NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Quarterback Island: Who are the 10 Defining QBs in the NFL?

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Jourdan Rodrigue, Colleen Wolfe and Steve Wyche for the latest installment of Quarterback Island! Find out which ten quarterbacks are defining the position in the NFL in 2025. Will Patrick Mahomes (07:28), Brock Purdy (14:30), Jalen Hurts (16:10), Baker Mayfield (21:10), Jared Goff (27:20), Justin Herbert (31:00), Caleb Williams (34:50), Bo Nix (37:30), Daniel Jones (41:30), or Jordan Love (47:00) get a spot on the Island? Listen to find out! Note: time codes approximate.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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this is quarterback island yes Island Season 2, episode 3. Yeah. Thank you to Randy Chavez, our former producer for that outstanding open. One of my favorite days of the year is when we can get these four people together, especially at this point of the season when things get a little tough. Little murky. Yes, the people have been asking for it. Where's quarterback island?

When's quarterback island? It's today, guys. This is interesting because after what we've seen, is it truly now a quarterback-driven league or is it a tight-end driven league or a defense-driven league? Oh, please. It's always a quarterback-driven league. I don't know. Some of those guys impacting the quarterbacks might have a say in that. The voice you hear, of course, is the man, Steve Weish.

That I. The captain of NFL Network. I like to think of him. Oh, captain, my captain. That's Jordan Rod Rieg, co-executive producer of quarterback. Island and originator. And Colleen Wolf, of course. She's here, too.

We're setting sail with Steve White as the captain. I guess I'm aboard. And Colleen's here too. She'll try to keep Jalen Hertz on at some point. It'll be fun. Actually, no. Oh, okay. So here's a deal.

If you haven't listened to quarterback island. All right. Before we decide who are the quarterbacks that are defining the position this season as of yet. And we left 12 quarterbacks on the island when we last talked. And so I will mention who the quarterbacks on the island were way back in week six or so when we last did this. It's Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff, Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert, Sam Darnold, Drake May, Matthew Stafford, Daniel Jones, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hertz.

How smart did we look? That's a hell of a 12 right. I was thinking about it. We could have come. We could have come back like a week or two ago. And yet everyone was just playing so well. It didn't almost feel like there was as much to talk about. The guys who were voted on to the island, for instance, last time around,

Darnold, May, Stafford, and Daniel Jones. You know, when we did our half-season MVP, we're talking about all those guys. So this will be a very interesting show. and I will start it just by announcing that not as many people are staying on the island. That's fair. Oh, you mother fucker, I knew it. You're shrinking the number of people on the island.

We called it, Steve. It's almost like you had to. A new wrinkle? I mean, you guys were literally here a year ago when we did it in the exact same time period. The island shrinks. It does? Global warming.

Exactly. Erosion? God. No, H-O-A-R-E-A. People are leaving because they can't afford the HOA and the insurance cost. Shout out to the Santa Monica cliffs, you know, hanging strong, but it's just like they're a little smaller. Every year, the beach is getting a little smaller.

My spidey sense was going. It was this around this time last year where Greg unilaterally decided to shrink the island. It was the right move. This is also the right move. But I knew it. I knew it. You hit it so well. I kept saying, I know you've got something coming.

Okay. I thought of going from 12 all the way down to 8. But then that felt a little dramatic. That's crazy. It'll be down to 10. And so we will decide who gets kicked off out of the islanders now. And if anyone knew, we'll be coming on to the island. So much for that 50-year mortgage.

And there is one little extra thing. Oh, great. It's more of a clarification for me. Jordan, explain to the listeners what a rip cord is. Because honestly, I couldn't quite remember. Is it taking someone off or putting someone on? I thought it was a riptide. Riptide.

Yes. Once again, it is called a riptide. Ripped cords, when you jump up an airplane with a scene called the period. Nobody ever remembers. And you halt the rick gorge. Everyone remembers. Everyone remembers, Greg. Eric did not correct me this morning when I brought this up.

Okay. And so what is a riptide? A riptide is a person can unilaterally use one riptide per season of quarterback island to pull someone off the island without a vote. and they have to be off. Interesting. Yes. Okay.

And it's just taking away. It's not bringing someone. It is. Let's get to it. The group would have to decide who then comes on, but the person who uses the riptide. Rip it off. Washes away somebody off the island. It just makes sense.

Ripcord opens the parachute. Yeah, like if you're skydiving into the island. Do you know what a riptide is? It's when you're suddenly just vanished, floating away. I got to swim parallel to. Yes. I felt being. I felt that once out in Hawaii.

Yeah. They're no joke. They're no joke. Listen to those lifeguards when they say. And yet you can't remember. Let's talk. Usually I talk about at the very top of the show, just to, you know, we got to move along here. We'll start with like the big four and be like, all right, these quarterbacks are on the island.

We don't really need to discuss them. Does anyone disagree? And those four over time have been Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, and Joe Burrow. Now, Joe Burrow was kicked off the island because he was hurt last time around. He's still hurt, so he's not on. But when I was thinking about it today, I do feel like we're in a little bit of a different place with these guys. Ultimately, you guys can tell me if you disagree. I did actually come up with a big five.

A big five. Okay. Like the sneaker. But I do think we could talk about these guys a little bit anyways. Okay. And so it's still Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and Patrick Mahomes, who are not having their best seasons. and we can talk about that and then I threw on

Matthew Stafford and Drake May as big big five yeah no problem with that yeah I'm good with that especially you know the latter two guys being in the MVP conversation shout out to Patrick Claibon you know Drake May is playing unconscious football

right now I think he'd be my choice right now yeah I mean he's leading the NFL and passing yards with a passing yards and a 72 percent completion rate. And these are not just dump-offs. Right. This is not true brief completion rate.

He drives, yes. It is really insane. We're 11 weeks into the season, and it's a pretty, like, not a hot take to be like, Drake May is playing quarterback the best of anyone in the NFL. That's crazy. You could come up with other options,

but I think that's the right answer. You know, I thought Mahomes of these three was the one I... Just for a second was like, should we talk Patrick Mahomes? Because he's coming off one of the worst two-game stretches. he's had in a long time.

Well, I mean, he got lit up by Denver. I mean, Denver really caused him some problems, but that was a bad pick. You threw to McMillan there, you know, as they were threatening. But still, for the most part, when you watch it, he's still trying to figure out, okay, who's going to be open on this play?

