NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Patriots saga, Top 100 & best offense in 2015

Episode Date: May 14, 2015

A room filled with heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler -- are joined by NFL Network's Lindsay Rhodes to discuss the Patriots' response in the "Deflategate" saga (7:53), the latest names revealed on the "The Top 100 Players of 2015" countdown (25:19), and play a new round of "What's your fancy?" (42:46).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast is better than the coaches show. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan. Finally, intro I can get behind.

That was my favorite one yet, TD. That was, there was nothing subtle about that shot across the bow. I think I came up with that one, actually. It was addictive enough to please Greg. I have a six in the morning interview with Brian Billick tomorrow. Well, he's not going to listen to this. Well, don't mention that. And so we got the four of us in the studio.

And we talked out how we got the fifth mic. We got it for a good reason. To my left, she's the host of around the NFL, the television edition, which is important. She's the face of the top 100 players of 2015 countdown and 2000. 2014 and 2013. She's also a Los Angeles area Emmy Award winner of her best sports feature, the Michael Reva's story, 2005.

Who said I don't do research? Lindsay Rhodes. Right. Straight from Wikipedia, folks. Always accurate. Where do you keep your Emmy? My Emmys are in my closet. Oh, Emmys.

Wow, you got more than one. Subtle correction. Very humble. That was good. Lindsay, welcome back to the NFL podcast. How are you? you i'm uh so excited to be here i can't i can't possibly begin to describe it well snap i got to document this we have i mean we were trying to figure this out yesterday what lindsay means

the top 100 countdown which is every wednesday night at 8 p m eastern time nine p m eastern time that wasn't in wikipedia that's why i didn't uh lindsay host the show uh along with some other some other talented people levar errington eric davis yes counting it down we're now through the first 20. So Lindsay is going to join us and talk about the top 100. And we were trying to figure out downstairs yesterday what Lindsay means to that show. You know, is it the Bob Costas of the NBC's Olympic coverage? That's, I went Bob Costas.

And you guys, these guys can't stand Bob Costas. I was saying she's more about, I love Bob Costa. She's kind of a mix between Joe Lenardi and Dick Vitell of college basketball. Because she's, you know, she's the face of it like Dick Fitell. But she's also kind of a brachatologist. You're always figuring out who's left on the list. You're into it. I am.

I've been told to tone down the nerdiness. You could be as nerdy as you want here. Yeah. Well, just being here is nerdy. This is an off day for you. You got a babysitter to come in here. They did. That's pretty impressive.

How about the Joan Holloway? You guys are worth it. These guys wouldn't do that. Mark. I don't have babies to sit. How about Lindsay is the Joan Holloway of the office of Sterling, Draper, Cooper, and Price? Is that taking it too far? I thought you could read into that in a number of different.

Oh, that's true. Yeah, you might have taken it too far. I would maybe have not preferred that analogy for obvious reasons. We'll stick with Dick Vital then. Let's switch gears for a minute. Yeah. Last time Lindsay was on, remember Dan was trying to come up with a nickname for himself? Oh, yes.

We've got one. Oh, what is it? He is Daddy Rich. All right, let's give her the option. Lindsey will settle it right now. The old Zeus, sir. The old Zeus. Which I'm not saying I love.

It's just something that has come out a few times kind of naturally. Originally from yourself. Yeah, yeah, third person. No, then it can't be. The old Zusser. It's like Kobe and Black Mamba. But no, it wasn't, see, whereas Black Mama and Kobe was a very, you know, calculated move, probably to move units of sneakers or something. It just, old Zucer just came out.

On your part, not calculated. If it came out of your mouth, I'm afraid I have to vote against it. And then the other option is Daddy Rich. I vote for Daddy Rich. All right. There it is. It's settled. Daddy Rich.

All right, we can go now. I'm not seeing a lot of excitement in the room. Mark? Well, I'm sad that you spoke old Zusa yourself because you could get old. I mean, you know, that would fit you for many years. Daddy Rich. I know Dan out of work, and Daddy Rich doesn't really resonate with what I'm seeing with Dan and Jen. This whole thing is a fabricated nonsense.

I mean, he chose, first of all, you knew she'd choose Daddy Rich. No, I didn't. It was a sign to me that you like this Daddy Rich. You've embraced this since West first brought it up. You knew this whole thing was rigged. Did I know what you were going to choose? It's logical No one would pick the old zooser if they were alive

The thing that swayed me Was the fact that you nicknamed yourself the old zoosa Because that's illegal It also reminds me of an old cat who's a mouser You know they call a cat a mouser Because it chases mice Wes Having it all been born after the 1880s

None of us know what you're talking about What the hell's going on? Yeah we're well off the track All right here we go So a big show today with Lindsay joining us. We are going to get into the top 100 as I said earlier. We're also

going to break out, you know, one of the real rising games within the around the NFL podcast sphere. What's your fancy, but, you know, better known as, Mark. Qualestu Fantasia. I like that. Not quite right. Qualistu Fantasia.

Oh, we come from different areas of that region. We have different dialects. One of you is from Seville. And by the way, I made the mistake today at work in the office of doing a Twitter search of Qualist Du Fantasia and I could have been fired if anyone was looking at my screen. Who would have known?

Wow. Wow. It got adult real quick. At our work whenever you do anything untoward on the internet not usually it's a referee pops. Right, a ref and he's blowing a whistle. Stop, get back to work and that didn't happen here. Oh, Twitter. It was the Wild Wild West. But before we get into those things

we're going to check behind the glass TD already on fire. He's got five mics. They seem to be all working. What a producer. What's going on, guys? And Greg, I know you love the open intro. Yeah. I know you love that. But just remember that at each show, like I did last show,

I'm going to giving out the podcaster of the show. Oh, we're still doing that? I'm not worried about that. Yes, we're sure doing that. Yeah. People seem to like it. You know what? Well, we're definitely better in the coaches, so because we exist.

You know, they go into hibernation for six months, and maybe or maybe not they come back in September. Well, also the big boys do it. You know, they take a little offseason. Take a little break. You can say the same thing for Jeremiah. Everybody just, like, shutting it down. and then they come back and hope no one notices,

but people notice. That hibernation brings their average show length down to three and a half minutes. Speaking about your new nickname, we wanted to have a producer called Crystal Rich, short for K. Rich. That could have been really awkward. Daddy Rich, K. Rich.

That's true. But she's gone. She's gone now. I don't find that out at all. All right, you know, let's listen to this. Click that for your Emmy Reel. What? Whoa, what was that from?

I don't even know where that's from. Where are you getting this stuff? No, it doesn't need to happen again. Oh, what? That's a keeper, T-D. We've got to use that. Whether Lindsay's on the show or not, that should be in the rotation. My man behind the glass year with me, Brandon, found this on YouTube.

