NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Peyton’s last rodeo & Win Wess’ Toaster
Episode Date: January 26, 2016A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling, and Marc Sessler – welcome in Dave Dameshek to discuss all the latest news from around the NFL, including Peyton Manning t...elling Bill Belichick that this season may be his “last rodeo”, and the Patriots firing their offensive line coach. Then, the heroes break down Gregg’s bizarre pain rankings of the worst Patriots losses under Bill Belichick. Finally, it’s a rematch between two football trivia giants as Shek tries to usurp Wess from his toaster throne.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Around the NFL podcast is all about Chris Wesley.
Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast.
My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined by Rumpfeld with Heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosethall.
What's up, boys?
Hey, Dan.
I think Wes ordered that intro himself.
How else could we have gotten that?
It must be a Wesleyan order.
It's been a good 2016 for me.
Wow.
I see where this whole enterprise is going right now.
It's about me.
It's about me.
I do like when Greg jumps the drop and throws in about me.
I was waiting.
I was waiting for a pause, but Greg just was on it.
Yep.
I am the drop.
We have one other person here.
And Mark, you know, I don't think any of this is happening, if not for this man.
He gave us our first job.
job in the studio.
Yeah.
And he is the host of the Dave Damashek football program, which you can see on YouTube, NFL now, NFL.com.
Check it out on Stitcher, iTunes, Dave Damasek.
Damashik, Damashik, David, David, Damashik.
You guys are still doing the show.
I think it's terrific.
You guys.
I love it.
What a pleasure.
Certainly not true at all.
Great talents all seated around this table.
This is no way.
If there were any truth, if you actually believed what you just said,
I suspect that you wouldn't have me riding hump.
I see what you do.
You do it not just to me.
You do it Lindsay Road.
Do you make her ride hump?
I sure do.
That's not very gentlemanly.
I might stuck in here in between the four of yous.
Well, there's not really room for a fifth seat as well.
what you're referring to.
You're kind of at the angle, and you're, you're like the young kid in the middle.
Ah, Rosenthal.
You could just sit on Wesleying's lap or whatever.
They have a shit climbing up the common man rankings with the use of use.
Dave is back with us.
It's been a long time, so it's time to catch up.
Dave's sitting in on the whole show.
This is exciting.
Oh, that is exciting.
I know, at least.
Big show coming up.
We are now, you know, still a ways off, of course, from Super Bowl 50.
But we have today's show.
We'll be back Thursday with a video show.
Oh, by the way, this podcast is sponsored by a good friend of our Scott Trade.
Oh, yeah.
Very good friend.
If you like money, Wes?
Yes, I need more of it.
I like the little that I have.
Okay.
I'm trying to get something going here.
You always answer too much.
I'll try with Mark.
Mark, you like money?
Oh, yeah.
You want more of it?
Sure.
Call up Scott.
Scott Trade.
We'll do.
We didn't need money on Tybalt.
island we applied the barter system it were plum terrific that's pretty close to the truth
scott trade is a great financial service but you know sheck over there on his show is rocking
mcdonalds old mickey d's which i i feel is one of the main reasons i was you know berserk
earlier this season on the pod that we didn't have anything because shek had the the greatest fast food
giant in American history.
So congratulations.
Two powerful brands, you know, joining first forces to become even a stronger one.
You know, I don't know if you saw the news earlier in the week, but McDonald's profits soaring of late.
Good for them.
What change for McDonald's?
You do the math.
Today's show, you know, we're going to get in some news or some news cooking around.
We're not going to dive in too hard into Panther.
is Broncos just yet.
We'll touch on some elements going on around the game.
We'll really start to dig in on Thursday show.
And then, of course, once we get to San Francisco,
where we will be doing three shows from San Fran.
Or no, well, what are we doing Sunday?
We're not doing a Sunday show, I guess.
Well, we're doing three shows from San Francisco,
two during the week, Tuesday, Thursday, which will also be on video.
And then after the game, we'll do our traditional post-super Bowl night.
Yeah, and there's buzz about, like, you know,
we've done it in the press box in past years.
They're trying to put us up somewhere else.
Might even get, you know, who knows,
into a radio station?
That would be classy.
It would be cool.
This just soon, we are going to be in a radio station.
There you go.
Hubba.
Hubba.
That's neat, but what about on the field?
Well, I guess the radio station will sound slick and everything else,
but atop the confetti that had followed moments before it would be neat.
Well, here's the thing.
It's like we, because we have to do all the writing,
By the time we get the show going, it's like midnight.
And then we finish the show, and then everyone were the last people in the stadium at the Super Bowl,
and then you wander aimlessly outside, and nobody knows where to go.
No one knows where to send you.
Remember TD, who produced, I think, all of our Super Bowl shows, particularly bummed
because he had to get back to somewhere to, like, somehow upload the whole thing.
He was up all night.
Well, he was.
He also had no problem jumping in a cab by himself and vanished.
Well, the rest of us were looking for another cab, which took another hour.
Wait, go back for a second.
So you guys are still writing?
We're a little bit.
Give that crap up already.
We're multiple.
We're hybrids.
One-stop shop.
That is like Dave, sometimes, you know, Dave's in the newsroom.
He only talks to the above the liners.
So you have no relationship with any of our edit staff or anyone like that.
We are amongst the people still.
We love our edit team.
We love the desk team led by David Ely and Nabi.
And, you know, we're still in touch.
It's about being in touch with the people, Dave.
It's important.
I don't know who those people you just mentioned are,
but I'm sure they're very nice.
We're also touch.
I call this the bizarro pain rankings.
Of course, Mark, famously, I had my off-season series,
the pain rankings, ranking the seven most pain franchises in NFL history.
Your Browns are number one.
And, you know, spoiler, they're still number one after this season.
Greg wrote a nice piece about the Pats,
and that's why I called the Bizarro Pain Rankings.
They have lost nine times in the playoffs in the Belichick era.
So Greg wrote up one to nine.
What are you shaking your head about?
Well, we'll talk about that list.
You're taking Cleveland's only achievement away from them
and replaced it with the Patriots.
That's, we'll get into it.
Playoff losses aren't that painful.
I mean, you guys don't know what true pain is.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
That's so wrong.
You guys have no idea what true pain is.
Les, you haven't been out of the fandom game too long.
I'm not comparing it to that.
They're different animals.
The reality is they've lost more.
big time games than all those teams.
It is way better from where I sit.
And believe me, yes, well, Dave, you root for the Steelers,
so you don't know what it is to know pain.
Well, first of all, not unlike Rosenthal and his Patriots,
the Steelers have experienced plenty of pain.
Look at, you know, a week and a half ago in Denver.
That was a heartbreaking loss for the Steelers.
There are many of those.
But besides that, you know, compare it to,
I'm also a Pittsburgh Pirates fan,
20 years of losing seasons.
that was fine with me.
It was embarrassing.
But by June, the season was over, it was a mild dull pain.
What's bad are those losses that are going to haunt you for the rest of your days?
And that's what happens in January.
You are so, so wrong.
And then we got to move, guys, because we got another big thing cooking at the end of this show.
