NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Post-Draft Questions for EVERY AFC Team
Episode Date: April 29, 2026Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Jourdan Rodrigue and Patrick Claybon to take a look at the state of the AFC now that the dust has settled on the NFL Draft. The crew starts with a breakdown of the AFC Nor...th followed by the AFC West, AFC South and AFC East. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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capping their draft and what it all means.
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Yeah.
It's only complicated if we forget somebody.
We won't forget everyone.
We're going to hit every single draft.
No, never.
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This is going to be all about the
AFC.
And yeah, I've said a lot already about the draft.
We did, we did day one, day two.
We did some winners and losers.
But this is more how these players,
now that we've seen the depth charts
fit into the context of the team,
what it all means. And I haven't heard a lot
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Let's start in the AFC.
We're going to put three minutes on the
clock for each and every team.
We're going to talk about their draft and maybe ask a question moving forward about this
team.
You're up with the Ravens, Patrick.
Okay.
I saw the scenario where there was a Bain fall and I'm thinking the whole time for months
that this was going to be a possibility.
But now, you know, Vega is there the best interior offensive linemen in the draft.
There's clearly a need.
There's no project, no discussion about moving somebody that plays guard.
to tackle the you neglect the position in previous years to the extent that John Simpson is having to come back.
Now you're drafting a guard in the first round, but you're not going to ding somebody because improvement is about self-evaluation.
And when you solve a problem of your own creation, you're still solving a problem.
Nice.
I am the Ted Hurst guy.
I wish, you know, I all love, you know, to Lane and everything he can do at wide receiver.
Jacoby Lane, USC, third round.
They get him a couple of picks before the bucks get Ted Hurst, who I love.
But, you know, in terms of what they want at receiver, because you saw it in Surat as well,
somebody who can make plays with the balls in the air, they get a couple of guys,
a couple of shots at the dartboard on that.
And so if it could work out, I just think coming back, the question a lot of it,
because, you know, with Declan Doyle, hey, it's Lamar, you snap the ball to him,
you block it up, they're going to score points.
this defense, does Jesse Mentor plus the return of Madabike
simply solve the issues for the Baltimore Ravens defense?
He gets a big one.
You know, they take an edge in Zion Young in the second round who
had divergent opinion.
Some people really liked him.
Some people think he's just more of just an edge setter.
He's very much a- Which they needed.
A Raven's type.
But can the combination of Mike Green and Zion Young really make up for,
you know, not getting Crosby?
I know you have Hendrickson, but that's not a great spot over there.
But you're right, they didn't add a ton.
I think they left a lot of questions moving forward.
And I think they might be a team that is pretty active in this post-compensatory pick
formula world signing guys.
They don't really have a center.
And tight ends pretty thin after Mark Andrews.
So those are two positions I worry about.
There was some conversation before the draft about Van Gogh
being able to move inside even further.
I know we don't want to like off and switch guys.
position to position, but there was some chatter pre-draft about the potential that he could play
center.
So he has the football IQ, certainly has the size and the ability and is great on the ground.
I think it's interesting.
What I really like that they did was that they didn't, I know this sounds a little bit galaxy brain,
but that they didn't just say, okay, Jesse Minter, we're going to go full on at the players
that you think you need to kind of make this scheme come to life.
Now, they're probably going to sort that out as they go over the next couple of weeks and
months and really understand who does fit and who doesn't with what he's got right now and what
he's going to do in terms of his scheme. I like that they address the fact that they need to
maximize Lamar Jackson and his potential with offensive linemen and receivers, combinations
of receivers specifically giving depth to this offense and dimension to this offense.
Love that. Shout at the end. Diego Pavia, who was going to be a tryout player,
Vanderbilt quarterback, has been signed officially to a three-year contract.
So congratulations.
Oh, the honking means it's over.
It's not.
I thought it meant like you were getting the end.
Greg didn't get the hint.
Or he,
yeah,
he took it as an invitation.
They could be an Injoku team,
by the way.
I'm thinking about teams where in.
Oh,
I like that.
I am up with the Cincinnati Bengals.
You know,
you trade the 10th pick for Dexter Lawrence
in a class without a lot of defensive tackles.
That makes you better right away.
Then they take some real size outliers.
They drafted a bunch of skinny guys.
Cassius Howell, who's a baller off the edge.
And you think about their line now with Miles Murphy,
might not pick up the fifth year option with him.
They bring in Jonathan Allen.
You have Boye Mafay.
You hope Shamar Stewart develops.
It's like a skinny group.
They also took a tall, skinny cornerback in the third round.
Sicario.
Who am I thinking of?
Sicario Davis, right?
Takario Davis.
Sicario.
That would be a cool ass name.
Yeah.
My question is, did they do enough?
very similar to your Ravens question. Did they do enough on defense? Because it is an entirely
looking, like different looking defense than it was a year ago. Yeah, I'm looking a little bit more
closely at what they decided to do post Dexter Lawrence acquisition because what they clearly
thought was, okay, this player is an anchor for us and we're going to build other pieces or
other complementary skill sets around him. And I think they really, it seems, it appears that they
really did try to do that. Cassius Howell, I think is a good fit.
you know, kind of springing loose a little bit off of what Dexter Lawrence can do.
And it's a great question because we don't know.
We don't know what the fight and Al Goldens are going to do, right?
Especially I'm concerned still about inside linebacker.
I'm concerned about, you know, safety.
I just think we need to see that they've gotten some size and speeds.
They can at least like lift the floor of what this defense.
Yeah, they have a questions at nickel back.
Right now it's a guy Jalen Davis probably who played a lot last year.
Kyle Dugger was brought in with Jordan Battle at safety.
Howell is a guy I really like, gives them a different vibe,
but linebacker to me is a huge concern.
And they have to sign some.
Some veteran will be signed at linebacker.
Right now, it's Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight.
But they attacked it.
We wanted them to attack the defense,
and they attacked the hell out of it,
and more or less ignored the offense
until some middle round offensive linemen.
Yeah, you just have to, you know,
veterans have to reevaluate that pick
as Dexter Lawrence was taken with that
particular pick and it's a
you know in terms of what he does
a deviation away from
anybody else in the league and so yeah
it's different
it so that has to be
I mean if Howell started which is probably unlikely
over Miles Murphy or Shemar Stewart they would have four new
starters on the defensive line with Mafay
Lawrence and Alan and
I think there's a chance that he starts
I think there's a chance that he's the best player
of the group I don't think they'll pick up that fifth year option
on Miles Murphy and
for what it's worth the draft Knicks all love Conner
Lou, who is a fourth round center that might have a chance to start.
