NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Non-contending Super Bowl teams

Episode Date: June 25, 2015

A room with some heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal and Chris Wesseling -- are joined by NFL Now's Colleen Wolfe to discuss the latest NFL news including the Peyton Manning trade rumors (7:34). The guys also discuss if Geno Smith will make the leap in 2015 (22:15) and debate which teams have no shot at the Super Bowl this season (32:10). Plus, an all-new "Orr You Kidding Me?!".Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast knows how to get through to millennials. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and I am joined by a room filled with some heroes, Chris Wessling, Greg Rosenthal, and yes, Colleen Wolfe. What's up? Great. I like that. That was me this morning. You're an actual wolf woman. We don't have our cans on today. I didn't, I forgot to say hey, Dan.

Well, listen, we're a little out of it. There's some new technology right now. TD Incorporating. Everybody's uncomfortable about it. Mostly me. But Wes, especially, we're using, in the industry, what are called what, TD, lob mics? Lov mics. Loves with a V? Lavalier. Hey, man. See, Colleen, she's an expert, man. Lavely, in relation to old Pirates catcher, Spanky Lavalier?

What is that reference? He's a catcher for the Pirates in 1887. Oh, and like the early 90s. Mike Lavalier? Any West's references that no one under the age of 35 has any idea what he's talking about. Colleen, how the hell are you doing? I'm great. Yeah, it's great to have you back.

Uh-huh. Super excited. I feel like it's been a while. It has been. We were talking on my flight back from Philly. I was really excited. Yeah, we were, uh, dismayed. discussing over text while Colleen was flying back here,

and you were very excited to chat, clearly lonely on the airplane. I had nobody to talk to, and I was going crazy, and I just wanted somebody to text me back. And so Dan started texting me back. I was the only one that would. I'm a dependable dude on the guy that helps people out. Hey, very big show today. Like, I legitimately mean that we have a lot to get to today.

You know, Greg, the Making the Leap series is in full bloom now. And the number 19 out of 20 entry was, my boy, Gino Smith of the New York Jets. And as soon as I read Greg's fantastic piece, and I did read it. It's the first thing that I've ever read that I wrote. You have to write a wildly complimentary piece about a Jets player to get that. I didn't even know Greg wrote for around the NFL until I read that piece. But it was a very thought-provoking piece at the very least. So we're going to talk about Gino Smith.

And we're also going to check it with Kevin Patra, who was at the Rookie Symposium. Where is that? That's in Ohio, Aurora, but they made a trip to Berea in Cleveland, which is about an hour away. The Indian burial group. They also went to the Hall of Fame in Canton. But yeah, Aurora. Does every state have an Aurora? It feels like it.

Wasn't that where Wayne's World was? Yes. It was where Wayne's World. Aurora, Illinois. Right. So maybe there is an Aurora, Aurora, everywhere. That's a theory. We will also do something we did last year. Now, I meant to check if we got this right.

I'm sure we did because some brilliant football minds in here. We are going to declare on June 25th who is not a contender for the Super Bowl this year. Outright, no chance. Maybe it's like the precursor to our Stick a Forkingham series, which I don't think we do that anymore. But we will decide which teams, you know, if you're a fan base, You still listen to the podcast, obviously, but understand that while you might enjoy and have fun following your team, it will not end in San Francisco in February.

No chance. Well, they call this the season of hope, and we're ending that season for some fans today. Well, it needs to be ended. There are this Super Bowl contender or a playoff contender? Super Bowl contender. Oh, we're going to eliminate like 27 teams today. No, I think even playoff contend.

I mean, if you make the playoffs, you could win the Super Bowl. That's not true. The Bengals can't win the Super Bowl. Well, we'll get into all that. Yeah, it's something we'll get into. And, of course, we're going to bring it back after a one-week hiatus, hiatus even though it's only been around one week. Are you kidding me?

With Connor or our New Jersey correspondent for around the NFL. So, yes, a lot to get to. But before we do any of that, we check behind the glass, TD, pushing us into boundaries that make us uncomfortable, as usual. But listen, all for a greater good, right? That's what it is. Game of Thrones, man. That's why the throne is, you know, made of swords.

You can't get too comfortable, you know, always going to be pushing. Either way, they're about, to my count, about 20. That's good to move on from that analogy. None of us watch Game of Thrones. No, come on. Dan does. Like, you guys need to stop. Dan's is actually one of us, you know?

Like, he tries to act like as you guys sound old, but Dan, you know, Dan gets down. I don't think. It's not because I'm old. It's because I, you know, there's always some. I'm a little plugged in. I'm a little more plugged into pop culture than my colleagues. probably, yeah. At some point, TD, you're going to realize you have a finite amount of time on this earth and you just wasted like 15 years watching Super. Transformer sequels.

Anyway, your point. Point is, Ovar has, to my count, 20, there are 20 different cities in the United States, at least. Two in New York. That's really random. So, just thought out. There's two in New York? There's two in New York, yes. That's very confused. Did you find out who the Nigerian president was yet? I did. I told you the last time. What was it? Buhari or something. Mahamadu Bohari. Yeah.

I know. I don't know what's going on. All right. I have a fun movie story, but I won't tell it. I want to bug you guys down. That's a great team. That's what's called a tease for something that will never happen. Let's do some news.

All right. Well, you don't want any of your story, but never mind. I'm not going to tell it. Well, I mean, we're busy. We got a lot of stuff to get to. How good is the story? It's just weird. That's all.

It's interesting. All right. Tell the story. We've got to hear it now. So, this movie dope came out last week. I go to a barbershop. I'm about to go see the movie dope. I'm getting my hair cut.

And Barber gets a call from his sister who lets him know that he's in a movie dope in a barbershop scene. You know? So I was like, how random is that? That's all it is. That's the story? That's the story. You know, I went to see the movie dope and I got my hair cut by the guy barbershoping the movie dope. I hope the movie was better than the story.

Wow. Let's do some news. hit single of Sierra probably her best single ever and that's what Russell Wilson is all about right now yeah Russell Wilson is it's interesting what he's going for he's one of the more milk toast NFL stars and I think he's trying to add a little edge so he's getting Sierra in the mix who's

you know kind of a frisky R&B star they're dating supposedly and he posted kind of I'm not going to say it was an inappropriate image of Sierra but it was one of those type of you know Saltree type images that he used Google for it. Oh, did he? I mean, yeah. It's always good to artificially construct

an edge instead of just being yourself. So you're saying this is one of those relationships constructed by publicists and it doesn't even really exist. It's incredibly lame. Yeah. I mean, if you have to post a picture of your girlfriend, use your personal photos, not Google.

