NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Over/Under: 2017 rookie class predictions

Episode Date: May 8, 2017

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Colleen Wolfe, & Gregg Rosenthal – recap all the latest news from Around the NFL including Jay Cutler taking a job in the broadcast booth with Fox, and Saints center Max Unger out 5 months after undergoing foot surgery. Then the heroes break down expectations for the 2017 rookie class in a friendly game of over/under. Plus...we dip into the mailbag and answer some of the most pressing questions from you, the fans!Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's usually what I do. You are hey, hey, hey. Or hey, gang. She copyright that. Yeah, hey, hey. Nobody else is saying that. We got to start selling some merch. And this one I picture, it would be a T-shirt with a giant.

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So Connie was kind enough to jump in and do today's show, which is a nice one, a nice, solid show. If you're looking for a pre-show grade. How do you feel? I mean, honestly, we got Colleen here, which, Colleen, you know, I got endless respect for you. Greg just got up again. Greg is leaving the studio actually right now. Why are you doing that? Where are you going?

Oh, he has to get some water. That was just a bizarre move. Well, I'll give Greg this. He gave me a look like he knew it was not going to be received. You know, be pros, guys. You know, I get up for 10, 15 seconds. There's many parts of the show where I don't speak for 10, 15 seconds. So if I wanted to go get some.

Not that many. Oh, you guys, you Josh and Rob. Greg just softing softballs to the rest of the room. You know, I wanted to pick up some water. For the first time, I was about to hand out a really nice pre-show grade, but one of the four people on the show getting up and just walking out of the room, I got to knock it down to a B-minus. Oh, got to knock it down.

Anyway. Still passing grades. Still passing grade. Today's show, we will rookie class. we all examined the rookie class and we're going to do some over-unders and I'm starting to realize that our show there's a lot of elements

Greg-like elements put it that way that are creeping into the show in terms of these segments we're going to do over-unders for rookie production so any kind of big names that are out there that teams and fans are excited about

we're going to take a shot going around the room predicting what kind of production they have in years one and then the rest of us will either agree or refute one of those things it's one of those type of things uh we'll also uh open up the mailbag always fun to open up the mailbag and interface with the listeners interface we're going to interface with them huh must interface with listeners it's like binary code like zeros and ones uh and we're going to do some news to do that we're going to go behind the glass there she is the first lady of the around the

NFL podcast fired up young woman listen I learned something about Sydney today by the way all smiles today no that's not that's something else going on we did a network hit it was a little bit bumpy and and maybe some things happened and Sydney was a house on fire and I said that's the fire that I want in my producer yes I mean thank you that's not the fire I want in my life I got it she was fired up I don't need that in my everyday life it is 23 and I feel like we've already been here for 15 hours. That's true. She, you know, and that's good.

Cindy, this nice girl, she goes to Disneyland a lot, very, you know, mild-mannered and nice to people. But don't get on her radar. She's got a radar. That's what I learned to that. Well, I think there's probably also a, to us, a mysterious total dark side that we don't know. Right.

Like many a Disney character, very sweet. But then if you get her upset, she can just send her icicles at you out of nowhere. I feel like she's fitting in more, too, now. Just like the anger that I'm seeing. I like it and I feel like it's perfect. Did we do this to you? I definitely think, yeah. We are attached to things that have done it to her.

All right, let's listen to this. Hey, guys, we got to get revenge against these guys. Remember what they did to us last year? I don't know if anybody else in this room saw that. I wrote about it on the end around, Spice Adams, who had a nice, career with the bears and where is he lions was he i think so anyway uh now he works i believe in the lines organization and uh he released a video um sitting in a locker and kind of acting out

the different type of like players that he played with in terms of what their attitudes are like in the locker room before games and that one was listed under the subhead of like corny team captain says like embarrassing things uh funny stuff spicy Adams first name really anybody Ted Anthony close that was actually sort of Ted is short for Anthony in some circles all right let's do some news and we will start with Jay Cutler and Mr. Jay Cutler good for him because he decided that he is going to actually become a broadcaster now he's going to follow the Tony Romo path it was reported.

It came out on Friday morning. He will leave for, leave the NFL for Fox Sports TV where he will go in the booth, the second team there, which it's a solid team. It's, I know Charles Davis, an NFL network guy is there. Kevin Burckhard. Kevin Burckhard, who's kind of a rising star in the industry. And now Jay Cutler will join that team. This comes at a time, Greg, where the offers were not coming for Cutler.

and he decided to take this job. Cutler appeared on the Waddle and Sylvie show in Chicago, and he was asked if he believed this move to broadcasting was permanent. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I would think so. That didn't sound convincing. I mean, I didn't know if I'm going to be on trial today. No, you're not on trial.

Yeah, I mean, it is. I don't really see anything else happening. I mean, I'm really, I'm happy with where I am, you know, in my life and really really the future going forward. So, yeah, we can go ahead and stamp that. It's permanent. So his decision making seems like it's improved, huh? I wish you went to liar. I mean, that sounds exactly, that's exactly the guy that just took this job to have himself set up.

and will easily turn his back on that job for a better job that involves throwing footballs for a living. That's how that guy answers that question. Well, and his agent during the draft days ago said that he was fully on board with potentially playing again. So, I mean, I think you're kind of seeing someone who's career if it's over is suddenly over.

You weren't planning for this from months and months ago to suddenly you're in a whole new career and it is strange to have to answer questions about that. He got a nice spot, first of all, and he's already got a bit. big time fan in our Chris Wesseling, who's been tweeting about just listening to Cutler, thinks he'll go from like his most despised player on the field to maybe one of his favorites in the broadcast booth because from the early sounds of it, it sounds like maybe he's going to be a guy

who kind of like his reputation doesn't give a flying F and just says what he thinks. Like he was saying, you know, don't, don't play Mitchell Trubisky. Like why throw him into a tire fire if things are going downhill and he's a smart guy? Maybe it'll be a little sardonic. I mean, it might be kind of fun having Jay Culler. What if he outdoes Tony Romo? He reminds me of Peter Gibbons from Office Base, the character where he's like,

I don't like my job. I just don't think I'm going to go anymore. Like, that's him to a T. Yeah. I mean, Charles Davis, who I think he, joining that team versus having to be under the total media spotlight on national games, game after game when you're starting. Charles Davis is the first person to tell you

that he did not think he was the best announcer first year or two when he was doing this, that you grow, that you really have to learn to do it. And I think that it's a good fit for Cutler. And I agree with Greg that I would not be surprised if out of the gate. Cutler was more enjoyable, more bizarre, and more honest than maybe Tony Romo will be. Isn't it a little weird, though, that everyone is like, that's everyone's take on this? Because Tony Romo to me is, I think, an incredibly smart guy. No one's questioning that.

But Jake Cutler has the more intriguing personality. Who would you want to go listen to it? Right now. That's kind of what I mean. All of a sudden now, after 10 years of everyone just beating up on the guy for having a horrible personality, and everybody's like, well, but actually he has a good personality. It's like, what? It's not a good.

