they feel obviously very confident that Marcus Mariotta will be that guy for a long time. And they have the number one pick and you're at that point just building around the most important position. And the trade, the Rams win for that exact reasons that you mentioned,

but so do the Titans. They got a bundle in this, and they have a talented general manager, in my opinion, who looks like he now has the picks to really build a decent team. They're not the Titans. Right, and they get a cup. They get the first and the third next year. So it's always nice when these kind of trades stretch out over years, and you can just look forward to it, and you get extra picks that you can use in different ways.

The Rams only were able to make this pick. Jeff Fisher made this point, and he's absolutely right. They are only able to make this trade. really because of the extra second round pick that they had picked up previously. So these sort of trades give you flexibility and ammo to do whatever you want. Well, he and Sneed also, you know, we're giving each other slaps on the back about the fact that, hey, it's a good thing we had that field goal blocked in that game.

We lost last year. I mean, they couldn't have framed a loss in more of a victorious way. But they're right. I lost the Jim Tamsula. You'd be feeling pretty good, too, if you didn't have to go into your next season with Case Keenum as your quarterback. By the way, the worst smokescreen in recent memory. I think maybe before our G3's drafter, was there a John Beck's smokescreen out in Landover?

I can't recall. No, they really went. They followed through on that one. But I will say this. I still, for me, they're going to remain the titoons until they actually start mattering in wins and losses. Because we said the same thing after Marcus Mariotto was drafted and he started so well. And then they ended up being a joke. And they ended up, and this doesn't always sit with me well as a football fan that a team can be so sucky that they need.

get to leverage that. Like they got Marriota last year, the number two overall pick. And then they got the number one pick again this year. And then they leverage it against a team that was desperate. So now they get all these other picks. Do something about it. Start getting better. I do not want to see you in the top five again next year.

That's why I said bring about a lottery. Remember? My draft rule, the rule I'd like to change. Get the lottery. Get the Titans out of there. And this is a much safer trade for the Titans. I mean, sure, they could blow all these picks. But to me, it's almost a no-lose trade at all.

for the Titans. It's almost, they don't even have to think twice. Of course we could look back in four years and say this didn't work out for the Rams. That's not the point. That's not saying they're not a winner today because there are chances in your football life, especially if you're Jeff Fisher and Les Sneed, who are kind of on the edge here of keeping their jobs that are worth taking. And this is just one of those chances.

Wiley cats, by the way. These two guys, not only, we've been talking for years of these guys are Teflon, and now they wisely trade up and get a course. quarterback, and as long as he shows anything, whoever they end up taking, they will probably buy them more job security, even if they go seven and nine again. These guys could be around for another two, three years, even without doing anything. Well, and I think whenever you find the quarterback, and it's a lesson to teams that want to get too smart and not pick a quarterback when you need one up top, Marcus Marriota, yes, the Titans

are not a good team, but it was a perception-changing draft pick because we think differently about the Titans primarily because of one player right now. And they're able to think differently. They're able to think differently. The Rams are the same way. I mean, the Rams, we made fun of the Rams for their seven and nine endless eternal streak. And the fact of this Case Keenum thing, one season after they basically lied to us about Sam Bradford. So now we don't have to hear any more fibbing and nonsense about the quarterback position.

You get them, you sit on them for the next decade. Well, we get it for a couple of weeks because they're saying that they have not decided who the number one pick. Oh, no, but they have plenty of hay in the barn. Are you buying a word about that? The old Shucks charm of Les Neat, whose hair in the press are better than ever. by the way. But I think now I'm starting to think he's turning on that southern accent a little heavier to make him more endearing in what's going to be a major stressful period in his tenure.

Was a conversation in the newsroom among some of the ladies that I sit near in the middle of the news desks about his good looks, that he was in eight, that even some that wasn't less as tight. It wasn't he, they weren't his type, you know, they're type, but they. Well, they're not breaking news. I mean, he's been in our top hottest executive rankings. for a long time. Well, he's been, yeah, at the top of that list.

Wes. I thought this is a rare trade where it would have been riskier for both teams to stand pat. The Titans could have drafted a Pro Bowl left tackle and had seven or eight open spots in their starting lineup on if you combine both sides of the ball. Now they have a chance in a draft where people say the meat of the draft is from the teens to 70, six picks in the top 76 picks. You can address many different positions. The Rams, I think it's far riskier to stay.

seven and nine, and don't compete with Case Keenum. So what are you really giving up? You give up a chance to go 500 every year? And I think they showed how it works the other way. People have argued that the Rams didn't do well with the RG3 trade. They did well with that trade. They got rockers. They got, whom else am I forget, Aaron Donald was in that trade.

It was one of those picks. Whatever it was, it was a solid group of players. And if the Titans just get three or four starters, it's a good trade for them. And that's almost the best you can hope for. Right. The way the draft was. Well, you hope to get a star out of the... Well, you hope to be the Dallas Cowboys,

Herschel Walker type thing where you really hit on a few guys and build a championship, which they have not built anything beyond a 500 outfit. Maybe this is the move that finally pulls it all together. By the way, Greg, you wrote a winner and losers piece of the train, which everyone can see at nfl.com slash Rosenthal. Who are the biggest losers in this deal? Well, I don't think the Browns can like that a team just traded up.

ahead of them to take a quarterback. We don't know if the Browns are going to take a quarterback. We'll never know if they wanted the quarterback that the Rams take, assuming they don't trade. They're already putting it out there that, well, maybe the Titans, I mean, maybe the Rams and the Browns will trade. They both like Jared Goff. Who really knows?