Words to live by. All right, let's get to some news. Sierra and Russell Wilson. Good luck to you, kids. All right. We'll start with Peyton Manning, who, as we all know in the off-season, there were some whispers about what his future was in Denver. They wanted him to take a pay cut. He eventually did take a pay cut.

And then we had a report they came out that there were some talks or there was some buzz between the Texans and the Broncos about a trade in the off-season. The Texans were one of the teams that were in the mix originally before Peyton Manning signed with the Broncos. So there was a report that those two teams that had some preliminary things. type talks about a potential deal that has been swatted down in multiple places, including our own NFL media insider Ian Rappaport, who was on the Rich Eisen Show Wednesday. He said, an account of the alleged trade talks was, quote, not how it went down.

Here's that Ian said, I do believe there was some conversation between the Texans and several teams who have quarterbacks. What it sounds like is that the Texans reached out to teams and tried to see what was there. So, Greg, we'll start with you on this one. Sounds like just due diligence by one team doesn't mean that the Broncos were looking to trade their greatest quarterback of his generation. Well, it's not even the first time we heard about this. Matt Money Smith talked about that he had heard some. From someone who would know.

From someone who would know that there had been some conversations between the Texans and the Broncos weeks ago. Money said that, right? He did. It was on the move to sticks podcast. Well, we try not to bring that up here. What is the bat? Is that something that is it? It happens like five months during the year.

I don't like what it is. So, on one hand, the idea that they would talk makes some sense, because the most important or interesting thing I thought out of this whole storyline was that the Broncos initially asked Peyton Manning to take a $10 million pay cut. And they did ultimately shove a $4 million pay cut down his throat. So if they were willing to ask him to take a $10 million pay cut, and he had to take, they had to have been willing to move on from him this off season. I mean, you can't tell a guy to take a pay cut like that

without being ready for what's behind door number two, which is just say, sorry, cut me. I think that's interesting. And the other part that Money talked about was that the Broncos perhaps considered this, along with the pay cut thing, that they view Brock Osweiler as a guy who's ready like Aaron Rogers was ready. That's the way money put it. And, you know, Rob Sheet told us last January that I can tell you from sources inside the Broncos organization, this is a guy they feel very good about. So we haven't seen much of Brock Oswald other than preseason action, but apparently the Broncos are a lot higher on him than most people around the country.

And look, every team is going to do this at the end of the season, too, even with the changes that they had, they bring in a new coach, Gary Kubiak's there. I mean, of course, they're probably not going to trade him, but they kind of have to see. what's out there and what teams are willing to offer. Well, it makes sense to me that the Texans would call to see what's up because that would be a great situation for them. The conflicting reports really come from who in Denver would possibly have been ready to move on from Peyton Manning. Logic tells you John Elway is the one calling all the shots.

Is he the guy that would be excited about going to Brock Isswiler? There was other reports that John Fox really wanted to. to move on without Peyton Manning, and perhaps that was one of the reasons why when he left, John Elway said, we didn't see things the same way in terms of how we're going to move forward. That makes that a little more believable, because ultimately, John Elway could have moved on for him. He didn't. He's paying him $15 million a year. He's on the team. Well, I think every organization, there's a faction that wants something that maybe the vice president or the general manager doesn't want, and that faction is usually who the reports come from.

kept feeling. I'll go around the horn real quick. Peyton Manning on the Broncos next season. Colleen, yes or no? Wes? I say no. Great. I'd say no. Yes, feels make or break this year. Sessler's premonition about retirement, I mean, he almost got it right here this year. Peyton Manning is very much year to year. He's 40 years old at this point.

I mean, I would think, though, he's either going to be with the Broncos or his career is over. I don't think there's another team. Emmanuel Sanders recently came out and said he believes this is not Peyton Manning's final I think it's going to come down to, can he do it physically? And I'm not sure he can't. Move the sticks is about first downs. We're about touchdowns. How's that?

Wow. All right. Omeron. You guys can hear Move the Sticks' response in his next podcast in 2017. Oh, next week. Moving on. Moving on. All right.

The update out of New England or out of New York where Tom Brady, he had his appeal hearing, of course. On Tuesday, it lasted over 10 hours. His attorney, Jeffrey Kessler, said that the timetable afterwards for a ruling was up in the air. Rap sheet reported on Wednesday's edition of NFL Total Access that the appeal, the post-hearing briefs for the appeal are due late next week. So Roger Goodell will then have to process those briefs, which means no decision is imminent. So it sounds like for the next week or two or who knows how long this will hang in the air, Colleen, Are you surprised that this is something that could drag out beyond Tuesday into days and weeks? No, not at all.

But I think the most interesting thing I saw that came out of this was that his appeal, Brady's appeal, offered full explanations to every question and more context than was provided to Ted Wells, which I hadn't really thought about before. And I'm wondering what other context that he didn't put in that report. You guys saw how long that report was. I guess that's why the meeting lasted so long, but I could see this dragging on. I wish I could see the interactions between Brady's lawyers and Ted Wells, because Ted Wells is in that meeting. Awkward, you know? I mean, they have basically slammed him. There's a lot of funny things about this Tom Brady thing.

One is that one of the first things we put in our article after the appeal ended was that both sides agreed to a confidentiality agreement. and so that there wouldn't be any leaks, you know, about what happened in that room. Within 24 hours, there was an article on ESPN saying, what an amazing job Tom Brady did in that room and that he was so credible. And literally the quote was, Tom Brady was Tom Brady's biggest asset on Wednesday. And then immediately there's another report, which came more from an NFL side, leaked out, saying, you know, Tom Brady didn't give us anything, basically, that he didn't, first time. So everyone completely broke the confidentiality agreement.

The vibe in our newsroom on that Tuesday, everybody had to wait around for hours for it to end. Everybody thought Tom Brady would come out at the end of the meeting. He ended up going out through the underground tunnel or whatever. So that was funny to watch live on the feeds. Everyone in the office let down. And then there was the scramble because there was no leaks initially. And then there was an ESPN report where we heard, obviously, the Brady side of it. And then this wild little piece of an ESPN report, I'll read it. Patriots owner Bob Kraft, who was on a trip to Israel with a group of pro football hall of gamers, sent a sworn affidavit backing Brady.

