NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Pep Talks for Those Who Need It

Episode Date: April 3, 2019

A room filled with heroes- Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling and Gregg Rosenthal are joined by Colleen Wolfe to bring you the latest news around the NFL starting, most importantly, with a BIG name coming out of retirement (2:15). Russell Wilson has some new contract demands (9:20) and the AAF is regrettably folding (14:45). The heroes talk some NFL UK exciting news with the new Hotspur stadium opening (31:30) and then go on to give pep talks to those who need it. (35:07).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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back. She's back, baby. Colleen Wolf. Bow, pal, what's up? Sorry, oh, my God, I stepped all over you. Colleen, please. This is, I'm Rusty. Hey, Colleen.

Welcome to the Round of the NFL podcast. Wednesday edition. Connie, we talked about before the show. We haven't seen. seeing each other in a while and you haven't been on the show in too long here in the studio. I know. And we're thrilled to have you back. How are you?

Thank you for having me back. This is a great honor. It's my favorite time of the off season. It's the moment where Colleen realizes it's been nice not to do anything for a while, but now I really feel like I have to do something, you know? Yeah. You're on the broadcast. I mean, you're back.

I'm double potting today. I'm doing the. Double header. That's a sign of true board. The hoops that we had to jump through. I'm incredibly bored. This time around to schedule you with your camp took ages. I don't deal with a lot of it, Dan, I know you do.

Constant. It's really difficult. And if you remember, hey, Ricky Hollywood, how are you? What's up, guys? If you remember, Erica and Emma had originally conceived the broadcast as a three-hander. Yeah. And Connie was a part of it, but she quickly learned. They quickly learned that Colleen's available when Colleen wants.

to be available. Wow. Hence the long gaps between appearances. Yeah, definitely. I'm literally only in L.A. on Mondays and Tuesdays during the regular season. It's a lot to ask. But last summer, you did put in a lot of work.

Yeah, I came up with basically every idea. Exactly. Wow. Okay. Kind of my brainchild, the whole thing. Like sure you check out. Erica, more of a performer, not an ideas person. Right.

Who do you think writes all those bits? Exactly. They don't write themselves. So Connie's here. She's going to murder me. We're excited to have Connie. And by the way, Connie does have a championship ring with the Shield. Our softball team back in 2016, despite her biggest real,

the biggest thing you did for the team was order beer from the outfield one game. But it never made it. It never made it there, yeah. But I tried. But it's good that you're here for this because I think it's time for a press conference, Ricky. Thank you, everybody, for being here. We'd like to formally announce effective tonight, April 3rd. The Shield, the NFL media softball team, is back to defend our dynasty.

Hashtag defend the dynasty. We took a year off, and we decided, let's do it. I'm taking the cleats off the high wire. Skip is strapping him back on. He's going to be on the first base bag. And really excited to announce a couple things. A few things, actually. One, Colleen will not be part of the team.

You're excited? That's the number one thing you're most excited. That's the top bullet point. Two, we are in negotiations with Mark Sessler to work in the front office in some capacity, but we have not locked down any type of agreement at this time. A little update there. I'm going in order of least important to most important. Three.

Chris Wessling's back after spending all of last year. on the disabled list, excuse me, injured list, while battling the Big Sea. You are back west and batting leadoff and playing third base in my lineup. And finally, behind the glass, Ricky Hollywood makes her debut. Uh-oh.

Batting eighth. Protecting the old Zeus are in the lineup, playing left center field. And I have one final announcement. Wow. Greg Rosenthal is retiring, after one season. I like that that got the most important slot.

What are we going to do without our Joe McEwing? I wouldn't say retiring. You never know if it's back next year and it's on a different night and life things change. It could be back. Are you available for a sub-opportunity? Substitute, potentially, yeah.

But I'll open the floor for any questions. I've won for you because I felt last year... In the back, in the back. I felt last year that there was a level of exhaustion from you and also the idea of having come back and do a third thank you Wesley doing a third title chase

do you feel that you're sort of a Bill Parcell's figure we went away for a year you come back you're re-energized you know he was coming off a divorce you're not but you have new sort of pools of energy yes I was exhausted there are several people on the team that made it very difficult to be the manager

complaining about those people are still on the team by the way and yes that's why it's a hard decision to come back because I knew the same head would be there but yet I had the itch I had to scratch the itch anybody else any questions any questions yeah I got one in the blue turtle neck are you a little worried about the commitment level of your lead off hitter who does not have a glove cleats and has gone more time than ever without playing the game in his adult life you're referring I

believe to Chris Wessling as I when I found out yesterday that Wes lost his baseball bag that included his glove. It made me think of Keith Hansis, who once said to me many, many times, in fact, when I was a child, your glove should treat it like it's your hand. Always know where it is. Well, I thought West had that.

In the West Cincinnati, I thought that's what they taught them there, too, but apparently not. I had that glove for over 10 years. It was broken in perfectly. I had treated it like a pet for a lot of years. And during the move, when I had Big C, it just, it's gone.

I don't know what happened. You're putting this on the Big C. I was under a lot of heavy medication at the time, And I don't think I was quite at my normal mental strength. Did it sting for you to bring me back my glove just a few weeks ago that I hadn't used or thought about in a really long time? It did not sting. It was one of those things where you instinctively know it has to go to its home.

Dan's losing the press conference here. Right, right. One more? One more for the coach. I got one more. One more. Who wants it? Greg?

How do you think the team's going to react? Because it's rare, you know, sometimes a player retires or leaves for a year. It's really unprecedented in the history of sports dynasties that the team retired for a year before coming back. So how are you going to handle that? Well, I do imagine there's going to be some rough, Greg. And absolutely, in fact, you know, I did half-heartedly try to organize a practice ahead of tonight's first pitch.