His offensive line hasn't been consistent. With that said, he still makes most of the games look easy. He still makes playing the position look easy. Whereas you saw someone like Jared Gough, the other day against Philadelphia was like, oh my gosh. Yep. You know, but I have no problem with Patrick Mahomes.

But also the Bill's game, too, that he struggled in that one. Yeah, he did. Midily, his accuracy. He didn't throw a touchdown, I don't think, in that game. No, I think that was his stinker, though. He's a little off. Like, when they're getting to the end of these games, I'm starting to just lose a little bit of faith that they're going to make the right place to win him because they're not.

Like, he doesn't have a fourth quarter comeback or a game winning drive this season. There are times, like, I think, of the last, it might have been their last offensive play, where he holds the ball, he doesn't throw it to Bershard Smith, like, fast enough. That wasn't their last play. He got sacked on the last play, where it was a weird play call.

They were setting verticals. And he's, like, not trusting his receivers. No. That said, I didn't want to get too carried away. He was maybe my MVP three weeks ago, so I didn't want to get too carried away. My thought was, when I was looking at him and the lack of rhythm and consistency with this offense,

the last time we did this, four weeks ago, I guess. We had Lamar Jackson on the list. We kept him on the island just because of precedent. And I think that holds true for Patrick Mahomes as well. So he's not in the body of work. He's the fight. That's why I don't even feel like we need to vote.

But some flags are there. If he had a better run game, I think you'd also be, I mean, he's always existed sort of as this singular like unicorn entity. But we are talking about how, yeah, you really need to get him a better run game. It is really weird. He is, like, fourth right now in EPA per dropback still in the NFL. But he actually has a lower quarterback rating than Mac Jones by, like, two points. And is one of the only guys under 100 that we're going to talk about today.

So it's just really in Congress, kind of weird that, you know, he's just no idea. His numbers are all over the place. Like, he's third in QBR and 20th in PFF's grading. And I think part of that is the running helps out your QBR. Yes. But he's just missed a few throws. But let's be real. All three of them, this is the worst month they've ever had at the trail.

Lamar's not playing great. Josh Allen's made a lot of mistakes. Lamar's playing okay, but he's coming off one of his worst games in a long time. He's not running the ball nearly as well. And since he's come back from his injury, he's just been like pretty good. I think he's managing that injury. I think he's managing. And Cleveland always gives him hell.

Like when you, if you go back and you look at the games he's played against the Browns, he has never really like eating them up. So that's a weird division. matchup he just did not play well against consistently and i know you know when josh allen was doing that push pass from his own end zone early last week eric and all the bills fans were like can we get josh allen out of this freaking slump and then you know he scores god they go six yeah six touchdowns okay so that we've got he's like i'm not selling my property on the island no way what a world that like uh that drake may and in stafford are just

no brainers one of the youngest starters in the league and the not the oldest because erin roger is still around, but almost... But the crazy thing with Drake May, he's been sacked more than, like, any quarter. He's been sacked 36 times. And I think that's a negative somewhat on him. Although, I saw some crazy stat that, like, his percentage of stacks that are within a yard or two

of the line of scrimmage is way higher than any quarterback in the league. And you do notice that watching the Patriots, that he sort of just gives... It's almost like it's a coaching point. They told him just, like, give up on the play and just, like, go forward and, like, lie down, which... Okay. Tom Brady did that.

They don't want catastrophe. The other two options are you take a huge loss or you fumble the ball, which has been an issue. So I do think that's a coaching point from them. I love it. That's five guys on the island. There's only five spots to go. At this point in the proceedings, though,

we will just go through. I'm just going to quickly run through all the guys that I don't think are even worth talking about today. So these are just like the other guys that are out there in the league going through each team. You know, Tua hasn't been a great year. Obviously, not talking about the Jets quarterback. Nothing with the Browns.

Aaron Rogers, by the way, might not play this week. He's missing practice Wednesday, possibly Thursday, Friday. Mike Tomlin says it's going to be a big day for him. They might be going to Mason Rudolph. Obviously not a conversation to make the island. Davis Mills or C.J. Stroud hasn't been healthy. Trevor Lawrence is... Stroud's out.

Strouds out Thursday. He's out Thursday. They've already declared it. That's rough news for them. Shudder Sanders and Dylan Gabriel, obviously, out of conversation, Cam Ward, and then Gino Smith, who we will keep, and I'm sick of hearing from everyone, we're keeping them in that opening saga. Because he was part of the quarterback island story.

I'm just sick of him on Island game. He's not on the island, everyone. You might have to change the sound after Monday night. You may have to change the sign like, oh, your kids don't do well at school. Blame me. That is an amazing quote. That is just like anything that happens, just blame me in life. Gino Smith.

Joe Flacko would have been an interesting kind of talk about before last week. Yeah. Like the numbers were pretty outstanding. In the NFC, you know, James and Jackson Dart, no conversation there, nothing with Washington. Obviously, Jane Daniels has been hurt and JJ McCarthy, oof, Atlanta, Michael Pennix. I'm a little disappointed neither Pennix nor Young nor Lawrence, for instance, ever even got into the conversation of getting on to quarterback island, although Bryce is coming off. a great game. Tyler Shuck is a cross-off the entire Cardinals situation with Jacoby respect, despite that record that he set. And Brock Purdy's just back into it. So I think

it's too new. It's too early to talk. So those are the guys that we won't even talk about. Respect them all. Now, I'll throw it to Colleen. Why not? Let's start the real deal. So wait, wait, wait. Are we going to trim or are we going to stay with the guys? Well, now basically, there's five guys that are up for grabs that are on the island. And there's other guys we could potentially nominate. Caleb Williams, Jordan Love, Bo Nix, are some quarterbacks I didn't mention. And so it's really like those eight guys, unless you guys want to throw out anyone that I haven't mentioned, for those five spots. So I think, Colleen, why don't you throw someone out for discussion and say whether you want to kick them off or not?

Initially, I was thinking that we would bring Brock Purdy into the conversation. Okay. Do you want to? Well, if we're talking about how we did leave Lamar Jackson on the island before and we're leaving Patrick Mahomes on the island now, despite all of the red flags with his play, Brock Purdy, before he was hurt, played really well. And now he came back. It's only one game, one sample size. But the offense just looked, the guys looked so much more comfortable in their places. and it was, I felt like he really brought George Kittle alive and Christian McCaffrey alive and everything flowed a little bit better.

