NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Poolside Chats with Peter Schrager and Jane Slater

Episode Date: June 20, 2019

A pool surrounded by heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling and Gregg Rosenthal bring the podcast to the pool at the NFL Talent Media Summit where they get the chance to break down corporate jargon and how Dan was kicked out of the "host" seminar. The heroes sit down with Jane Slater to talk about Jason Witten actually playing in Dallas (6:16) and Peter Schrager to discuss the news circulating him and the New York Jets. (27:28)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast. Poolside. Welcome to another episode of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined in a hotel filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosethal. What is up? boys uh hey dan mark has the biggest smile i've ever seen i mean you know to pull back the curtain if that's actually what we're doing here we we have done roughly i was told by a listener we thought

it was seven 800 more well more than that into the 900s or something we're in that range and dan just asked after um a first take on his opening words to the show if those were the actual words then you had to cycle back by finding you know we're here at the beautiful fairmont um hotel resort in Santa Monica for the NFL media talent summit, which we somehow get invited to every year. And so we have a great show coming up where we have some interviews with Jane Slater and Peter Schrager. But we're taping the show, essentially in a hallway. And because we're not in the studio, you don't have the music from the cans.

And I'm out of place, out of sorts a little bit. It makes complete sense. I thought the smile was because I've never heard Dan's deep bass voice just boom. so loudly in this hallway here. I love it. That was a contributor. This is a fun event for the Around the NFL podcast because we are kind of

men without a country a little bit. Today, for instance, they had what they call breakout seminars where they break the entire media group. So they fly everybody in from all the talent and the reporters and the analysts all to this hotel. They put them up in the hotel. We have to commute here,

but it's understandable. And the day two, this is the second and final day, they break it up into hosts, reporters, analysts. And it's basically a boot camp and a way to converse and communicate all in the same place. And I, you know, I've been host to this podcast for a long time and we do things on live Twitter shows. We do NFL network hits. When they said, all right, go where you go, I walked to the host room. And I walk in, Colleen Wolfe's there, Rich Eisen, you and Andrew Ceciliano, all the other hosts.

And yes, I'm not on network all the time. But clearly that's my role. I'm not a reporter and I'm not a pure analyst. So I sit down and by the time I even have a chance to like pick my head up, the man running the meeting of Shadow League here, he says, Dan, actually, you're not in this group. You're with the reporters. And I was like, howmana, ha'ma, ha'mana.

And that was just kind of the, so I sulk back like Charlie, Brown style through the hallways to find you guys for that seminar, but you gentlemen are not reporters either. So we are kind of just floating, I guess closer to analysts more than anything else. But that the vibe of the event is gathering, communicating. And it was a fun, it was a fun two days. And we've made some progress. Now they do this six minute sizzle reel. They did a couple different ones of them of like highlights during the year. And it used to get on our radar that that we were to not even be involved in that... To say it nicely.

In that six... We are small men. Yeah, in that... But we are now, they make sure to put one clip. Now, if we wanted to still be small men, we could know that they only put... In the two different videos, each... We got one in each,

and it was only when it was a clip with another major star, Joe Thomas and won Alvin Camarra. So the next step will be when just the four of us is worthy of us. One day, we can dream. It is a step, though, in the right direction, because it was a year ago that they simply shoved every podcast into one of 30 slides in a slideshow, and it was about eight seconds where you had to quickly scan every pod, and ours was the four of us and who I think they believed was

Colleen Wolf, but it was actually little Debrie dressed up in her Raiders scared. So, you know, that to me was a slap in the face. It was kind of amazing to be at like a corpo event with like Michael Irvin just rolling his eyes and making facial expressions because he doesn't like what's going on. Like, when else could you do that? There was a slightly different tenor this year I thought than last year, because it is a television network that is learning to face the reality that mobile platforms and digital platforms are not only just as important, but more important than television going forward. And that was a big emphasis of the meetings. And that's going to give us a little bit more attention than we paid in the past. Give us that money. All right, we have

so much to get to. And Wes, let's save it for the end of the show. A little update on the Corpo Jargon this year, last year, if you remember, if you're a long-time listener, we hear a lot of these corporo buzzwords like above the treetops and, well, open the kimono. And we're fascinated by them, but most of the shadow of league figures hear them and say them so much that doesn't even register to us. We have Wes, who's our official, he transcribes everyone, and we'll check in on what our new corporal jargon is for 2019.

And let's also, we'll share some thoughts, maybe, some bullet point takeaways at the end of the show. But before that, let's get going with two really great interviews. First up, she covers the Cowboys for NFL Network. She is Jane Slater. So let's go now. And we did this, by the way. This was very, I'm going to say, it was classy.

It was a little bit exotic. Bit of a throwback to a Don Draper-esque time, I believe. Maybe like a rat pack scenario. We went to the old Fairmont pool, sat on the chairs. Ricky Hollywood. Thank you for setting it up. for us. You're welcome. I got some nice time by the pool. Waiting for you guys. It was great.

Reading your book. And so this is what we call poolside chat starting, yes, with Jane Slater. Poolside. All right, here we are poolside chat at the Fairmont Hotel bungalow

here in Santa Monica. The sun's out. And it's even sunnier because Jane Slater is joining us for the first time on the around the NFL podcast. Welcome, Jane. Wow. Jane, what could be said about Jane? That's on us, I think.

This should have happened probably two or three years ago. We've decided like there's enough Cowboys content on our network, so it kind of hurt you here that we, you know, is like, all right, we don't really need any more. But you're more than just the Cowboys, June. I kind of fan girl you guys a little bit after the owner's meetings. I mean, I just, I literally became a fan girl. Did it come across?

I feel like I'm blushing even now. I'm talking about it. That pays off. Yeah, this is great. Jane, of course, a reporter for Ennical Network and do a lot of Cowboys and Saints stuff. That's your two main beats. Is that fair to say? I say it's 99% Cowboys, 1% Saints, if I'm lucky.

Yeah. Yeah. Golden handcuffs is what I call the team. Why? Because it's a great beat. It's this glamour beat. It's Dallas. The storylines write themselves, but I can't get out of there to save my life.

But you grew up in the Dallas area. You grew up a Cowboys fan or no? Yeah. I mean, I went to the parade in the 90s. Everybody wore starter jackets in middle school. And we have more questions about Jane Slater's life in Dallas in the North Texas area. We're going to get to that. But why do we start with the Cowboys?

And let me jump in with the first question, boys. And I'll start here. That's how this works. I'm going to throw out a bit of a conspiracy theory for you, Jane. I love conspiracy theories. Greg, by the way, now cozing up a story. side jane in one of the lounge chairs i like it you know we by the way we just we just went through a workplace behavior meeting gregg i we have a lot of personal space between us there's a lot of

personal space all right anyway um jason witten here's my conspiracy theory and you tell me if it's off base or inappropriate or leave the pool if it gets bad i'm curious what his role is in the offense and here's the theory this is an all-time cowboy one of the franchises shining sons and my theory is that Big D did a big favor for Mr. Witten, who was let's be fair, not doing well in his broadcasting role.