It's been a while.
We had to put it on hiatus because there were just too many tomato cans in the listening audience.
No offense, guys.
The game is
Still my favorite drop that we have
Just a total piece of S drop
Can I hear it again?
Sounds like a space station blowing up
The Donald's would not sign off on that
So Sheck versus Wes
One of my favorite things is Sheck taking on West
And we'll talk about it a little more later
Chief tomato can
I'm not good but you know what I got
I got plucked
And you have to admire it.
And here's what else you got.
You have maybe too much patience for a game that's timed.
You always make sure you got that one answer that you answer.
You answer it right.
Here's what else you got.
This is Super Bowl edition.
Super Bowl trivia, which I feel like might be in your wheelhouse date.
I'm nervous.
Yeah, I was reared on Super Bowl glory.
All right.
So let's get into it all.
Sydney behind the glass.
How are you, dear?
I am well.
Thank you.
How is everybody?
Good.
How was Disneyland this past weekend?
It was so good.
As always.
Do you say that every Tuesday?
I mean, it usually checks out.
Do you know that check?
How many times have you been to Disneyland in the last year?
Well, yeah, this year it's probably been like 10.
I've been twice in the last week.
Really?
Oh, your kids love it there then, huh?
I do not have kids, but.
Wait a way.
Sydney's like 18 years old.
How many kids?
You don't have multiple kids?
You only have one little one there?
No.
Just me.
I am the child.
Wait a second, but Hansus just mentioned that you go to Disneyland all the time.
That doesn't line up.
No.
And I go with other people who also don't have kids.
He's messing with you.
It's a bunch of weirdos.
Very strange.
Very strange.
Hey, you left the Packers off your list, too.
Talk about painful losses.
How about being a Packers fan of Lake?
That's a bad.
It's really tough to go from Brett Farve to Aaron Rogers.
I know, but still, you know.
There's a break with bitter losses.
The definition of pain in these circles is crazy to me.
All right.
So, yes, when West's toaster,
Sheck versus West, part three.
So let's get to it.
Sydney, let's do some news.
Omaha.
Yes, there was some news buried within the Peyton Manning Bill Belchek
midfield meeting after Sunday's AFC championship game
where this is what,
and I don't know if it will come across too well in audio,
but we'll give it a shot.
This is what Peyton Manning had to say to Bill Belichick in their little exchange.
Hey, listen, this might be my last rodeo, so you have been a pleasure.
You're a great pleasure.
Hey, listen, this might be my last rodeo, so it sure has been a pleasure.
And Belichick, I hate this because one of my favorite things is despising Bill Belichick's character
and having no respect for him.
As a man, as a coach, I have tons of respect.
Well, that's big of you.
His response, you are a great competitor.
He also said, I hope you go all the way.
It's great, too, that we have Shaq on the show today because Shaq, who has been his bread and butter for years with this company to shovel dirt on Peyton Manning's legacy and be smirch, one of the great competitors in the history of the game.
Now, at age 39, with his tank on E, has a chance to steal a Super Bowl on the way out the back door.
That's going to be crushing for you, by the way.
Well, I mean, the idea and hands is you love to push this issue that I actually carry Peyton Windsor, Windsor,
No, you do. It's true. So Bucky's like the X's a nose guy.
Elliot's the historian. You're the anti-Payton Manning guy.
That's the role you've carved out.
For the record, have I been wrong about anything I've said about Peyton Manning?
Yes. Tell me specifically.
Yes. You owe me a sandwich for one of those things that was wrong.
That's true. You know what? I say it corrected.
You honestly discounted him coming back from neck surgery.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. That's not true.
I said three years ago, Peyton will not win another Super Bowl.
That was my assertion, not, by the way, to clarify for the Broncos fans who have revealed themselves to be as weird a fan base as there is.
And that's saying something in the 32 NFL circles that the Broncos fans, upon winning a ticket to Super Bowl 50, have reacted with demands of apologies and insist.
that you have disrespected, number 18, the sheriff,
and you should be ashamed and quit your job
and perhaps spend time behind bars for having that opinion.
I don't think that, I'm really, hey, guys,
I think you're missing the point here.
You got to the Super Bowl.
You're supposed to be happy.
It's not your chance to seek vengeance on those who doubted you.
Sure.
But, Peyton Manning, all I've ever said about him,
not that he chokes, rather that not unlike Greg Maddox
and Tom Glavin, when they were at their dominant heights,
their particular styles lent themselves to dominance
against mediocre competition in July,
not against October big bats with powerful lineups.
Peyton Manning's style doesn't lend itself to postseason success
when the weather drops and the defensive competition rise.
I hope you enjoy watching him in the Super Bowl.
I could look to Peyton.
And imagine, imagine he has like a nice little game and they win.
He won't.
And they will really stick it to you.
The fact that this, someone could believe this couldn't be his last rode.
I mean, come on, of course it's his last Rudy.
A month and a half ago, it looked like he was going to go out on the bench.
The Broncos might not even make the playoffs.
They might get swept out of the playoffs in the first round.
Now he's in the Super Bowl.
You have to end on that new winner.
You hope he does.
But you never know with pro athletes.
You never know.
And they don't want to go, even if they, everything is.
Oh, which means he'll be playing for the Texans.
next year, which will be hyper-depressing.
It could end up being an even worse scenario than sitting the bench behind Brock
off the decision is made.
By the time he's telling Bill Belichick on the field that it might be his last rodeo,
and the fact he's bringing out his entire family on the field to take pictures two hours
after the game, and he's putting Marshall Manning his son on the podium with him,
that's all things you do when you know you're leaving.
And it's cool that he's going out like this.
I agree.
In other news, the New England Patriots, Tom Brady.
Of course, Peyton Man was a great rival over the years,
took a historic beating in the AFC title game.
20 hits, according to NFL research.
A reporter Jeff Howe for the Boston Herald actually tracked 25 hits
when he rewatched the tape.
Either way, the guy took a vicious beating,
and it led to someone else taking a hit.
It is the Patriots offensive line coach.
I'm going to try this.
Dave de Gugli Elmo.
The guy, the Italian guy that gets mad when I don't pronounce Italian words correctly.
He's going to be upset about it.
Oh, yeah.
Dave do Gugli Elmo has been let go.
He was the offensive line coach for the pet.
Guigs, we'll call him Googs, for the past two seasons.
And Rapsheet reported Monday that he had actually been getting credit within the organization
for taking a beat-up line, what was missing key starters, and making it work.
I mean, they got to the final four, the NFL, with a really patchwork line.
But ultimately, you can kind of see he's a victim of circumstance, right?
but at the same time, when the face of the franchise
and the most important player in the history of the Patriots
almost gets killed on the field,
I guess I could see why they felt like they had to act, I guess.
It feels like a scapeboat move because if you're him
and you've had the most line combinations in the league,
we watch other teams lose one or two linemen
and it's over for their offense.
He's had to coach up more linemen than anyone in the league
and he did a really good job with it up until the final game of the season,
kind of a fall guy scenario.
Well, there is talk that they,
They weren't thrilled with him last year.
