NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Post Super Bowl Notebook Dump

Episode Date: February 23, 2022

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal and Colleen Wolfe take you through all the storylines from the "notebook" of the past week after the Super Bowl including birds, cryptic instagram posts, and franchise tags. Gregg needs to meet his plumber. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mark Sessler took a week off Marky we recharge the batteries and now we're back how you feel? I don't feel recharged in the classic sense but I do appreciate what happened over the past week in many ways Oh, I mean tell us more

what did happen a lot of it is not for air but, I mean, I found I needed to kick off my off season in a way that felt appropriate for me. I feel like I can feel a different vibe already. Mark is leaning back, which I don't think he's done since office. He's usually right. Sitting up. I'm a little annoyed.

I'm a edge of the chair, wide-eyed. One thing I noticed, we're in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. We've got a large bay window here that overlooks the hallway. And in weeks previous or even earlier months, people would stop and watch what we do here because there was an element of fascination. Nobody cares now. they're just walking right by. This is just common place. You want the attention.

Yes, I do. Hey, listen, if you're talking to a microphone for a living, guess what? You like attention. That's just the way it works. By the way, I have a guess. Aaron Rogers was on his pancha karma, 12-day cleanse. Did you do an intense cleanse? No, I did not do that particular one.

I just learned about that. But am I on the right track? It was not a cleanse in the way that health experts would suggest. Let's put it that way. Interesting. Is it a conversation that you would have with Justin Graver about something? Like, what is... No, I mean, I just like, it's just simply not fair.

Greg, you are wearing a member's only jacket right now. Not officially. We're on NFL network today. And there were some jokes. Jason Kleiman, one of our fine producers pointed out that you look like the guy that killed Tony Soprano in the last episode of the Sopranos. That's maybe killed him, maybe didn't it. That's the nicest thing he's ever said to me.

I'm picturing like, don't stop believing playing. And Eric is trying to parallel park and keeps failing at it. But a lot of people are giving you positive feelings. back as well it's it's been quite a topic yeah i'm going more like corey friendberg um in guineas you know cori feldman cori feldman yeah not friendberg friendberg um that who the fuck is cori friendberg i was an attempt to connect the dots there i appreciate that that that was someone from my college uh life that i have a lot of stories and i don't want to talk to get him on the show i um yeah you know jr already came came at me hard but you know it just led to me having a great connection with a

A lot of my co-workers I haven't spoken to in a long time. That's important. Beautiful. And I was up in Big Bear this weekend. Really good. First, you know, first we went to Disneyland. I took the Locke's trophy there and, you know, did the whole thing, did all the media rounds. Then I went up to Big Bear Village and they threw me a parade.

Wait, what is that? Wait a second. Is it? Oh, my God. Oh, it's Connie Fox's music. Oh, it's Connie Fox's music. Oh, my God. Oh, my God!

That's a professional right there. She knew where the cameras were. She knew where the marks. I love it. Well, see, also, I... Oh, my God! I worked out yesterday, and I'm having trouble walking today. So that was a stretch.

Pushing it right now. Turn that up with my earphones, Ricky. I love the song. It got pretty contentious. I remember when we were choosing that song. I remember West did not. not want that song. There was a battle.

There was a couple options. Well, there's different sides to Colleen. And a couple of the other songs I thought showed maybe the more delightfully awkward version. Like when you get into those corners, one of the songs that I think West. I live in that corner. Sure.

Mark. Didn't West like a more like Calypso version? There was another great version. And ultimately he had to come around to the idea that, I don't like it. It's Colleen's song and that that vote should count a little extra. Greg, for the record, I think your jacket is very. Thank you. Thank you.

Listen, I haven't made a statement on it one way or the other. I'm just reporting as a journo. It's a thing. It's a thing out there. It's part of the discourse, both on the network end behind the scenes. That felt defensive. I don't think so. Did that seem defensive for you?

I don't think so, Dan. I think you're being, as you mentioned before, like, you're a showman and you have to have that kind of sense. I'm wearing a polo shirt from Target and a free NFL swag with a stain on it from an event we did the Friday before the Super Bowl. I think you're, you know, you're a host. You're like Aaron Rogers. You just like to put things out there and see the people react. All right. Speaking of Aaron Rogers, he's in the news, as he always is.

A lot in the news. This is our first show, Connie, since Super Bowl 56. This is your phone. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I never use a blue pen. Yep, here we go. And so.

Never use a blue pen. Never. Okay. Never. God, you and John. John doesn't do a blue pen either. That's so weird to me. John Rowland

Who? John Rolls Gonzalez See Ricky They threw her a surprise 30th John Ronald Gonzalez There we go

1977 is an American sports writer Who's mayor to NFL media broadcaster Colleen Wolfe John who's a Pisces resides in Los Angeles With his wife and two dogs Do you have no blue pens in your house No I throw them out

Is this like a clan You're like writing utensil Clown scenario Like you're not in- Yeah I don't like clowns either But through Jet Erica's girlfriend

Through a surprise like weekend wine trip thing and she got back over 24 hours ago and she came into the studio and sounded like she was on something like we're worried about her why are you whispering i can still hear you have the head falls off how are you how is your week i'm great i'm wonderful i had the best weekend in my entire life wow yeah really did really did i feel amazing the pros step up that was not the version erika we heard no or the mike's turn or even that last night we we taped an episode of the Jocelynick and Rosenthal Vanity Project. I was like, this is the second straight podcast I've done where she's hungover, which is

a record. Yeah. I'm not hungover anymore. I'm just like ill. You know what I mean? Just. You'll be okay. Yeah.

Anyway, so this is our first show since the Super Bowl. It's also, today is kind of officially, unofficially, the start of the offseason. And I'll get to that in just a minute. But since, Connie, you know, you are a, you're a journalist in a way. Mm-hmm. Right? I guess. Do you classify yourself that way?

I always have a hard time whenever I'm like at a new doctor or something like that. It's like, what's your occupation? And I'm always like, I guess a broadcaster, a host. I don't really know. Broadcaster, I think, does it for like a for another audience. They understand that. And sports broadcast. It sounds weird because it could be a restaurant.

Even before you made it big, you were doing broadcasting from golf courses. That's sports. Oh, yeah. You're a sports. So famous there, yeah. But anyway, now that the offseason is kicking off in earnest and we haven't done a show in nine days, which is close to a record for us,

we figured this would be a good time to do a notebook dump. Now, that's industry jargon, journals that cover teams beats, right? Yeah. I'm not mansplaining. I'm more talking to the audience and addressing you directly. You're mansplaining to the audience, but that's fine. When they have all this information, and sometimes it's time for this column to be just,

here's my notebook dump. everything I got. Right. Under the guise that we're still walking around with notebooks, if we're reporters, which is true of like 2% of reporters at this point. Okay. Maybe we've been out of the game a little bit. I'm not referring to my tactics. Just in general, there aren't a lot of scribes

roaming around with notebooks at this point. Mark, maybe we should talk about your process after the podcast. All right. Well, that's fair. I mean, there's a reason that the assignment slim and narrow. We'll be in Indianapolis next week for the Combine where you get a real close-up look at the Journows in

And it's like being at the zoo. We'll see how many have the notepad's at with the pen. I still think it's prevalent. I'm going, well, I think that now I would do it over under 15% of that 15%, 58% for show. Interesting. Mine's for show. I don't even have paper to write on. It's just like a pacifier.

So, Greg, this will be the notebook dump episode of around the NFL podcast. Building bridges. We'll go around and around. I would say this is so much to unpack here. there's so much to break down that Ricky, why don't you put 60 minutes on the clock? Maybe we won't need it all. Maybe we'll need some of it.

Greg's got to, he's got to meet his plumber, which I found, again, Greg, it's happening almost every week now. Fairly masculine, guys' guy stuff. Hey, got to go check in with the plumber over here to deal with what's going on with the pipes. It would be guys' guy stuff if I was doing the fixing. I'm just meeting the person that my, you know,

landlord is tired. a tool belt? I'm picturing you like a wrench. Where are what you're wearing right now Greg? No, I'm going to do the like the shameful thing of like should I hover near them? Should I sit on the couch one room away with my water? Right. The water offer

comes right off the bat. Yeah, if anything it's very unmasculous. Here's what I picture. You've got to change and again I've not made a statement on this outfit. It's fine to me. White t-shirt with the V-neck. Okay, vicious V. Then you turn up the sleeves, put a

pack of cigarettes in the sleeve. Blue jeans. Is he from Greece? Bingo. Like 1958 James Dean jeans, maybe cuff him at the bottom. Archetypal mail. Maybe just go McAfee style with a tank top. And that way I'm showing off both my tats.

But Greg, also, like on top of the ensemble that I think you nailed, Dan, you need to just go out, be like you're busy, out in the backyard and like smash two bricks together, out of sightline. That's a good point. Another man out there to, he's too busy. And then you have to, when you see the plumber, come to him. Come to him with confidence, come in hard with a handshake and say, hey, let's talk pipes. And that will break down the wall between you.

I've been impressed by you since you've been a homeowner. You've done some masculine pool work. It helps a lot. It helps. Roof work. I also grew up in a coal town, so, you know, working hard for honest days living. That wasn't easy. Here we go.