It's a show open. On YouTube? Total access, yes. You're all over the end. That's in the regular rotation. Okay. Third time. I think we've heard it enough.

All right, just real quick, though, show of hands. Who in the air has? Emmy Award. You know, by the way, a show of hands doesn't work in an audio podcast. He said in here, you're behind the whole show. Oh, you just to raise your hand? Let the record show he was raising his hand.

TD, that is highly unbecoming of you. Can we please do some news? Congratulations on your award. Wow. Barry Horowitz. Are you allowed to do that on a podcast? It will get beeped, 239. We hope it'll get beeped.

He's going to get me fired. Here we go. Let's get into it tomorrow. Let's get to it. Starting with, all right, we know the Ted Wells report is out. And Ted Wells, Ted Wells in a fiery manner, you know, hit out against the Patriots and Tom Brady's agents saying anybody that would question me and my integrity is off. Well, the Patriots double down.

And on Thursday, released on a website, they basically launched a whole website, the Wells Report Context.com, nearly 20,000, words of rebuttal to Wells's report, which basically, you know, we all knew the Patriots and Tom Brady's camp are unhappy now. Here it is. These are all the reasons why we think the Wells report is crap, basically, and this is why you find out hours later that Tom Brady formally appeals his four-game suspension. Greg, we'll start with you. We said it felt like we were heading towards lawyering up and potentially a real battle. It looks like here it is. it's here and it's disappointing it reminded me as i was going through it and i read most of it

and i did the thing the post for the site it started to remind me of the lockout that no one looks good everyone is a loser so if you're coming up with winners and losers the NFL is a loser the patriots are losers tom brady's a loser we're losers because we have to cover this the network's a you know because they have to cover it all day it's just just it's kind of at that point that that that's my takeaway from it lindsay your thoughts i don't even know where to start because i there i have so many thoughts about it uh the the the rebuttal and full disclosure i haven't finished reading it i'm i don't even know how far you're not alone i am because it doesn't have pages so i'm just scrolling down and it appears that i'm about

three quarters of the way through it but uh some of it i think insults my intelligence and some of it is kind of plausible. And I wish that they had just stuck to the points that were plausible. Right. So that, you know, give me a reason to believe that this happened a different way. And there are some parts of it where I read that and I say, okay, maybe it could have gone down like that. And that does raise an interesting point.

How would he have, you know, laid all the balls out in the bathroom in a minute and 40 seconds and deflated them but not deflated them too much and never deflated the same ball twice. I mean, if you think about it, there's a lot. They made some good points, is my point. But then there were other elements of it where I was like, that is so absurd. I'm embarrassed for you for suggesting that.

I mean, they messed up, obviously, in my opinion, because what Lindsay's saying is true, like they did, they went after some things that were maybe hazy in that report, but then they threw in things that became like the focal point for a lot of people, such as the reference to McNally being the

deflator, not having anything to do with deflating footballs, but that McNally, and this is the wording on this website, was a, quote, big fellow and was trying to lose weight. Also, the wording that McNally saying he was going to go to ESPN, that was explained away as being, it had nothing to do with him telling them coming clean about the deflation of the balls. It was about the sneakers and his boss maybe not being happy that these things were going on behind the boss's back, handing out sneakers and other apparel. So that's what it seems like the media.

grabbed on to. Well, I think that's a good point. 20,000 words, and they should have known that the media would sensationalize or make silly their silly points. I mean, of course the media is going to do that. But then you lose track of good points, like, why were people in the NFL office going along with ESPN's reports that the balls were initially 2 PSI below the limit when, in fact, they were just a fraction below the limit?

And that drove the hysteria of the story from the beginning. Well, because it raised the question, would have the Wells report even been commissioned if the ESPN report, which has been proven, you know, conclusively to be way off is a bad day for them and Chris Mortensen? Would the Wells report even have existed if that initial report didn't come out? Probably not, because that was really the kickstart to everything going on that weekend. Well, I have one question. So if the Patriots say that, listen, this is all squeaky clean. and we are going to send out a on-the-road Jack Kerouac like scroll on WordPress to bombard you with. Why did they punish the two ballboy guys? And I say guys because they're in their 30s and 40s.

Everyone thinks of them as 17 and 18-year-olds. They're actually grown men, one of them with a weight issue apparently. They texted each other, OMG. There are questions. I mean, that's one of my biggest problems with the evidence that was set before me was that you have grown men responding to your tech messages. Were there emojis? Let's get into that.

Tiddy, can I get a little music just because it feels like this type of music these guys listen to. Mark and I were going to read a text exchange between Jim McNally and John Dostremski. What's up, Dorito Dink? Nata. When's the Pong party? I'm on fire. OMG.

Bring it. You still with your women? Yep. You must have her omitted out of respect to Mrs. Dr. Stremski. You must have a picture her admitted out of respect to Mrs. Dostremski.

Oh, M.G. You working? Yep. Nice, dude. Jimmy needs some kicks. Let's make a deal. Come on. Help the deflater.

It was trying to lose weight. Yeah. Because I'm fat. I think Lindsay hit it on the head because my first reaction was watching Twitter explode over as you said certain silly points in it. I haven't even gotten to that.

I'm assuming most everyone in this room and pretty much everyone talking on TV hasn't read the 20,000 words. But if you stripped that stuff out and you just responded in a very serious matter to the many points you could have made, you solve yourself the trouble and people might see this whole thing is, I think we're at a point of frustration because it all seems so silly along with everything else. Of course, and I think they went with a kind of legal strategy, which was the kitchen sink, which is that you just tried to refute all 87 points that the wells are, report made, whether you had a good argument for it or not, instead of just focusing on the

stuff that was interesting, including the gauges, which I didn't really understand too much ahead of time, but that was the first 5,000 words were about how the two different gauges had different measurements and the case that they made that it was misleading that the way the Wells report presented information was a very strong case and pointed a finger at Walt Anderson and how the NFL handled things. And I think as I'm reading this, what I thought was the Patriots bending the rules or cheating, whatever you want to call it, and the NFL doing a poor job handling it and punishing them incorrectly, they're not mutually exclusive.