But the Browns might have a guy that they really wanted at quarterback. And now their option could be limited. It's just not a good thing that a team with the same needs passes in front of them. Totally agreed. I do think that they probably were prepared. for someone to do this. I mean, it sounded even yesterday before the trade. I talked to someone in the office who said basically that teams around the league aren't wondering

if the Titans will treat the pick just went into who. It was almost presumed to be done. Well, and other teams were in the mix, according to the Titans. So I think those other teams, you've got to think of them as potential losers. I would put the 49ers at the top of that list, picking number seven. I thought either they could take a quarterback there or maybe they were going to trade up. the Cowboys at four, maybe they're going to take a quarterback or be able to trade that pick.

So those teams seem to like losers to me, too. It's going to be tougher for them. Big winner, by the way. Oh, yeah. Our Knox fans. This is shaping up as potentially the best season ever. It's got all the ingredients. You got all the ingredients.

You got all the ingredients. You got Sneed and Fishbomb and you got the L.A. move and all the drama there and Todd Gurley. and now you import all this drama with the number one overall pick, some hot shot quarterback. Maybe we'll see him hitting the dating scene in Hollywood. Well, let me ask you, because you cover hard knocks primarily for the site. It's the only thing I really do here, actually.

It's essentially your only doing. End around. End around is big. That too comes around once a year. Mostly hard knocks recaps. Which rookie quarterback would you rather see? I know that we don't spend a lot of time with these guys, but whence or go off. Are you setting me up for failure?

Well, maybe just go off their looks if you don't anything about them. I don't. They're both whites. Once from North Dakota State, I feel like maybe a little culture shock. I like that. I think how much better... Well, what do you think would be better? Wentz seems like he has a little bit more personality.

I don't think either one of them is... You know, they're quarterbacks. For the most part, quarterbacks aren't going to blow you away with wild personality. I think Wenz is considered the more like a personality type here. He seems more interesting. Think about the quarterback battle now that you'll have. Instead of Keenham versus Mannion or Keenham versus Foles. Nick Foles will not be on the roster.

Nick Foles will just be sobbing in the quarterback. He'll be on another team. It might work out well for him because he has guaranteed money from the Rams. Anyways, now it's Keenham versus the North Dakota state guy. Because you know Keatom is sitting there. He's a loser in this trade. He's competitive enough, I'm sure, as any professional would be, that this annoys him. And he's going to, even though it's an uphill battle,

he's going to be battling as hard as he can to keep that job. All right. Can I make one more point about this trade? Yes, sir. No. All right, moving on. I did some research. Since 2008, when Joe Flacco was drafted at number 18,

20 quarterbacks have been drafted in the first round. Tim Tebow is the only one outside of the top five picks who's won a playoff game. And if you look at the franchise quarterbacks from those, out of those 20 guys, only six I would classify as franchise quarterbacks if you include Winston, Marriota, and Bordels. All drafted in the top five picks. It's a different game than it was in 99 and 2000

when guys like Kurt Warner and Jeff Garcia and Rich Gannon were coming out of nowhere to be great quarterback. Right. You can hit on a second round pick. I mean, it happens, Andy Dalton, Derek Carr. But I think what you're saying is these guys that teams kind of agree, they're worth taking as a franchise type. You've got to take them high.

They're just going to go high and you're going to get your Jake Lockers of the world every now and then, too. All right. That's what's happening in the news, and now Wes, who again, as he grips that pen in the same way he feels, wow, wait a second. It's all coming into focus.

Hashtag blessed to be here. Yesterday. On schedule release day? Yes. You don't like schedule release day? Repend. Well, you know, this is a nod to Greg's excellent readership.

He kept me out of the schedule analysis online I mean it was it was good because you know I love what Wes dictates the terms of his writing around here

he didn't say he got out of this entirely he didn't say anything see you just blew the cover sometimes I just do things quietly West went on a schedule release rant and

Dan how about you start doing a lot of this film analysis I didn't ask out of that he didn't he did not ask I just made a decision you know why why force someone

that is clearly antagonistic to the beautiful enterprise when there's not that much we used to have so much to do for scheduleies now it's like we each one one meaty i get i get where west comes from yeah i do more than my fair share on a lot of the analysis stuff i get it west listen this is analysis too i know you don't believe in it's it's like yeah i find it very hard to analyze a schedule four months five months before the season so it's hard for me to come up with it right it's Wes is just less talented than the rest of us at our at schedule analysis. That's absolutely true.

We're great at schedule. That's absolutely true. Here's the truth about it. It is a little fluffy. But I will say this. And there's a lot of like the NFL is catching a ton of heat yesterday on social media because there was an announcement about the announcement. And yes, it's all a little bit ridiculous.

Your old friends of PFT were cute as usual, taking shots at the league. And it's like, but then PFT will have 17 stories up about the schedule. as soon as it lands and or leaks. So everybody that is complaining about the schedule, not you, Wes. Calm down. Well, then don't read about it. Don't get all involved with it. Just stay away until September.

