NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Packers-Eagles Recap

Episode Date: September 7, 2024

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by TNT's Adam Lefkoe to recap the Eagles opening their season with a win over the Packers in Sao Paulo, Brazil. The guys start out by discussing what the takeaways are for the Eagles after this up and down game (2:09) followed by Nick Sirianni getting praise for some of his game management (18:16). After the break, the focus shifts to Jordan Love's play and what to look forward to for the Packers (21:48).  Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sunday. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to NFL Daily, but we're not slipping all over the field. I'm Greg Rosenthal here to talk about a wild, weird game. in Brazil between the Packers and the Eagles. The Eagles come out on top, 34 to 29.

And yes, we are live on YouTube, and I am so lucky today to be joined by Adam Lefko of TNT fame, host of the NBA on TNT, also host of the Mountain West. Catch him in the studio on Saturday with some Idaho, Wyoming. He does the big podcast with Shaq. He does it all. But most importantly, he's also a football guy. I know this, and he's an Eagles fan.

A lot happened in that game, Adam. Just how are you feeling right now? I think the thing that I'm still wrestling with is as the Eagles were on the one-yard line, you know, Greg texts me and he's like super excited, man. And then as that happens, they fumble the snap. And I would have blamed all of this on Greg Rosenthal. I am that superstitious of a fan. I think for me, like the big, big, big takeaway is,

For that to be a home game for the Eagles in a place where both teams were green and you're not allowed to wear green and the field was an absolute mess. So much so that like a field judge, if you remember, it was getting like his ankle taped in the second quarter and how that ended with Jordan Love and I don't, I hope he's okay. I understand that now on a PowerPoint presentation, the NFL can say we've played a game in South America. I just have to ask, when do we start going? Is this worth it? Because that, listen, man, I'm pumped. But at the same time, I know we want world domination and we want to conquer all the continents. But I hope he's okay. I really hope Jordan loves okay. Yeah. So look,

if you weren't an Eagles fan and there wasn't so much crazy stuff happening in that game, that's obviously that the way we would start, we'll get to all the craziness in the game. Because, yeah, like, I've never been to, you know, Carnival before, of course. But I had been to a lot of Mardi Gras in New Orleans. And that game kind of was like a Mardi Gras. It was just like sloppy. It was fun, but it was dumb. There was a lot of scoring.

There was a lot of slipping and falling. How far can I take this? I'm not sure what I'm really going to remember, although that was true until the Jordan Love moment at the end, unfortunately. And so he was helped off the field on the second. to last, or third to last play of the game, really heads-up play from him. They had no timeouts left. He was setting up to possibly throw a Hail Mary, and he was about to get sacked, and he lateraled the ball to Josh Jacobs, who got out of bounds and gave them a couple more plays.

But his knee got twisted, it looked like, by Jalen Carter on that play. He looked to be in a lot of pain, although when he got up, walked off the field, was on the sideline, and then helped to the locker room after. I don't know. just don't want to guess. I've been in too many of these situations, and it's just when people hear this, they might already know what the answer is. So we just hope that that doesn't ruin an NFL team that we want to watch for even a couple weeks or certainly longer than that. We won't know. But yeah, Malik Willis, who casuals might not realize they just traded for to be their backup quarterback came in and he got sacked at the end of the game. Actually, to feel

a little happier just about the whole situation. Let's listen to the last play of the game by NBC's Noah Eagle here. Here's the ball game. Final three seconds from Brazil. Willis slips. Willis steps up. Goes down. Game Ender.

Who else but Zach Bonn? What a day. The linebacker seals it and the Eagles in this battle of heavyweights. Start the season with a win. That was good. Who else but Zach Bonn? I will remember that.