But if you guys don't want, if you want to wait and kind of just give that a little asterisk, then that's fine. Yeah, those other guys that you mentioned, like Lamar and Mahomes and whatnot, those are two of the greatest quarterbacks of all. And the other one is Brock Purdy. And he didn't even play that well. I will push back a little bit early, early in the season. He's fine. I had to deal with this on Sunday. Let's calm down.

They got to a much more complicated. version of their offense with Brock Purdy to Colleen's very good point. But here's why we can't grandfather Brock in is because Cooper Rush should not play well for Lamar. You know, the guys who came in for the injured players should not play well, Mac Jones

did this thing a little bit. You know, I'm not saying because... Where does that look us with Mac Jones? Brock Purdy's played... He's in a boat. Three games. Brock Purdy's played three games this year, and in two of them he's thrown multiple interceptions and did not look great, I would say we just won and two.

And look at the opponent. I mean, he carved up We got another vote before the end of the season, so I think that's a candidate. He can earn his way on. All right, then, Colleen, I want you to throw off. All right, I could throw someone off, try to throw someone off the island. Throw someone off the island. Okay, you want me to just throw Jalen Hertz under the bus, which, as someone from Philadelphia, the way that we show love is by booing people, is by telling people what is maybe wrong with them,

what they need to fix. That's the kind of our love language. And the inconsistencies that we've seen with this offense and specifically Jalen Hertz has been considerable when I feel like the bi-week sort of messed up and Patrick Clavon is obviously in my head. Their momentum. But he looked, he hit his peak in week seven and eight.

Things were rolling. The offense looked good. They were passing the ball and moving it really well. He had combined for seven touchdowns and zero interceptions in those two games. Then the buy week happened and then Green Bay happened where everything noticeably dipped. He only threw for one touchdown. His passer rating dropped to 92.3. They still got the win.

But then against Detroit, a season low, 50% completions on his passes for just 135 yards. He didn't produce a touchdown in that game. They had to rely on the run. a 63.8 passer rating. This is not something that has just popped up either. This is something that they have been dealing with the Eagles since the beginning of the season, the up and down nature of this offense.

Now, is that the play caller or is that the quarterback? Well, the only thing we can really measure is how the quarterback runs the offense, and right now it is too up and down and they're relying on their defense, so I don't think he should be on the island. That's a very legit argument, Especially if we're trimming.

That's a very legitimate argument. This just makes him better. This is motivation for him to get back on the island. Get back out there. Let's get that passerating up. He just got too comfortable, right?

We famously left him off the island to wrap up last regular season. And then he did what he does, which is go on one of the best playoff runs any quarterback could. Right. This is all a part of Colleen's plan. Master plan.

This whole thing where he, like, talks about wanting to be Jordan and all that matters is winning and this and that. Like, it seems like like like a little bit corny. And also it's like, okay, Jalen, Jalen Hertz is not. And then, are you saying it's getting into like Russell Wilson territory? No, what I'm going to say is then, and then you think about his career and you think like he has literally played his best football games by far in the biggest spots, which is like, that's some Jordan stuff. Yeah. But we got a, we got a grade on the regular season. I don't know if it's that tough of a decision.

I don't think it's tough because, I mean, over on their whole offense hasn't been good. Now Lane Johnson's out for a month. Derek Gunn, who is... D-Gone? Okay. Give a little context of who he is

sort of in the Philly sports culture. Derek Gunn is a legend. We work together for many, many years. He works at the regional sports network. He is very in on everything that's happening with the Philadelphia Eagles, specifically, but all Philly sports. But he is a non-

icon. Kind of an insider's insider. And he said on television after the last game that lots of people in the Eagles are frustrated with the quarterback situation. And when I heard that and he said it's frustrating to the coaching staff and to the players, extremely frustrating to the players. Because when they look at the film the next day or the days later, they see what's out there, what should have happened.

Basically, the throws that he's not making. So unfortunately, he is getting those Ws. He's a good quarterback. But I don't think he's violent. And of all the things that, you know, have emerged as frustrating within the Philadelphia Eagles organization, for this, after all of this time, for this to come out and be sort of this not so open secret anymore, I think, says a lot about what they're leaving on the table there. It's like a much handsomer version of what happened with Carson Wentz, you know, six years ago. So they're the number one seat in the NFC. We are voting the quarterback.

I'm voting no for him to be on quarterback. Oh, okay. So you have a yes sign. Wait. We're voting you're voting off. You have to get a note. Yeah, Greg, Greg did give, like, he didn't give a. Saying yes, he's voted off.

No. Vote no. Yeah, bye. At this point, if we're voting for the guys again. I'm like, it's easy for you guys to keep him on the island? I thought, I'm reading this room wrong. Overthought it there, Colleen. No, we either vote them on or not.

The players that are on the island that we still will be voting on today at some point. are Jared Goff, Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert, Sam Darnold, and Daniel Jones. So those guys will all be discussed at some point. And anyone else that you guys want to nominate, we still have five spots to go. Do you want to kick anyone off, Jordan? Want is doing a lot of heavy lifting. But I feel that I must because I have been the number one supporter of this quarterback outside of Matthew Stafford this entire season. And that is Baker Mayfield.

Yeah. Wow. So here's the thing. Baker Mayfield was playing, and I don't care how tacky it is to have this discussion too early in the season, but he was playing at an MVP clip. And he was playing some of the best quarterback of any quarterback in the NFL. He was like, you know, setting up businesses on the island at this point.

You know, he was supposed to be there, right? But the last few weeks, and that is the sample size that I'm looking at here textually, since our last vote, Baker Mayfield has not been rolling. And it's in part, and we're not going to either punish or reward a guy for this. We've been really good about this for the entire, I think since quarterback island has existed, we've been really good at not punishing a guy for injuries elsewhere on the team or whether the system is uplifting or whatever. But he does have a healthy offensive line through this time period,

and he did not through that first portion of play. And still, he is not playing consistent football. He has under a 50% success rate. So, in fact, he's a 43% success rate on passing plays. He is behind all of these guys who are even in consideration for the island. And some guys who are not in consideration for the island in EPA per dropback. And he has a 97 quarterback rating, passer rating. And so I feel like this is, it's just time.