Then they win the Super Bowl.
You're not going to fire him after winning the Super Bowl.
He was replacing a guy who we actually mentioned when he got fired.
Dante Scarnakia was literally the longest tenured coach in the league
and known as one of the great O'O line and assistant coaches of all time
who had been with them since the 70s.
So it's tough to replace that guy.
He's coming from the Tony Soprano tree,
who Rex Ryan brought him into New York, didn't last there.
I'll tell you this.
There have been other high-profile guys, of course,
the first half of the season, everybody was talking about how crummy the Seahawks line was.
Tom Cable turned that around.
Mike Munchak did a great job without a couple of great big time pieces in Pittsburgh.
So, yeah, the Patriots didn't respond terribly well to the losses.
And, you know, people keep talking about what the Broncos did and how they exposed that O line.
Didn't the Jets do that in week 16?
Didn't the dolphins do that to some degree?
Didn't even the Giants do that when they almost?
almost knocked them off. This is a nasty little trend for Tom Brady. And in fact, on some level,
don't you have to put it on Josh McDaniels? They didn't move the pocket at all. Obviously,
he's not going to Cam Newton or Russell Wilson and run away from the pressure. But at least move
the pocket a little bit. Their response was, let's just keep Grunk, our best pass catcher,
in line to be an extra blocker most. Well, what are you going to do? You have five or six guys in
to block four. They blitz less than any game in Wade Phillips or in the,
the entire Broncos season.
Wade Phillips played more his own coverage,
was kind of confused Tom Brady.
But basically, they never sent any extra rushers
and they couldn't stop him.
What are you going to do when guys are winning one-on-one matchups over and over?
Let's check in now.
Moving on to the injury check-in on the Super Bowl.
50.
The good thing here is it doesn't seem that there's a lot of major injuries.
There's not like a Terrell Owens injury hanging over the game or anything.
But there is some significant guys.
And Thomas Davis, the Panthers linebacker is one of them.
He went out of the game with the end.
NFC title game with a broken arm in the second quarter against the Cardinals.
He had surgery on Monday morning and Ron Rivera told reporters that Davis could play in two weeks.
Wes, how big would it be if Davis can't play?
Because, I don't know, get surgery on a broken arm.
It's hard to imagine he's going to have a big role.
Sort of tricky to say how big it is because he has been one of the most underappreciated
linebackers in the league for the past few years.
Part of that is just because of how the Pro Bowl works, four three outside linebackers don't
get in.
He's a leader for this team.
But also, it's a credit to Dave Gettleman that he,
could plug your first round linebacker, Shaq Thompson, right in there.
And you might lose some leadership, but they do a lot of two linebacker sets.
You plug him in if Thomas Davis has trouble going in the first quarter.
I think you're just fine with Shaq Thompson.
Has Thomas Davis is coming off three ACL tears surpassed Jimmy Graham being a basketball
player in his past as the most referenced factored about a player during a telecast.
I think Jerome Bettis is from Detroit.
always be number one on the list. Tony Gonzalez is a basketball player. It's pretty high up there, too.
Listen, come on. Don't ignore the grand jury. Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard.
That's a big one. That's a good one. Tom Brady was a six-round draft picket.
Yeah. That might be the king. No, by the way, not in shape at the combine when they took a picture.
It's a bummer, by the way. Yeah, that's right. It is a bummer for Thomas Davis if he doesn't get
to play. I think in football terms, they can survive it. But man, that guy, like you say,
Yeah, as you have brought up now for the $1 million in first time,
three big knee surgeries on him.
Man, I hope the guy can get out there.
Come on football gods.
Let him Jack Youngblood this thing.
You would think that one hit on that arm would re-break it, though.
But who knows, these guys are freaks.
On the Broncos side, safety, Darian Stewart suffered MCL sprain.
Rapsheet reports that he should be good to go.
So not a lot of injuries.
That's good.
That's good because when there's always, it seems like every Super Bowl,
one of the quote-unquote beatwriters, like Mark, for instance, this year is...
Quote-unquote.
Well, it's just weird to call them a beat writer.
Intrepid reporter, Marks.
Well, it's a job that we do about 10 days out of the year, so that's fair.
So Mark is covering the Broncos, and usually it's like the gronk injury.
It's always one injury a year that you waste your time writing four articles about.
You don't have to do that.
So, quote-unquote, seemed a little unnecessary.
I would like, it did feel unnecessary.
It feels like when we go in thinking, oh, you know what, it's going to be a nice light load.
There's no injury.
Something will replace.
It's going to get arrested at two in the morning.
Deflakeate, though.
Well, no, not yet.
Something will happen.
Mark's right.
That's something will jump in.
Got a moment of silence one year ago, like this week, we were talking about deflakeate.
Morrow.
Stupidest controversy in sports history.
I don't like that the Broncos don't have any black in their uniform.
It's all white.
We'll get to that, shit.
Get to that.
Eagles make two tight end moves this week.
They signed Zach Ertz to a five-year, $42 million extension.
That's decent guap for Zach Ertz.
And Brent Selick, their veteran who's been there forever, signed a three-year deal on Tuesday as a little hint, it seems, Mark, into the future offense of Doug Peterson, some two tight-end sets, get a little funky with Earth as your pass catcher and Selk doing the dirty work.
Well, I mean, we saw what Peterson did with Kelsey in Kansas City.
When it comes to Ertz, one of the quickest reactions was former Eagles executive Joe Banner saying that Ertz actually should never have signed for this.
little amount of money.
Oh, yeah.
And he should have gotten way more in that it's all this old model tight end contract that he
is caught on the back end of.
Well, not only that, anyone signing now, it seems stupid.
You've played the season.
You've had the risk.
People don't realize the salary cap is going up, what, 13, 14 million.
No teams have any salary cap problems.
The salaries this year are going to go up so much that Mike Daniels contract where he got
four for 40, like he would have gotten five for 100 or so.
People are going to be paid so much more on this market.
And you've already played the season.
Why not wait and go have 32 teams bid on you?
His December was the most prolific December in tight-in history.
450 yards.
Well, another making the leap candidate one year later.
See, I think you figured out making the leap.
You make the leap, but then it becomes true about 7, 800 days after the 5th.
It's still true.
It's like making the crow hop.
Chase Daniel, it's coming.
That's been three years.
It's also three years coming.
next year he's going to sign with the eagles and we'll look at the time that deion lewis signed his deal
and then immediately got hurt for the season i thought oh thank goodness for him he got that deal just in time
but now in hindsight after watching james white and brandon bold and fight those tom brady balls all day long
yeah uh yeah deon lewis appears even more about tear that thing up do you think that um chris burman
calls uh zack everybody arts or is that too recent a single yeah i don't think he's
into oriam he's still like to too current i think anything past the rolling stones yeah and their
prime is probably too current for jack can we hear some berman it's one of my favorite impressions
teach teach look yeah yeah you got r em you got the wait i'm not that wasn't okay that teach look
you got r em you got the cure you got uh rage against the mission look there are a lot of bands
that are popular in the eight 80s and early 90s but credence clear water revival
I'm still making some pretty good music.