I mean, they both can be completely true. See, I read the Gages part, though, and I found much of the Gage's argument to be comical. I thought that they were asking us to believe a lot of things that just a logical person would jump to the same conclusion that the Wells report did and to like, yes, there were two gauges that were used at halftime and whether it was or was not the same gauge that was used in the pregame, they did two separate measurements of each ball for both the Patriots and the Colts, the four Colts balls that they measured at halftime. and they they they they they what they what they don't get into or what they don't address is that the point here is that the difference in drop off was so much greater for the Patriots balls than it was for the Colts so then I don't even understand why they would go to the ideal gas law because you would seem to think that that would also impact the Colts balls I mean a lot of it is really scientific stuff that we're not in legal stuff that we're not going to understand the ideal gas. I mean, they have a guy who's won, what, the Nobel laureate explaining why he thinks the atmospheric conditions could completely explain what happened. But who are we to like... They're leaning hard on that stuff, the Patriots, the science of it. Who are we to judge it? The Patriots say that they received written notice the day after the game that the league had made

a preliminary finding that the Patriots may have tampered with the pressure of the footballs. And that is in their, in their rebuttal, proof that the league had already come to a conclusion of fault. And that's why the people that they hired to be their independent investigators were hired to prove this. To me, that says that they found enough evidence to launch an investigation. Well, they tried to take the argument to explain the difference in the two balls that we had the ball, the whole first half, that the Colts were so bad in the game that our balls were used, our footballs were used, three quarters more of the time than Indianapolis. And they also brought up how in the pre-game preparation, it's out-season.

It's all just ridiculous. The whole thing's ridiculous. But see, they even, they went, so. That was their argument to answer that question. They haven't argued the sting operation, but Don Yee has argued that it was a sting operation in which they were set up. But then they said that they had a problem that despite the concerns expressed by the Colts prior to the game, the officials didn't write down the pregame PSI measurements,

which if they had, that would lead me to believe that they saw fit to build a case. because if you know that they're at 12.5 and all but two of them were at 12.5 when they measured them before the game and then they just put a little bit more error in two of them so they measured out at 12.5. If you're the officials, all you really care about is, okay, so I'm keeping an eye on the balls to make sure that they're taking care of properly. If I know that they're 12.5 going into the game,

I don't feel the need to build a legal case to back that up because I'm not sure that anyone's cheating. This whole issue, this debate that we're having, It just goes to show that it's a trivial, very trivial thing that happened with no definitive conclusions, and that's my problem all along. How do you give somebody a four-game suspension, a million-dollar fine, and a first-and-round draft pick when there are very few definitive conclusions? How do we see this playing out? Because now you have Jeffrey Kessler involved.

It's going to be appealed, and I think eventually it ended up in federal court. It was appealed, so Tom Brady appealed it today in the NFLPA. How does it end? Let's stay focused on just the suspensions for Tom. The suspension, if I'm just going to take a guess, I think that the Patriots, it's complex. Start with Brady, I think he gets down to one game. Well, you can't answer the question until we, it's, of course, it's all speculating. My point is, Roger Goodell is the one that names the arbitrator. He will name someone independent.

He's not going to see it. I don't think he'll oversee it. You know how much he would get for that? But he could name someone a little more in-house because it's his right to do so. That would be a bad move. But it's in the CBA. that he can do it, and that's how they've often done it throughout the NFL history. But doesn't Brady and his counsel then have the option to take it to federal court?

Well, they could go to court. That's separate from the suspension. I mean, the federal court's not going to talk about it. Goodbye off-season. That's my two words. I think if we have a neutral arbitrator, the entire suspension will be wiped away. I think the case is that week. And Goodell has to worry about that. I agree with you for Brady. He has to worry about that because, you know, they sent it to Paul Tagliaboo. He wasn't so kind on the NFL. he sent it to, what's her name?

Barbara Jones. She wasn't too kind to the end of the girl. So they got to be careful here who it goes to. I think if they're smart, they send it right back to Barbara Jones or somebody who has ruled against them recently because at this point, just from a PR standpoint, I don't understand what the league had to gain from finding fault with the Patriots.

To me, just as an outsider looking at this, I would have thought if they were going to sway this at all, if they were going to cheat this investigation, they would cheat it the other way because this is a team that just won your largest game of the season, the game that everyone watches. He's the Super Bowl MVP.

It makes it look like that game is tainted. They have something to lose from the Patriots and Tom Brady being guilty, not the other way around. The one thing that bubbled up today from some people was that where Goodell has gained respect, and this isn't coming from,

you know, this is just whispers from the 31 other teams and owners who thought he would favor the Patriots and he went in the other direction that some of those, owners and teams feel that he did the right thing? I think it gets upheld. I think there's enough

in terms of the Patriots not working with the investigation. I think the whole idea that the NFL had something to gain from dragging the Patriots and specifically Tom Brady through the mud. I think they'll see through that as not something the NFL wanted and I think it will be upheld. That's just my opinion. I don't think there's

enough there for Brady. Like to me they haven't connected the dots. Having read the Wells report, I don't. I think he's being punished. I think it'll get knocked down just because they didn't make a strong enough case. I hear what you're saying, but I think it would get knocked down. Before we move on, I do have a couple other. The bigger picture points are more

interesting to me than, I mean, almost feels like talking back and forth about the PSIs. It's almost like we're falling for the banana and the tailpipe. Like, we shouldn't be talking about this nonsense. Patriots fan wants to bury details. No, no, but there are a couple of big things. Here, one is that, when is the last time

an owner? I mean, this was the moment where the Patriots started going hard after the NFL. It is at a very interesting moment in a league that prides itself on all 32 teams, you know, collectively own everything. We all think about the greater good of the league. This is the most powerful or one of the most powerful owners going at the guy who ended the lockout.

Right, exactly. The guy who got praise for ending the lockout is now challenging the authority of the NFL. That's a big, pretty big deal. Where does this go? Does he become that guy? They don't want that. It's a pretty big deal. For the NFL large, it's bad news.

That's why it's so different, too, because Al Davis, we all know, was a cowboy, and he was kind of a renegade guy. Kraft isn't that guy. He wears Air Force ones. Well, that's true. That's a great point. In fact, I've been shut down completely by the Air Force on. Oh, my. But, no, like, Kraft has never been that guy you would think would go outside the box like that.

No, he's the closest thing you get to an assistant commissioner among the owners. It has to make Goodell feel very uncomfortable. And, I mean, it's a bat. for a league that prides itself on the 3200s are all speaking as one, it's a really bad moment. And then I wonder, you know, is it going to turn off casual fans at all? No, not at all. Maybe this is over rating it.

It's May. Absolutely not. The season will start. This stuff happens every year. If Ray Rice and everything else didn't turn fans off, this will not either. I don't mean that the ratings are going to go off. Just, no. Just for a league that's so concerned about PR, it's another.

If anything, it will people, people will just be hungrier for real football to begin because of this tedious nonsense that we're going to spend all. I agree with Mark, but I also see what you're saying, that at a certain point, there could be a tipping point, enough black eyes for the league. People are going to get turned off by the product. Does it not take critical thinking for fans to get tired of this? I think the hysteria of the issue in the first place shows that there's not much critical thinking going on. I'm basing it on my wife, really, who is my placeholder as a casual fan.

not a Patriots fan at all, and she's vaguely annoyed by different things that have come up over the years, certainly, but this was one where it's just like, she's saying this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. If everyone at the league office and everyone at the NFL network and the Patriots and the lawyers, like if you had all spent that time to do something productive instead of deflating a little football, like how many, that's tens of millions of dollars of productivity and money, being flushed down the toilet for like a little deflation of football. It's just insane.

