NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Predicting surprise camp cuts

Episode Date: July 25, 2016

A room filled with heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler – break down the latest NFL news, including the potential suspension for Le’Veon Bell and J.J. Watt’s back surgery. Then, the heroes discuss the sad passing of former NFL Head Coach Dennis Green before ending the podcast by sharing some high profile players who could be cut in training camp this year.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast. Doesn't think Caddyshack is funny. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling and Greg Rosethol. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan.

Irish. Needed a love with the underdogs on top. They said it could have been done. They doubted us. They called his chumps. But in the end, the shield, yes, the shield of all teams have won the softball championship of the city of Los Angeles C-plus division. Yes, that's actually the name of the division, which tells you a lot.

shocking the world or at least West L.A. with back-to-back victories on Thursday night to claim the title. A lot of champions. Actually, we're all champions now. Wes, your takeaways, you battled through the hamstring wisely. And I thought showed great leadership, took yourself out of the lineup, said, I can't go.

I'm holding the team back. So you had a great perspective on everything that unfolded on what was truly a special night in Los Angeles. Well, the first takeaway is just the absolute unbridled glee that had the whole team and the fans. I mean, it was just so fun, and everybody was wearing these huge smiles the rest of the night. I mean, we always celebrate well whether we win or lose, and the celebration went well into the night. And then I think two reasons why we won, our defense was tight, really tight. Irish played awesome at third.

Tony Garcia, I've been playing softball since 1992. He's the best shortstop I've ever seen. Our defense was tight, and the base, Romney. running we ran the bases like demons and that forces the other team into a lot of errors when you do that and Greg Rosenthal yeah you were in the stands you saw it all you had a great view for the finals match up I did and did you sense like a wave building of glory well I showed up you had to play two games in one night against two teams that have barely lost all year right the record combined three losses all year nearly spotless I showed up after the first game the the energy

was fantastic and I will always remember where I was when Dre Andrea Kazada down in the newsroom made the play one of the top five or six sports moments of the decade as far as I'm concerned. Any play the play of the game running in from right field with the bases loaded

late in the game that was it. Save the lead and the game. It's exciting. An incredible shoe string catch and as a manager I inscribed the game balls I gave Dreo one and I just wrote simply on the ball the catch and that's how history will remember it for sheer difference of making magnitude magnitude it's hard to come up with a situation that would matter more in a game

base is loaded the best hitter in the league up to bat sinking liner and she comes in and catches it they would have i think they just scored 10 runs at any and instead they get zero it's and there are NFL parallels you look at a team like the ravens a few years ago the giants we weren't the best team but we got hot at the right time and we peaked and we are now champions. And thank you to everyone on Twitter that was excited by the news. One guy tweeted at me that he actually pulled over on the side of the road to check to see how things turned out. You know, all the great video that was taken. Everybody seen you're getting dumped with ice after the game. I got a Gatorade bath. Two things I never thought that would

happen. And it really bothered me a little bit how much the game meant to me, winning meant to me, until again, Tony, who played shortstop, who actually played professional ball. I think he made it to double A in baseball. He said it was one of his greatest wins of his lifetime as well because we just turned a team that had no business even going 500 into a champion. Anyway. Not to mention the Irishman with a big night too. He was outstanding all season.

I think one of the big differences in the season from our turnaround was Irish in the lead-off spot. I think he went, not even, this isn't even hyperbole. I think he went 19 for 20 over the last month. And probably scored 19 runs too. Did a great job hitting. running the bases, but above all, I thought, on Thursday night, fielding the position beautifully, and it was fitting that the last play of the game was a hot shot right at third.

Brandon fields the ball, steps on third, throws over to the old Zucer, and the title was ours. The thing I love about this team, it would be our mistake was not documenting it on film from the start and making a hard-knox version of this club, because when you guys began back on what, Cinco de Mayo, this was a beer-soaked, you know, goggles of incompetence. But the players that had had no business even being at the plate started to make big plays.

And in that last game, downstairs, Brassy of all people, had a big hit, right? Brassy had never seen a softball in her life three months ago and came up with a double that really was one of the huge hits of the night. And, you know, we can get into this down the road. There are, you know, there's some talks that need to be had. You know, remember after the Mets won the World Series in 86, Dwight Gooden, who was battling some personal demons, did not show up for the victory parade. I think it should at least be stated that Mark Sessler

nowhere to be seen on Championship Thursday. The front office leader. There were some questions about where our front office leader was. He said there was some type of illness at home. That's the same thing Dwight Gooden said when he missed the parade that he was sick. There are questions. I like being compared to like a mid-80s drug addled Dwight Gooden. But, I mean, I had two children and a wife that were all ill.

was a serious disappointment to be, A, that they were not feeling well, that was the primary disappointment, but B, to miss this event was, it was crushing. And I followed it on Twitter jealously because I wanted to be there, but I couldn't have been happier for you guys. It's amazing what you did. People were asking about you all through the night. You were missed. Miss B. So we are the champions. No doubt about it. Can't take it away. Try us. Great show today, guys. Coming up. The type of the show that you look at the budget and you think to yourself, whoa, you know, we're blessed to be able to talk about football for a living and blessed to be able to do what people I view as friends. Pre-show grade C-plus.

All right. So now, a lot of news to get to suspensions, people being reinstated from suspension, surgery, season-ending injuries, all sorts of stuff to touch on in the news. And then we will also talk about Greg wrote a banger. about potential camp cuts. These are veteran names, guys, that have been impact players in the NFL, who now have to worry about this summer whether they'll even have a job come September.

So that's a signature Rosenthal piece. He loves talking about people who could lose their jobs. Yeah. You make it sound so evil. Signature boss America. Okay, yeah, football's back. Everyone's excited. Hey, guys, might not be back for you.

Yeah. But before we do that, we go behind the glass. Two, yes, the man that helped carry the shield down the stretch. The Irishman, any final thoughts about the team from you, Irish? I just wanted to say thank you for bringing me on to the team because it is honestly my favorite team that I have ever been on. It really was. It was our pleasure and an honor, sir.