I think, let me just say, I'm going to say there is a fairly decent chance he's terrible at this as well. That's fine. I think it's different than saying. Should be said someone has that opinion. It's different than saying, here's the personality we want in our starting quarterback. And here's who we want, you know, going and being honest and taking people down announcing a football game. actually lends itself better, I think, to being on air and being intriguing. I hope that he's just, like, really dry and super cynical in the boot.

Right. That's the thing. He was always, I never, I was always a Jay Cutler fan. I would say certainly the biggest one in this room. And his standoffishness never bothered me because I thought it was kind of like a fun personality type. He was who he was, which would be, you know, a good skill. And maybe now thinking about it in terms of his answer that he would play again, maybe they're putting him in a situation where, well, if he got a job, He could jump out.

They could just leave. I would think you have Charles Davis. In the contract. Yeah. He probably worked that in because it just doesn't sound like that he was definitely out. The way Romo feels like it's a different situation to me. Also, he was asked about, this is also on Curtis and Sylvie. Was asked his thoughts about his replacement in Chicago or his eventual replacement.

We'll see Mitch Trubisky and whether he should be thrown right into the lineup and whether that would be a good idea. Just going downhill, I mean, I don't really see any reason to play the kid. I mean, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of people calling for his name because you draft him at 2 and you draft him for a reason, and that's to play football and win games. But, like, for what? So he can go out there and take a beating, and, you know, he can get off to a rough start. So there you go.

Jay Cutler, that's a take. I like that take. That's a good take. I mean, bad teams do this when they over-draft and they don't have a quarterback or there's some quarterback issues. you take a rookie and over the course of a year or two essentially completely destroy their career. And then someone else has to come in and start over or reset the mentally. Well, Jake Cutler had the opposite experience, if I remember correctly,

which is that he joined a team that was right in the middle of a playoff race. But they were kind of going downhill at the time and they just threw him into the middle of a playoff race at 7 and 5, something like that his rookie season didn't end up going though i think he lost a couple of games down the stretch did you guys talk by the way about cutler on thursday in terms of that he is retiring because this is did you not listen to the pod great well i was on most of it but i missed the top of it i did not listen because i'm just saying should we should we pour one out here for j cutler any any final thoughts on the entire jay cutler experience well well i'm a little confused right now Our podcast published last week on Thursday

and the news came out on Friday. Okay. So we didn't talk about it last week. I'm just saying the man was in our lives. This is a perfect tribute to him. This is great. We could get some like some music going. This guy was in our lives for 11 years.

We didn't even mention. I almost felt like him retiring ended up being like the B story to him. I don't think he's, I don't think he's done. So like I believe he will. play football again. Not everyone who's in our life for 11 years is thereby are asking either. Jay Cutler will rise from the ashes. We will see him again on a football field.

32,000 passing yards in his career, 37th all time. How many special moments that he have, though? I know he had some Octobery special moments, but I don't know. He's, to me, like his special moments for other teams. They were mostly in Denver. His special moments were early. I mean, 2007, if you had told me, you know, after he put up, or rather 2008,

after he put up that 4,500-yard season that he was going to have this career, I would have been shocked because at that point, there was talk that he's in the top five quarterbacks in the league, like one of the guys that you would want moving forward, just all the talent in the world and really exciting. Those Broncos teams were exciting. They weren't always big-time winning teams, but there was a lot of primetime games where they had comebacks,

they had the snow game. I mean, he was a guy who, to me, got me really excited to watch football. And then when he went to Chicago, it all sort of just. Well, and Josh McDaniel, who was dispatched from New England to destroy the Broncos over the course of two seasons, wisely got Cutler out of Denver in time for returning back to the Patriots. So well done by Josh McDaniel. And I was in Chicago over the weekend. And it reminded me when I was there that my only other time to Chicago was September 2009,

which is right when Cutler got there in that big trade with the Broncos. and he was viewed as the savior for the Bears. He was on every magazine cover. He was seen as this guy that they, not only was this cannon armed quarterback that was going to take the Bears back to the promised land, but he was also a guy that they could build around in terms of like a media-wise, a good-looking guy.

Kristen Cavalieri obviously thought so. And it just, none of it ever came together in Chicago. But I think we might see him again. A lot of coaches love Jay Cutler. I mean, they really go to bat for him. for the skill set he brings as a quarterback. He's a good player. But I'll ask you this.

How many quarterback's got, how many quarterbacks got more coaches fired? Right. More coordinators fired. There's a laundry list of wreckage behind them. It's one of the unfair things about being, you know, starting quarterback is by any other standard, he was an incredible success and a great draft pick. I mean, imagine, like, think of the quarterbacks. I'm trying to think that were drafted in front of him.

I mean, here was a guy from Vander. Bill, who was totally beaten up in college, who was kind of an under-the-radar guy in that draft process, and he ended up going 11 overall, which was very high. But that was behind Vince Young, behind Matt Liner, who are superstars. They're out of the league years and years before that. He's putting up 4,000 yards a season for 10 years. He gets banged a lot because he's just kind of an average starting quarterback. But if you have that kind of a career and you play any other position, you're thought of as a

pretty good player. And I will just say the one thing with he does have that reputation as the coach killer. And perhaps he was. I'm sure he was an easy guy to coach. It's not him alone. But he gets, it's all put on him in that sense. Like, all right, did he get Lovie Smith fired? Maybe.

I'll give you that. Did he really get Mark Trussman fire? Was Mark Trussman really not supposed to be a head coach in the NFL? Do you really, like, do you think that Josh McDaniels was a guy at that time in his life should have been a head coach? But these things get put on Jay Cutler because he was always the guy that you could kind of throw all the blame on. At the same time, you made a great point, how many special moments. And it's unfair, but this is the way the quarterback position works. You get all this credit when your entire team wins.

You get overly criticized if you're Jay Cutler and a bunch of coaches get fired and the bears are boring. But ultimately, Jay Cutler, if you put a top five list of the most electrifying moments and galvanizing scenarios by Jay Cutler, you struggle to do it. And when you talk about how long of a productive career he's at, why are those moments not there? Well, in terms of team success and exciting games, absolutely right. Now, if you made a top 20 throws of the last 10 years and you take Jay Cutler's best 20 throws,

that might be any other quarterback in the NFL's top 20 throws. That's why I liked him because he did make those throws. No one made crazier passes. When he was good, he was great. Stafford is kind of the new Cutler. Stafford's a little bit like that. Like, he can make some beauties that you're just like, I can't believe he did that.

It's just like he got way too much into his own head, I feel like. So now you got him talking about Mitchell Trubisky and how he shouldn't go out there and play if the team's going downhill. But meanwhile, Mitchell Trubisky has only had 13 starts in college. This guy needs the experience no matter what. I know what he needs to put him out there. Like, especially for a guy with 13 college starts, you don't want to throw him into a tire fire and potentially mess his head up.

I get that. We've seen that happen to so many quarterbacks. Let's move on. Dan, I apologize. I wasn't even planning that the sidetrack of the Jay Cutler thing. It was really thinking out loud, though. This guy, he meant a lot to me as a friend.

Greg is not a big fan of what we had planned at the tail end of the show. And so he was coming up with ways to get that thing. To get that thing, Matt Damon. Not big on the fan. How did I put it earlier? It was not interaction. It was the interface. Yeah, you don't want to interface with our fans.