Who else? 15 tackles, two sacks. I've got some friends who now do the Saints Block Party podcast who have been, they've been talking about the Bonfire, the rise of Zach Bond for years, waiting for it to happen. The Saints just gave him chance after chance after chance. They never knew how to use him. They kind of used him as an edge rusher, and now he's an offball linebacker. And how he's going to have some misses and some wins this offseason. He looks like a win because that's been a problem position for them. And he was a monster tonight. He didn't even know how he was going to be used. At his introductory press conference with the Eagles, he said, I can't wait to finally be an edge rusher. And now he's out there at middle linebacker.

That's one of the big storylines. I had a bunch written down beforehand that I was paying attention to. One, no Devin White doesn't make the trip. How does Nacobi Dean do after two years of barely playing? And Zach Bonn, I thought both played very well. Obviously, they let up some big plays, but they also made some big plays. Nicobi Dean, they're like, the Eagles had two plays. one, the Nacobi Dean pick six that he just dropped.

Green Bay scores later on that drive. Darius, Slay forced to fumble. Green Bay recovers it. They then score again on that drive. So it was a lot of missed opportunities, I thought, with both teams. I thought Jordan Love had some wide open receivers, whether that was slipping from him or slipping from the receivers, both in the end zone and just driving.

Jalen Hertz made some throws. One that was really bad, red zone interception. a few that were on the sideline where you're sitting there going, what are you even looking at? As you texted me, it was a very week one game. And I don't know if you were trying to allude to this. It kind of was like the Bourbon Street of first games in terms of like your people are

slipping and fallen in their drinks. You look up and you're like, whoa, those people are partying. Then you see like the greatest, someone does a backflip. It very much was like, where am I right now? Where is Bryce Huff right now?

I have no idea. I would love for him to show up. I was texting with Jason Kelsey during the game. We were both very impressed with Mackay Beckton. I mean, Humble, let's stop right there. You regularly text with Jason Kelsey. And I was friends with the Kelsey's before they got like really big.

And so now that they're like hanging out with Taylor Swift and doing commercials for Hellman's, I can still, I can still hit him up. But yeah, I'm also just sitting there going, man, I wonder what, what Jason thinks about Mackay Beckton right now. That's the key is. I only text. Well, we're on it. Give us some Kelsey Nuggets.

Like, what was he thinking about this offensive line? It seemed like they were blocked. I'm not a guard expert, but it seemed like they were running behind Beckton pretty effectively tonight. They were. And he was saying that the tandem of him and Cam Juergens, he was very impressed with. I was also texting. right when the Eagles offense thought they got in off sides and then I think hurts through the

the I&T. And so that's when we stopped communicating. But he said, other than the first the fumble in the beginning, which was bad and the pick in their own zone, the offensive line really gelled after that. I think he was impressed. All right. I will speak for the Packers fans or the others that are listening hearing Kelsey talk up Cam Juergens and point out like they had two failed push pushes, and they fumbled the ball. And he had an early snap to Jalen Hertz, which I don't know if that's on Hertz or Juergens, but it seemed like it was on Juergens. And then the play that you mentioned at the end of the game, as great a game as Sequin Barclay had. And yes, he had three touchdowns in this game. He grinded. He caught a wheel route for a touchdown on a great throw

by Jalen Hertz. We'll get to Jalen Hertz's wild night. The biggest play that Sequin when Barclay made was covering that fumble, they were up to, they're on the goal line, trying to kill the clock, trying to score a touchdown with under one minute to go. And that was giving me like reverse miracle at the Meadowlands. I know they were on the one yard line, so it wasn't the same situation. But in that situation, if the Packers had fallen on the ball, I would have fully expected them to go down and kick a field goal, despite their shaky field goal kicker that they picked off waivers, whose miss kick was big in this game.

Like so much happened in this game. It is tough to recap it all. Think about those three points. And then think about when they made the extra point, off sides on the Eagles decide to go for two and then don't get it. So that's another point. That's four points right now. Then they'd be down by one.