If I'm the person, I guess it would be Eric Weinberger is one of them. The people that really helps start NFL network, the number one successes that they've had for the league as a whole are the scouting combine and this schedule release thing, which I also agree with Wes, especially back. of the day, I used to think was just nonsense. But once our network started doing it for two hours and making it some event, then ESPN copied it.

And then everyone's doing all this stuff. And, hey, it's paying the bills. It's paying the bills is right. So let's break the schedule down, all 32 teams now. They all knew the teams who were they playing, but now they know when they're playing, where they're playing, what time they're playing. Yeah. So that's good.

You always need to know what time. Just like, Wes, you and I have our first. softball game at 7.30 tonight. Just you too? Oh, I thought it wasn't happening. Well, we might be scrimmaging because the other team is going to forfeit from what we're hearing. We don't know.

Also on the team is the Irish. Oh, okay. I just wanted to make sure. I thought that, uh, breaking news there. No. Maybe West got out of the schedule thing because, you know, just sitting near you guys this week, there's been roughly, what, 20 hours of discussion and planning about a, you know, an NFL employee.

I wish you guys the best of luck. It's been a heavy operation. Mark and I also, you know, in the middle, like when our contract negotiations come up, we'll bring up the fact, think of all the extra productivity you got out of us because we're not involved with this softball. Oh, that's going to glow. Taking up half their time. Any executive above us will see that clear as day if they know what they're doing.

By the way, the morale, the teamwork, the character building of playing with your colleagues, that is work in its own right. And for Wes and I, on the Joe Tori, Wes is my first lieutenant. Don Zimmer. We are putting together a champion, and we will keep people informed on the season. Brandon is a young prospect. He has a first baseman's mitt. Will he be able to play first base?

We don't know, West, because it's a co-ed team, and you just don't know how the strategy breaks down. If I'm going to ask who, by all accounts, is a star on this team, I'd be a little insulted that he's called Don Zimmer. You don't know the nuances of the court. And just so it doesn't get ugly in this room. So it doesn't get ugly in here. Greg and I did your team a tremendous favor by not joining.

That's right. We've helped you a lot. And Dan, I want the record to show. I dove on the first practice. Only one guy was bleeding. I dove. We basically had a catch on Tuesday, and Brandon got dirty on one play and had skinned his knee. I go all out, just like I go out for this podcast.

Pick up the chisels. Big day for Brandon so far. You're doing great, buddy. All right. So let's get into the schedule a little bit. We'll start with, Greg, you wrote a piece up on the site right now. First we'll get into the opener. The first game that we're all going to watch will be all excited.

Thursday night of week one is now become customary that the defending Super Bowl champion plays at home, unless the owner of the Orioles bangs you in a big spot. You will play at home. So in this case, the Denver Broncos will open the season against who, Greg? The Carolina Panthers. Yummy, rematch. First ever Super Bowl rematch to kick off a season, which probably shouldn't be that surprising.

It's only somehow the seventh Super Bowl rematch in a regular season in NFL history, which seems like a low number. Well, it does, except if you look at the way the competition. I guess if you think about it, but the league used to be smaller, either way, if you looked at the schedule, the Texans as a potential week one kickoff really annoyed me.

I was not excited about that. thought Patriots would be fine kicking off again the season, but I like this one. Cam Newton against that Denver defense trying to make amends. You're not going to get revenge for the Super Bowl, but at least you can give your next season a nice little feel, or if the Panthers are 0-1 after this game, it's just such a drag. How are you going to feel if it's Mark Sanchez starting, though? Well, it's either going to be Sanchez. Wait, didn't you just break your own rule?

Well, I needed to provide news. Wow. I needed to provide news and analysis, so I put myself second. Greg declared, or Mark Declared a Mark Sanchez moratorium on the pod. Well, it's more important that I will not write about him on any level, ever. By the way, this. I would guess Kaepernick, though, if I had to guess week once. Oh, please.

Can we not talk about that? I'm just saying. Yeah, but you're right. You're probably right. There is, you know, I think that this will be a strange situation because the Panthers were so badly outplayed a couple of months ago. Now you would think there will be a favorite. this game, right? Were they that badly outplayed? I guess maybe not. It's in Denver. They committed a lot of their own mistakes on the field.

I think I did go back and rewatch it eventually, and it reminded me a lot of the Giants Patriots Super Bowl, where I thought that the Giants were so much tougher than the Patriots throughout the game. So yeah, maybe they weren't, it wasn't that mismanaged, but the Boncos were the tougher team on sides of the ball, no doubt. Okay, what about some other, Greg, primetime games that really jumped out to you when you thumbed your way through the schedule. By the way, the notorious D.O.P. Hank Hotson, known in some circles as handsome Hank on the Dave Daveshick football program. It is cloak and dagger stuff when the schedule gets handed out to only essential personnel in the newsroom. Hashtag blessed. We all got a copy of the schedule

yesterday. I didn't give Wes one. See? He kept out of the loop. He wasn't right it. He didn't get one. The perk. It was kept under locking key to the point where... Believe me, I gave zero thought to not having this schedule. We were warned to hide the schedule because if it leaks on your watch, you banged. You can't get the digital copy. You got to just get the hard card.

When you post these articles, you know, to go behind the curtain, you're only allowed to email it to two or three very specific people. The last thing you want to do is use the collective group email, which would send it to our entire office. So it's a good thing that none of us did that, right, Dan? I happen to write a piece that we'll get into a little bit. Best Revenge Games on the schedule that I sent to roughly 500 people in the company. Not all essential personnel, and you just hope there's no traders.