And here comes Jerry to save the day. Hey, we'll get you out of that situation. You could leave bow out gracefully. Come here, work with the kids, work, come for the summer camps, training camp. And then we could have a nice little retirement on the eve of week one.

And he'll never play another snap for the Cowboys. And this has all been a nice situation helping out one of the great players well before i i dive into that i mean pink pony was such an amazing name for the conspiracy theory what are we calling this theory wow i would workshop it you don't have to come up with it now you've got time to you know put it out there and brand it's silver pony but she's showing the bona fides right now as a listening so here's what i'll say it's it's not a bad theory and it's one i too thought about but i was there scott course, comes to Dallas. He doesn't want to go

do drinks on the patio. He wants me to take him to Star and Frisco for a tour of the facility on my day off. So, of course, I did that. That guy knows at a party. Right? So this was right after Combine when we found out that Witten's coming back. And I kid you not, Jason

Witton was up there like a little kid at school with his books ready to get back to work. And when you talk to him, there's this intensity, but there's also this humility. You know, he lost his locker. Zach Martin has it now. He says he doesn't have his parking spot anymore. And when I see him in practice, he's out there barking the way that he did when he played. They say that they're going to take him off the field and let Blake Jarwin and

Dalton Shulton, those guys play. He's going to make it difficult on them. He's come back completely in shape. And so I know everyone says that about training can't. Shaved head. Right. Shaved head. We can unpack that here in a little bit. It showed him that he's a warrior. You know, I think he was looking too clean cut with the hair. So I think he needed that to be warrior-esque when he came back. Yeah, it didn't look right. But I've been watching practice and we're not allowed to talk anymore about certain things that we see.

We got a little note from the PR department, but how they're using him is different right now. I'll just leave you with that. Well, he's also making a lot less money. So I don't know if that's humbling, but he's an athlete who got that experience of what am I going to do for the rest of my life that can give me even a fraction of the satisfaction that playing football did? And he didn't like it.

I don't even, even if you was getting better reviews in Monday Night Football and was like a little more comfortable, you're never going to replace that juice. So it's sort of like someone that had a near-death experience that's coming back and they're enjoying the life that they had. Oh, it has to feel great. I mean, he knows, even if this is his only year playing football again, like he's probably never going to do anything for the rest of his life that gives him that level of, like, satisfaction. And so to his credit, he's going to enjoy the crap out of it. But I don't really buy that he's going to be any faster than he was two years ago when he couldn't, move. So he'll help them and be a blocking tight end. It's hard to imagine

him being a big difference maker. But you know, I did ask him that, I said, and it wasn't disrespect any of our analysts here, but I'm like, they've got a pretty cush job. You know, you get six months out of the year, like you're really, they really don't call on these guys to do a ton of stuff. You're making great money. He's just so good at putting in the work and seeing

it translate, and I think he struggled. I didn't think the situation was right from an ESPN either. I mean, it was kind of with Tessetorian Booger and Lisa, I just felt like there were so many voices and the way they disconnected them. Oh, they don't get off Scott Free. He needed to warm up or two on the Fox D team with Tom Brennam. Which is what

Troy Aitman did. I mean, Troy kind of like paid his dues, the barbers, they paid their dues. So I think it wasn't the best situation for him, but I truly believe he loved football, missed it so much. And he literally told me like there was still something

in him that he had unfinished business. I mean, if you talk to Des Bryant right now, he'll tell you the exact same thing. There was something about Dallas. These guys don't want to leave. DeMarco didn't want to leave. DeMarcus Ware didn't want to leave. It's a different team than everywhere else. We cover them differently.

The country thinks about them differently. They're the glamour team. Like, if there's a reality show outside of Hard Knocks, it would always be the Cowboys. 100%. All or nothing. It was a great series on Amazon Prime. How could you ever go cover, like, the Jaguars or something after this? I mean, everything with the Cowboys is top flight, including, I imagine, the reporter experience.

It's different. Even when I go to New Orleans, I mean, it's such a smaller market. I mean, I haven't even been to New Orleans. at all this off season. For OTAs, you name it. And they've made some good moves in New Orleans. But I haven't been there to talk about it. The Cowboys, I've said, have been actually really quiet and seemingly as functional as they've

ever been. And the sense there's no drama queens, they've actually, I think they've loaded up quietly with some talent and free agency. Randall Cobb, I don't talk enough about what we've seen from him. And then the running back, they just got from Memphis, the fourth rounder. Tony, why I'm a drawing a blank right now? it's not Snell No

Tony Snell We'll be learning more about him soon Yeah But yeah I literally like they are functional And I think they're actually going to be competitive this year Let me ask you

The way that he is so easily Just acclimated that locker room Like he You feel like he wanted to be in Dallas And when he told us a story That he went up to Dak Prescott at NFL honors and said Come and get me if you get the chance

It was a sense that he wants to be there and I guess because he played quarterback too at Kentucky, Dak was telling us that he's even sort of, he speaks Dak's language and they're communicating kind of the way Omari Cooper does. So that's what, those are the signs that tell me that they're actually functional finally. There is a thread that connects the Cowboys and the Saints and has for years overtly, but also through Whisper Channels, and that's Sean Payton.

Here we go. I just want to ask your opinion because you're closer to these two teams than anyone else at our network. let's say we all live to be 90-something years old. Will there be a time where Sean Payton is the head coach of the Cowboys, in your opinion? I don't care when. I wouldn't be shot. I think it's something that's always been in the back of his head.

He's got a great relationship with Stephen Jones and Jerry. They wouldn't have had Tony Romo without him. Right. 100%. That's a great story when he tells it on the plane about when Jerry came over and asked him about Tony Romo. And, I mean, he literally turned him into the air apparent. But I think he's going to want a little bit more of a... I think it's going to be kind of like Bill Parcells. It's going to be his last stop.

I think if Sean doesn't sign a lifetime deal in New Orleans, I think you could see him going to a team that he fills the challenge of flipping over. Certain guys like that, they need that. I mean, that's what Belichick did. I mean, just look at Belichick, Gruden, and Parcell's moves, and then you can sort of dictate the life plan, the life map for Sean Payton, in my opinion, based on some of our discussions. I was putting it out there, Sean Payton, through reporters, that there could have been a time that he could have moved a couple years ago.

But that was before they had two great seasons, and that the Saints gave him, like, all the money in the world. It's great leverage for contract time. By the way, let me paint a picture here. We are sitting poolside. Four of us being scorched by the sun, and a staff worker came over to open a massive umbrella that covers only Greg's visage. I don't know what the subtext is here. Like, why would we say, why would I say now? A little on the nose.

Yeah, that's true. The lounge is also beautiful. Stop. I feel like you guys should actually move this summer. You guys should do a summer series and do poolside chats. You get it sponsored. I love it. And you guys could probably get some free rooms and free drinks here.