Nobody was interested. Is that a bad sign? Yes, potentially. But at the end of the day, I'm very excited to have the team back together, to have Wes Healthy, to have Eric on board. thank you everybody and best luck to all you guys it's time to play ball if you strain hard enough you can see a precedent here go ahead and 90 Chicago Bulls who won three took a year and a half off then lost one to the magic I thought about that but that's disrespectful to

Scotty Pippin and Phil Jackson and Tony Cucco and a lot of great people that were out there working while some guys has some bozo dream about minor league baseball I'll extend it further what is the famous famous myth slash potential reality about why Michael Jordan left? Because his father was... No.

Oh, because of the gambling issue. Why do you think Greg's not on the team issue? Uh-oh. You're calling Greg, you're Michael Jordan. I love it, this. I would say his softball skills are on par with Michael Jordan's baseball skills. All right, enough of that.

So we're playing tonight. We'll keep you updated on how the season's going. Wait, tonight is your first game? Yeah, it is. You want to come? Maybe. Oh, no, you got to do the broadcast. Right.

Well, so do I. Erica's going to be at our game. Wait a second. We're spinning before. All right, let's take this up. I'm going to hang up the cleats. All right. Come up on today's show, pep talks.

There are some players, teams, figures out there that could use some almost, you know, big brother, big sister type. Pick me up or just in general, a person-to-person chat that we believe. could be helpful. So we're going to give Pep Talks to some people. But before that, let's get into the news starting with a quarterback up in the Pacific Northwest. Today is Rio's

454th birthday. And so in, I guess, good fashion, birthday fashion, we got to sing. Happy birthday, Rio. Happy birthday, Rio. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Rio Happy birthday

Rio Happy birthday Happy birthday Rio I implore everyone to check that out on Russell Wilson's Instagram or Twitter

it's Russell Wilson and Sierra right at the foot of the Christ the Redeemer statue atop the mountain and Russell Wilson trying just a little too hard to have a good like sexy baritone.

Oh, no. And then right where you heard it cut there, he goes, come on, kids. He says it to everybody and no one else starts singing. That's embarrassing. Russell Wilson wants to get paid. Russell Wilson is entering the last year of a four-year contract he signed back in 2015. And he has now set a deadline. He wants a new deal with the Seahawks by April 15th when Seattle begins its off-season program.

This came from Rapsheet on Tuesday. Seattle Times first had it. and we'll see how this plays out. It doesn't seem, Greg, that this is a situation where Russell Wilson is going to disappear for the Seahawks offseason program. We're heading towards some ugly stalemate, but he's sending some type of message to Seattle Brass. What do you think it is? I think it's that he wants that guaranteed money. He wants that contract now this offseason, and it's so hard for a player to have any leverage in this situation.

So he's setting a deadline. And after that, he says he doesn't want to hear about. doesn't want to talk about it for the rest of the offseason pro football talk reported that they've known about this since january so the fact that it came out in the media multiple places this week tells me okay they're not making enough progress so they're trying to turn up the heat on the team a little bit and i don't think he just want i don't think he wants to be on the field again until he has a kirk cousins like hundred million dollars guaranteed and if they don't want to get it done by april 15th then he says fine you know you'll you'll get stuck you know trying to negotiate you know with me and franchise tagging me next off season. I think it's interesting that he's not going with like the week one sort of deadline that we always see with these guys. Or camp. This is the

first time I've ever heard April 15th. Right. That's the beginning of their offseason program and so it's kind of curious that he picks that date. Does that tell us that maybe they're actually closer than we'd think? Because why set a deadline that's essentially a fortnight from now? If there's

no way it's going to happen and it's essentially you're still going to play, you're not going to hold out. It's not Levy on Bell part two. And it just seems to me like both sides want it to happen. It just feels to, I don't, there's no sense of threat here. No way are the Seahawks going to reimagine their entire defense and roster and not have Russell Wilson be part of that a couple years into it with Pete Carroll still as your coach? Is it a threat? Is it, I just, I don't know. Give me the guaranteed big contract I love right now or else you risk going down the Cousins route in Washington, which is you franchise me once, you franchise me again

and make me the highest paid player in the league, and then you are totally potentially left out cold because I can walk away from you and you'll have no way to stop it. Is that the situation potentially that could unfold here, Wes? I just don't see the comparison there because at some point the Seahawks are just going to say, if it ever gets to the point where it would be a Kirk Cousins franchise Texas situation where the player has the leverage, the Seahawks would say, we'll just give you what you want. We'll just give you as much money as you want because we're not losing you. To me, this story would have a lot more teeth if it was the NBA or the MLB where they don't have the franchise tag.

I really wonder how hard of a push the union's going to make to get rid of the franchise tag. They can push as much as they want, but it's not going to have it. As part of the next collective bargaining agreement. They've gotten some concessions, and if they decided to make that a top top priority, I think it's possible. There's no way the owners are going to sit down and they're going to say, okay, I'll allow you. you to take Andrew Luck off my roster, or I'll allow you to take, you know, in three years, Baker Mayfield off my roster. I mean, you don't have to take them. You just sign them to the contract. I think he'll get the contract in the end. I would just say these, like these Giants

fans that are, you know, and I get it, they're fantasizing about a year from now, snatching Russell Wilson away from the Seahawks. The difference between the Redskins and Seattle's, the Seahawks have one of the best front offices in the NFL. The Redskins have consistently had one of the worst, and they botched their quarterback situation in a way that 31 other teams would never do if they have. Yeah, that's the problem. The worst case scenario for the CX is they just tag them next year, which is fine for them. And he should get paid, though, when you think about the fact that he hasn't missed a start in all of the time that he's been there, plus he's played behind some really bad offensive lines and just his style of playing, the fact that he hasn't gotten

hurt or he hasn't been hindered at all. He's been really consistent. He deserves to be paid. His contract allowed them to build that team. And apparently I read that the CHawks have been budgeting for this moment for a long time. it's in all likelihood he's not going anywhere. But yeah, I think where the snatching can come into play is after, if it ever got to after the second franchise. The snatching? The snatching.