I appreciate it. Let's do some news. Anything possible. Anything possible. That was Mark I wasn't listening I'm sorry I don't know who it was

Greg I know you Yeah it's Kevin Garnett After the Celtics won the title Absolutely 2008 I believe One of the best post game Press interviews Ever done

Yeah sure Tainted title a little bit It bought a team But All right Here we go. We'll start with the Pittsburgh Steelers who may be and appear to be without their star running back for the first four games of the season. Levion Bell facing a four-game ban from missing, quote, several drug tests,

according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rappaport. This came down on Friday. The case is still under review. And Levyon Bell came out with a posting on social media on Monday saying, I will win this appeal, something along those lines. don't count me out for those first four games. So he must feel that he has some type of case to beat the suspension. But as things stand,

Levian Bell will miss the first four games in the season, which is more bad news for a Steelers team, Mark Sessler, already without Martavis Bryant because of a substance abuse issue-related suspension. And now no Lev Bell, this killer. Yeah, I mean, if this suspension for Bell sticks, you're missing him and Bryant for a combined 20 games. they lost Big Ben and Levi-on-Bell for 15 starts last year. And I guess for me, it's just that what kind of offense would this be this year

if both of those guys were on the field for the full season? Potentially up in the realm of record-breaking-type passing game, at least. And you're losing a huge pass catcher along with a running back in Levon-Bell. You're taking an offense that would average 30 points a game, and it's now going to be about 22 or 23 points a game. They're going to score a touchdown less per week. But we've seen this offense. and they weren't a bad offense without Levy on Bell last year.

Now, they did have Martavis Bryant, but they... Can you really count on a 33-year-old DeAngelo Williams to play the same way he did at 32 years old? No, not necessarily. And not the way he did at 31 years old? But you have a better chance of it happening for four games and then knowing that he's going to go back to being a backup. The Steelers, unlike most NFL teams these days, just give the ball to their starter.

When Bell's in the lineup, it's not like DeAngelo Williams is sharing carries with him. He's going to get the ball five times a game. So can Williams have a good month after what he showed last season? I could see it. It's not a bad offensive line, certainly not run blocking on paper. If you look at the splits for Ben Rathosberger, where his numbers really dropped off and where the offense really dropped off is when Martavis Bryant wasn't in the lineup. They were able to survive with DeAngelo Williams.

Now, will they be able to do that this year? West makes a good point. These guys get old and then they go downhill. They don't really have a good backup plan. But it's just four games. I mean, it's a long time in the NFL. but he'll be back in October, and maybe even his body will be better for a guy coming back from a serious knee injury. Or, you know, last year he appealed a three-game suspension. It went to two.

And when you're as confident as he sounds to be, like you said, there may be some inside info. If it sticks, it's against the Redskins, Bengals, Eagles, and Chiefs. But maybe not surprising if it gets turned to two games, not four. Right. And the response, by the way, is interesting. It wasn't like he made a statement. He was replying to someone on his private Instagram account, just replying. to a comment. But you're right.

That's one and the same in today's culture. I guess so, but it did show a lot of confidence. There was no ifs or buts about it. It was just saying, I'm not going to be missed those games. How about ANs? There was some Mends. I only like the ifs or butts. Not conventional there by the boss.

Moving on, more suspension talking. This is some good news for Mark Sessler fans. And Mark Sessler, I would think, as well. But if you're Mark Sessler fan, it doesn't make you a Browns fan necessarily. Yeah, I don't think that. How about just Browns fans? Yeah, let's start there. People that would be a Mark Sessler fan,

they better be Browns fans because if you're not rooting for the Browns, you're rooting for your guy's misery. Or just the status quo. Josh Gordon's coming back, guys. The wide receiver, the former all-pro wide receiver who's been missing for a year, dealing with his own substance abuse issues, has been reinstated on what was called a conditional basis,

the NFL announced on Monday. Gordon will have to serve a four-game suspension before he can play again for the Browns, but he will be allowed to participate in training camp and meetings. And I saw some buzzing and people upset. You know, why does Tom Brady have to disappear entirely from the world during his suspension? But Josh Gordon can train. That's part of the substance abuse policy. They want these guys to be in the mix and be on the grid.

So Gordon is coming back week five against the Patriots. same game that Tom Brady gets back so that'll be fun to watch if of course Mark he can keep his head on straight from now until then which is no given Yeah my immediate reaction was I don't really feel that much more confident

that he'll be on the field Week 5 than any other announcement they can make. We don't know if Gordon can stay out of the mix in terms of a botched test between now and then if he does I mean it helps a team that absolutely needs to find every place

playmaker they can. You know, when he came back in 2014, he did not know Kyle Shanahan's offense, and he kind of threw that team off to some degree, and he was not a huge help in the locker room either. I think he finished that year suspended by the team. I think they sat him for a game. So it's about learning, getting with the program and, you know, showing that he can. If he comes back and he's the guy is, suddenly Corey Coleman, the rookie, is not forced to deal with number one cornerbacks. He's going to deal with your second best cornerback, which would be a help for him as well. Well, this is where B. being inside the building helps immeasurably, not just during camp,

but during the first month of the season, you would think he's going to get up to speed on the offense and get back. But this is a guy who has not played a lot of football in the last three years at all. So I think it's fair to wonder if he's going to be the same guy. I think it's fair to wonder, could they trade him? Is that that crazy? Could they get anything for him? It's not crazy.

I mean, I don't think they could get anything for him. So that's probably the biggest problem. But if they were able to get something for him, I would imagine they would be open to that. You know what's weird as a potential logical landing spot would be New England? Always. Any trade of a major player always goes through the Patriots. Well, Michael Lombardi had some time with him.

I don't know if that would matter. Not that he's actually, he's not in New England anymore. It also got me thinking the Browns have got some players here. I mean, they didn't need to find the quarterback, but Duke Johnson, Corey Coleman, Josh Gordon, and you have Andrew Hawkins as your slot, and you have Gary Barnage as your tight end. That's a pretty good skill. Well, I'm not too shabby.

What Greg is speaking of, I got an I am from Greg when this news broke, and he, should I, you want me to read it? Share it, yeah. I know you didn't want me to share it, but I have to go, like, you basically, here's what this is all, this is all not. Greg's rambling to his, uh, oh. Yeah, you can read it for yourself, Craig. He said, hey, what's up, dude? Don't tell anybody else, okay, but I'm overtly worried about New England's chances against

the Browns in week five. Josh Gordon is back. He's talented and he's very saucy on the field. I feel anxiety inside my body over that October 9th date with Cleveland, a game taking place in Cleveland, by the way. I'm nervous and on edge, but don't tell anybody, please. Okay, thanks, yours, Greg. You kind of.