I also want to say to Packers fans, you have every reason to be upset with those two defensive holding calls against the Packers when the Eagles were wasting clock going down the field. The first one looked like Devante Smith. Devante just kind of slipped. And the second one on Sequin Barclay, I thought Jalen Hertz was already running out of the pocket when they called holding on,

I think it was Kenny Clark. Yes, it was who grabbed Seqvon. It was the first week for everybody, but those two calls to me were not great calls. No, they weren't. So to set up the situation, the Packers have the ball, driving down five.

It's been a back and forth game, bunch of lead changes. high scoring, and the Packers are inside the 10-yard line midway through the fourth quarter. I believe it was a fourth and five from the eight. Now, the analytical models say that's a go-for-it there, because of the time of the game, you're so close to scoring the touchdown, you're only cutting the lead to two. You know, it reminds you a little bit of Aaron Rogers in San Francisco in the playoff game where McCarthy kicks the field goal, not as egregious because of the time and because it gets

to two, not as egregious as that playoff moment. But I was thinking as an Eagles fan, I'm happy that they're kicking the field goal in that situation. I'm not an Eagles fan, but if I was, I'm like a closet Eagles fan. It's kind of one of my teams. Really? Yeah, I mean, not like, with other

teams, you know, you take them and you leave them. They don't hurt you when they lose, but it hurt me a little bit when they lost that Super Bowl. I always just like the Eagles. I always pick them to win. Yeah, they're a fun team. So the Eagles get the ball back with just under eight minutes to go. And they essentially end the game with that drive.

They hold it till there's 27 seconds left. And if not for that fumbled snap, and I don't know if it was Jalen Hertz or Juergens' fault, they tried to push on the goal line. They would have scored a touchdown there to win it. Instead, they gave 27 seconds for the Packers to go try to score. But an impressive drive nonetheless. Yeah, you got a couple of calls in there,

but you also saw Jalen Hertz finally make some plays with his legs after making really poor decisions throughout the course of the game of when to run, when not to. Sequin Barclay picked up a couple first downs there. He finishes with 109 yards on the ground, 23 in the air, three touchdowns, and even his yards per carry was brought down

because he had so many of those just like two yard runs right at the end as they're killing clock. Just an awesome performance by Sequin Barclay. You have to feel good that Saquan Barclay is on your team. The other guy that I thought was huge on that drive was Devante Smith. He had one catch in which he sliced through

two defenders, got the first down, and that slant inside the red zone, which was, you know, shout out to Kellyn Moore. I haven't seen a play call like that in a few years, not really since Stuyken. And so I enjoy the aggressive venture. What do you mean? Just being like that aggressive in that

situation. And so to set that up, second and eight, 17-yard line, two minutes and 10 seconds left. So that's a ballsy call there to not run the ball and go for the first down right there. I felt for the last 18 months that would have been a wide receiver screen for the Eagles, or that would have been like a Kenny Gainwell draw. And to trust Hertz in that situation after some of those passes that he had earlier,

I thought was really great. I do think this, I've been wondering about this Hertz now for two years. I personally believe that Hertz was never fast, whether there was injuries or not. But I think everyone wanted to defend the edge against him and they were afraid of him taking sideline. And he would always do that dead leg move where he'd stop and go up field.

And I think last year, everyone realized he's not trying to get outside. He's trying to cut in. And that's why he constantly falls down. But what I realized on that last drive was out of spread, when he can run between the tackles, very effective runner. But the RPO, I think they really need to sit down and think, like just give it to Sake one, because I don't think hurts off the RPO anymore as a productive football play. No, the decision making is what killed him.