It's time. And he can come back on. And knowing Baker Mayfield a little bit, you know, he has a chip on his shoulder, you know what he's going to do? This is going to try to fight his way back in. But if we're cutting it, especially, even if it was 12, I probably wouldn't have him on. So cutting it down to 10, certainly I think we got to vote Baker Mayfield off quarterback

Island. I thought this was going to be a tougher conversation. Oh, it hurts my soul. I mean, you guys and your precious Baker, I mean, we got to make a new drop. Baker ball. Keep stop rolling, baby! We got to make it. Keeps on rolling, baby!

It's Baker Ball! Stop! Oh, no. Keeps on rolling, baby! Oh, my God, it's horrible. We need to come up, you need to, like, put her voice into it where it's like, Baker Ball, not... Wait, I don't know how it would work.

Doesn't keep rolling, baby! Really good idea, strong idea, Greg. Is not... Keeps on rolling, baby. I was like, oh, the tense is really going to mess me up here. he had a good game against the Patriots and I thought that things were going to maybe start to trend back up

but then against the bills that was another tough outing although his mobility looked better because I guess he's getting a little healthier but it's just not consistent and part of it and again I have to be fair and evaluate him in a vacuum and yeah I think it does should go

should not go unsaid that yeah he's still dealing you know his first his top two receivers Mike Evans Chris Godwin still haven't been there but still some of the tape when you watch of him, guys are open and he's not hitting them or there's inconsistencies. I think

he will write the ship, R-Mady, so to speak. Our Mady. But I also feel like for this portion of time that we're evaluating for quarterback Island, like I would vote him off. I don't think he's playing terribly, but because we do have to shrink and you see the other people on. I mean, that to me is the criteria

because he still, to me, could lead a lot of teams. He hasn't had Bucky Irving around for a lot of the run game. The whole offense as a whole has gotten a little bit inconsistent, but part of it's because Baker has not been great, but he'll rally. I think the Patriots game is a great example because there were guys, like, they're just throws that he's not making. Right. You look at, that's the eye test, then

you look at the numbers, which you talked about, like 17th in EPA, 13th in QBR, 19th in PFF, just a lot of like turnover-worthy plays. He could come back. I could easily see Sunday Rams. Like, that's, That's the game where Baker starts making it happen and makes Jordan feel a certain way while she's there covering the game. I know. I'm so excited.

That is the game. Baker Mayfield was the hinge point that basically pulled the Rams football. Thursday night football. I'll never forget that. Out of the emotional depths. Wasteland and Baker Mayfield comes to town. And it's like a bolt of sunshine. Here's a little story about that because they got him on like a Monday, right?

On a Tuesday. On a Tuesday. Uh-huh. And remember there's center, Brian Allen. He used to walk around barefoot. Angry center. So I saw him before kickoff. I was like, is Baker going to be able to start?

He's like, he has to because he's the only guy on the roster who can throw a forward pass. Oh, my God. And then Baker comes in and leads him to the late victory over the Raiders. And then it's on and popping from there. Like the whole rebirth of Baker started that night. All right. So let's vote on Baker, Mayfield. I vote no.

You go. I'm sorry, Baker. Everyone holding up a big fat now. So we're at 10, we're at 10, Greg. Cross-off. Okay. Rosie math, we're at 10. We're at five that are on.

That's true. Okay, five that are on. And we've only kicked two off. So even under that math that you said, yeah. Yeah. I just want to point out that Colleen and I just demonstrated some emotional bravery just now are guys that we petitioned to kick off the island. I just want to say, profile. I was in courage right now.

And also, that Baker was Weich's guy, too. Yeah. Yeah. So we're all, really, I think, stepping up. We're owning this. I'm annoyed because I wanted to be able

to use the riptide on them and it's not even necessary. There you go. You could save it. We took away your rip cord. All right, Steve, you could bring up someone to cement on the island or to kick off.

It's easy to cement guys. That's it? I don't know. Yeah, I think the guys on here, it's easy to cement a dude on here. There's some guys, you know, we're not going to... But I think one is that's legitimately up for conversation. It's Jared Goff. Okay. You know, he's...

He had the disastrous game against Philadelphia, but that's what Philadelphia's doing the teams right now. So we'll see if he bounces back. But just kind of based on who we have left on here, I think Jared might be the most vulnerable. There's one more on here. that I could see but they haven't been

now the offensive line has been an issue I mean as much of a dominant offensive lines it used to be and Greg we were talking about Panay-Soole for MVP he hadn't had the best couple weeks and the rest of the offensive line has not been great but when I'm looking at potential

cuts here and this is just a numbers game so to speak right we're at we've got to get to the final 53 so to speak we've got to the final 10 I would say Jared Gough and if not Jared Goff, Dak. I mean, I just can't see. Let's talk Goff now, and maybe we'll table it

and see if anyone would lift up to potentially pass him. The case against him is, you know, you watch him in a game like that and you think about his limitations, you know, against pressure. There's always such a dramatic difference when you look at his stats, the EPA per player, or whatever it is, and he's top five when he's clean, and he's outside the top 20 when he's pressured.

You want a quarterback that can maybe survive a little better. The weather situation, like, he's had some bad games and bad weather. And then you look at just overall this year, like, if we're going to give him extra credit for when they're winning a lot, they're six and four right now. And his stats are a little all over the place. Some are good. Eighth in EPA per dropback. Some are bad.

15th in QBR, 21st in PFF's grading. And that's traditionally something he does pretty well. And so when I look at him, like, he's always been a little bit of a limited quarterback, and I think partly so affected by what's around him. And I think that's the case now because what's around him is not as good. So I'm struggling with how much to punish him for that. He seems like he's on the edge. He, that Jared Gough reminded me of the Jared Gough that played the Patriots in the Super Bowl. And I feel like they sort of did some of the same things the Eagles did in terms of pressure.

We talked about this. Oh, you are the one who told me about this. McFandia runs a defense that the model that the bears ran when they absolutely took apart the Rams and then the Patriots Bill Belich copied it. So I went back and watched and you're exactly right, which was fascinating to me. But then I'm like, okay, in terms of the island, I don't want recency bias to completely affect my vote here, how he did against the Eagles, when you compare it to. how he played against Washington the week before.