So formal for us message. A little bit of a betrayal of trust there. Well, I need it. You know, we want to get inside Greg's head and where he's at. Also, one phrase not in Greg Rosenthal's vocabulary. What's up, dude? That's how Greg and I have that thing going on, though. I can talk that way.

This is interesting because Cessler just laid out a I-M conversation with Greg. Also, through the Irishman under the bus with a tweet at the commissioner of the NFL because Irishman was working on some drop things downstairs. At least that tweet had a measure of truth to it, unlike this. Well, he showed up. The show started. I have a hard out in 67 minutes, and the show has started 30 minutes late, and I complained to Brandon about it directly,

and he said, take your complaints to the top. So I did. Irish? There's nothing wrong or infactual about that. That was absolutely correct. Greg, do you want to share a little bit about the new mark now that he's not under your thumb? Well, I have nothing to share in particular.

What do you mean? Oh, your theory that he's exerting his power at this point with the boss in charge? Yeah, he believes the kids can just run the, the inmates are running the asylum. It's called leadership. It's stepping up being a leader and a team player. I always felt like Mark and I had a good relationship, but now today I feel like he's treating me like he used to treat TD, and I'm afraid of where we're going to go.

No, I'm just holding you accountable, which is something you should want. What a leader. By the way, the Browns drafted, he had 14 draft picks in May, if you recall, five wide receivers in the first five rounds. So, you know, the roster space is precious. How many wide receivers are going to make this team? Are you going to cut some of these guys that were. drafted in those mid-rounds.

No, you keep 12 guys. Very good. Don't feel the defensive line. Moving on big, big, big injury news. JJ Watt, the all-world defensive linemen for the Houston Texans, underwent surgery to repair a herniated disc on Wednesday. Rapsheet reported he will open the camp on the Pup list. The team is hoping he'll be ready for the start of the regular season.

And that the recovery time of eight weeks is a best case scenario. And you do the math. And I don't like to do math, Greg. You know, I got a 39 on a state-mandated math test. But if you look at the weeks, we're already, where are we right now? June 25th, we're taping this eight weeks. Surgery was last Wednesday. It's right around week one, if I'm not mistaken, right?

That's right. And there's serious doubt now whether he's going to be ready for the season opener. And as the news broke later that night, the timetable got more realistic. Mike Garifolo, our new NFL insider, you know, put that timetable on that really doubted whether Watt could be back week one. And why would they rush it? Back injury, please. This is a guy who in the last, what is it, eight months has broken his hand, right?

Yes. Had a sports hernia surgery, groin surgery in the off-season, which is not an easy one to recover from and now had a back surgery. He has not faced a lot of obstacles in his career as an individual. Certainly they have as a team, but as an individual, he's just been dominant from day one. This is by far the toughest offseason and the most he's ever had to overcome. Even if he is backed by week one or week two, there's no guarantee that coming off a back surgery, he's going to be the same dominant force right off the bat.

It's the only thing, really, that stands between J.J. Watt being an all-time player and being a guy that was kind of a comet is if his body betrays him. And maybe there's not enough to show us to have real concern, but a back injury is not something you mess around with. Clayton Kershaw and baseball is the same way right now. Another all-time talent that you wonder if the back is something that's going to cost him being a legendary type player.

So, you know, JJ Watt, I would not rush him back. I would give him if he needs eight weeks, I would give him 10 and make sure this thing doesn't flare up again because then you could risk lose him the whole season. One sneaky thing in the Texans' favor is their schedule. They don't have a lot of division games up front if he does miss extended time. Their last four weeks are all against the AFC South. And their first month, other than a Thursday night game in New England,

which, by the way, could be missing Tom Brady and J.J. Watt. It's a pretty good schedule. Home for three games, Bears, Chiefs, and Titans. You just got to be safe with J.J. Watt. He means so much to that. team do you get you guys excited for the inevitable ponderous j j wott i'm on my way back workout videos they're coming they're coming to be fair by the way he's never missed the game in his career so it's not like injury he's always been able to fight through here i'm just saying

he's always been able to fight through injuries it's not been a problem for him in his career before now why doubt j jay what yeah uh moving on greg hardy the former star pass rusher who is now kind of floating in the NFL ether after his domestic violence incident and then a troubled stint with the Dallas Cowboys. He met with the Jacksonville Jaguars last week. He worked out for the team, in fact, on Wednesday and Thursday, Rand Gettlin of NFL Network reported. But despite these workouts, no signing is imminent,

according to Rapsheet. And at this point, Greg, if the Jaguars aren't going to sign him, who is? I think the Jaguars will if they have an injury. They made that clear that they didn't make it clear. It'll definitely happen, but he's someone that they'd consider it. The report suggested they asked players about potentially signing Hardy as far back as March and April. And I think if things don't work out with their pass rushers or Fowler gets hurt again, it seems like they would sign him, right?

Maybe a week two, where it's not guaranteed. I mean, this isn't exactly what their general manager said, but basically we're willing to sell our soul for Greg Hardy. But he said, look, we know what he's done. It's bad. It's reprehensible, but we're about winning right now. And I don't, it's short-sighted to me. I don't think you can take a guy who has shown no remorse or contrition

and bring him into a locker room. Well, wouldn't you say that if they actually signed him? Are they really selling their soul to work them out? The fact that we even know about this is also to take the temperature and people's reaction to see if people are as glued to this as they should. I think West said it right. I mean, if you do this as an organization, you're saying something about yourself.

I'm disappointed, and even having him into visit, I think it sends a rotten message. There's a, I mean, I'm not defending Greg Hardy on any level, but there's a lot of bad guys playing football. A lot of bad guys who have owned up to their mistakes. I think that's not a small thing. That's a very big thing. And I would say if you sign this guy, Greg Hardy, in July, you got to deal with the PR fallout all through the quiet time of the NFL calendar, all through training camp. It probably would make more sense if you were. trying to avoid that type of heat.