This just in.
Old music is better for old whiteies like me.
That was fair.
That was offensive.
The hand motions, which you don't get on the audio version of the show.
Yeah, well, the move of Chris Berman is the self-interruption.
That's his movie.
He gets, on his third example that he'll throw out there, he'll be like, look, you got Tom Brady, you got Peyton Manning, you got Philibrit.
Look, there are a lot of great.
backs on the AFC.
But Ben Rothesberger is putting something pretty special together in Pittsburgh.
This just in, the black and gold don't breathe.
But don't leave.
Back on the place.
That wasn't my best.
By the way, Berman also gave up the ghost.
I don't know if anybody saw any ESPN coverage on Sunday.
Went high and tight up top now.
Really?
Weird orange.
Did he?
Yeah, it was high and tight.
His, I'll shut up.
I was going to say so.
It's probably better not to say it.
Real quick, Shaq, in.
one minute or less.
Broncos wearing white jerseys in the Super Bowl.
Oh, and four wearing orange jerseys.
You are the uniform monitor.
Your thoughts.
Aesthetically, I'm fine with it.
I do like both Panthers get-ups more than most people do.
People seem to think that they're in line for a redo,
and I think they're, in fact, going to give themselves one.
I'm fine with what they wear.
The Broncos are better served by, if you look up the AFL get-ups,
they wore the orange hats and orange jerseys that they wore back in 94.
Those are very handsome.
Don Quixote artwork.
If you're familiar with what you always see, what's synonymous with Don Quixote, that skeletal kind of drawing is what the logo is.
Those are my favorite Broncos.
Either way, I love from a historical football perspective the move of going with the white jerseys at home.
The Eagles did that in 80 to the Cowboys.
It's a big NFC East move because the Cowboys always like to wear the white jerseys at home.
So their divisional foes would make them flip and wear their dark jerseys.
that they thought they played worse in.
The Eagles did that in 80.
Red warfare.
Yeah, and then in 82, D.C. made them do it
when they paid a visit to the NFC championship in RFK.
Both times, coincidentally or not, the Cowboys lost.
If there are any uniform questions on Win West's Toaster,
I'm going to be the tomato candy.
You're cooked, baby.
And finally, good news for one of our favorite players
on the around the NFL podcast, Gary Barnage.
Gary Barnish
Cleveland Brown's
Tartan going to the Pro Bowl
He was joint teammates
Joe Thomas Alex Mack
I'm mad for it mate
You know
I've never been off Queen Mum's Island
It's mega mate
It's going to be great
I'm going to go on the island
Over in Hawaii
Yeah mate
It's probably the worst
British accent I've ever heard
Oh is that what that was
Oh I thought it was courageous
Of Han Zeus to show up
And still do the show after a stroke
Listen, mate, you go to Pro Bowl, I don't care.
How many alternates there are?
Did anyone elected to the Pro Bowl?
Is anyone who was elected actually attending now?
These, every day, they're...
No, well, we were talking about downstairs.
That it now, according to ESPN, just tweet out,
that 135 players have been named to the Pro Bowl this season at this point.
Really?
What a joke.
Or have rejected it.
I like the move...
No, I mean, total have been announced.
End of the game.
I like the move where the Jaguars and the Chargers are.
I noticed, they bothered to mention that, well, Philip Rivers, who was the third or fourth
alternate, or Blake Bortles, who was the fifth alternate, they actually rejected being,
but they bothered to put that out there.
They could have gone to the Pro Bowl, but they're not going to.
I'm sorry.
They weren't on the Pro Bowl.
Hey, I say for the 1,000th time, this is, I think, is a banner idea.
Replace the Pro Bowl with the Loser Bowl, which is the two worst teams by record playing one
another the winner of that game gets the first overall pick i love it who wouldn't watch that and i say
loser bowl because it provides i think people would that's going to put something on the line for all
the graph league go crazy for that and first of all you get it sponsored by jennie crag or weight
watchers the loser bowl and so it it ties in perfectly that way but then be and then you play it on some
burnt out junior junior high field and you get ugly cheerleaders and a lousy band to i don't think the
NFLPA signing off on that
Okay, maybe not with that part of it.
And people say, well, but then why would the quarterback who's in line if he wins the game?
What incentive does he have to win?
The game, I don't know.
That's part of the strategy, coach.
Figure it out.
Well, the problem, and you'd have brand new coaching staffs, which would be in.
Ooh, but that's a preview to what could be ahead for them.
You'd have to jump off of three weeks of vacation for all these players, so they wouldn't be in shape, a lot of injuries.
That would be exciting.
All right.
They would know that they can't go on.
vacation they've got a big game coming up.
You'd have to play, right now. How are they
excited would you be right now?
How all we wouldn't be? Yeah, we'll get the Panthers
Broncos next week, but right now we're talking about
who is it? Who would it be again?
It would be Browns and the Titans.
I mean, who wouldn't be? You could have put it on
I'm not watching it. You could make it Thursday night
football like in between the playoffs. So it's not
three weeks later. It'd be a great way for Hugh
Jackson to ruin his honeymoon period,
just three weeks into his tenure.
What? You got blown up by the Titans?
This guy? Hey, guess what? Hey,
Hugh's first order of business.
Hey, let's see what you got, Johnny football.
Get in there, pal.
I love it.
Would the Titans even play Marcus Mariotin in that game?
Is that considered a playoff game?
I guess it would be on some of them.
Hey, the Brown's back in the playoffs.
Yeah, there you go.
That's what's happening in the news.
I'm Quids in, mate.
That's a fine British accent.
And I don't know why you would say that, Dave.
And that is probably the worst British accent I've ever heard.
Say, somebody agrees with me.
Gary, that's Gary himself.
Let's move on to what I call.
the bizarro pain rankings, and Sydney, as we know, you know, the throne of ease is something we saw a lot of.
And then there was, of course, the throne of slees and agony, which we learned about as the season went on.
On Sunday, we were introduced to, of course, the throne of the apocalypse.
Greg's sitting on his throne.
The cherubs flying away.
They're trying to get away.
Oh, no.
Oh.
By the way, this...
That's not good.
This same bit done hours after the game by the same guy who would not allow a hint of joking matter about the Jets the day.
Well, that was serious.
Their season ended.
That Brandon, for instance, had the idea to have the J-E-T-S, but then some explosions on a video of the show.
That would have been hilarious.
And you thought, no, that's too bad.
We missed that bit.
That's too much.
That's too much.
That bit's so different.
Wait, are you being serious?
I thought I was a good sport about the Patriots on Sunday.
No, I don't care.
I'm just having fun.
So why even bringing this up?
Because it's good to need it.
Explain your team.
It's good to needle the two-sidedness.
Your Highness, why is it?
The team is named after those who fought to create a new world.
The revolutionary war.
Why is it then when the Patriots honor one of their greats, they give them a red coat?
That's very strong.
strange.
I agree with you.
Let's get to it.
That's a good question, Dave.
Weird.
Let's go nine losses, as I said, in the Bill Belichick, Tom Brady era, in the postseason.
