NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - OTAs takeaways & mailbag

Episode Date: May 28, 2015

A room filled with heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler -- react to the latest NFL news including Adrian Peterson's contract situation, Ryan Clady's injury and Chip Kelly's response to LeSean McCoy (17:00). The guys then give their takeaways from OTAs (34:09) and answer your mailbag questions.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast. Celebrates good times. Come on. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal.

What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. What's happening? That might have been my favorite money tag ever. That was awesome. Let's give Dan a little credit. it he is on vacation from NFL media and you are here with us are you do you even want to be around us on your vacation no short answer and especially not when i got here and you got these you know

three drabronies show up and suit jackets all of a sudden it's a suit jacket in the studio move nobody tells the old zeuser what are you wearing why don't you describe it i'm wearing a lumber jack shirt you're lucky i'm even wearing a button up when i came in from uh home i was going to wear a t-shirt then I get in here and you pull the rug out from under me in an effort to outhance of me I know you guys got a lot of work to do but this is, I don't like this at all. Chris and I were taping NFL now earlier today

and you know Mark he's just kind of a close horse very professional. He looks like the RA from Saved by the Bell that college is a joke. I mean basically and if they want to watch the NFL now video Oh yeah we're going to be taping a video. Oh that's why yeah to show me up but it's a gray on gray ensemble. Ridiculous low level. What do you even call this?

Like a dad's golf shirt or something? You're very upset with Zach right now, and you're going to write them up. I call it free apparel that you got at an NFL event. That pretty much describes 80%. With a sports coat on top of it. It's a nice look. Anyway, it was a double cross. I have some information I can trade you in exchange for your forgiveness on this issue.

Okay. I'm open. Greg told me on the way to NFL now this morning that he texted his personal hair guy to see if he could get it in it. Oh, that's his, he wasn't in. He got shut down. Oh, Greg. It's grown embarrassing.

Greg, that was, that's both unbecoming of you and embarrassing that the guy was like. Well, he's not at work. He's like, aren't you a blow the liner? Wait, you have your phone number? He gave it. That was a revelation. He was like, text if, you know, to see if it could work out or whatever if he was at work that day. It's not a sneak attack.

I told Greg when he gave me that information. I appreciate it, Wes, you're off the hook. Thank you. I could care less. This is one of those things. It's like making fun of the Patriots for winning too many Super Bowl. It's like thoroughly murky. It's a great analogy.

It's up there with Revis's analogy. All right. So, yes, this is our Thursday show, the Around the NFL podcast, the award winning around the NFL podcast. We've got a big show today. I'm looking forward to it. We're going to look at the OTAs, look back at the second wave of OTAs that went down this week, and each give one take. way that we have and I believe that is what we're going to get into with is this why the jackets

are on is it because of this is this going on NFL now I think we're going to tape actually one of our oh okay surprise to people what we tape I don't know what's happening I just got here we are also going to hit up the mailbag which we haven't done in a while so we're going to see what you the listeners have to say to us and we will reply so that will be cool but before any of that. We've got to check in behind the glass. And TD is not alone, by the way. He's also behind the glass, Sully, of course, the great

Sean Sullivan. And behind TD, my brother, Kevin Danger Hanses. Oh, yeah. Let's be honest. Kevin's waving right now. Kevin's the only reason you're in. If you're on a normal vacation, you would not be coming in for the show, but you wanted to show your brother.

Hey, look, it's the fancy handsis. It's the star Hansis. Look at what Big Brothers got going. It's important. It was absurd. It's important, yeah. I figured Kevin might want to see it.

Actually, this is all about Kevin. I said, Kevin, do you want to see what the podcast is like? If you would have said no, if he would have said, let's go get drunk somewhere, play Frisbee or something like that, I would have said, all right. I like that those are your two options. I know, and you really do have a Frisbee with you. Yeah, we're going to throw some Frisbee after the show. Do you have a 40 with you, too? You know, not yet.

So maybe we'll talk to Kevin at the end of the show. So we got Kevin there, TD. You know, how you doing, buddy? Don't good, man. Kevin's having a good time. I don't think he's a huge fan of you, you know, nicknaming your own self, though. Really?

Is that true? The old Zeus? I didn't, as I took it out of my hands and let Lindsay Rhodes decide between Daddy Rich and Old Zeus, or I think she went with Daddy Rich, but Old Zeuser is the one that feels right still. Yeah, this will be the one nickname ever that no one ever calls you. How is it a nickname? Oh, I get it a ton on social media.

Daddy Rich couldn't be farther off base, so we have to. You guys all look ridiculous. Those are the options, really? Oh, what's your nickname, by the way, T.D.? You keep saying, young Kobe, which is absolutely deplorable. I didn't give myself that. Oh, I'm sure you didn't. And then you're trying to push something on us earlier this week.

It was like sporty or something? Cheefe? That's a real-life nickname. That's what my family, whom I'll be going home to see in a couple of days. Well, that's good. I'm happy to hear that. But old Zeus are just as real as young chief. Chiefie or whatever.

Even more real. I love you, buddy. I love you, buddy. Listen, I don't want to fight with you like you and West did the other guy. Is everything cool there? We're good. Yeah, we continued that debate, you know, involved D-Money, a social media guy, and David Damashik yesterday, and just kept it's ongoing.

All right, that's good. Dialog's good. Let's do some news. Let's amazing your award. Just a reminder again, we got nominated for you. for the Academy of Podcast Awards, and please send in your suggestions because we need to send them a five-minute clip of our show.

So far, I've been getting a lot of Mark Sessler's 50-word description of the Cowboys defense. A lot of Mark Sessler inspired segments, actually. I'm not sure that list would do well as a five-minute-long segment to introduce with the show. Plus, we weren't correct, though, either, as funny as it was. We want to probably submit something where we look like

we're, you know, knowing what we're talking about, right? Yeah, we couldn't really have been farther off base. When I say we also like the idea of just, let's send in a segment where it's all Mark. Five now, eight minutes. The Mark Sessler show. Another suggestion we keep getting is Chris Wesleyan's tribute to Reggie Wayne, that witch is very heartwarming and it was very inspiring at the time. Well, you'd have to put like the Academy Award music when someone dies behind it.