Yeah, bring him in in the middle of the season. If he's not signed yet, you probably avoid some of that backlash that you would get if you did during the office. Plus, you nailed that the contract after week one is a completely different situation. You want to think about a team that doesn't care about negative media opinion. It's the Dallas Cowboys. And the Dallas Cowboys could not wait for Greg Hardy to leave, not because everyone criticized them and they took a PR hit,

but because he was a pain in the ass. They didn't like having him there. He was a good player on the field. he made a big difference per play in terms of his effectiveness last year. And yet Jerry Jones, of all people, who is very lenient in terms of his player's behavior as long as they care about football and they're not a cancer in the locker room,

could not wait for that guy to leave. More troubled NFL star talk. This one, Raiders, Passarcher Alden Smith, who is currently suspended. The NFL is reportedly looking into a video posted on Periscope by what some people believe and many people believe is Alden Smith what shows

a man that may be Alden Smith smoking a joint getting some grief from a woman off camera who is saying you shouldn't even be doing that and then this person who again many people believe to be Alden Smith and the evidence is there

because it's an account that he created a sub-account other postings on this account show his face and it's Alden Smith and it sounds like the guy in the video that we're talking about here and he's holding a joint and he's smoking it and this is the last thing I'll dismiss should ever be doing it. It's got to be up there in one of the stupidest things I've ever seen a player do, a guy that's really his career is at the crossroads very much still. And I even cut a little, or I asked Brandon to cut a little bit of the audio because

it also includes one of the dumbest errors in judgment. Oh, it's history of humanity at the very end. Please listen. Oh, this is a wheyra. Oh, Ouija. You're stupid. You're tripping. They don't know it's me. It's not like I put Alden Smith. I mean, talk about bad editing.

You got to edit that. That's the final two seconds or three seconds of the video. You've got to take that out. By the way, have you ever heard of voice recognition? I mean, all they have to do is listen to any other video clip of Alden Smith and make your own decision. It's not like I'm saying hey, it's me, Alden Smith. As he says, hey, it's me, on Smith.

On a Periscope account that has probably 15 first-person videos, Alden Smith, talking into the camera about his goings-on. Right. And right before that, the transcript of GSNBayarea.com did was, is the woman saying, you shouldn't even be posted that? And he says, expletive, do you see my face? And then they get to the part about the name. Like, what a genius. Sometimes you're like, oh, maybe he doesn't have the right people around him. I don't know anything about this woman.

Or, again, evidence that it's definitely him. but, like, she's saying to him, you shouldn't do this because you cannot be doing this because of your history and how much trouble you can get it to. He's like, ah, no, I don't care. You can't see me. We see you, Alden Smith. What is the upside of the video either?

Like, what is he hoping to get up? It was his, quote, fire up session. I mean, that's good. That's good. Listen, when you got to post your fire up session, you got to post it. Oh, boy. Anyway, retirement talk

I mean we're not going to see Alden Smith for a while This has to manifest itself Well, early November if everything goes perfectly But he's, you know Right, he's supposed to be coming back midseason And this, this and whatever He's got all this time in front of him too If you were guessing

You would have to guess something will happen Or this will be enough that he won't be playing for these Raiders And Wes said it too The one thing about the suspensions is it does seem like Goodell if the player has the right attitude and shows growth, that affects the timetable to get back on the field. And this is just pure idiocy. Fire obsession.

We all believe that the NFL's marijuana rules are antiquated. Yes. But this guy has well-documented substance abuse issues. He shouldn't be. I mean, it goes without saying that this is going to come back on him. All right. Retirement talk. Greg Jennings, the former Packers wide receiver that had his best years in Green Bay,

later played in Minnesota to lesser impact has decided to retire he announced his retirement on YouTube and he leaves the game as a guy that never the most talented wide receiver but was a guy who's in the right place for sure

somebody that caught touchdown passes from both Brett Farve and Aaron Rogers in his prime and it is I always looked at him as here's a word of warning because when he still had years left in the tank when he was about 29 years old, hitting free agency, and he thought the Packers were disrespecting him. He went to Minnesota and became irrelevant, and then his

career was over shortly thereafter. Take less money, stay with the star quarterback, get those numbers. You'll get more money in the long run. Greg Jennings didn't take that path, but that's another conversation. Super Bowl champion, a pro bowl guy career over after 10 seasons, Greg. Not to mention, don't talk trash about your quarterback and his leadership. skills on your way out the door and burn a bridge where he would be a hero in Green Bay. Who knows? Maybe he could have gotten a ring on or maybe not in Green Bay. But either way, he's a guy who's an enemy now in Green Bay. Well, Aaron Rogers has a good sense of humor and he doesn't take things.

He doesn't take slights too seriously. Right. He should be beloved because this is a guy who in the playoffs when they won, first of all, he caught an amazing amount of big time touchdowns. He had that overtime touchdown against the Broncos from Brett Farb. He had Brett Farb's record-tying and record-breaking touchdowns when he passed Dan Marino. And he had a monster playoff run when they won the Super Bowl,

including a couple scores in the Super Bowl. But I remember being at the game, and that third and 10 play with just under six minutes remaining after the Steelers were coming on like gangbusters, it looked like the Packers are going to give the ball back, only up three, and just a precision, unbelievable throw by Aaron Rogers in that situation, but it also took a nice catch from Greg Jennings

over the outstretched hands of Ike Taylor, R.EK. Taylor. And that just, I mean, he put up plays like that that I'm sure Packers fans are going to remember forever. For a half decade from 2007 to 2011, he was one of the five most productive wide receivers in the NFL. I take that career. Sure, why not? And he's rich.

He saw him on ballers, I believe. He was watching some old episodes of ballers. He really started the... the show, though. It's got its moments. He started the trend of Ted Thompson hitting on guys from random colleges at wide receivers, second round pick from Western Michigan. What do you laughing about, ballers? No, we'll talk about it after the show.

Take it offline. In other retirement news, three-time Pro Bowl defensive end, Darnell Docket is also retiring after 10 years, a career 40 and a half sacks. He's a shared record for the most QB takedowns at a Super Bowl. That's a good tribute. I meant bank that for when we bring back Win West's toaster if we bring back Win West's toaster.

But Wes is here right now. He just heard the answer. He'll forget. He'll forget. It's also not his toaster at this point. It's Shaq's toaster. That's fair. But anyway, Darnold Docket, who later went to the 49ers,

his career is over after 10 years. A colorful guy, one of the most colorful Twitter accounts out there, but also, Wes, he was a good player in his day. The Cardinals franchise has been around longer than any in the NFL. They started in 1920 as the Chicago Cardinals, and he is on their all-time team as a defensive end. Seventh and Sacks French for the franchise. Absolutely.