You know, my mom doesn't like the coal. bit. No, because it's such a nice town. I know that area. That's the problem. It's so beautiful. She's thinking, why is my child

now as an adult reframing his childhood in a completely way? What does Deb say? It's classic suburbia. We grew up in a nice town. I don't like it. I did grow up in a nice town,

but you had to roll up your sleeves in that town. It got hot sometimes. You want a dog? Right. How about that little yellow bird down the canary, down in the coal?

There's your pet. Hopefully it stays alive and you stay alive. Well, that's what's annoying your mom, I think, that those, the subtext in there. We now have 28 minutes left of this hour timer. All right, let's get going because Greg really does need to talk to the plumber. It's on Emeka's radar. She wants him there. Well, she's just not going to be there.

Someone's got to be there. That's the thing. Yeah, you don't want a stranger roaming the house going through the pipes. Put 60 minutes on the clock. We're going to go around the NFL in earnest. Let's go, Ricky. All right. Let me get things going, and I want to frame it because I want to make sure we hit all sorts of things.

You can hit anything you want, by the way, including anything from the Super Bowl. We haven't talked since that game if you care to revisit that game in any capacity. But I will start, like I said, this is the first real day of the off season because the NFL, not in a post-COVID world, but a world where in the NFL, things are kind of coming back to normal. So the franchise free agency begins with legal negotiating period on March 14th, but teams have a two-week window beginning today, Tuesday, ending March 8th to designate the franchise or a transition tag on a player from their roster. And a couple of things interesting here as I dumped the notebook.

The salary cap was at 182.5 million in 2021 because of everything with COVID and there being no fans at the games in 2020. there was just a freeze on everything. Now it's expected to jump to $208 million in 2022. This is coming from our good great reporter. True journal, Judy Patista. $208 million in 2022, an improvement of nearly $26 million per team. There will be spending.

I want to set it up this way, Gregie, because you next week will roll out your free agency 101. That's right. People are accounting on it. People are looking forward to it. And last year, there weren't a lot of play. players that got tagged, just nine players received the franchise tag last year, who is most likely to not get tagged or tag, take it however you want.

But I'm trying to think when you do your free agency 101, who actually makes it to free agency? That's a big name. Like I'll throw out a couple, like Devante Adams. He'll be tagged. You know, I'm going to go down Jesse's, I'm going to go down Judy's list here and you tell me. Jesse Bates, Bengals, Free Safety. Was tagged, but yeah, we'll be. tagged if he has to be. Harold Landry,

J.C. Jackson. Tagged. Mike Williams. Tag. Orlando Brown. Tag. Carlton Davis. Tampa Bay Buccaneers cornerback. Chris Godwin's there, too, so you've got to be a choice. Dalton Shultz, tight-end Cowboys, Marcus Williams, Safety Saints, Mike Jaseki,

tight-end dolphins. Those are some bigger names that can be tagged. Anything jump out to you with those names or any others? Yeah, that the majority of them will be. Actually, now that I think of it, Shultz kind of makes sense because the tight end number wouldn't be that high. Marcus Williams, for instance, not a big name, but was tagged a year ago. That's why that first list that I end up putting out, everyone gets all excited. I've seen a lot of Mike Williams articles, by the way.

And it's like, why would the Chargers not just tag them? They've got a ton of cap number this year. And they specifically have a ton of cap space, and then you can work out the deal later. Some guys I think, the Godwin, I think will be tagged. Some guys that are great and it'll be near the top of list that I don't think will be tagged. Toron Armstead of the Saints, you know, multiple-time all-pro player. Vaughn Miller and OBJ, they both can't be tagged. I don't know if either one will be with the way the Rams are set up.

Chandler Jones, I don't think will be. So there'll be some good names, but I wouldn't get all excited. Alan Robinson, I think your Jets might be in on him. Those are some good names. I need him off the Bears or I'm out. Yeah. Free him, please. I think the Jesse Bates thing is interesting with the Bengals just because if they tag

Jesse Bates, then what's going to happen with C.J. Uzama, because I think that he's a huge part of that offense. And to have him with Joe Burrow there, that's huge for Burrough. So they're, they're kind of in a little bit of a bind there because obviously they're going to have to address a ton of resources to the offensive line. And they don't have a high draft pick. So they're going to have to do that in free agency, too. I misspoke. He was not tagged the year ago. That was a mistake. And we want to get everything right here. So he's an even bigger, no-brainer. No, uh, No one made more money, I feel like, long term in the playoffs than Jesse Bates and Vaughn Miller. Von Miller, three months ago, people were thinking we're on the downside.

And he just looked like it was 2015, and he's going to free agency. So he's going to, he made himself a lot of money. And Jesse Bates had a monster playoff. So any thought that they're not going to give him a great contract. After kind of a down year for him. He had the worst down season, I think, regular season of his career. That's generally the thought that he was struggling. Maybe the contract was on his mind.

Who knows? But either way, he's going to get paid. All right, let's move on. Connie, pivots to you. Anywhere you want to go, anywhere you want. There's nothing cryptic about gratitude. We have to start there. I have to start there.

I assume Dan would start there. I thought so too. I have so many questions about this. And I know you guys talked about the PK detox or whatever it is. Are you dialed in on what he did? On what this? The pancha karma. Poncha karma?

It involves from what my. quick reading of it, which was not quite pleasant, I would say, lubricating your body from both ends and completely hollowing yourself out. Pretty much. Twelve days, I think it is. A lot of vomiting, a lot of laxatives. Some enemas, I think, are in there. Many, many enemas, as I'm bloodletting.

I don't even like saying that word, so I don't even know. It's a lot. Hey, with friends like these, who needs an enemy? You know what I'm saying? Okay, so there, I had a lot of questions before he went on Pat McAfee. and I'm not sure that you said Aaron Rogers's name it. Aaron Rogers, right? Did I not say it?

I don't know if you did. Oh, I just thought that everyone would know when I said nothing cryptic about gratitude. So, broadcaster. Let's rewind a little bit back. And after the Super Bowl, we heard that Rogers and Shailene Woodley broke up and that obviously after NFL honors when he won MVP, he said that he was going to take some time before he made a decision on his future because of Devante Adams being a free agent, all of that situation with the whole team.

But then he puts this whole post on Instagram, and that's why we were talking about the pancha karma thing. What is it? Therapy detox. I don't know. That's why we're talking about pancha karma because he said that he was feeling very just renewed and refreshed and just could see very clearly. And so he posted about gratitude and this big long thing thanking.

Shailene Woodley and his teammates and his family and blah, blah, blah, blah, then he went on Pat McAfee, and he said that he still loves the game. It's given me a lot. I can still play. He also said that he had some meetings that have been different than they were in the past in a positive way with Matt LaFleur and the higher-ups as well. So he didn't make any type of announcement. He didn't give any more clarity to his situation,

but it sounds like maybe he's back with Shailene Woodley? I don't know. It definitely did sound like that. That seems to be one of the more tangible news items where it's put back into a place where we can undo the previous announcement. Thank God. Okay. I'm just saying I'm with her on that point.

A reporter, by the way, said that they could hear someone who sounded exactly like Shiam Woodland laughing. People thought it was the view. During the interview. But I could not care less about that whole situation. But go ahead. that's fair i'm not that that's the journal and you might not find that topic um relevant i mean i think number one him people were making the huge deal out of on that post the photo of randall cobb and devante adams with the space in between where he wasn't there and i think the initial response

was is he like removing himself like a ghost from the packer's sideline it's no they he was they actually did that when he missed the covid game to say you would always be standing here so i do like the one thing is i don't know if there are too many people that have been more annoyed with erin roger over the past calendar year than myself. But this was like watching the whole Pat Macciffy thing, I kind of take him at his word on most of what he was saying. Because I do think it was not football like cryptology there. I think he was genuinely in this place where he had done this like physical cleanse

and he was in a different state of mind. And the Devante Adams thing, he went out of his way to talk about how it was so important. That's the huge obvious. Like if they tag him, I think. And also he went on about Tom Clements, his old coach who's coming back, who he's been aligned with in the past. that if those two things happen, the overall vibe between him and the Packers' leadership

has been really positive. I mean, he even talked about, I think, delaying or making them wait, if I have this right, because he went out to dinner with, like, a flock of Buddhists and said that, like, things are so good that, like, he was able to have the conversation when he came back with coach, GM, and everyone else. That was last, he was talking about last off season, yeah.

Well, that part through him was like, they were pounding beers in the driveway when he got back. Lafleur and another coach were drinking IPA. in Rogers' driveway waiting for him to get back from the Buddhist dinner. This current conversation, though, sounds positive. I just don't know why you'd go. I know you've got Nathaniel Hackett in Denver, but, like, what is better than Green Bay for one more year?

What happened, Greg, to the report last month? I won't draw this out. I won't leave the Packers hanging. He said that today, too. Can we, all right, can we do it then? Right. Because I can't. I can't do this.

He's probably coming back, right? I don't know. Spoiler alert. He's coming. Yeah, but can we just? And he can we? I believe that he was feeling gratitude and he sent it out. But he also is on the record saying he likes to throw things out there

and see if they're getting a reaction. So he also knows A, that he's going to be on McAfee the next day. He had already set that up when he sent it out. So it's all calculated, like, for maximum impact. And he also knows that it's going to lead the A block of ESPN and NFL network. And that's fine.