I mean, you've made me into this. evil puppet master. I didn't think it was actually, giving me a lot of credit. It was skilled broadcasting on your part to throw a surprise segment on the host that adds an extra 8 to 9 minutes to the show. Let's move on to the next topic in the news. It was a good

topic. It's a little surprising we didn't come up with talking about this as an idea before the show. During one of our longest pre-show meetings in history we somehow did not come up with that. We have to re-examine the pre-show meeting. I think. I had mine on the 4-05. Only like 10 minutes.

Out of 45, we're spent talking about the show. Well, don't tell our employer then. The Saints have a problem. Starting center, Max Unger, recently underwent surgery on an injured foot and will miss about five months. And if you do the math, that's going to put them right up against the regular season. That report came from Rapsheet. Unger, who came to the Saints in that big Jimmy Graham trade in 2005,

has started 31 of 32 possible games in New Orleans. He will start the season on the physically unable to perform list. Rap Report added 30 years old, two-time Pro Bowl. Or big loss, Mark. Yeah, I mean, there's also, we don't know that he's going to miss an extensive amount of time, if any, when it comes to real games. But I would say that you look back on the Jimmy Graham Unger trade that the Saints couldn't have asked to get much more out of Unger than they did.

He's given them exactly what you thought you'd get. But if they're really in a pinch, I guess Nick Mangold's still out there. You know, there are options. Yeah, that's true. I mean, and Unger dealt with a foot injury last December. He missed a game because of it. I don't know if it's the same injury on the same foot, but he's been key to their passing attack.

And also with this run game, now you have Mark Ingram and Adrian Peterson there with the rookie Alvin Camaro that they drafted. So it is key that they do get that guy back and healthy. No, that center relationship with Drew Brees and that offense, it's a big deal. And their offensive line, Wes was talking about it a few weeks ago. was sneaky underrated, good offensive line,

one of the top run blocking lines in the league, according to football outsiders. And you would have to say, you know, he and left tackle are the two key spots there for them. Meanwhile, on the throat of ease, Tom Brady. You know what time of year it is. It's Kentucky Derby time this past Saturday.

And this has become a Tom Brady event. It's almost now it's like, the Tom Brady's day out featuring the Kentucky Derby at least for like many media outlets and then Tom really leans into it because if you follow him on social media all his bros are hanging out

with him. It's a shot with him and David Ortiz his little twins that are with him all the time, Edelman and who's the other guy? Amandola. Amadola. How dare you. And, you know, taking group photo shots and everybody's having a lot of fun.

Brady's wearing a hat that makes them look like. Like the guy from Silence of the Lambs. I was talking with someone, I'll call him a shadowy league figure who did not want to be, want me to say who he was. But he brought up a good point to me that you see Tom at these events. And is it fair to say that Tom potentially goes all out of the Kentucky Derby because it might be the only time he's allowed out of the house, really? Oh.

And he cuts loose a little bit. Really? Yeah. what like you in palm springs I mean any guy kids can relate to that theory but I think Tom Brady's got to have some some leverage in that scenario

he's not a beaten down guy you know looking for work so what's the theory really basically that that he lets it all hang out because there's other than that he's under lock and key in the off season it seems there's some there's some speculation

let's just say people out there can buy that streets talking a little bit about it you don't like this guy I'm not buying it at all Tell me what. Because I think Tom Brady can basically do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, and he probably just wants to be at home with his gorgeous wife and his amazing mansion.

And they're chef. He basically told Peter King as much. He's like, you know, these other guys that go out, that's fine. He's like, it's not what he wants to do. I think Tom Brady is a guy who's completely wired differently than most dudes anyway.

I think there could be something to this theory in that. All right, you've got two heavy hitters here. I mean, almost unparalleled in terms of their relationship. During the season, he's talked about, he doesn't see those kids. You know, he's not like the stay-at-home dad, he's not around. He's everything, like every second is dedicated basically to being better on the football field. So, yeah, look, I know they have lots of help, but ultimately his wife ends up taking the bigger part of the arrangement there during the season. The second the off-season hits, and we know about this a little bit.

bit second the off season that's like all right now it's daddy time next six months it's it's it's it's time for you now you take the league it's the Kentucky Derby is his cheat day it seems like yeah I mean from that I don't agree I'm sure that they have nannies well I know yeah because jazelle is like scrambling barefoot around the house amount of help they have is like I have I struggle to have a lot of sympathy for what the setup must be but anyway it feels like someone might be projecting with this I was going to say it but I this individual also said it here to him that Tom Brady couldn't handle his drinking because he's the dad that isn't allowed to cut loose and then when he does he just can't he also I would say is

well a couple years ago he was lit up at the kid they want the same night as the Mayweather fight Mayweather fight he was lit up and it was fascinating to watch and but I I don't think this is a big drinker with a huge tolerance that's tying one on every night to begin with I live in a glass house that's all I'm going to say Tom Brady is is, you know, a shaky drunk potential. That's all. I mean, we're all going to get back to all these Tom Brady threads. Can you cut that out?

Can you cut that out? Implosion of his career. We need that as a sound dropping and also send it to social, Sydney. Tom Brady is a crazy drunk. Yeah, a little, not like odd drunk, like he has a drinking problem. But like, he's the buddy when he gets out there and he, you know, you know, you have to keep an eye on him because he's not used to this and doesn't handle his liquor too well. Yeah, but he's probably the most fun then. the biggest wild card, potentially.

Jimmy G. was there too. Some people. I noticed that, like, Jimmy G. is there, but he's not featured as prominently in those pictures. Oh, Jimmy's on the outskirts. Yeah. That's what's happening in the news. All right. Rookie over under time.

We'll go around. We're going to go around. Your chair is very squeaky. I know. It is. A new thing, I think. Well, you should just give it to West when he comes back. some WD-40.

Not today. I'm not asking for anything. Not today, Sydney. Take your time. Put your feet up, relax. Don't worry about it. Wise choice. Big picture.

You know, it's not typically this chair. I think it's a different one. You come into these studios sometimes, and whoever was here before just leaves it in a, like, a Vietnam-esque war zone, and the chairs are all over the place. So it'll be someone else's chair next time, I promise.

Yeah, I think it's the Damashik show. Oh. Sometimes it gets a little sloppy in here. Really? Yeah. Have you talked to him about it? You know, it's a sensitive topic because you don't want to go into tell a grown man, hey, you've got to clean up after yourself.

And also, we don't know that that's the case all the time with him or anyone attached to him. I would bet it's not. Why am I still talking? Who do you think it is? I'm not sure. Ooh, what do you got? Who is leaving the podcast? She thinks it's moved the sticks.

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I mean, she probably has underwear sponsors. of her own get that's a very fair point all right i didn't think we'd be talking about this today no uh over under so let's go around the room um mark get us going throw out a new player a first year NFL player uh kind of projections or whatever you want to call it and uh set it over under and we'll debate it all right so last year joey bosa after that prolonged hold out all that nonsense hit the scene looked like the best defensive rookie by far, some thought. I thought 10 and a half sacks. This year, Miles Garrett talked about

as this supreme athlete from another planet arrives, but he's going to Cleveland. They were, year after year, cannot get to the quarterback. He can't do it all alone. I am going to say that if he has a great season, this year with them, I will put the sack total at nine. Over under nine. Over under nine sacks.