And he was a fun guy on Twitter. I think that's how people remember him now. Well, unless you're A.J. McCarran. That's right. He did have an obsession with A.J. McCarran's now wife. Or if you're, yeah, just strong that out there. If you're a little person,

maybe you're a fan of talking out. I don't know. If you're a little person? He has a well-documented adoration of little people. Oh. But I was going to get to the point. I was going to get to the point, fun player to watch. He was one where you never got cheated on his effort.

He was always going 100 miles an hour. Injury news, Junior Gillette, who missed all of last season, all of his first season, with the Washington Redskins with a torn Achilles. He's going to miss all the second season with the Washington Redskins. He tore his Achilles again. This time his right Achilles. He tore his left last season.

So this feels like forever ago, but Galette was assigned to a major contract in New Orleans after some really big seasons with them. That ended really terribly with a lot of he said, she said. He was getting the fresh start in Washington, but now at age 28, he'll be 29. next March coming off double Achilles ruptures. You have to wonder if Junior Galette is going to get back on the field. I wonder how the Redskins are going to rush the passer. It's a big loss for them.

They're not a good front. Ryan Kerrigan and Preston Smith showed pretty well as a rookie last year. It's a solid outside linebacker duo. That's basically what they call Kerrigan at this point. And Gillette would have been part of that. But other than that, the defensive line, I think, has questions. and overall the defense, I think, has a lot of questions. Don't sleep on Chris Baker, had a great year last year.

I'll throw out a pass rusher. Yeah? Greg Hardy? No. You cannot replace Junior Gillette with Greg Hardy. That is just asking the karma gods. I remember Chris Wesleying having a memorable rant against Junior Gillette for his own off-field activity. I don't remember him showing much contrition either.

No, he's, they're two peas in a pod. The only thing that the Redskins got away with here is they didn't. didn't really give them almost any money in either of these years. Well, it looks like it could have been a steal. It was close to the veteran minimum for the two seasons. So it wasn't a huge setback for them. But they were expecting them to play a lot of snaps. It is just another reminder.

We were at that time of year where we can do all our little offseason, what roster resetting and where we are. Then players' bodies start exploding and everything, the whole map changes. I mean, we're at that point. Well, we're going to, I guarantee within three weeks we'll have four massive injuries. Oh. Four massive injuries that change four teams, you know, instantly. I don't necessarily doubt there will be injuries.

Well, we know that's a big thing. If there was an NFL season with no injuries, that would be absolutely stunning. I just, the idea of one, a player actually blowing up. Well, there'd be a hard for the NFL. I mean, this guy, we don't ever know what these athletes are going through. You have to rehab two different Achilles and two, that's a bad two-year deal for any person. I don't think that would be fun. Do you think the NFL would end if someone exploded on the field?

Would they either have to end the game or turn it to like two-hand touch? I think they'd treat it like 9-11, like take a week off, then we get back into. You're making a lot of money in football. Oh, so you think like after the person exploded, it'd be like, wait, can we be funny anymore? They would get really, you know, people have about a two-week attention span, tops for even the biggest issues. So they'd skip a week, it would look good, and they'd get right back to action. What the hell's going on out here? He's going to say, feel free to say whatever you want because all of this is going to be edited out.

No, it's all staying in. Moving on, sad news in the NFL on Friday. Dennis Green, the former Vikings and later Cardinals coach, passed away Thursday night from complications related to a cardiac arrest. According to his family, he was 67 years old. And, Wes, you are our resident football historian. I remember Green as a guy that lorded over many very very. good Viking teams, including the 98 team that just missed getting over the hump, Gary Anderson's miss field goal, of course, the NFC title game. What was Dennis Green in terms of football history?

Where does he fit in? I think he's a really good, long-time coach, and as an African-American, he had a huge impact on bringing other guys into the league and kind of opening the door for guys like Mike Tomlin and Tony Dungey. So I think that's his greatest impact. But that 98 Vikings team. Their one missed kick of being away from being remembered as one of the greatest teams in history. And it's the Super Bowl that, you know, if you were a fan back then, I'll never forget where I was in that game. And it was just a crazy game. It's the Super Bowl matchup that we so badly wanted that we'll never see. And this guy, Dennis Green, he came out of Bill Walsh's West Coast. He was a West Coast offense guy, worked with Randall Cunningham, Dante Culpepper,

Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, Chris Carter, Randy Moss, Emmett Smith, Eds James, Larry Fitzgerald, I mean, there's no end of the list of guys that he impacted. He made Jeff George look good for a year in Minnesota. That was the thing. Randy Moss made Jeff George look good. Well, what about what he did with Randall Cunningham? Yeah, I think you have to give Dennis Green some credit. For each year, they'd have a different player there, whether it was Cunningham or George,

and eventually Culpepper ended up having the greatest non-MvP season, probably in the history of football when he lost it to Peyton Manning. And you have to give Dennis Green a lot of credit for keeping the offense at that high. a level year after year after year. Is he the sneaky under the radar all-time QB whisper? I think he's very much in that conversation because the guys we talk about now, he was doing it before all those guys. But he does.

His legacy does get boiled down to that 98 team. Of course, his rant, his podium rant with the Cardinals. But yeah, as Wes alluded to, as Mark and Greg said, much more to Dennis Green than just those two aspects, dead at the age of 67, and that's what's happening in the news. Not the off-season anymore. That's a lot of news. It is not the off-season anymore. And listen, I know it made Wes and Greg very uncomfortable when we talked about the exploding player.

I don't think there's nothing comfortable about those type of conversations, but it's important, especially in these times, to communicate. We have to be willing to converse about those things. By the way, we got our MVP coins. Really? Talk about celebrations. I didn't even know that. Wes.

Wes is holding his right now. Are you taking his home with you, Wes? Gorgeous. And, you know, I gave the shield some, not our softball team, the NFL, a little bit of heat, that you win an MVP and you get a $5 gift certificate with your coin. Well, they proved me wrong. It was $10. I think, well, were your complaints, the engine behind this doubling the prize? I don't know.