One source said the affidavit was very compelling. It had, quote, an almost a holy feel to it. What is happening? What are you talking about? Greg, Tom Brady couldn't resist leaking the air out of football. So how is he going to resist leaking information? We are on fire. Is there a drum roll?

The move of sticks, touchdown thing. Miss now. Home runs. I don't know. I mean, nothing ever came out about who was, wasn't a team, two teams were heating footballs this year, the Vikings and. Panthers. Well, that was in a game against each other, yeah.

But that's still against the rules. Right. And they just got fine. Arbitrary, capricious. This whole thing, I have less to say now about this Brady appeal than I did about the JJ Watt selfie celebration video that we recorded this morning. We've done a lot of crazy things. I mean, just to peel this back, we're doing some NFL now videos now.

We're pretending it's week eight to practice for the season, just as a little sample. Greg pulls back the curtain. We know a whole lot about week eight right now. If you want to see some acting chops, just watch Dan Hansis pretend to have a hot take about whether Mike Smith is going to get fired or not pretending it's the middle last evening. Or wooden than the Trojan horse. Sorry, we're going to... That video is more sealed off than the Brady meeting. No one will ever see it.

All right, moving on. All right. I'm going to set the table for the scientist Chris Wessling here a little bit. Jacksonville Jaguars haven't had a 1,000-yard receiver in 10 years. What? Chris Wessling thinks there are two guys that have a chance to do it this year. Second year wide receiver, Alan Robinson, who has had a, quote, unbelievable performance in off-season practices. And Julius Thomas, who, of course, came over from Denver, big free agent signing West.

Why are you so excited about the Jaguar? Who does that? Well, I'm just excited to be able to talk about the Bermuda Triangle of the NFL, you know, one of those teams from the southeast that you're not allowed to talk about because they don't exist. So I think it's fun that the Jaguars, look, Alan Robinson, everybody was raving about him, Julius Thomas, he's going to be the focal point of their offense. Look at their offensive line. They've got three guys who could come in and be starters.

Blake Bordles is fixing his mechanics. Jeremy Parnell they brought in, though, when he was a backup last year, only has seven career starts. And he's still way better than who has. whoever they had played, right tackle. And he spells his name weird. Yeah, that's true. As I never hear it right. At the end.

Jeremy? Look at Colleen. You got the Parnell hot take here. Are you excited about the Jaguars? I want to be. I wish I could, but I'm not really there yet. I like Gus Bradley. I like what he does.

I like Julius Thomas there and Blake Bortles, and I'd like to see Blake Bortles take that next step. I'm with West. The Titans and the Jaguars are both more interesting now. I think the Jaguars are going to finish second place in that division. I think Bordals has a lot of potential to be a really fun quarterback to watch, and I think Dan should talk next. No.

No, I'm saying, oh, my God, you're all in on the Jacks, second place. How many wins? I said that months ago that I think the Jaguars are going to have the season that kind of people expected them to have last year this year. That's seven or eight wins. It's a lousy division. Eight win type of time. I just, I will throw out there that some of us more than others were very amped up about the Jaguars last year.

Right. The same leadership. We have some different players in the mix this year. but we didn't see a lot from Blake Bortles last year. I think the one who was pumped up about the Jaguars is not here today. Well, he was pumped up about Toby Gerhardt, Mr. Mark Susser. That's amazing. He was expecting a lot of yardage out of Toby.

But, yeah, I mean, there's, I mean, Julius Thomas, that's the one guy if I had to throw somebody out there that I'd be the most nervous about in terms of when you look at who are the free agent bus. It's a big drop-off from Healthy Peyton Manning to uneven and unproven Blake Bordles. So I don't know if I don't know if I'm ready to think. that he's a 1,000-yard receiver. He'll be their only target, though. He'll be their number one target, at least.

At least Thomas is a good player. This notion that he's a product of Peyton Manning is just altogether untrue. It's a really interesting young receiver group. If you put that receiver group on the Patriots, those guys could be stars, Alan Robinson and Julius Thomas, and there's depth there. It's weird to see a rookie quarterback

with three rookie receivers that are all pretty good. They could improve a lot. Ahmaud Bradshaw, moving on, guys. Amad Bradshaw is facing a one-game suspension for violating the league's policy and program on substances of abuse. A league spokesman confirmed to around the NFL on Monday. This goes back to Bradshaw, who is a free agent right now, running back, pleaded not guilty to a marijuana possession charge earlier this year. He's recovered from his fractured fibula. Greg, I know when we made that sandwich wager you thought Bradshaw would be given you

some tally when we were trying to figure out how much guaranteed money. It never happened, and this is part of the reason why, I guess. And I'm going to owe you a sandwich because two of the guys we just talked about a couple weeks ago, go give him a job.

Amad Bradshaw and Pierre Thomas, they don't have jobs. They should be on a team. Even though Amad Bradshaw has suspended, he should be on a team. Yeah, we mentioned last time we talked about him, that they would probably wait until week two to sign him because that's when veteran

contracts are no longer guaranteed. That makes some sense, especially if you have a one-game suspension. By the way, I am loyal to Ahmad Raja, a member of the L.A. Greybeards, along with Pierre Thomas. Still in my clubhouse, waiting for the phone to ring. No suspension on my team. Do you make any phone calls on their behalf? Or would you rather keep them? For Colleen or any listeners that didn't check this article out, Dan made an all-star team of older gentlemen who could use some work. Some work. L.A. Graviers.

By older guys that are in Greg and I's case five or six years younger in less 15 or so. And in an amazing physical shape. Yeah, pristine men. So they have a home on my roster. Not everyone's.

By the way, shout out to Pierre Thomas, who gave me a nice little life thrill by following me on Twitter after we mentioned him for go get him a job. An appreciative Pierre Thomas. Are we errant? in the humble brag portion of today's part?

I'm not, there's nothing humble about it. Who's humble? I don't know. All right. And finally, Wes, this is important for you to know. Consider this the teachable moment. And then it's all just keeping in your mind for down the stretch. The Titans announce a new partnership.

Their stadium is now called Nissan Stadium. It was L.P. Field. Very good. Yeah. I feel like you need to whisper that too every time you say. Nissan Stadium. Sounds like a place where champions are born. I hope Damasek's listening.