Yeah. And don't think I didn't miss that, uh, the Fortnite ref there, buddy. You know, the kids of today, it's all, it's just the video game, blah, blah, blah, blah. Fortnite, which means two weeks, something I didn't learn until about, I'm saying, I'm about 18 months ago. Well, I spent 30-something years thinking that it meant 10 days. I thought it meant 10 days until I was like late 30s, so. Two weeks.

two weeks remember that total recall so 36 fortnight's is how long it took yes many of fortnight uh it looks like it's uh all over for the a a f the alliance of american football that just wrapped eight weeks of action uh but a af chairman tom dundon suspended football operations on tuesday which is led to a lot of controversy dundon bailed out the aaf although aaf says they're They didn't need the bailout, but he put out $250 million to boost the fledgling league about a month ago, a month and a half ago. And now he is shutting things down. And Bill Pollian, who's a co-founder league, put out a statement saying how he was extremely disappointed, essentially making it public that they believe they were misled by Dundon, who we've even heard reports that he only bought.

bought the team, only bought the league or bought into the league to strip it of its IP properties, all that type of stuff, Mark, that this goes on in the business world. But I think the idea and why people are upset with this guy is they thought he was in it to help build the league, and it's going to take more than one season, and it looks like they're not even going to get one. They were looking for buying, and, you know, initially, and I'll let you guys hit on the football side, when I thought Tom Dundon is this guy that's coming in with his millions and he's going to do his little underhanded business thing.

I was imagining, like, an Enron executive who was, like, 73 years old with a big pot belly. He's, like, a year older than Wes and I in much better shape. And, like, when we were floating around the country doing nothing, he was, like, killing people with these bizarre subprime auto loans. He got rich in a very bizarre way. And I talked to Connor Orr, who was pretty deep in on it. Because the AAF, like, obviously pulled a certain group of journalists in to cover from another way that we ignored it largely. Others did not. and Conorah talked to a coach who essentially like went out, like punched his clock, went out for a lunch break yesterday, and, you know, went up the street, got like Chapulte and came back and it's like, not only do you not have a job, the entire company is gone.

And they were struggling. They were so into the A.F, the coaches that they were basically begging for laptops. They've been promised for weeks. You're going to get laptops to scout players. This is your career you're going to grow. They didn't even have computers to work with. So they were doing a lot with a little. And it's just one of those other examples. that starting one of these leagues is so much harder than it appears. When this one appear different. Robert Klemko of SI.com tweeted out that he had heard that the players who were preparing for a game this weekend before all this stuff went down had to pay or have to pay their own out of their own pocket to fly home from this. So it sounds like the entire league had the rug pulled out from under it by Dundon. And not only that, there's a ton of people that haven't been paid yet either.

Like there's a ton of veterans with outstanding bills that. I have no idea how they're going to get paid now. It shows how hard it is because they did accomplish a lot on some level. They showed that there was an appetite for it in a few different markets. San Antonio was one, Orlando, San Diego. They had good attendance. But how much of that is because of the newness? How much of that is because it's, yeah, the novelty of it.

And then more importantly, you know, our network, and maybe that was, you know, I don't know the deal, the deal that they had in terms of how much they were getting paid or what was going on. in terms of NFL Network showing it and CBS showing it. It got like very good ratings, like very good ratings. Like ratings that in the states, not just like tripled what's normally on NFL network, but it's very competitive with like or better than like a national basketball game. Or when TBS says baseball, it's like I love tennis. It was outrating like some big time semifinal or finals of like a master's tournament. So people were into it.

Can we add a little perspective to that? If you look at the history of these leagues, the WFL, the USFL, the XFL, they always start out hot for a month because of the novelty, and then people get bored with it. What I'm saying is it was pretty steady for the two months. And more importantly, it's like I think the NFL, and I think this is someone who loves football, there is such a need for, it wasn't just these players, you know, second chance or last chance. It was the coaches. It was the front office. It was, you know, every, all the support staff. Like, it just seems like there should be room for some sort of development.

but I just think it's going to have to come officially through the NFL. And the NFL never wants or it's hard for the NFL to figure out how to do that. It's so hard for a separate company. We talked about the CBA and what happens with the next negotiations and the franchise tag is something

that will come up. One of the reasons why this all got blocked and Dundon pulled the plug was that this idea that they wanted to have some young NFL connected talent and it wasn't in the current CBA even possible. And I don't blame the NFL. They They have the most amazing free developmental league in the world, which is the NCAA.

Well, and that went against the AAF, like Charlie Ebersol and Bill Polly, and were not demanding that. That was Dundon going out of his own to USA Today and demanding that. Yeah, it was an ugly business transaction. And one human, one human, human angle to all of this beyond everything else we've discussed is that down in our newsroom, they were a pack of, I don't want to call them nerds, they're wonderful guys, but they had a AAF fantasy league that was, you know, scorching towards their own. Playoffs, Michael Fabiano and a group of others. That just got, the plug got pulled on that. Fabz wanted to be declared the champion because he was in a head. I don't know if that's how works.

That's why Favis is in the Hall of Fame, though. It's that Michael Jordan cutthrow competitive desire that he has. And my last thought on all this, and it does suck. A lot of people lost their jobs. Number one, Vince McMahon, take heed before you invest any more millions into your XFL league. Oh, he's going to go full speed ahead. This is not easy to do. and it might be boondoggle 2.0 for you.

And the other thing is, let's take a moment, moment of silence for the Alliance of American Football podcast around the AAS podcast, which never even got a chance to get off the ground. Wasn't even fledgling. We were ready to launch it. We were planning it. We were excited about it.

I was writing up bits. I was coming up with a lot of ideas. Connie Fox. I was looking forward to being a producer for the first time. Wes was going to produce it. Box is going to host it. It was going to be wild and it just not happened. I'm crushed.