A lot of wins, too, as we know.
How many wins are there?
What is their postseason record?
I think it would be in the 20s, and they got the four titles.
It's probably like 23, I would guess.
I'd go find out.
So, yes.
Greg Rang.
You get to play in a bum division every year.
I guess that's what you get.
Congratulations to you, too, Maiden.
ranking the nine losses so we'll go nine to one jets twice bills twice dolphins twice for 15 years
oh wow it's really amazing they get to the playoffs every year yeah i guess so radio is uh i'd win nine
or 10 games a year against that count you know what i would love to have uh three by weeks like
the steelers have you get your actual by week and the browns twice every year wow that'll be
no no disrespect oh no don't don't even worry about that your team is a bi week no disrespect
mark knows better than anyone 22 and nine so he started out nine and no time
and brady and belichick together and they're 22 and let me use some math i'm good 22 minus
13 13 13 13 and 9 which is still pretty good yeah anyway here we go number nine on greg's list
and oh this is really sad 2005 divisional round broncos 27 Patriots 13 that was the first loss correct
that was the first loss not a great team that and uh you know who doesn't like to see jake plumber
win a game the only play people remember from that game was uh the patriots ben watson didn't even
run down.
Running down Champ Bailey.
Talk about a stake through the heart.
It was disappointing because there was a point you thought maybe Tom Brady could go his whole
career without losing a playoff game that he was invincible.
So that was disappointing.
Number eight, the 2013 AFC championship.
You know you live a blessed life when an AFC title game loss is number eight out of nine.
This was the one.
A couple of years back was the special Peyton year when he threw the 55 TDs, a 26-16 Denver
win.
But it makes sense where you have it on this.
was a superior team, right?
Yeah, an inferior Patriots team.
Denver was better with a decisive game.
It hurts less when it's not that close.
It hurts West just to have this conversation, I can tell.
No, we don't need to go through each one.
I can't believe we're going to go through all these with the team that's won all these Super Bowls.
I was, though.
What's the most painful Bengals loss, you recall?
It didn't happen in September.
It happened in January, I'm sure.
I'm not.
Gregs out of his seat.
Paul Brown was the most painful Bengals loss.
All right, you weren't around.
Yes, it was.
I'm not saying it's worse than being a Browns fan.
I don't think you are.
I don't think you are.
My whole thought was Patriots fans can definitely identify with this piece.
But there's also every, I saw a lot of little bits like everyone in the country was basically happy, except for Patriots fan.
There's that little sliver.
There's the Broncos fan.
And then everyone else is happy because they enjoy seeing the Patriots lose.
So here's.
Greg knows what it's like to be a Yankees fan.
One of my favorite things about this Patriots fans.
Regal and all these losses.
Number seven, the 2012 AFC title game, Ravens 28, Pat's 13.
I remember that game.
I remember your running back getting knocked out brutally in the second half,
which was emblematic of that game.
Ravens were a better team that year, but were the underdogs.
They were heavy underdogs.
Yeah.
It was shocked that they were eight-point underdogs in that game.
At that point, I was starting to give up hope that they ever would win one of those things.
That was the year after the Lee Evans game.
You thought when you watched the Billy Cundiff Lee Evans game,
you figured, boy, hard for me to summon any sorrow for the Ravens,
but I really did think that that's as close as they ever.
to get. They had them beat in Foxborough and they gave it away. That's their last best chance of that.
And then they went back a year later and whipped them. I didn't say it's here. That was embarrassing
to be a Patriots fan that day. 2009 wild card weekend number six. I loved this one. This is one of
my favorites. This was a 3314 Ravens win. Tom Brady's first year back from the ACL and those
Patriots fans, those loyal Patriots fans after three championships and endless playoff games,
booing Tom Brady and the Patriots off the field
after an uninspired performance.
Show some class, New England.
It was one of the lowest moments.
Derek Jeter never got booed.
The stadium's half empty.
Brady's walking off the field.
Now, some people say now it was all the Ravens fans
who were still left there booing him as he's walking in the tunnel.
But there's this, he's walking into the tunnel,
and it's windy, and there's, like, trash blowing around.
And it felt like the end of something.
People were like, this is the end of the end.
of the Patriots.
Yeah, it's all over there.
It's like eight years ago.
And now into the top five.
Sunday's game, interesting.
Number five, the 2015 AFC Championship Broncos, 2018.
Why is this game not higher?
It seemed pretty crushing on it.
I had it four, and then I decided to change it.
I think over time, I didn't want to be recency bias.
Over time, it won't seem as crazy.
But to lose to Peyton Manning again,
to lose in the Broncos building for a third time,
really the fact that it's Manning,
You asked who's a bigger, like, rival than the Jets, for instance,
or who's their biggest rival?
And I would say Manning is their biggest rival.
Whether it's the Colts or the Broncos, it's just Manning is their biggest.
Really?
I would have guessed the Ravens, actually.
And then I would say Jets and the Ravens.
Interesting.
Speaking of the Jets, number four on this list, and this speaks to the disparate fan experiences here.
This was the greatest game of my lifetime, and it was a divisional playoff game.
Jets 28, Pats, 21, the 2010 AFC Divisional Playoffs.
of course that was the Bart Scott can't wait game can't wait to go to Pittsburgh and fall behind 19 nothing in the first half the next week way to go guys but in this game the Jets thoroughly
thoroughly outplayed new England was 2821 but that didn't even tell the story Greg I went west to speak during this segment he's just sitting it out this is like when Siciliano was on the show look I sit out I think it's you I read this when you sent it in via email and my first thought was it's really well done it's a good idea you don't have to pretend but no but but
This idea that any of this is painful is laughable to me.
This idea that all you guys with your whole playoff losses are so painful.
I just disagree totally with the logic that we didn't get to the Super Bowl every year.
That hurts.
Well, it doesn't matter them.
Your expectations are way out of line.
But how you measure it, especially how I measure this, the closer you get to the Super Bowl,
and if you're in the Super Bowl, the worst, the loss is.
I totally agree, and I think you're dead wrong.
It's about me.
Not having a soul because your team ripped it out of you for a decade.
is way more painful than, oh, we got to the soup.
You're almost got a super.
I agree.
What's your point?
I'm not saying it's more.
I'm not saying it's really well done, and I like the idea.
I'm not saying it's the most painful experience.
I'm saying because they've been there, the reality is they have more tough, painful
playoff losses in the last 20 years than the Jets and the Browns and the Bengals combined them.
I just look at it totally different.
You're lucky to be in the playoffs.
Enjoy the ride.
Wes, but didn't, I would imagine the most painful loss, the best.
Bengals ever had was in the Super Bowl to the 49ers, right?
Well, losing Bill Walsh to the 49ers, losing Greg Cook's career.
Those are all more painful than any single game loss.
Wes is about his in touch with team fandom as Chris Aberman is.
That's totally untrue.
I've had a more pained fan experience in any of you guys.
I agree with everything you're saying, really, but it doesn't mean it's not.
Just the Bengals uniforms alone.
Number three, 2006 AFC title game, Colts 38, 30.
this is the game.