It kind of fits, though, the Titans. Like a dependable, you know, nondescript relatively. I look, I own a little better than you realize. I owned a Centro back in the day. Like a 92 center. Don't you just pass up the 3.7 million that you got from Nissan and call it Titans Field? I don't know. Maybe they got more than 3.7 million.

Probably. It's a thought. That is what's happening. All right, moving on. Let's keep rolling. We'll get into the Making the Leap entry number 19 on the list. He is, you know, a former West Virginia product, the second round pick. You know, the Jets, they wisely went out and got him. They nurtured him for two years.

And Greg says it's going to pay off now because in year three of the Geno Smith experience, he will make the leap have become, all right, maybe not a Pro Bowl star. But in Greg's estimation, a top 20, back end to top 20 quarter, quarterback. And maybe, just maybe, that's enough to make the Jets a playoff team. Is everything I said accurate, Greg? That's true. I'm not saying he's going to be a superstar. People have to, you know, people came at me that look, this guy's never going to be a pro bowler. That's not the point. He can be a guy that is not the reason why the Jets lose games. He can be a guy who's kind of a middle of the road, Alex Smith or Andy Dalton type, who improves his decision

making. It's got the talent. I really liked what I saw when I watched him. in December. He completed less than 60% of his passes in back-to-back seasons. That's pretty bad. But Chan Galey, if anybody's going to be able to help him, I guess it would be Chan Galee to help maybe with the inconsistency. Chan Galee turned an offense led by Jade Fiedler into the number eight offense in terms of points scored in the league.

He got Ryan Fitzpatrick 60 million dots. We've talked about Chan Galy and what he's done. Tyler Thigpin. I think he runs a system that's very similar to what Gino Smith excelled at West Virginia. And when you watch Gino Smith last December, he showed more in that month than Bortles, I think, or Carr did in their entire seasons. Do you know Smith shows you things? I mean, he can move in the pocket very well.

I mean, he has better pocket movement than a lot of guys who are very good starting quarterbacks, Russell Wilson. He can move in the pocket, but he moves too much in the pocket. I think he... He's not calm by any stretch. When pressure gets on him, that's the big... And he was protected very well in the last month, which was a problem. When I watched Vikings and Jets in December,

I thought there was a major difference between Teddy Bridgewater and Gino Smith and feel for the pocket and just knowing the position. Teddy Bridgewater seemed more like a guy who's going to be a great quarterback than Gino Smith. I agree with that. There's no argument to that. I think Gino Smith can be a solid quarterback, and people treat him like he's a punchline, and I think he has a chance to just be a good, valuable, mid-level starter.

If you watch those last four or five games, he was exactly that level, with the exception of the, of course, the week 17, Dolphins game where he was, you know, Joe Montana and Aaron Rogers combined. So you throw that out, but you look at the whole picture and... But why throw it out? Well, you don't throw it out, but you just... He made unbelievable throws all day.

People are like, well, that didn't count. You know, the game didn't count. It was the season... That doesn't matter. They're going against NFL players. But don't let it suck you in. Why not? Because there's 16 games, and in 11 or 12 of them,

he was crap. So, yeah, he's inconsistent. And also the big... biggest thing with me and Gino Smith is he has showed no ability to shake off bad performances or bad throws. He lets things snowball on him. And that does not work for any quarterback, especially in the market he plays in. Week eight, guys, back to week eight, actually. That was the week he was benched for Michael Vick. There were a lot of low moments. That was one of the worst performances ever. That was awful. If you want to talk about week 17, you got to talk about

week eight when he threw three interceptions and seven passes that got benched in the first quarter. Young quarterbacks sometimes go through these where they reach a low. And I think the low for him was the Monday night football game where Rex Ryan wouldn't let him pass, where he only threw the ball 13 times. Quite an indictment. Right. And they ran it 49 times. And after that, he had four really good weeks. And when you said he's been inconsistent, that's fair. But for that month, he was wildly consistent. I would say he was very steady. And then he had the great final week. He didn't make bad decisions. He led the league in yards per attempt in December. Tied with Teddy Bridgewater.

I was getting physical. HR. In my experience, one of the biggest mistakes people make in quarterback evaluation with young players is expecting a late season improvement to carry over to the next season.

It rarely happens in my experience. It happened with Gino Smith as a rookie. He played pretty well in December and people expected him to make a jump and it didn't happen. A lot of it, for me, is the situation with Galey and a lot of talent around him. I mean, that's a good group.

That's a good group he's throwing to a great defense. So if they're winning games 20 to 17, Gino Smith's going to get some of the credit. He's shown more talent, I think, than people think. That's what I mean. That's fair. He's got a good arm. He can move in the pocket. If he needs to get yards on his feet, he can do

that. He has the tools. He goes through his reads. He shows things that mature quarterbacks show that Jay Cutler has never thrown a receiver open in his life. He never goes through his reads, two, three, four. I mean, Gino Smith kind of sits back there and he does the sort of things that you would

I like kind of a course. How do you think Brandon Marshall and him will be together? Well, they're roommates, though, right off the bat. Great. Yeah. Check. I think the first year of Brandon Marshall is usually a nice little honeymoon period. They're riding tandem bicycles together and sharing rowboats in the park.

I mean, you got Eric Decker, you got Jason Morrow, you got Devin Smith, you got Jeremy Curley. All right, let's play the over-under game, Brandon Marshall. 70 receptions. Over. Over. Yeah, over. 1,000 yards I'll go over

over I'll go under just for the sake of argument all right all right six touchdowns I'll take the over I'll go over

I think they'll feed him the ball that's a nice season especially for the Jets who haven't had a 1,000 yard receiver well they haven't had many in a long time Brandon Marshall's supposed to get 13 at 1,400

even with Decker across the room wait didn't we all agree that he's out of the superstar Star Club? Yeah. So we shouldn't expect that. I'm just trying to be,

keep things. Yeah, I think like an 1,100-yard type of season. That's all I'm asking for. But I'm also asking for Eric Decker to be better. If those two guys have around 2,000 yards combined, you throw a little curly and Devin Smith does something, I think Decker will be better. Decker was fine, wasn't he?

It was just the hamstring. His stats in week, speaking of week 17, he had over 200 yards receiving. It made a lot of things look better, but he had some time to disappear. And he was torching Brent Grimes and Rashad Jones. Like, why doesn't that count? It's a football game.

You know what I mean? Did the dolphins pack it in? I don't think so. They were trying to, they almost won the game. They made Gino Smith look like Aaron Rogers and Joe Montana, you said. It was a pretty bad, pretty bad performance. So Greg says the Gino coaster becomes potentially the Gino scale. Wow.