That he just, it's okay that it's vague. He's having a little fun. But the spoiler alert, he's going to be on the Packers. He doesn't have much leverage anyways. He wants to be on the Packers, I think is pretty clear. He wants to keep playing football is pretty clear. And maybe the leverage in terms of his contract, and they're going to have to figure out a new contract that he does have,

is not saying anything definitively at this moment, even if everyone kind of knows where it's going. He's keeping that card in his pocket because they're about to figure out his money for the next two to three years. He's definitely getting a contract extension if he's staying. because they have to lower his cap it and that'll help keep Devante Adams and it's all connected.

The PK Cleanse recently completed. Step one, three days of ghee therapy. Consume ghee. It's like a butter, I think. Until you evacuate at both ends. Two, one day of therapeutic vomiting. Oh, my God. Three, one day.

Give me some like harps or something under this, Ricky. One day of laxative therapy. and four, three days of herb drops in the nose. This sounds like a very dehydrating experience. Also, there's like a mental component. No, there's more. Number five, many days of enemas. Many days of animas.

Number six, yoga and meditation throughout. So this is what Mark did for the last 12 days. And he looks great. Not at all. Like he was doing this during NFL honors, by the way. He talked about the fact that when he was up there, he was talking to Taylor Bashati and others, that he was in the middle of his.

He was evacuating at both ends? Well, I mean, I think that there, There was a pause on that part of it. I would have watched it. I'm just like, his room must stink. Terrible. I don't think you're the target audience for it. Is it a weird why he breaks up with Chey and Woodley

during the evacuation of both ends for 12 straight days? There's a connection potential. You know, it is interesting, though, because you talk about how everything with him is calculated and he's very intentful with the way that he posts things and he knows that he's going on McAfee. It's like, it's like, Russell Wilson tries to do that stuff

and Aaron Rogers actually delivers on it. He's good at it. Yeah. He's good at it. But since we probably aren't going to return to the Packers, I am really interested just in like what's going to happen these next three weeks. It's pretty complicated. They are $53 million over the cap. And you can figure it out with

restructures, but that's kind of why they have to sign Rogers long term and Adams. That will lower that number. MVS, Valde Scantling is a free agent. Razul Douglas is a free agent. Devandre Campbell is a free agent. I think they make cut guys like Zadaria Smith, Preston Smith, and Mason Crosby, like Gouda Kunst is going to be earning his money. He does have a lot to handle in the next month.

And since you mentioned calculating before we move on, Bob McGinn, we all love Bob McGinn, longtime Packers writer, wrote this week that Aaron Rogers has for years played a careful calculating game. This is on the field. Understanding that the number of interceptions plays a disproportionate nonsensical role in the passer rating formula. Bad interceptions are well bad. Then there are interceptions that are at cost of doing business for unselfish, competitive stats immune quarterbacks battling to make plays and lead comebacks until the bitter end when a quarterback, especially one with a powerful,

usually accurate arm like Rogers, deliberately minimizes chances to deliver a big play for fear of an interception. That's pretty, that's withering criticism right there from Bob McGinn. also that is the back-to-back reigning MVP. Well, Bob McGinn has a notebook and it's on fire, so he's a little different than the people I was critiqued. I think he's getting some of that idea, though, from people that Rogers plays with, too.

Not that, I think it's an unfair criticism, essentially, but I think it was a huge factor in the playoff game, and I think that's where that's coming from. He was very careful to not take chances in that playoff. All right. Greg. All right. Anything you want, buddy.

Where will you go? Okay, let's stay with the quarterbacks. James Palmer had a report. Our guy, James Palmer, we all love him. I like it when he's breaking the news. And he broke the news last week while we were all in our bunkers, that the buccaneers have done a significant amount of homework into acquiring Russell Wilson, which is the type of off-season little nugget drop that I just love.

Because there is something delicious here about. Tampa who does not feel like they should be taking a step back and, you know, looking what they have with Kyle Trask, which has been a little bit of a story, you know, a draft pick they took last year, give up everything for Russell Wilson. And that makes the 2022 buck season and NFL season a lot more exciting. So I just hope there's some real fire there to that smoke. They also, I mean, he was Ian and Tom Palisero on Super Bowl Sunday talked about Russell Wilson, but also Deshawn Watson, that they're doing a ton of work on him as well. So I'm with you.

They seem like hell bent on. Number one, if you're bringing Bruce Ariens back, you're not wheeling out like an unknown rookie or a second-year player or someone else. I think it's like they feel like they still have, they have cap issues. They're going to have to look at a couple of contracts too, but they still are in that Super Bowl window. And so it's like you simply take Russell or Tom Brady and replace him with Russell. I think the problem is, is that during Super Bowl week,

Russell Wilson, for his discontent a year ago, does not seem to be in that play. personally. And, like, he said that his relationship, and you don't have to buy this, it's probably nonsense, but that his relationship with Pete Carroll is as good as it's ever been. And I think the Seahawks have zero interest in parting with Russell Wilson unless it was, you know, we're going to do this and completely restart the organization. They don't just have that, they don't have that vibe to me right now. But maybe the Bucks are that team that just give up, like, three first round draft picks and some players. I mean, the Bucs. They also have players, too, that the Seahawks could use, like, a pass rush. They have, like, a deep roster in a lot of

different spots. They could give up one of their zillion tight ends as well. I think what Seattle actually wants to do is an X factor of the whole off season because I don't think Russell Wilson's public comments mean anything. I put a lot more into Ian Rappaport and other insiders report that

behind the scenes they want to investigate what's out there this off season. And that would be fun. I'm sure they want Aaron Rogers too. And since we're on the subject of the Bucks and Bruce Ariens, I'll dump out of the notebook the story from former NFL lineman Rich Ornberger, who has a deep connection with Tom Brady and others

and put it out there on Twitter that there was heat between Ariens and Tom Brady that perhaps fueled Brady's exit from that picture. And some of the, and this is from Ornberger, some of the heat came from Ariens maybe not working all that hard and taking a red pen. to the game plan that Brady would cook up with offensive coordinator. Byron Lefich. And the two men felt undermined. There was tension.

And then Arients came out and said, the report was, quote, such bull-h-h-it pisses me off and noted that Lefich could corroborate this too. And then PFT called out online AQ Shipley, who is, you know, a former player and a Buck's staff member as the source of this. Without knowing it, I mean, without knowing what it was or not, they basically said, if you connect the dots,

it was probably AQ Shipley, who is, you know, close to Ariens and all this other business that came out with us, but, you know, AQ Shipley could have been on... Wait, Shipley's close to Ariens? We, he's on the Buck's staff. And so it's like they, PFT did not say this is the source. They were trying to publicly figure out where, who might have spoken this to. Well, my guy, Ornberger.

What a great offensive line name that is. Rich Ornberger. backed it up and said he's he stands behind it per multiple impregnable sources. That's not the only thing that he had to back up this week, too, because he's the one who came out with the report that Patrick Mahomes supposedly banned his wife or his fiance, Britney Matthews, and his brother, Jackson, Ornberger from games, but then that turned out to not be true. So Ornberger kind of, it was setting up as a huge week for the. the Ornberger brand with this report on Brady,

who's, by the way, 100% coming back. And I don't want to hear anything else from anyone about this when it happens because I called it even before he retired. This man is not retiring from football. Maybe he's not playing this year, but he'll be on someone's team next year. Absolutely. Does anybody disagree at this point?

Save this clip. I certainly am wavering, but I definitely don't have confidence that you do. If and when he does, the fact that he decided to get out of Dodge after two years of Tampa, you can start to connect some dots. I'm not saying Ornberger's correct, but impregnable, is that what he said? Yeah. I mean, that's pretty good.

To give that is the adjective of your source. Yeah, I mean, the Niners have been floated around as the target or landing spot for Brady as well because it's his hometown childhood team. I mean, we'll see. We shall see. All right, let's take a break and we'll get to Mr. Sessler's notebook next. Hey, this is Matt Jones. Now, I'm Drew Franklin.

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So my notebook resembled yours in many ways. You want some, how about this? Yeah. Snakes to you. You get to do two in a row. So how do you feel now? I feel good about that. Well, now we're operating on equitable territory.

When Aaron Rogers is on Pat McAfee's show, do they put him right off the top of the show, or they wait an hour to build the audience? I don't think that's how this is this. I don't think the dynamic is the same here that the audience is waiting for me to go. I don't think that's the whole point. I just hitting that 30 second button. Where's Mark's notebook?

Where's Mark? Mark, dump it. Got it. More Rosenthal. All right, zero evidence of that. Dump it like you're on the PK cleanse, Mark. I'll give you something that I find totally disingenuous unless this organization has decided to totally veer off a cliff.

Mark is so cleansed right now and I love it. No, I'm so annoyed by this because who's buying this wind coming from Kevin Colbert Steelers' GM saying that, look at, we are perfectly comfortable with the idea of Mason Rudolph today, the season started today in quotes, shoot me in the head, that Mason Rudolph, who it's been 5, 4 and 1 as a starter, we'd be comfortable as our week one guy. We're not necessarily going to sell the house for other explosive options.