And we heard that he was feeling healthier in training camp and that they were trying to use the run game and we're hearing positive things. But he seemed a little scramble tonight. What a weird game because you look at the numbers and it's 34 to 29 at the end of the game. You look at the offensive yardage, both teams go over 400. And that was after the first five drives of the game. game, neither team at any yards. I think it was a total of 39 yards in the first five drives, and then they explode. And yet, both quarterbacks were up and down at best. I would say

Hertz was up and down, because he made a bunch of good plays. He made a lot of bad plays. Jordan Love was more just struggling. But Hertz, I think, was easier to understand. When the ball comes out on time, it was good. Made a number of nice throws. You mentioned in Devanta Smith. That was one of the more impressive, what did he go, seven for 84, something like that. Every one of those was huge, difficult catches over the middle, but good throws to him, too. A nice throw to A.J. Brown by Hertz on a play that A.J. Brown takes to the house. Actually, let's listen to that one from Noah Eagle. That was a fun play. Second down in seven. Hertz with time. Lofts it over the top. Brown's got it. Here goes A.J.

Brown. Blinding speed. Brown. Touchdown. 67 yards. Okay. So that is A.J. Brown just housing Jayr Alexander, who was shadowing him early in the game, they stopped shadowing him after that. And Alexander actually had a nice interception to make up for it later. But that's what, that's what Hertz does well. He throws a nice go ball, nothing over the middle of this game. And I give Kellyn Moore a lot of credit too. I'm going to give Siriani credit a little later. But Kellyn Moore versus the Blitz and Jalen Hertz, give him the credit. The last year, I always thought it was more on the coaching than just Jalen Hertz. In a game where Hertz was 14 of 27 with two interceptions in 187 yards, 6.9 yards per attempt when he wasn't blitzed tonight,

Lefcoe? Can I call you Lefco? You kind of go last name, you know. Oh, that's, I prefer that. We've only met once at a Super Bowl dinner for that Mina kindness. Like seven years ago. It was a long time ago. Happy early birthday, Mina. Um, six for seven against the Blitz. Jalen Hertz. Wow. 91 yards. A touchdown. Perfect. passer rating. So like that those were their best plays, including by the way, on that last drive, one of his big completions was against the Blitz, but the Packers almost stopped using it because it wasn't working.

So that's something. They fixed that. They might have spent all offseason on that at the, you know, expense of some other things. There was a series of five games last year when I think if you look back at it now, you realize why that plummeting from the Eagles was so drastic. they beat in succession, Miami by double digits, Washington, Dallas, at Kansas City they won, and then Buffalo in overtime. This felt very much like that series of games where I don't know how the Eagles pulled it out,

but there are so many things that I'm still terrified of after this game that I still think are huge issues, that A.J. Brown's going to make A.J. Brown plays Sequin, that catch for that first touchdown. I mean, that was like wide receiver level stuff. But I still sit here after week one, even though it's against another team that's a favored to win their division. And I'm just thinking about, okay, Quignan Mitchell was good, but, man, they were picking on Avanti Maddox a ton.

They really need Cooper DeGine to get in there and be what he's expected to be. The pass rush from the exterior, is that because. the field was so bad or, you know, are we really missing, you know, some of the past rushers that we let go? I'm definitely like still a little bit glass half empty, even though I can't believe the Eagles somehow won this game. Well, that's what Eagles fans are going to do. And I think that makes sense. I wouldn't feel great about them if I was an Eagles fan after tonight. But it doesn't matter. These week won. I think fans and us in the media really overrate September. It really is extended preseason. They're not just saying that.

Like, they haven't played almost any snaps. And then they play 70 in Sao Paulo on a super slippery field. It's just like get a W and try to stay healthy. And that's why the Jordan Love thing. And they had a healthy night. The Eagles, they got a W that might come in really handy when it comes to playoff seating. We'll see they don't have the toughest schedule in the world, the Eagles. So this is one of the tougher games, neutral site.

You get the W, you move on. You try to work on things. And you try to just have things somewhat under control in late November. that's when they started falling apart last year. Before we move on from the Eagles, because I want to just kind of dive into what happened with the Packers, and we'll let you know while we're taping, we hear anything about Jordan Love.

I want to bring you back to the end of the first half. Give Nick Siriani some love and give the analytics department there to whoever's helping to make these decisions. I mean, Todd Blackledge was shocked that they're going for it on fourth and three with like a minute 40 left in the first half. They think they're going to kick. Like multiple, they take the time out. They don't kick.