All right, let's go. We'll start with Adrian Peterson, who big news on Wednesday, Mike Zimmer, the Vikings coach. made it very clear where he stood in terms of Peterson's situation where he hasn't appeared at any off-season workout so far. And he said to the media, listen, Adrian Peterson can either play for us or not play at all. So that was really cutting through some of the rhetoric that was coming through the Peterson camp, through back channels in the media. And Peterson then responds on Thursday,

the reason I'm not attending OTAs has nothing to do with wanting to be traded. It's about securing my future with the Vikings. It's business, not personal, and I understand that firsthand. Go Vikings. Greg, you've always said this is about the money. Is it about the money? I love, well, he just said it's about the money. But is it, though?

I love the fact that Adrian Peterson released a statement that basically said Wes has been wrong for the last four shows. It was almost a direct attack on Charles Robinson of Yahoo and Wes. Well, I think that that's... He said, I don't want to be traded. It's about the money. It's a slight oversimplification. It's more about the fact that he has.

no leverage. But I would like to point out that you and NFL Media Insider Ian Rappaport have read this situation correctly all along, and Yahoo and Bleacher Report basically got used by Peterson's camp. Well, hold on, but Wes, I don't think Wes is wrong to point out that Peterson is unhappy with the Vikings, and if he could be somewhere else, he would be somewhere else, but he has, he's out of moves, and then he went on this Twitter rant today where he unleashed on his contract situation.

So he went on an epic Twitter rant. Mark wrote up the piece for around the NFL just before we came up here. And it said, I love people who think they know it all. Shaking my head, SMH, as the kids say. Research, how many NFL teams hasn't honored a player's contract and learned something. Question for the people. Is a contract two-sided or won? Okay, great, two-side.

It basically goes on and on, and he says, you know, teams don't honor their contracts. They cut you if they're not any good. And he made it clear he just wants a little more. Nothing Adrian Peterson tweeted today was untrue, yet it somehow ended up especially controversial to Mama Boy Suburbia beatwriters. Whoa. Well, and our Twitter followers, because we retweeted Peterson, and I got the sent, we got to see what Peterson is getting in his mentions from people responding, and it was some pretty dark stuff. Yeah. People have not forgiven Adrian Peterson for what he did to his son, which got him in the news and taken off the field line.

It feels to me like a bit of a weird time for him to have this. I know, understand he's age 30 so that he could see this. Timing-wise, is his last chance to get a big deal. But the timing, to me, is a little weird for this to be the time where he's going to say, I'm holding out. Again, he has not played football in a year, essentially, a year and a half besides one game. I mean, wouldn't you think he would take his 13 million he's making this year or whatever, have a lights out year and then use that for leverage?

It just seems weird that now he's going to get into this big. contract showdown the timing is off to me well I mean I think I think the point is that that Ian made especially was that it's this year's one thing it's about wanting guaranteed money after this year and he's fighting for it and I think he feels disrespected from the Vikings that all along and he and now they're actually having practices I think that's why he's speaking because he's not at something he could be at this is what I thought of when I I saw the Mike Zimmer quote it felt very Marcelus Wallace to me pride only hurts it's never

hell you fight through that that that's how i felt that's how i took it it was basically saying i know you know what's happening sucks for you right now but come play it's time to play but peterson's not going to go down without a fight it seems like and what west said about the message making sense and he's right he he's complaining that it's crazy how one-sided the power is in terms of these contracts i never mind a player like going after teams these teams would sell their soul to get one percent better. These are the same teams that are hiring Greg Hardy right after everything. So if the player wants to do the same thing and go after the team, that's fine. Just the timing of it is tough for Peterson. But his leverage is that he's the best player on the team by far and he knows it and

the Vikings know it and they desperately want to win and go into the new stadium winning. It still wouldn't totally stun me if he got a little extra money next year. I realize he's not a very sympathetic figure to most people. He is to me. I never liked the way the situation was handled last year he was he was punished he sat he was punished by the law too and he served that he sat and then they sat again because of public pressure and sponsorships and to me that i get why he's upset about that i don't like when people make decisions not based on what they believe is right but based on which ways the wind's blowing and that's what has peterson miffed and i i get that i think that that's a fair point on his end moving on to denver where some very bad news out of uh

OTAs for the Broncos. Ryan Clayty, their Pro Bowl left tackle, in danger of missing the entire 2015 season after suffering a torn ACL in Wednesday's practice. The team website later confirmed Ian Rappaport's report, so he's likely out the entire season. This is the same Ryan Clayty that missed most of the 2013 season with an injury and their offense did fine. Wes, is this a type of injury that is really going to hurt the Broncos or will they recover like they did the last time. That's a very good question. I think it's fair to point out that they were a record-breaking offense in 2013. As long as you also point out that this could be a much different situation because they could have four new starters this year. And offensive lines is all about

continuity and familiarity with each other and all of the quarterback and the coaches. So I don't think we can just extrapolate the 2013 success and say they'll be fine without Clayty. I think it hurts. Well, on top of it, we're looking at a left tackle spot that we assumed initially that Chris Clark would move into the left tackle spot. He played there for a bit in 2013, but the way the Broncos spoke today was that that competition might be open with a rookie number one and a bunch of other guys that wouldn't be starting otherwise. I mean, if you're Peyton Manning, you can still retire. Greg. Mark, holding out of hope. They have a second round pick, Ty Simbrio. So it's a guy that they drafted for this system. It doesn't seem like that bad of an option. I mean, second round

pick that shows they think pretty highly of them. They also have a third round pick from last year, Michael Schofield. We've seen number one overall picks come in and struggle at left tackle in the NFL. That's true too. But what I'm saying is they have some players with some pedigree at that spot, and they're changing their systems entirely. So in Ryan Clayty, you're not losing the Ryan Clayty from 2012 or even earlier in his career when he was a two-time all pro by the time he's 25. You're losing a guy who last year was probably pretty average and is learning a new system and Kubiak wants different sorts of players. So I guess, I mean, if there's a silver lining, it's good for them. They have some players there and it happened in the middle of the

summer so they can go get ready. It is funny that the immediate Twitter reaction was like devastating loss for the Broncos and absolute all pro. And like he has been that guy. But if you look at what he did last year, he wasn't last year that guy. They paid him, they gave him a $50 million contract in 2013, so that has not worked that well. He's also at a torn Patelotendant back in 2010, I believe, in the off season. So he's had a lot of injuries, probably not going to be on their team. It's like trying to get Dan into the lineup. How about both Manning brothers losing their left tackles this month?

Outchers. How about that, Mark? A suit jacket. That's what they pay hands. I'm like this look is starting to. Kevin Danger, you want to know why they pay hands at the big box? He's not even paying attention. He's looking at his Twitter.