Including seasonal employees who are home right now, you know, probably out to lunch and texting stuff. I should share an email that I got from a shadowy league figure, one of the top lieutenants within our division, who replied to my email or my copy with the line. probably shouldn't have done that to DM writers, which is the name of the group. That's understained. Probably. And then I responded because there's only one way to respond.

Yes, I am an idiot. Yes. Anyway, primetime games. Well, I focused on the week one prime time games, which is really what I always look at first. That's all I care about because I can't think too far ahead. And I think the best game of the season for me happens to be that first Sunday night game. I wish they had saved it a little longer, but Cardinals, Patriots, in Arizona as your week one Sunday night game.

I mean, those are two corkers off the bat. You have the four teams that were the final four in the NFL are the two first NBC games. And, you know, as talented as a team as you could possibly want in Arizona, Chandler Jones. First game of the year, he's going to be trying to make Bill Belichick pay for it. You got your first Martellis Bennett, Rob Grunkowski, together, citing. It's a cool game. I don't like it because we tape a pod during it. We're going to get our first look at Carson Palmer's irreversible decline.

I mean, a lot of stuff to look forward to. Wes, you can get excited about this game. Yes. We were tasked with an NFL now hit, and this was going to be my choice for Best Game of the Year. I didn't know it was going to be the Sunday. So for you, week two, it's all downhill. It's just to turn off your team.

Those are two fun ones to start. And then you have the two Monday night games. Of course, they do the double header. Love the double header. Now that's traditional. I wish they would just do that every Monday night. now. Oh, Greg.

Why not? Because it's about, you know. Remember they had that middle of the night, Sunday night game? That was terrific. That was too much. That was Raiders. And also the London games at 5 a.m. I like that too.

Let's calm down with that as well. New window. All right. Spread them all out. Well, you remember my old theory. This was a couple years ago on the podcast. I broke it out. Just two games a day for the entire.

I love that idea. I do. No days off. Two games a day. I like that theory. Steelers Redskins. Little random, but two playoffs. teams on that first Monday night game.

I mean, I like it. I like that we're diffusing the boring nature of the NFC East with the most exciting offense just about to watch in the league. And then the Monday night finale, first Los Angeles Rams game in San Francisco. Well, why in San Francisco? That's mildly tedious. Why? Because you want the, it is a little weird.

Why not kick off the L.A. era in L.A. That's a great point. Sure the Coliseum is. and runes right now, so they're just frantically trying to. Well, there are legitimate issues with the Coliseum in USC, as you could imagine. And if you look at the Rams schedule, they only have two games in the Coliseum before November 6th. And that's largely because of USC playing on Saturdays and different rules and things like that. They also have their quote-unquote home game in London during that time.

So that takes up some time. But who knows, we don't know who the quarterback's going to be for either of these teams. But it is Chip Kelly 2.0. bad one to end it. Let's talk about teams that at this point, it appears that the scheduling gods are working in their favor. And Greg, we actually did an NFL now video hit earlier this morning where you were talking about the Green Bay Packers, of all teams, of all the teams that need a break, the Packers appear to have a nice clear path to perhaps the NFC North title. Yeah, I like that the, I like all the NFC North schedule because they have the easiest out-of-division

schedule, I think, of any teams. I believe it's the AFC South and the NFC East. So if you want to load up some wins, I think the Vikings, Packers, Lions, you know, they're all in good shape. The one thing the Packers have going for them is they don't have to play the Packers. That's a tough match. The one thing the Packers have going for them is they don't really play any superpowers. Right.

The schedule looks for Green Bay, especially early in the season. You're always looking at, like, is a team going to get off to a quick. start, and I love the way the Packers schedule. Yes, it starts with two road games, Jaguars, Vikings, but then you don't face another team that had a winning record last year until what is it? Week 11,

and that's the Redskin. So it's just a lot of teams that were mediocre last year, and that's true of a lot of these NFC North schedules. You know, Connor Orr wrote this, again, we have a ton of schedule release content at NFL.com. Almost too much. You could argue that.

You could argue that. And if you can't get enough of this written content, three hours of live coverage on the old Mothership Network. Yeah, if you're listening to our podcast. Get the whole family together. Three hours. Go for a picnic. Connor Orr has offered up the Dallas Cowboys as a team with an easiest schedule.

I'm not sure if I agree because I don't know if they're a type of team that has any gimmies. But this is what Connor had to say. They opened it home. They got back to back. Well, they opened the home against the Giants. They travel to Washington. then they host the Bears at home before going up to San Francisco. It's a good start.

It's a nice start. And I talked about the Ravens is another team that I thought had what looked like an easier sked because they were playing the two East Divisions, which other than the Patriots, there's not a lot of powerhouses. But I like to look, I don't like to put too much into the schedule, but I like to look at the top of the schedule and see which teams can potentially get off to that 2-0, 3-1, best-case scenario. 4-0-type start.

I think the Ravens are a team like that. Connor believes the Cowboys are a team like that as well. Yeah, I kind of disagree. Because the NFC East, while the indivision games are not difficult, they do have to play the AFC North out of the division. They do have to play the NFC West, I believe, out of the division. Am I wrong? I'm wrong.