I can't be, I can't be sure. I can get that coffee. I always wanted. I've never had a cup of coffee in my life. By the way, have a Starbucks machine in our break room, so I don't think, here's my theory by the way, to answer that question, do I think that me saying that

got the extra five bucks? No. Because I could say this with pretty good sense of confidence that no one from 345 Park Avenues ever listened to this podcast. Well, I think you're right. From Roger on down. I remember

when you had a beef with the parking people in our building and you went public with that on Twitter and the results were nothing. There were no results, so I don't think you complaining has gotten you much. Well, that was right there, a gauntlet being thrown down, that if those listeners in 345 Park are out there, they should, you know, come let us know. Come at us. I used to work there, Dan.

I was in 345 Park for a year before I came out here. I've tweeted the commissioner. I have no response from this guy. How about get back to me on Twitter, Commissioner? I don't think it's going to happen. Well, I mean, why would you not? Why would you not get into a conversation with one of your own employees, a very hardworking employee? You've got a pretty important job that he's doing.

I'm going to say, I'm going to take this a little bit further. So nobody in 345, anyone with an assigned parking spot at this company, no one has listened to the show. Henry? Besides him. There's some shit. There's a couple of shows. I mean, it might be good for us that that's the reality. Might be the reason we're still going.

I think that's part of it. Yeah, maybe we should just shut up. Yes. Let's talk about potential camp cuts. Okay. A banger from Greg Rosenthal. And I like the way you do this. You know, sometimes Greg,

because I speak honestly with you and candidly about your page layout sometimes and your headlines. I think you did a nice job breaking this down into tiered sections. So you have big-name veterans. Wessel think it's really funny who's number one on that list. Not a surprise to me. First round picks running out of chances, which I like that, saucy. and then free agency deal has gone wrong like that. And then running backs on the edge.

Now we're getting a little chunky here. Running backs on the edge. And finally, the last six-pack, which is your edition of Odds and Ends. Yeah, you know, we're working with a great editing team as well. So sometimes they have a say in these. Miss Typh and one of the subheads, that's fine. Oof.

He can add in the last one. So anyway, so let's start with that first category. Big name veterans. This is those stuff that. really gets people juiced uh i'll do it real quick one through six victor cruz that that's what for west uh arian foster now with the dolphins c jillers spiller with the saints gyrrhus bird gerris byruse jirr bird of the saints devon hester of the falcons it's so ridiculous still good nick falls of the rams at six so do you put this in order gregg of no there's most likely

Who of this group, Greg, will start out that way, is most likely to get the axe in your mind. Ooh, that's a good way to put it. Well, Foles, because Foles is almost a Peta completely. I almost didn't put him on the list because it's so obvious. But he was a guy that got a $6 million roster bonus this year and a $27 million contract only a year ago. So I do think he's notable because a team like the Broncos of the 49ers could trade for him. Devin Hester would be the next one. But how about let's talk about the bigger names.

I would say bird out of those others. because if he does not get healthy, even though financially, it does not help them. Jairoos Bired. Jairoos, Bired. It costs more money to get rid of him than it does to keep him. If he's not healthy again, I think at some point you just got to give up. They got a lot of safeties there. They have Von Bell.

They have Roman Harper back. They have Kenny Vicaro, of course. They can get by with it. Can I be straight honest with you right now? Please. If you would have told me Devin Hester was 47 and has been out of the league for three years, I would have been like, yeah, that kind of checks out. He was good in his first season in Atlanta.

Yeah. Played wide receiver and was a good returner. I believe he made the Pro Bowl. Yeah, it's surprising that he's still on that. 33 years old. The first three names were a little bolder, which were Spiller, Foster, and Cruz. Foster's, the contract tells you that he's going to have to play for that role.

But he might have the highest of these three names risk, reward, or at least the highest upside, I would think. If he somehow, listen, and Wes, you pointed out when we talked about the signing, he wasn't looking too good before he got hurt. So maybe it's really, you're asking a lot. But they desperately need another guy in there with a Gai. I think that he could have a big payoff, but I don't know if it's going to happen. Victor Cruz, I mean, we'll do the analysis once he actually plays a football game.

You know what? I realized writing this piece that either I missed or totally forgot. The Giants guaranteed his entire salary when they gave him a pay cut this year. So that would make him less likely to get cut. And it got me thinking, how many organizations would have done that? When they talk about the Giants are, you know, you get annoyed, Dan, that the Giants often call the classy organization. You know, they get a lot of credit in your – this would be a case of that.

This is a case of a team decided to just guarantee him money as a show of faith. I don't think a lot of teams would have done something like that. By the way, how many – this is just a bit of a Cessler here. fantasy owners who are going to show their friends how smart they are and take Sterling Shepard in the fifth round and then going to be upset when he has 31 catches. Well, why did you play fantasy to begin with? Why are you predicting doom for Sterling Shepard?

I'm just saying this is, first of all, Mark, what is your problem with fantasy? Honestly, how much time do we have? We were running out of time. Yeah, give me a brief. I don't, I just think for me personally, it's great for everyone else. I am covering football all day long every day,

and I don't need an added layer of football that isn't real that I have to deal with. I've got enough. I'm dealing with reality. I have a theory. Staring it right in the face. I have a theory. Okay.

Mark is a bit of a joy kill in the newsroom. You don't like when people are too excited and like watching games. I don't think that's a fair categorization. A big thing, we've been, Mark, you and I have been in the newsroom forever now. This will be our sixth or seventh season. That adds a whole other level to people being plugged in

and celebrating. You don't like people. I will tell you in 30 seconds. The last time I really, truly ran a fantasy team was three seasons ago. My wife was on one with a bunch of coworkers that she didn't really know from other companies. And they were, she was getting killed every year. She's a mom, she doesn't have time for this stuff. I took over the team, and on the draft, I saw people, it was all guys ripping on her during the draft.

And I secretly drafted this devastating squad. And I took this league down. We won the championship, and I said, I'm never playing again. That's how you go out. Well, you've been in a league with me for five straight years. I am simply my name is attached to it. Wait, if you're this, I'm simply my name is attached to it. I've never even known who's on our roster.

If you're so against it, what are your feelings during our fantasy week here? And are you relinquishing your role from the fantasy outsider? Because then that name would be available. No, no, no, no. I will do the segment, but I told you it's largely a series of shows where I just take my foot off the pedal. Like the second half of the season. There. yeah there is that's a fair question by Greg does that open up that name does it lift the copyright

no because i will do that i will do that part of the show which is a very small part uh professionally um no west answer your question maybe i'll put it kind of in totally different players and all that cordarral patterson is a guy that comes to mind there's always the guy the buzzy spring summer guy that people get super pumped about and then people reach buy into the that and then he does not live up to the hype. They just, for some reason, that name jumps out to me, the fact that he's a giant Sterling Shepherd sounds busty. A different kind of.