Twitter account. That's why, because Hans has brought it all together. Your brother, be happy. He mentioned Eli and Payton Bull. Danger listening to his first around the NFL podcast now. Really? I don't know. Maybe. Last time I saw Kevin Danger, he was in a leopard skin coat at the Super Bowl.

You know, at the Bud Light Party. This guy knows how to get a... It should be noted that he pulled it off, too. He did. He did. The man has style. He was accosted by a flamboyant boutique shop employee outside a cafe where you were at yesterday. I'm not surprised

well. So that's Kevin Danger in a nutshell. Follow him on Twitter at Kevin Hansis, by the way. He's paying me $10 for that. All right, moving on to the Philadelphia Eagles. Chip Kelly, when he speaks, the around the NFL crew takes note. I know this because

in my research before today's show, which I did plenty of, believe you, me, three posts on Chip Kelly's press conference at Eagles headquarters at OTA, and he hit several topics that are worth addressing. Let's start with Lashon McCoy, who created a stir earlier this month

when he said that Kelly got rid of the Eagles, quote, unquote, good black players. When Kelly was asked about this, you can imagine he would have a response. Here it was. Yeah, I've got great respect for Lisham. However, in that situation, I think he's wrong. You know, we put a lot of time in looking at the characters

and factors that go into selection and retention of players, and color's never been one of them. As a follow-up, someone asked, this is the third time someone has made this type of comment about Kelly. Do you worry about the perception? You start chasing perception, and you've got a long life ahead of you, son. That's what it's all about. If you're worried about some other's perception of what's going on with you,

then you can control one thing, you control yourself, and I know how we run this organization. It's not run that way. I'm a little, like, torn right now, because I actually like Chip Kelly. Well, you know, he's the genius. he's annoying, but I like how he handles the reporters. It's kind of fun listening to him answer a question.

He's not a robot. No, and I like him too. And actually, the other thing that we should point out is that he went out of his way to say that he called LaShawn McCoy twice. Right. Deal with this issue. And his agent. And his agent, and that Shady did not call him back.

And the numbers don't support what McCoy said to begin with. Sure. I will never take anything Lashon McCoy says seriously again. It has not been a good off-season. Well, and he had a history of that long before this moment. But listen, just again, you can attack Kelly all you want. He went out of his way to solve the issue and take it on. And McCoy doesn't even call him back.

Yeah, that's a bad job by McCoy. That if it mattered at all to him, that if he believed it at all, he would talk to the guy. It really was just something to say. You know what it's especially a bad look is that most NFL locker rooms are predominantly black. So when you throw out a comment like that, which is a real heat seeker at a coach, and then you don't have like the respect to pick up the phone and answer to that charge. Arch to me, not a good offseason for LaShaul McCoy. DeMarco Murray, who is a black star, offensive player of the year,

and got paid by the Eagles, was quick to point out today, hey, look around. There's a lot of us here. McCoy, he did have a bad offseason going to Buffalo, but he did get that monster raised in that apology contract. Well, he is part of a group of Eagles players. Buffalo Tech. They have their own little group where they say,

we got, Kelly came in and rebooted the machine, and we all got jumped out of there, you know, John Jackson and the rest, but it has nothing to do with color. In other Chip Kelly News, of course, Tim Tebow was a topic of discussion. People wondering if maybe Chip will use his genius tools and change his position somehow, but Kelly shot that down. He's a quarterback. That's how we're looking at Timmy.

Interesting. We're not looking at him at any other position. And then Kelly then kind of bought in a little bit on that talk with the Tom House working out and Tebow learning how to throw a football. you guys will see him today watch him throw i think he's improved he spent a lot of time in the last few years in terms of working on his game so kelly is putting up the front that tibo is an improved passer i feel like we've heard this before i've heard it every didn't we hear the tom house refined motion story the last time his career petered out oh it's a trope it is a trope we heard that

it was improving in denver right after the rookie season when he didn't play it all and then even after he played well they said it was yeah so we've heard it before now with that said i do think he has a better chance to make the team than I initially did when he signed, not just because they moved JJ Kinney to wide receiver. That doesn't really matter. But it wouldn't totally shock me if Kelly just wants to prove people wrong, put him on the roster as a third quarterback, and legitimately give him a chance. Well, and Matt Barkley hasn't shown enough to make that an impossibility. And one thing that they, I think he shot down entirely, which was, you know, worth listening to. He basically said that with the extra point, oh, we're going to use Tebow as a two-point

specialist, that whole business. Kelly went out of his way to say that the rule change is utter nonsense. That from where the kick's been moved, that over the last two years, they've made 96% of them, and that the league did nothing to increase the impetus. Right, to a two-point conversion. So it's not a new role for Tim Tebow. Once again, Chip Kelly and Dan Hansis agree with that. Maybe that's why I'm starting to warm up to him because that was my offseason narrative. I didn't trust. They took a half measure. They didn't make the two-point or easier. So these coaches are going to send out the kicker for a 32-yard. Maybe it is you who has the genius inside. It's not just Chip. We've seen Chip Kelly as his reputation as some eccentric guy and a genius. I think

what we're seeing is just his common sense. Well, and the whole two-point conversion that they would sign Tebow just for that reason was always ridiculous. There were suggestions when we did a post, you know, which players are going to be good at the two-point conversion. Top five players. Oh, you got to put Tebow in there. Well, of course you got to put Tebow on that list. The list was silly to begin with. Well, the list was silly, but then saying, no, you really wouldn't want Tebow as one of the type of. A third-string player. Right.

Wouldn't you want Tom Brady? I know he doesn't run, but he's, like, great at football. And Tim Tevo. One of the best short-yardage runners in the game, Tom Brady. By the well, young shifty behind the glass. Multiple, the genius drop opportunities lost there. Oh. All end of genius opportunities, but are ever, we have.

And some flowers drops missed. I was getting some tweets last. some technical issues so I have our drops are on separate boards now so I can't like just you're anything about that trip home right now aren't the chief that I am that I am obviously but no we have technical issues I knew I saw email genius sound drop young Robert Parrish over there got it young sifty uh you didn't not like that one no that's uh Kevin danger behind the glass TD hates me well if you could feel that hate yeah say hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey see how we'll play that too and you can't do it all right uh moving finally chip Kelly said

that Sam Bradford is on schedule with his rehab, but this is not something we're going to rush him on the field. They said he's on schedule. There's three phases. They're moving him forward, but we didn't see him do much in OTAs this week. This to me, Mark, makes a lot of sense after blowing out your ACL twice.