The AFC North, which is either way, it's not easy. AFC North is, you don't want to, any NFC East team is dealing with a tough deal there. now let's move to Wes any thoughts on that no no thoughts you guys covered it well as you did Wes is just going to sit out the the whole podcast as you did in the written form who is your easiest schedule on on NFL now I believe you thought the Baltimore Ravens well I talked about that roughly yeah that's right that's right I was looking at okay we're all excited about the schedule release he took my hot tag it was going to be the Packers When I glanced at their schedule

It seemed by far the easiest of anyone You know If there's teams that have a nice schedule There's teams, they got banged And I want to talk about one of them And you know, it's not fair Because a certain team That plays in the Meadowlands

Snopping back to the big game Since 1969 You know, won 10 games last year Didn't even get in the playoffs And how do my New York Jets get rewarded for being a non-playoff team with this heavy heart in the pain of all the years of frustration. Number two on the pain rankings, NFL.com slash pain rankings. The New York Jets start their season with six games, five games, their first six games

are against five playoff teams, Cincinnati Bengals at home, at Buffalo, at Kansas City, home to Seattle, at Pittsburgh, at Arizona on a Monday night. the only team that didn't make the playoffs, of course, is the Bills, who swept the Jets last year. And it's on a short week on the road. It would be very, it's very possible that my beloved New York Jets, and I can tell you guys are emotional and upset about it as well, could go two and four.

Worst case scenario, we go one in five, and their season's over. I'm very nervous that this could be one of those seasons where the Jets bomb out in the first two months based on the schedule. side would be that this is a perfect set-the-table operation for Gino Smith's comeback tour. This is, I, you know, don't even play the game. Lost season for the Jets. Moe Wilkerson gets traded on draft weekend.

Gino Smith takes over at quarterback and they have a hard schedule. It's going to be like a four and 12th. Well, Gino Smith's going to take over after the two and four start when they bench Ryan Fitzpatrick and then he's going to look great. It does, it does ease up. By the way, nothing anyone said just now is not unrealistic. It's all this is in play. I think the Jets are doomed after looking at the schedule. That is a, you almost wonder,

because they try so hard for parody and to give a team like the Jets who had a nice season last year, you thought they'd want to bounce off that. That is a rough slate. It's just today. It's just the AFC East. And yes, the Jets schedule eases up a little bit

in the second half, though they do have their... Better. They have their two Patriots games in the last six weeks, so those are obviously... That's easing up? But the AFC East, They all have tough schedules. He's a Jets fan, but if the Jets had opened with the Dolphin schedule,

we'd be here and crying about that too. The dolphins start with the longest potential trip in the entire NFL, if you're staying domestic, and that is to Seattle. That's a loss. The next week is in Foxborough. That is literally the hardest one-two punch. Any combination I believe that you could come up with in the NFL at Seattle. Well, it gets real nice in week three.

At New England. Yes, you get the Browns in week three. for your home opener. So, you know, Gloria. Estefan's going to enjoy that. You know, she brings out, what's her backup band? Dude, the Miami sound. Wow.

So the sound machine's playing halftime. You get a win. But then you go to Cincinnati on a Thursday night on a short week. Another tough team. So that, if you're better than one and three coming out of that, they're doing pretty lucky. Yeah, but then they got the Titans and maybe they'll be better this year. But the Browns, obviously, four and 12 team, the Titans, 2 and 14,

sandwiching the Bengals game. So we don't know how these teams are going to be. But they can be okay. They can be two and three after five weeks. But they basically have the same schedule as the Jets. And so my point is the bills have this schedule. The Patriots have a tougher version of this schedule. Oh, they do?

Do they play the Patriots twice? No, they don't have to deal. What a joke. Classic Throne of E's stuff. Classic Throne of Ease! Again! Again! How do you forget that, Greg?

New England opens in Arizona, by the way, a brutal start. The division has to play. the top two divisions of our division power ranking. So we're the smartest NFL analysts in the country. We decided that the AFC North and the NFC West are the two best divisions. Those are the two divisions that the AFC East play. So you could see a lot of these teams kind of slide back a little bit. It's going to be tougher.

I like that the Browns and 49ers are listed here on the hardest schedules because when your roster is in such dire straits as they are in San Francisco and Cleveland, every game is a hard game on the schedule. Yeah, I mean, Cleveland, the problem in Cleveland... But it's true, they do have a tough schedule. That division is hard. It's always tough because you automatically get banged six times with the other teams in that division.

But the other problems, they're just not good at football right now. So it's like, honestly, because even some of these bad teams you could have what we would call an easy schedule, you're still going to win three games. Yeah, but it's especially, it especially seems cruel for the Browns. In their first seven games, only two of them, them are at home. So five road games out of seven, which is a very, you know, they obviously have a heavy backloaded home schedule. And those two home games, one's against the Ravens,

you know, division game, and the other one's against the Patriots. So you've got to be annoyed if you're a brutal start. That is. And if you're the ownership in Cleveland and you're trying to sell tickets and all your games are at home in November and December and you're one in nine, you're looking at a half empty stadium. Is Owen 16 in play? You are a factory of sadness. Stop. Don't say that before. Put the chisel down. Look at the Buccaneers in the first five weeks. This stands out.