Could that happen? This time next year, can we talk about Gino Smith as the guy that is the prime area? And if that's the case, Chan Galee gets all the money. Oh, my gosh, yeah. See, I was thinking it was more like Gino is going to be, like, the train that your kids ride at, you know, if you ever go to Griffith Park, for instance. Kind of like the little train ride kids around. It's very steady, a little boring.

You get your $2 worth. Kids are happy with them. Nothing too fancy. The Dalton train? No, the Gino. I thought you were comparing Gino Smith to the band train, which also sounded realistic. That seemed like it was a fair comparison. I think he makes the leap if he.

survived 16 games without getting benched. Exactly. That's my best word. A lot of faint praise in the room right now. It's not about faith praise. That's what he inspires. It's about that people decide on a player so early without, I don't think, watching him necessarily. They just want to say, okay, Gino Smith is the bum. He's a punchline in New York. And, you know, I don't think he's been that bad. Isn't that what happens? The quarterback's in New York? Yeah. Tebow, Sanchez.

And Fitzpatrick's there, too, and he's been with Changelli before. So if things do go south for Gino, it'll be really easy to bench him. The one thing that made me a little worried, one of our security guards here at the company was a teammate of Gino Smith. And he said, you know, initially at West Virginia, Gina Smith kind of came in with the, I'm better than everyone attitude. Is this one of your sources for you're making the lead piece? Security guard at the company? He actually came up to me after the piece because he said he read it. In a dark parking garage?

He thinks he's got to do well. But it worried me. He said he was a little overconfident. Had a little trouble winning the room over at first. If it's Ray Sean, I believe you. You're on it. See? Colleen knows.

Source exposed. All right. So that's Making Leap. And you can read all of our making loop pieces at NFL.com slash making the leap. Total guess is it true? Yeah, that's a fact. Yes. Vanity URLs are the best.

You read all of Colleen's work, NFL.com slash Colleen's secrets. That's it. Yep. It's a diary. I will. You write out more notes that ever... I write a lot of stuff. You got binders full.

Binders. I was going through my binders last night, actually, trying to find week eight stuff. Colleen is fascinating to me because she has, you've told us before you lay in bed at night, like devising fake teams and, like, your mind. You have binders next to your bed. I mean, you are a real football head in your own right.

It's like a beautiful mind. Or like the, what's the show with... But like after he goes really crazy. Well, yeah, exactly. I have maps. I have pictures. It's all drawn. Minority report?

Is that what you're thinking of? No. It's escaped me. It's escaped me. Where in the world is Carmen San Diego? No, that's close. I like this revelation. I don't feel so weird now.

No. And I'm actually, I'm trying to go digital and get away from the binders, but I can't. I'm having a hard time with this. Millennials, refusing to go digital. Total millennial move. All right. So that's it, making the leap. Keep reading them.

All, a lot of great work. And Greg's really. around the NFL debut. Really good work. So we move forward. All right. So let's do it. We talked about this last year.

I'm sure we got everything right. So let's do it again. Let's nail it. Who is not a contender to win the Super Bowl? And the shadowy league figure is, you know, this is not the type of segment that they want us to do. Because you want all the fans to have hope that you're going to win a Lombardi trophy. You want to be the 99 Rams. You want to be the 2001 Patriots.

But it's not going to happen for these teams. Is it, Greg? That's what we're here to do. Squash some hopes. So why don't we just go through the divisions one by one and rule out? And I think we should set some ground rules. If you think the team can make the playoffs, and maybe the Bengals are an outlier, Wes, in your case,

you can't say that they have no chance because then they're in the dance. Totally disagree with you. If you're in the dance, you can win it. There's a major difference between being a playoff contender and a Super Bowl contender. You get exposed in the playoffs if your quarterback isn't good enough. No chance, you're saying. The Jets don't have a chance. To me, this is more about...

I disagree. This is more about teams that have no chance, that it would be absolutely stunning if they even made the playoffs and they have no chance. Well, then we have to call it something else. You know, we did the same thing last year, and you didn't have a problem with it. I don't recall this, but there's a difference between the individual contender

and a playoff contender. By the way, it was Homeland, what I was thinking about earlier in Canada. All right, there you go. I think it's really about being a contend of my chest. I think it's really about being a contend. at all, being a contender for anything. All right, Wes, clearly about to undermine this segment, but we're going to keep rolling. Wes, are the New England Patriots a contender?

Yes, they can win a Super Bowl, Dan. Can the Buffalo Bills win a Super Bowl? No, they don't have a quarterback. All right. I agree with Wes. I don't think they're making the playoffs because I think the quarterback's going to bury them. I think they could make the playoffs possibly. Absolutely.

They're not going to win a Super Bowl. I changed my answer. What? You said, can they win the Super Bowl? Then you ask these guys that can they win the playoffs? Can they enter the play? No, no, I misspoke. Can they win the Super Bowl?

I don't think the bills will make the playoffs. We need to settle on this. Is this, are they a contender or are they a Super Bowl contenders? You're the only one that's not settled. Greg just said we're going to do, are they a playoff contender? Well, to me, it's one and the same because if they make the playoffs, they're in the... Can this team win the Super Bowl is the segment, okay? I'm right out of this.

Cool. Can the Bills win the Super Bowl? No. No. Greg. I'll say yes. All right. The Super Bowl?

This has to be unanimous. Yeah. The Miami Dolphins, can they win the Super Bowl? No. No. To say you have no chance whatsoever to win the Super Bowl. I don't, I think they have a chance if Tanna Hill turns into a star. Sure.

I like to live in a world where just unpredictable things happen because it happens every year. Maybe not lately in the NFL. I'd love for the bills to win the Super Bowl. Sorry, I'm going back to that, but. You'd love for the bills. You wish they would. Yeah. But do you think it's even a possibility?

To me, this is an exercise in picking the worst of the worst and the teams that really have no legitimate hope this season. That's what we should call it. Yeah. So the Raiders, they're out. So this is not who is not a contender. This is who has no hope. Is that better?