My barometer, my brother, and my husband, and they feel the exact same way. I think it's an excellent point. I think that the rest of the world is reporting this story and looking at the story so much different. And we're going to look back in 10 or 15 years and say, are you kidding me that this much was made out of this story? I have almost never been asked to do like a radio hit in London, but they, one of the talk radio stations there. Almost. That means they're having multiple. But I'm just saying, but I'm just saying. Did you do it with an accent?

I did it this week, and they were baffled. I mean, that was the word they were used. They were trying to get me to explain what's going on with the footballs and the deflation. Well, why would they do? I was trying to explain it in normal turds. Greg seamlessly builds his own brand in the middle of the podcast. Can you move on, Greg? No, that's it.

Greg's Sonic Billboard has been erected. You ready? Let's move on. Raising. All right, so... TD's on fire today. Okay, yes, TD, you're doing great. Five mics just right off the top.

And now you're rolling with the drops. And away we go. He's engaged this time. It must be because Lindsay's here. Yeah, I know, exactly. We need Lindsay here for you to pay attention. We have a fellow Emmy Award winner. We need a Lindsay hologram that just sits here.

All right. So, speaking of Lindsay, the top 100 players of 2015 countdown is back. It launched last week with the first. 10 players and then on Wednesday night we got the next 10 players so 20 have been revealed going all the way to number 1 and uh I don't know how do you want to get into this

should I let me just go down I'm going to go down the list real quick Randall Cobb at 100 Callais Campbell Adam Vinitieri Joe Flacco Jrell Casey Emmanuel Sanders C.J Mosley Jason Witten Aaron Donald Julian Edelman Michael Bennett at 90 Greg Olson Glover Quinn

DeMarcus Ware Eric Weddle Golden Tate Terrell Suggs Marquis Pounce Halotinata and Darren Sproles at number 81. That's where we're at so far. And Greg, I'm going to start with you on this. Actually, before we do that, before we do that, you've got to the expert here.

I want to just ask Lindsay, how long have you been doing this countdown now? Since it started, which was 2011. Wow, okay. So what are your thoughts about the Top 100 countdown in a macro sense? That's a really wide-ranging question. Yeah, well, that's what I do.

do. I think it's always interesting to see how the players view their peers and how it changes from year to year. I think one of the things that I thought in year one was that it might not fluctuate that much from year to year. And so how do you have sustainability if it's kind of the same names over and over again? But like, oh, Peyton's number three, but this year he's number four. You know, it's like, is there much debate involved with that?

But there has been a lot of turnover from year to year. You have something, I don't know what it is this year. I want to say it's like 40 players that are. new to the list, which means that 40 players that were on the list are no longer on it. And I think that the first handful of weeks are probably some of the better shows. They're not the bigger names. But once you get towards the top of the list, I mean, because I'm nerdy, I could pretty much tell you like, okay, here's who's left.

Here are the 20 names. I've done the math. There's 12 quarterbacks. There's 19 wide receivers. There's, I think, 11 running backs. It's like you could make a list right now and figure out kind of who they are, especially once you start knocking some of them off. I think we've had four wide receivers

that have come up so far, so I've got my list of 19. You're counting the cards. Sort of. But I mean, even if you're not counting the cards, once you get to 20, you're like, okay, so JJ Watt, Aaron Rogers, Peyton Manning. I mean, anybody can rattle off the people that they think are probably there. Lindsay does not know.

I do not. That's the fascinating part of it to do the show that way. Well, you guys know because you're by my desk, that I spend the next 10, I spend 10 weeks with like my fingers in my ears in the newsroom and I get very angry if anything is tipped off to me like legitimately angry because we go on this reaction show and you not only are reacting to the 10 names that were just revealed but you're sort of trying to figure out what it means for the list moving forward and you can't have these conversations and have them be legitimate organic fun conversations if you know

the answers if you're faking it Lindsay sits right next to us and what we get we have to write a post that we roll out right when the list goes live. So we'll sometimes get a look at it before Lindsay sees it unveil. So it's created some tension, let's face it, within the dynamic of around the NFL and Lindsay Rose. What's the dumbest player ranking you've ever seen on this list? Jimmy Graham wasn't on it too much. Oh, yeah.

That's easily done it. I mean, we've been writing about the show as long as it's been on the air, and we've sometimes raged against the list for that very reason. Something, I think Julio Jones got left off last year. Aaron Rogers, not in the top 10 last year? Yeah, and then even things like even DeMarcus Ware, he drops 31 spots. Joe Flacco is all over the list. So there's, if nothing else, it's great for debate.

There's a kicker on the list this year? Joe Facko ranks one spot ahead of a kicker. Right, and Vinatieri's not even the best kicker in the league at all, is he? Last year he was pretty damn good, but still. He doesn't do kickoffs. Ranks below him. Well, at one point, Joe Flacco was in the top 30 or so coming off the Super Bowl. And the weird thing is he's a better quarterback now than he was then.

So is Eli Manning, and I would bet that Eli is ranked lower now than he was. No, Eli Manning's not on this list. I don't know that for my act. Because he's a few years removed. The further you are from your Super Bowl is directly proportional to your ranking. The thing is they give us random clues, and that's, you know, with me, I almost have to be careful. Like, yesterday they gave us too many clues, and it gave away one of the players. Like they said, we knew that there was one center on the list.

One player that dropped 58 spots, one player from Notre Dame. Then I saw that NFL media's PR department had tweeted out a former defensive player of the year was on the list. And I was like, well, there was a former defensive player of the year who happened to fall in that 10-name range that would be one of the 58 players who could possibly have dropped that far. Or one of the 10 players that could have possibly dropped 58 spots. And so I was like, before the show went on, just based on those two, you know it was sizzle. To Wes's point about the value of a Super Bowl win, not just for the quarterback especially, but really any of the players that are on that Super Bowl run, Terrell Suggs has taken a dive since he won a Super Bowl.

But also Joe Flacko is a great example. He's been on the list all five years now, 90, 74, 18 after he won the Super Bowl. So he was a top 20 player as of two years ago, 58 and then now 97. Although 97 might be right. Yeah, well, the first in the last year, 90 and 97, That feels like they might have it. I think it shows you, too, that the players, we can sit around and stare at metric sites all day long and watch our own game tape. These guys play against these players.

And I think there is some amount of reverence for what Flacco did during that Super Bowl run. That's fresh off people watching him go on a three or four game hot streak that was outrageous. And maybe they thought he's turned the corner. He's a new guy. He just won the Super Bowl. That's a ton of respect from players. And then, you know, nothing since. It's close.