It's very scientific analysis. He is the type of guy that tends to do well when there's no tackling. He's a Victor Cruz clone. You expect him to do well in the office. And that said, he has a great opportunity there. He's got great hands and great cutting ability and what a routry, blah, blah. Talk about someone who's all great. Talk about someone who appears world-weary with football.

No, I love it. I'm just, this is just an instinct. Sometimes the summer darling pays off, though. Just look at this list, the guy number two. I remember when Aaron Foster was a summer darling. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. One of your darling. I will say.

He was one of my daughter. Number three on this list, C.J. Spiller. It would be a shame if C.J. Spiller in New Orleans does not work out. Because we spent, like, probably 70 or 80 posts describing how great that was going to be. I know. Yeah, I still, I'm not giving up on him. He's on this list because right now he is behind Tim Hightower, who finished the season off very well last year.

And if you're the number three running back, you can't be making 4.5 million. But I wouldn't be surprised if he has a good camp, good preseason, and he makes a team and plays well. the first round picks running out of chances section. DJ Hayden, D. Miller, Matt Elam, Barquevius Mingo, Justin Gilberts. He got two browns on this list. Mark, which one of those browns is more likely to get the axe? I think Gilbert.

That's a toss-up. Honestly, they both have been very disappointing, but the Browns, you know, they know that Mingo can get out there and play games. I think Gilbert has been so detached mentally that he has a lot to prove. Their defensive coordinator was with Mingo in the past, too, so he knows who Mingo is. As Greg pointed out in his post here, a lot of puff pieces around Justin Gilbert. No, that is a shot at one piece that I wrote, I believe.

No, it's not. You're thinking personally. No, no, no. I mean, I was just reporting what the comments were. I didn't even know that. You didn't even link to it. I'm talking about the local Browns writers. And it's not their fault.

It's Hugh Jackson who's puffing them up, but there were many. I was excited, though, if nothing else, research for this piece uncovered this article, which I missed when it first was posted back in April. Quote, bodybuilding granny helps Browns's Mingo get jacked by Mark Sessler. Well, how did I miss this? I don't know. You know, it was out there for you to find. But, I mean, the one thing about Mingo that we always noticed that he could not gain weight,

they tried to get him to get bigger. He's too lean. And he put on, like, 20-something pounds working out with this, like, 65-year-old, you know, former to some degree female bodybuilder, and he had to do homework with her grandchildren and eat all the food she made, and he got jacked. So you're, but you're basically banking on the old bag, letting him down. I am not, I don't know, I wouldn't be surprised if either one of the kids. these players are not on the roster

a week one. A lot of puff pieces around D. Milner also, by the way. I'm not buying into it, but people are, oh, maybe he'll slide in and he'll get Buster Screen a fight for the number two spot. At the very, at the best case scenario,

he's a nickel guy that sees some work, but he is Milner as disappointing as Justin Gilbert. Yes, in a lot of ways he is because not only has, was he a big miss on a top 10 pick. He was also drafted

the year or a week after Revis was traded. Did he call himself the best, he would be the best cornerback in football couple years? Yeah, but these guys do that stuff all the time. How about put a clamp on? It's more of the fact that not only do you lose Revis, you brought in a total bus, so it was like a double killer for the team, but

you know, they're not asking a lot of them, I'm fine with that. I was a rough draft now that I'm, or rough couple drafts in the secondary, Eelam at safety, DJ Hayden, which is Reggie McKenzie's first ever draft pick in Oakland. He's got a boomer bust. Bouncing. that back nicely those cornerbacks uh free agency deals gone gone wrong arthur jones of the cults whoa alteron verner of the bucks amad brooks of the niners um west which one of those guys

are going to not only not get cut but bounce back and be a real difference maker in 2016 i don't think any of them are but i have a soft spot for arthur jones because he once got me three sandwiches from you guys how did he do that was it wait he did uh go get my lunch for agent version, and the mind was Arthur Jones will sign with the Colts. You guys get the other 31 teams. By the way, that's coming up later next month, the big one. This is, that's, you know, we do the

Go Get My Lunch, clown every, you know, every quarter of the football season, it breaks down to, but the biggest one is the regular season predictions, and that will be coming up next month, so stay tuned to that as well as the fantasy extravaganza with West Gregg

and Fantasy Football outsider, Mark Sessler. Yeah. One nugget on Alter on Werner, don't forget that he made a big, one of the big reasons he went to Tampa Bay was he thought that Tampa Bay had a fascinating cultural scene. But part of enjoying the cultural scene in Tampa Bay is producing for the Bucks. Let's get it done. It was even better because I think he was choosing between the Giants of New York

and the Bucks of Tampa. I mean, slow down. I got to know with the cultural center of the universe, Tampa. Running backs on the edge, you know, it starts to get a little beefy here. nice list when we get to you. What does that even mean? It just gets a little chunky. Running backs on the edge.

Garrett Blunt, Ronnie Hillman, Bishop Sanky, Trey Mason, and Andre Williams. That had to hurt to have a couple of your darlings on this list. Bishop Sanky. Which are the, well,

that's a boy. He was your boy. But you know, Tray Mason's part of the most exciting backfield in the NFL according to you. Well, he was excited. He's had too much excitement off the field and that's his biggest problem.

So far. I guess I say chunky because, like, is there a world where Tray Mason and Andre Williams deserve blurbs? I don't know. I guess there is. I mean, I'd go with informative. People want to know. People want to know information. It's a football site.

It makes sense. Yeah, they like it. I would want to know. Trey Mason was a very promising rookie. His dad was a member of one of the greatest rap groups ever. He should be featured. You're dispensing information. Nuggets.

Andre Williams, he was a summer darling last year, if I recall. A couple years ago. Well, he was like their goal line back a couple years ago. I think we figured out he can't do anything but run in a straight line. To me, he feels like they didn't do anything to the coaching staff except remove Tom Coughlin. They didn't really do much to this running back group, even though it's very underwhelming.