Over under nine. Now, it's funny, I also did Garrett and I said it at 10 and a half and I did that for a couple reasons number one well one reason really

that he is not just being described as a guy that can make a pretty good impact down the line he's being described as a generational talent in fact he was he was described or he was compared to Julius Peppers and I looked up Julius Peppers 12 sacks as a rookie in 2002

I think Garrett can have that kind of impact from what we're hearing now a guy hasn't seen a lot of miles garrett but from what we're hearing i think he could hit 10 sacks i'm going to take the over i'm going over too on that i feel like von miller in 2011 he had 11 and a half sacks that's when he was defensive rookie of the year and we've heard a lot of those comparisons too that he can be that dominant true finally a pass rusher in cleveland for them and i think that i mean just talking to him and his physical presence watching him at the combine this guy is so good and he hasn't even reached his potential yet people talk about how well he doesn't really know his hand placement isn't really like great his

technique isn't all the way there yet but as soon as he gets that he's going to be unstoppable colin bringing the intrepid reporter info that we can't really match just like she's picking up you know little things from stuff at top of the dome that's connie fox in a nutshell i'm going under uh and if i if this isn't under here then the over is going to be on nine and a half of, you know, react cut shots to Mark Sess are not being thrilled with Miles Garrett during this rookie year just because the expectations are so high. It's unfair.

I think sacks are so random. He's a big, he could be an impact player without getting a ton of sacks. He only had eight and a half sacks last year in college. I mean, it's worth noting. The Browns are going to be trailing, you would think, in a lot of games. So that's not quite as many of those. was like clean up late when you're, you know, the other team's just passing all the time sacks.

I don't know. I just think it's a lot to expect the guy to come in and get double-digit sacks right away, although we have seen it recently. I'm with you, though, because Julius Pepper's was, came on to a Panthers team that was a year away from going to the Super Bowl. Nine is just right. That sounds like about the right number to me.

I think he, I give him eight, and I don't think it's because he's a disappointment, but he's part of a defense that still has a long way to go. Greg Williams, not a bad match for him, though. Well, like, Julie, when you're talking about, at a like an edge rusher. Is it, and I'm not saying I'm not making a point. I'm curious, is it as big a deal whether you're on a good team or a bad team?

Because you're just trying to beat a guy and get to the quarterback, aren't you? I just think it's like they, if you're going to double, triple team a guy and you're going to go into a game and say, here's the guy we're going to eliminate on this defense, it's Miles Garrett. It's not, oh, he's paired against, he's paired across from someone else. Emmanuel Lug was a good player, solid, but you game plan for Garrett. Right. And he's learning how to do it. The best thing that can happen for him is for Danny Shelton to be playing well.

You've got to worry about, like, where do you slide the coverage? Because you think it's always going to go, where are you going to slide the protection? It's going to go towards Garrett. And if Jamie Collins is suddenly playing well and pass rush in a lot, and then you've got people to worry about it and get some one-on-ones. Colleen. All right. So last year, Michael Thomas, we saw him catch 92 balls and Corey Davis this year.

I think with the Titans, I really like the offense. the offensive line is super solid. If Marcus Marriota completely recovers from the broken leg, I think Corey Davis will go 80 receptions over under. He's the best route runner in the class. That's a lot. I know. It's a lot.

80's a big number. Because he's a guy I think is going to make plays. So that means he might be up at a lot. And they have the running game too. Now I'm talking myself. No, I'm just saying he might be up at 12. 1,200 yards if he's getting 80 catches because he's a guy who's going to make plays vertically. He's going to make plays after the catch.

I love Corey Davis. So I'm just going to say over for the hell of it. I was going to throw out 1,000 yards for Corey Davis. And I thought that that's aggressive. 80 catches might be even more aggressive. But that's mostly been a short passing offense, short and medium range passing. So that's like a high number. I just love Corey Davis.

So I want to bet on it. He's so good. You just want to bet in general. But is Marcus Mariotta going to be a part of this team's off-season program at all? Not until. Because I factor that in with a rookie wide receiver. We'll see. I think he's going to be ready for camp, but not OTA's mini-camp.

Okay. So, yeah, I mean, I'll, what the hell? I'll go under, but that doesn't mean that he can't have a big rookie year. And if he has 60 or 70 catches, you know, I would think, like, a rookie wide receiver, if you can flash get in the end zone several times, like, if I've, and have about 700, 800, hundred yards. I'm pumped up about the rugby. He doesn't have to become a superstar immediately to be a hit for a draft pick.

I think some of the recent drafts make it easy to forget that a lot of times wide receivers need until year two, sometimes even year three to really bloom. Only one, only Thomas had over 80 catches last year. Yeah. And he was the only one with over a thousand yards. Everyone else was below seven. Right. I think it was a good fit.

I mean, I think they're going to need to lean on on Corey a lot. So that helps. but I'm going to go under, but I think it's not because he's not going to be able to do it down the road. I mean, the case against him is that he was playing at Western Michigan last year, and you're asking him to step in and not only be better than every receiver on your team by a large margin, because there's not multiple people aren't catching 80 passes on the Titans. He would be the only one. Taking shots.

He'd be the guy. Now my chair is annoying me because I'm just saying that's a big step up. I don't know what conference Western Michigan is playing in to you. Oh, yeah. Everybody knows that they play. Are they in the Mac? Everybody knows. Everybody knows.

It's one of those things you know immediately, that they are a top 100 national universe. They are in the Mac. They are in the Mac. They are in the Mac. They are in the Mac. They are in confirmed. New that four-year public research institute in Kalamazoo.

So it's like all those things that you know about them. I'll throw out O.J. Howard, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, tight end. And tight ends, as we know. It's something that people, bandy about. about in general conversations during the draft. Tight ends don't usually make a big impact year one. But maybe O.J. Howard is a different cat because people seem to think O.J. Howard is maybe

the best tight end to come out in like 10 years. So what do I go to? I'm trying to put some science to this, some data. Oh. And I. Yes, you are. Once the last, one's the last tight end to make a real impact year one. Rock's right there, right? Who's done it since Gronk? Not too many guys.

And that tells you something right there. And Gronk went in this range. So I'm going to set it right in the Gronk range. 50 catches, 600 yards, 6.5 touchdowns, O.J. Howard. So a nice, get your feet wet season, nothing that's going to send them all pro or anything. Those are very similar numbers to Gronk who had 10 touchdowns, but otherwise it didn't go crazy with yardage or anything.

I'm going to go under. there is because of the reasons you said it's a tough position to assimilate at in the at the NFL Cameron Brate's there catching passes and it's just there's a lot of mouth to feed I mean they're not going to have 7,000 yards with the bucks they're going to want to run the ball and Mike Evans

is a better receiver than OJ Howard and Deshawn Jackson's a better receiver than OJ Howard and then you've got Cameron Brate and Adam Hayward and of the Doug Martin trope alert is just yeah but fantasy wise it's like a big physical threat so like you give it to him in the red zone too

He could, I mean, Hunter Henry last year, a lot of touchdowns because of how you're used. But I just don't see them going into, let's say, the first half of the season, needing to make O.J. Howard the centerpiece of their game plan week after week. If he's, if he really blooms during training camp and he's a huge weapon, that would put him over. But I'm going to go slightly under. And that's the funny thing about we, you know, we're just having fun here. We're not taking this too seriously. But if O.J. Harrow goes 10 for 131 and two touchdowns in week one, they're going to like, they're immediately like, we want to get this guy more involved.