I mean, I'm just saying. I don't think you guys are thinking. I think you're too myopic about the way you do your podcast. You are not wrong. Conspiracies will be the new name. Yeah. Let me ask you this. Let's stick with the Cowboys because you said 99% of your gig is there at the

star power structure with the Cowboys. All right. Jera, turned in 77 in October. Mm-hmm. What is the situation there now? Like, what, and do you sense a changing of the guard over the last couple of years? And when I used to do a sports talk show in Dallas, I would sort of reference some of those

things I was seeing. And Jerry does not like any, uh, he doesn't like anyone alluding to the fact that he's not in control anymore. But to me, when they said goodbye to Des Bryant, that was Stephen Jones handprint all over it. And I've covered Des. You guys know have a great relationship with Des. It needed to be done because it got them Amori Cooper ultimately. It cleared up some cap space.

And the locker room just, the focus was really kind of on the game plan. And he was part of that last group, Tony Romo, Demarcum, you name it. So it was a tough decision to make. but I had Stephen Jones all over. And I think when we talk about this functional, it's not a slap in Jerry Jones's face. But I think Stephen's sort of moving this team forward, making those difficult decisions.

I mean, he would get so emotionally attached to some of these players. And that's what was getting them in trouble because they were backloading the money, it was killing them in the cap space, and then these guys weren't able to play. And I don't believe Witt would be back if Witt didn't come back on the Dilley came back. Same with Sean Lee.

Well, they seem to be more rational and less emotional about their decision-making. And I think when I look at the last sort of like 12 months of what this team has done, I love the way they're building. And you look at the offseason, they bring Travis Frederick back. If things look like they're going pretty well there, they bolstered their defensive line a little bit. Is there any reason to believe this team will not be better than they were last year

when they closed out the season as one of the best teams in the NFL? I'd be absolutely shocked for the reasons that you just mentioned. The problem that they had, I felt like for the longest time, was because they were playing all these aging veterans. they weren't able to really develop depth behind these guys. Progress stoppers. Yeah. And so now they've got depth all across that offensive line.

I mean, Joe Looney was a hell of a center last year. And now you've got him as a backup to Travis Frederick. You got Connor McGovern and Connor Williams that are flex players on the offensive line. And then the one area they really need to beef up, though, in my opinion, is still the quarterback. I mean, is the safety position. Still something they can, they've been struggled a little bit. I'm not demanding that you to do that, Erica. What about this conspiracy theory?

though. Here's a reason why to believe that they won't be as good, because they're never as good as they were the year before whenever they've had a good season. What does that have to do with this year? My theory is... There's been no back-to-back NFC champion. My theory is that in Dallas, the fans and the team

and Jerry and the ownership, and even maybe Jason Garrett, who's on the last year, they seem to really like be pleased with themselves and think that they're going to start at the point that they left the season before. If you had told me that the 2008 Cowboys or was it

the 2009 coming off that season where they were the one seed would have not made the playoffs would have been a disappointment like I would have never believe that that team was as loaded as ever but it's almost like in Dallas there as you said no one wants to leave because they're treated like such demigods it's so true in the NFL where there's such

small margins that I don't know what it is but that it's been impossible they literally haven't done it to repeat two years of success back to back it's true I think 15 years they sell optimism well in Dallas and I'm drinking the Kool-Aid just based on what I've seen at practice so far and having covered them when they were so incredibly dysfunctional for so many years.

I mean, think about it. Jays and Garrett's got to be more hungry and motivated than he's ever been because he's playing on his last year of his contract. Dack wants that contract, needs to validate it. Ezekiel Elliott got his fifth year option, but they're going to, I'd be shocked if that deal gets done this summer. You've got a Mori Cooper that's coming up on a deal. And so I just feel like the timing feels right.

The only thing that's, if I'm a fan and I'm concerned, I'm looking at their schedule, that six-game stretch starting in late November through December, that's a bear. I think they're going to have a hard time with that. And the fact they have no back-to-back home games this year. All right. Finally, Jane. And all great info. You can follow Jane at Slater, NFL. You could also follow her on the gram.

What is your gram handle? At Jane Ashley Slater. It's quite an experience, by the way. And this is. Yachts, cowboy hats. So let's. I get so many questions about my. Graham.

Let's dig into it. Well, you're living a pretty fun life. I always just feel like it's just my friends watching. And I always forget that it's like coaches, GMs, agents, bosses. Had some conversations, yeah. Tell us more about the Dallas Arlington Debutant Society that you inhabit. Arlington is not part of the Debutton Society. This is what I see.

Boats, bikinis, beer, buddies, just a good life. And you're a part of it. And you're flying high. I'm going to dig in a little deep for you guys. A lot of people don't know this. I was married when I was 26, divorced at 27. I had five jobs to pay the bills as recently as six years ago. So now I feel like I'm in the sweet spot in my life.

I don't need a man to financially support me. I love my job. And so I truly like adopt, live, breathe, preach the Yolo lifestyle. And it rubs people the wrong way. It rubs people the wrong way. But I'm like, I wake up every morning. And when I put my feet on the ground, I'm genuinely excited that I got a bonus day.

Like, I believe that. Another big bonus. I could literally talk about that with you guys, but it's so funny. It's like, they're all like, you're living your best flight. You're flexing on the ground. I'm like, no, I'm just, I hope I inspire you all to go out there and live your best life. Well, we have talked about this at the owners meetings we had a conversation about you have lived a pretty colorful life in the past. Oh, yeah.

And you kind of like, I'm in all of like your ambition. Like you, at one point you wanted to sell real estate on the side and you're, You're taking golf lessons all the time. I just want to better myself. You get this. You understand this more than anyone. Oh, I've never been quite the accomplisher. I will say for the sake of transparency, occasionally on the show, we ban what we consider

to be in our world phrases that we're through with. And I around six or seven months ago banned hashtag Yolo. But I also have the power to lift the ban. And for you, because the way that it seems like a consistent drumbeat that's not a flash the pan type scenario, it is lifted, Yolo is lifted for you. Or we could re-brand my lifestyle. You could do that too much.

But again, the haters want to do. I don't think you need to. Right. I think what you've said here is great because I think if you don't know you or if you're just kind of crabby about social media, people see that and they think, okay, that's self-promotion or that's just like this frivolous life. But what you're saying is you, and I think all of us can speak to this on some level is we're reaching apart in our lives we're either approaching

we're approaching 40 like Dan or we're over it and we have a job that we love and we have a life that we love so why not be honest about it and not pretend we're approaching some other people I mean you're like a year you're zooming towards it down the barrel of age 40s

so enjoy it because nothing's guaranteed if you're not going to enjoy it now it's who knows it's over I flew out here on Sunday I was supposed to leave today I reached out to a couple of my friends I'm going to yolo until Sunday. I'm just staying out of here. I'm going to help service.

Maybe don't have small children in the next six to 12 months either of that. They will also help with the lifestyle. Yeah, I have no emotional attachments to animals or others. So, yeah, it led its way. You would have a hard time, Sessler. I'm living in my gypsy lifestyle right now. I don't think I would. I mean, I would have my current arrangement.

Your current arrangement would be prohibited. Lying and better at his eyes open tonight, staring at the ceiling thinking about how he could have your life right now. Although, Ricky Williams, when I worked at Longhorn Network, He had a similar gypsy, but he would tell his girlfriend or his significant other time, I'm just going to Italy for a month. And he did it. That won't work for me.