But they're basically saying, like, Joe, you got this on offense and just kind of running back
the same group.
It is.
I mean, it's not like the worst theory in the world.
As long, I mean, factoring in as long as the defense does improve.
You know, this, this offense was far from the problem.
And, yeah, the depth along the offensive line is always going to be important.
The timer's so quick.
I like this better than the buzzer, to honest with you.
I asked Eric to get creative with the new solution.
He did it.
The Browns are up.
Andrew Barry.
Shut me right up, Eric.
Good for you, man.
Of the draft.
Yeah, it seemed like the Browns could do no wrong.
They read and navigated the draft.
Well, their picks made sense and several, including the receivers, which I'll get to in a
minute, are downright exciting to pair together and add, again, layers and dimension
and, like, real cool play design opportunity to this offense.
And they even got the camera angles correct in the draft room because Jimmy Haslam was not looming over the top of the head coach and the GM.
Instead, he stayed just out of frame.
This is the second, we don't know yet.
They have to play.
But it could be the second consecutive, really solid draft by the Browns in consecutive years.
And if you can do that, you can really turn the trajectory of your franchise around.
So that's my question.
Have they done enough inclusive to we are not really sure yet at quarterback?
to potentially alter the course of this franchise right now.
I think they have to.
I think you have to have expectations.
It's year freaking seven of Andrew Berry.
Like, yeah, like, I think it is okay to have expectations.
You went from three wins to five wins.
I mean, how many different, like, how long of rebuilds can you get?
And if this is as good a class as a lot of people think it is,
and I think it's a good one, too.
I think it's a great class.
You got two Phanos, by the way.
His brother signed as an undrafted free agent,
the tackle, Spencer Fianna.
That's fun.
I think it's okay to have expectations.
The quarterback is a major concern, obviously.
But beyond that,
I think you want to see them be much more competitive
in, like, win seven or eight games or something like that.
I think it's okay to, like, expect more in this long of a rebuild.
Yeah.
As you build and you grow off of the things that you've done previously,
last year's class was great.
And, you know, to, I think maybe we're projecting.
a little bit, you know, just based on the sheer quantity of picks, right?
And the quality of last year's draft.
Well, it's like, oh, they can, they can duplicate that.
In Concepcion was like my favorite player.
So that's obviously going to be right.
I like him in pairing with Denzel Boston, too.
Because it, to me, it's like, I'm not looking at just one of those players in a vacuum.
I'm looking at three players, the combination of Casey Concepcion, the combination of him with
Denzel Boston and with Harold Fanon.
Like, I think that is so fun for Todd Munson.
to kind of just really try to create with and try to set everything up.
They're setting everything up to leave no doubt about the quarterback eventually when they have to make that decision.
And you can go the easy Monkin to Zayflowers to Casey Concepcion Comp.
Yeah.
In terms of his utilization.
And you can kind of picture like this, you know, it's hard to picture Ravens' offense.
Of course, the biggest part of it.
But, you know, this is a 20, 2014 lighten up the field, but they can be.
serviceable at the very least, regardless of which second year quarterback or whoever is going to end up playing.
And I like they went so heavy offense.
Like Fano gets a lot of attention, obviously, probably the left tackle.
But they also took a third round developmental tackle.
They finally drafted linemen.
And then a guard.
And so you add four guys in free agency and trades, three more there.
You double up at wide receiver.
It's okay to be exciting.
It's okay to have expectations.
Patrick, you're up with the Steelers.
So the Steelers draft looked pretty good.
The glaring aspect of it is your online.
the phone with the player that you want to draft
and Howie Roseman is doing it again
and winds up taking him and so that
clouds, I think the overall vision
of what was a pretty
solid Steelers draft with that embarrassing
moment. I think Jeremy Bernard
is a solid player who can make plays
now that the Steelers have had to trade
for Michael Pittman Jr. and D.K. Metcalf
and they draft Bernard
addressing receiver reminding me
of those days where it's like, oh, the Steelers
know how to draft wide receivers.
Well, now that the best one that they've drafted,
since Antonio Brown was playing for the Dallas Cowboys,
they're back to taking quality at that position.
I think Any Hatcher, again, in a great spot of need on the offensive line,
in the middle of what was kind of a run-on tackles,
can help things.
But my question is, if Mike McCarthy is an upgrade over the FedEx air,
shout out to the United States Postal Service,
where does that upgrade come in terms?
Well, I just think, Greg, you know,
in terms of providing a service to the people, the United States of America.
I'm going to mention FedEx.
Sure.
I would like to mention...
What is the McCarthy-Fedex connection?
No, no.
It's...
Try to keep up.
It was Arthur Smith.
Arthur Smith.
So now Mike McCarthy
is going to be orchestrating his office.
Mike McCarthy,
a child of the people of Pittsburgh,
not the AI Mark McCarthy that Tom posted.
And not a, you know,
a child of nepotism.
So if he's there,
where does the upgrade come from
in terms of an offense
that was already severely constricted
towards the line of scrimmage.
And a bonus question,
what's more likely,
week nine,
Will Howard or week nine,
Aaron Rogers?
Oh, wow.
Well,
you, let's put a pin in Rogers
for a second.
The upgrades wide receiver.
You mentioned Metcalf Pittman,
Bernard.
Like, none of those guys were on the team,
you know, 18 months ago,
and only one of them was on it last year.
So that's the upgrade.
And yeah,
the play calling,
adding the attention to detail.
Rogers,
some news came out Monday
that the Steelers,
at the deadline
for this compensatory pick formula,
gave him the,
very rare tender of right of first refusal, which would indicate just in case they have his
exclusive rights to sign him if he's unsigned going into training camp and that he would count
for the compensatory pick formula. And he would like sign this one year $15 million offer,
which you would only do that if you thought there's a chance that he would entertain playing
with another team. So he's making us think about it. They literally put a pin in Aaron Rogers.
Yeah.
Like this is basically keeping him in place as long as they can under certain terms that you just described.
It's interesting to me, they also picked up Drew Aller out of Penn State.
So they've got Will Howard and Drew Aller kind of having like a midoff for backup quarterback or potentially starter.