To me, put him on the Pupp list if you have to. Just make sure when he gets back that knee doesn't go out again, right? Yeah, it's another topic that Kelly showed zero panic on. He said all along, you know, there's plenty of time. And I don't think it's an issue unless he's missing, you know, a large chunk of training camp, which doesn't seem like that's going to be the case. This is the first day where I've thought that there's a significant chance Bradford will not be under center in week one.

Wow. He's walking with a pronounced limp, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer, and Chip Kelly confirmed Mark Sanchez's statement from a few weeks ago that this is an open competition at quarterback. And Bradford, the most telling thing that came out from anyone in Philadelphia today was he spoke openly that this recovery is taking a lot longer than his first recovery. And he said that's to be expected. That's what the doctors have told me that the second recovery is harder.

And it just makes you, well, it reminds you that, oh, yeah, this isn't going to be easy. You just tore your ACL two times in two years. There's no guarantee of anything. What's the short list of NFL quarterbacks that have come back from back to back ACL tears on the same knee? Zero. So that's one reason when there's all this Bradford hype that just plug him into Chip's offense and he's a comeback player of the year and he's going to tear up the NFC.

Well, wait a minute, but no quarterbacks have done this at all. So let's slow our roll a bit on this. Sizzlet drops down. No, I'm just a little. You want something I get tired of. No one's ever had the chance. I mean, no one. Well, there's plenty of people saying, oh, Bradford, you know.

I'm one of them. I still think he'll have a good, he'll plug into that. But part of it is like the first step, and this is what the Eagles are saying. The first step is even Kelly said, don't even look beyond if he throws at seven on sevens last week. Stop all the hype about what he's going to do. Thomas Davis is probably in guys like him.

Probably the best example. The guys who've had it happen to them three times and have returned to play. But we haven't ever seen it at quarterback. Moving on to North Texas, where obviously the running back situation in Dallas is a major subplot as we approach the new season.

Joseph Randall, who had some real success in part-time work last year, had some interesting things to say about DeMarco Murray and what they were able to do. last year. Here's the quote. Murray had a good year last year, and I got to sit back and watch a lot. He said Wednesday

via the Dallas Morning News. And I felt like there was a lot of meat left on the bone. Wes, a lot of meat. Do you agree with that? I don't even know what he means. I don't know what he means. Murray, offensive player of the year, 1,800 yards rushing,

you know, 15 touchdowns. I don't think he understood his own metaphor, whatever he was using. I think he just met there's opportunity here behind that offensive line? I think he meant he left some yards on the table. I thought that's what it meant to.

You know what I thought it meant? And this is something I think Wes and Mark both were hitting on last year that he went down the stretch. He was a little worn down and maybe left some yards on the field. And Randall saw that as, I should have been getting more touches down the stretch.

He should have. Well, that's not a terrible point to make. No. Randall, it was really good last year. I went back to watch him for a now segment we did and he is known as a slight guy. First of all, he's 210 pounds. Two and four.

Two hundred and ten pounds. Uh-oh, scientists warring overweight. But he didn't run like a skinny running back. I would say one of his best strength. He didn't run like a tackle-breaking power runner either. He broke a ton of tackles and made a ton of yards after contact. I would say that was one of his best traits. Context is important here.

How many of those yards were in garbage time after DeMarco-Mari. Almost none. Hold on. I have stats here. He has three garbage time running. Garbage time runs that without those three runs, he's down to four and a half yards per character. Go watch. I promise you you will like what you see.

I quote these stats because I took notes of Joseph Randall, and my exact interpretation of his skill set was this guy's a change of pace back. He's only running for these yards because Murray has softened them up. Murray has 300 carries against base defenses last year, which is more than any other running back except one had in all downs. My favorite Randall runs all year. It was mostly in the first half of the season, the first and second quarter. They were five-yard gains on third and three, where he broke a lot of tax. He had a lot of juice, made a lot of people a mess. A lot of lateral agility.

I think he's a lot more talented than Darren McFadden. He's a stiff. This doesn't feel. This is like 11 p.m. in a party where two people are just going at each other. Bombed out of their minds. I like the, I mean, Greg took a shot at me on NFL now this morning, and then this guy, Pat Thorman, at Pat Thorman. on Twitter, just basically took all of Greg's arguments and swatted them all down.

You go watch the Colts game, too. A lot of his best runs, like, were two, three-yard runs where they hit him in the back field. He gets away very explosive. I have no idea. Jonas Gray would like to have you watch his game against the Colts, too. Bringing it back to his comments, though? Right.

Stupid. I don't care what you saw on tape. The bottom line is to Marco Murray had more yards after contact. No meat on that ball. It's totally stupid. Joseph Randall. How about keep your mouth closed? Nothing about what Joseph Randall has done in the NFL indicates that he's an especially intelligent human being.

I mean, you got arrested for shoplifting perfume. He said it, though. DeMarco Murray is the guy who's tiring defenses down. Right. And then you bring Randall in, and that's, I think Randall probably have a nice season this year, but he'll have to. Greg, but come on. Joe Randall has four-career double-digit carry games. Do you want to guess his yards per carry average in those four games?

I don't think you want to guess, Greg. I don't care. You always say watch the tape. If you go watch it. I watched him all this year. I took notes. Wait, we can't move on, though. He's a role player.

Before talking about DeMarco Murray's unfortunate response to Joseph Randall. He was trying to take the high road here. No. But he said that he hopes Joseph Randall can taste some of that meat this year. I'll just leave it there. He doesn't mean meat. Hey, by the way, that Pat Thorman guy, if his friends don't call him Thor, bad friends.

time to get new friends yeah i like that west is so fired up about this that he hasn't been this fired up since i someone challenged him that rg three might not be that good wow now that's just the underhanded shoot out there's a lot right i've been wrong once when i make a hundred pieces of analysis this is every month there's a lot riding on uh the backfield in dallas in this room that's true west is big on macfadden gregg believes that the next barry sanders is in there and joseph rand it's about what he was saying on nifl now this And Sizzler and I just get to sit back and enjoy it. Actually, we've already...

Fadden hasn't had more than 3.4 yards of carry since 2011, so let's see if you can do it this year. Well, he'll be behind a good offensive line for the first time. We already do have something on the line here for the people keeping track of sandwiches out there. We actually are putting two... I'm putting a breakfast burrito. Wait, what?