It's a bit of a free spirit. Yeah. All right, we got to go. We've got to get back to this seminar. Why? I'm so enjoying this. I know. We're having a great time.

We'll have to do this again because Jane, you're awesome. You match the sensibility. We don't get to live the life you live, but we live in vicaries. I want to encourage you too. I hope that if we've walked away from anything, this conversation, I hope that in six months we're talking about your yolode summer. Good. I think it starts in the next five days while Jane is still around in town.

We just give up all of our responsibilities. Sorry, Tiffany. I think Tiffany is yellowing a little bit more in life. I think I've encouraged her to do that. Yes, she's been yellowing a lot. A positive impact on her. You've taken her under your wing.

All the haters. She's flying, though. That little bird is flying these days for us. All the haters don't give Jane a hard time. That includes inside her own building. We're going to deal with some of them right after this. Jane Slater, NFL Network, follower. she's the best.

Thanks, Jane. Thank you, guys. Thanks, Jane. Poolside. All right, that was awesome. Jane Slater. Thank you again, Jane. We have to have Jane on again because she has, and I imagine our listeners are going to

embrace Jane, she has a certain Junet Croix that connects with us and the audience. Wow. You almost nailed that. What is it? Jeunisequois. No, I think I had it. Mark, what about her? her, Jane, bravely, living her best life on Instagram, and I was surprised she said it was something

she's trying to teach. She's trying to impart that on people. One day, do you believe you will be in that position? Well, I hope to be. I mean, she certainly, you know, you spend a little bit of time with her. I think number one, and she's got self-awareness. She has the ability to change your opinion about her social media footprint, to use a corpo word. It certainly changed my one. I didn't know where I thought, this seems like a yacht-riding, leisure-seeking individual that occasionally checks in for work. But when you hang with her for a little bit, she truly is embracing this lifestyle. And it gives me hope that maybe Sunday I will be riding boats and living the way that she does in such a high lifestyle. I hope to seek that same thing.

You know, when our- Dream out live, brother. When our grandparents were her age, the idea of work-hard play-hard, was almost strictly reserved for men. And a person like Jane is a work-hard, play-hard person. And she also is a fan of the show. She says that she's a listener. And frankly- Van-girling. That's all we really need. At least I'm speaking for myself. That's, you know, we're going to be fans of you. Ricky, do you aspire to have an Instagram on that level?

I'm getting there. Mine's pretty good. I mean, it's fine. I think Erica believes she's already reached. That was a political answer. I feel like the real Ricky answer is you're like, mine is better. Yeah, I mean, I live, you know, I live hard. Everyone, all the listeners, check out both accounts and get back to Erica on Twitter at

Ricky Hollywood, who has the better Graham account, Slater v. Tamposi. I'm excited about that. All right. Let's now spin forward about 90 minutes later. The sun was out now. It was really starting to heat up. I'm just talking about the conversation, guys. What's going to be what's going to be there's eyes locking into mine during that? Poolside chat with Peter Schrager. Poolside. All right, here we are. Back at the pool.

Time for more poolside chats. And we got another great guest. Very excited to have him. You know, senior national writer for Fox Sports.com. Good morning football co-host. Also the co-author of the New York Times bestseller, Out of the Blue with a Victor Cruz story, which Kirkus Reviews called a quote,

Above Average Sports Autobiography. It's Peter Schrager. Welcome. This is great, guys. I love it. The scene here outside the pool is something. Well, yeah, we've had some families join us since Jane's interview. Some other alcohol is being drunk out here.

It's pretty great. Ricky, can we get some blues? All right, Eric, who has more jobs than Peter? I mean, you didn't even mention. It's like sideline reporter, good morning football. I just want all of his Twitter by all. Multi-hyphen it right now. Yeah, no, it's it.

Things are good. It's the off season. And to be with you guys here, Poolside, with all of us wearing. shirts and ties while everyone else is barely dressed is fantastic when you we have so much to get to um peter of course yeah i mentioned good morning football who we view kind of as our our cool cousin yeah that lives in manhattan uh our podcast there's there's some dna so we're happy to whenever we could have somebody on from that show it's great speaking of i mean i yeah i feel like we we started the form format of having sort of four people with good chemistry featured on both NFL network and under

the NFL shield you guys came along a second and have excellent chemistry they hear that a lot let's say there were to be sort of a royal rumble situation the four of us versus the four of you I want you to put your analyst hat on not your not the one the you're part of that for some again right we're like from an analyst angle who wins that fight you've got some strengths you got some weaknesses so do we here's what you guys have that we don't have at the moment you have this incredible international fan base that I feel like would be doing all sorts of things on the back end who we would be hooligans yeah we would not

be ready for this. I feel like it'll be turnbuckle action from your fans in Iceland. All of this stuff. Right now, we're very limited to the 32 fan bases and, you know, the people who get the cable services that have the NFL network and watching our show. But you guys, it's a universal and Sessler, I'm not scurring with you, bro. Four on four, though, four on four, you guys have a little more size, a little more size with Nate. Not across the board, but. And Kyle's in good shape. Just overall, overall, I'm saying.

Yeah. No, I think that's fair. I think we could be in trouble. I've been listening to your podcast for years, and I think there is a place in sports, whether it be us talking or when I listen to, like, Simmons and Ryan Rastillo talking, like, it's okay to just talk sport and not have a structured format and rundown. If here are a hundred things we have to hit, click, click, click, click.

And if someone wants to interject and give another comment, it's okay to go a minute longer and hit that topic and get off tangent, which I think is kind of breaking the mold of what the traditional sports television show is. As Joe Beningo says, from your lips to gods, Yeah, exactly right. All right, let's get into it, because Peter is really plugged in in the NFL, and we want to hit on a bunch of topics. We're going to go right down a list, very structured.

Yeah, just like I just. Yeah, real quick. No time for any real messing around. But no, I want to start. Let's go with the top of the top right now. Okay. Because I know you talk about Patrick Mahomes on Good Morning Football a lot, how much you were kind of ahead of the train a little bit about how good he would be.

and certainly he was last year as the MVP. A couple weeks ago on the show we did a segment called Come Down Players of the Year. I threw out Mahomes as my come down player of the year in the sense that I drew a parallel to 84 Marino season. After that, Marino was still an all pro

and an elite at the position, but 84 was just special and that's kind of how I predict the Mahom season will go, but you don't necessarily agree with that. I'm doubling down on Mahomes, I think, and everyone's like, well, statistically, no, I think, no, I think statistically he could be as good, if not better, this year.