That's where though, Patrick, to your question, the McCarthy question is huge because he was known back before he kind of became, you know, Mike McCarthy,
the retread head coach kind of guy.
As a quarterback developer,
he has worked really well with quarterbacks
over his history.
So I'm excited to see this.
I answered...
I think it's still Rogers.
He's not going to fake me out.
The question was Howard or Rogers.
Oh, Rogers.
What about Aller?
I mean, they just drafted a guy in the third round.
I don't think Drew Aller's got it,
but they just drafted a guy in the third round
wasting, just throwing picks out, willy-nilly.
Well,
makes you wonder a little bit
that they're a little worried about Rogers
and McCarthy wanted a guy to play with
that wasn't Will Howard kind of interesting.
I don't know about their draft.
There are another possible in Joku team.
I am up with the Broncos.
Only one pick
in the top 100
of the draft.
Of course, they went and got Jalen Waddle.
Tyler O'Nehettam in the third
who fits kind of their rotational
defensive lineman guy. Jonah Coleman
is a running back we talked about at length on the show
that I really liked.
tell me into the draft as kind of a Kyron Williams type, could lead the team in carries.
And so even the day three picks, the draft Knicks loved them for value.
So good draft, not a ton of, you know, picks at the top.
The only thing is, if you look at their all, you know, like they're 20, all 22 on our leads,
it's the exact same starting group except for Jalen Waddle.
So you could, and there's some great teams I've noticed this year especially,
a lot of continuity around the NFL right now.
Does that worry you a little bit to be the.
team that's just we're bringing everyone back and not much is changing. Patrick's giving me the crazy
eyes. No, no, it doesn't work. The quarterback got hurt. They had to play Jared Stidham.
Who played arguably the worst game I've ever seen in the postseason, Sands Brian Hoyer. And I may
have to go back and watch those Brian Hoyer. The weather was tough. I mean, Drake may honestly
wasn't that much better. The weather wasn't as tough. He was better. As Jared Stitton was. That's
crazy, Craig. But yeah, you add in a
in a place where it can expand the offense.
You get your quarterback back.
What were the glaring holes with the Denver Broncos that needed to do that?
I'm not worried,
but it's the theory of like when you win the Super Bowl
and you just run it back.
That almost never works.
But they didn't win the Super Bowl.
Right.
So that's what I mean.
It's the same logic that you always need to be changing your team
or else it gets a little.
Who's the position that they did change their team?
They literally get the quarterback that they should have had the whole time back
and also a improvement at receiver and a different type of player
at receiver too. I feel like to me,
the reason I don't necessarily worry about
the Denver Broncos here and sort of
of quote unquote running it back is
because of their offensive line.
If that position is stable,
it's a much better likelihood of
making another push the way that they did
if you have that position intact and stable.
And conversely, on the defensive line as well,
they did miss Jonathan Franklin
Myers, but also they clearly were okay
with letting him walk and
not extending him. And that
defense in general, keeping staff continuity, you know, I think that all of this, I just trust them.
I just trust at the end. And it's interesting because they approached this draft similar to free agency.
They didn't make many moves in free agency to all of a sudden they made one major one, right?
This draft here, they didn't make any major decisions in this draft. And certainly their picks didn't
start until the third round. Similar kind of approach where they're like, we like the guys we have,
we do still need to build depth for the future. Yeah. In the end, like the answer to my own question is like,
I'm not that worried.
I do think it's okay.
Had me in the first half.
I'm not going to lie.
In general, I can see this with a lot of teams.
That hasn't always worked because the team you had the year before isn't the same.
And I think Sean Payton was getting at that a little bit when talking about like we got a little lucky how many close wins we had.
But you mentioned it.
They've prepared well, for instance, for a guy like Jonathan Franklin Myers to leave.
A lot of depth everywhere on both lines.
Although their lines stunk in the AFC championship.
To be fair, that was maybe their biggest concern.
Jordan, Chiefs, you're up.
The Chiefs went really defense focused, which I like they needed to because they needed to lean on one of the best cornerback identifiers and talent developers in the NFL in one Steve Spagnolo.
These two corners, Mansour Delane and Jaden Canady have just Spags ridden.
Like he must be beaming from ear to ear right now thinking about what he can do with these players.
And I like the Chiefs draft overall because they traded up to get Mansour Delane, which you can debate the merits of trading up or trading back.
It sounds like two teams were going to potentially pick him if he fell to them.
And he was the player that they IDed as the guy that they wanted to get after their secondary basically went to the L.A. Rams last this past off season.
So I really like that.
My big question about the chiefs still, it's usually the question I have about the chiefs is did they do enough at receiver?
And then I look at the running backs that they drafted, you know, Emmett Johnson out of Nebraska.
And then they brought in Ken Walker, obviously, in the off season.
And to me, that speaks to potentially Andy Reid,
counting them in the passing game because of what we knew Ken Walker can do with the ball in his hands.
Emmett Johnson, similarly so, was lauded through the pre-draft process for his hands and his ability there.
So I do think that maybe he's counting that because otherwise they're still a little bit questionable or too thin at receiver.
One thing you said before the draft, which is so dead on, which is the teams tell us how they think about their own team in the draft.
And I think the chiefs told us that they're good at receiver and they're good on the offensive line.
And a lot of people thought those are two positions they would address.
I think Rashie Rice, learning that he's not going to face any more further punishment from the NFL,
inform that, like, that they can expect him in week one.
I think their pass rush guys that they drafted are going to be absolutely crucial to this season.
R Mason Thomas, early second round pick.
The R stands for nothing.
Right.
It's about as important an early second round pick because they just need juice.
And Peter Woods, who's a late first round pick at defensive tackle, again, they need juice.
And those are two guys that they're hoping add a little juice to their defense.
It's been about three years since they've had that
a great draft when they had with McDuffie
they could really use for this to be like that.
And that's why having the ammunition
that they had for the first time and forever
to co-up and get Delane
to kind of solve, to
pick out the spot of, well,
what is the most difficult spot
for us to add young talent
here and relative to what's
available? And so they're able to go up and do
that with Delane and then kind of filter
in guys like Peter Woods.
on the interior defense of line,
it's going to take time.
It's probably not going to be like one of those situations
where, oh, instant impact with Peter Woods,
but you don't necessarily need that instant impact.
