NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Radio Row Day 1: In the MINDS of Super Bowl Figures and new Hires

Episode Date: February 8, 2022

A convention center filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal bring you all of the latest around the NFL including some new coaching hires. Rachel Bonnetta stop by to talk about getting into the minds of SB characters and we go through all of the new leagues hires and the return of SASHI! Colleen Wolfe stops by and talks about running through a glass sliding door. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mark Sessler. Ricky Hollywood's sitting to my right on the couch. What's up, gang? another Super Bowl week has arrived. I want that to be your intro to every show now. Oh, yeah! It's good. It could have a workshop.

You never know. Now, there was a little, maybe there's little jitters for Cessler. That was his window to come in with his first comment, but he's sitting on his first comment. We're getting ready for it to come in. Here we got. Well, I'm just, I'm letting this Super Bowl come to me. I'm not, you know, demanding that it unfold in a certain way. still, you know, it took, like, I drove from my house to, typically, here's my, can I tell

you what I'm a little annoyed by out of the gate? Yeah, please. Right off the bat. I love it. I just must say, typically, I have viewed, like, the, each year has its biarrhythms with work and with life. Sure. Typically, I'm on, like, night two or three of a nine-day stay in a hotel and an exotic city.

You need this hotel week. I count on it in multiple ways. You've been around your family a lot. Way too much. You can shape it however you wish. I just, I feel that that's, you know, I'm playing from behind. but I'm starting to feel the energy a little bit more. You could shape it how you wish, but that's exactly what Mark is saying.

I need to get away from my family, stay in a hotel in another city. I will allow it, but that's, I mean, I think everyone understands what's happening. Ricky, how are you? I'm doing good, yeah. Doing well. Is my hair crazy? You look super ball ready. Really?

Yes. Thank you. Maybe, Dan, you were like yelling at the beginning because there's a convention center. It's big. It's very quiet right now. But, you know, you're trying to bring the juice to the room. You're trying to fill the room. And famously, I said before we came on that it's Sessler Week.

Yeah. Mark, Super Bowl Week, he's going to be plugged in and hypercharged. So I'm trying to match Sessler Week. You guys, we went and ordered a coffee. And, Dan, I got you and me. The same thing, got a nice vanilla latte. And Mark orders to the coffee guy. He goes, can I get the most basic coffee known to mankind?

And the guy was like a black coffee. And Mark was like, that'll do. Cessler Week. I am asking for what I want. Yeah, but like the way you ordered it was just interesting. I was very cordial. Of course. There was a laundry list of, like, all the Italian coffees,

and I just said, I'll take the thing that I would take. There's someone else sitting on the couch. Right. To Mark Sessler's left. I mean, she's a rising star. What else can be said? Risen. I feel like...

In the sky. The first time she was on our show, I teed her up that way. And since then, somehow, even deeper into the stratosphere, she's gone. She is the host of Benched with Beneta. She is. Rachel Benetta. Welcome back. Hey.

Why is it so quiet in here? It's weirdly quiet. But you know what? Speaking of bio rhythms, we've been doing this for so long. This is, I think, our 10th Super Bowl together on site for the Iran-the-N-Fel podcast. And it's always super chill and borderline, you know, spooky early in the week. And then the creepy vibes giveaway and then Thursday, Friday. Remember the first radio row, Mark and I did.

did when we were in Indianapolis for our first Super Bowl, and we were stationed right next to the NFL network set, and we're interviewing Madonna and Adam Sandler. It was like, I don't quite sense that right now. Well, we were real, we were genuine journals back then, grinding nonstop. I mean, at this point, I don't even recognize that. With each other. Now you're cruise control.

Justin was walking around here a little early. With quite tiny shorts. By the way, I lied on my podcast. I said that there was, I was like, sorry if you're hearing some crowd. No noises. This place is bumping. There's celebs here. I have not seen one.

But I wanted to make it feel cool. Yeah. But I'm glad that you guys just... That's the magic of radio. You created your own truth in there. There you go. Non-truths. It's the world that I was living in.

Yes, Greg? No. I just... This scene... It's like... I took a lesson from one of the great performers of our lifetime, Ice Cube on Sunday at the NASCAR race I went to... Still trying to wrap my head around you at the NASCAR race.

And, I took a lot of the NASCAR race. And maybe the crowd, the crowd, 70,000 people weren't interested at all. It's a huge venue. But you know what? Ice Cube didn't care. Like, he filled that Coliseum. He went all out. It didn't matter what was his surroundings.

Like, he was full cube. So the parallel is, you are Ice Cube. I'm trying to take inspiration. I actually got to hang out with Ice Cube quite a bit because I covered the big three. Oh. Oh, wow. So I traveled from random city to random city with Ice Cube and just was sideline reporter. He noted friend of show because he was on our podcast.

once for 12 minutes. In our studio, maybe the biggest guest we've ever had in the studio. He's a big, he's a big get. Yeah, one of the more awkward photos, I remember, after the interview. Rachel, take us through everything. It's a whirlwind for you. How is Benetta going?

I like the title, by the way. I was thinking about this earlier that so many of my favorite memories as a high school athlete was sitting on the bench talking with my friends. That's sweet. Yeah. So there's a connection there. Well, I was, as I was just telling Greg, I'm still trying to convince myself that I should have a podcast. So that's been a little bit of a...

Listen, everyone has a podcast. Everyone does, but do they need to have a one? No. No, it's been fun. It's been a lot of, you know, just it's a challenge to come up with a new show every single week. So I'm just kind of like learning the ins and outs. And I was asking him some advice. And what did you say?