In other news, let's talk cheese. The Packers will start with Jordy Nelson. You remember Jordy Nelson. He retired. And we talked about it last Friday on Friday show, I believe. We said that he was in the hall very good. I had an incredible five to six year run with Aaron Rogers, fell off after that knee injury, but had a great career, thought it was over.

but he spoke on the Dan Patrick show about what would happen if Aaron Rogers called about coming back to the Packers, he said it would probably be hard to say no. So there you have it. And it is interesting. He kind of put his buddy Aaron in a tough spot now because Aaron Rogers famously was upset

that he wasn't consulted about Rogers being cut last year and he ended up on the, or Nelson being cut last year and ended up on the Raiders. Now Rogers, you know, kind of put the onus on Rogers to maybe whisper into his front office's ear. And if he doesn't hear from the Packers, well, then he knows that Aaron didn't vouch for him. So when I saw that quote of what he said, it would probably be hard to say no. I definitely read it as it would probably be a hard no. So I thought this whole time that Jordy was like, absolutely not.

I am done. There is no way. and I was like, this is juicy. I wonder what's going on behind the scenes. But now this makes a whole lot more sense. Well, it tells me two things. One, that Aaron Rogers has no pool in the front office, and Jordy Nelson knows it.

That's why he's saying this. And secondly, if he thought there was any chance of this happening, why retire in late March? Why not wait until July or something? Right. I'm sure his agent was aggressive in trying to find jobs for him, it sounded like, including with the Packers. And I don't think those jobs were available.

In other Packers news, Mike McCarthy, who was fired back in December by the Packers after a long run, including a Super Bowl win. He spoke with ESPN.com's Rob Domovsky in a Q&A, and he had this to say, if we missed the playoffs, I expected change might happen. But the timing surprised me. Actually, it stunned me. It couldn't have been handled any worse. Now, I want to tee up the biggest Mike McCarthy. the hater in the room right now. Greg Rosenthal,

you must think this is a bunch of malarkey. That's not fair. No, I read the interview and everything he said made sense. He didn't like the cold, impersonal way that it happened, that it was just from Mark Murphy, their president. Basically, no, thank you, no nothing, just kind of stunned, like, immediately after he lost. And I thought he had good perspective on it.

I was looking to have, like, see if he had a lot of fire and brimstone or what. And I think he realized the time apart was good. And the most memorable thing from the interview was something his wife said to him right when he got home. He said the first thing when he talked to her and it was just the two of them was that she said she was relieved that you haven't really been here the last couple of years. Not just that during the season, because that happens with every NFL coach, even in the off season, that like when you're here, you're not really here. And I think you could almost see that in some of these coaches, including McCarthy, when they've been in a tough spot for a long time, Like, you know, he needed a break. He was just in another place mentally.

I mean, I'd look for the person who is happy with the way they were fired. That would be a story to me. But secondly, I have interviewed a couple coaches' wives where they had the same thing. Like, I just need, like, this person to be more available. And then the minute that they are totally available, it's like you're around the house way too much. I need you to get back out and do other things. So I'd like to check in with where she's at now on that. What's what they say, Mark.

You never interview another coach's wife. Who said that? That's the old saying. This was an award-winning story, a blog post, an award-winning blog post. What award? Really? Did it win? National blog post of America Award.

Speaking of awards and almost winning and fictional stuff, we, not the Stitchers, the Webby's, we found out in an email, an internal email yesterday, that we were honored as in Honoree, which sounds good. Congratulations. To be an honoree means that you were not nominated, but you were in the first tier or the first-ish tier of losers that missed out on a nomination. So if you want to vote for that category, Best Sports Podcast, go ahead.

That's cool. But just know that we were almost in the group. We were in the top 20%, but not the highest. So basically five pods got nominated. It was like 30 for 30, you know, the same. Steve McNair won the Aaron Hernandez. So, like, I guess we got to do, like, some true crime stuff if you want to get nominated. And then there is another five or six that's, like, you know, honorees.

So it's like the also receiving votes category in the top 25 poll. Or it's like, it's honorable mention, essentially. It's like being a nominee, but worse. You're the best loser. Right. Hey, Ricky. It's almost just annoying. It actually gives me a thought.

Can you reach out to the Webbies and reject the, uh, the, honorary. I like it. Sure. Can you let them know that we do not accept their honorary designation? Sure.

And to remove us from their website? That's like taking the metal off. When I, yeah, getting like, and I looked at some of the, some of the honorees. And they, you know, there were some pretty well-known

podcasts and everything. Mm-hmm. And I started to, I was like, are they just trying to get more pop of people talking about the Webbies? Mm-hmm. And they're getting it right now with these little honorary things.

More than they already have talking about. about it? I'm saying sweeping the nation. Moving on. The Detroit Lions ever reached agreement on a one-year deal with C.J. Anderson, the running back who was out of the league and then caught on with the Rams and did some damage with his big, beefy man body. He's 28 years old. He's got a pro bowl under his belt. And now he joins a somewhat crowded Lions backfield tiny box. You got Carri-on Johnson, Theo Riddick, who's their pass catcher, and then, and Mark Radar for this one for you.

But Connie, it's Zach Zner v. C.J. Anderson. Well, I wrote Doom for Zach Zner. I mean, if C.J. Anderson can't beat out Zach Zner, maybe his days in the league are numbered. But it seems like he has a strong path to the... Yeah, no, I think he has a real good shot at beating him out. But they also wanted to sort of... But did you know that Zach Zenter led the league in rushing in the preseason?

four years ago. I did not remember that. That thank you for jogging my memory there. It was a big deal on this show. Well, I think that they want it to limit the carries of Carryon Johnson. So it kind of... Carrey less Johnson. Okay. So it makes sense. Damn it. Everyone's stepping all over me.