And it is the athletics, Mark Koboli, who also has kind of been pounding this drum over and over saying that the Steelers do not intend to be one of these players for Russell Wilson, for Deshaun Watson, for fill in the blank. So I don't, I think, number one, it could be that they're not going after one of those dudes. But the idea, and they said, oh, we're going to add quarterbacks, but not like guys that are real competition. Like, you cannot tell me that Mike Tomlin, who has been talking for months now

about the need for a mobile quarterback, a multiple tool quarterback, is going to sit back and say, we're going to spend a season after we just dealt with a zombie Ben Rathesberger a year ago and hang around with Mason Rudolph and see how that gets us in a division with Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson.

We've been doing this for a lot. Manufactured joke. Thank you. We've been doing this for a long time, right, Mark? I think if you want to kind of peel back a layer here, isn't it kind of the kiss of death for a front office figure at this time of the year to say, like, we feel comfortable with so-and-so? That almost always means that guy is cooked. I just don't buy it at all. But I'm 100% with you.

It keeps bubbling up. So it's like, that's why I brought it up. So Kevin Colbert said, yeah, no plans to sell out to get Ben Rathlisberger's replacement. But at the same time, if you're following the senior bowl and this pre-draft process, which is already cooking. the Steelers are heavily involved right now in scouting the quarterback backs out there. So maybe they're not going to go and try to trade the farm to get some player out there, like Deshaun Watson or whoever you want to throw in there. But they're probably going to draft somebody, right, Connie?

Yeah. Well, I mean, at this point, they kind of have to. Like saying Rudolph at this point would be the number one quarterback, the only option, really, is like, what else? It's obvious. It is true. That's true. That's it.

He doesn't have any other options. And Rudolph, I guess, has the most experience there because really it's like he's the only guy there right now. Right. Like Washington could say that Taylor Hinecke is their quarterback today. The Saints could say Taysam Hill is. The only thing that told me was like they had a press conference. You know, and they had to answer the question.

And I think it gets to their internal thinking that they probably will bring in a Dalton or a Brissette or a Cam or a teddy if he gets cheap enough. What about Jimmy G? Right. There's a million of these guys. When I was doing the free agent list, man, there's a lot of backup quarterbacks available. Trubisky? Tyrod.

Trubisky. You want to throw Marioita in there. There's a lot that are available, like, of that one B level. And those guys are all probably a little bit better than Mason Rudolph. So they're kind of in this spot where it's like, we're not going to go big fish hunting. Maybe we'll look for a rookie. If we get stuck with taking like a. one B option that winds up beating out, Rudolph, then fine, but we're not going to spend crazy.

How about this? First of all, get Dwayne Haskins out of my building. Bye. They already, they're picking up his, you know, option. Well, this is what I do. Then I would sign your boy, Teddy Bridgewater, who's a free agent, and I would imagine at this point, despite your longtime love, it's starting, he's starting to, he's a rich man's Geno Smith. I think at some point, his price tag is going to have to come down. If you want a guy throws 18 touchdowns and seven interceptions and 14 games, yeah, he's your guy. But I'm saying, If you bring in a nice veteran option like Teddy as a bridge guy and then draft somebody in the first round,

then now we're talking. Okay. That's what I think. I just think based on the way they're talking, they might see Mason Rudolph as in a similar tier of Teddy Bridgewater. And Teddy Bridgewater, if I had to guess, I hope they do. We'll still be making more than $10 million a year next year.

I don't know if he's going to make 20 anymore, but I think he will be near the top of this pile of, of free agents, which kind of make an in-between amount of money. Pittsburgh also sits at number 20 in the draft. And so if we're not going to swing for the fences means you're not going to trade up, guys like Kenny Pickett who went to Pitt, who would be a nice story for the Steelers, won't be there. You've got the Panthers at number six.

The Texans who have to find a new quarterback unless they're married to Davis Mills at number three. They'll sit there. They sat and waited for Rathlisberger, which was risky at the time. I remember that was a big conversation and they were rewarded. There aren't six quarterbacks in this draft, though. I could definitely see them trading up from 20 to 10 or so. That's what I'm just saying. I think that this whole, like we're sitting back and we're chill with Mason Rudolph.

Like go ahead and do what the Ravens, Bengals, and Browns want you to do and see how that works out. Maybe Duck Hodges is the future. Duck. There's that. I forgot about him. Mason Rudolph, I mean, if nothing else, he averaged more quarters per start than any quarterback in the league last year. One start, five quarters of action. Pretty good.

Nice looking 16-16 tie against the Lions. That's pretty good. What a timeout. That was, like, my least favorite game pass experience of the year. That was news and notes presented by Upwork, the world's work marketplace. Learn more at Upwork.com. Mark. Now you're free from the corporate shackles for your next item.

Get it marketplace? There you go. All right. I like this one. You know, we're getting deeper into the notebook here. Some of these, you know, they're not all. Dump it, baby. It's, you know, not all gems from the sky.

But this is notebook on notebook. I like this, because it's like, you know, this is the kind of. thing where roto world what's it now called ESPN NBCD we refuse to recognize the new name it's all right well we don't recognize it but because we like Josh Norris and the whole gang there

Josh Norris hasn't worked there in over a year he's at underdog yeah we gotta give him Josh some respect Pat Dardy because we love Roto Pat NBC Sports Edge New World New World Roto World but we call it Roto World yeah so so anyways

so this is the kind of thing that Roto World would be very clear to point out to the reader like This reporter, just like grain of salt, please. But Judd Zolgett, who did for a long time work for the Minneapolis Star Tribune, now works for Score North, reported Monday that the Panthers have called the Vikings about about a possible trade for Kirk Cousin. There you go, Mark. Love it. Then, though.

Great item. Go ahead, buddy. Well, I believe today, though, this happened on the Pat McAfee show that Rappaport said I don't think there's any truth to that Panthers item. But I do wonder, in general, on the Kirk Cousin scenario, like, A, would a team, come calling for a guy that's going to cost $35 million, has one more year on his contract. When Kevin O'Connell's in Minnesota with no other answer, if they gave him away, I don't see that happening. I kind of thought that cousins could be movable at one point, and they maybe under Zimmer would

want to move him. Like, that thing was just getting ugly. But now he feels more cemented in for the next year just because what other option is there? Yeah, Carolina, man, they are just so thirsty for a quarterback right now, too. I mean, they're going to call everybody and anybody. but the fact that they botched the darnal deal so bad, and everybody knew it when they paid him so much up front without any type of evidence on the field.

And they tried to get Matthew Stafford and got rebuffed on that. Right. And there were the reports about the fact that they were trying to get Deshaun Watson at some point, too. And then that didn't work out. They obviously tried out Teddy. That didn't work out either. So I don't know what they're going to do,

but Matt Rule needs a quarterback to save his job next season. Right. Ian made it clear in his mind that the Vikings aren't interested in trading him. I don't know if he doubted that the Panthers actually did call. I'm wondering why that, like, who is benefiting from that news getting out there? I don't know. Maybe Kirk Cousins. I suppose that if he wanted to sign a contract.

Kevin O'Connell, you know, their new head coach worked with him in Washington, so they are very familiar with each other. And he was pretty set during his press conference that Kirk Cousins was his. guy but he you did live a little like well he is on the roster with an answer he said he's anticipating that he would be like that's an interesting word to like they're open-minded on it right somebody comes in blows someone really came for kirk and that contract and they could save that much probably would help the vikis in long term unless you think kirk cousins has a super bowl run in him which i think i don't know i think we're pretty well established on the kirk cousins brand this isn't

matthew stafford like part two here could he be though no i don't know i mean i'm just what do we say about Matthew Stafford two months ago. Well, he was what he was in Detroit and he's that guy still. I think most people would agree that Matthew Stafford is a better option at quarterback than Kirk Cousins. I mean, Kirk Cousins gets lamb-based too much. I get that and you look at the stats and the numbers, but there's something about the experience that's, you know, he's in his little cut-out plexiglass thing all last season.

It's just not, you know, not a bridge building. I don't know if Kirk Cousins takes the Rams down the field in the last five minutes of that Super Bowl. I'm just saying, like, let's say he has. had to do that. I don't know if he had to do it. Really? They melt Tampa in that scenario. I think that's the whole cousins thing. I mean, their careers are similar. Cousins. That's what I mean. If anything, you know, cousins maybe individually, you know, more Pro Bowls, that, that sort of thing. But I think league-wide, you would have always rated Stafford

above Cousins. Who were you replacing him with, though? Who's going to be better? For a first-time coach, exactly. Right. Does Kirk Cousins talk about having those dark spaces he needs to go to? No, he does not. No. The one thing you'd learn more about Matthew Stafford and, was that the Matthew Stafford, the person, the fire inside of him, was a little different. I don't get that with Kirk Cousins on any level. Stick a pin in Matthew Stafford because we're going to come back to him. Greg, you're up next. All right.

Let's go to the Saints. I found it very interesting as I was looking through my notebook here. That Pete Carmichael, who was widely reported to have turned down the Saints' Offensive Coordinator job, was eventually convinced into taking it after Jay Greer. Rudin interviewed for the job. And it continues this theme with the Saints, which I find really interesting, that they're just trying to bring everything back. They're almost bringing back the team and the coaching staff as if Sean Payton's

going to change his mind and they want it all set up for him when he gets back. Our friend Mark Adam at the Saints Twitter podcast, you know, they were reporting on this Carmichael thing that like, look, he wanted to take a step back. and that was widely reported out there. And yet they've basically brought back their entire coaching staff. Even guys like Doug Marone, who were there before, are now there again. And it's almost like everyone just wants to keep their jobs there. And so they don't want to bring in anyone from the outside that could possibly disrupt them keeping their jobs.