They tried to get them with the hard count because they got them earlier. It didn't work. They did take the time out. Then they come back out and they still think that they're going to take another time out. You can't take a time out there. It's against the rules. At that point, they're definitely going for it. And it made total sense.

That was a go-for-it situation. But that was one of DeVontes Smith's great catches over the middle. A nice throw by Jalen Hertz, who isn't known for throwing over the middle, that great. And the reason you go for it there, not only is just to keep the ball. A minute 40 left. You're getting the ball after halftime. they did a great job bleeding the rest of the clock. They didn't get the touchdown there.

They ended up backing up, but they did end the half with the ball. So you got the three points. You prevented the Packers from getting the three points. You get a touchdown out of the half. So that's a 10 point sandwich there. And that's all for going for it on fourth down. And whenever they get those fourth downs, no one ever talks about it.

But if they didn't get it, people would be killing them. And people aren't killing the Packers for not going for it. Like the two fourth down decisions were pretty crucial in this game. I do think that fourth down is overshadowed by Hertz's bad decision afterwards because they did settle for a field goal in that drive where he just, he took, when a quarterback is rolling out and they think they're going to get sacked and they don't throw it away, it's one of those moments where as a fan, you think I would have thrown it away. I also realized as you're talking right now, we have a rules analyst in every booth. I believe that there should be like just like they have, they can call up a. referee. They should be able to call up Greg Rosenthal. Whenever somebody

says something that is like a statement that would have made 30 years ago. Like when someone goes, take the points. I almost think you need to pop up in a box and be like, actually like, I understand you're saying this. Here's why.

Because the, like Noah Eagle's never going to step on the color commentator's stuff. He never wants to seem like, have an intellectual intellectual discussion, but I do think it needs to happen because I was with you as he was saying that, I was like, somebody has to argue the other side here because we can't just live in this world of take the field goal. But we end up talking about that on Twitter.

I have news for you. There is that guy. He exists. His name is Sam Schwartzstein. He's on the Amazon Prime like next gen stats. And I don't want to make it just about being Jewish here. But yeah, he's another another member of the tribe, but he's like six foot three and a former offensive lineman. He does, I don't know if he pops up and tells them not to go, but they provide all the analysis. My son loves the next gen stats on the Amazon broadcast. So that guy kind of bring it to basketball. One of my favorite local broadcasts is the Portland Trailblazers because they have an analytics guy that comes in and will break down, hey, I know you guys thought that was a bad decision. here's why it actually makes sense.

Okay, so me and your son have a lot in common. I dig this. You should check out that broadcast. All right, left go. We still have a lot to get to. Let's take a quick break and we will finish our recap after that. Hey, this is Matt Jones. Now, I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero.

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goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. By the way, I just checked out, you know, we have people chat in here. So if you want to ask us questions, Eric, you can throw up some comments from the chat. I like what's going on here. People seem

to be happy that we had a game in Brazil. You know, I'm very, I will go to a question from Sam Bruce Smith here that says, are we sure the Packers upgraded and D coordinator? Okay, they gave up a bunch of big plays, but let's give it a little more time with Jeff Halfley. Like, I didn't see anything that makes me concern. This was just a crazy game. And yeah, Hurts, he looked, before I finally move on from the Eagles, like, he just looks so uncomfortable when he held the ball. Just like he's, he's not a creator right now. And so despite the numbers that he had, which were decent, like his awareness level was just like not really there this game. But that was also true for love. And so we'll talk about him. They both had near pick sixes. Love was kind of all over the

place with accuracy. Obviously, the injury. hangs over this game. But it was a game, I think, that we can expect out of Jordan Love. He is a wild horse. He is going to have ups and downs. I always remember when he was playing in the preseason. I just thought this defined him so well.