And so he drops. He tumbled. He played awesome in the elimination game last. I made a face because you can say what you want about these numbers in May, say he deserves to be 97. Come January, you're scared to death of facing Joe Flacco. Your Patriots are scared to death of facing Joe Flacco. Your P-scale is at 7 to 9 at least.

He was definitely not the reason they lost. They had a half a decent defense. Also, so he's the 12th ranked quarterback because he was the first one revealed near 12 quarterbacks on the list. Sounds about right. The way that they do the voting for this is they hand a player list with 20 open spots. And they say, tell me who you're 20. best players are in the league and those you know one is weighted more than 20 so who's putting joe flacko

in they're 20 right now well who's putting darren sproles he's 81 on the list like derrick sproes gets 700 yards every year i mean there i like darren sproles but think about that i think he had at least one prime time sunday night game where he went nuts yeah and i think sometimes that's all takes and that's not just the football players that happens with api voters all the time you know being on prime time a lot can help you but that means so someone waited a Sproles or someone else very, very high, higher than he should have been and he lands on this list

because of not vote or fraud but like weird voting, weird decisions by these players. All right, Greg. Possibly. Every year there's a WTF moment. Okay, of course there was the famous Charles Clay number 100 a couple years ago.

Dennis Pitta. He was in the 80s was Clay. Oh, Clay. Pitta was 100, I believe. And now this year coming in at Number 88. 88, but I disagree with you. Tell me why you think. I'm with Lindsay on this.

I've come back on it after my initial reaction. Walk it back, Greg. I am. I don't, I think if you were taking your best 100 players in the NFL, there's no way Glover Quinn would be one of your first hundred. He did make the proble. But he is coming off of a good season. Leading the NFL in interceptions is not a sign you're a good player.

A lot of people lead the league in interceptions doesn't really correlate. Tommy cheated. I wrote an article last November when Cam Chancellor was injured saying that Glover Quinn and James Aheadaboke are rivaling them for the best safety pair in the NFL. He was playing that well at the time, and I think it's easy to look back in January or May and say, who's Glover Quinn? Well, I think of it as 2015, not 2014. So that was partly what I'm thinking. If you're asking GMs to pick 100 players, I don't think anyone of the 30 are taking Glover Quinn. I don't think anyone's taking a 42-year-old kicker either.

The problem for you, Greg, is you put this in print. And it's there forever. Yeah. You should talk with this. You can change it here, but it doesn't mean it. Like your article on Locke's. We all have articles we wish didn't exist. All right.

Let's do, before we move on, the top five, let's guess our top five. Lindsay, you can recuse yourself for this if you want to do it. Or you want to do it. Yeah, no. I don't know if you're allowed to. The bylaws of the top 100 game. Are we guessing our top five or saying who we think should be? Who you think are the top five players of.

2015 end and you know same rules as on the show it's not really who had the best season just who right now who do i have it right listen to the 2015 season with you've seen the the promo that airs yeah exactly yeah all right the christin cavalry commercial but the promo oh well actually while you bring it up you are a big fan of Pinterest cavalry oh and it's not so much no it's not so much that i'm not a fan of cavalry i think that commercial isn't maybe her best work you don't Um, no dick, Buccas? Wait, the chemistry between the cavaliery was. Her and Butkus, that chemistry is just electric.

I just agree. What was it? Hmm, tough guy, huh? That sounds like you guys grew up in the same area. You know what? It's funny we did. No, that's not funny. Where did you grow up, Lindsay?

In L.A.? I grew up in Lake Forest, which is the city that's just inland of Laguna Beach. Hmm. So pretty close. So, we're practically the same person. Well, you know, could be worse. I like Kristen Cavalry. I should share it to you in any.

I don't know who she is. I don't know who she is. Not dislike Chris and Cavalry. I've just, that commercial great. I've seen that at 70 times. I have no idea what she's talking about when she says game. She goes game day glam. What is that?

It's Pinterest, bro. What is Game Day glam? She's looking at Pinterest for ideas and dishes and things. That's what Pinter is. When we sell the podcast, can you make sure he sell it as Rhodes, Slams, Cavalary? Please don't do. All right. I almost called you Kristen.

Lindsay, what are your top five players of 2015? Yeah, so, okay, as soon as I argued my way into this conversation, I realized they don't have that list organized yet. Do you want us to come back to? All I know is that Rogers is number one, and I would put Watt number two. I think I agree. Does everyone agree with the one two?

No. Oh, really? Oh, hey. I'll put Watt. I ended last season. It says the best players, not the most valuable players. So in terms of how great he is as a great player, it's not the guy I'm starting my team with,

but at JJ Y, he's the best player. He's been the best player I've ever seen. I disagree. I think Aaron Rogers is the best player. I have what. I wish the people listening could have seen Greg just like. We deal with this all the time. Usually we don't like that song, but this time it proved my point.

I can't get on Greg. Watt is historically dominant in his position. but Aaron Rogers at the same level is doing the same thing and only a more important position so I got to go with the quarterback 5th it's not the most valuable Well you did the same thing last year

Well it doesn't change the way I feel Like I don't care about any other position I have four quarterbacks and then JJ Watt To me the Watt is better at what he does By far than what Rogers is that he is In terms of compete But that's how you get a kicker in the top 100 Who's the next closest quarterback in the NFL?

Right now Yeah The one who's suspended him for four games. Brady and Luck. Oh. Too soon. Rogers, look, I love luck. You know that.

But Rogers is way better than him. I think Watt to who's the next guy behind Watt. Nandamikin Su? No. Over quarterback? There you're talking about it. Defensive linemen. You're talking at his position.

So I'm going to Watt. Then, A. Rod. All right. I got fired up and thought you're putting him like in the top five. See, the rest of your top five. Do you have it for us? I don't have an order. I think to Marco Murray is pretty high this year.

Ooh. Interesting. Coming off the year he had. Juicy. Brady, Peyton, that quarterbacks do go heavy at the top. Mark, your list. Those two will be up there somewhere. Who are your four quarterbacks?

I go Rogers. Yeah. He is far and high above all the rest. Number two, I go Brady. I just love Tom Brady. Okay. Big Ben, number three. Andrew Luck number four, J.J. Watt, number five.

Wes? Best player. Who do I want to go into the 2015 season? Yep. Aaron Rogers, J.J. Watt, Grunk. Oh, Gron. That's right. Adrian Peterson,

Odell Beckham. See, I thought I would be... I knew Beckham would be on your list. Of course. He was the most unstoppable player. I like that list. Here's my top five. I thought about Beckham.

I thought about Des Bryant. I wanted to put a wide out, but I went with someone else. Aaron Rogers 1, J.J. Watt, 2, Tom Brady 3, Andrew Luck 4, Julio Jones, 5. I heard a stat on Julio Jones yesterday. No chance, Julio Jones. Well, we're not trying to predict it.