He has a full off season with Andy. And here's the thing. Everyone's going to point to Tyree Kill might not be on the field, and they lost Chris Connolly and Kremont. It is so rare from one of these offenses that puts up these historic numbers, which they did, to also not have the entire brain trust of the offensive coaching staff taken from them. So unlike the Eagles a year ago where DiFilippo goes and Frank Wright goes and now we're dealing

with new coaches, in this case, Eric Bienomi is back. Kafka is back. The head coach is back. And I'm telling you, I talk to guys in Kansas City, and they're like, bro, you have no idea what he's about to do to the league this year. Which gets me so excited because if the standard is 50 touchdowns and no look passes and MVP and offensive player of the year, what's that mean? It could be even better. I don't know what that is. Well, I think that's a great point because Mahomes was so far ahead of almost anything that we've seen for a first year starter.

it's almost like underrated like people are like wow imagine what baker mayfield could do this year in his second year it's like they're basically the same age and mohomes came into the league as the best player in the league and some of the things that he did we've just like never seen before so like why couldn't he get better we would expect pretty much any other starter going into his second year as a starter to get better he more than any quarterback at least that i think we've i've ever seen since we've been covering it he like breaks every rule and or every boundary that's possible. Absolutely, and here's the other part.

He played baseball most of his high school. He's still getting full off seasons of learning how to play football, which is insane. But you're right. We do the stuff on our show, and it's June and July and May where we're trying to make up any sort of content. And one of the conversations was which third year quarterback will have the best season, Trubisky, Watson, or Mahomes.

And I was like, downright insulted how we could even put Watson and Trubisky in the same conversation as Mahomes, who might end up being the best quarterback we've, ever seen the way he plays. So it's like he was that good in your two, and I think Marino's the only comparison. When it comes, Rathosberger was a great on a team. They won the Super Bowl, all that. We've seen that happen with Russell Wilson, but no one individually has been as good as

that dude was last year. I've never seen a precedent, or at least I can't think of any going through any quarterback ever, where they came in, and early in the career, they either shattered or threatened all-time passing records, had a singular NFL season, and then was able to repeat it the next year yeah i know and that's the thing i think he could be even better and i don't want to because i don't know what i i don't know but from what i'm hearing there's an assumption in kansas city that at least for the majority of the season number 10 tyrie kiel will be there so we've heard that leaked out a little places where they're saying oh well

they're going and whereas everyone else is under the assumption it's going to have to be sammy wakins team thinks that there's some team like teammates in that no it's more just the feeling around the league is that the in the okay now look the NFL can come out and say just like with Ezekiel Elliott like here's six games whatever it is but this thought that you know Tyreek's is a

definite from what I'm here there's no definite in either way yet so 50-50's a fair bet that he'll be on the field or not I think at this point and that's fine but there is also that 50% that he might be on the field well the chief case that's totally different story the chiefs have obviously left the door open and that's

that's something that we We've been talking about on the show for a few weeks now that it's just kind of been something that's been hanging out there and at some point we're going to get some type of resolution but there's no reason to think that Tyreek Hill won't be on the team at some point. Let's pivot here because you were all in, like I said, on Mahomes before Mahomes threw 50 touchdowns and threw 5,000 yards, took the league by Storm, transformed the Chiefs into a Super Bowl contender.

Is this guy that just got picked number one by the Cardinals, Arizona rolled the dice in a big, you know, in a ballsy way. You don't want to give him too much credit because they drafted a quarterback number 10 and then bailed on it. But it's ballsy in the sense that if this guy is as good as they think he is, they transform their franchise. You're feeling bullish on Kyle and Murray making a huge impact, a Mahomesian impact? No, not the stats-wise, but I think the first six weeks of the Arizona Cardinals schedule, Mahomes is going to, I mean, Murray's going to do stuff that is going to blow our mind. And then there's going to be a book on them, and there's going to be potential injuries.

But out of the gate, I could see the Cardinals being four and two, five, and one. Just because Cliff and Kyler are aware of what they're about to do, and the confidence in that building is that they have a leg up on something. And just because there's no film on it and you're not going to see it in preseason or training camp, they're about to do some stuff that the NFL hasn't seen before. In a very much similar fashion of the way Griffin took the league by storm. And in a bit of a way how Chip Kelly took the league by storm. And really the way Andy Reid started the last time.

Two or three seasons, even with Alex Smith, he was just kind of ahead of the game. That's it. So maybe there's a catch-up to it, but Kyler's awesome. I think Kyler's got one of the best arms in the league. And to the same point I just made with my home, Kyler Murray is a two-sport athlete. He's never played football in the spring in his life. Like, this is his first season ever learning an offense for an entire off-season.

So they took this way. And I was not overly critical of Josh Rosen throughout this pre-draft process, but everyone was treating Rosen like he was. worthy of that same conversation here's what i would post to you guys if steve kime doesn't trade up and takes josh rosen as the fourth quarterback and the 10th overall pick and gives up a third rounder to get him is josh rosen a top 10 pick is josh rosen a top 15 pick is josh rosen a first round pick we only think of him as a top 10 pick because of the team went up and got him but we're not so certain i don't think miami was taking him so you're saying

he could have been we don't know he could have been Brady Quinn or hey he could have gone in the second round and then there wouldn't have been this whole hubbub about this it could have been just like when the panthers wearing the geno smith sweater sure or jimmy clauson they took cam first overall the next year because they're like right but this thought that you know Josh rose in top 10 quarterback it's true he is top 10 quarterback but the team that drafted another quarterback was also the team that traded up to get him in the top so we don't know because he was such a polarizing prospect in some teams it seemed like would not even do their homework on him had no interest in him and some teams were like yeah this guy's the most

pro ready quarterback obviously we like him and then he was on the market and again i'm not trashing josh rosen i'm rooting for josh rosen i think he's actually a great character for the league he actually speaks his mind it's rare and it's nice but he essentially was traded for andy isabella this year on the open market speaking of like that is that sort of uh concern i'd have with murray murray is exciting because just the combination of the arm and that level of running is I don't know who's come into the league quite like that because I think people watching their practices are just like Derek Anderson maybe is the only I can think of he has a Baker Mayfield armor better but but with the running but there was some talk here

from reporters that have been at cardinals practice that there's insane concerns with Andy Isabella and Hakeem Butler yeah it's like counting on rookie wide receivers especially one from UMass and one that fell to the fourth round that it hasn't taken long even at offseason practices to be like, oh, maybe, maybe like these guys aren't going to be ready. Even if Kyler Murray's ready, he might not be ready. We're talking about a team that had one of the worst offensive lines, one of the worst wide receiver cores, one of the worst tight end rooms in the NFL last year. I know.

And I think he can cover it all up. I think he's like, I honestly think. So he's deodorant. Yeah. I think he's going to be a sensation this year. And I want you to enjoy it. I want you guys to enjoy it. I want you guys to do that stuff on good morning football, like coming up with nicknames.

Maybe he could be right aid or all. That's good. Spice. Young Spice. I don't know. Young spice. Young spice. That's good.

One very quick question for you, and you can keep it to one word. When you look around the circle here at the four of us, which one do you respect the most? It's a big question. Greg. Whoa. There's only one answer. That is absolutely. I would not have asked that question.

I knew you were going to go in that direction. That doesn't help my means or my angling at all. Actually, now that you answered it that way, Peter, we're going to have to. dig in hard on the next topic. We scrub that, Erica. May 21st, there's a story that runs in the New York Daily News. Here's the headline, Jets have discussed TV personality, Peter Schreger, in general manager search, colon, sources. Now, this, I imagine, was a completely weird slash uncomfortable situation for you because all of a sudden you're a big part of the headlines.