If you added up all of his preseason numbers before he became the starter, he was the NFL leader among, like, those three years for PFF's big time throws per snap and the NFL leader and turnover-worthy plays per snap. And he minimized, like, the wrist taking last year, but he's one of those guys. He's very farvian in that he's going to have like crazy amazing games and bad game.

Like to me, he's young Josh Allen before Josh out. I know he's a little cleaner than Josh Allen when it was in his first couple of years, but there's going to be just like wild up and downs. And this game had that. Who was the backup behind Josh Jacobs running back? He had a few runs where I was like, I think this guy is better than Josh Jacobs. He also got like, yeah, he had a 46 yard. He had a big run in this game.

Jacobs was started slow, but then he ended up finishing quietly with 84 yards on the ground, like started getting it going in the second half a little bit. But where do you see the Packers offensive line? Because I've always like just looking at someone like Brandon Thorne's rankings and seeing them at like 18 and seeing that they're kind of average. I just felt like for so much of the Farvin Rogers runs, they had just stalwart offensive linemen. and I don't know where this group ranks in comparison to those.

Where does he have him rank, by the way? Did you look? I bet pretty high. I think I saw about 18. Oh, really? See, I would have guessed they would have been higher. They've had some changes. Josh Myers also, their center got banged up on that same play that Jordan loved it at the end.

So we'll keep an eye on that Zach Tom at tackle. Like, it's a better group, I think, together than Elton Jenkins can play every different position. I actually expect them to be like a pretty good offensive line. Today, I would say they shut down. on your boy, Bryce Hoff, who was a little concerning. He wasn't on the field a ton. Nolan Smith played a little more than I expected, had a couple pressures. Josh Sweep played fine. Jalen Carter certainly had a good game. Jordan Davis made some plays. You mentioned Nikobi Dean, who was in the middle of a lot of good plays, also got burned for a big place, you know, but I think they got

to be happy that he's at least playing aggressive. Overall, I think the Eagles defense probably look better than the Packers' defense. My hope for Eagles fans out there is Eagles fans always for some reason, even though we won a Super Bowl in 2017, we go back to those early 2000s teams, the three straight, four straight NFC championship. And what I love, can I name drop? I was, I pitched this to Charles Barkley. You just said you texted, you know, with Kelsey earlier.

I love it. Yeah. I was drinking with Charles Barkley last week. And I said, what I loved about Jim Johnson was that he was this old professor that you never was worried he was going to take a head coaching job. You just knew that he was going to dial up some crazy stuff. And I love getting Vic Fangio at this stage in his career, where he's close to family in the Philadelphia area. He's already had a taste of head coaching. And now he can just sit back.

and be like the crazy defensive mastermind. Again, I feel like they dialed back the blitz because of the lack of traction. Like it felt very much like the Super Bowl field where like the Eagles had the most sacks in the history of the NFL and then couldn't generate any pressure on Patrick Mahomes. So maybe they will dial up more blitzes. I thought one thing he was doing schematically was like right before the snap would be moving Zach Bond from that middle linebacker position and then going from like like a four-down lineman and making him a fifth down lineman, almost like a bear front type

of thing. And so my hope is that Vic Fangio is going to enter his Jim Johnson era. And that holy of the D. Because the Eagles lost coordinators, I saw that during the game, like the third year of different OC and D.C. If he can be consistency, that I think will be huge for the franchise. Yeah. And there's kind of a cliche.

I've found covering Vic Fangio over the last 10 years or whatever as a coordinator because he's jumped around and then as a head coach, too. It's like his defense has always take time to get going because he's not someone who dumps it down. So he just then blames the players and hates the players if it doesn't work. Like pretty much most of last season in Miami, like he never really got over that. Like he didn't do a great job in Miami. They were clashing.

Yeah. And so that was personality. But it's also, it's complicated. And you could see it tonight. And so you saw the blown coverage on the J. Hayden Reed has that long 70-plus-yard touchdown. Jaden Reed is a player. Another long touchdown on a run, 33 yards.