You need...
Just occupy at least one extra per...
One person so that Chris Jones has blessed to do.
If you don't get instant impact, though,
like you need R. Mason Thomas to do it.
Or Ashton Jolati from last year,
like, their pass rush was an abomination last year.
They need Chris Jones to be like a little better
than he was last year.
too. And that's why
you draft on the traits of a guy like
Peter Woods where it's like, okay,
maybe your hands aren't where they're going to be
in year three, but big fast guy,
run hard. Also, Patrick Mahomes,
Justin Fields, Garrett Nussmeyer.
That's a weird, Qwee room. I love it.
Patrick and I are really respecting the honking.
I just want to throw that out in the universe.
Okay, that's my last honk of the day.
Patrick, you're up with the Chargers.
So the Chargers take Mesidor after three
tackles go in the previous five picks.
they eventually come back and get Jake Slaughter out of Florida, the center.
The speedster Brennan Thompson out of Mississippi State for Mike Mack to scheme up, so that's fun.
They come back and go the other direction in measurables to get the largest player in the draft in Travis Burke.
Logan Taylor, the guard, and another guard, Alex Woffie at 206.
So late in the draft, they go quantity on the offensive line.
But the quantity pick that they had early on goes to an edge that would have to either supplant a Hall of Famer
or a guy who had 13 sacks last year.
Did the OA departure actually put the chargers
in a position of need to take Akeem Mesidor
in the first round of the 2026 draft?
I think yes, because they were rushing three a lot.
And it was super productive for them
when they were doing that last season.
And so I do think that this was something
they considered to be their biggest need.
And also offensive line depth,
they got killed for,
and they had a position catastrophe
at both tackle spots, obviously.
But even before that, they just got totally killed by for not having enough like
developmental depth on the interior offensive line.
And now they do.
Sounds like Jay Slaughter, which is a badass name, by the way, could play center or guard as well.
So I know, again, we don't want to move people around too much.
But it is something where they, this was like kind of a self-aware draft by the Chargers
in my opinion.
I always appreciate when teams draft with some self-awareness.
And it was like very like Harbaugh gets his guys.
Mike Matt gets his guys and like it was a very identity kind of draft as well.
Yeah, like they just went volume on the offensive line,
hoping that they can develop some of these later guys.
It's a risk.
Jake Slater was a lot of people's number one center in the class.
You would have to imagine they are going to move him to guard as a rookie and cross-training him
because they signed Tyler Beattis, who's never played a different position.
I think long term, though, having a guy that can play center,
Beattish might be a one, two-year guy.
You have him on a rookie contract.
it all makes sense.
Like the entire offensive line is going to be different than it was a year ago.
Now, when after Joe Al got hurt, obviously the two tackles got hurt,
but all five starters will be different than the five starters that were playing in the playoffs.
I'm trying to just find out if the Chargers offensive linemen collectively,
if their group of last names is more of like a detective, a detective show title.
Slaughter, Beattish, Cole Strange, Joe Alt.
Or if it's a series of Pokemon.
You know, strange,
beatish, slaughter.
I could see it.
Strange and slaughter itself is a funny buddy pop film.
It's sick.
They need your guy from a year ago,
Trey Harris,
to kind of step up at receiver.
They didn't go receiver,
but I think the guys they drafted last year could step up.
And to answer your Messador question,
yeah,
I think the answer is yes.
And also,
Cleo Max very year to year.
He thought about retirement.
So I think they think of that position
as three starters.
And they got one.
Yeah.
And again,
It was highly productive for them last year.
So I can see at least the process behind that.
I'm up next.
It's the Raiders.
I love that John Spitech is back to being everyone's favorite.
They're so deep at Edge.
Our buddy Drew Christensen before we tape 40s and free agents,
the Raiders free.
He's like, did they even need Keirond Crawford in the third round?
Like, we got too many pass rushers.
I mean, talking about the Raiders having too many pass rushers,
I thought that was a good pick.
There was a big gap maybe between him and who was coming next.
Trey and Stukes in the second round can play safety for you.
They added four players in the secondary between rounds two and five.
So I think they told us a little bit what they thought about their roster.
Was that the defense, especially the secondary, actually still needed more work on offense.
After Mendo's, I mean, they had a million picks.
Trey Zune's in offensive lineman in round three.
And Mike Washington, kind of a big play running back.
in round four. My question is, are they setting up Fernando Mendoza for success? The number one
wide receiver right now on the roster is probably Jalen Naylor. It's the tight end.
Sure, but I'm saying wide receiver. Well, yeah, and I know they got banged for not like focusing
more high round pick attention on that. They needed more dimension in my opinion. And I say that,
you know, not to sound like a broken record, a lot of teams, I think, suffer from this where they get too many guys that are the same guys, or they, they kind of go and fall into these patterns or habits.
Malik Benson, I know he's a six-round pick, super late pickup, but he's a burner.
Like, he's fast, fast.
He can get behind a defense.
So we'll see if that works out.
I like that they address the quarterback development plan in free agency.
I think that's where you do it.
If you are going to spend that type of draft capital, the number one overall pick,
on a quarterback, you need to set up infrastructure for him around him.
The Linderbaum signing and then bringing in Kirk Cousins to sort of help in that bridge.
Like, I just think that they've already done their quarterback development plan.
And now it's about, okay, we really need to figure out the rest of the roster exists also.
One minute.
And I'm sure there was a scenario where they take a receiver earlier.
But that guy didn't fall to them.
They didn't want Dindel Boston.
I thought there were so many, like Ted Hurst and Chris Bell,
There were so many of these third round dart throws.
And they had so many picks I would have thought they would have done a receiver a little earlier.
But no.
Or Sarat.
Give Sarat to his old college QB Mendoza.
I think we could take away from that, you know, their comfort with regards to what they did do in the plan, which calls 2025 into question once again, like, what exactly was that?
Because you clearly are looking into this Kirk Cousins thing.
And I don't think it's going to be
Kurt Cousins all season.
I think eventually the number one overall pick
is going to have to play
because playing is how you improve
and I don't know how much watching is going to do
for Fernando Mendoza.
And to be honest,
I think good.
You know, if he goes out there,
you know,
has the slings of an arrows of outrageous fortune,
you know,
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And they got Jermad McCoy
in the fourth.
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I just shook it up and randomized how these divisions would go.