In the first five weeks, the Buccaneers play the Cardinals, Broncos, and Panthers. The three best teams in the NFL. Yeah, and two of those games are on the road. I think they play two road games to start the year. The Bucks have a tough one. I thought the Rams, and you could really put any team that gets stuck playing a home game in London as a team with a tough schedule because you're basically giving up a home game. I know everyone's excited they're moving here

but like I said they have two home games in L.A. before November 6th and that's because of the USC thing and they also are they going to have that much of a home field advantage here anyways and there are going to be a lot of road fans in L.A. It's quite about at least initially.

All right, let's move on. And you got to play four games against the Seahawks and Cardinals. That ain't fun. That ain't fun, that ain't fun, bra. Let's move on. Mark, you wrote an excellent piece. I couldn't put it down. on the Thursday night football schedule, the games that really jumped out to you.

Well, I had to write about every game, actually. And I know, I believe I had this assignment last year, and it was a banger, I remember. The Twitter, first of all, Kevin Patrick had it. Wasn't it? Dan had it two years ago. He did a very, what I thought was I wanted to take this approach.

You'd put them in tears. Kind of best to worst. Right. And then NFL Network got on Dan's back and said, uh-uh, we ain't doing it. this way. So now it becomes what a Russian novel where you go through every single game and give your thought.

That reminds me of when they had me do a live blog of the first Pro Bowl draft, and I made a crack about Steve Mariucci potentially getting blown into the Pacific Ocean, and several producers talked bad about me behind my back for years, and maybe to this day for badging It's still going on. All right, Mark, TNF Sked, what jumps out? Well, when I was going to do top five. I struggled with it, to be honest with you, because I think TNF has a bit of a complexity issue in terms of getting the best games, because it's where you have to put all these teams that wouldn't be on prime time otherwise.

And there's a lot of divisional games, obviously. Yeah, they're really focused on that. I think they're almost all divisional games. They aren't all because you've got Miami and Cincinnati in week four. I like right out of the gate. I know you don't like the Jets schedule, but Week 2, Jets versus Rex Ryan in the Bills. I like getting that, let's tee that up early and get a feel for both teams. I think, you know, Buffalo's got a lot to prove that Jets don't want to deal with Rex Ryan.

They want to put them under six feet under the ground and they'll have a chance to be too. We don't want to kill them. Well, I don't, you know, I don't want to die either. Can I just say it was kind of an amicable divorce between Jets fans and Rex? I like to make it more than it was. You know, I thought there was a lost opportunity in week five. Arizona Cardinals, which were on prime time a lot last year. You put them against the Niners.

and, you know, come on, could we have found a better matchup here? But again, TNF has to get the Niners on prime time somehow. That's an interesting call, though, because the minimum is one primetime game, but the Niners, just looking at it, they got two. And I feel like that's one too many for the Niners. I feel like they should have been at the minimum. Yeah, you're right. Because they got the opening week one, which is sort of, you know,

that doubleheader, second one isn't the best spot. But, yeah, I agree, Cardinals 49ers. But there's some good games here. Texans Patriots is interesting. week three. I think they have done a good job later in the year because week 13 and 14, December 1st and December 8th, you get the Cowboys at the Vikings, has potential to be interesting, and, you know, a matchup that has really pretty much sucked for a long time. The Raiders and chiefs, a story rivalry actually might have some juice at that time of year. I like this week 16 game

with playoff implications on the line. T.J. Yates comes off the bench, recovered from ACL surgery, and beats the Bengals again. That's on Christmas Eve. So while the rest of America is unwrapping presents and by the fire, T.J. Yates keeps us to war. With Wes at the keyboard, monitoring every move. By the way, this has nothing to do with, you know, I guess we could have known this before today,

but this is one of those years, and I believe it only happens once every seven years. First time since 2011. I guess even more often. That football is being played on. Saturday of week 16, the whole league just about, and it's Christmas Eve. With a night game. And then with a night game.

Then they put a couple games on Christmas as well. Papa, where are you? Yeah, basically, as I, you know, when I was scanning this, you're trying to, what fires are we going to need to put out on the home front? It's a long season. And, you know, you get around to the fact that we all, you know, you're getting banged with three games on Thanksgiving. And now it's usually Christmas, which, you know, it falls on a Wednesday or a Thursday. and everyone, Connor Orr probably does an early shift and everyone else is off. Now it's line it, line yourself up for 27 games in a row, a ton at night.

Everyone six across go. Mama, did daddy go away? Get ready for that. Exactly. You know, the league has essentially their family first motto takes a hit here. You just, you're just going to have to pretend that the 26th, the 26th this Christmas. That's all. Oh, that's a great tradition.

Mama, what are daddy's priorities? Can I mention one thing? In week 10, beat writers listening to this thinking we're a bunch of spoiled guys. We get to stay home with our family. They all got to go travel. All right. They are not listening to this. Bar, can you provide some nuanced contacts on NFL's deal with Twitter?

Well, I actually asked a question because I asked a follow-up question. They said, what is it going to look like on Twitter? What does it mean? You sit there and you can't get away from it. There are a lot of people on Twitter who have nothing to do with football because you have a choice to not watch it. And the answer was, we don't know.

That's not new. That's where we're at. Well, I'm giving you as much information as I have. I assume it'll be some sort of, you know, like any online presentation. It'll just be, it'll basically be some sort of screen or whatever you call it, app type of thing you're watching the game. And maybe they'll integrate Twitter.

Twitter next to you know what I mean. It's not like they're going to make you watch it. You got to open it up. up like the NBC one or the NFL one. Yeah, well, the couch show on Sunday. How do you tweet while you're watching the game on Twitter? How is that going to be integrated? It's just going to be sort of on the right rail where it's all like connected.