We're not trying to predict it. We're saying our job. Oh, okay, okay. You think Julia will make the list this year. Yeah, for sure. He better. I have Watt. You go Watt first.

Roger's second. Wow. Adrian Peterson third. And in these lists, they never recognized the guys who weren't there last year. So he might not even be on the list. You know, he's going to get buried. I give credence to the tip on the shoulder factor. But he should just, he is the next greatest player.

By the way, Greg, you've just built the Houston Texans over the Green Bay Packers. Have a nice time with that. I'm going to go, Brady next. And Levyon Bell, maybe let's throw away. in as number five. You got the all suspended team. That's a good one. That's a good one.

I think Lynch, Marshon. Three of your players have been suspended or will have been suspended in the last 12 months. He's probably never, I don't know how high. Orties and 40s. That's my MMO. I don't know, but I think this has got to be his highest year. Who? I would put him high.

You think the way that they ended the season, Marshaun Lynch proved how valuable he was, how much he changed. The guy that would have won the Super Bowl for him if they had given him. Grand really should be in the top five, actually. I take out well. One thing about Peterson, I know. generational player and all that, but he wasn't that great. We get on Lashon McCoy and say he was over the hill or heading that direction

because he didn't have a great season last year. Look at Adrian Peterson's season before he got suspended. It wasn't anything close. Look at the season before that. Okay, we can do the same thing with Lashon McCoy and then say they should have never done this great. He's way better than McCoy. That year, though, his numbers were misleading because of the team he was on and the

quarterback he was playing with. When you watched him, he still looked like the best running back in the league. The team the year before, when he remember 2,000 yards, he carried that team the same way. I thought he looked great. I thought people that were talking about his demise that next season weren't watching. All I'm saying, 30 years old, out of the league for a full year, not coming off that. Fresh legs, tip on shoulder. I'm just saying I've got to see it again.

I guess I'm going to get proven wrong by Peterson two years in a row. We'll see what happens. Lindsay, who do you got then? You got two more, three more on the list. Do I? Yeah. Did he put him in? Well, yeah, I don't know about the order.

I'm sorry. First, it was my nickname. name and now it's the top five. I know. I'm failing you. So Rogers Watt, I like your Lavion, actually. I might kick DeMarco Marie out. But DeMarco was, it just had such a good season.

I could see him getting overrated on this list. I wouldn't put him in my top of 40. He wasn't playing that well by the end of the year. Okay, then I'm going to put Brady 3. I like that. And then I'm definitely not going OBJ that high. Your loss. I'll go Lynch, four.

Mm-hmm. And then I'll go I'll go Peyton 5 still Respect for the old timer I think the players in the league When you just ask around Regardless of how he finished the season They all think that Peyton's a game changer

Or one of the best ever and still is Yeah All right So that's it That's our top 100 talk And every Wednesday night 9 p.m. Eastern Lindsay Rhodes is the host

Counting it down all the way to number one You better what? You better Because that would be not cool If you didn't It's good programming. Next week's list includes, and this is 80 to 71, two quarterbacks and one rookie.

Two quarterbacks, wait, let's figure out. Two quarterbacks. Who are the two quarterbacks in? Cam Newton. Cam Newton's got to be one. Why? Well, it just seems like he's the next line. He won't be top eight. He'll probably be like in that 10-11 reach.

Stafford maybe? I don't think Stafford's going to make it. I'd be surprised if he did. My vote is Matt Ryan. Oh, Ryan. Yeah, I think you're right. I think Cam and met Ryan. There's only one way to find out.

You've got to tune into NFL network next Wednesday at 9 p.m. Eastern, 8 p.m. Central. The rookies have it right here. I can just tell you. You know what? You're making things weird. Stop it, Greg. I'm going to go with Khalil Mack as the rookie.

Don't make me pull your hair. I'll tell you if you're right around. Cool Mac, that's a good one, Wes. I agree with Wes. All right, let's move on. Finally, let's get into it, you know, a rising game within the culture of around the NFL. Some people call it, what's your fancy. but the real people call it

Qualas du Fantasia Do you want to try it, Lindsay? Yeah. Well, you got it. Oh, sorry, I thought you were asking if I wanted to play the game. Okay, while the music's still playing. Qualest to Fantasia. That's good.

Fantasticia. That's pretty good for a... Fun to say. So really, it's a fancy way. It's like an either-or game. So we'll each, we'll go around the horn here and each throw out a scenario, and then we all decide which one,

which either or, what's your fancy? Qualest du Fantasia. And we'll start. I'll get it going. That is the creepiest Spanish-speaking individual I've ever listened to it. I once tried the German. Oh, yeah.

I should remember. It was Voss in Guelfalt. Don't try to take over the world. Alex Drawick, one of our photographers downstairs. She knows French. So I said, oh, it would be great to get somebody saying it in French. and she declined.

She's like, all right. They weren't moved by her. Listen, you want to be involved? She's not going to be exploited. She's a multi-language speaker and she's not going to be exploited on the podcast. All right. That was French Club president.

Really? Well, say it. I don't know. It's been 20 years since. I don't know how to say fantasy and French. I can just imagine those meetings. Fancy. A lot of crepes.

What's going on at there? Like, can we drink? All right. I was like 17. Okay. Well, I don't know. All right. Here we go.

You are Reggie McKenzie. Now, you know, let that soak in for a second. Wow. You're writing Star Wars fan fiction in your study when the phone rings. Right, now you're going to Sessler. Oh, let's have some fun with it. I like it. It's Robert Kraft.

The Pat's owner explains that he's had an awakening and now realizes his team's continued deflategate fight will cause permanent damage to the brand if it goes any further. He repeatedly utters, I need to blow it up. I need to blow it up. over and over again. It's actually a little weird. He then offers a trade that causes you to spit out your drink. Khalil Mack, Amari Cooper, and a 2016 first-round pick in exchange for Tom Brady.

Craft is manic. He's jump. He's on edge. He says, take it or leave it right now. If you wait 30 more seconds, hanging up this phone and this conversation never happened. Well, let's do Fantasia. Mark. I do it.

I like Tom Brady. You suddenly have a franchise quarterback in a division. A gutter team, 38-year-old quarterback, one of the best ever. An excellent defender in Cleo Mac. An unknown in Aramari Cooper, probably a great wide receiver. Oh, you're trading them. You can find that down the road. You've got Tom Brady for another couple seasons.

I'd do it. Wes. You'd do it if you're Reggie McKenzie, you're saying. I guess that's the only option. Well, all right. I think that it's enough me if I'm writing Star Wars fan fiction. I'm trying to understand it. I'm trying to understand it.

Yeah, you're the gym of the radio. In this exercise, I am pulling the trigger. Wes. You know how I feel about franchise quarterbacks, but you can't do this if you're Reggie McKinsey. Tom Brady's 38 years ago, one bad hit, and you just lost Cleo Mac a first-round pick. And did you say Marri Cooper and a future first-round? Right. You just lost all of that talent, and one hit could end Tom Brady's career at this point.