He was so efficient. And yes, that's a totally different defense and a completely different team. But yes, he's been inconsistent recently, but prior to that, he's been really good and leading the most high-powered offense. I think since we last taped the episode,

he has not been an island-worthy type of quarterback. I think even in the win against the bucks, like not an amazing game, the loss to the fight. Like, he's probably had the worst five or stuff. five weeks or so since we've seen. I kind of want to table him. Let's table him.

What do you mean? Because the old line has not been great. It just has not been great. All right. Let's actually get more people on the island. Okay. Like in terms of who's staying. And, you know, you're leading with who you feel the most in your guys' souls.

I will too. Let's do Justin Herbert. Does anyone have a big argument against Justin Herbert? Zero. No, and I feel terrible for him, in fact. Okay. Frankly, I feel distraught on his behalf. I thought because, you know, I try to take a little bit of emotion out.

And when you do look at all these numbers that I keep quoting, like EPA per play, success rate, QBR, PFF, his profile is okay. You know, it's not great. It's outside the top 10 and everything except for PFF, which is a little closer to what I think most people would say are like eyeball test grading every quarterback just on a play to play basis. But, man, going into last week, I thought he had a. pretty good at like case as the best quarterback in the NFL this year. I know that seems crazy. Last week was brutal, but I'm not going to kill him that much for one terrible. His team didn't play well in that offensive line, which is not great right now, absolutely broke down last week. Their defense didn't play well for the first time in a long time.

But, you know, we can talk all the analytics, the PFFs, everything when it comes to Justin Herbert. When you watch that dude play, all right. Like, that is, like, that's a guy. Like, we talk about playing the position of the way it's supposed to be played he is, there's no way in hell you can't consider him a top five or six QB. Also, there's a difference between not holding

someone's lack of tools around them or offensive line or play call or whatever. There's a difference between not holding that against them for or against them and what Justin Herbert's dealing with right now. Trevor Penning was at left tackle. Like, what are we doing? What are we doing? And he's

going to be there. All right, everyone. I want an audible Yes. Yes, he belongs. You are in the emergency exit row. I need a verbal yes from each one of you. Yes. Are you willing and able? And shout out to Justin Herbert's brother, Ben is it? Did not know you were in the NFL on the Jaguars practice squad.

Retirene is? A mustache. It's Patrick. Patrick Herbert. Yeah, Ben Herbert's the Chargers Strength Coach. Okay. It was in this subconscious somewhere. Who knew? Let's take a break.

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We just want it all quarterback island. I'll be at the game, too. This is a tightly run ship. We do have some news. And it's actually time for our news of the day, presented by Olive Garden's never-ending soup or salad and breakfast. Soup? We love soup. Who would want the fruit?

It's on us with every entree. news here, it's actually part of quarterback island. Baker Mayfield and Jalen Hertz have been kicked off quarterback island. And what people don't realize is quarterback island, for the most part, it's pretty sparse, it's pretty

spare, the guys are just hanging out. But there actually is an olive garden there. Hell of you. Awesome. They can get all the soup they want and breadsticks. So like Baker and Hertz, like no more never ending soup and salad and breadsticks for you. I bet Matthew Stafford just loves a nice broth, you know.

Like a bone broth. Yeah, like really... He looks like I'm an Italian wedding guy. Nourishing, you know? Oh, yeah. You know, what do you think? Good stuff there. I'm excited that we're able to, like, introduce some more food to the guys.

I'm starving. They were getting hungry. I'm starving, too, which means, all right, let's keep going. I'm just going to throw out a name that I don't think has a good chance to make the island, but I just wanted to bring him up. And that's Caleb Williams. Ooh, I was thinking that you might bring him up. I'm not making the case for him.

I'm just pointing out that he's... Conversation. He's gotten into the quarterback island conversation with, I think, the ability to make plays on his own and not make mistakes. That's an intoxicating combination for a quarterback. He's not doing everything at the highest of levels, I think maybe to get over and get onto the island.

But the combination of wow plays and a real lack of negative plays is a great, like, foundation for him to build off. Yeah, and I mentioned this a couple weeks ago, but I think that also Ben Johnson's doing a better job of unclenching a little bit in terms of there are times when it is so beneficial to turn on like the superhero type of plays and the out-of-structure plays. But there's also the when they aren't sort of turning that valve,

you can tell Caleb Williams has improved in a lot of different areas. He's playing calmer in those. plays. He's seeing the middle of the field, especially a lot better, in my opinion. And that's, all of those things are crucial to what Ben Johnson wants to do on offense. And now also him as a play caller, finding that balance of when to like kind of be a little freer with it. I think those things just come with time and you're starting to see that come together a little bit. Yeah, I think too, if you just go back and look at his recent performances, obviously week eight against the Ravens. He had that interception. But against the best.

Bengals. He had three touchdowns. He also caught a touchdown himself. So that was historic. He's the only quarterback on quarterback island or in the conversation of quarterback island who I think has done that so far. We have to look that up. Oh. That's like that's got to be worth a raft. I think so. Got to be worth a 40 at least. But I also look at his the game winning drive against the giants as being a step of growth. And I think that we can see measurable growth from him and development every single week and it feels like he right now

is a totally different quarterback than the quarterback we saw start the season with Ben Johnson. Totally agree. So I'm going to vote no on Caleb Williams even though I brought him up but I just wanted... It's a good, it's a good it's a real good conversation. Like pack a bag, Caleb, you might have to use it. This is kind of a pat on the back, Caleb, that quarterback

island we're scouting you. You know? Yes. I might have a spot at the Olive Garden you know. I'm voting no, but I hereby award him a touchdown float. That's great. All right. Steve, why don't you conversation piece?

Okay. Conversation piece. My guy, Bo Nix. Okay. We can sit there and talk about, oh, he's not this, he's not that. Fourth quarter, who do you want running your team? Sean Payton. Patrick Mahome. Sean Payton was running the other three, two. Justin Herbert. But I'm just saying,

Bo Nix is doing it. By the way, Bo Nix caught a touchdown pass last season. Oh. But, I mean, look at this. He's one of the same, he's a tough guy to evaluate because he plays out of structure, which has got to be driving Sean Payton, absolutely nuts. But that's where I think he's the most dangerous. When he can run on the move, he puts a defender in conflict,

and for whatever reason, late in games, he is on target with the ball. I don't know if he's an island guy when I see who's on here, but man, the width they're playing overall, The way that he hangs in there and plays now that R.J. Harvey has become kind of that dual threat running back. I think that's going to open up the offense a little bit more. I mean, I just want to put Bo Nix in this conversation, 10th leading passer. Maybe. Here's the case for Bo Nix.