AFC South, I feel like it has to wait until the end.
A lot of the times we're going second with AFC South
in one of the premier teams in the NFL, the Houston Texans.
Yeah.
Do you guys ever feel like Texans' GM, Nick Casario,
is one of those sort of like
mild-mannered guys who walks around the office
and like his fleece quarter-zip
best and then in his non-work hours
he's in a fight club.
Because I feel like he and Damico Ryan's
just keep finding absolute ass kickers
to add to this defense.
And if there's one thing I'm starting to really, really trust,
it's that they will find guys
who can not only at times contribute immediately
but will just continue to make this
an absolute defensive factory.
This time it's Caden McDonald, the defensive tackle out of Ohio State who's going to contribute right away,
should give their run game an immediate boost.
Also, like, really love that moment for him when he did get drafted because he was super emotional about it.
And they didn't have much else to do on defense in terms of starters.
That was a need for them, sort of a quiet one after free agency.
And they needed some safety depth as well.
And so they always are looking for those guys and also linebackers as well.
So they paid attention to those spots in the draft.
I also like that they continued to address their offensive line.
Like this was a team that maneuvered its offensive line quite a bit in the off season,
some departures and also a couple of additions,
but also needed to get younger at certain positions too.
Kalyn Rutledge, it was a popular pick for them.
So I really like this draft.
And my biggest question is,
what can this offense itself specifically look like in year two under Nick Cayley?
I don't have any remaining questions about this defense.
right now and probably in the future.
But I do have questions about year two of this system.
How will they add in help for C.J. Stroud?
And who will C.J. Stroud even be?
I'm not worried about C.J. Stroud, but it is obviously a big question for them,
for him to regain the sizzle I think he had as a rookie.
Because it's less about the disastrous playoff game and more about the uneven regular seasons
that he's had the last two seasons.
where I think they haven't been as bad as people think,
but also they haven't been as consistent.
The weirdest rumor, you know, report throughout this whole thing
was that Nico Collins was potentially available.
They have a lot to sort out, Patrick.
That's what worries me with Kaylee,
who didn't seem like he sorted out.
Yeah, you have all these offensive linemen,
but you have a million to sort out.
And then after Nico Collins,
you kind of have a weird receiver group to fill out
where it's like, we don't know what the roles are.
Yeah, we don't know what the roles are,
but we know that there's talent there.
Yep.
Like top to bottom,
and we consider a team that was so gifted
so explosive, so good on defense.
And it's like, we just got to fix the offense.
And you look position by position.
You're like, wait, okay, so they got those two rookies from Iowa State.
They were pretty good at wide receiver, plus one of the betters, wide receivers in the game.
Tight end, they at least have one.
You get Tankdale back this year, too.
We'll see.
Turn of Tank Dell.
So it's like, position-wise, I want to look at this heavily defensive draft and be like,
oh, wow, why aren't they addressing the need?
It's got like Keelan Rutledge, Nick Cayley, C.J. Straub, they got to figure it out.
Yeah, and don't forget they addressed already.
David Montgomery is on the team with Woody Marks now.
And I really, so I really like this build.
They just have to do something with it at this point.
Welcome with a stick.
The Colts build has been fascinating to me over the last handful of years,
especially this offseason.
This is your team, Patrick.
Yes, the Colts get one of the better interior linebackers in terms of the draft
where they're able to kind of build on the need there.
The questions kind of go out to edge where,
It's, you know, a lot of it was related to what players were actually available when they did make the picks.
But in terms of, you know, filling out this need, where's that necessarily coming from?
And then also with the trade request, and I'm blanking on one of the better corners.
Sauce Gardner?
No.
Kenny Moore.
Yes, Kenny Moore, who's, again, you know, it is age 30 season.
You do get sauce.
but you have, in my opinion, a need at cornerback
where there's still spots on this team
that are massive areas of need
that haven't necessarily been addressed.
And my question, with the 2026 Indianapolis Colts,
obviously the status of dimes
and his availability coming back from the Achilles is there,
are there enough pieces to facilitate
a successful dime season even after he came back?
Yes.
To me, they're one of the biggest boomer bust teams.
Like, if everything goes right, I think it's just barely yes.
Although they could use another wide receiver.
Alec Pierce is coming off of surgery, and their third receiver right now is Westbrook-Kine.
People love Dionne Burks, who was a seventh round pick.
You can't even expect that guy to make the team.
But Daniel Jeremiah loved him.
Like, people love Dionneberg, so maybe he could help.
But they're really trying to thread a very short needle.
Whereas, like, some of these teams that are good, like the Rams, obviously,
we'll get to, like where you can't see starters out of the class.
The Colts didn't have a first round pick, and they're definitely starting C.J. Allen,
and they're almost certainly starting A.J. Halsey, their third round pick,
who people loved.
And some of their later guys also, I think are going to have a chance to play right away.
So high risk, I think, approach.
CJ Allen picked a team match, one of my favorite ones in this entire draft,
because he immediately, you know, they parted ways with Zier Franklin.
And it was probably time at that point.
and they needed to get a day one starter, Captain Green Dot material in that building
to shore up the center of their defense that had a lot of issues last year.
And so I like, you know, you've talked about a lot about statements of intent, Greg.
This was one of them for them.
No first round picks.
So you're not going to probably draft an edge rush or you're not going to reach on one
in the second round.
So you're going to go take other areas of your defense in the second and third round
that are super, super important to that group.
And that's C.J. Allen and then A.J. Halsey at safety, like you mentioned,
I think that they really, I like this draft class.
And I think it works based on where they're at.
I also don't think they necessarily added like a premier receiver with a high pick
because they also have Tyler Warren and then they've sort of declared him as one of those mismatch receivers.
So they're building out these layers, but you're probably looking at him as like a volume one or two and receiver three essentially.
And they go volume at edge at five and six with gums and curry.
but it's you hope one of those guys
hit, they have to. They sort of do.
I like that my guy,
DJ Allen, getting the first round
treatment. Whenever you're the second round pick, but they
didn't have the first rounder, you get the first round
treatment and he deserved it, one of my favorites.
The Jags also did not have a first round
pick because of the
Travis Hunter trade. They
angered a lot of the draft
nicks because they went so far off the
consensus board with a lot of their picks.
The thing that got a little lost
in the shuffle afterwards was how
James Gladstone talked about it, and he said, we continue to just place a higher priority
on the intangible elements of the...