It would be cool. If they don't change the name of that show to the couch show, they're really missing an opportunity. Well, Dave Damashik, wait, what is it? We're a little rusty now. It's the Sunday extravaganza. NFL game day blitz? NFL game day blitz, only on NFL now. Well, you know, it's different too.

is we get Al and Chris on these Thursday nights. They have five games, CBS is five games. Well, they won't know what to do without an NFC's team in every one of these. Since you brought up... They do have the Cowboys here, at least once. Since you brought up the announcers, oh, Mike Tariko, you've done it again. Tasked with calling the final Kobe Bryant game,

you provided call after call that made me think, once again, you are the best in the business with all apologies to Al Michaels. So versatile. I thought it was funny, though, that Hughie Brown, there was a little bit of discomfort you could tell. with him of the total focus on he's hit 50 points and then huby's like yeah but they're trailing by 10 like he kept mentioning that a couple times that oh hey by the way like there's a game being

playing yeah but who's it all worked out well because cobi ended up making a comeback and they win but but every once in a while you could see it was a little uncomfortable with tariko just going well who really had the right context though because who cared about the game the game's the outcome of the game terrico terrico got to the heart of the matter i agree but only because they won. If they had lost by 10, it wouldn't have been the same thing. It was a good Kostas impersonation by Tariko, getting to the heart of the manner.

Well, I like that. By the way, a lot more Kostas coming at you with this new Thursday night. Oh, that's true. It's interesting. I noticed in our makeup room. I don't know if Dan or Wes, you've ever seen this. There's a picture of Bob Kostas with his signature on it in our makeup room.

You know how people sign a little picture and they put it up? There's one from Kostas from 2004. I saw that the other day. I went back in there today, and I looked, and it was stolen. It was gone. No, that is not. It was God. Number one, we have seen that.

It's a Polaroid. They have hundreds of Polaroids of everyone that's ever been. That's right. Everyone but four people that have ever been on NFL Network. And Costas is one of them. Listen, our list of grievances is growing. Finally, before we get out of here, let's talk revenge games. I'm just trying to goose this one up a little bit

because I wrote the copy. It's like when the chorus hits is when it really takes off. Bang. All right. This gets me thinking I should ask my wife, Emiko, you know, some of her favorite J-pop. I mean, because I think you can do even better than this.

Pond, Pond. I know she likes bump of chicken. that's one. Oh, we got to look that up. What is that name? Irishman, can you take note of that? That wasn't her favorite. There was this other group that was her favorite.

That sounds like a youth. My buddy Dave liked them too, but I can't remember. How do you top? Bump of chicken. How do you top that? Good luck to you. Let's open the next show with a bump of chicken. All right, so this is about the games that scream revenge.

And the two that really obviously jump out, one in week seven. We'll start with, actually, we'll put it in order in which they'll take place. Week 4, RG3 against the Redskins in Landover. Of course, there are two things in play here for this even to be something that's on the nation's collective radar by the time this actually comes around. RG3 has to be the starter for the Cleveland Browns, which we don't know as of yet, depending on how the draft shakes out. And RG3 has to stay healthy for the first three weeks of the season, which is no given, obviously, given his history. But let's just, for the fun of it, say he is on the field as the start. starter and he is high in the sky playing well mark then he gets to go into washington the team

that gave up on him the guy that was supposed to make that franchise relevant for a decade and a half instead they kicked him out the door and now he gets a chance at revenge i thought this might wind up being Cleveland schedule for like the eighth year in a row there are there is one primetime game and 15 games that start at one p.m. I notice that and that's the case again I thought this would get that primetime treatment, but, you know, it has to be earlier in the year. And they're lucky that it's early. They knew it wasn't definitely going to happen, so they probably couldn't bank on it. What?

Well, they put them on Thursday night football in a week 10 against the Ravens in Baltimore. You think Mark's being cute, the way he's talking about the Browns and prime time? I mean, why? That's not, forget me. Football fans don't want to watch that game. Well, so I guess, I guess you're right. I mean, come on. Wait, what is the question?

Well, I thought that, I thought he was like smirking at. Oh, no, I don't think he... Griping about the Brown's prime time. No, I think he knows that that's not a good idea. I like this, Mario Williams, because it was just at the owner's meetings in March where Rex said, we're going to have that game circled. Hmm. Yeah, and not only did Mario Williams call out Rex Ryan, that's two matchups, obviously,

because Williams landed with the Dolphins, so Week 7 and 16, Williams called out Rex Ryan's schemes as not a good fit for his skill set, and then Bill's players as things that got ugly leaked how Mario wasn't really playing hard, and this was a guy who's, you know, highest-paid guy in the team. By the way, a little breaking news since we're on the topic of the Buffalo Bills, Percy Harvin. Nice. Man, the chisels. Everybody's working through the weekend on Mount Rushmore because Brandon is killing it today.

Percy Harvin has told the bills that he's retiring from the NFL. This is from rap sheet per source and formed of Harvin's thinking. So we heard this basically goes against the reporting from about a month ago that he was planning on playing, but apparently, you know, speculation here, but maybe that hip is not bouncing back and it's now something that he decided to end his career on Percy Harvin at a football before the age of 30. Definitely just doesn't mean what it used to me because that's what the report was, March 30. He's definitely playing in 2000.