I don't know. Whatever. Go to somebody else. Forget it. Welcome back, Colleen. Can the Lions get a power back, please? They've been trying this since all the way back to like when Job is Best and Michael LeShore were in the backfield together. Like Gary Blunt was a failure. Xenra hasn't done anything. Once in all, you had Joyke Bell doing a few things,

but they've never been able to get a real power back to pair with all their little bunnies in the back feet. Little bunnies. Little bunnies that's, you know, kind of dash everywhere. You love some of those bunnies. Your boy, Amir Abdullah. I like the bunnies, yeah. I was a big Javad Best fan.

Maybe not as much as Jim Schwartz, who put some things on the doorknob when he was watching Javid Best film, if you remember. Okay. Put a sock on the doorknob. bothering me while I'm watching job at best. Oh, the Cowboys. They've been, you know,

they've supported Randy, Randy Gregory, who's been dealing with off the field issues. The team now putting the money where the mouth is. Stole that directly from Kevin Patrick's lead of his around the NFL post. Nice. Incredible work. Patrick does.

He's a grinder. Tom Pelliserro of NFL Network reported that the Cowboys quietly extended Gregory's contract through 2020 with 310 Gs of existing 2019 salary converted into a signing bonus. The deal adds one year worth 735K with a chance to earn more escalators. Former second round pick was set to be on the final year of his contract. So we're not talking big money.

So it's not some big deal. Colleen, I'm not going to interrupt you here. But the Cowboys said that they stood by him. And this is a little bit of a nod, like, hey, we're hanging in there with you for the time. He's suspended indefinitely. So, I mean, I guess they must sort of know something that he will kind of maybe be back at some point soon. What's interesting to me about this is the Cowboys. He doesn't fail tests anymore, Ted.

They've adopted a very progressive attitude towards addiction. They have said, we believe that addicts will fall off the wagon. It's in them. It's going to happen. We know that. We understand that. We like his character. We like him as a person.

and we like what he did for us last year. We want to continue the relationship. Right. And we like it so much. We're going to take this opportunity if you want to look at it. And I think it works for both sides. He's getting some upfront money that helps them. But hey, like if we're in a world where we're thinking you're going to be on our team for 2020,

why don't we lock you in at a rate that's like way, way below market right now when you're going to take it? Hold on. What does it mean they quietly did it because it made news we're talking about it. Through all the normal channels. I thought about that. I think, actually, it happened a while ago, and it was just sitting there. It's kind of one of those that they don't want to announce too much. It's like, hey, we just give this guy who's suspended for a year a big signing. I mean, I can show you quiet. That was not the quietest thing that's happened in our country. I was going to say, like, it could have been this week, and they're just like, pst.

Hey, I'm going to convert some of this into. Hey, Palisero, you want to really annoy, Ian? Yeah. Let's have you break this story. Oh, thanks a lot, man. That's my question answered. Thank you. Pts, I'm going to convert some of it.

He's like, what's without that vineyard? What's without that vineyard vine? Just another 20 to 30 minutes of this show and then we'll be wrapped. Got some escalators, too. That's up. All right. Finally in the news, a new segment I call England Stuff. Catchy.

The new Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London, opened Wednesday. It is the first purpose-built NFL stadium out. side of the U.S. and it will host two regular season NFL games later this year. The NFL, I like this, a little wrinkle. And this is like sneaky, kind of a big deal. The NFL field is stationed underneath a retractable soccer.

I was going to say field. That's not what you say. What do you say, kind of? Football field? No. Well, that would work? Football stadium. Soccer pitch.

Oh, a pitch. Under the pitch. Right. And you were in France for the World Cup. I was. Look, I know about nil-nil. That's about it. I nailed it.

Anyway, this is a big deal because it's just another indication to have a football, American football-specific field at the ready. It just shows how invested England and the U.K. is and the product over there and the ability to grow. And maybe one day, Greg, one day a team can call London home. Long way off, but they have the facility to get it done. Well, at the very least, we'll have two games this year, you know, two NFL games. games. And who knows, maybe we'll be attending one of them. I would like that. There's also some talk that going the week before the season like we did last year, if we were going to go once this

year, that might be more advantageous to us. But one thing I've learned at the NFL doesn't really matter what we want to do. They're going to send us either way. And I would love, I would love to go see a game at Tottenham. That'd be great. Hey, for this new segment, England stuff, can you put Ricky, we can't actually use the sex pistols, but find in the library. some approximation of a driving punk sound for England stuff. Sure. Okay, I'll do it. And that is England stuff.

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Pep talk time. You know, this is the time of year where there's some some people are feeling great. For instance, Mark, your Cleveland ground. Browns.

Everyone's feeling great. Nobody needs to. Colleen just went up on the chair about three feet. Continue. I don't know. What's wrong? Feet her up.

Is this part of the show? I like it. I was just getting more comfortable. Did that happen by accident? The Browns, they don't need a pep talk. They just need to be excited about what's to come.

But not everyone's like that, Mark. So why don't you pick out somebody that could use one and then deliver it. I will pick the team that is the closest to the Cleveland Browns geographically, the Buffalo Bills. You know what bothers me is I feel like a lot of people look at the Buffalo Bills

and say you don't really belong in this league. You're a vestige of an old time. You're not shiny like the Dallas Cowboys. You don't glisten like the little Rams of Los Angeles. Look at you. We're going to just shove you into a Super Bowl. I say Buffalo Bills ignore everyone. And I know, I know, you know what, in this room, I think that we have the same thing going on.

A lot of people have told us in the past, not in the last couple months maybe, but an earlier time in life, you don't belong here when Colleen was, you know. We get that still. Well, we get it in this, at this level. But always, what are you thinking you're going to go do with your life? You're talking about a golf course out in the middle of the upstate New York or wherever you were, Colleen, like people saying, you think you're going to get to NFL network. The history is very rich here. The poker nose. West working in a post office.

office, Greg picking strawberries, Dan doing patch somewhere, please. How are you going to get to the NFL? It's the Garden City Patch. Erica doing all that she did. We know that feeling, too, of people telling us we don't belong. And I would say this, ignore it, Bills. You do fit. I see it this way.