That was what Connor wanted. It was him who suggested. He loves those. He wants a breakfast burrito. McFadden versus Randall, yards from scrimmage. I took that, and then West jumped in. The breakfast... No, no, no. Connor jumped him.

Can we work this off air? When Connor... You gotta move on. Oh, well, I'll say, when Connor came to L.A., of all the things that a man from the east could find in Los Angeles, nothing excited him more than possibly eating a breakfast burrito from the huddle. And it's very good. The breakfasts are at the huddle is very.

It is, but I mean, we're talking all of Los Angeles. Dangerhansis knows there's more in L.A. Yeah, we'll talk about it. We'll talk more about the huddle a little later in the show. Moving on, the 10th season of Hard Knox's is coming up, and we'll focus on, Mark. An NFL team in Houston. Yes, the Texans will be the team of the groundbreaking documentary series.

A big moment for the old Zooser, by the way, Greg, was in their press release, announcing Hard Knocks, HBO used one of my quotes. Really? In NFL.com content. Really? Not since the people of Draft Day use Mark's glowing reviews. That didn't go so well. Of his film. It was glowing, too.

You said it was the greatest. football show and history, which is true. I have, I had screen grabs of several of the banner ads that were plastered all over the front page. It was Mark Sessler, Casablanca. No, wait, I think Greg is talking about the quote that you, I was, they didn't give you, I thought you'd be upset that they didn't mention your name. They just said in a thought. No, I'm selfless.

Well, that's a site. Anyway, so the Texans are the team to focus on. I wish you weren't a liar. Yeah, now the drops are bad. So we will be writing our reviews. views our episode recaps again in august and you know we did one one post uh that i wrote us some things to look forward to in the season um j j wad up close is going to be great uh arian foster foster he of the uh lovably ponderous twitter feed uh we get to see him up close you're a fan of that

i'm a fan of it although i'm a little i went to check it out when i was writing the piece and it turns out that he's stopped writing about science and world peace and is now like a big new york rangers fan and that i don't know maybe he's lost the towel he's like he's like wait only if you could be as spiritual as i am would you know the world thank you arian foster it's mid-May you guys are one like the same though you and you and a

that's true well mark doesn't advertise it like yeah say that to people on twitter you know mark's not ponderous though he doesn't have the audience there it is i don't think mark would change if he had an audience did it mark's already and foster is like a 23 year old telling the world that he's mastered spirituality it's like how about you sit down and just so make a few mistakes first. Dan, I mean, I find

this is an interesting show for you. Chip Kelly and you agree on a lot. Arian Foster and you are both Rangers fan. You're kind of a bandwagon. Die hard. Cue the Brady Bunch time to change song. Aryan Foster and myself are in a like a battle to find out who's the biggest bandwagon rangers fan.

Is it possible that we become tired of J.J. Watt because I'm at the brink where there's a lot of J.J. Watt stuff out there. I've noticed that you're at the brink of getting tired with just about everybody. Well, but J.J. Watt could be over. Wait a second.

Watt is awesome. I think so, too. He's one of the better guys, but this show has the potential to do that. I'm not going to be tired of him. I do think Bill O'Brien could come off more likable if you like a sarcastic. He's that sarcastic guy from Boston who's going to cut everyone down a little bit. I think he could have been a little more personality. You know what?

You never want to follow Bill Parcells. You want to follow Ray Hanley. and that's what Bill O'Brien is doing by following Mike Smith. So it's kind of hard to do worse than the Tavis wearing Mike Smith last year, who, I don't know, I felt like that contributed to getting fired. He was so milk-toast on that show. So Davis, Tivas? I don't know what they are.

I don't. Greg and Mark Istuk were discussing this on NFL. Now I have no idea what that is. What's a Tiva? They're sandals. They're like dad sandals. From the 90s. Oh, people still wear those.

Well, Mike Smith does. Yeah. All right, and that's what's happening. Just real quick, though. Yeah, what takes on that? It's only 30 minutes on news today. Yeah, just 30 minutes. So back in a day, I used to watch Hard Knocks with films producers.

And one thing I want to point out that, J.J. Watt, last year, on the Falcon's Hard Knocks. That was probably the best sequence, right? A little two-minute sequence. Yeah. When they destroyed Jake Matthews. Yeah. Exactly. I felt bad.

His sound effects was great when they did the set thing, when they had them wired during the year. Oh, do we have that watt sound effect? Not, no, we don't have that one. Oh, another one. But other than that, look at Dan. Oh, I'm sorry that I'm asking for certain production. Wait, I have a great one. Spoiler, T.D. does not win podcast MVP.

All I got this one. There we go. That's the one. You got problems. That's all I know. That's what I was asking for. Oh, I thought you asked for a hard-knock, JJ White sound effect. No. What am I a monster?

Sometimes. And then lastly, Aaron Foster, probably one of the most funnier guys in the league. I did a piece with him. approval and he was cracking everyone up okay all right i'm looking forward to it and i will not be on paternity leave this year as far as i know so i will be writing all the recaps i look forward to it uh all right so that's what's happening in the news let's move on and talk real quick let's get let's get through this let's talk about this and then get to the mailbag and just being honest let's keep it real takeaways from o t a's oh it rhymes uh so this week of o t a's things that

jumped out at you uh will start with you mark sessler uh from all 32 teams. What really jumped out? Well, this is bad timing because I picked an Eagles topic, and I feel like we just did an entire Eagles podcast, so I'm going to keep it quick. But one other item from that presser today, you know, they challenged him. You made all these moves. Everyone's on you. Honestly, looking at the team you have, is it any better than the team you had last year? And he said, listen, it is a thousand percent better. And then he just ended it. It's like, I kind of think with Chip Kelly, and we mentioned it earlier, that yes, he is extremely, he dismissive, of people that cover the team

to a point where he's not really respecting other human beings and that's fine. But at the same time, I'm kind of warming up to him because he's kind of going all in. It's like this is going to work or it's not and if it doesn't, it could fail miserably. And Kelly's got enough confidence

and he's not wavered from this just to say, I'm riding it out. We're going to do it my way and it's not anyone else's way. It's not Howie Roseman's way. It is me. It works or it doesn't. Howie Roseman is in the basement now. That's right. I mean, he doesn't lack for confidence That's what I like about him

It's like, let's see what happens It makes them interesting It makes me want to find out You're warming up to him You were ready to put him In the Hall of Fame two years ago And I'm with you I'm a huge Chip Kelly fan

Well, from a football side, yes From how he's so dismissive To other people I kind of, I'm not I don't find that entertaining Like some do The press conference from a couple months ago He was a little bit rough

But I enjoyed this one better When someone paves his own way In a field And is that outwardly confident Usually there's a reason why they're confident. I have total confidence in Chip Kelly. West sees some similarities between his own career and Chip Kelly. I don't think I've ever been a paver.