I mean, he is a rare guy that is as quick as he is fast. He's so good short area, but he also has great straight-line speed. He might be the leading receiver for the Packers. But yeah, I saw some of that confusion in this game, but for the most part, you're right, they were creative. And actually, the numbers, and I would have agreed with you about the Blitz, but looking at my NFL pro, I'm telling you. I'm diving deep into this this year after these games.

Six for 12 against the Blitz for Jordan Love for 38 yards. So 3.2 yards again. So I don't think there was a lot of big plays. There were no sacks, but they basically got them to get rid of the ball quickly and they didn't make any big plays. So for the most part, I thought they had it dialed down. Now, like the Packers also helped them out. Jordan Love missed open receivers.

Some of those numbers with his, you know, in terms of his completion percentage, Like early in the game, Dantavian Wicks drops a couple passes because he slipped. I mean, there was so much slip, you know, I know I didn't like back your point about the field.

It's not because I worked for the NFL. It's obvious. It was a bit of a disaster. Now, that was the same story as during the Super Bowl game that they lost. It wasn't as bad. But I think the same thing happened here

and they said it on the broadcast. If they played this game in the afternoon, It would have been fine. The sun, you know, but they, they play it at night, and it's this grass field that hasn't had a lot of football on it. And it gets humid and it's dewy, and they're slipping all over the place. And it's a bit of a problem because they're not going to put that game in the afternoon because they want it in prime time. And you're right. It was kind of, it was embarrassing because it played a huge factor in the first half of this game.

Really, the whole game, I think just the players managed to adjust somewhat. You could see at the halftime interview, you know, when they're interviewing the coach and he's just, Like, it's a problem, you know, because everyone loves to talk about, oh, just change your cleats. The only thing that's good about a field like that is you avoid a lot of ACL issues because most of the time that's caught by like a cleat getting stuck in the turf. Green Bay question for you, were you surprised at how little Musgrave was playing? Because as an Eagles fan, I have watched tight ends destroy this team for two seasons. and for him to be like Kraft got more of the snaps,

but I just had heard about Musgrave for weeks and then I felt like he was barely out there. Yeah, I actually drafted him like as a backup in my fantasy league because I didn't know if I had a healthy guy for a week. I didn't play him, so I'm glad with that. I'm surprised it was it was one game. I could check the participation to see. I think he was out there a decent amount.

But to your point, I think Tucker Kraft is going to be a big part of their offense. They really like Tucker Kraft. They have so many players. To update Jordan Love, this will be the last one, at least like an official update for the night. Lefleur just said, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. The Twitter doctors aren't really in agreement.

I'm hoping what you say about the slipperiness means it's less serious than it could be. And yeah, you nailed it. A Musgrave only went out for eight routes in this game, 28. Eight routes. Yeah, I don't know the total snaps. And 28 for Kraft. So Kraft was the guy.

and they pretty much played Dobbs and read as the main receivers and Wicks as the third guy. And so, yeah, we spend all offseason kind of looking at this stuff trying to figure out. And yeah, we do, it is fun when we do get some answers. Let's speak to answers. Let's get another question from the commenters. Look, this is only the second time we've gone live on YouTube, Adam. So I appreciate you. Thanks for the invite, brother.

Yeah, I appreciate you doing it. Let us know, listeners out there. If you like the live, Mark Henry asked Philly put up 34 despite two bad picks, a fumble and a botch snap, taking a TD off the board. Should that make us feel better about Philly or worse about Green Bay? I would say better about Philly. I think Jason Kelsey, he keeps coming up. I saw a tweet he had after the game.

And I think he's right. And this is true about the Eagles a lot because their players are so good. He thought it was a great performance. Of course, he's going to overpraise them. But when they're great, they're pretty great. And they made a lot of great plays on defense and offense today. and they were quite sloppy. But I think it's a good thing that Philly had.