Well, he has informed the bills that he's retiring. Who knows he could obviously change his mind. Next week. Right. Or he could, even more likely, change his mind next year. That's becoming, I don't know if it's a trend, but I could see it becoming a trend. Players taking a year off like Anthony Davis.

Percy Harvin's only 27 years old, might decide he wants to play again. But if he doesn't play again, what a weird career. Yeah. Four teams look like a superstar, gets kicked off, essentially, the Super Bowl champion team because of a fight. Just a strange career when you thought he was going to be so good. A talent level, though, I mean, we just talked about RG3.

You want to talk about a list of players where injuries side-swiped what would have been potentially a really fascinating NFL career. I mean, Harvin is – if you had put Harvin with an earlier period, Brett Farb, when he was with Farve in the Vikings, he was marvelous. He was good as a rookie. He's a rare rookie that came into the league and made a big impact right away and was pretty healthy his first three years in the league. It was like – I feel like we've – there were 4,000 artists.

article's written about the migraine. With Harvard, it just shows you how quickly things changed in the league. Last spring, there was the big around the Jets, a big hubbub. Should they keep Percy Harvin at $13, $14 million a year or cut him loose and go get someone else? They decided to trade for Brandon Marshall. That obviously worked out very well for Big Mac. He then signs of the bills, Wes, and I remember you writing about it. He looked great in September, and then the injury bug came up and got him.

Early in his career, one of the physically toughest wide receivers in the league, and maybe the best after-catch wide receiver I ever saw was the first eight weeks of 2011 or 12. He was in the MVP race, and he was so elusive after the catch. Bill Belichick loves him. Well, think about it. Only three years ago, the smartest or one of the smartest front offices in the league gave up a first-round pick to acquire him and a third-round pick.

It was a first and a third to get Percy Harvin. But anyway, so yes, maybe we'll talk about that a little later in another show, but back to, you know, revenge, which is the key thing to be talking about here. Yeah, so the Bills don't like Mario Williams. Mary Williams doesn't like the Bills. That's double-sided revenge narrative. A couple other revenge pops, of course. Brock Osweiler versus the Broncos versus the Broncos in week seven.

And they put that in prime time? It's Monday Night Football, my friend, Mike Tariko, and John Gruden with a call. so yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy. And I like this one, Wes. Chris Long versus the Rams, week 13. I know, Wes, you think that Chris Long's got something in the tank. You know he has that date circles because how annoying is it to be, Chris, all, everything ended up well.

You're with the AFC powerhouse. But after years of middling teams in St. Louis, they moved to L.A. That's fun. Then they go get the quarterback. And now you get shipped out of town or get dumped. How about I? I'd take the Patriots if I was him. How about an impromptu round of go get my lunch?

Wow. I like this. Chris Long has more sacks than Chandler Jones in the 2016 season. I'll take that. I knew you would. I will take it too. All right. Yeah, because you're going with a guy who even in his prime was not getting the same amount of sacks as Chandler Jones.

I believe Chris Long's only top 10 sacks once. I like to look at it that I will not owe you that sandwich till at least about January 2nd. From 2010 through 2013, Chris Long averaged 75 hits. hurries, and sacks, which was second in the NFL over that four-year span to Cameron Wake 76. Yeah, but the last two years are also a real thing. They happened. They were cut short due to...

He did have two seasons over 10 sacks. I'm sure he's lost a step or two, but we're talking about a guy who was one of the premier pass rushers in the league. And the Patriots got him at a huge discount. Good sandwich wazer. What a shocker. Breaking news and go get my life. Yeah, and that reminds me, by the way.

That's enough of that revenge, malarkey. That reminds me that my least favorite round, but I take part in it because that's, you can't be a coward. My least favorite round of go get my lunch props is draft season, where I got killed last season. I think something to the tune of two and 14. I've rallied back when real football stuff. But now I'm back with a new strategy I'll have. But we will have to do it, I guess, next week or the week after we got two weeks to figure it out. but we will have another round to go get my lunch, draft edition.

And if you want to check up on how things are going, go get my lunch.org looking at the total standings. Ooh, I'm back in first. Oh, nice plug by Greg for Greg. No, Dan's basically tied. You know, I have more wagers, but we're both nine over. So it's close. Wes is right there as well.

Mark, Mark, so much. I started terribly. I actually did well in the draft one, but the draft's going to be a wild card because I would wager that the four of us have never spent less time studying the draft than this year. That's potentially true. All right.

We got to go. iTunes Challenge is still going on. Hashtag iTunes Challenge. Leave a five-star rating. Leave a comment. Let's goose it. Let's beat the Apple Corporation. And really stick it to them, guys.

We will be back on, let's say, Monday. Definitely Monday. uh with another show as we move closer to the draft thank you everyone for listening uh this is dan hansis signing off for quiet storm the mailman we got through it west schedule release spectacular is out of the way the boss and the irishman behind the glass till monday in the heat of battle your squad relies on you don't let them down unlock elite gaming tech at lenovo.com dominate every match with next level speed seamless streaming and performance that won't quit so you can push your gameplay beyond performance with intel core ultra processors for the next era of gaming upgrade to smooth high quality streaming with Intel Wi-Fi 6e and maximize game performance with enhanced overclocking Win the tech search. Power up at Lenovo.com.

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