He's going to be a monster. We'll see how it plays out. Right. I go over on the touchdowns under on the rest. Okay. Can we do that? Yeah, absolutely. Splitting it up.

It's a good approach. Absolutely, Greg. All right, you're up. One of the best fantasy minds, maybe, you know, the best, you know, been in the game a long time. Evan Silva wrote a world. I thought you were going to send us to the fantasy. Oh, no. That goes without saying.

I've been waiting to get out there. I mean, on top five, but I'm fine being top five because I put literally no work into it. Yeah. Well, it's all instinct with you. I noted that he put out some dynasty rankings, and we've got some great dynasty rankings on NFL.com, too. But his rankings caught my eye because he was thinking along the same way that I was. He had Joe Mixen as his number one dynasty running back.

I saw that. Long term over Leonard Fournett. And if Mixon can basically stay out of trouble, it makes all the sense in the world to me. and I haven't really bought the idea that he's going to sit in any shape or form behind Jeremy Hill, and so I'm bullish, I'm giving it away here,

so I'm going to say over under for Joe Mixen's rookie season, 1,300 yards from scrimmage. Whoa! Wow. Now, from scrimmage, so that counts receiving. He's easy. That's a big year.

I will decisively and easily go over. Look at that, Mark. He's going to be used a ton Jordan Howard had over 1,600 total yards last year. Wow. I'm going to, I mean, if everything that we've heard about him, talent-wise, is true, then, yeah, I'm going to go over. I'm going to speak for Wes here, too, because I believe he would be in the same camp.

So we don't like what Cincinnati did in the offseason, right? The only thing I don't like about this. Right. Yeah, they just couldn't fill the holes in the same camp. all right and i'm just i'm saying and this is total yard so you're also catching you know talking about catches and things but if this is a team that has major offensive line issues am i going to sign up for a running back immediately becoming a pro ball slash all pro type level town in year one it could happen but if it does happen Cincinnati's going to have a nice season i think because they have

all these passing weapons and and andy dalton all of a sudden have this dynamic guy immediately to be able to work with and you could then uh you know get geo bernard in the mix as well But we talk about the malice defeat as well. I think Bernard's still going to be part of this game plan when he gets healthy. And I guess Jeremy Hill will be on the team. I think Jeremy Hill will be on the team. So he'll get the ball. He could be the starter.

They have started, but I obviously don't believe he'll be the start. I don't either. I think Jeremy Hill is going to take a big back seat. I respect Evan Silva, obviously, and Greg, you built Road to World Brick from Brick. So obviously, I respect you on this. But I think that's a little bullish in year one. So I'm going to take the under. For what it's worth, you know, Melvin Gordon had $1,400.

yards of scrimbaged last year, despite missing three games. So I think Mix and part of the reason I'd be bullish, especially in fantasy, is he might be as good a receiver as McCaffrey is. I mean, he might get 500, 600 yards as a receiver. That's saying a lot because McCaffrey's really good as a receiver. But it could be at 800, 500 split or 850, 450 kind of split. But they also, I mean, you got A.J. Green. Yeah.

Tyler Eiffrey, you got John Ross there now. And you got Gio Bernard, the guy catches the ball. Is he going to get enough touch? to get that tub of yards. I guess, again, it goes back to, if he hits the ground running as a dynamic player, they're going to work him into the game. And that offensive line.

He's got to convince Marvin Lewis into it, but now that I'm thinking about this topic, it's like, you know, they'll send out that mass email to all of us where we have to choose who's the MVP, who's this or that, and it's like, check out with Bucky Brooks things, check out with Colleen Wolf and Mark things.

It's like, Joe Mixing to me would be the rookie year. Why'd you leave me out of that? Why'd you leave me out? Like, why wouldn't I be on that? You're the host, Dan. You would be on it. You would be on it. Just because you said, I was just trying to say them.

I was just trying to mention a variety of different types of analysts. Bucky Brooks, who's not even in this room, you know, Colleen says all sorts of things. And Mark, I'm looking at my chair faces that way. Bucke Brooks and everyone in the room, except Dan. That's cool. Let's cool. Let's go around again. Ready? I guess so.

I think all of you are doing a great job. so far on this. Get some WD-40 in your chair. It is. This chair is awful. What happens if you move right now? They can't hear it, but it's a hideous metal sound. All right, so they talk about this scene.

What? Hideous metal sound. Well, it's just, it's like, I wasn't even noticing it until you mentioned it. Now I cannot stop hearing it. Colleen, could you actually take your headset off and can you do a couple squeaks? Let's let the audience. Now that I need it to, it's not.

It's not. It's fine. I feel like Sid came in and we didn't even see her and she just got the WD 40 out. She's that good. She's that on fire today. Is that what happens, Sydney? I'm pretty good at my job.

I'll just leave it at that. Sydney cannot wait to go home. Yes. All right, Mark. All right. Now, we just talked about total yards. It's how great this running back class is. Well, let's find out.

Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey and Dalvin Cook combined to produce 300 yards on the ground. Good. Let's go a little faster this round. I like that. You got right into it. Can you repeat it, though? What is that?

Yeah, I missed it. Leonard Fornett, Christian McCaffrey and Dalvin Cook combined to produce 300 yards on the ground. When? As rookies next year. 300,000 you mean? 3,000. Oh, 300. In week one, no, sorry, 3,000.

I'm taking the over. I'm locking you in on your initial number. I'm saying the over. No, I am not going. Okay, so they're combining for 3,000. Rushing yards? Who was the third? Rushing yards.

Leonard Fornett, Christian McCaffrey, and Dalvin. Combined. This is kind of like a what's more likely. something that's getting confusing. I'm going under. It'd be rare to have, well, yeah. I'm going to go under because all you need is one of those guys to fall short of expectations significantly.

And I could see, I don't know who it would be, but that's just how, that's just how it goes. Unless one of those, we did do a similar what's more likely on our network hit last week where it was beast mode, Jamal Charles and Adrian Peterson, would they go over 3,000? And yes, if someone does poorly, put you in a bad spot, but then if someone goes off, and averaging it out. That's true. Third guy to kind of drop you with an 800 bomb or something and you're flying to the over.

I'm going under, especially because they're all three rookies relying on that for them to do, I mean, at least $1,000 each, no. Yeah, plus there's rookie running back. Any rookie. But it definitely could happen. There's always a really talented class. It would be rare, but. Ornette could he get halfway there by himself?

Newsflash also. Like, everyone's really excited about their rookies on their teams. like half these guys are either going to be non-contributors or wash out of the league in a couple of years. So the chance that all three of these guys are going to like make an impact, I'm going to say no. I'm going to take it under here. We should dig in a little bit more on Leonard Fournett because that was my next one. Okay. Because the run game last year, 22nd in the league, we all saw how that worked out.