So when people, I think, almost unfairly, like, hey, you think you're smarter than the rest
of the NFL?
When he's saying that we're focusing on intangibles, I do think he's telling you, yeah,
like, we're trying to look at things differently.
We'll see if they're right.
The only problem with, like, taking, you know, Borchurcher in the second round,
which people were shocked about the tight end, and it started this.
tight end run is like if all these tight ends and marlin klein was another crazy one with the texans
if all these tight ends were worthy of second round picks like why why didn't these tight ends in
free agency get paid more like kate otton's a 20 million dollar player if you're if you're taking
burr quarter uh in the second round they didn't get paid more because they were coming in the draft
right like it helped these are teams capitalizing on a surplus right and i think the the argument
would be like we'll see they're projecting a lot in an older uh player who's not necessarily
necessarily going to be like a big blocker,
but Albert Regis,
Jalen Husky, Wesley Williams,
all these guys that they were taking
like a risk on.
Do you believe that there is a way,
Jordan,
to find intangibly rich players
better than other teams?
I guess we'll see, you know?
I mean, I've done a lot of work on scouting
and process and all that type of thing.
I think a lot of teams think they are,
they have a good process of doing that.
But you just don't know, right?
Like I guess we'll have to see.
He said like that's kind of their focus.
And to the point where they will ignore, I think, some of the other more traditional stuff,
like combine numbers production age.
I will tell you, I will tell you too, just knowing that building, they're not ignoring
the consensus board.
Like they probably have a bigger built out consensus board.
Like they're using like our friend Aref Hassan.
Like they are using these things.
They're aware of them.
But they're choosing to go in a different direction.
And that is really, I don't want to say strange, but it's intriguing to me.
I'm curious to know more about why they did that.
I love it, but they also didn't get almost any production out of their rookie class last year.
So they need that class to step up and they need these guys to play.
Because then if you go a couple years like that, then it gets really worried.
And I think eventually you will need to tell people what aspects you are using to evaluate these guys.
I would like to know.
Yeah, because saying intangibles, it doesn't mean anything.
Like, what is it?
Well, Casario talks a lot about he wants captains.
He wants guys who are married with, like, kids.
He wants responsible, like, young men.
And he wants them to join.
his fight club.
Right.
I don't know.
I don't think that's
what the Jaguars are doing,
but that's what Casario talks.
Well, yeah,
the married with kids things
is preposterous.
Yeah.
It's incalculably vapid.
But the whole
intangibles thing.
Yeah, like James,
let us know what the thing is
because saying intangibles,
like you couldn't evaluate
based on intents
proprietary information.
Because they're intangible.
I'm going to find out.
How can you evaluate
on something that's intangible?
Wait.
Did you say incurably vapid?
What did you say?
incalculably vapid.
Incalculably vapid.
That's a winner.
That is what the Tennessee Titans will hope not to be this year.
Basically, do not be the incalculably.
I can't say that word.
Vapid team.
Amazing.
You gave it a credit to Boletown.
Thank you.
Yes, I have the Tennessee Titans, excuse me,
not even halfway through last season.
We, at this desk, we're all collectively tearing our hair out
about all of the drops and inconsistency that Cam Ward had along his skill,
excuse me, at receiver during his rookie season.
season. Now he's got a new best friend.
Yes.
Arnold Tate, who the Titans really surprised everybody by drafting him at number four.
But it was pretty clear with all the hype around them potentially picking Jeremiah Love that
they were going to go offense.
And I really liked what they started doing in this draft because they had some fun with pairing.
I think players, their head coaches were going to like.
Now they have two head coaches in the building or former head coaches, one currently the head coach
and Robert Sal.
And they also have Brian Dable.
So it really felt like.
Assistant GM Brian Dable, he's doing great.
I, I, it really felt, it really feels like they're kind of getting, they each got like
their guy guys because later in the first round, Keldrick Falk really does feel like a Robert
Sala player who traits that he would like to develop and a player who he can really kind of
see a vision for. So I like the intentionality that they went through.
I, I like that in the off season that they rebuilt their defensive line.
It looks completely different now with Falk and then also Jonathan Franklin Myers being there
next to Jeffrey Simmons.
My big question that remains,
like what does success actually look like
for the Tennessee Titans this season?
Kim Ward playing more consistently
and having a productive offense.
Obviously, you don't want Salah's defense to fall,
like, to be terrible,
but they don't even matter that much to me.
They could be anywhere from like 24th to 10th.
It's not going to change how, like,
great seat if you're Salah, you know?
And Daible, like, think how different
this entire roster would be of
Davele wasn't there. He has so many ex-gions.
But yeah, if this works out, and Tate is
only the second
number one over, or third number one overall
pick to have a receiver drafted
the very year after. Good history here.
Joe Burrow got Jamar Chase the next
year and David
Carr got Andre Johnson the next year.
So let's hope it works like that.
Yeah, if he's Jamar Chase or Andre Johnson.
That absolutely
works out. I think success
for the Titans looks like
road wins
in like two of three.
In Indianapolis,
in Houston or Jacksonville,
they get those,
they get two out of three of those wins
against pretty good teams.
They're all playoff contenders
where you can say, all right, they've arrived.
They are within the division.
They're having success there.
If they get that,
I think we can project long-term success.
They kind of remind me a little bit
of the Saints last year or a lot of that division.
Like,
the jump from three wins
to six or seven is actually one of the easiest jumps you can possibly make in the NFL.
That's success.
Just getting to like, not great, but okay, but especially on offense.
Well, improving on offense and showing your building an environment for your future franchise quarterback
is going to be the end-all be-all goal here.
And it has to be.
And so that's why I like about what they did in free agency combined with picking Carnal
tape.
You're just giving the quarterback more tools.
I love that tape pick, the more I sat with it.
And I'm surprised some people don't.
They're dumb.
The bills, they're up.
Patrick Claibon is going to talk about him.
Yes, and the Buffalo Bills are able to use their draft capital to address multiple spots
where you get T.J. Parker out of Clemson and you're like, wait, this feels like a McDermott
pick in terms of the type of player there, but they address needs.
They address needs in the secondary as well, and the Buffalo Bills.
Also get a wide receiver in terms of.
of what they can do
in this draft where
they've got
a
unit, a group of guys who haven't necessarily
had success where
they bring in the veteran edge rusher.