I just think we should define our parameters. Is that so wrong? All right. Who has no hope? The Cleveland Browns. or no. Hope? Like a reverse of the AD scale where Dan shot a place up Yeah. Interesting. I get it, but I think we should have a

definition. I mean, I don't know. So we think the entire A.C. But this is the equivalent of me understanding the A.D. scale last June and then not understanding it this June. So the Browns, no hope. No hope for the Browns. No hope. I think, do we agree that there's no hope for the Browns to win

the Super Bowl in 2015? They're out. All right, good. All right. The Browns, that's one. The Ravens, Bengals, or Steelers? Now, Wes, do you think there's any hope at all that the Bengals can win the Super Bowl? No. What do you guys think?

No way. I don't think there's any hope that they can get past the first round of the playoffs. Now, this is one, it's an interesting situation that Wes brings up. I think this is one team, he's right. Of course, they have enough talent to make the playoffs, but I'm not living in any world

where Annie Dalton wins the Super Bowl. We used to say that about Elon, didn't we? Well, we were wrong then. I didn't say that. They have a really tough schedule this year, so the season. Tough division, no hope. All right, bangles, no hope. The Colts, they have hope.

The Houston Texans. No. I don't like that quarterback situation. I don't think they have any hope. No, Texans, no hope. Jaguars and Titans, not ready yet, right? Nope. They're at least a year away from being in the conversation, I would say.

I think the Texans have what's the most dangerous thing, which is too much hope. that's when people get in big trouble they think they're ready to go to the next level when they're really closer to that five or six win level yeah they're closer to falling off because the schedule's a lot harder maybe ryan mallet's going to be amazing i'd be surprised everything lines up for them i'd be surprised if he even plays yeah i mean it's a

suddenly west such a believer in hoyer that he can keep the job all season long no i mean i think mallet will play at some point but i don't i mean he won't i don't think it'll start the season. Yeah, I agree. All right. So in the AFC West, the Broncos, obviously the Raiders will add on this list. We have to, right? The Chargers and Chiefs, two interesting teams for this.

Can the Chargers, there is some hope with Philip Rivers involved, right? Although he's never got in there. I think he had Philip Rivers, that quarterback and some talent on defense, which they do if everything came together. They have a chance. Melvin Gordon helps out Philip Rivers, so hopefully. Greenlight the Chargers. Yeah. All right.

How about the Chiefs? I can't do that. The Chiefs are not going to win the Super Bowl this year. I don't think that just adding Jeremy Maclin having that him and Andy Reid back together, that's not going to solve Alex Smith not being able to get any offense sparked for them. I'll allow the Chief. In what way? They can happen.

So you're blocking him. You're doing a block. They have hope. You're saying hope? I think they have hope. That's good. Andy doesn't know how to run the ball. And he has Jamal Charles.

and he is terrible clock management. I can't believe I'm sticking up for the Chiefs because I can't stand watching them. I think they're incredibly boring, and they're not nearly as good as a guy like Damashik says every year they are. Alex Smith, look at the game he had against Andrew Luck in the playoffs a couple of years ago.

He was phenomenal in that game. Andy Reed, I feel like, is going to have the most underwhelming, like, improved tenure that a coach can have. He absolutely took a situation that was, terrible, improve them immediately, they're staying improved, and yet, is this, you know, is it really that exciting that you got Andy Reid? This team is like watching paint dry.

It's really boring. They're incredibly boring. Andy Reid's proven that he can win 10, 11 games as a coach. Yes, he's pretty good at that. It's like the Marvin Lewis of the AFC West. He's like a much better version of Marvin Lewis, yeah. Let's move to the NFC East, where the Cowboys and Eagles, I think we both agree there's, we all agree there's some chance, right?

Yes. Okay. How about the Giants of New York? I've already seen it happen. I'm going to say, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't believe it.

Greg, we know you know they can win. I don't believe. I can't believe this O'Dell Beckham Jr. Different team. Hate that you have all of a sudden. Oh, I wouldn't call it hate. Is that blown over? Mentally weak.

Like Jay Culler. It was a sign of mental weakness. I think that that doesn't mean that that's who he's doomed to be forever, but. Sounds like you guys made up. I haven't reached out to him. Steve Smith changed the locks on his penthouse. Oh, that's true. We could have the Redskins on this list, right?

They have no hope? No hope at all. Sorry, guys. NFC North, the Packers, obviously, they're fine. How about the Lions? I think they have hope. They have hope, absolutely.

I'm going with history. They're over 49. No hope. I'm not really into it. I know. Nobbed out of a playoff win last year. Who knows? They could have been in the Super Bowl.

I just don't think that they can completely rely on Matt Stafford either. And they have Joach Bell, who's coming off, what, Achilles and knee-gergergerger? They've got Amir Abdullah. Right. So if he hits, that's good. But they need something, they need some type of running game because they can't just rely on him. I have faith in Amir. It would be stunning if they won the Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford and Jim Caldwell as their coach.

But they have enough talent and they have a top-ranked defense. from a year ago and they have a quarterback is it crazier than the 2012 Ravens was that the year they won that was the right but that top ranked defense sue and fairly are both gone yeah all right now oh go ahead you got that's it that's it that's all do you have the story like TD had before well uh another story here's one I want you guys be careful with because I think they have some team of around the NFL buzz which is all good, but can they actually

win the Super Bowl, I don't know, but this is about who has hope or who doesn't have hope? I don't know anymore. The Minnesota Vikings. We love the Vikings around here, it seems like. I would not rule them out. I wouldn't rule them out. There's hope. I'd put them in there. You got Mike Zimmer. Maybe that could be a top five defense with Adrian Peterson. Got some weapons. Criskey young quarterback. I like Trey Wayans, they added, with Xavier Roads.

They got a chance. They're a lot of good. They're a lot of good stuff about Michael Kendrick's brother Eric Kendrick's going to be a three-down starter I don't like all the buzz though for them that immediately is making me recoil from them as a potential team

They got that team of ATN heat I would call them the early not favorite but they're in the mix I feel like yeah yeah you know they're in the mix all right the bear is obviously we could put on this list right yeah yeah all right how about anybody in the NFC

South, the Panthers is their hope to win this Super Bowl. The Saints. Yes. I think any team with a top 10 quarterback and I'd put Newton, Breeze, and Ryan in that place. I don't think the Falcons have a chance. No.

Their offensive line and their defense are still a mess. Yeah. I don't think so either. I'm going to say they have a chance. Blot! If the Lions have a chance, the Falcons have a chance. How are they even comparable? The Lions have a much more talented roster.

I don't know if you ever saw Tony Sparano when he buried the ball, but you need to bury the 2014 ball. That season's over. This is a new season. You never know what's going to happen. They're talking about roster composition. Right, but it's a 53-man thing. You get a couple lucky bounces.