No member on the team last year rushed for more than 465 yards. Go, Chris. That was T.J. Yeldon. Yeah. So 800 yards for Leonard Fournet over under. 800 yards or I'm sorry Is everyone okay This side of the table is disturbed

How many yards? Let's go a thousand A thousand rushing yards Over under Lenny Fournett Rookie Year will he run for These guys are just flying high after getting asked In my mass email about the rookie of the year

And they're just forgetting what's going on Yeah it's like listen box check day over All right well the math again And I'm steadily improving Really good under the radar If you average 60 yards a game and you play every game, you're going to get 1,000. That's not a crazy ask if you stay healthy.

You can't project injuries. Lenny Furnett will be good or not. The Jaguars always blow it. So he won't be good. And the Jaguars will continue to stink. So I'll take the under. Okay. He's got that jaguar stink on it.

He's going over. I feel confident, barring injury. Don't do it. Don't fall to the trap. It's not hard to go. It's hard not to go over 1,000 yards if you stay healthy. because I don't think they're like, let's see if he can, you know, be better than T.J. Yelden or what are we going to, how are we going to mix in Chris Ivory with him? No, they're just going to give him the ball 20 times a game. He's going to get 300 carries. Even if he wasn't that good, he'll just fall forward into 1,100 yards. And there's no reason to think he wouldn't be good. So I'm going way over. I'm with you. Also, if they run into more Blake Bortles issues and they ever had to make some sort of a quarterback switch, and you have to change from being a team that wants to pass the ball to just pay. pounding around with Leonard Fournett.

You know, when we were kids, I would collect football cards and it would be like the 1,000 yard club. Like this was this big deal that you got 1,000 yards. But then you break it down like you just did. And it's like, no, it's not. 65 yards a game. It's not a big deal today. So he's going to be a huge centerpiece player in their offense.

I'm going over. Is Chris Ivory still on the team, right? Yeah. Can I just say something about Chris Ivory? I know last year was terrible for him. But he was a really good player on the Jets. Yeah, he was. And maybe in a better situation where he's a 1B type guy,

he can actually return to his roots where he's a productive member of society as a professional. I don't think that's a crazy thought. Everyone's completely writing him off. And I could be way off and he can get cut in a couple of months. But I think he's going to have a role in this offense potentially and bounce back a little bit. And that's going to also hurt for a net's production in your one. I think that there's a good chance will get cut. I'm sort of surprised he hasn't because he's due $4.5 million.

That's a lot of money to pay a clear backup. So something's got to give there. Maybe he'll work it out. He's been injured. He's willing to take a pay cut and stay, but I don't think they're paying him $4.5 million. Let's head over to, we mentioned it earlier. Let's head over to the Fantasy Corner.

We haven't been here in a while. Are we? And Mark, you know, we are on the wrong side of the train? track, so be careful. Your thoughts? Gary out here. The running back rookie class, stay away or draft away, come drafts in about five months? Well, I mean, you don't want to maybe prioritize all these guys in your top round,

but I would say that of the running back classes of late, a lot of the situations are good for these backs, too. McCaffrey and Carolina, Fortnet we just talked about is going to get a ton of action. Of course, be risky, be daring. Pick the team you want. Be risky. Be on your streak. If you like, exactly.

Be out here. Would you want to be with Leonard Fournett out here? Yes, you would. You want them on your side. I tell you what's really risky. Drafting in five months, like Dan just said. It's about week six in five months. The whole season's got past you.

You're done. But you will know the answer to the question before you draft if you do that. So that might be smart. In fact, maybe don't draft at all. Stay away from fantasy next year entirely and see where you are the year after with these players. When you're on your fantasy corner, are you in a, this is how I imagine you're in one of those old... A nightmare? Yeah, it's a nightmare.

But it's bulletproof phone booth at you. No bulletproof glass or anything. I'm kind of tucked into an alcove, and there's a lot of action out here. I can't wait for the segment to end. All right, you want to leave the fantasy corner? Yes, I do. Oh, that was scary.

That was like a scene from King of New York. Glad I have Mace now. Mace ain't going to help you on that corner. It was like Colleen in Philadelphia as the night went on. Oh, my God. Yeah. A guy tackled our camera guy. There was our awesome, we had some amazing security guys with us,

but the one guy, T.C, was just like picking up dudes and throwing them out of the way. It got really dicey. Did anyone from the network or NFL media step in to help you? Seems a little. Yeah, well, as the day wore on, the natives got restless when we had to like hold up lines to do like hits for things and we got booed off stage. We got lots of things. of things yelled at us.

It'd be cool to be the guy that's just throwing people and be like, get away from her, clear the way. And you're just throwing people with no fear of retribution. Yeah. He didn't have to. And he was huge. But they're my people. I love Philly.

So it's fine. Too late. They switched it off halfway through that. They've declared vengeance upon you. All right. Back to Cincinnati, John Ross. Interesting draft pick. they're looking to fix that offense

he's been compared favorably to Deshawn Jackson just Deshawn Jackson who's average 17.7 yards per catch over his career so what the hell John Ross 17.7 yards per catch

as a rookie over on that 17.7 Instant impact under wow under yeah I'm going under for that 17.7 yards per catch.

He would be someone that could do it, and that would be among the league leaders, if not leading the league, you know, that would be in the mix, but I'm going to go under. Can't you see, you know, Andy Dalton throwing some short, short little passes too where he's got to try to make you miss and stuff?

But he is so quick. He's so fast. Yeah, and part of his game, I guess, part of what people are excited about is that because he's so fast, as we know, he set the Combine record and all that, is that corners they freak out and they kind of they give him massive cushion and he's going to get if he if this all goes to plan he'll get a lot of underneath type yardage too i guess that could knock that down all right so i was a little bullish what if i would have dropped it down to 14 over oh then i go over yeah you found the sweet spot there i like 14 okay better than 17 he's got to stay healthy he's small that was deshawn's thing too i mean these when you're small and you're getting these huge hits out there you're Yeah.

He's got to take care of himself. All right, Greg, throwing out there. And then we'll do a speed round. All right, I thought this was the last one. Oh. All right, you guys want to end it here? Last one, Greg. I like a speed round.

All right, speed round. Greg, you're the last one of this standard time round. I got to think of another one. And Sid, do we have any type of speed round type audio? Don't hurt me. All right, Deshawn Watson clearly drafted to be the future in Houston. The present is someone we've wondered for a long time. Is he a real person or not?

Is he a corporeal entity? Is he a figment of the draft industrial complex? That's Tom Savage, of course. Well, now she's looking for. Good time to call for a drop from Sydney while she's hard at work trying to find another. I think Tom Savage will start week one, and if he doesn't, he should be in the mix.

But Deshaun Watson, we obviously know he's the future. Over under 13 starts for Deshaun. Savage is real. Just get it in there somewhere. Maybe I'm going to lower it down one to 12, over under 12 starts. Deshawn Watson? Deshawn Watson. Does Savage get four or five in there at some point?

I love this question. I had the same question, and I had him at eight starts because, well, here's the thing. I don't buy this. We love Tom Savage thing, but I also love the idea of them not putting someone in there way too early. And if Savage can keep them at four and four, five, and three even before he's yanked, I mean, they're not a terrible team so they could be competitive. Savage wouldn't be the reason they're losing. I have Deshaun at eight starts, so I'm going to go under.