But now they'll probably remove Tom Coughlin's boy from B.C., Andre Williams. And this is straight from the boss's copy, Lagart Blunt. The Patriots annually release a big veteran name or three That's kind of what they do. You people see come and keep an eye on Blount or Blunt, who wasn't resigned to the team until April and wasn't healthy this off season.

That makes sense to me. Finally, the last six-pack. Sounds like a horror movie for an alcoholic. All right, Wes. That was a banger. Wes came in on his off day. He's ready to go home, but he had one last bullet in the chamber. It sounds like Sessler on a Sunday once he's had his six days off.

All right. This is a public show, Greg. People are listening. Bryce Petty. And, oh, let's stop right there. Bryce Petty, by the way. You just didn't want to put Gino Smith on this list because he's your boy. You don't like to kill your babies.

There is a chance. Geno Smith gets cut if and when Rine's Fitzpatrick gets signed by the Jets. Because he's a malcontent. You know who my source is for Gino Smith not getting cut? How about the New York Jets? Because when they send out a tweet yesterday, Sunday, Seven Sundays away, hashtag jet up. Let's get ready for the season.

Who does the tweet have? A big photo of Gino Schiff. They're starting quarterback. That's just some millennial running their social media account. That's not inside information. Wes's theory is great. The other theory is that this is another bargaining tactic. Hey, Fitz, check out our Twitter.

We move an on, boy. Right. So, you know, let's come down with that. That tweet is just a mirror on a team that is in total chaos. Here's a thing. If Ryan Fitzpatrick signs, Gino Smith is by far the second best quarterback on that team, it's not that close, and he doesn't cost that much money, why would they be cutting their second best quarterback?

They're going to want to back up another option. Or if they're a team that only wants two quarterbacks. I mean, Bryce Petty is a logical chopping block subject matter person. He's the key to it, so I get why he's there. But we need to know how much the organization believes that Petty can be developed. You know, if you cut ties with Bryce Petty, you are giving up on a fourth round pick last year that never took a snap. Well, you went out and drafted Christian Hackenberg.

I think that's pretty damning for Bryce Petty. Well, plus he could make it through to the practice squad. Maybe no one will claim him. He's a fourth round pick. I'm sure there's been lots of fourth round picks cut from that draft already. They don't make headline news because they're not quarterbacks, but it happens. Right. So we'll see.

Greg the Legs Erline also on your list. Where are you getting that one? Well, he's been. He's struggled. He had like a 65% conversion rate last year. So that kind of makes sense. Charles Johnson, that is a Sessler's boy in Minnesota, a very bad. It's a shot at Mark.

Yeah, I take it as a shot. So why is Charles Johnson deserved to be on the team after what we saw last year, Mark? Well, no, he did not. First of all, every once in a while, you're doing the lead piece, and the player almost takes it personally and underperforms to stick it at you. And that's what Charles Johnson did. And I, you know, listen, you have a famous Gerhard incident of two. That's right. Check out this line under Charles Johnson.

Learning special teams as an NFL player is like learning computer science in 1994. Not even sure with that, Greg. It's a banger from Greg. I think Greg is not in the wrong here. I mean, he disappointed last season. They drafted Lequan Treadwell in the first round. You've got Stefan Diggs. I mean, he's not a one or two guy there.

Well, right now he is. But for this very moment, he's ahead of Treadwell because he's a veteran. Well, that is for mere weeks. If he lose the starting job, how is Charles Johnson not a special team's player, by the way? You got to get good at special teams unless you're a star. Because you lose your job, it'll be off the team. Well, that could be great, though, because I was annoyed that the Vikings snatched when Norv Turner went to Minnesota, snatched Charles Johnson off the Browns,

as the Browns have done with the Packers. But now you get Josh Gordon back. If the Vikings go forward with Greg's advice and cut, you get Charles Johnson back. None of this is my advice. It's a preview of training camp with some players to watch. Get those 2013 Browns, get the band back together, you know, go six and ten, have a good year. Justin Hunter on this list, I can't fathom a scenario where we talk about this guy, but does anybody have anything about Justin Hunt?

These guys had a making a leap piece about him where they had sort of a he said he said. Oh, yeah, Greg and I disagreed violently on Justin Hunter. Who was right? I was. I said he can't catch a pass if anybody breathes on him. Yeah, well, I came up with something to say here. They have an interesting slot. They have the one toolsy guy who drives them absolutely crazy at a time.

It was once Kenny Britt, he was replaced by Justin Hunter, who has now been replaced by Doriel Green Beckham. So that means Hunter's gone. That's excellent analysis, boss. Aaron Dobson, who had a nice rookie seat with Pat's a few years back. He's been the target of, quote, too many incomplete deep throws. You know, don't look at the agent quarterback there. And then finally, Margus Hunt.

Yeah, the guy who almost won the MVP. Let's claim it on him. Not a deep ball expert at this stage. Margus Hunt, a hard-knock star from Estonia with a killer Drago impression. Always was big and strong and quick, but has never put it all together. And Greg says, hey, that might mean the end of the road for you, buddy. Back to Estonia, you go. Well, I hope I'm wrong with that one.

He was a likable. He was a likable guy. I'm looking at my Twitter feed here and your article just got a like from. Honey Badger But I think you're going to get some angry tweets from other players seeing their name on this list You've kind of gone right at them Or just not even anger, just hurt

Hurt You're telling me that my career could be over basically You're advising teams on what to do I'm not doing any of those things What Mark said Hey, you're a fan of the football You interested in getting a preview of cuts Greg, these players might be available

That's fine, you're saying From a very cold robotic angle there But there's a human element to what you've done Yeah, Greg just hides behind his keyboard. The first thing of Cruz is saying how much everyone likes them. Everyone's rooting for Victor Cruz, but sometimes the facts, you know, the rubber meets the road. So you can read all of this at NFL.com slash bubble bangers. Type that, see where that takes you.

Make sure you don't do it at work. I don't think it has a special one, but you can go slash Rosenthal if you want. Oh, yeah, NFL.com slash Rosenthal to see not just that, but all. of Greg's work. Now they stepped away from a managerial role to focus on his writing and performing in front of a camera

will now be able to use that that URL as a guide. Is he actually... Yeah, I mean, sort of a fireball at this point. We should change it to NFL.com slash Greg's bangers instead of Rosenfeld.

I like that. All right. That's it for Monday's show. We will be back on Wednesday with another show and then another show on Thursday after that. So yeah, we're back.

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