He is helping to define this season. He is one of the centerpieces. And that is one of the. The late game rally? You can't tell the story of the 2025 NFL season without Bo NICS. I do think that he has at least worth talking about because of that. He's coming off his best game, so I don't want it to be recency bias. But he played well that whole game.

He outplayed Patrick Mahomes in that game and has had a lot of success against the Chiefs. He's in a better situation, obviously. I think his inconsistencies over the course of the season makes it tough. But I'm willing to table him for now and not even say, you know, what do you guys are. Inconcences are in the passing game. Like what he does on the move just changes a little bit. I know he had some dimes in that game. He played really well overall.

I know Eric is probably going crazy because we didn't follow the path this week and we haven't totally cemented too many people on. So I think that's why I want to table it for now. What do you guys think? We'll table it. What do we think about Eric's expression right now? Well, we have to clear a space too.

If we're going to put somebody on, we have to clear a space. Right. Well, we have to decide who is definitely on. Why don't you, Jordan, nominate someone you definitely want on the island? I don't think we should table guys anymore. I think that we should decide. Okay.

Let's get the process. I still want Sam Darnold on the island. He's on. Yeah. One game, we're all in agreement. Against, like, the demon in his closet, which is the Los Angeles Rams pass rush, does not a quarterback island remove. Like, I really think that. Agree.

Without this, I know it's, with Sam Darnold, the thing that we always get sucked into with him, and it's unfortunate for him because it's coming at the hands of the Rams every time is this recency bias of, oh, his last game affects. the conversation about Sam Darnold. We're not going to let that happen this time. He is the architect of the league's most explosive passing offense, so I definitely want him on the island. I will vote yes on Sam Darnold. I just wanted to punish him slightly by not putting him in that top five.

But you're right. He's probably number six. Yes, of course you wanted to punish him. Well, because look, I gave him, he was our official, and no one can ever take this away from him, our official NFL Daily, mid-season MVP this year. Now, since those two games, he's thrown five picks and fumble the ball twice. So he needs to, I know he played well enough against Arizona.

One of them came in, excuse me, four of those picks in one game. I'm going to go ahead and call that an outlier. He's getting a warning from the landlord on the island, is what we're saying. Yes. And here's the thing, the stuff he's doing, he's got the fewest attempts of like, like significantly by anybody who's on the island or even in consideration. So he's dealing. All right. Congratulations to say I'm done.

He's on. He's on. Colleen, anyone else you want to nominate to either discuss or just say is definitely on? However you want to frame it. Why don't we discuss a little, I'm looking through my people here. Let's discuss Daniel Jones. We've brought him up yet. And yeah, he's been a little inconsistent. Obviously, in Germany, he was sacked an unbelievable amount of times.

but he performed better than he did against Pittsburgh. The game against Pittsburgh for Daniel Jones was absolutely brutal. They warmed him up. Turn the ball over five times, three interceptions, two lost fumbles. He got sacked a ton. He had a little bit of a step forward in Germany. He performed a little better, but he still turned the ball over and was sacked a ton. The offensive line really struggled in this game.

But prior to that, if you look at weeks. seven and eight. He was super efficient and the ball security too was there. He had two of his best games of the season. He had really impressive passer ratings. Sure, it was against the Titans, one of those games

and the Chargers. Titans, man, that's a competitive football team as bad as they are, man. They're not the Raiders. They're chaos causers. Right. So Daniel Jones, you know how I feel about DJ. He's kind of the same way I feel about Sam Darnold. For me, he stays on the island.

but he's also getting a warning from the landlord. I think he's a trickier case because those two games were pretty brutal. You know, darn old I mentioned, it's five interceptions, two fumbles for the two games. For Daniel Jones, it's four interceptions and six fumbles.

No. And 12 sacks. At least one of those was a center snap exchange, which is really not his fault. But that's a lot. And even over the course of the season, now his rate stats are incredible. They make a strong case to, like, be on the island.

PFF, for instance, has him 18th, and that's on the more play-to-play kind of a little bit more of an eyeball test. So to me, eyeball test, I'm not sure it's a tough conversation between him and Goff and Jared Love, who, Jordan Love, who we have not gotten to for me. What we do is put Jonathan Taylor on the island. Yeah, that I do also want to point out that even when he's not blitzed, he's turning the ball over frequently. again without a blitz this season six of his interceptions so it's like okay if you're rushing for and it's cloudier in the back you want to

a quarterback has to make those pinpoint throws and do you know all that I think he's been incredible but these last two games have really really hurt him if we're looking at that sample size yeah but I mean again I look at everything like have they hurt them enough to get him off the island I don't

when I'm looking at this I don't see it not clear and use of evidence and part of it I mean the fumbles I hate, because that is something that is just with him. He's going to put the ball on the ground, and that's something, but... And against pressure, you know, only completing 60% of his passes, when any

pressure at all is coming toward him. Yeah. I mean, that's... That's not bad. Yeah, it's not like... It's not bad, but it's like you factor in the interceptions along with that. Sure. You know. But there's this, and this has to me, one of my factors into quarterback criteria, and it's an old saying,

if a quarterback is willing to jump in the pile for a fumble, that's a leader you want to have. And Daniel Jones has shown that. Take of the image of the bloody mouth looks like he had off. Oh, he's a fantastic leader. Right. So, again, I think with all of that, the fact that they're winning, despite some

of the other things you have going on and just we can talk about his inaccuracies here and there, but when he's on, man, I mean, he's sick. It's tricky for like what the exercise is really because he's still like eighth in EPA per play. He's second in success rate. And he's defining this year. He is helping to define

Yeah. Can we table them? Because I kind of want to have the conversation of who are the finalists. We're tabling? We're tabling one more guy. So how we might have. Let's see if we all agree. Let's see where we are with Dak Prescott.

Is there a big case against Jack Prescott right now? Jack should be on the next. Dach's on. Okay. Yes. That's on the island. Great. No issues here.