I'm not a trail blaver. You walk the pavement as a mailman. I did, yeah. Once upon time. The old paver. You told the story. You had told a story today while we were getting makeup for NFL now. I just had everyone entranced about a woman taking a brick to the head on your first day.

And the Jacob Price Housing Projects of Covington, Kentucky. It was a tough first day. It was a tough first day. Dan's looking at the clock and his face is melting. No, did she survive? Well, it was. I think I lost my innocence that day because it was a drug deal gone wrong. She was in like her late 40s or early 50s.

Clearly, you know, had seen better days and her son ran away when the incident happened. Her son was probably in his early 20s. And he didn't even stick up for it. I mean, it was just like, all right, this is the way life is in this neighbor. I got to get out of here. Happy Mother's Day. Sounds like a CIA operation. Very nice.

Well, I hope she's okay today. All right, your turn, Wes. Your OTA takeaway. Was that not his takeaway? I thought that was his OTA takeaway. Brick shots? You know, I think after the draft, the one first-round pick that I saw panned the most

was Philip Dorset to the Colts, that he wasn't a first-round talent, and everything we've seen out of Colts practices that he's blowing the doors off the place that he's basically a more explosive version of T.Y. Hilton. And for as talented as we believe Dante Moncrief is, Dorset might pass him as a rookie. I mean, this guy's going to contribute right away.

I think it was a great pick. Their fourth round safety, Clayton Gathers, I believe, is his name, is already playing like their dime linebacker role that Dayon Buchanan played for the Cardinals last year. Their third round defensive end, Henry Anderson was called by multiple pro-football focus analysts as the steal-the-draft. So they've got a pretty interesting first few draft picks here

You're already putting Dorset past Moncrief I think he has that kind of difference making speed That will make they'll find a way to use it It's funny because it was Colts teammates number one that didn't like that pick Well I think T.Y Hilton was a little thrown off by it because he thought he might not get a contract extension But immediately Andrew Luck said this guy's the real deal and he's going to be a I think he used the word This guy's going to be a stud One takeaway I had

It comes out of Jets Camp Where we learned that Brandon Marshall and Gino Smith Have been living together in New Jersey For the past month Brandon Marshall, of course Came over in a trade On his fourth team Has had issues in every clubhouse he's been in

And I started to think Oh, this might not be good to pair him with Gino But then I thought about it always starts great With Brandon Marshall With a new team Everybody loves him There's a honeymoon period And people say he's, you know, changes the temperature of a room in a good way.

We've said that. Yeah. So maybe, again, get another stroke of genius by Big Mac. Mike McCaghanon says, get Brandon Marshall in before it turns sour, make Gino Smith, like Greg has been saying for months, an all pro. I've not said it's going to be an all pro, though I do like, you know. You're right. Brandon Marshall is the modern T.O. Who always had a honeymoon season or two, but usually about a season and a half before,

went sour. I like that. It's weird that they live together. It's like... I think it's good. Not permanently. I think it was just... He was looking for a place. It was like a month or two.

It wasn't going to be... I know. They're not getting a condo together. Yeah, but you learn to... Probably someone's like, you do the laundry today. I'll handle this sink load of dirty dishes. Why are they still dirty?

It's 4 p.m. You know, where are we parking the car? There's multiple cars. You think Ryan Fitzpatrick sees this and he's like, what the hell, man? He's got like five kids and a wife, so I don't know. Greg, your takeaway. Mine's real quick.

I just noticed a report saying how Brandon Coleman and Chantavius Jones, not big names in New Orleans, running a lot with the ones. And it's just something I'm going to keep an eye on this year because it's taken the Saints forever to start getting some young people into that lineup. It's been the same forever. And these are players, we don't know at all, but they're going to be with the first team and that's a fun offense to watch. So those are just maybe Josh Hill too.

Two names to watch. I mean, Coleman is 6-6-2-30, something like that. That's a big guy. bigger than Colston. That's a big guy. TD, did you have a take here? I just saw an IM preview. Did I miss this?

No, this is an old Hard Knocks take. Oh, well, I would love to hear it since it's here. Oh, no, it already did it. Oh. Yeah. No. I am talking with Kev back here, but if he wants to produce a show a little bit. Danger?

I am going to be away for three weeks. That's true. What do you got planned, by the way? Kevin's shirt does say working-class hero on it, so. I don't know when I see it. I am going for my sister's as well. wedding. Oh, Nigeria, Rome, and London.

Wow. World traveler. Where is she getting married? Nigeria and Rome. Really? Is her husband? Is she like a princess of Nigeria? Like a double destination wedding?

Well, no. We're in Nigerian, and her husband is too. And so the cultural wedding is going to be in Lagos, which is where I grew up until I was about 17-ish. And then the white wedding dress wedding is going to be in Rome, like, four days afterwards. I'm upset with a cousin of mine that's getting married in the Dominican Republic. I can't imagine what's going on with your family.

Shortstop. It's like they have to use their life savings to get to these weddings. And it's, you know, got to do it, though. All right. With a fan. And are you thinking about your own life now that your sister is getting married? My life is right where I would it for the most part. All right.

That's for you. Thank. He's got a girl, you know, TV. Glad that's true for one of us. LDR, long-distance relationship. All right. I knew about that in the past, I didn't realize that was still true. Good for you.

Is that still going on? Yeah. Oh, good. Wonderful. Very attractive woman. All right. So before we get out here, let's talk a little nail bag. We asked her questions.

You gave us questions, which is good. That's how it's supposed to work. So let's get going. We'll start here with Parasora Lofus. Okay. At Lofus 89. Can the Seahawks challenge the bill's record of four straight super. Super Bowls.

It's amazing to imagine that the Bills did that. Seahawks are halfway there already. Absolutely. Why not? I think them and the Packers clearly ahead of everyone else in the NFC right now. It's hard to imagine them not being one of the best two or three teams. Single elimination tournament, though. The odds go against it, but there's no reason to think their defense will be one of the best couple in the next few years.

They've got that nucleus all under long-term contracts except for Russell Wilson and he's not going anywhere. It's probably a lot harder to do it now than it was when the bills were absolutely raining points on people, but like you said, they're halfway there. They're going to be there this season potentially. We'll have to see what happens after.