And they want to keep this money train essentially on the tracks. And that might include Michael Thomas. And that part makes sense to me. Catherine Terrell noted that almost every statement, out of the Saints is very positive about Mike Thomas, knowing that they're probably not going to be able to trade him or anything like that, and that they fully expect him to be back, that their best chance to have a legitimate team this year is with Michael Thomas. And I just don't know if that's, like, the best way to run an organization and that everyone is

just trying to stay the exact same and retain their jobs. Right. So isn't this a time where they should be changing a little bit? I don't know. So is that what they end up doing with the quarterback? Do they bring back James as well? That's sort of the buzz too. The ESPN said that many of the people think that James is coming back.

I mean, Carmichael, maybe something was going on in Carmichael's life where he didn't want this role or something. It was strange because Greg, we talked about it before the Super Bowl. Like, well, he's been there since, like, the Nixon administration. And he's seen like the obvious guy for the O.C. The one year that he played that role, he didn't, I mean, when, exclusively when Peyton wasn't there, they were successful. So it's like he seemed like the perfect person for it. But then you're interviewing Jay Gruden and then naming him, the guy who didn't really want the job. The job, it's, it's all.

Is this a snasher what's going on? I mean, if the Bucks go back to James Winston, that was a number one overall draft pick that did not work out across five years. Well, this is the Saints. I don't believe that. Yeah. That would be wild.

All right, who's up? I think you are. I think I'm up. Okay. I'm up. What you got left? Exciting. Brian Flores got a job.

How about that? Yep. How about that? Now, I think the ultimate test in this Flores situation, who, as we all know, has an active lawsuit against the NFL three teams, citing racial discrimination and faulty practices. And he gets a job as a senior defensive assistant with the Steelers. And that's cool.

And he's going to be working under Mike Tomlin, another black coach. That's cool. And the question to me, though, here, Connie, is does he actually get a head coaching job? So this is good. This is, I guess you could call progress because Colin Kaepernick never even got back into the league as a back end. I'm wondering, and time will tell on this, if Flores gets another job as a head coach. But I think it was a nice olive branch, not necessarily from the NFL, but from the league

and from another perspective that he is now back in football and won't be out of football entirely after that lawsuit was filed. Right, because I'm sure he was thinking that he might not have another shot to get another job at all in any capacity in the NFL. It's not surprising one bit that he landed in Pittsburgh with Mike Tomlin. I still have a lot of doubts, though, that he's going to land a head coaching gig in the NFL going forward. I think that it's a great fit there in Pittsburgh with him and Tomlin and Terrell Austin as well. I think they'll be able to do really fun things with that defense. But going forward, I think that Brian Flores has.

a tough road to get through to become a head coach. This was a huge step, though. And it's like, I think you've got to get it's, you know, through the machinations of staff changes, if he gets back in Pittsburgh to a coordinator level at some point. Because I don't think anyone, it's like we all kind of say, we all get that he's a really good coach. I mean, what he did with Miami was extremely impressive.

There's all this other stuff that was going on. It's like, I see it a little differently than some of the Kaepernick stuff because I don't think it's like galvanizing, like a sector of the public that, is conflating it with political stuff at the same time. This is very clearly a legitimate complaint by Brian Flores that I think

the difference, I would like to see. There are more coaches that feel the way that he feels, but they're not putting their name on the line. He's sort of hanging out there by himself, and the Steelers of all organizations said, you've got a place with us. The Rooney rule is not working, but the Rooney's like in action did something here

to change that. Right. And if this lawsuit didn't happen and you had told me before the off season, this is Flores' role for 2022. It actually wouldn't have been that surprising. You know, this is what happened sometimes. To not get one of the nine open jobs? It wouldn't have been shocking, no.

I mean, maybe it's like 50-50. He would have gotten one. He wouldn't. Sometimes they don't get back right away. Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl, didn't get right. And these are the types of jobs that they often take.

The difference is this lawsuit's ongoing. And so that's the bigger story. His attorney said that they are waiting for the NFL to essentially ask them for the evidence that he has against Dolphins owner Stephen Ross in terms of intentionally trying to lose games and the accusations that they put in the lawsuit that he was offered $100,000 to do that. And, you know, Roger Goodell pointedly at that press conference at the Super Bowl said that, look, owners can vote other owners out. And to me, that is one thing I'm going to be tracking this season because he still has a chance, Brian Flores, to be the first coach to ever fire an owner, essentially. I mean, he got fired by Stephen Ross,

and that's part of the lawsuit going back. And, like, that's not ending anytime soon. That would be the ultimate vengeance. Oh, big time. The vengeance scale would be off the charge. It's a 12 out of 10. Connie, you're up. Okay.

let me page through the notebook here dump it yep all right here we go it's very dense Carson wince what's the deal so the coltsby writer one of them uh Zach Kiefer who's awesome you guys should follow him he said that he thinks wince is obviously going to get traded or straight cut before or during free agency he said that in light of some conversations over the last six or seven days it's my full expectation that he's moved by the end of this free agency period, whether that's a cut or a trade remains to be seen. I think this is a when situation, not an if situation.

I think the decision has been made. So yesterday, which was Monday, since we're recording on Tuesday. Nailed it. Uh-huh. Marked the one-year anniversary of the trade that the Eagles made with the cults for Carson Wentz. And I get the sense that ownership is not thrilled with the Wendt. experience and that this whole reunion between him and Frank Reich just did not go as they had planned. We know that Jim Ursay tweeted back on January 24th. You can see clear as day in the final

eight NFL team playoffs. You need a quarterback and offense who can score 30 or more in regulation and a defense that can hold an opponent under 30, exclamation point. So there was the epic collapse. Slammers galore. To the, uh, to close out the season. He's like, I'm going to throw in this defense line to really throw them off the second. I know, right? But the way that they finished out the year was a massive disappointment. They started the season with Carson Wentz hurt. And just this is a very quarterback friendly offense with the offensive line that they have

and Jonathan Taylor there. So you would think that he was set up to really succeed. But I don't even know who the upgrade would be. That is an excellent tease by the tiny box. for Thursday's podcast. We will have Zach Kiefer himself. What? No way.

I love Zach. He's awesome. Kiefer will be on to discuss Carson Wentz in the Colts quarterback conundrum because it's fascinating. I was thinking about this, guys. Good to have different branding for the program. What if we kind of go through the shows the next six weeks or so? We call it the flashpoint figures of the NFL.

And maybe flashpoint figures. Colin Carson Wentz. We hit him and their situation this week. Maybe hit something different every week. I told you Dan was a showman and like he came up with that on the fly while we were doing the show. Flash point figures. What do you think? Maybe that we could workshop the name.

Flash point figure. This guy. He's an idea guy. I'm an ideas man. But anyway, let's stick a pin in that conversation. Okay. But it's very good that you brought that up. Yes.

That's in the notebook. All right. Now, I'm up next. We need to get one of the great women connected to the around the NFL podcast. and we've been blessed in that department over the years. First, live appearance on the show. She is the great Alexandra Fragola. Fragola, better known as Fragues.

She works, she's a key figure on the network side and also one of the great voice artists of our generation. What's up, Friggs? Wow, that was quite the intro. Now, I went up to Frags in the newsroom, and I said, you are the voice famously of La Raville Magnifico, which, if you're not aware of what that is, that's when someone says or does something

that without even realizing it, that person is telling you so much about them. And frags, this one that I'm about to share with the group is such an on-point example that we needed to get you in here live to do it. And appreciate it. It came up to you in the newsroom. You didn't come up to me.

You ran into my chair and, like, slipped underneath me. Yeah. It is the off season, though. That's a good sign. She would be free to come here. Yeah, very, very busy schedule. Just to make it clear to the audience, I came and I sat in Frags' chair

while her back was turning, and then she turned around and I was there. That's a real he said, she said, because her description was markedly different than what you is the correct one. I'm not used to being live. Normally I get to rehearse these things, you know? That's good, though, but, you know,

we talked about what the cadence would be. So let's try it. Ricky, since we're doing live, break out the harp. And you just lay, give us one. And I'm going to call for it a couple times, maybe. But here's the first one. Okay. Wait for the harp.

La Raville Magnifico. Oh, yes, yes. La Raville Magnifico. Frat Stafford at the Los Angeles Rams victory parade. Oh. He's on stage. The photographer. And listen, we can get into the photographer's backstory later if you want.

Kelly Smiley? Kelly Smiley. She is on the stage. She takes a false step backward. She falls off the stage. It turns out that she fractured her spine, broke her two cameras. Matt Stafford, who is feeling no pain, was right in front of the woman as she stepped back and fell. He does a 180 turn, walks away, arms up like, I'm not dealing with this right now.