You are set apart from the rest of the league in a special way. Drown out the haters, the gigglers, those who say the NFL never would have given you a franchise if we started today in 2019. You didn't get Antonio Brown. because you're just not a big enough city. You're not glitzy enough. You can't have any stars. He dismissed you out of hand.

Out of hand. I don't like it. You're a team pitted against the deep state elite. You got a bunch of little amazing western New York towns around you. Towns like Batavia, New York. Batavia! Shout out. Panandaga.

Corning. Dunkirk. Elmira. Geneva. James Town. I'm not done. Lackawanna. Lockport.

Niagara Falls. Tanawanda. North Tonawanda, I've been, I lived in these, I drove through these areas. My relatives lived in these areas. O'Lean, Orchard Park, Salamanca, Hornel, Montor Falls, Watkins Glen. Do it for Rochester, New York. I was born there in strong hospital in the middle of the night. And then I returned 23 years later on a bus from Los Angeles on the final leg heading

towards Danbury, Connecticut, got out to get a snack at a vending machine and was nearly mugged, but the bus driver stepped in between said crime and stopped it from happening. So do it for the guy who tried to mug me. Do it for the bus driver. Do it for Buffalo. Bills, ignore all the haters, get to the playoffs, change the

AFC East. You have the coach. We met him a week ago. We love them. I love the GM standing up for the home team. Forget the other 31 teams. Who cares about Image. Be you. Love it. Wow. I really like it. City needs it. The region needs it, and you delivered it. I feel like

the players, if they were listening to that pep talk, you know, once you started getting into your history, maybe they would have. I lost my way. But you brought it back. You brought it back strong. It worked. You brought it back strong. It veered, but yeah. The most, I would say the most pleasant surprise. I don't know why I would, I would be surprised, but I was, was the Sean McDermott, uh, fun personality. The only guy that went through the crucible, uh, or speed round during the owner's meetings and wanted more when it was over. Wow. He just seemed to be a dude that, you know, is easy to root for it too. And I, and said that to Sean, I said,

listen, somebody's got to get the Patriots out. Yeah. I don't like the Dolphins. I've never liked the Dolphins. But if it was the Bills, I'd be okay with that. We could root for that. Yeah. I'd be okay with the bills.

I'm just glad the bus driver intervened. He was this gigantic. He just walked down the steps, you know, the big gigantic Greyhouse Bus. Some guy was sort of in my face. He's like, you know, I don't even remember what it was. It was like early in the morning. He's like, you don't bother the passenger. And he just moved this.

He sort of brushed this guy. way and I was like thank you because I was just like a little person how much money did you have on you no I also I think I was trying to tell him rapper I have like my house key and like my driver's license like you can have them but my house is like seven hours from here

forget play like a bill this year they should just put up the sign like do it for that guy on the podcast bus driver do it for bussy um Wes you're up I would like to sit Mike Tomlin down and have a little heart to

go ahead do it talk he's right here well mr tom with the quote the great wrestler the american dream dusty rote yes oh hard times are on the pittsburg steelers hard times you're under the microscope a subject of derision your back is against the wall but let's take a step back and re-examine this situation with a fresh eye you came to the steelers in your interview as an unknown and afterthought and you won the room you got the just the judge It didn't take long for you to be viewed as the ultimate leader of men. In fact, one of the very first money drops on this podcast was what? Well, Mike Tomlin's a genius.

The Around the NFL podcast would follow Mike Tomlin anywhere. Yes, that's true. Close. Yeah. And look, Mike Tomlin, we humans, we're not always at our best. We don't realize our potential every year. There's a duality that merges into us. There's no light without darkness.

There's no Yoda without Darth Vader. we gain awareness of ourselves and others from setbacks and difficulties growth happens by taking a long hard look in the mirror and making adjustments you know going back to the bible paul said to the roman we also rejoice in our sufferings because we know that suffering produces perseverance perseverance character and character hope and hope does not disappoint us look at your division the ravens are in transition the browns haven't proven anything the bangles are the bangles they don't win playoff games. Your D led the NFL in Sacks. Your O line is rock solid. You have one of the best young running backs in the league, one of the best young wide receivers in the league, and a legit franchise quarterback. Most of the coaches in the NFL would change places with you in a heartbeat. This is your division. Go reclaim the iron phone. Mike Tomlin. Wow. I mean, well, excellent. And even a modern pop culture reference to close it. And I love when. And an

You went into your Bible aside. The most pop culture. And you motioned over to Mark, and that was so natural. It was almost like an Obama speech. It was just beautifully done. Thank you. Appreciate it. Mike Tomlin needed to hear it.

And I think he'll learn from that. We haven't done that in a while. I think he'll learn from that. All right. All right, I got the Steelers at 13 wins after that. Connie, here we go. Hey, Giants fans. How you doing?

Still terrible? it's crazy how your season ended in December, but somehow you're still losing. I mean, it's insane. Odell Beckham, gone. No franchise tag for Landon Collins. And future AARP pitchman, Eli Manning, has delayed his long overdue retirement

to return for yet another season because, of course, he has. So many L's for Big Blue, but unlike Big Sean, tonight you're not bouncing back. But come April 25th, that's when everything will totally make sense. I swear, from the man who brought you,

we didn't sign him to trade him, and we do have a plan. And this is part of it. Your fearless leader, Dave Gettelman, will absolutely piece together this horror show jigsaw puzzle at the draft. Maybe that means selecting Dwayne Haskins at six, or maybe they're polling a 2018 Seahawks by rebuilding,

retooling, to then go to, 10 and 6, which, hey, in the NFC East is good enough to win the division. Dare to dream, New York. And don't let the offseason get you down. Come on, guys. That's what the regular season is for. I think I nailed it. You know what?

I love it. I love it. I think that made a lot of time. It's like this exercise and I love it because so far they've been, it's been on the nose in a good way. You're trying to help the bills and Mike Tomlin. Colleen as an Eagles fan is seizing on the opportunity to just throw more gasoline on the fire and I like it.