And you'll never be a GM again if this move blows up. Reggie McKenzie's never going to be a GM again anyway. That's why I do it. Exactly. Exactly. Derek Carr, we don't know how good he could be once he has a legitimate. Well, hypothetically, you keep him On the bench, you give him two years behind Brady

And then he put him in these 25 or 26 years. And he doesn't have anyone to throw too And he doesn't have a first round pick next year To bring in more to, and I say no. He could have replaced Brady with Manning at this point last year And then look where you'd be now, not knowing whether your quarterback can throw anymore. Greg.

I take it. I do the deal. I always like when it's 2.3 or 2.2. Because like you said, Wes, he's never going to be a G. him anyways. I don't think they have any hope with what they have now, and he's going to be out there. You add Tom Brady to your team, that's pretty cool.

You never know what. It's pretty convincing. We've killed them for everything they've done up to now, so this would be something that we can't kill him on. Well, West would apparently. No, I mean, I think that's a pretty convincing point that at least you could compete for a division title if Tom Brady was a quarterback. I know this was such a good one. I know

we aren't supposed to do this, but what if we flipped it around? Would you make that trade if you were a Robert Kraft? Yes. You would. If you like Jimmy Garapolo. No. No. Well, Belichick has made a history of getting rid of his quarterbacks before they...

If you're Robert Kraft, you're in the Super Bowl window. I had to think hard about it. I don't think it's a crazy thing to do, but I would lean now. You're winning a Super Bowl with Tommy G. You never know. That's not what Damashik thinks. That's what they once said about a guy named Tom Brady. They're not the same person.

Greg and West, the scientist would be written. Greg thinks he's getting a double rainbow over Foxborough. I just want you guys to do all the qualifications. Can we make the point that Garapolo and Brady are not the same quarterback, even though one is replacing the other just as Brady replaced Redso? Because I think a lot of people in the country don't understand that. Very true. They'll know after a month of Jimmy Garoppel, though.

I wonder which supermodel Hillmerie. Yeah. Tara Reid's still available. All right. I'm just saying former Brady Grove podcast totally off the rails. Shall we? Yeah, go ahead. All right.

Your life goes in one of two. Two directions. One, over the next decade, your favorite team will win the Super Bowl ten straight times. In each of those 10 years, you will also be given a $200,000 stipend and not be required to work another hour. Your life is all about travel, family, friendship, art, leisure, pleasure. Whatever you want it to be. You have no material concerns. But on the first day of the 11th year, you are abducted by alien visitors.

You will endure whatever comes with that and never see the earth. again or your football team never wins more than three games in a season ever again and you must work in a tuna fish factory for as long as you live all right how wait what in the world this is the most absurd scenarios ever welcome to mark's version of the game wait how long are you abducted for crappy and crappier you're up to mark you have 10 years of absolute bliss everything goes right oh yeah no i got that but how long are you abducted you're gone forever oh of course i'm going to have a crappy football team and work at the tuna shop. All right.

I'm sticking with it. You take all the football permutations out of this for me. I don't care about my team winning. I know. I like that you threw that in there. If I'm getting 10 years of bliss, like absolute bliss, give me the bliss, baby. Who knows what's going to happen in the next 10 years? I could die at 51.

You never know. That's a fair point. Give me the bliss. I want the guarantee. I got you, I got you, Wes. There wasn't anything in the tuna fish factory scenario that implied that you were miserable well you're not all right but you're not working here anymore you'd work the rest of your life but you still have your family your husband your wife yes what you have are the simple comforts

but you live a low level existence your family is not a simple comfort well i'm just saying i like how you're downplay you have you have the basic love and affection you're learning a lot about margaret yeah you really are because the money the money and the travel that's not going to make you happy well you could leave that for your family too you could get caught in the cany machine and come out in 250 pieces or you could work your way up and find something interesting about the tuna factory and uh you could run that joint see i think it would what's interesting about a tuna factory well maybe this all comes down you know to religion you know if you just believe if you don't if you're not into the afterlife i'm i want to add on more than 10 years oh the theology podcast thanks

for reminding me it'd be different if you were like a fisherman of tuna yeah but that sounds fun i know that's why i said we do i go alien abduction because it would be cool to see what happens during Yeah, but then they're probing you and that's an assumption. We don't know that. That's like a 1950s trope. You don't know that.

If you're answering this question, how big of a factor is the football to you? Because I feel like as a Browns fan, it would be a bigger factor than you. The football was almost like a throw on. It was like it was leading you into all these things going right for you. Can I be honest with you?

Ten straight Super Bowls doesn't even sound that great to me. Honestly, give me three. If you went ten in a row, I'm sure by the fifth one, it wouldn't feel that great anymore. Well, I'd be willing to test that theory. I think here's something that people are losing sight of. If the aliens find us before we find them,

they're more likely to be an enlightened people, and you're with more enlightened people. They don't want to probe you. I like that you're an optimist when it comes to an alien invasion. I wouldn't even call it an invasion. A visit. All right, your turn, Wes. Oh, okay.

I just want you guys to read yours. They're so good. I think Wes has got a good one. Wes is going to have a hammer drover. Basically, mine's terrible. You guys are getting called up from NFL now. You're getting the call from AAA to the majors. You're on total access, but here's the deal.

You've got to go shirtless for your whole segment on total access. First time in front of the nation, you've got to go shirtless. Millions and millions of people across the world, or NFL Gumshoe, Ted Wells, will look into your background and prepare a 243-page report on your background. And he's taking your phone. Now, neither scenario. really bothers me that much, but I'll go on TV shirtless.

I'll do the shirtless route, too. I would like to be in better physical condition for this national television debut, but at the same time, like, you know. That's the thing. You don't get gym time. You got to go like you are. You know, it's better than somebody poking through my life. Yeah, I wouldn't be into a long investigation on my background.

Not that I have like, you know, bodies in my backyard or anything, but still, that feels like a violation to me. It's probably how Tom Brady felt, too. I think my takeaway here is. I'm trying over myself. Wes is ashamed of his body. I didn't answer the question. To the fore. Oh, yeah.

Why don't you answer? I don't have to. I came up with it. All right. Lindsay, you don't have to answer that. I want you to read yours. For the record, I'll take the wells. All right.

Mark, do you have one more? Let's do one more with Mark. Okay, so you are starting an NFL team. You can have Nadomik and Sue on this team. This is how you start your team. You have Nadamik and Sue, J.J. Watt, Tyron Smith, Travis Kelsey, and Vante Davis, plus Matt Castle has to be your quarterback for the next five years. Or you can have just Andrew Luck.