Manish Meadow, who wrote that piece, wrote that you would be contacted for assistance on prospective candidate. as the Jets look to replace Mike McCagnan. Do you want to use this forum, poolside chats, to clear the air on that whole saga because you were kind of the center of the New York media storm for a little bit there. Thank you, Dan, for that opportunity. All right.

So the truth of the matter is I've known the owner Christopher Johnson. In any way, I would know some of the other owners that I've gotten to speak with at the owner's meetings, combines and I could name those names I don't have to name those names at all but this part of the story that came out was that I attended Christopher's wedding last year that is true sure that was fancy it was fancy it was a great wedding I was no I was gonna say no but here's the clarification on that situation I'd met Chris Johnson a few months earlier we hit it off when I say hit it off it was he watches good morning football on the

treadmill in the morning and he was nice and we exchanged information whatever Fast for a couple months later, he texts me and says, hey, I got married a couple weeks ago, but we're doing a little celebration in New York. It's at this hotel, if you want to pop by, come on by, bring your wife. You're welcome to. We went, we attended, and we were probably there for 60 minutes time, saw him and his wife, said, hello, introduced myself,

and we moved right along. Little high society pop-in. Hey, I've seen gossip girl. I wanted to be a part of it. It was it. This is my moment. When you hear that, you're picturing me being the ring bear. down the aisle.

Best man, the little pillow. So, like, it's hard for me to deny it. I was at the wedding, but it wasn't really the wedding. It was after, whatever, fine. So, long story short, we keep in touch, whatever, it's fine. They reached out to me saying, hey, we might add another person to the preseason broadcast booth. I did the Rams last year with Nate Burleson and Andrew Sisaliano.

They're like, if, you know, if you don't want to do the Rams, we'd be interested, but let's, you know, keep those doors open. fine talk to a lot of people around the league about a lot of things I can assure you that I have not been reached out or was not reached out about the Jets general manager position I could also say that Mnisha's report is not necessarily inaccurate because the report was that they might reach out to me not that they did or not that it was for the GM position about my thoughts and I'll tell you straight up on our show for three hours a day I talk about hey Joe Douglas would be a potential good GM or you know ed dodds in indianapolis is really well respected he might be a guy to look for

or terry mcdonna in arizona is a guy so it wasn't what what was crazy though and this is where again nothing against the minisha port because he just put it out there and then it was no let's slam him right now no actually it was probably accurate if they were considering me it's because i do you know no guys in that building um they didn't reach out to me but the reaction was so vitriolic so I guess the word is the circus dysfunction that they would think about talking to a... The fans, you mean? By the fans, by the local New York Sports Media,

by the sports radio, by the sports radio. National media, too. The Jets must be completely, completely out of their minds to ask someone who's on television talking about football about who they might want. And I'm here to say, I don't think if they were to reach out

to Ian Rappaport or Adam Schaft or even you guys who treat this stuff like it's life and death 24, seven hours a day, it wouldn't be crazy to get a collection of a lot of people's thoughts. I'll test that. Here is the lead of Manisha's article. Especially the four of us. Just when you thought things couldn't get stranger on one Jets drive,

we present the latest head scratcher in the wake of Mike McCagnan's ouster. That, and we talked about this on the pot. I'm a Jets fan. I don't know if you know that, Peter. But like, that's rubbed me the wrong way, this rush to present them in a terrible light when it's smart to reach out to a Peter Shregor. People that are plugged into the league. I'm not kissing ass.

I'm just saying, Guys like you. It's not a bad idea. It doesn't make you dysfunctional or a circus. And here's the other thing. In years past, they've used a consultancy firm. So say, Corn Ferry is one of these big consultancy firms. You pay seven figures, and they're going to bring you the same list of names that I will bring you or that Adam Schaefter will bring you or that Jay Glazer will bring you or that you guys will bring.

Like, here are the guys who are respected around the league that are probably next up for GM positions. Here's one in this city. Here's a minority candidate. You probably haven't thought of or haven't heard of that it might be good. And so in light of doing what we've done in the past and hiring guys that haven't worked out, let's try different opinions for free. Often what's innovative is laughed at out of the gate. And you're someone that's talking to 32 different teams versus a bunkered in person who's with one team.

And sometimes those guys don't even know what's happening in the world around them. They're not even reading the newspaper. Your franchise is valued at over a billion dollars. It would be ridiculous. And we point this out all the time to limit the scope of your due diligence. And it does happen. It's like, how do you think? Adam Shepter and Ian and Peter get that information.

It's by sharing information. That was the thing where I'm annoyed by the way that article starts because Manish knows that, ultimately, that, like, information is traded. And it doesn't mean they're just, okay, we're going to do whatever Peter Schrager says. They're going to, hey, maybe we have a specific question about one specific guy that you would know, you kind of know the dirt because you talk inside that building. They're not getting the real scoop of what's inside. Who knows that does all the time. That's how the game works. that dods some love. No, but honestly, like a couple years ago, you know, I get to go

on sideline work for Fox. I'm in the building every Friday, and I'm in it since 6 a.m. in the morning because I do good morning football from the building. So if I'm doing sidelines for a Panthers, Buccaneers game, I'm in Carolina at 6am, and oftentimes, Ron Rivera will say, hey, pop by my office. Hey, do you know Steve Wilkes? He's our defensive backs coach. This guy's a stud. He's going to be a head coach in the NFL. You guys need to know each other because his work isn't recognized on a national level yet. Fast forward. or two years later, he's the Arizona Cardinals. That's how that happens.

It's not because it... I can imagine Peter just kind of like creeping around corners. Like, it's the defensive line. Like, hey, you guys busy. How does anyone worth hiring? How does something like that not factor into your personal head coach rankings? When you see a coach who's that selfless and once, like Bruce Ariens is known for this kind of stuff, like, doesn't that automatically make you think that that person's a better coach?

Yeah, and you see how they lead and you see how they're selfless. And I think, you know, to McVeigh's credit, we talk about the McVeigh and all this stuff. There was a good article from Michael Silver this week. And on the record, McVeigh is like, I think Matt LaFleur is one of the best. Like, you know, it's okay to give love to others and you see how these guys lead to interact with each other. And you don't get that if you're not in these buildings and get the opportunity to. So I guess. But it's also the reporter's job to say, is this guy just popping up his guy or is this guy really promising, you know?

I'll say this one more time on the Jets thing, though, because I do want to make this point as well. I think that the Buccaneers used them, and I'm not knocking the work. They do everything as far as checking the box and covering your ass and everything you ever need to know. If there's a thing in someone's past, I might not know it, but these guys, that's part of the consultancy process. That's why I use a search firm, because they'll know that in 1998 this guy had an issue in high school, and you might want to be aware of it. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to – unless you're paying me, I'm not going to do anything of that stuff.