Injuries, that could be. I mean, if Russell Wilson goes down, that could be a problem. Bottom line, we don't know. We do not have all the other. But yeah, it's possible. This is from Michael Berry. Michael Berry 12 on Twitter. What chance three AFC East teams make the playoffs?

Mark? Well, I think you, that's, I have a problem with that because outside of New England, you're hoping that the quarterback situation works out in New York and in Buffalo, and you're hoping that Ryan Tannahill can do more than find ways for the dolphins to lose three games they should win each year. So, I mean, the, AFC North did it last season, but that's with better football teams. I would say no. Answer the question. I'd say no.

What chance? What is the chance? 20%. that three teams could make... That seems high. I'll go 12% change. I think those four teams are... I mean, the Patriots aren't improved,

but the other three teams are among the most improved teams in the NFL. I'd go 33, one and three percent change. I think there's a decent chance. I would be shocked if less than two made it. I'm surprised to hear this from West, though. Because you eliminate teams that don't have good quarterbacks right out of the gate, and you're looking at a Jimo Smith and Matt Castle led football team or Tyrod Taylor.

I'm looking at the rest of the AFC, and... Who are the superpowers? I mean, I fully expect the Colt. I'd be more surprised if the Colts don't make the playoffs than any team in the NFL. I agree. Just because of the division. So they're in. So they're in.

I don't expect any other NFC to, AFC South team to win. The Bengals, I don't expect to be quite as strong because their defense, they didn't address pass rush or in Vontes. Has that gone, by the way? Are you, the Bengals, you may be reconciling. Anything new on that front? No, no. It probably one of those things where you know that there might

still be feelings there, but it's a good idea not to hop back in bed with each other. I'm waiting for, like, in the office, like, casino night. Yes. We need that episode. It needs something needs to come together the sparks. Marvin, West takes that Bengals folder and throws it over the side of the ship. Marvin Lewis

randomly is at an NFL event and chats up West. It just seems like a good guy. There was. That helps to do it. You always got to look at the out-of-division schedule, though. And this looks pretty good for the AFC. So you get to play the AFC South this year. So if you can roll up some wins against the AFC South,

and then you have the NFC East, the NFC, which I would take. There's no superpower teams in the NFC East. That's a pretty nice-looking schedule. It's a good point about the lack of quarterbacks. I would expect they would be exposed in the first round of the playoffs. How about Wes and Katie Blackburn on a country tour, east to west coast, just driving back and forth, getting to know each other?

I can see it. How many people... She's Miss Daisy, and I'm Morgan Freeman? I don't know about that parallel. How many people listening do you think knows who Katie Blackburn is? Well, how about get on your computer and look at it? it up she had the husband named troy blackburn uh moving on james beady at beads 89 asks is the huddle which is our office commissary if you don't know a lot like a high school cafeteria where you

can't sit with the jocks um kind of well we can't sit there anyway because we have to get back to our desk the mark well we're machines and we create content but the question i'm assuming if Willie McGinnis or Ladanian Tomlinson or, you know, Heath Evans, whatever, are sitting, having lunch, can you pull up a chair and eat your salad with one of these guys? Yeah, actually you could. Well, I've never seen it. You could. It's not happening.

But I wouldn't do it with anyone, I don't know. Yeah, I'd rather not. Not because they're Willie McGinnis or Heath Evans. Those guys, if anything, they seem more, you know, because you all work together, it would seem like they would be pretty friendly about it, but why would you want to do that? Right. I'm not really interested in anything. anything they have to say. Well, they've never been bad guys, but we don't know. You nailed it,

though, but no, the huddle in general, he's asking, is it a large cafeteria setting in general? It's a smaller room. It's not well-organized, and you wouldn't sit in there and eat lunch anyways. It does bring to mine my biggest pet peeve of the office in terms of my fellow colleagues, not you guys. We tend to because we're on the same schedule, and the around the NFL guys have two satellite workers, which is, of course, Kevin Patrick coming at you, and the great Connor Orr in his haunted mansion. So we'll usually grab lunch together and bring it back. And without fail, almost every single time, sometimes multiple times, from our walk to

to the huddle and back, somebody will go, hey, you guys go everywhere together, don't you? Look at this crew. Look at this crew. It happened today three or four times when Greg and Westman. We mentioned that it doesn't really bother us. Here comes trouble. Wow, you guys spend a lot of time. You can't go anywhere with that.

It really rankles you, though. It drives me crazy. You guys get a lot of this. There they go. The team. Lou, you guys always at the same spot. Well, shut up. Today we heard.

Shut up. Get out of my life. I think Mark made the point today. Doesn't it depend on who the person is who's saying it? No. Well, if it's someone I dislike, and there are some people, it rubbs me, especially the wrong way. If it's someone I do actually like as a person, it's just disappointing. I think the point is we are let out of the office for maybe seven and a half minute.

and we typically all go together. It's the only time in the day that we'd go somewhere. You guys seem to really want to sit down in the huddle. No one's stopping you from sitting down. What about outside and no sunshine? No one's stopping us or a year-end review. Oh, stop. Yeah, the huddle's going to come up.

One of the listeners to this podcast, also a high-level producer at the network, had a comment for a study. But I like it. He was more creative. He said we reminded him of the channel, whatever news team from Anchorman. Is he is good people?

At least, at least it was original. I do like Dick is a cow. All right, Richard is a count, sorry, buddy. This from, and this is actually a good point from Dr. George Claw at Mad Pick, who will be the first coach to try and ice a kicker on a 33-yard extra point? It could happen. If you think about it, why wouldn't it? It will.

They do it on field goals from that. Well, Herm Edwards is no longer in the league, so that's out. I think the genius might try it. Andy Reed. They should ban icing the kickers. Yes. Is that that hard? They're always talking about making the game faster and more enjoyable for fans.

I've seen the kickers is the dumbest thing that any coaches do. It just shows if multiple coaches do something, the rest of them will just start doing it just because. I don't have anything to add to that. Yeah. Moving on, this is from ScoreCenter, at ScoreCenter. Around the NFL, can we expect a Delaware concept album about the Flate Game? and how it's emotionally crippled Greg.

Of course, Delaware is Greg's goth emo group from about the turn of the millennium in New England. The turn of the millennium. You couldn't have messed that up more. I was in high school, first of all, so that would have been in the early 90s. I said around the turn of the millennium, which is all relative of 2,000 years.