Kelly Stafford rolls up real quick. How is this woman that just fell off the stage? I think that is a big time. that I would feel Magnifico What do you think Frat Stafford with a walkaway In a big spot mark

The video was I mean the video was What the video was It just did not look good It's like he He saw what happened I mean he didn't Probably comprehend the end result

But he saw the woman Fall off the stage And he basically Turn and bolted It just it was it It went viral for that reason I would say You know

In the end result They are paying For all her medical bills And her cameras And her cameras and so it's like I know I understand I understand.

You don't know that. That's an... It played a role. Trust me. Why are you not supposed... Why are you not allowed and why shouldn't you ever drive a car under the influence of alcohol? Because your decision making is impaired. So that is the only thing I have to say.

You give them a pass? No. That's okay. I'm not. Actually, here's where I totally disagree is that in that... That thing happened. It was a very regrettable moment. It's good that she was kind of representing the two of them.

She got this effort covered. And that she covered. I think if this hadn't become a story, if there was no video of it, that they would have found out exactly what would have happened and they would have taken care of it quietly. And the Rams and Stafford would have paid for all the medical advances because that's what good people do. And that would have been the story.

So to me, that's like, you don't need to pile on. I'm sure he feels bad. Hey, I'm not piling on. It's to me, that would have happened. That would have happened whether there's a video or not, is my point. law reveal It's in that zone of the law reveal I mean it's just

I think it brought our minds initially I like Greg's nice tie up on it that he was over the legal limit for sure and loose and you're not making the same decisions Greg what you're saying obviously makes sense

but ultimately the final decider has to be Fraggs herself coming in with her own analysis on the Frat Stafford walk away Oh I was not told I had to give it No uh oh um listen we've all we've all been feeling the way Matt Stafford felt

and I probably would have reacted the same exact way. It was very shocking and I don't totally understand why it's his fault that someone fell off the stage. It's not his fault. Not his fault. Of course it's not his fault. Of course it's not his fault. It's just a human reaction. Ultimately it is his fault though that he's even if you're

putting the drink on it it's like that's still your fault. That's something that you wake up the next morning. And you see the video of that if you're Matt Stafford and you're like oh my God. Because to be clear I'm not giving him a pass at all. I know no matter how intoxicated I was, I would be running off the stage to check.

Or you just waved security over and point. That's it. Then you can do the walkway. I got arrested in high school because I was like helping the girl whose house it was, who threw the party. She was throwing up and I was like holding her hair back and got arrested because I was helping her. Well, that doesn't seem, I got arrested from male fraud in high school, and I also felt innocent of it.

So was it enjoyable to argue with Greg and the rest of us, Fragg? Oh, it was fantastic. Well, thank you. Thank you for having me, Dan. You're welcome to come sit at my desk anytime. Wait, can I get to break me off a piece of that brisket? Oh, yeah. Jake Brisket.

Break me off a piece of that Jake Brisket. Is it Jake Brisket? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just hand the whole show over to you at this point. What else is Rex? He's going to be a favorite. He's going to be a free agent, so we could definitely have some Jake Brisket content. Mark, you're so crazy.

Oh, yeah, give us one of those. What was it? Mark, you're so crazy. Mark, you're so crazy. I'm good. What a talent. I'm out of here. Frags?

Yeah. Thank you all. Mark's going to be thinking about that moment. Love you, Frags. I guess. Roughly for a legend. What a surprise. She's going to be a little upset with me that I put her on the spot there.

I can tell. But we've been working together for a long time, all of us, so. So do you get a pass? I hope so. I hope I do. All right. Let's move on. Oh, let's, I don't want to double dip here, but I've been told for production reasons, we need to hit this one next.

so I'm going to go twice here. Oh, apologies. This situation, check this out. I know you guys probably saw this, but I want to touch on it. A huge flock of birds that suddenly plunged to the ground in Mexico. It happened earlier this month. We want to warn you, the video you're about to see is graphic. The video is chilling, too.

It shows the yellow-headed blackbird suddenly fall from the sky. What? Oh, geez. Many of them died. Others did fly away, and the reason behind their rapid plunge remains unclear. But some experts say that blackbirds may have been trying to escape a predatory bird swooping in from above. Ooh, wow. All right.

Well, apparently you had not seen that, Connie. No. I'm like the other person at eye. I had never heard of this. Really? Okay. Well, so. That's terrifying.

Yeah, that happened in Mexico. And just we don't need to, you know, dive deep here. But I have a, I'll put a sandwich on it, perhaps, that this is the sign of the next huge thing for humanity that we're dealing with. that in like an M. Night Shyamalan type of way, there's going to be other unexplained things that are going to start happening over the next six months and it's going to become one of the major talking points. I won't take you because I totally agree with you.

It's like, hey, we've treated the earth like utter crap and garbage endlessly since we've arrived and suddenly nature is starting to rebel. Right, the animals, they're going to be getting some revenge. They're coming for us. Well, the birds, I mean, it was a death die. for probably hundreds of them. So I don't know what revenge they're getting there?

They got a bit of a raw deal. I mean, some of them see. I'm going to have to go down this rabbit hole. I need to find out more. Like, I'm going to need, like, bird experts on this case because I've become, I've been starting to watch birds. Uh-oh. I'm 80 years old.

Uh-oh. And down on the ranch, my summers now include a cup of tea. Oh, no. Bird watching. She's watching birds already. It fits like a glow. So that is jarring. All right.

Anyway, so if you guys want to take me up on that. Wait, that's a, what is this? This is a sandwich? It's a sign of some type of global reckoning, humanity reckoning. Okay. I don't like that at all. But I'm going to leave it open-ended for the next two years.

Well, I'll take you. Because, again, I want to root for, you know, that not happening. But I think you could put sandwiches separately on Connie becoming an ornithologist. Yeah. Maybe it was, maybe the birds were experiencing Havana. syndrome. I don't know if you guys are dialed in on this, but high-level national security officers have been stricken with unexplained illnesses on the White House grounds, also internationally, a.k.a. Havana syndrome. It's something, Mark, that you should dial in on it.

I will. I mean, stuff is melting. I don't know why we just, we continue just to drive around and, like, go to subway and eat all the food we want. Have a nice time. Interesting. He always brings it back to food. No, just like, well, no, you don't think that the way that we, produce food in general is quite disturbing to the earth and too many people I would say it could be better no I think Subway which is an NFL sponsor Great here we go Greg with that

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of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. All right, we're back. Where are we at? How much time do we have left, Ricky? We are at 47 minutes. All right. So it's time to truly now empty out the notebook. So let's speed things up a little bit and try to get around the horn a couple times each. Gregi. All right. I'll do a quick one. Since we're talking Rams in that parade in Stafford recently, I went. I went with my kids. I took them out of, you know, they didn't go to school until like

afternoon. They were quite tardy that day. I figured this doesn't happen too often. Ellis got to be at the game and that was like amazing. She got actually teary-eyed when the Rams won. So she's like really attached. And and the reason I bring it up here more is like it was a delightful experience. And I saw after the fact LA was taking a lot of grief of like shots of empty streets or something. It's like I think first of all those were taken before the parade. I don't know. That water road. It's not. It's I was a. I was a. reporter boots on the ground. I was in a packed train in public transportation going down full of a pretty young but diverse group of Rams fan. And where we were, it was like totally packed. Now,

granted, is it going to be packed as much as almost any other NFL city? No. And it's obvious why the reasons for that word. But I don't know. It's like, why at this point in human history do we have to reign on other people having a good time? If it makes them happy. And all I'm saying is it was packed to the point where my kids were sort of freaked out and frightened by how packed it was. You know, that was almost like an issue. There was too many people there for... Back to Ram's house.

For us. But it was really nice little afternoon. I worry what your kids would be like if you took them down the canyon of heroes if the Knicks won a... Right. Well, it's a lot. It's a lot. There's people behind you yelling and pushing up on you, you know, when you're trying

to get a look, Cooper Cups going by and whatnot. That's cool. Good experience. Parade. I went to one victory parade, the 96 Yankees. And I was like, all right, I did this. Right. I don't really, I don't quite get the appeal, but it's like, okay.

It's for kids, I think. I love a parade. Right. Like, all they wanted was the confetti to be, the confetti cannons, and those were happening, and that's all they needed. Oh, in Philadelphia, they put Criscoe on the poles. Yeah. The grease poles.

That was one of the better things. I liked that maneuver. That was. Back off. And they still climbed. Oh, yeah. Still got up those poles. There's a, basically, it's like a competition every year in the Italian market where people have

to climb a grease pole. Yet the Italian meets a cheese in the pole over here. Yeah. Did you see the Hollywood sign? How they put Ram's house over. That didn't work right as well. That does not work for me on any level. Just stay away.

Well, it would have worked if it looked good, but it was the city. The city put it up, and it looked like a bunch of amateurs in a windstorm putting it up. That is. This is a city filled with, like, people that work on movie sets, in prop departments. Right. How about like six technically, you know, adequate set designers to do something along that. That gets the old. Bart Sipson, at least you tried

birthday cake gift. The execution was off. All right, Mark, you're up. I would look at the Giants for one minute because, you know, while we were all off on Super Bowl week, GM, Joe Shane, their new GM, you know, they have Brian Dayball there and it's like, you want to hit the ground running and surround Daniel Jones with a ton of talent,

but they have Matt, Dave Gettelman left them in cap hell, and there are whispers now or just, you know, trying to figure out what they do to get out. They're 12 million over. Is it possible you've trade Seekwan Barclay at this point, who could save you 7.2. I don't know who's trading for him, but there could be someone out there. But James Bradbury is probably a cap hit. He's going to be, he's earns 21.9 million.