They paid the consultancy firm or the search firm. you know, close to probably seven figures or high six figures. And the answer for who they recommended to be head coach was Bruce Ariens. Well, right. Which the guy at the bar still next to you could have done the same thing. So, you know, to me, or the four podcast bozos. To ask around and to ask other people, like who they would suggest is not crazy

when the gold ribbon panel, the ones that you're paying high six figures for, is suggesting a coach who's been in every organization and is 62 years old. Well, now that we're sitting here with you, I mean, you are, you know, I love the assistant coaches. We love the guys that are rising up through the ranks in the front office. Is there someone that comes to your mind sort of over and over as the next sort of unearthed gem, the Sean McVeigh from four years ago? Yes, he's on the defensive side of the ball, and I'm not pumping his tires because we don't have a personal relationship.

But Robert Sala is the defensive coordinator of the San Francisco 49ers. They haven't had the pieces, but this guy leads by example. And if you walk in that building, Kyle Shanahan is bona fide the guy. but that defense would run through a brick wall and would do anything for Sala and around the league he's been in Jacksonville in Seattle he is just viewed as one of these

morally straight edge guy we want to work and next year he will be a name that everyone saw him who has not had an opportunity you know in the past one of the things Les Sneak kind of said offhandedly

yesterday when we were talking to him did you guys address to the audience that Les Sneed was here and the whole thing Left Sneed spoke at all and have some context He spoke He was a keynote speaker at this But he said kind of offhandedly

I'm not worried about Miami They'll be fine They got the right guy You feel the same way About Ryan Floyd And I think there was a picture That their website put out Or maybe someone else sent

I don't even know if it's out there It was like TNT It's all over the building right now And I think it stood for like Team not talent Or something like that Like where it's

It's one of those mantras That like ooh I mean like I want a mantra Love him But the fact he didn't crown rose in his quarterback right away and I was like, no, he's going to earn it. The fact that those young players are fired up

and the fact that he brought with him a lot of that Patriots brain trust, they're going to be all right. Back to Houston and Jets real quick. Why is no one in the media going nuts about the circus and dysfunction and what Houston just did, it was not treated in the same light as the Jets?

And is it just a media market? Or that, hey, John McLean's the guy and this is what he says and the local beat reporter reported it this way. So locally, actually, I think it is. They got savaged pretty hard in the Chronicle. Tom Savage. But no one, no one cares for whatever.

No one cares nationally what Brian Smith of the Chronicle writes or what McCain. Wow. Peter's on the right track there, Greg. I'm saying it. I'm saying locally, no, they, I think O'Brien's not that. O'Brien, and it might be because of the relationships he's built with national reporters, which is another story. I don't think he's as popular locally as he is nationally, which is strange.

This is an 11-5 team that won the division last year and had no first or second round picks and had no salary cap, and they fired the GM. Yes. One year into a five-year deal, and not one person on our network or ESPN is going nuts like the Jets situation where they said, what are they doing? Well, the Jets were 5 and 11, 6 and 10, and 6 in 10 the last three years. It hasn't been in the DNA over the last decade for it and unrightly, but it's New York team to savage the Jets left and right because the Jets have been the Jets?

Is it fair? No, I agree with Dan's Fury over to some degree. It's just what it is. It's just what it is. It's fun. From the outside, if I wasn't a Jets fan, I'd probably enjoy it too because the Jets are one of those franchises that people seem to enjoy to watch the train go off the tracks. And then it's a bit of a pile on.

The Texans don't have that same situation. To be fair, there is one commonality among the Jets of the last 20 years. It's the last name of the owner. Yeah. And that hasn't changed. True. Well, I think the answer to your question is it because of how they're covered. When somebody in the Jets locker room sneezes, it's news,

and nobody cares what the techs do. So that's fair. Peter Schreger, you've said it all. Yeah. You've done it. You came. You laid in the sun. It's great.

You never even, not even any flop sweat. Just show us how comfortable you are in this setting. You feel great. SPF 1,000 right now. Follow Peter at P-S-S-C-H-R-A-G-S. This is a. little show within a show, I feel like you guys should never be locked in a studio

again. You live in L.A. This is it. It should be outdoors, poolside, and everyone's a little cooler, a little looser, and if beverages were included, I wouldn't have complained. Get some speedos involved, let's fly. That's get weird. The people around us might not agree. We're wrapping up, guys. Peter, thank you so much, and yes, watch

Good Morning Football, follow Peter's reporting on television and on the internet and all that good stuff. You're the man, Peter. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Love it. Thanks, Peter. Poolside. Poolside. That was excellent, great insight from Peter. And you could tell Peter had wanted to get that jet stuff off his chest for a while.

And I don't know if he had the ability to do that on Good Morning Football, but the Shadow League figure is maybe not aware that you could come in this show. You were the perfect conduit for that to happen because I think you are a Jets man with the eye on. Although he respects Greg the most. And that, we have to wrestle with that. I can't believe that's going to make it into the show. If it did, I have no control over this. My favorite moment of the week.

All right. So there you go. I can't wait to tell Peter who I respect most on Good Morning Football. Ooh. All right, here we go. Let's now, before we go, and by the way, last year and the year before Al Riveron, who is the head of officiating for the NFL, always the most fireworks is when Al takes the microphone and the Xbox controller and goes over the rule changes.

And obviously, with the past interference, OPI and DPI, now reviewable, that led to a pretty fiery series of exchanges with a lot of the former players, especially. We will get to that on, let's say, next week's show, a Monday show next week, because we want to devote a little bit more time, and we don't want to run too long today. So, Al Riveron's State of the Union at the NFL Media Summit will hit on Monday, but for now to close out today show, some general takeaways from the Media Summit. We'll start with you, Chris Wesley. Well, first of all, it's a room full of talented people. That's why they call it the Talent Summit.

And I'm always blown away by how strong-minded and how talented and how ambitious the people in the room are. But I also took so many notes that my pen ran out of ink. Half my notebook is full. brag and the big totally unique humble brag no one has ever done that the big takeaway for me is there are two kinds of people in this room the kind that make everything about themselves and every other human being on earth um

greg what am i one of those people you are not one of the people who makes it about yourself i wanted to hear that's what we're getting the corpo jug we're going to get to that at the last thing we do i'm where do i go i think Steve Smith being Steve Smith in every situation of his life is delightful. And we can, maybe we'll talk about that with Riveron, but he was given Riberon as much grief.

It is not for the camera, the Steve Smith stuff. And he's fun. He's, a lot of times in sports, you were like, oh, that guy's funny. Like, Steve Smith is legit funny, has great timing, has great comebacks right off the bat. Like, I am such a fan. He drops some bombs, and it's the timing. He, he, the way he would suddenly unfurl an A-bomb on the speaker ahead of him, just, no. Well, it's, he's unique because I think we see a lot of athletes, and he's only a couple years out of the game.