You got the key guys. Well, why not just put the Jaguars in? Well, that's just crazy. I just feel like the Falcons can never get over that hump. And they have these great players. They have Julio there. And Matt Ryan's good for them. The thing is, they only have, like,

Four or five good players in the whole roster. Yeah. We can put the bucks on this list, right? They have no chance. They're out. No chance. Putting them on the list. No hope.

All right. And the NFC West, is there anyone, the only one that I'll even bring up is the Rams. Do the Rams have any hope at all? I don't think they can be a playoff team, so, yeah. I don't think so. I think they probably have the worst offense in the NFL. Based on the teams we've put in for having some hope, I think I'm throwing the Rams in there.

49ers not even going to mention. Oh, yeah, the 49ers. Sorry, I'm used to them being good for so long. I forgot that they deserved to be discussed. I would put the Rams in before the 49ers. I put the, I wouldn't. They're coming out of the NFC West, one of those teams? No way. Yeah.

Yeah, I can't say the Niners have hope. Wow, what a turn of events in Studio 66. Stunning finale. All right, we'll read it off now. Again, this is it. These teams have no chance to win in the Super Bowl. TD, can we get any type of, I don't know. A piano music?

Maybe some doom or little taps or anything funeral-esque. The Cleveland Browns, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Houston Texans, the Houston Texans, the Jaguars, the Jaguars, the Jaguars. Titans. Redskins. Bars. Books. Is this a brogue? Partigners.

You got no hop. It's shocking that the Bengals are on that list, but the Falcons are not. That's 10. The doomed 10. I think the only team on that list that can be happy are Titans fans. They got their name back. They did. They got it back.

They don't got hope. We should bury the list. They're no longer the Titans. Much rather watch the Titans than the Chiefs. All right. We'll never speak of that segment. And again, moving on now. Let's get Kevin Patrick on the line.

Kevin Patrick coming at you. He was at the, or is he still there? Is he home now? He's at the symposium. Greg, just leaving him there, just having him getting all that info. Dan clearly hasn't read a thing from Patrick all week. That's not true. All of his stuff has been excellent.

He's been all over it. Kevin is at the rookie symposium. He's been traveling across the Midwest with the rookies, according to Greg. And let's get him on the line. are you there going on fellas there he is listen to that voice it's great to have you back on the show kevin patrick coming at you what is uh the middle of ohio like this time of year i'm standing in a light mist right now um so i can get self-service outside nice it literally is the middle of nowhere

i looked on uber um last night and the closest uber was 34 minutes away wow how are you getting to the gym He's doing like the hot guy in the hotel move Where he's like Jimmy's up Some type of pull-up bar And then just goes to town for hours You do it on the door man You got to pull-ups on the door There you go and you turn up the heat to 90

Hey I was thinking of you by the way I was watching the True Detective season 2 premiere And spoiler Colin Farrell the detective is a little dirty And to get even he puts on some brass knuckles And delivers a knuckle sandwich It's so good. And I couldn't help but think of you.

Do you have brass knuckles, yes or no? I do not. I don't fight dirty. Numbchucks. No numchucks. All right. Have you gotten into any verbal confrontations with any of these rookies this week? Verbal confrontation?

Or have a conversation? Yeah, let's use that word. I got into a few conversations. Actually, when I got here, I was thinking of this symposium is about, you know, I'm supposed to be a professionalism in your life and work. And I was wondering if that was a subtle hint from Greg Therite. I really wanted Kevin to go to all the classes of, like, how to take care of your money, you know, how to be responsible, you know, get a driver. Really, it might be good for the entire around the NFL crew to go.

It would not be the worst thing in the world. Can you have a round the NFL symposium? I would voluntarily sign up for that one. Patrick, so you've kind of been trailing these guys. Is there anything you've seen, whether it just be like, you know, something that they did? or watching someone speak with someone else in the media that you spoke with them, that kind of surprised you? Well, I think one thing I've noticed that this whole thing

is kind of like the professional version of Scared Straight. So they've got a lot of good guys, like, you know, Warwicked out and there today. Seamore had a great story about one time he almost looked out and left the team. And they're just kind of like telling them like, this is real life now. It's not playtime.

And I thought it was all really interesting in trying to get these guys to think about, like, with things that could go bad, like, the party's now over. This is real, and it's been really interesting from that perspective. That sounds like a post-C-O-More almost quit football. You know, this is the middle of June. Who's C-O-More?

Oh, the Raiders guy? That was a bare, that was the bare minimum. I mean, there's so much more to his story that's fascinating. Who was the guy, because in those scared straight, there's always one scared-straight guy that stands apart from the rest. I know Chris Carter's been doing this for a while now. Who delivered kind of the strongest message where it, appeared like it really got through to the kiddos.

Well, I think Chris Carter probably was that guy. I mean, he always kind of captures the audience, especially these young kids who grew up watching him. I mean, we got to think these guys are, you know, 21, 22-year-old. So they, I mean, when it would first be just a moderator talking about, like, the circumstance, they kind of push back. But then when you had these professional, you know, former pros up there talking about, our current pros, Brandon Marshall was here as well.

And they kind of like, you kind of got to, like, oh, it's real. You traveled around with them at the Hall of Fame. what was that like that day where it was just kind of like Kevin Patra was almost a member of the class of 2015 here I don't know about all that

but you know it was interesting to see them interact with like you know things that they would have not seen I haven't seen I just realized that Marcus Marriota reminded me a professor the whole time. Whitest guy in the group you know he had his backpack

glasses on yeah I saw him at one point getting some paperwork they had some B-roll type thing and he To me, he looked like, you know, the soft-spoken college sophomore going to the 8 a.m. class. That doesn't necessarily mean anything, but it doesn't strike you as like a star when you look at him. No, but here, what my point is, we've been talking to some guys this week, you know, that are more, you know, that are louder. I, for me, with Marriott, that's who he is, and that's perfectly fine.

That's who I want to. If you're, if you're that guy in camera, you're that guy in the rest of your life, that's perfectly fine, because that's who you are when the spotlight shows you are who you are. So if he's a calm demeanor that he's going to be in the pocket, that's fine if he's that everywhere else in life. As long as you're not a phony, that's cool by me. Who did you like the most that you talked with? I still like Shane Ray.