Blake Martinez has a $14 million cap hit. That seems insane to me. Kenny Galladay, he makes $21 million over the next three years. I just wonder if the Giants, even though you want to set dayball up as well as you can, is there like a roster gutting of some sort coming here? Because I think, A, they totally envision a different team than Gettleman left behind. which was a failed team, and it might be a tough year or two for Daibald. It's not just you're hitting the ground with Josh Allen in year three. Well, I keep thinking about Mitch Trubisky. I can't believe this is the second time I'm bringing him up in the show.

I keep thinking about whether or not he's going to end up with Brian Daibald and the Giants as like a competition piece for Daniel Jones because he only signed that one-year deal in Buffalo and he came out and said that I'm in a confident space right now. He's ready to be a starting quarterback again. That scares me. There are people in the league who know things who think Mitch Trubisky could still be a functional NFL player if he gets into the right setup and has an opportunity. Yeah. That would be the setup, Dable, who's been with them.

I look at their roster and I don't think they're like crazy far away. They're not the Texans. I think Daniel Jones will have a better spot if it's a good coaching stuff. I don't see that many like logical cut candidates. Like Blake Martinez, you get rid of Blake Martinez if you wanted. you could get rid of Kyle Rudolph, certainly $7.5 million. Otherwise, I kind of like they have enough people around him. They just need to get enough.

I also think I know he didn't look great last year, but that team was such garbage. Sequin Barclay, I think, could be somebody who has a bounceback. Right, why I can't imagine it would be worth getting rid of, like, whatever you would get back for Saquan Barclay couldn't be worth it. I mean, what would it be? Just a new look version of the team because Seekwan Barclay is also. So let's be honest, entirely frustrating as a player for the past couple.

He's due $7 million, just a lot for a running back, but it's not that much. Sterling Shepard maybe is the guy that could go. They also have to create Caprums. So you can cut Kyle Rudolph. I agree. He's gone. He is worth more than Sequin Barclay right now. And so Sterling Shepard.

Martinez is worth double. So that's a new coaching staff. Sterling Shepard, we've always liked him, but he can't stay healthy. That feels like a guy to move on from. Barkley, it's like, listen, if you're going to stay the course with Daniel, Jones here and give him one more chance because he was in a bad setup, I think you should do the same with Barclay and see what happened. They mentioned him specifically, too, Dave, that they wanted to see Jones and Barclay,

and those were the two that they mentioned with the right support, the coaching staff, at least. It's such an obvious new coach comment, but I just, I don't know. I just, I don't have to be all buy-in that Daniel Jones and Saquan Barclay are going to combine to play more than 20 games next season. We're not saying that necessarily. Gregie. I thought it was interesting how the NFL hand.

two more, you know, regrettable stories about how they mistreat women over the last week. It's crazy that the Washington football team is under investigation again, not just by Congress, which was a thing that happened right after the season, but by the NFL, with an independent investigation, Mary Jo Wright, White, who the last time she was involved in an investigation, there was a change in ownership in Carolina. And so this Washington story, which if you weren't, tracking it, kind of popped back up because there was new allegations that were part of that congressional hearing. And the NFL is taking a different tact than they did last time around

when they weren't the ones in charge of the investigation. Washington was. And that there was no public release of the report that came out of that. This time they say there will be. So that is a difference. And as someone who just watches the ownership situations, I find that interesting that they're taking a different tact here. And they're definitely taking a different tech than they are with the cowboys who were accused by former cheerleaders, their head PR guy, who's one of the most powerful and well-known PR guys in the history of the NFL, I would say, Rich Thalrimple over the last 26 years of taping cheerleaders with his cell phone while they were changing.

The crazy part is it was six years ago and that there was a payment. to these women ultimately and the NFL says they are not going to look into it at all. But it is a crazy story if you read the entire one by Don Van Nata because it goes to the very top of covering up some pretty brutal accusations and there is money that's already changed hands here, including violating Jerry Jones's own daughter, who's a vice president of the organization. It is some dark stuff. So if you want to feel cynical about the world,

the fact that this was buried for six years, and then Dalrymple retires three weeks ago, and it just spoke so loudly to me that they didn't recognize that at all. The Cowboys didn't make a statement. They didn't say a word. This is, if you've ever seen Jerry Jones on camera, Rich Dalrymple is right next to him. If you've ever been to a Cowboys practice, he's right next to him,

when he left after 26 years. Does he clean the glasses? Is that him? No. He is the cleaner, though. He is the Michael Clayton. of that team, and they didn't say a word when he left. They said that has nothing to do with this incident that happened six years ago

and millions of dollars change hands. And I don't know, it's disappointing. It's some, like, dark NFL stuff. But the NFL handled those two stories differently. That shows you how little's changed, sorry. But, like, it is notable that ownership is under fire as an overall group right now. There's no question about that. It takes 24 of 31 owners to vote someone out.

And you wonder with Daniel Snyder if we could be getting closer and closer. Don't hold your breath. I don't want to be cynical about it, but we'll see. Yeah. That's a depressing state of affairs. Not to change the tone too much, but it is 222 on 222.22 right now. Whoa. Do we make a wish?

What do we do? Make a wish, everybody. I have been looking into a lot of astrology stuff with this. I was in the middle of making my wish. As was I. We were bowing our heads in silence to make a wish. All right, go ahead. Except for Greg.

Greg is like, I'm not. No, my eyes were close. There's a lot percolating about this day that they say to make sure your house is clean because you don't, because of all the cosmic, which I don't necessarily believe in all that. Like your proverbial house or you're not. No, you're like physical house. Have a space. Have your space be clean today.

They say don't start any major arguments today because it's a mirror because it's two, two, two, two, two, two. That if you start like an argument, it could come back to you this following year. And something about the mirrors, which I don't really know anything about it. or believe, but some stuff people are saying is just like be, just kind of be on your good behavior today. Don't start any arguments or make any major life decisions today. He's in Q's. Stay on. Okay. But positivity

is going to be good because you want it to reflect back. I'm going to drive straight home and go to bed. Right. I'm definitely not going to like talk back to this plumber. Whatever you say goes. Yeah. Hey, what's up? Let's talk pipes over here. Two pipe talk. On the subject of the Washington football team. Some

teams just cannot get things right. I was thinking about this, Mark, with your Browns. Remember the Browns used to be that team for like seven straight years when we did this show? 27 straight years, but yes. Right, but in the era of the show, it was like whenever a team did something like that was stupid or messed up, it was like, oh, yeah, the Browns doing the Brown thing. That's not really the Browns anymore. They might have been disappointing this year, but they're not the subject of these stories anymore.

Washington football team puts out their new team crest and they mislabel at the bottom. They have the year as their five titles since 1937 through 91, but they actually put, the year the title was won, not the season it was won in. So even though Mark Rippin led the Washington team to the 1991 Super Bowl, they had 1992 on the crest, we can't make these mistakes, folks. You want to clean a house? Clean your house. How does that get past the obvious focus groups?

That also, by the way, is one of the, talk about journals and notebooks. Right. The thing that has always annoyed me about football is that you have to talk about Team X won the Super Bowl in so-and-so year, but it's not the. year you're thinking. Try to explain that to kids or to other people that don't follow football, it doesn't make any. I was annoyed by it as a kid, though.

You know what's even worse, though? And I'll say this. I know what you're saying, and it could be frustrating. The NBA season, they have no choice, really. They go, let's say, I don't know, who's the Sixers, your team. Let's say the Sixers win the championship in June. They are the 2021-22 NBA champions. That's too much.

That's a mouthful. So just give me the year where the season began and the bulk of it took place. Anyway, you can't get this wrong. They got it wrong on the crest and got killed by their fan base. So they officially announced the correction to their logo and re-did, alter the logo. That's the Washington. I can't believe nobody caught that before it went out. Nobody in the building.

I mean, did you see the Sean Taylor retirement jersey day? The worst thing about this, though, I feel like, is in the correction. And yes, they listened to their fans and changed it. They said, we've now corrected it and put all the years in which, all the scenes in which we won the Super Bowl. Super Bowl. It didn't start until. Oh, my God.

It was like pre-super Bowl. Come on, just clean it up. What are we doing here? Get it together. They've won three Super Bowls, 82, 87-91. They won an NFL championship, 37-42. Why are we serving as a copy editor for you? Speaking of a copy editor, I don't need the one thing, the Aaron Rogers' Instagram post,

I don't need him signing off telling me to read a book. I don't need it. That's where he goes too far. Mr. Intellectual. Yeah, it's a gratitude. Speaking of the NBA, I did get Blood in the Garden, the new Nick's 90s book. I can't wait to read.

Oh, cool. I talked to Johnny about that. Maybe he'll have me on the SI Weekly podcast. Ooh, that would be great. You know what? You should, uh, you guys should listen to that. It's a great podcast. Good plug.

Yeah. Make sure you tell. It was like natural. It was very good. It was organic. You also didn't force it on it. You said you should do. They consider it.