When they're a couple years out of the game, they're reluctant to speak their minds, they're reluctant to be themselves. And he seems like he's 100% Steve Smith, 89 all the time. Mark? All right, hang with me for one second, because one thing, this has been, you know, the third or fourth time we've gone to this. And a lot of the similar beats, which that would lead me to sometimes tune out a little bit when it's the same stuff as last year. But it was about in my mind 12 hours ago that I was in a car up on Sunset Boulevard after leaving yesterday's event with Brad Pitt, a young Gwyneth Paltrow, and Leonardo DiCaprio. And we were in a stolen police car. And then suddenly about 14 seconds later, I was in a massive lake in a sprawling wilderness, the lake filled with milk.

And I wanted to swim to shore, but all along the shoreline were hundreds of kittens licking the milk. and I just didn't know where to find my opening. And then I woke up and realized this was a dream that I had, and I wanted to share it with everyone that I knew. But I was told yesterday by HR that we are not allowed to comment on dreams that we have in the nighttime space ever again to anyone we work with. And it is quite disturbing to me. Does that seem like something I'm not allowed to share with my friends?

That's not, see, that's unfair because we should all be able to hear that. Why it's a good rule is that creeps will use the dream cover to get creepy. I know, but this is simply about a milk-filled lake. You're getting full on Cessler. That I can still tell you about that. Takeway. Obviously, a lot of talk about the Raiders moving to Las Vegas that came up and sports gambling and all that.

I learned that former NFL commissioner, Paul Tagliabu, refused to even fly over Las Vegas. do you believe that story to be apocryphal or true it's ridiculous i don't know can you imagine can you imagine and if if you're not connecting the dots that he was so against the idea of professional football and sports gambling that he didn't even want to be in the air range of the mecca of gambling but did he ask for the flight plan like when he was flying coast to coast i i'm curious about that feels like a howard hughes level myth um NFL networks omar ruiz uh remember sean case your boy with the Reds? The mayor. Well, that's what Ruiz is amongst the talent. Two of the nicest men on earth. The guy is bipartisan. He could work. He could work both sides of the aisle.

And he's a big star in the world of politics, I think, if he wants to be. And then my last takeaway is, you know, it's a long event. It was, the first day was essentially 8.30 until 630 sitting in an auditorium. And there are lulls. Not all the presentations land. And one prominent network face during one of the presentations sent me what I approximate to be a 300-word text message explaining the 1982 film E.T. as a meditation on faith. So I'm just going to read you. I am not joking. This was sent to me, okay? This wasn't Mark that sentence. It was not Mark. It is a prominent television fixture on an NFL network. That should rule Mark out pretty quickly.

One of my favorite movies of all time is E.T. Allow me to explain why seeing as I have plenty of effing time right now. The movie is a religious allegory, which Spielberg has denied, but who's he kidding? E.T. is Jesus. I'll spare you the details for now, but would be more than happy to share later. Anyway, E.T. says the letter B when he sees it on Sesame Street on TV. And Gertie replies, you said B, good. The little bastard then uses that line when he leaves and tells Gertie, be good.

some fake-ass alien that doesn't exist breaks it down minus all the religious bullshit other people use to weaponize their faith against others. It's great. So when you said be smart, I guess I said that, or whatever, when that lady was going on for hours, it reminded me of E.T. Same with this guy right now.

Wrap it up, Fien. Wow. I like the review. Do you believe? I need to hear that again, but I'm more like hovering around who possibly sent it on anything. I think I nailed it. I think I nailed it. That's correct. I guess the same thing Greg did. That's

correct. I do have two more, just quick ones. Okay. Number one, most people, they don't mind if you talk about gambling, but women over the age of 55, don't do it. Don't do it. They're going to hate you. We learn that. So sorry to all the older ladies out there. White women over 55. Whenever we've mentioned, yeah, white women specifically. And then finally, if you're coming off the stage. You just talked about HR or anything like that. Don't do a fist bump with the next person that's coming up. I don't know. I just, I just, it makes me feel awkward and it's just a tough moment in these, these settings. I mean, it's even worse when it's the, the high five and fist bump get confused and you get the half and half sloppy one, which happened. I saw that in one instance as

well. Wes, now we throw it to you and feel free to throw in another thought before you get to it, but we want to hear the official 2019 Corpo Jargon. I'll save most of my thoughts for the Riveron section coming up in the future. But 9.32 a.m. We're basically there for about an hour on the first day. And I wrote down, wait, who sent the memo to avoid Corpo buzzwords this year. That's true. It was obvious that somebody has gotten to these people and told them not to.

Now, I did catch them using weird words as verbs, which delighted me to know end when Somebody said, say that three times fast. Somebody said, well, what if this team is ID-Aiding on that? I-D-18? And we also got, we'll offline that conversation? Love that one. That's a good one. Let's offline this.

I've got this one written down. That was a great example, though, of someone making it all about themselves, taking out a total personal vendetta in front of 40 people. That was uncomfortable. It's a beautiful thing. So my favorite quote of the first day. day was, we sound like dinosaurs even saying this, but there's so much more beyond the linear space. That sounds like a crazy guy that runs a cult that wears red sneakers, you know, the whole group.

You might not be far off. Yeah, I heard linear space a few times, and I'm still not sure what they mean by that. It doesn't matter what it means. It just, it sounds good. What else? And then, really, this was like leading off the game with back-to-back homers. One of my favorite people in the newsroom area unleashed this in one breath. If we can put a button on this and point to a North Star

to Corfo jargans in one sense. Mad lives, like hit out of the park right there, basically. I love North Star so much. Yeah, and I think that's about it. Like I said, I think somebody got to these people. I know my boy Kingsley at one point said this was a strange kabuki dance, which I know isn't Corfo jargon.

That's a point. point to Japanese culture. I think there's been a real push to your point. Someone spoke it in some meeting somewhere that we were not invited to and never will be about let's look real transparent and genuine to these people, but then suddenly they slip back

into the old habits and that's where the jargon starts to pop forth. Yeah, I think they just not a lot of above the tree tops which I'm disappointed by. No, I think somebody got to him. I think maybe a secretary pushed something onto a desk and said these people said this in a podcast and you got to change your message.

this year. All right. Good stuff. Excellent. Well done. Everyone, including you, Erica. Thank you. Absolutely. All right. That's it for today's show. What is Eric? I always sound like a hostage. I don't know. I don't know. All right. So that's it for this week's show. Mark, you're going on vacation? Yes, I am. Correct? What are you doing? Family vacation visiting my parents and other people in New Hampshire next week. Nice. So not one of those staying in L.A. walking in the alleyways while carrying a

carouac book, not one of those. Not unless I alone missed the plane. Well, enjoy yourself in New Hampshire, which is in New England, which means a lot to you, Erica. Yeah, I'm from New Hampshire originally. I thought you're from Massachusetts. 45 minutes. And they are very distinctly different places.

I don't know. All right, we'll be back on Monday. We will hit the river on stuff. Mark, if you have any thoughts you want to offload, take it offline with me and we'll make sure they get into the show. I think it's a good one. Yes, I will send you some thoughts.

Just IDA for a while and then offline. I will do that. But, yeah, let's not get too above the tree tops here. We will be back Monday, so make sure you check it out. Thank you to everyone. And that's it. Stan Hanz is signing off for Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the old boss, and Ricky Hollywood behind the glass.

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