Oh, you had Rex Grossman waiting for you in a big lead
and he couldn't close the deal.
That one hurt.
I agree with you.
This one has hurt more over time even than it did at the moment
because you had Rex Grossman waiting for you.
You had a 21 to 3 lead.
You have the only Peyton Manning championship.
So if the Patriots had won that game and they have another title
and Peyton Manning has nothing, that would be even better.
And that was a team with Roshay Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney
as their starting wide receivers and they still almost beat a great cold team.
number two this this is where I disagree because I think there is some revisionist history to protect yourself no I'm not I said everyone will disagree with me but this is truly how I felt number two number two the Super Bowl 42 the 18 and O New England Patriots one game away from immortality lose to the giant 17 14 the David Tyree game it maybe is different for me personally because that's the first Super Bowl I ever covered and went to which was a cool experience either way but I think the
second one that they lost to the Giants was worse because you were convinced it was never going
to happen at that point. To lose to the Giants again made it almost doubly bad. And you just thought
with Tom Brady, Mark saw it, I believe, catatonic in the locker room with his head on his
hands. They were just like, okay, that was it. That was their last time. That would have made up for
the other Giants one, but now it's even worse that they lost twice. So that one's why it's number
one. And you could probably figure it out. I disagree, but I see your logic. Number one, the second
matchup against the Giants.
Super Bowl 46, a 21-17 loss, which was,
and that was the first Super Bowl mark.
And I were at.
That was rough if you were a Patriots fan.
He should have won that game four different times.
Exactly.
I'll always remember we were in this auxiliary box.
It was about lined up with a 30-yard line of, I think,
the north end zone.
I don't really know north and south, I'm guessing 50% chance.
And Wes Welker, that pass, and it wasn't a great pass from Tom Brady.
He catches that pass.
It's probably over.
You know what's weird about Super Bowl history?
Like, they are the Super Bowl champions from that year, the Giants.
It doesn't really matter how good that game or how good those teams are.
But those teams were so bad compared to, let's say, the Patriots and Seahawks that were in the Super Bowl last year
or even the Cardinals Steelers at the time of that game.
Like, those teams were not playing that great and they got to that point just because it was like a week year in the NFL,
and yet it doesn't matter.
Where would the Seahawks?
That was going to be my question.
49.
Where would that one rank?
That would have been number one.
That would have been one.
The way Seattle would have won, drive down the field with no time left.
I think it gets worse and worse the way you keep losing these heartbreakings.
The fact that it would have been the accumulation, like you say, the Patriots went into Heinz Field in January of Aut 2 and then in Ot 5,
and the second one is the one that will cause me to walk with the limp forever.
I would never get over that.
But if you would have gotten done by David Tyree, then Mario Manningham,
and then that crazy Antonio Freeman, Javon Kirst catch with a minute left in the Super Bowl.
If that's what undid you, that would be the worst of all.
And the thing I'll say is very quickly, you guys have imbued Bill Belichick with too much credit.
You're so used to praising him that in the last minute of that Super Bowl,
the idea that Bill Belichick was masterfully in the head of Pete Carroll and company,
letting the clock run down.
No, that's what they want me to do is call a timeout, so I'm not going to.
He froze and got lucky.
That's what happened.
He should have called time out.
He should have called a time out there.
He got lucky that the play went down the way it did.
That's why I wanted to say that.
Thank you.
You said it last year on our post-super Bowl show.
That's it for the conversation.
Wes, so by your logic, John Taylor scoring that touchdown,
they had already played three extra games that year.
Didn't even hurt a Bengals fan?
It would not hurt me.
On a scale of pain, that would be a one compared to the 10 that was the 1990s.
I just, we have totally different viewpoints in that.
But I, you know, I love you.
Well, one caused me to quit the team forever, and I was an impassioned fan.
And the other one, I just kind of, okay, I wish it would have turned out differently.
Big deal, no big deal.
Even this Broncos game, I was thinking, you know, late in it, like, I think I'm, you know, I want to retire from fandom after Belichick and Brady.
Like, it's going to be, he's rolling his eyes out.
Just enough of this retiring from fandom stuff.
You're a fan or you're not a fan.
If you're able to retire, and Wes, I know you have a.
different situation. If you could retire from being a fan, I don't think you were ever a real
fan in the first place. Well, that's like saying every divorce never had real love. That doesn't
make any sense. I mean, things change. We're going into this on the DDFP on the other side of
the Super Bowl. Please be a part of these fan-based conversations because I was bitten by that.
Brady has now surpassed the Patriots. Mario Lemieux did that with the Penguins for me.
It's hard for me to fully, ever since 66 hung it up.
Sixty-six be overwhelmed my penguins.
And they've had success.
I mean, yeah, winning Stanley Cup feels nice and all that.
But, yeah, I think you're going to go through that.
Well, a lot of Patriots fans, they're the greatest ever.
Well, but outside of Greg, I know a Patriots fan that says, I kind of miss when we sucked.
Back when, right, back in the early 90s, I kind of miss it.
And listen, I think from one angle, maybe you get it, the idea of completely starting over
and maybe watching the team have to build out of something else.
But give me a break.
You have to make the Flying Elvis Navy uniforms like a mirage.
And as soon as Brady retires, you go back to the Red.
That's true.
Patriot ones.
And then you will be able to return.
Good thing.
Rehire P.
Carrow.
Bring back.
All right, Sydney.
Let's roll right into our game.
Win West's Toaster.
Yes, it is a great game, an iconic game, really.
within the industry of the NFL.
Win West's toaster, a game of skill
and valor in which Chris Wesleying,
the maestro, the man with all the football knowledge,
that's why we call him the male man,
the Flavin reference,
will take on all comers,
and he's slayed countless listeners.
It got to such a tomato can factory scenario
that we had to put the game on hiatus,
only to bring it back when we think there's a challenger
worthy of the game.
And I'm not saying Sheck is that guy.
Sheck has played the game twice before, been wiped out twice before.
But Sheck has a deep knowledge of the game.
It's more your strategy, Dave, that's haunted you in this game.
You tend to overthink and not, you don't think quick enough.
It only gets 60 seconds as timekeeper Mark Sessler, we'll tell you.
Carpenter doesn't blame his tools.
I, listen, I freeze.
That's my problem.
It's, I, yeah, it takes me way too long to process the clutch.
Mark, you just need a panic grab for your timekeeping tool.
All right, we'll figure that out.
It's not a great start on your end.
How many, though, I always am curious.
So how many of the questions does Wes get in advance?
Half or is it all?
It depends.
Now I know why Wes has been so ornery during this show, though.
Oh, he's on edge.
A little bit of tight butt syndrome.
A little tight butt.
I wouldn't say tight butt, but I'm nervous because when it comes to like Super Bowl-specific trivia,
I think check might be more knowledgeable.
I'm going to coach you up right here, Wes.
You've got to put all that behind you.
You've got to focus your mind on what's next.
Dave has a quiet confidence to him.
Not often quiet.
In this case, I see it up there.
So here are the rules as a reminder.
Very loud confidence.
Six questions.