It's a reason why my friend Cynthia Freeland, who does all these computer models, she's into the analytics, she has them winning the Super Bowl, which is crazy. It's very, I think it's partly schedule-based and that the NFC is weak-based,

but it's also just their players are awesome, especially in the lines. And I think that's what the Eagles fans have to hang their hat on. From a flow of offense perspective, Again, it wasn't Stuyken level, which was, I mean, I still can't believe I got to watch that offense. And when I watched the Colts last year, I get glimpses of it. And that guy is just a mastermind. But it never, it did.

There was only a few drives where it felt really stagnant. And I felt like, I still think that one Hertz turnover was because they were expecting an off sides. Lane Johnson kind of let his guy rush and was just pointing that there was movement. But it, it didn't. they were able to get the ball to A.J. Brown in space. What you said about Hertz, the ability to throw intermediate routes was a huge issue last year. The Eagles offense last year felt like it was either a 40-yard pass or a bubble screen. And the fact that it was so little screen usage, I think a lot of Eagle fans are a little bit traumatized

whenever Kenny Gainwell is catching the ball in important positions. But even when he did, he had a huge broken tackle that turned into a first down. completely redeemed himself. The offense definitely for a new OC, a new center after a decade of a Hall of Fame Center, a new third wide receiver still trying to figure that out. I thought that they really did show a lot of promise. The question will be, what the heck were those throws by Jalen Hertz? The cross-body interceptions, the one to start the game to Xavier McKinney, the one towards

the end to Jair Alexander is what what was he seeing and what you said earlier too which was he didn't seem comfortable and so will that happen is it just week one because I think your point about it being extended preseason is valid as well right I mean he he honestly looked a little lost once he got past his first read and and he had the ball for two two and a half seconds so that that worries me and any kind of the book is out that he's always drifting uh to the the right. I'm looking at some of these comments and someone called you the name drop master over here. You know who else calls me that? Travis Kelsey. No, I'm just kidding. That's awesome. And yeah, people are excited to build up this live stream. I appreciate you,

Adam, for joining me on this. I think it's a big win for the Eagles. It would have felt really bad for them to lose this game. Packers fans, unfortunately, are fearing the worst right now. for Jordan Love, and yeah, we'll keep updating that situation. Ryan Tannehill is a free agent, just to kind of put it out there, because Malique Willis, I just don't think from what we've seen is ready to win games if he has to step in. Sean Clifford was their backup last year. I believe he's on their practice squad now.

They cut my boy Michael Pratt, who went to Tulane. He's now on the Bucks practice squad. So we'll see. We'll see what the Packers do. We cannot end on the note. cannot end on the note that the Green Bay Packers quarterback battle is going to be what we've been seeing in the Tennessee Titans for the last few years. Like Tannahill versus Malik, we're like, oh man, that's so sad. And I, and in Tannahill, frankly, looked a little cooked

last year. It was a tough situation in Tennessee. So they actually play the Titans in a couple weeks. They play the Colts next week, the Vikings after that. So, um, not a hard schedule. Not an easy schedule kind of a down the middle schedule for the Packers. The Eagles can feel much better about where they're at. And thank you for staying up so late. You're in a hotel. Where are you? You're down in Atlanta or something? I am in Atlanta, Georgia. We are getting ready. If you guys are listening to this on Saturday morning and you want to watch some football, myself, Hall of Fame cornerback Chant Bailey, the dancing sensation and wide receiver Victor Cruz and the all-time linebacker to Keio Spikes

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and how Idaho hasn't won there since 1921. So please join us because it will be. I love it. And yeah, just a note of hope

for Packers fans. It's a long season. I know it's such a bummer to start this way. So I'm thinking good thoughts for you. Hey, Xavier out McKinney. He looked great.

I think you got a good one. in Javon Bullard, your safety. All those weapons you got around. Amazing. Long term, it's all good. And hopefully the short term for Jordan Love will be good too. All right, that is it. We will be back on Sunday night.

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