It was dirty. Yeah, and it was, it took me about three minutes to write. It was all from the heart. So that's what matters, right? I liked it. What if he does have a good draft? It's possible. Of course.

Yeah. Better be. I mean, he's got a plan. Did we learn nothing from, I'm not saying that Gruden now. I was out of the woods in Oakland. But did we learn nothing from last year? Can we at least see these things out before we completely bury a franchise?

Wait, what? That's true. What about Gruden? Well, weren't they one of the worst teams in the NFL last year? Yes, because he was tearing it down and trading away parts to rebuild with his, and his own image. You just got to see how it plays out. But I understand. People having fun with Eli and Gettelman and the Giants.

It's fine. Gettelman's definitely taken the place of John Gruden for me this year. That's what I'm saying. We'll see. And there will be someone to take Gettleman's place most likely because Gettleman will be fired. Maybe in New York, too. Yeah, he'll be fired if he does not nail this draft. I want to, I got to talk to you, Josh Rosen.

Sit down, young man. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It probably feels like it because nobody believes in you anymore. That's how it must feel to you, that you don't have a champion. You have no one in your corner at this point that you're yesterday's news. Even Charlie Casserly, who we love, he's cited. sources that you didn't work hard enough, that you made bad decisions, and I trust Charlie,

but I also trust that you, Josh, you're not done maturing and growing as a human. And as a football player, but as a human, Wes, let me ask you a question. Brett Favre, was he ready at 22? He was, it was said of him that he tried to drink up the entire city of Atlanta. Yeah. And he was banished to Green Bay. Sounds like Super Bowl Week. That is no.

22 years old was the blonde bomber ready, Terry Bradshaw? Terry Bradshaw was not ready. He was benched three or four times. Jim Plunkett, one of the most famous quarterbacks of the 70s champion. Failed out with the Patriots and had to go to a new team, the Raiders.

22 years old. You learn a lot when you're 22. And here's why Josh don't feel bad. You're caught in the gears of a machine that is bigger than all. of us. It is the draft industrial complex. He's been sucked in to the gears. He's getting spit out and you'll get another chance. Maybe it's in Arizona. Maybe it's with Dave Gettleman in New York, whoever succeeds Gettelman, or maybe it's in Washington or you boys, Greg, the Patriots. Maybe he's

the heir apparent or someplace else we don't know about, but just be ready when that time comes because it is coming and also know this it's not your fault it's not your fault it's not your fault you're like a guidance counselor that's nice give me a hug yeah that's really nice um and i honestly believe that this this kid is he having is he did he do everything the right way after being drafted Did he have a good year in Arizona? Everything we're hearing, maybe not. But this idea, and I get it, it's a business, and Arizona's taking this opportunity

to maybe seize on a generational dual threat passer with this new hot shot head coach that they believe in so much. But this idea now that this guy should not be thought of as a franchise level player, he got no chance. He got 10 starts on a terrible team and will get a fresh start somewhere else.

I'm just wondering it where it will be. Rapsheet reported today, for what it's worth, that something that makes sense logically, that the Cardinals might not be in a rush to trade him because what's wrong with having both of these players, Kyler Murray, the presumed number one pick, and Josh Rosen, on the roster and see how it all plays out. We've said that because I think the thing is,

it's not that you're going to go into the season with both on your roster, but wait till utter apocalyptic calamity strikes another team, and then Josh Rosen's asking price gets you a bounty. It could work out that way. And even if that doesn't happen, Josh Rosen, the way the rookie pay scale is, it's not an outrageous cost having him on the roster at this point. And you have two guys you could potentially count on.

I just think it's tough, though, for them because they have so many needs, like so many pressing needs. And the draft, because it's so defensive heavy with, like, really good guys, I just, I don't know if they'll have the patience to, to kind of have Kyler Murray and Josh Rosen. You need the picks now. Yeah. That's fair.

All right, Greg, close us out. I want to give a pep talk to a guy I hope is not listening and stopped listening to our podcast because he, you know, when he's mentioned on this podcast, he's often an object of derision. And his name is Andy Dalton. I thought you're going somewhere else, but go ahead. I mean, I want to know who you thought it was. Well, bleep this out, okay.

That's exactly what I thought, too. I thought the exact thing. Because that would work too. Okay, go ahead. Okay, cut that out. I'm afraid. I'm afraid of that man. Andy Dalton is a guy who at this point in his career, because of us, partly, he is synonymous with mediocrity.

He is synonymous with the prime meridian, with the very most average starting quarterback that you can possibly be. But I say, put your back up. Put your bows out. I don't know what you do when you're overconfident. Bow up. And look around, first of all, this room and everyone that talks a little bit about Andy Dalton, what did they ever accomplish in their life? How about the damn thing?

On the athletic field, please. This is a starting quarterback in the NFL who has made money for generations of Dalton to come. How about go back and look at the 2011 draft and what everyone said about Andy Dalton back then And who had the higher ceiling, like superstars, like Jake Locker, and Christian Ponder, and Blaine Gabbard, how are all they doing? Yeah, Ponder where Christian Ponder exists right now. You've had an incredible career for a second round draft pick. You've started about as many games as any starting quarterback over this decade, and you're solid, and you can be better.

And this is the pep duck. You're 31 years old. This is the age where a lot of quarterbacks start getting smarter, they start getting better, And maybe they just catch a little lightning in a bottle and get lucky with some support around them and then they start winning. And you've got some support. You've got A.J. Green, a future Hall of Famer,

still in the middle of his prime. You've got Joe Mixon, who I think is going to be an outstanding starting running back. You've got Tyler Boyd, a terrific slot receiver. Your offensive line is better than it's been for a while. And most importantly, you've got Zach Taylor. You've got a breath of fresh air on offense that can give you a chance.