So they address needs there
in terms of trying
to stay healthy. I think Brandon Bean would like to get into
the postseason where they say,
okay, these are the guys we can count on
and rely on to play
and rush the passer.
it's just a typical question of was enough done.
Right.
I don't see the vision on defense.
I do worry about it.
They've added people this year.
I don't know if I necessarily see them as like Jim Leonard people.
That was how they talked about really taking this group over.
Like we have a vision for the whole team.
I don't know if I see it yet on defense.
We'll see.
Expand on that, please.
Because Ali was like pretty fired up on the winners and losers podcast that you guys did.
recently and I thought it was super interesting
because when you look at this draft on paper,
it does look like they've addressed their defense.
Yet when you go,
you know, pop the hood a little bit
and Ollie was pretty
solid talking about this,
he says that these are not scheme fits to what he
knows that Jim Leonard.
Well, does Jim Leonard want to live?
Jim's, Jim Leonard's scheme really is.
We think it's going to be more of, you know,
the Vance Joseph guys in multiple positions,
a lot of post-nap movement, a lot of like versatility.
And that's not necessarily what they've focused
on this offseason.
And it is interesting to see.
We're taping this in the studio.
We got the nice graphics up if you're checking it out on YouTube.
And it says how the bill is eliminated by the Broncos.
And Jim Leonard's team last year.
It just makes me think, man, that's another Super Bowl appearance.
They really should have had.
They should have won that freaking game.
They were playing well.
They would have beat the Patriots.
I think they probably would have lost in the end.
But that's like two Super Bowls they were robbed by.
Sorry.
That's just a distraction from the larger point.
Skyler Bell could be like a future Kahlia Shakir partner
where he does some similar things and Josh Allen likes to use him.
Yeah, I like his upside in terms of just like he, he,
you want to talk about versatility.
I do think that he's a versatile player.
He's kind of like toolsy.
He's physical, like all of that.
But I also think I'm higher, Patrick, to answer your initial question,
did they do enough on offense?
I'm just, I'm higher, I think, than most on the DJ Moore edition.
I think he plus the tight ends.
You know, Brandon Bean alluded to this.
And I know he says it every year,
but he alluded to this a little bit more,
Greg, with us in our very brief interview we did with him at the Combine,
actually committing to getting a little bit heavier in terms of the personnel,
not using the extra tackle, doing more things with the tight ends.
And I think that this, you know, getting their guys healthy will be important.
But I like DJ Moore's fit with that type of plan.
The roster, even though I think it's got some problems on defense,
not as bad as I thought once I went through it.
Still, still Super Bowl contender.
The dolphins are not.
maybe the worst roster in the NFL.
I love this draft.
Right now?
I love what they're doing.
I think when you have so many picks,
you're going to have ones that are popular.
Chris Johnson, the cornerback at the end of the first round,
was great.
Jacob Rodriguez was an interesting pick that they chose him kind of over
CJ Allen and some of the other inside linebackers,
but he sets a tone.
Chris Bell is a third round pick with a really high upside from Louisville,
but Caleb Douglas was a guy that people were,
stunned went that early, we'll see.
I mean, their number one receiver right now,
potentially is Greg Dulcich, their tight end.
I mean, they have no, I can't remember a worse wide receiver edge, you know,
combination.
Their top edge is Chop Robinson, who hasn't been able to stay on the field.
So they didn't really get to address those positions with anything.
Sure, like, I like the draft, fine, but do you think this is the worst roster in the NFL, Patrick?
But it's why I settled on after going through 32 hour lads groups.
No, I don't.
I would give the edge to a different team.
If the Arizona Cardinals have to play Gardner-Mendrew.
He finally came back around.
Yeah.
The Arizona Cardinals have an awesome offense other than quarterback, actually.
I've kind of settled in on that.
Like, that's another conversation.
Yeah.
No, I mean, it's Jacoby dependent to me there.
But yeah, I wouldn't say it's,
the worst roster in the NFL, but I mean, it's in the discussion.
This is what rebuilds look like, though.
I'm not killing them for that.
I think some of these picks will work out.
Some of them don't.
You said you really loved it.
What made you love this class?
I loved it because they followed exactly what this build is supposed to be.
They have established who there.
Now, John Eric Sullivan is calling them pillars.
Previously, they've been known as weight-bearing walls.
He's established who they are and then picked in volume on the other side of that movement
in free agency.
And I think that that's important because a lot of these guys are going to play right away
and they're going to have to see kind of what they can be and what they can contribute.
And I think if they get, you know, if they even hit on 40% contributors, key role players
in this class, that is a successful draft.
And I like that they had, they picked 13 picks the most of any team.
And I appreciate picking in volume when you are going through a rebuild, a decimation of their defense.
that's that significant.
And I absolutely think that, you know, a guy like Chris Johnson is a cornerstone type of guy
who you can build around.
I appreciated this draft because to me, it's really part to whole sets, it really is in sync
with their overall plan.
Not a sprint rebuild.
It's a sprint.
Same old rebuild.
I maintain that.
Caden Proctor's got to work out.
You passed on Caleb Downs.
I do think them and the Giants, I'm going to keep an eye on those two for passing on Caleb
Downs.
Talk to me in 20.
Right.
After, you know, as 2027, like halfway through the season, get to me at the midway point.
Because these are the exact same things that people were saying about the 49ers, the Bucks, the Rams.
Yeah, but those teams were previously good and had like great players.
All teams that decimated their roster and then overhauled it in rapid fashion by taking on a lot of dead money and then picked in volume on the other side.
I think, yes, they were coming from a position where they didn't have like the longest playoff drought, you know, winning, you know, in terms of getting a win.
in the NFL. That's the problem. They're building really from the start. You got the Patriots,
who felt like they were in a similar position last year and then ended up in the Super Bowl.
What do you think? I appreciate it again, like I just mentioned with Miami, I appreciate when a team
has a lot of draft picks and then things kind of make sense with their decision making. Caleb Lomu
might have given us the best intro video of the entire draft and one of the best I've ever seen.
I like that they went that direction with their first round pick and then they grabbed a
another tackle later on in Demetrius Crownover, also a great name.
I like that they hit the other side of the line of scrimmage.
Is it Yacchus?
Yacchus, Gabe Yacchus, who is a fast and aggressive ass rusher.