Yeah, I think Tom Savage probably starts the first month of the season, and then it's Deshaun Watson from there on out. So what is that? It's an under. That's why I dropped it to 12. It's close. Yeah. Sitting at 12?

It's at 12. Feels like a push. Do the old Sessler. No. I'll go under. I'm going under. Off the fence. Yeah.

I think the only way he starts less than like 13 games is if he gets hurt. I think he'll be put into the line of very quickly. I don't believe in Tom Savage, unfortunately. Tom Savage is real. It's kind of annoying that we have to keep hearing these sound bites out of Houston. It's just like this is Case Keenum all over again. Like, please just get here season or muzzle everyone. Yes, I'm with you.

I'll take the over there. We'll see what. All right. Speed round. Go. All right. Mr. Irrelevant will not be irrelevant. Chad Kelly, one touchdown pass for the Bills over under.

Under. Is he on the Bills? He's on the Broncos. Under, because he's not on the Bills. Push. Connie. Okay. Patrick Mahomes starts two games for the Chiefs.

Under. Under, I've met one. First 10. Did you say something? No. Did you answer that? This is going well. Under.

All right. First 10 picks of the draft in the first round. Three and a half Pro Bowl trips. This year? Absolutely this year. Under. Under. Wow.

Greg. All right. Alvin Kamara over under one Wes rant that why are they given Alvin Kamara the ball so much when Adrian Peterson's in the same backfield? Over. Wait, if Wes gets on something, he's going to do it more than once. He's going to pound the table and make it. happened. So I'm going over. He's going to make that team change. It's coaching thing.

Last time around. Last time around. Oh, my God. Rookie quarterback playoffs. I have it at one. I didn't hear the question, but over. Rookie quarterback playoffs. Don't do that. Oh, under for sure. Under for sure. So it's definitely zero? Yeah. Okay. Really? I mean, this year, yeah. We'll see. Jets, uh, safety, Jamel Adams, Hall fame jackets, two. Zero. Under. Under. All right. Okay, that's it. Great job. Great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great.

To the mailbag real quick. I thought I killed us with my cut right time. It lose. We would not let you take the mailbag away from us, Greg. What's in the mailbag? First one up. Neil Dutton, our boy, the Dutton. You've all attended Super Bowls,

but what other sporting events would? you guys most like to attend I really sneaky like the Combine it's like I know it's such a weird event I think it I think if someone you haven't attended oh oh love to attend it you would like any

sport oh I know what I'd like go start a smart Wimbledon nice why because I get to go to London and hang out I think it's the whole like the whole trip itself it wouldn't be like hey you're driving up the highway you're going to a game six of something and then you're back home at your house. Like you're gone for weeks and weeks.

I'd go to all of Limbledon. All right, good. I'll go with the World Cup, but under this, it would be a final that the United States was in. That's great. Which probably will never happen, at least in my lifetime. That would be why. But more in my under-employed days of my life, I once went to a sports bar at 7 a.m. in Manhattan to watch the United States play Algeria in the 2010 World Cup.

and Landed Donovan scored a goal an extra time to move the U.S. to the second round. And that is by far the greatest sports experience I've ever been involved with in a bar. Wow. Can you even imagine if the U.S. actually was truly relevant and was a power player and made the finals. Oh, that would be so much fun to be there. I'd be blown. What do they call those things? The Vazuvulas.

Oh, yeah. I don't know if that's the right name for it. I'd be blown it. Cool. What? Nothing. Because it would be fun. You took.

I got mine. All right, go for it. I would want to go to an NBA finals game. Like that, to me, that's when I first fell in love with sports was watching the Sixers with Alan Iverson, to Kimi Matumbo, Eric Snow in the playoffs. And it was like life changing for me. And that sort of switched everything around in my life. I loved watching them play. And I really like finals.

I've been to like some World Series for work and Stanley Cup. A Sixers finals game? Like a game set. I mean, that would be awesome. Yeah. Yeah. But they would probably lose, so I don't know. You took like a Grand Slam event, which I would love that, too, any of those.

The soccer, yeah, or Australia would be fun. Soccer, like a great end of the season Premier League game would be fun. But I'm going to go to one that I've been trying to make happen for a while, and I will eventually. I want to see Sumo in Japan because I don't think people don't realize what a big deal. Sumo is. I mean, it's only, I think, it's four times a year. And it is like, it is their biggest sporting event. It's this huge sort of festival and just knowing how Japan does it.

I'm sure everyone's getting bombed. And there's no other, there's no other, there can't be any other sporting event like it. It just must be a crazy sort of experience. So I'd love to see that. Mark, this next question is for you. Will there be a Super Bowl next season, not from Will Soistman? Yes, definitely next year. Although, honestly, this might be the,

year upcoming to say no but i'm going to think yes there will be a i thought you were going to say it's the last i mean there's you know north korea concerns me but in general let's go yes uh this one from w fc wolf's mouth what would be your current and all-time team of announcer and analyst i'll start with this one my current all-time favorite or my current favorite is colonsworth and michael's best in the game to me and my all-time favorite both for uh well a lot of it's sentimental mental reasons as being young and reminds me of moments from my youth, but I will go with Madden and Summerall as my all-time team. All-time, I go Madden and Summerall.

Really no questions asked there, although there were a couple NBC teams that I absolutely loved because it's tied to good memories. Current, I love Aikman. I really dig Akeman, and I don't know if I have a play-by-play. I, basically anybody with Harry Callis, Harry Callas, like, growing up listening to Phillies games, and he did a ton of stuff for NFL films.

His voice is so amazing. I would listen to him call any game. How about Mike Tariko, by the way? Tariko, I mean, I think Tariko is great. I think there's a bunch that are really good, so I just don't have a Bernie Passion around. I know. This is one where I wish I could have time to, like, really think about it. But I would go Al and Chris right now.

So I believe that's the right answer. All right. next up get excited people the suspense is killing me dan uh i got one go ahead go ahead okay from thadius stewart at thaty's stewart if you had to get the face of an NFL player tattooed on your body who would you get and wear on your body that's that's a tough one this is a tough this is like a long command commitment too this is basically life has to be a current player uh you could open it up to the past if you want um wow this is well i had i i i would put it on my like my other my shoulder blade

i have a tattoo actually that's on my right shoulder braid that's kind of where you know if you don't want anyone to ever see it that's a good place so i i don't want anyone but you're not going to the beach well it's as it's as hidden as it's going to get You know what I mean? I mean, like, you know, a little down, a little down the back. I'm just saying, I don't want someone. What is your tattoo of, the one that you currently have? I'm not getting into it.

That is a question. The player, though, you're not, I don't want that to be embarrassing. There's no good scenario. I'm not turning that into a real positive. So I think I just would go Malcolm Butler because, you know, Malcolm Butler always makes me happy. Mark? Probably I'll just go Miles Garrett because I love, like, I named a cheese. I named a child after a Browns drafted player

and that player is no longer with the Browns. Let's put it that way. Yeah. Totally risky. Miles Garrett, but it would only be about like half an inch tall his whole body. And I would put it like on the, I'd put it somewhere.