And that's all we're looking for. that his career, Andy Dalton, your career, is yet to be written. I don't think you have to be a mediocre quarterback forever. I don't think you have to listen to Chris Wesleyan say that Cincinnati Bengals never win playoff games. You can just look it up on the Internet. All streaks must end at some point. And Andy Dalton, you're good enough to have a good second half of your career.

You can do it. I like that. You lost your way a little bit there when you wanted to settle some grudges, take some shots at the people in this room, quarterbacks in his draft class sell some old scores but eventually you got back to speaking to Andy Dalton I think he should he should be confident and he should realize he's had an incredible career as starting quarterbacks go he's in the top incredible strong 10 to 20 percent of all quarterbacks drafted after you know pretty much period he's had a good career he's had a good

career rosy's really leaning into this right now let me ask you this let's say that tom Brady retired today and the patriots had Andy Dalton as their quarterback would you the Patriots the Patriots fan be as excited as you are, Greg, the commentator right now. Replacing the all-time greatest quarterback? I'm just saying, if he's been incredible, what would happen? I think that they would have a chance to win some playoff games. All right, how about this? How about this?

I'll give you the choice right now, the last two players we talked about. Would you rather have Josh Rosen or Andy Dalton for the next five years? I would take Rosen, but I liked Rosen better than any quarterback in that draft. That's not looking too good right now, but I'm not going to give up on that. after one year. So you're going to, you would think on Rosen's potential over what? I would. Who's just had an incredible career.

I'm saying as a... You use that word. Incredible. As a professional, yes, I think any NFL player that last 10 years essentially has had an incredible career. Okay. Because the odds are... You're moving the goalpost.

Oh, one of these pep talks. No, I mean it. Everybody who plays professional sports is a great... We know! You're all beautiful flowers. We know. That's not what I mean. I mean, as someone that stays as a starter.

If someone had a career at a different position, let's say running back, cornerback, linebacker, and it was similar to Andy Dalton, he would be beloved because he's a solid above-average starter for that sort of time and that sort of durability. And he has done better than people expected. I mean, look at all those, look at those guys that were drafted in front of him. And he just needs a few little breaks along the way, a little more support. All right. I like it, Greg.

I've always liked Dalton. The support starts here, too. We can start speaking about Dandy Dalton in a more positive way going forward if you'd like. You know, we could stick a pin in it because it's right around the corner, one of our favorite shows every year, the Dalton scale. We figure out who is the Prime Meridian and Andy. Spoiler. I believe Andy last year found his way right back into the center of the football world

in terms of the fringe line between mediocre talent and franchise starter. Will he stay there? We shall see. Connie, I mean, what can I say? The tiny box, she comes in, she's professional, she nails it. Prepared. She does a windmill reverse 360 dunk on the New York Giants and their fans. That's how I pep talk.

We got Bryce Harper doing giant bat flips on their rival. It's good to be Philadelphia's own, Colleen Wolf. It ain't bad. When do we get you back on the show? Because we've got to squeeze you in between your globe trotting. whenever are you here next week I'm available

I'm available until July I was going to say Wednesdays with Connie but I think next week it would be a Thursday show oh really will you join us next Thursday sure all right it was wait hold on you guys got to talk to my people yeah well now we

my camp Ricky Hollywood but it is on your radar that we might have Colleen back to back weeks which is something the broadcast has never had in its entire nearly a year-long run. What do you want to do right now?

I'm there in spirit every week. All right. I mean, there's something to be said for varying your guests. I was a little more uncomfortable than I thought it would be. What are we doing right now? Ricky, need you. You're bat-nath. You're protecting me in the lineup.

You're playing left-center field. You've got a new glove. I'm excited. Me too. Can't wait to see on the field. Wes actually, Wes and I, it's so great to have my consigliary West back. the Don Zimmer to my Joe Torrey And Wes said

What is the number one thing You're looking forward to seeing Tonight on the field, Wes Can you catch a fly ball? We'll see Ooh, I might have to come and heckle you guys This is great I say you can

You're a college athlete Of course you can catch a fly ball But it's not always a given It depends if it's way I'm a little short So if I don't time it right It could be First step always back

Not forward Exactly but I'm quick So I think we'll be all right And don't worry It's going to take all of us probably a few weeks to get going, so not too much pressure. Yeah, I expect Eric would be like, can West catch a ground ball, please? A lot of pressure on everyone as the shield. Hashtag defend the dynasty, let's go, boys.

And Mark, we're in talks. Got to get you back in that front office. Even in a, like, you know how Casserly they get fired? In an unpaid way, the way my last role was. Yes. Well, when you suspended David Ely the first year, it really set the tone for the whole year. Thank you for remembering. Yes, it really brought the team together.

It's the only thing I did the entire season, and it was vaguely effective. I would say maybe wait two, three weeks, then suspend David Ely again. It doesn't really matter what happens. Just everyone can get behind it. And I mean, you guys, I would remind you, I think the other thing, the GM is like when you had a rowdy, you know, group of minxresses that went out and got hammered on whatever it was, Cinco de Mayo. You don't need that stuff to happen. That's where you need someone in the front office who's desensitized, all that.

and you're also not the defending champions. Did you say desensitized? To all this like, oh, we're the champions, we're so awesome. It's like, no, you're not. You are not even the champions. Someone else out there, one of these other mom and pop operations, are the champion. That's like a chemo-in-law and win in the NBA title

when Jordan was out. Give me a break. Well, interesting. We don't count it. We're going to need a couple scouting reports from Mark 2 on everybody. Well, but we knew. Now we're questioning his loyalty

with some of these comments he's making about the dynasty. We're in the pep talk episode. I'm telling you you're not the, champion go become the champion again i believe and i believe you can we are recognized as the champions even if it's only in our own minds and in this studio that's all the matters all right all right let's go stan hans is signing off for quiet storm the mailman connie fox great return great work the old boss and ricky hollywood behind the glass let's go Hey, everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here.

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