He fits kind of in with what they need to really desperately add on that side of the ball.
They had a tight end need as well.
They went with one with their third pick, Eli Rarden out of Notre Dame.
He's more of a blocking tight end, but it really balances as well.
If teams are wanting to put multiple tight ends on the field at once, which they are,
really fits in, again, piece of a larger puzzle.
You could see the strategy.
And first and foremost, and most importantly,
it began with continuing to add to their offensive line,
continuing to add to their pass rush.
Those are going to be needs for them.
I would say again, in the coming year as well,
they just were decimated.
They just needed so much help.
But I think this is a really, really great addition
to what they built last year along those lines.
Yeah, Yacchus is kind of, you know, a rugged, like power player.
Like, that's their type.
and they needed to get younger.
It was an old, pretty slow defense, still pretty slow at linebacker.
It would be interesting if Lomo possibly, it plays left tackle for them,
like if they do consider playing Will Campbell inside,
but it gives them some flexibility.
I think that's part of the advantage of that pick.
Yeah, and they have the options, right?
And once you, you know, it's better to have the options than to not,
and it's, you know, not to say you're forced into a situation
where your guy you took in the top five to play tackle, it has to play tackle.
but they would be able to move off of that.
I think when we consider all of the other things
that they've done this all season,
including the one thing that has yet to be done,
that we're all projecting that they're going to do.
AJ Brown?
Yeah.
It's hard to evaluate everything
until that thing actually happens.
Let's predict what they give up for him.
Anyone have any thoughts?
A first and a second.
Whoa.
That would be a first and a fourth.
A problem for me.
Howie Roseman.
Next year's 2028.
First and a fifth.
I think like first in Kishon Booty.
How about that?
But at first is rich.
It might be a couple years out there
as one report,
like that it could be a 28 first.
I don't know why the Eagles would want a receiver back in the equation
after doing what they've done to their receiver's room over the line.
Just the different style than the types of guys that they have.
I guess Stowers kind of plays a Kishan Booty role.
But maybe more just like why not.
But yeah.
I mean, that probably isn't really changing the,
equation too much, Kishen booty. It's a nice little throw-in. Nice little booty.
As a Patriots fan, what did you think about their draft? It's fine. Fine. I don't have,
I don't have hot takes on Lomu. I like the... My big question about them was, like, on paper,
and especially factoring in the potential of this Trey, of this AJ Brown trade, like, on paper,
they look like they got better. They're also going to have a tougher schedule this year. So what will
this team actually be? I worry that they're giving up future pitch.
six to get slower in general for a team I think was a little slow, but I like AJ Brown.
You're up with the Jets.
Is this the last team in the AFC?
Well, and that's the thing about the Patriot schedule getting tougher.
The Jets got better.
Not only do they get the cor, you know, the parallels, Dan Campbell in the turnaround with
Aaron Glenn there.
They get Aiden Hutchinson.
Well, here's David Bailey.
They get Sam Leporta.
Well, here comes King and Sadiq.
They get a couple of national champions in Omar Cooper.
and DiAngelo Pons on both sides of the ball there,
where you see the vision for the way that this is going to work
in this edition of the Aaron Glenn era.
But the question comes back to a couple of guys that have seen
and played and done a lot of football and Frank Reich
and Gino Smith,
is that the recipe for success still?
Like, even after this draft,
which I do feel great about in the year for our Lord 2026.
I'm more worried about Reich
in a weird way because I think,
I think Gino, we kind of know who he's going to be.
Let's say in a better situation,
he's going to be like a high level
backup bridge starter type,
ish. But can Frank Reich
provide that? We'll see.
Sadiq, I think there's questions of like,
how do you see using
him? You know, Mason Taylor is going to
probably have to bulk up and be a little bit
more of that Y tight end and do the blocking
while Sadiq is running up the scene.
Yeah, I could totally see that. You know, it was funny.
It was like the Jets were almost like
listening to all the conversations of people's favorite players in this draft, because it's Kenyon
Sadiq, who is a lot of people's favorite player. It's Omar Cooper Jr. He's a lot of people's favorite
player. DeAngelo Pons, which was really a nice moment when Pons, who got the Aaron Glenn comp,
goes to Aaron Glenn and Aaron Glenn watching him like, you know, like a proud dad watching him on the
screen. It's, I really, it's hard to fault this draft. It's also hard to say, okay, the Jets,
the Jets, right?
Right. Like on paper, their roster
looks okay. Now, they have eight new
starters on defense. I think it's a big test.
Can Aaron Glenn actually coach
defense well in this modern
NFL? He's kind of using some of the old
Parcell stuff. It didn't work
great at the end of the Detroit run. He has a lot
of new players, including
the number two overall pick in the draft in
Pond. So I think he's got to make
it work. I think Darren Mugie, though, has set
himself up well. It's hope season. The fact
they have three first round picks next year,
I think he's kind of insulated himself from
Oh, yeah. He's built, he's built himself a castle.
He that, any changes that go on.
Do you think Aaron Glenn can get it done with all these new guys in free agency in the draft?
I hope he gets a chance.
Well, he's going to get this season.
Aaron Muzzi's job with hypothetical picks.
I would like, I would like Aaron Glenn to have.
And he had to lose Quinn and Williams and Soss Gardner to get it.
But that is a difference, I think, between let's say, the dolphins rebuild and the Jets rebuild is that the Jets are really selling hope with these three picks next year.
And that's the advantage in the GM coach dichotomy is it's easier for the GM to sell the future than the coach.
Because the coach has to sit there and answer questions every time after Sauce Gardner and, you know, Quinn and Williams are making plays for other teams.
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they are better than expected on defense this year.
The safety that they picked up, the corners, I really, it's good on paper.
I mean, I like their line.
Yeah.
I think it was a great week for Gino.
Gino Nation, we are so back.
We thought it was over, but I'm a Jets fan, at least for 20, 26.
We did it.
Around the AFC, we did it all week, all 32 teams.
I think we've accomplished a lot, and I appreciate your friendship.
And most importantly, what you contribute to NFL daily.
Friendship comes and goes.
This shows forever.
Yes.
In reverse order, that's your hierarchy.
No, it's not.
We will be back one more time this week, myself and Nick Shook talking about some of the veterans that were impacted by the draft.
And then I think that finally wraps up our 2026 draft coverage and the off season really starts.
We'll see you that.
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