It would just look like a freckle on the back of my knee. I'll go. Smart. Tramp stamp Reggie White. Whoa. That's funny. Just, I mean, you got to, you got to embrace it. You got to lean into it.

Yeah. I was, I was going to go. It's a good name for a band, Tramp Stamp, Reggie White. I was thinking Tramp as well. Oh, okay. We could get it together. Yeah, and I will get a clipboard Jesus tramp stamp. Wow.

I like that. All right. Next up from Jesse Nicolette. Who is John Gonzalez? John Ronald Gonzalez born March 12th, 1977 is an American sports writer who's married NFL media broadcaster, Colleen Wolf, John, who's a Pisces resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Next up, at B. Kumar 18.

If the ATM, Mark, this one's for. you. Not directed at you, but I'm going to lean on you here. And this, Greg, I don't agree with this, even though I don't know what it means. If the ATN members were Star Wars characters, what would they be? And then parenthetical, Greg would be annoying C3PO, but interested in others and parenthetical. I don't know what that's... I won't, I won't say one for myself, but I think Dan has a Han Solo feel to him, which is a compliment. I think most people would want to be... Oh, absolutely, yeah. Is that Harrison Ford? Yeah.

All right, good. I'm happy with that. I cannot believe you don't know that. No, I did know that. Wes, I could see Wes. This is tough. This is, I'm getting thrown into this. Wes could be like a Chewbacca, and I say that in a great way.

Because he's super, like in what we do, he's extremely reliable. He's loyal. He's kind of no nonsense. And Chewy is beloved, and he was very close to Hans. And Wes can make those type of sounds if he's, if he drinks Yes, he can. Greg. He's an animal.

It's very accurate. Greg is tricky. I'm not putting Greg on the Millennium Falcon because he admitted last year that he had never, he did not recognize what the Millennium Falcon was. But I, you know, I think C3PO is not a bad one for Greg. It seems like it's not a positive, but C3PO is one, here's Greg as a football analyst. He's been there longer than any of us. He's been there longer than any one of us.

He's seen so much more. C3PO is the one character that's there from the very beginning until the end to where they are now. And he's incredibly knowledgeable about what he does. And he's helped him out of a lot of pinches, underrated. And why would organize it? And I'm assuming the person that sent this tweet out, sent it out in a pejorative sense. I don't agree with their take on that. Smart to direct that at Sessler, though.

Yeah, well, what about Colleen? I mean, you got to, I'd say Princess Leia type character, yeah. Absolutely. Sure. Well, because they only have one female. Is it just because I'm a girl? Right. No, I think that Princess Leia actually, well, for this way,

I think you have a little bit of Carrie Fisher in you, which is a great compliment. She's a great writer and a humorist, and those guys that worked with her thought she was the most fun of anyone to be around. Clearly, like, huge fans of the female gender in general, the Star Wars franchise. Really thought about that.

I mean, you could not be more out of your element, Greg. This is why C3PL gets slapped around sometimes because they're absolutely incorrect. If you look at where they... That's in the late 70s, and it was modeled a certain way, but the way they've done it now, it's like the last two major film releases,

the main character is a powerful woman. They're doing a nice shot. Yeah, they're trying to fix the fact that the first time around there's like 300 characters. Let's have one woman and stick her in a bikini. That is utterly untrue. I'm just taking random shots.

It is a random inaccurate. And I will, even though I'm not totally familiar. I'm not really great on the Char Wars. I'm going to throw out Mark as Luke Skywalker. Oh, yeah. Just because you kind of look like Mark Hamel a little bit. I think we would have a good, like, Luke Han-type thing going on. Yeah.

Better room. Only you'll have two hands. Yes. See how I have knowledge. Vader took his hand off. I have a better father than he did. A much, much better one. Ed Sessler is no Vader.

No, nor would he want to be. He's probably with you guys on this whole Star Wars talk. Finally, Greg, and this segment included, because we know that you don't, you're not big on the, you know, what's the term with reaching out to the fans that I used earlier? Interfacing. Interface with fans. Who said that? Well, you're trying to ax the segment when you went rogue.

You made that up. This one comes from Andrew Lewis in Liverpool. Which current segment does Greg most want to axe? And by the way, give an honest answer on this. Okay. Well, two things. First. I have two things I want to ask.

Wow. This whole reputation about wanting to act segments is unfair. I think it's fair to point out in the life of a show, you want to refresh some things. You don't want to keep doing the same thing over and over and over. You want to have new ones, come up with some new classics. Things run their course in terms of humor. All right.

I would say when we, now that I got that, no time to think about it. I thought about it because it was on my mind. when we read the user reviews. So from iTunes at this point, I think we can do better. We can do something related than that, but just reading the iTunes reviews doesn't do it for me anymore. Well, what about another one?

Oh, I kind of think it's funny. You know what? It's also a bit of a cop-out because we had this conversation and I was in agreement with you. But that really is. You do feel that way. Yeah, I said it. The last time we had, I was like, no.

What about another segment that's on your radar or your stuff? starting to tire of. I don't know. We've gotten rid of most of the bad ones. I gave you my honest. I'm not given anymore. Well, you were no fan of Win West's Toaster. We all know that.

But that only, just so you know, it didn't go away because of you, it went away because West kind of lost the passion and a number of matches. Yeah, exactly. It was a great segment. It'll probably be back someday in some form, but, you know, things run their courses sometimes. is that's all I'm saying that's a good question I believe damashek has is that not true he was the reigning champ all right I have one that's on my radar all our segments are pretty strong what I can't even think of it I team of ATL is on my radar big time mm it was unnecessarily

annoying last year and it kind of tore us all apart a little bit and none of us see it the same way and I think it needs a rethinking not a going away but it needs it we need to rethink how to handle it we have to go away for a while and just dream it all up again okay yeah that's it mailbag closed you don't you don't have anything calling i mean i don't know the host maybe um wow it's not a segment over my dead body then yeah Connie doesn't appear on the show again until 2009 yeah and suddenly chimes in uh yeah odds and ends would be the segment i would kill Enough of this odds it ends them. I, yeah, segments know, but there have been individuals who have been acts from the show that we have had a hand in.

Some people go away and they don't come back. Whoa. I think you're a great host. I think that you've been like steering this ship into wonderful territory. All right. We will be back. Connie, thank you. You're welcome.

Despite everything that just happened in the last. 60 to 90 seconds. I'm going to forget about it all anyway as soon as I walk out of here. We'll be back on Wednesday. Chris Wessling will be back with us and we will, you know, chop it up. Mixing it up. Football chop up action. By the way, the subreddit around the NFL, we were trying to figure it out.

Greby and I were doing a little DMing. There's no way for Greby to know who's the 5,000th member of the subreddit, which that's the contest here. But what we're going to do, once the subreddit hits $500,000, excuse me, we will then at random pick someone within the $5,000 for a special prize. How about that? I mean, it seems very fair. The next part of this is what is a special prize.

Maybe it's Wes's toaster. Maybe. If you can find it. If we can find it. So anyway, check out the around the NFL subreddit. it as we the march for 5,000 we'll be back Wednesday so make sure you join us and thank you for listening we really appreciate it I mean it's May 8th you don't have to be listening to a football podcast you definitely don't people says Dan Hans is signing off for the quiet

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