NFL, all Super Bowl-related.
Larry Kinnabrew.
And you get 60 seconds.
You get 60 seconds to answer the six questions.
You could skip and come back.
You can stop at any time because the,
tiebreaker is how much time it took to get how many you get right so for instance of west
and check both get four uh but west does it in 47 seconds and check did it in 38 checks the winner
so those are the rules of the game all super bowl related and uh because uh west is the defending champion
the owner of the toaster what would you do if you if you had the toaster by the way dude
make toast it's not just any what options are so logical it's not just any toasts it's not just any
And a toaster, you can press a button and put the logo of any NFL team on that.
Any.
I'm familiar with the ones that put just one seal, but I could get any of the 32.
This one is any of the 32.
Really, that's a good move because you want.
This is a mythical to toast.
Yes.
You don't want to have, you don't want to toast your team.
Isn't it to punctuate a victory?
If your jets, Panzuz, eat the Patriots, you at games end, you could slide them over a piece of toast.
Here you go.
Here's your team, fella.
It's like the Red Arbach Victory Cigar.
The Damashek Victory Toast.
I also like the Bud Light cans with the logo on it
because I would punctuate this season each Steelers victory
by drinking a Bud Light with the logo of the other one.
Sort of like drinking your milkshake,
Daniel Day Lewis at the end of the book.
Well, plus apparently, and I haven't actually ever read the rules,
but apparently you can just give the toaster to anyone you want
because West didn't actually win back his toaster.
Oh, wow.
Oh, wow.
I won the toaster.
I remain undefeated in this game against West 1-0,
and someone else, you know, a caller won the time.
Birdie from Queens of Brooklyn.
Just gave it to West.
Well, here's.
Well, you're a coward, by the way, Greg.
Right.
You ran for me.
You ran for me.
He can return.
He can return.
I'm not a coward.
I'm undefeated.
You vacated the title.
This ain't my thing.
Right.
You vacated the title.
Wes can now compete for the crown, but that he, that he resumes control of the toast.
It just shows what it.
I don't know.
I get it.
I don't know what to make that.
The commissioner has to step in when the guy won't fight the number one contender.
I'm just excited 60 seconds for now to be able to push a button
and it is going to produce a piece of toast with Chris Westling's face.
All right.
All right, Wes, as the champ, you now be gone.
You will go to a soundproof booth and or outside.
So last time we did this last summer or whenever it was,
You asked Hocom, like, what commercial is Dick Butkus in?
That's not a question.
That's not trivial.
You will both get the significant difference.
Dave's confidence waning as we get closer to the actual game.
I'm not confident at all.
I already know my...
Can you slide over a little bit?
I have the questions in my hands.
You know what it is?
The only chance I have is the same one the Steelers had going into a mile high.
Just, you know, listen, we have no chance so we can let our hair down and see what happens.
All right.
When would you like...
Nervously speaking now.
Mark, we'll start playing when Sydney hits the music.
That will, I mean, that will be the signal to start the clock.
You want a 10 second warning?
10 second warning for Dave, yeah.
Here we go.
Wait, I wasn't, I wasn't ready.
That's my fault.
You ready?
Good way to good technical attention.
Can I just say right now a man of my advanced date should not be one 100th as nervous as I am.
I have no idea why I'm so nervous.
That's good.
I am very.
All right.
Here we go.
All right.
Two head coaches have appeared in six Super Bowls.
Name them.
Belichick and the Broncos old coach.
It's a damp pass.
Which future Super Bowl winning coach caught a touchdown pass
from Roger Stauback?
Mike did you.
This Panthers wide receiver led the team with 140 yards at a touch
in Super Bowl 38 against the Patriots.
Steve Smith.
Name three of the five assistant coaches on Bill Parcells's staff in Super Bowl 25 that went on to become NFL head coaches.
Belichick, Peyton, Coughlin.
How many?
Three of the five.
All right, I'll stop.
Ten seconds.
Okay.
This Seahawks quarterback suffered a broken arm and a torn ACL following a first quarter interception.
Jeremy Lane.
All right.
Who is the only starting quarterback in Super Bowl history not to complete a pass?
Tents, I done. Time.
That's the time.
Official scorekeeper now, Greg Rosenthal.
That was two.
Jesus.
That was terrible.
Why can't I think of Dan Reeves' name in the moment?
It wasn't right anyway.
It wasn't Dan Reed.
We got to, you know, we'll tell you afterwards.
We'll get into it.
That was not right.
I lingered on that one too long.
So I didn't get the Giants coach, so they would have also been.
Hang on, hang on.
Let's bring in.
John Peyton, I knew what's wrong when I said it, but I, I,
I just couldn't do it.
All right.
Wes.
See, I freeze in the moment.
Wes is being called.
Did you think the questions were fair?
Very.
Yeah, we're good.
It's good.
Dang, the one that's got, I know the one that I gave the correct answer.
Not aware.
I gave you the first guess.
That was the one that might undo me here.
Chris Wessling, now back in the room.
He looks somewhat confident.
I put him at a six out of ten on the P scale.
Getting more confident.
confident as he listens to Dave talk.
I don't typically do this, Wes, but would you like to know how many questions?
That's an interesting twist.
You are not going to tell me regardless.
No, I wouldn't have.
Here we go.
When the music starts, we start.
Two head coaches have appeared in six Super Bowls.
Name them.
Bill Belichick.
Pass.
Which future Super Bowl winning head coach caught a touchdown pass from Roger
Stauback in Super Bowl 6.
Dan Reeves.
This Panthers wide receiver led the team with 140 yards and a touchdown in Super Bowl 38 against the Patriots.
Steve Smith.
Name three of the five assistant coaches on Bill Parcells' staff in Super Bowl 25 that went on to become head coaches.
Can you repeat that?
Name three of the five assistant coaches on Parcells's staff and Super Bowl 25 that went on to become NFL head coach.
Charlie Wise, Romeo, Cornell, Eric Mangini.
This Seahawks cornerback suffered a broken arm and a torn ACL following a fourth quarter interception of Tom.
Jeremy Lane.
Who is the only starting quarterback in a Super Bowl not to complete a pass?
Earl Morrell.
Scorekeeper.
One.
You know who the answer was?
First of all, it's Tom Landry as the coach.
Massine Muhammad is the one I got right.
Is the one I would have gotten right.
The winner.
Oh my God
The winner is Dave Damashek
I know he's got the toast
I don't feel good
That was a hard one
Those were old questions too
Those favor me
Ditka is sick
Right
Wes was right
You're every right to be concerned
No I am not like
Specifically Super Bowl
Savant in any way
And it was two to one
Tom Landry is the other
I was thinking
appeared in Super Bowls
That's why I got side
Wow
Dan Reeves
These are the answers
Don Shula and Bill Belichick
Both appear
Don Shula
I was going to a guest in a much one with the Colts
Baltimore Colts and five with the Dolphins
Mike Dicka had the touchdown reception from Stauback
You know who else caught a touchdown pass in that game
Lance Allworth how weird is that
The Panthers wide receiver was
Mouschen Muhammad Moussin
Was that one?