Yeah. It's an option that's out there. It's a nice way to say that. Although I'm the one that actually surfaced it. So John hears this. so he'll be like, well, Dan had to bring it up before you plugged it. No, no, Dan gets more credit. I hope so.

Dan, it's in this 222 thing. You're already starting issues and arguments. It's going to come right back at you. That's true. I listened to the post-super Bowl one. It was good with Greg Bishop talking about that. There was a lot going on. It was good.

The whole Cabo story I hadn't heard. Excellent. Yes, Dan. You're up. Oh, okay, great. All right, let's speed it up. Here we go. All right.

Bar-Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob. Jarvis Landry would like to stay with the Browns, but he can help win a championship. elsewhere if need be so we also found out that he played through a significant injury last season it was a career worst year for him that would explain a lot he sprained his knee back in week two but he's never missed a game before last season so i feel like there were some narratives going around that like oh he's just like kind of hurt things are lingering that's not the case at all but also take into account that he didn't do any media avails through the team after odel was

released and he just watched his really good friend, Odell, win a championship. He won't. So I'm just throwing that out there. Yeah, I'd say it's like 35% chance he stays. And that's if the, you know, he doesn't want to do this is like taking a pay cut. Well, that's what that report. I love when they have these things, because he alluded to it enough that essentially they asked them to take a pay cut.

I mean, you can read between the lines. They started that conversation and then he sort of was. Okay, but like that wide receiver room, if you take Jarvis out of there, It's a mess. Donovan People's Jones, Anthony Schwartz, and Rashad Higgins, who's set to be an unrestricted free agent. He's due $14 million base salary. His cap number is $16 million. It is a lot for Jarvis Landry.

So I'm not surprised they are trying to figure it out in terms of a restructure. I can see it now. I also wouldn't, if I was Jarvis Landry, I wouldn't mind being a free agent. Next Thursdays around the NFL podcast, flashpoint figures going Jarvis Landry. Nailed it. That's it. Or maybe Baker. I was going to say Baker.

Yeah, that's big enough. Should have Steve Smith on and talk about Baker. We'll be in Indianapolis next Thursday. I don't know. Will the Flash Point series be able to carry on in a remote setting? That's up for debate. We're on the Flash. We'd be under the Flashpoint Focus at that point.

Can we pull that off? Flashpoint Focus. That's better than figures. Let me write that down. Greg, what do you think about this, Seguidea? A little mom on it. You're so perceptible. A little quiet, Greg.

It's good. It's good. I think figures. There was something about figures I didn't like, so he's already thinking out. Focus is good. FF. All right. Up next, this XFL thing is interesting to me. The NFL and the XFL have reached a partnership agreement that will focus on creating innovation programs

and protecting the health of players, the XFL announced Monday. I thought it was a little, even though I love it, because I do think he is a treasure. When the Rock came out before the Super Bowl started last Sunday and did the hype speech and the crowd went bonkers. And, you know, he's got charisma for days. But he's also one of the owners of the XFL now after Vince McMahon declared bankruptcy or whatever happened with it. He sold it to a group that included the Rock. He's like, why would the NFL do this with a hypothetical guy that's competition?

No, this is a joint partnership on some level. They're not going to share players, but they're going to do things that the NFL used to be able to do with the NFL Europe League, which was test out various things right from playing surface to different rule tweaks to like they're saying with safety elements to try to make the game safer for the players and this is going to serve as a way to help the NFL product as well as give the XFL some pop I imagine I don't know what the television deal is but maybe these games end up on NFL network this spring I don't know we'll see I like the whole idea of trying out new rules there we could use some new Greg keep it roll the Rams have a new

offensive coordinator. That's just like a small item in the notebook, but considering that that guarantees that Liam Cohen will be a head coach in the NFL at some point. We should get to know Liam Cohen's name. He was the Kentucky offensive coordinator, but he was with the Rams before

as a assistant. So McVeigh knows him well. And there were reports before the off season even started that McVe wanted to bring him back to run the offense. So I don't know much about Liam Cohen, although Kentucky, they scored a lot of points.

Pretty good. I do remember the Spice Rack was in love with the Kentucky college football program this year. And I think made some good money off. The Spice Rack isn't in love with the around the NFL podcast because he sent a vaguely threatening text to us right when the Bengals won the conference championship that he better be on the show. Oh. And it went up to the Super Bowl. And it didn't happen. So that is a bit of a something to watch.

Like watch your back, like literally. I'll monitor that heavily. Mark, you're up. Pepper Mill. I thought it was interesting that the combine. Time's running out, by the way. Is coronavirus just essentially the NFL's just said coronavirus doesn't exist anymore? We understand that like there was this idea that, you know, the combine players were going to have to be bubbled.

The players basically started saying, uh-uh, we might threaten to sit out workouts. We're not going to do everything you want us to do. You're not paying us to go there, by the way. I mean, eventually we'll get paid. But then they quickly turned around and said, we're unbubbling you. Right. We're fine. Basically it was like the NFL went to all the prospects and everybody connected to the event.

And hey guys, hey guys, there's still the coronavirus. We've got to make sure we bubble up, make safe. And then it was like, no, we will literally not go to your combine. All right, all right, you're right. There's no more coronavirus. No problem. According to Phil Wesleyan, Indianapolis has been on that train for months. So, you know, if the city at large is acting a certain way, I think we're seeing that.

Greg, back to you, baby. I don't know if I have any other good ones. I was interested to see that Danielle Hunter, who's a really good player, might not be back with the Vikings. It's very surprising to me. they're changing defensive scheme. So that's a notable cut to possibly watch for because he would be in my top five of the free agents if he gets out there.

Yeah, Deshaun Watson, by the way, still on the Texans, the legal proceedings. Those are moving forward. But again, at a pace that's not necessarily lined up with the NFL and we're now heading into a new league year and there's a chance here that Deshaun Watson would not play again this year and then it would be $35 million that the Texans are old guy who hasn't played in over a year in two years.

A lot of stuff going on right now with this. And there was a report from the athletic, Jeff Howe. The Texans don't plan to less. And they're asking price for Watson, which has been five to seven assets, including three first round picks. So keep your eye on the story, obviously. I believe he's going to start being a part of these depositions where he's going to have to speak on the conduct that led to the allegations of sexual assault. yeah so that is all happening at a time when the texans are desperate you would imagine now to get out from under watson and recoup assets in exchange for him but that can't happen until the legal side's resolved that continues to be a story and as we approach march 2022 Connie we're running out of time this is it how much time we have rickie blah blah blah a lot less than you think so go ahead okay uh dk mackaf is training for the 2024 Olympics he's currently in a boot though uh but

Next off season, it's on. What event? Track. So he wants to be a sprinter in the Olympics. And who doesn't want to be in the Olympics after watching the Olympics? Like, I'm going to go be shooting and skiing in the biathlon. Who knows? Zero.

There we go. That's how you close. The old ski and shoot. Skilled. The old ski and shoot close out with Colleen Wolf, who's said it all. Connie, what do you got going on? You're going to be on the around the NFL broadcast on Friday. I'm excited.

This is great because I've never done it in studio with you guys, the broadcast. How exciting you'll be right here in the Chris Wesleying podcast studio. Greg, you will be out of town. We will wear a ribbon, a black ribbon on our lapel. Leave me your jacket. Yeah, you can wear Colleen can wear my members-only jacket. I will be here for Thursday's podcast. We do have another one of those.

Yes, absolutely. Of course, because the flashback focus, is that what are we said? No. Flash point. No, we kill the figures. Yeah, we kill the figures. out of there. Flash point focus, colon.

Carson Wentz coming up this. I like the idea, but it sounds like one of those, you know how they've kind of run out of names for football articles? Sure. And it just sounds like one of those names? Sort of, yeah. Flashpoint. Well, that's what happened when sports writing dies.

Like, there aren't a lot of new ideas. Can we, Greg, can we hang the members-only jacket in the studio for the Friday television show? Yeah, I think that would be a funny bit. We don't, anyone listening now will get the joke in other. Otherwise, don't refer to it at all. It must be vaguely, like, off-centered. Right. Otherwise, don't mention it at all.

This is one of those shows that we would pitch to Jason Climann and Jason Brooksby, the production team behind the TV show. And they're like, uh, yeah. Yeah, let's circle back on that next week. Come back to that. We'll come back to that. Oh, okay. You hate our ideas.

We're doing it. So, Connie, you've said it all. I have. Thank you again for joining us. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Ricky, thank you. for all your work and soldiering through

what's been, I imagine, a very difficult show. No, it's been great. You guys are great. Good job. Mark, you have a fire in your belly that only can come from the evacuation from both ends, and I thank you. Well, I think that's well said. That's well said. There's nothing else in the belly. It's just the fire.

It's empty. It's totally charred. All right, we'll be back Thursday. Flashpoint Focus. Hit us up on Twitter or maybe on the Reddit or whatever and let us know if you have a better name for the series, our off-season series. Don't bother me with it. But, well, certainly, at Mark Sessler on Twitter,

he will be our point man here. So, hit up Mark. That's amazing. Disaster. Yeah, the Evark still doesn't understand how it works. Now he's getting crazy. He's walking right into a nightmare. Getting redder.

Still crazy. All right. That's it. Watch this. Let's go. Until Thursday. Get ready. Flashpoint Focus series.

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