That's my guy from since the draft to now. I still think he's honest. He's taking everything on. He's not afraid to say anything. And like I said, that's who he is. So I don't need, I don't feel like he's lying or faking his way through anything. And I respect that. Patra, always a straight shooter.

That's his whole thing. Ain't no BS when Kevin Patch is around. When are you getting back to Chicago, by the way? Tomorrow night. All right. Well, you have a safe journey and, you know, get back into the gym. You know you've got to be in that routine to keep up what's going on under that journey. 100% true.

100% true. All right, buddy. Thank you very much for taking some time to talk to us. Appreciate it, fellas. There he is. Kevin Patrick coming at you from, what's so funny was. he was so earnest about it 100% true he is he's you know that's patra he's he's the straightest shooter you know I think of the group you just what you see is what you get

and he's going to deliver some earnest Midwest heat you sound condescending when you're saying why I was so shocked when I met him because I really thought he was going to be this big like he is Colleen Jim rat kind of guy not at all he's not nitro from American gladiators I'm with you without a colline. He pumps him up for much. Yeah, he had, like, glasses on. Yeah, I think we were all, you know, those of us who had met and know Kevin Pache, we're all a little taken aback when Dan first started talking about his body publicly and privately.

We didn't quite understand it. Have you ever heard of Clark Kent? Yes. That's who you met. Oh, that would make sense. All right. It's a little sense. Finally, we have one more around the NFL correspondent to get on the horn.

And, you know, again, this is. a new segment. It's a segment that allows Connor or an opportunity. It affords him an opportunity to publicly air a grievance. Really, it's therapeutic for him. It's really yes, it's entertaining for us and hopefully

the listeners. But it's also, as Greg, I'm sure, sure would agree with, it's good for his writing to get out this anger and then he can go about his day-to-day business. Yeah, everyone has to get their complaints out before they can just freshly write another story about James

Winston. Right. So that is why we have introduced this segment and we're bringing it back. It is, Are you kidding me? Connor, how are you there, buddy? What's going on? Hey. Oh, there he is. Now,

Connor on vacation last week. You don't know if he's going to be able to bring the same fire. Of course, he was taking shots at Ray Romano in the inaugural or are you kidding me. But this time around, Connor, you know, I think you have a different message to impart. Yeah, you know, I think before I went on vacation, a friend of mine invited me up to Manhattan to hang out.

And they said, first they said that they were on the lower east side, and then they said that we'd be going somewhere in the meatpacking district. And so I just didn't go. You just didn't go? No, because, you know, it's just like, do I have a compass, like, when I go there? Like, what, I just, you know, you tell me, like, I'm at the corner of bump up and bump up, you know? Connor, you know the rules. When the guitar's squealing, there's no squealing from you.

You've got to let it play out. I was just so, in fury, like, it brought it all back. I was just absolutely serious. So, wait, your problem here is you don't like, um, You don't like information about neighborhoods? You don't like neighborhoods to be named? You just would rather have it be all just Manhattan? You created a city on a grid system, right?

And then all of a sudden you just expect us. Like, I just learned that. Like, it took me, like, five years to learn that. And now I've got to learn, like, something else. I just don't think that's fair. You're changing the rules out. Big Apple? More like big fail pole.

Anything else? Okay, it's very clear that you're saying it's self-important of Manhattan. This coming from a New Jersey guy to name its areas, things like Greenwich Village and Village and the Upper West Side, or, oh, Hell's Kitchen, I guess, would be what you're referring to,

the meatpacking district, Soho, whatever that is. No-ho. Yeah. What's your problem? with the grid system. Right. The grid system's great. You know exactly where to go at all times. The grid system is like the Kevin Patra of

systems. So easy. Straightforward. Also, it is. It's like the comedian Kevin James always had this thing about phone number rhythm. When you gave out a phone number, it was just bum, bumpa, bumpa. And that's what you should do if you have, if you live in New York. It's just not on the corner of

Bumpa and Bumpa. I don't even know where he's going with this now. Wait, so. Although, Conner, you made us smart. I don't think you would like the meatpacking district. A lot of douchey bros there. Imagine dropping off West in the meatpacking district.

I don't know what the meatpacking. Four teeth and six. Just drop them off right there. Who am I dealing with? Collared shirts and $17 gin and tonics. Sounds like hell. Exactly. Sounds like Las Vegas.

Yeah. Connor, what was this thing about you? You refused to use a compass? Well, you know what? Do you use a compass? Who uses the compass? I'm in the lower east side. How do I know where that is? All right.

All right. Fair enough. All right. Well, that's a good way to end it. Connor, anti-self-important names, anti-compass, pro-grid. And, of course, you've got to tag it now with your question, Connor. Or are you kidding me? It's so good. All right, that's it.

Thank you, Connor. That is the. The second edition of Or Are You Kidding Me, it will hopefully, you know, be back next to me. It's really up to the listeners. We love it, and the people behind the glass like it. But if the listeners don't like it, then, you know, nobody likes it. The listeners loved it last night. Yeah, so that is the second edition of...

Colleen loves it. I can see that your face. I like the guitar a lot, too. Yeah. Did you know that Connor's playing the guitar? That's plugged into an amp. That is amazing. Yeah, he's very talented.

Are you kidding me? Yeah. Beautiful. All right, that's it for Thursday's edition of the Around the NFL podcast. I guess, TD, do you have anything you would like to do before we go? Yeah, definitely. You know, podcast MVP, that's how I'm the show. And I got to give it to my man Connor.

Stories, guitar instruments. I'm with it. Wow. A little bit of an upset that Colleen didn't get it. Let's be honest. Well, she's got it before, you know, like so. I don't think I have. Oh, wow.

That's all right. I'm just going to have a chip on my shoulder now. That was awkward. TD just missed a Colleen for Lindsay, who did win the NBA. Oh, it smells sexist back there. Oh, little weird. Well, I got this for you going. A little weird.

Well, that's good. Great. Thanks. Have you made, have you? She's never heard that before. Have you made any negative tweets about women's sports recently, too, while you're out of? Uh, you know what? All right.

That's it. We will be back. Thank you, TD. We will be back on Tuesday, Greg. Would that be accurate to say? No, it would be Monday. It would be Monday. We'll be back on Monday with another two shows.

We'll have another special guest, Colleen. Thank you. This was great. So much for joining us, and we will see you in the Now Studio. This is Dan Hansa, signing off for the Wolf Woman, the mailman, the boss, and everybody behind the glass. Until next week.