Great. We can speed it up there. Okay, Dax on. Great. Good job by Dack, by the way. You know, he's going to be a big part of the rest of the season. Speaking of leaders. Christmas and skivies.

Yeah. Thanksgiving and Sunday nights and just good on you. Listen, to have a team through the tragedy that they've just gone through, to be a captain and a leader for a team going through a loss like that, and it's unfathomable, really. And you could really tell him and Solomon Thomas and Brian Schottonhammer together how they had that group. Well, Dak and Sali went through it with family members of their own. Yeah.

You could tell after. when he was talking to SVP on the post-game show that, like, he was, he was so emotional about it, but he's just so emotionally intelligent. He's an intelligent quarterback in general, but that's a different measurement, and he was really speaking from the heart. I'm always so impressed when Dak Prescott speaks, and I have noticed to change. Life changes happen to you, and you change as a person. And since his brother committed suicide, and he spoke about that many times, he always, he always, he just attacks his job with the right perspective.

And by the way, how he's attacking it on the field is just a beauty. To me, he is the closest thing we have to, like, Peyton Manning. I had a been in the top five. And, yeah, and the way he deals the dynamic of the owner. Yep. Oh, he manages. Bingo. The owner just even realized he's being managed.

That's how well deck manages the owner. Okay. Let's talk Jordan Love because here's how I want to frame it now. I'm excited. Okay, we have eight guys are definitely on the island. already voted them on, which means, in theory, there's two spots available that Jared Goff and Daniel Jones are holding tenuously. I think Love for me, and then Bo Nix, we also talked about, are threatening to maybe take those two spots. And so I think that's how I wanted

everyone to think about it. It's those four guys now for two spots. And Jordan, you wanted to talk Jordan Love. So what do you got to say? Yeah, because I feel like we all know and see the lows are woo hoo buddy they are crazy some of the lows and some of the miss throws he's been hurt by drops

I would say more than one occasion and the highs there is no quarterback who can throw the ball like him on the little fadeaway shots 60 yards down the field there is no quarterback

who can be this young era of gunslinger like him we already pulled a young gunslinger and Baker Mayfield off the island. I want Jordan Love on representing the young gunslinger era in the NFL. He gives no Fs. I mean, he does. He cares quite a bit.

But he will take these risks and make these plays. And I think at times doing it despite the fact that he's got a great play caller, but one who just really wants to run the ball probably a little too much sometimes. And Jordan Love, when he is on, you have this feeling like anything is possible. Any throw is possible. And you notice, I'm not even saying stats because his stats are crazy because we've seen some truly atrocious play times from him this year. And he's still among the leaders in the league in EPA per dropback because of how productive the highs are. And I think he belongs on the island.

I think he is one of the players that define, especially through this difficult middle part of the season and the Packers having to figure out how to win these games that they are way too close in and way too consistent in. And he is a part of that as well, the inconsistency. But he is defining a part of this season where it is either, they are going to be a Super Bowl, true Super Bowl contending team or not. And he is a quarterback who at the highest of highs can be that guy. Yeah, at the highest of highs, you look at his performance against the Steelers, and he got NFC offensive player of the week. Those are the high moments.

But I just thought against the Giants, even though it wasn't a pretty game and he was playing through the shoulder injury and he had all of the drop passes, his leadership and his poise in that game for them to grind it out just speaks volumes of his intangibles too that he's bringing to the table. So I would consider having him on the side. I want him on. It's what I don't love him. That's the thing. When I watch him, I love his talent. I love his leadership. I love his toughness. But there's just something, and this is an eye testing. There's just something about his game where I just don't know if he is

is, you know, he's there. It's almost like how you were talking about with Daniel Jones. Like, I just don't know if the game had to come down to him. And part of that is with Tucker Kraft out of the lineup, they seem to have lost their daddy. Like, what do we do? They do, like, what are we doing off that? Like, how do we figure this out?

Where do we go? And that's where someone like a Josh Allen or someone was like, don't worry, we got this. and I don't know if I've seen that out of him now. Is that enough to pull off a Jared Goff and say, yeah, because Jared Goff has shown some of those same tendencies as well. But I don't know, Jordan Love is one of these guys. I love his talent so much and his toughness and everything,

but it's just a weird evaluation for me, just taking the numbers out of everything. I think, you know, people use game manager as a pejorative, but Lamar Jackson's one of the best game managers in the NFL. Like, great quarterbacks know when to do certain things. Right. I do think it's a fair criticism or at least place for development that Jordan Love, like, that's not his strength. Yeah, the last four weeks, I think are a good example of, like, the Jordan Love.

I don't think it's his play caller's strength either. Right. Well, that's... It's all tied together. Like, after that Pittsburgh game, I'm thinking, man, how did we not have Jordan Love on the island? Then the next two games, it's the Panthers and those Eagles games. And Jordan Love wasn't terrible in the Panthers game, but he left you want in a couple of game management situations, and the Eagles game was rough.

And you're like, okay, that's why Jordan Love's Not On it. And then the Giants game was one of the best quarterback games I thought of the entire season, despite his stats. He was incredible. So let's actually put a pin in it. We're going to take one final break. And on the other side, we will vote on all four quarterbacks who are colleagues. He's like, no more tabling and Greg dropped two on. I know.

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Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free at wasabi.com. Back for the final segment. Hold up, real quick. A quarterback island. Daddy's here, by the way. Daddy's not gone anywhere. No, no.

Colleen and Joy, will you explain this to me Every time you come back from break, I don't know if it's a nervous tick or whatever, but Greg is with this. I know, and he's almost hitting you every single house. I'm an arm swinger. You have to sit next to Greg. You got to have your head on a swivel. It's not a nervous ticket to and excited. There we go.

All right. He's like fanning. I would like to use it as a fan. Okay. Now when I watch the Packers all season, I'm just going to think Daddy's gone. Whenever they show Tucker Kraft on the side. Okay, we left off talking. Emotional dependence on Tucker.

sounds like me and my dog we left off talking about I guess one of Tucker Kraft's sons Jordan Love and I think it's time to bring up a vote and we'll do it one by one. Steve Weish your vote. Tell us away.

My vote is to know. I just I'm seeing some of the other quarterbacks who have been on the island and I just don't know if I could put them on over them. I am going to vote yes. Jordan made a convincing case. I I thought.