Wasn't a goth band in any way. Emo. And Deflategate, people, want this to emotionally cripple me, it's not going to happen. I have some music that you could lay behind your lyrics, of course. They're thrown of these. Greg, it's not been upset by deflategate at all from what I, from what I've been more upset by it and I'm not even a page rate.

I mean, I'm annoyed about it that we have to cover it. That's the most annoying thing. There's cherubs, just dropping grapes. Small page boys. You know what? I've got perspective. I hear these clowns in Boston complaining about everything. You just won four Super Bowls with the greatest coach.

Quarterback combo ever. The doors of the throne room opening up. Gold and bits showering down from the ceiling. Multiple suns in the universe sky above. The suns actually have a human face, smiling down. Greg lives to 126. So does the entire Patriots fan base go to the Entourage opening weekend? Who has seen Entourage?

We had this conversation. Isn't this movie a movie? Shadow League Fisger is going to the opening night. Who? Who? Marvel. Is he going to a premiere? Maybe I'll hold off.

Well, that's a... Come out with it. I'll hold on. Hey, if you're an adult and you're going to entourage, something's a problem. I mean, who is asking for this movie? Who's going to... Not a word on this. Who's going to see this movie?

Well, probably some smart people from our office. Probably. Smartest person are in the news. I think it's going to bomb. I would like to predict if, you know, some sort of... We should have a sandwich on how this movie does. It's going to make over $30 million, and I'd put a sandwich on it. In the first weekend.

Greg is good with the box office. I would see that. I would see that. I would never go against Greg in a box office prop. I'd do that. Well, I've beaten Greg in box office props. He has it down to a science, though. Yeah, that's what he thinks.

All right, Tom Bissett. We've got time for a couple more. Does anyone think the Raiders have a chance of not being bottom of the division this season? Nope. No chance. Do they have a chance of getting out of the seller? So they would have to beat the Chiefs or the Chargers, most likely? I think it has to be the Chiefs.

I'd say no. I think they have a chance of pushing the ball past the 40-yard line this year. it's the NFL they have a chance to come in third place injuries could change the bottom of that the chance there is that something goes really wrong with Kansas City and San Diego and they win three or four games or Derek Carr's good six if Derek Carr is good they can win seven games if he makes a junk it's not crazy it's not a crazy thing Tyrod Taylor's got the bills come into Super Bowl

their defense had some moments last year and they look better overall this year it's not a terrible defense it is a terrible offense though until they prove otherwise all right this from rohan sharma at mr roham sharma i'll throw this one out to you guys i don't really have a dog in this one

which historical world leader is closest to you in personality anybody have somebody that jumps out to our own personality or to anyone else's we could which historical world leader is closest to you in personality i go gregg and uh margaret thatcher you're supposed to do your own

Oh, I don't know any world leader's personality well enough. I like that Mark went at Greg first. I thought we were supposed to go around the room or something. I could see there's shades of Harry Truman and Chris Wesley. You don't even know that makes sense. That makes sense. Gumpchin. Give him hell, Harry.

Drop the bomb. I wouldn't drop the bomb? Listen, it's a strong take to drop the atomic bomb. There's no connection whatsoever. D.D. You got one for yourself? Historical, not quite fictional idea, though President David Palmer I don't know, help me out

He's the president from 24 He was assassinated, he was shot in the throat Well, you made personality-wise Spoiler alert, jeesh Oh, please I was gonna go Oh, sorry, Sully Guys still watching 24

Doesn't want to know how it ends Dan Hanses and Millard Fillmore I don't know who that is off the look at it up How about Mark Sessler and Angela Merkel No, I don't think so Who's Angela Markle? The Chancellor, Germany? That was Tony Dan's maid, and who's the boss?

Yeah, I don't, that's... Dan, that's Greg attempting to come back with a quasi-Margaret Thatcher. No, I had that one picked out. That was going to be my own choice for myself. Really? It meant nothing. I don't have no-no anything. I don't know.

If you don't hang out with world leaders, it would be you. Finally, this is from Indy Sarah, one of our favorite Sarah Peters. I'm guessing if they presented with 10 songs, and asked whether they're from jock jams or not, Dan Hansis would win. We might have to do a competition, but actually, you know what? I don't know if I would know any jock jam songs.

They were all kind of the same. I mean, I know some from the commercial campaign that was relentless. I had a longtime friend, still a friend, but in college he used to, before we went out at night, he would take his boombox into the shower and put this jock jam CD in the boombox, play it loud, take like a 30 minute shower and then shave his entire body. True story.

A friend. All right. It's been a great show. He just took out his lipstick and crossed out people to kill today on the side of his wall. There's a party up in here. Wahoo. Andy Sarah's little girl. There you go.

Nice. All right. So that's it. That's what's in the bell bag. And thank you for everyone who took part. Did you ever, when he got out, you were ever like, hey man, what's up with that? 30-minute shower where you listen to

jock jams and shave your old body Yeah, that's all we ever Talks about it all the time Just the general question It was like the most famous thing about him Amongst like the big group of friends It's probably still the most famous thing about him Yeah

Dude love, good man All right All right, fair enough All right That's it, hey TD What's happening? Do we get you any more before Nigeria? This is it guys

The last meeting on the show For another two, three weeks And the last podcast MVP You ready for it? Mm-hmm. Good luck to your sister, by the way. Oh, thank you. Nice play, Mark.

Mark, trying to get that vote, last one, stuff in the box. Mark, looking for that elusive first MVP. I love realness, and Chris Weston kept a real with a story about the lady. I love how pissed off Mark had. No, it's just an absurd because it's already cooked. It's in the books. You don't even care what happens during the show. You admit you're not even listening.

So you already know you're going to pick someone to agitate everyone else. And you'll keep once in a while picking Dan so that it's, stay as a segment. Everything you said is true. All I'm saying is everyone's wanted, except one person so far. Anyone with a mind listening to the show knows

that the books are cooked on this. She's right. All right. Congratulations, Wes. Thank you. I'm going to put that on the mantle. All right. And thank you. Kevin Danger. Did he enjoy the show? Great show. All right, good.

Kevin Danger and I are going to go play Frisbee now. We will be back next week with two shows. Sully Behind the Glass is a rumor. We're looking forward to that. So Dan Hans is signing off for the Sizzler, the Mailman, the boss, Tay D and Sully, and Kevin Danger behind the glass. Until next week. Because a year from now, when you're kicking it in the Caribbean, you're going to say to yourself,

Marcellus Wallace was right. This is an I-Heart podcast.