Muscine Moussin the five assistant head coaches
Surprised
Surprised neither you got this one
Yeah five were Ray Hanley
Who came up recently
Tom Coughlin Bill
Belichick, Romeo Cronnell, and one year with the Jets in 2000, Al Groh?
I misheard the question.
Yeah, that was what got you, because you said Parcell, you were thinking Belichick.
This Seahawks quarterback suffered a broken arm, and Tori and ACL.
You both got that, Jeremy Lane.
They would have won the Super Bowl if he hadn't gotten hurt.
And who was the only starting quarterback in the Super Bowl not to complete a pass?
It was Tony Eason.
Super Bowl.
Do you know that if you look up, look up Bob Greasy.
I think he is the most fraudulent Hall of Fame of them all.
he their playoff games in years that they won the Super Bowl their playoff games where he
throws the ball four times yeah four total passes in the whole game um two of four all right west
your your thoughts were the questions fair yes they were fair they were they were they were
difficult they're just not up my alley that's no fault of yours or the games I'm just not a
super bowl and I as as as the committee head of the game I am willing to say there is a little
but an asterisk here.
It is a Super Bowl trivia.
We don't need an aster.
However, Dave won.
Fair and Square.
When Damashach's toaster.
I had the freezacker going on too.
I froze.
I froze on the Giants question.
I froze on multiple questions.
My concentration level, I was like Carson Palmer out here.
I was concerned for Wesleyan when he went with Steve Smith, which I think 99% of fans
that Steve Smith.
That was when I was in trouble.
I thought Ricky Prol for a second, but never did I think Musi Mohamed.
Yeah, he had those 80s.
80 or those four for 140 long play just seemed too easy you wouldn't ask
right smith and yet i felt i you know i remember him catching one long play where ronnie
harrison broke his arm and you i don't i don't remember specific games nearly as well as you guys
do um i guess yeah everybody's brain works differently this is uh as a dan king production
we will have a big rematch at some point in the off season and it will be we'll hype it up
you remember when you remember with the pie now it's my game now sheck wasn't talking to me by
the way for a while because he heard through the grapevine that I thought the pie off
got a little too big this year and it led to Dave and I not being in terms for a bit.
The quote was as reported by multiple sources was, I'm not going to do the pie off anymore.
It's lost its charm.
It's gone corporate.
It's a charm.
I think I'm pretty sure that wasn't just, but I, you know, I want to now make the same
mistake.
I want to blow out the rematch.
I want to, you know, maybe we can get it on stage two.
Then we really get this thing going in the office.
Not charming enough.
My favorite.
They've been to talk to me for like two weeks.
My favorite heat of the year.
I apologize.
Dan and,
Dan and Sheck warring after the pie off.
It's great stuff.
From both sides.
Both sides.
This is a coup d'etat by Damashek, though.
That's true.
It is.
Pretty tap in one.
Well, take it over our show.
It's hard for me to be very proud when I put up two.
It's true.
It's rare that a pair of,
at tomato.
I'm there you could, if you're listening right now, you could tell there's a little in the air,
like a stunned feeling in the air, did not think a two to one final.
Well, there's probably tons of tomato cans in Britain, in Australia, New Zealand,
thinking I could have gotten two.
That's what they always say, though.
That's what they always says.
Oh, I got six on the tryouts when Gold Standard interview.
Yeah, when the lights are up, it gets harder.
It is way, I mean, I was wrong ultimately, so it doesn't make a difference.
But Dan Reeves, I couldn't summon the name Dan Reeves.
I mean, I'm thinking of him standing there in those glasses in his beige over.
But that wasn't even a response.
I know, but I was thinking that's how hard it.
He's in six Super Bowls.
Oh, yeah.
Talking about as a player as well.
So I thought, well, he was in there with the Cowboys and then as a coach.
Yes.
So there we go.
There you have it.
Dave Daneshechek, you've said it all.
And then you've done it all.
You did it all today.
Not only a solid, rock solid appearance, you want a toaster.
You are a champion.
I can't show my face on the island for some time.
I don't think the island even knows about this game.
It's going to make national headlines.
Well, it's being scrubbed from island history very quickly.
I'm going to send them all a piece of toast.
A lot of my actions got scrubbed from island history.
We'll be back on Thursday.
A good friend of the show, Colleen Wolfe.
We'll be back in the house sitting in on the show.
So make sure you check that out.
And then a couple days later, we're off to San Francisco, where, as we said, we'll do a couple shows.
And maybe Thursday we'll talk about it.
Maybe the possibility of some type of podcast.
tweet up at a tavern in San Francisco.
We'll talk about that on Thursday.
Dave, what will you be doing in San Francisco?
Oh, this, that, and the other,
jam-packed, media night, whatever they have called it,
opening night or whatever.
That's when Damashik shines.
The best question ever, media night, Dave.
I hope you're asking it again.
I don't know if you do it every year.
No, you haven't been doing it.
You consider this a must-win situation.
Maybe I'll bring that back.
If you like that one, I'll bring it back.
I did that once a couple years ago.
I like that because so many people,
not only the players, but even, like, media members and stuff hadn't, like, didn't get it at all.
Well, last year, I was very...
Cuts through all the Hocum of Super Bowl week.
I like the deflategate in the shadow of deflategate asking all the Patriots if they were pumped up for the game,
and not one of them got the gym.
Well, also the Brady...
If you're not pumped up for the Super Bowl, what are you doing here?
I like you asking...
Brandon Browner yelled at me, in fact.
That's a stupid question.
Get out of here.
I like you asking multiple Patriots, whether Tom Brady or Jimmy Garapolo is the more
handsome of the two.
A lot of thought-provoking answers.
This year we could do Cam Newton or Luke Keakley.
Did Brandon Moore get called for a penalty as he was yelling at you?
Hitting the side of the head with a yellow flag.
Hey, muzzle tell them to you fellows on the gargantuan success of the around the NFL.
Oh, thanks, Dave.
And thank you for the toaster, Wes.
You learned it.
And we'll all get to dinner, get a dinner in San Fran.
It's fun to go to dinner with Dave because he does it right.
They will run the wheel.
to say get the wheel that's that belongs to david feeney my uh my pal he to impress a lady if you're if
you're a gentleman suitor out there looking for your lady love and you are going on a first date he advises
and i think it's a gangbusters move get the wheel which is should we get an appetizer uh angela
yeah okay what i don't know i like calamar you know what if you're not sure which one you want
we're getting them all get me every appetizer it shows it shows that you uh have a joad of eve you know
It also sets massively false financial tendencies out there.
But it says it all.
I don't care.
You don't have to take a single bite.
You don't have a little nibble.
You like that one?
Whatever.
Sample all there is.
I'm going to try it on the wife and see if it works.
But if the girl's just not worth it.
All right.
Let's get.
Well, that's for another.
That's where is the girl worth it podcast coming up in the off season.
Let's get out of here.
This is Dan Hansa signing off.
Four, Quiet Storm.
The mailman hanging there, Cliff.
Sheck.
The boss and la Cid behind the glass.
Till Thursday.
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