I'll take luck. No brainer for me. Matt Castle for the next five years? Five years with the rest of those players. Okay, wait. Sue Watt, Kelsey? You're starting quarterback? Sue Watt, Tyron Smith, foundational left tackle, Travis Kelsey, and Vante Davis. Yeah, I take that scenario.

I'll take luck. I'm going to take luck, too. I would take luck. I wouldn't trade luck for 15 first round picks. Matt Castle's also 33 or whatever. You're stuck with him for five years. That's just so... And I love Matt Castle.

He's crappy now. Just imagine how much crappier he's going to get in five years. My question was similar. Maybe I'll do one. Why not? Okay. All right. Mine was simple.

See, I felt intimidated by all of yours. Okay. Just a simple one. Would you rather have the Seahawks defense and all the contracts that come with it? You get the whole defense, or you get Ben Rathesberger. Defense. All the contracts, though. That gravy ship is a gravy train is about to.

I'll take the Seahawks. This show is, I just think, maybe it's rooting for a team that hasn't had a quarterback since like 1989, but I go Rathusburg. It doesn't mean you have a bad. Yeah, you might not have a bad defense. You might have a good, you can build a good defense. Big Ben's, what, 33 now? Yeah. I got about five more years.

It's so much easier to build a team when you have that quarterback, though. I got another. All right. I'm feeling like all of my choices might have been wrong. There are no right or wrong answers in Qualis to Fantasia. I'm questioning. All right, Qualis to Fantasia. Yeah, everybody's got to be thrown in the calls to Papasia.

Pepet Hamilton said yesterday that the Colts offense is now the greatest shoe on earth in reference to the horseshoe. Cute, Pep. Mike McCarthy said earlier in the office. season, if the Packers click right, they could be the best offense in football history. Mike Tomlin said, my expectation is the Steelers will have the very best offense in the NFL. Coales to Fantagia. Colts, Packers, or Steelers offense? Good one.

I like the Packers. I feel like they would have set the scoring record last year if the teams could hang with them even a little bit. They would have dropped to 550 or five. What is the record? 550 or so. Anyway, they could average 35 points a week and drop 50 burgers. whenever they want, in my opinion. Packers haven't improved.

The Colts kind of have. Well, the Packers kept Cobb, and had they lost him, I would have think differently, potentially, but I go Packers, too. I go Packers. I would go Colt. I don't like the fact they're a dome team. That's the only thing that bothers me a little bit.

You know, they've got to go outside the dome. Those games count. But the potential of what's going to happen this season with that Colts offense, I could see it just blowing anything the Packers have ever done out of the water. All right, one more. I'll do this.

You ready? Jerry Jones is almost finished talking himself into his crappy backfield when there's a knock at the door. It's Vikings GM Rick Spielman, soaking wet after getting caught in one of those classic Texas rainstorms. Rick? Rick? Get in here. I'll put on a pot of coffee.

Over Java and Danish. Think every episode of Golden Girls. Spielman explains that he's ready to move Adrian Peterson to Dallas, his preferred destination. The cost? Des Bryant. Wallace to Fantasia. I'm keeping Des Bryant. Yeah, no, not a hard one for me.

Really? I'm keeping Des Bryant for Adrian Peterson straight up. Yeah. Yeah. And you're dealing with you got Des' contract stuff that you've got to deal with. I already got a thousand-yard rusher and Darren McFadden. I don't need Adrian Peterson. They wouldn't even give up a first-round pick.

Right. I'm kind of factoring in that there seems to be some fire brewing between the Cowboys and Des. I wouldn't do it. Suddenly got Cole Beasley. You're leaning on him to be a major. you know, guy through the air. I'm going to send Charles Johnson the other way to. Now I got you.

I got Sessler's six. No, I wouldn't, because you're not talking about Adrian Peterson at age 25. Des is just entering this prime. Were we just having this argument where everybody was saying to get all in on Adrian Peterson? I wasn't, though, because I'm hoping I have Dez for the rest of his career.

Yes, you get all in on Adrian Peterson. He's going for 2000. Plus you have a sopping wet Rick Spielman in your kitchen. Get in here, Rick. It's a little strange. That's the one I feel. the most strongly about of all the scenarios I feel strongly in my conviction

even more than the abduction the alien abduction yeah yes but that one I do also feel strongly about I'm just curious what you guys think about Des Brianneario scenario count as 2 font that rainstorm is called a Dallas

toad strangler classic toad strings these scenarios really tell us a lot about our subconscious Mark goes to the aliens Dan goes to Rick Spielman wet I went to you guys I went to you guys shirt with. That's true, too.

There's a lot to digest. All right, that's it for today's edition of the round of the NFL podcast. You know what? Oh, we have, I don't know. The report card? The report card. I forgot about the report card. I don't like the report card.

I didn't, listen, the only issue I have with the report card is that I'm trying to host the show. So, like, I don't, I'm trying to throw it around to facilitate a little bit. I can't, like, like, it's all great to go out. Give him some respect. I take that into consideration. okay all right with all that said though today's a podcaster of the show

or play of the game I still haven't quite figured it out is I'm gonna go I gotta go with Lindsay man I mean all right I'm with that you know she showed off quick wit they pointed out Robert Crafts and the Air Force ones

that was good great point pull back the curtain this is really happening Lindsay yeah she pulled back the curtain and how a professional like herself works when she talks about the top of 100 reactions she wants no spoilers she goes and says it fresh

it's kind of like method acting you know That's what came to mind. And great insight there in how what players around the league think about Peyton Manning. You know, because, you know, there's one sound by the NFL films that says... Wait, is this still going on? Are you still going on? Last point. So me, you guys.

If you could pipe down, he has a first thing. That's a great point there. Because NFL Films presents intro says, you're talking about a living legend right now. That's a player talking about Peyton Manning. Uh-huh. So you know. And lastly, Keske van der Lefantzee. I took French in a high school.

Wait, say that again. All right, you saved the show. Your pronunciation is way off. Way off. Say it again, though. Do you have to call me out? They believe me. French club president says garbage.

Um, I hung out eBay. Keske, Vantre, Fantizzi. All right. Vantre. Hey, if anybody want, oh, I got an idea. If you know how to send sound files to our Twitter account, send it through different languages, uh, what's your fancy? Ooh.

And we'll play them on the show. Perfect. You guys getting all interactive. By the way, how does that, I might have surge past Lindsay with that. voting's not closed. Voting's not closed. It came after the fact. Okay.

All right, put that towards the next show, Dan. All right. Thank you, Lindsay, for coming on, coming into the office, that was very kind of you, and giving us great insight. Top 100. Countdown every Wednesday 9 p.m. on NFL Network. Stan Hans is signing off for Quiet Storm, the mailman. Lindsay Rhodes, we need a nickname for Lindsay.

The boss. Tatee behind the glass. Brandon, too. also behind the glass. Until next week.