It's a trap somehow. It's a feel and it's a statistical case combined. And it's also, let's be honest, we have a certain amount that we got to fill. I think he deserves it more than Jared Goff personally. So I'm voting yes. Yes, I fully admit, as I mentioned in my argument, of some of the inconsistencies that we've seen. But Jordan Love belongs on quarterback island. It's about time also.

And I think that, you know, throw for throw. He is playing more unbelievably than some of the other quarterbacks that we're talking about, throw for throw. All right, Colleen. Okay. If I'm looking at the fact that we have two spots left and four quarterbacks, you've got to pick your two that you want. Golf, Jones, love, nicks. Out of those four, love goes on. That's a yes.

She had to know up in your hand. Oh, my gosh. Okay. We need to have. Slow-mo replay of that one. A new sponsor. Slow-mo replay of that one. We need to have like extra.

cameras in here so people can watch it live and anyone that was on the ISO Colleen cam was seeing the no, she was holding. I was like, oh, because then I looked at the list and the spots and... Wow. That was a Broto pull.

Guys, Broto. It's the best for all of your bros. Oh my God. Yeah. Now we're talking. Okay. And that was Quarterback Island, Episode 3, season 2.

Is your boy Bo getting on? Now I feel bad, because if we vote no on Bo Nix, which I'm going to, it almost feels disrespectful to Steve because he didn't want a lot. No, there's more of a season. There's more of a season. There's more of a season left. Yeah. I just don't think he's played

quarterback well. Like, I know the fourth quarter matters more, but ultimately, every play I want to be evaluated, and for the 11 weeks of this season, he falls short. That's fair. It's fair. But he's, like, the fact that he's even being talked about, that's a win. I'm voting no.

I'll vote now. I'll vote now. Okay. Yeah, I'm voting no on Bo. Okay. Because I want someone else on more. There's more season. Yeah.

Exactly. I'm saying no on Bo. Do you not want my vote, Greg? We had three. It's just kind of. Well, you know what? That's a bro-no. Right.

It's just like all of us who, you know, sent the mail-ins for Prop 50, but they put it out, you know, you sent it on Tuesday. It was like, I guess it, you know, it's going to take a while for them to even, like, count that vote. But it still counts in the end. Last two. It's a war. And it's going to be either Daniel Jones or Jared Goff getting kicked off quarterback island. Ooh.

I think you have the most emotionally at stake here, Colleen. So I'll let you talk about. This is a good one. Why don't you basically talk about the quarterback between those two you want? and then and then vote yes. Daniel Jones. I know. Between these two.

Yes. Because I need a tiebreaker, so to speak, I will go with the larger body of work and I will go with Jared Gough to stay. Wow. To stay on. Yeah. Okay.

Oh, like, ah, it's like the knife in my back. And let me twist it. Let me twist it a little more. As a DJ guy, I think about this year and I come back to that I hear what you're saying in terms of tiebreaker

like body work but my body work is 2025 Daniel Jones is defining the position in 2025 You guys are the ones who got me off Daniel Jones with all this turnover

and fumble and interception talk well we just were tabling them I truly didn't know how it was going to work out so he felt like someone that was right on the edge which we found out he is

But now it's come down, and there's two men, and I know who I prefer. I vote yes on Danny Dimes. It's not a prediction for the future. It's who's been doing it so far. And the highs, I think, have been higher than Jared. That explanation was all over the place, by the way. All of mine are. So are we voting on who are we voting?

Who are we voting on Daniel Jones? So I just decided I'm voting yes on Daniel Jones. Okay, so are we voting on Daniel Jones or golf? I know. No, I'll start him off. Okay, Daniel Jones. It's because Jared Golf stays on, though. I'm saying no.

I'm voting yes for Daniel Jones to stay on the island. I mean, besides the 15 passing touchdowns, which was his great season with the Giants, he's got five rushing touchdowns. Third leading pass here in the NFL. Well, you know how I feel, which means the deciding vote comes down to Jordan Roderig. Now, if she voted no on Daniel Jones,

that would be two to two, and we'd talk about Goff and see if he could get, you know, a clearer choice. But you know what you're doing, Jordan. You're deciding who is the 10th and final. Send it in a turmoil. Are you saying yes on Daniel Jones or no on Daniel Jones? She just shuffled her cards around and then peaked to see what was on.

So, pass me a bottle, Mr. Jones. There we go. Wow. Yes, the Danny Dimes. I do believe, and it is because of this. Yes, the fumbles are a problem. Yes, the turnover of the problem. They are with Jared Gough, too.

The fumbles can be a problem with Jared Gough. The pressure can be a problem with Jared Gough. Daniel Jones is helping to define the quarterback position right now. And yes, on Daniel Jones. Maybe this was all reverse psychology. And I just going to point out, all of us have a rip cord, riptide, whoa, almost available. You could take someone off if you really felt like it was necessary.

I do love that it's set up that the number one thing we learned was you can't trust Colleen in a foxhole here because she turned her back. I am loyal to what my eyes see, okay? And nobody put up a fight with that vote for Jalen Hertz, so don't come at me with that, Greg. Oh, Drake May is doing so great.

We can't all have Drake May in our lives. Do you notice how he gets a little flush to his face when he talks about Drake May? I've noticed this. He gets a twinkle in his eye. It's just, it's been a great time on the island. A great time. With the four of you.

And I've actually secured invites. We can't stay there because it's only quarterback. But we can just, like, go and eat it. Olive Garden. I want James Winston to be, like, the ambassador of the office season. He goes, he's like the cruise director of quarterback island. Don't forget, Caleb Williams out there on his touchdown floor. He is, and, yes, we're not done.

Bo Nix has got. QB Island. Flippers in the water too now. So that's it. We will have one more quarterback island. Should you for the listener read who is on quarterback island? Of course I'm going to. That final quarterback island is going to be after week 17.

It's already been put on the calendar that following Tuesday before the final regular season week. But without any further ado, the 10 men who are comprising quarterback island after episode three of season two. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. Dak Prescott Justin Herbert Sam Darnold Drake May Matthew Stafford

Lamar Jackson Danny Dimes and welcoming only one new member to the island congratulations to Jordan Love congratulations You did it Now you just got to go win

a very difficult division It was a pleasure as always Always I'm loving it Okay good No hard feeling on the backstabbing thing. Get him to save it.

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