You guys stunk for a while. I think, well, you were asking like, were you, you know, Greg did? Okay, yeah, sorry. running full sprint right out of the gate and I was saying no if we went back to listen to our first year we would be horrified

and that we were much better now it's like it takes a while to get going on it does take a weird time to launch a podcast right before the Super Bowl because now we have the whole off season to kind of figure things out I do have a question for you though like if you are if you're looking at

you know there's four of us here that are attached to this show in your mind of like big gets what would be the order that you would bring us on individually not as well I think you because you just would like have so much positive energy on the top at the end of the bottom of the list you're number one oh well that we're good you don't have to say anything else this is just mark does it with every

guest typically he just wants to be that's why he said positive energy right off the top that's what you feel better now very few guests have answered the question correctly because they've answered it honestly i'm not sure that was an honest answer but i'm good i just wanted to get it over and done we're good and i think there is a little apples and oranges and check out bench with benetta because when we started the podcast, none of us really had any experience on Mike. Rachel's been doing this for a while. No, shut up. I'm not used to having, this sounds silly, but it's like for the last few years,

I'm used to asking people what their opinions are and to have your own is a little bit scary. Okay, so it is bad right now. Oh, it's bad. Okay. You just don't admit that publicly. No, I will admit it right here. It's a bad podcast, but, you know, stay along for the ride. Get in while we're low because we can only go.

up from here. All right. So, Rachel, we only have you for a few minutes here because you're very busy. I'm going to get a spray tan. It was a very good.

I am, yeah, unfortunately. Oh, wow. Yeah, it could go, it could be bad. Yeah, because you could show up orange, right? That's, yeah. You're going to match the carpet.

That's hopefully not going to happen. How do you know when to stop? Right. You don't. Pray. I've never done it. Just. Do you have previous experience with this shop

or this operation? Yes, I've had it done two other times in my life. I have too. Yeah, you just, just go low. just go to the lowest setting and then hope for one time I did it before a flight to Vegas I was like I'm going to Vegas I'm like so pale I need to have some color and then I

landed and I went to the bathroom and I actually audibly screamed because it was it had just been cooking I was flying from Toronto to Vegas you're supposed to wash it off like after a few hours and I didn't know that and it just kept on baking my skin and so then I went into the airport bathroom and I was like Jesus Lord I've made that mistake before too where you leave the undergarments on when you're in men you're supposed to strip all the way down oh they spray you right up your butt crack they you don't want lines but i was you know i kept on undergarments well what am i going to say like oh i kept my thong on and it was up my side and then i was in a bathing suit in my spray tan that's like my underwear it was horrible i think you painted the picture

first thing i do you don't want more detail we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna sign some massive contract NFL around the NFL and we're going i'm going to get excited extensive cosmetic surgery, I am going to bleach my teeth and turn orange the highest setting and then show up for our first show after signing a huge contract. Totally different. That would be a good luck for you. That man that married Liza Minnelli. Do you remember that guy?

You're just going to be... I've tried to take that out of my memory. All right. So this is what we're going to do with Rachel. We've got a lot of show to get to. There's a lot of news to hit. The personnel carousel is slowing now. and many of the big chairs, all the big chairs, maybe not officially, but it's anything.

Every coach is filled. That is a done deal. Now it's the mad scramble, of course, for assistant coaching vacancies. And that's happening now as well and all the other news. But before we do that, since we have Rachel here, this is Super Bowl Week. There are a lot of very interesting figures across the spectrum, whether it's on the field. Have we said Super Bowl 56 is on Sunday? Have we said it yet?

We didn't cover it too much last week, but you did say it to start this show. Ricky, do you have anything you want to say? What did you say? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Super Bowl 56. Since we're here, and we are allowed to say the word Super Bowl, you guys, I have to make an apology to you and to our listeners.

Okay. There's no excuse. I totally dropped the ball. Last episode, we weren't allowed to say the word Super Bowl. And at the end of the show, I came on. and said how boring you guys were because nobody said it. Hey, you chatted your chest about it. Yeah, I did.

And Greg did say the word Super Bowl around 33 minutes in, and I totally missed it, and I missed it in edit and everything, too, and there's no excuse. Are you going to get sued for this? No, I'm just apologizing. I'm just taking responsibility. According to the social media, it wasn't just one either. No, I thought it was just one. So you just got the apology wrong, too.

We're going to need another apology. Somebody's getting lazy. I mean, we're used to Erica not remotely listening to the show, But when she advertises it at the beginning, then it's a dismal. Yeah, Dan said it as well. He did. You did? I thought we were allowed to say it.

Listen, that wasn't my job. That was your job. Right. My job was with the boys to create the content. You were supposed to hold us accountable. You're totally right. So the apology for the apology? I'm so sorry, you guys, that I made an apology the wrong way.

And I just want to let you know that I'm really sorry. And I take full responsibility. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. Yeah, your accountability trails only your laser focus. we are good from here on out we're fine. According to me, I I'm accepting your apology. You could see

in Erica's eye, she's like, how am I going to bury Mark? I'm trying to be nice. The way Greg's crossing his legs is like throwing me off and I'm just sort of weirded out. So I'll destroy you. A lot of lower body action here on the set. The knees were knocked in at one point. Things are different. We're on this beautiful I-heart radio set

and usually we're underneath desks. So this is a different kind of body language check. Everybody seems pretty good right now. You're heavily man spreading. Is it too much? It's a bit too much. Luckily, your laptop is in the way, so I don't have to deal with it, but it's there.

I'm going to tighten it up a little bit. And now we're going to get into our saying. You have your laptop lodged up against your loins. Wow, you lazy to focus down there. No, I'm just saying, I'm observing. My job is to observe. For the first 15 minutes, Mark's eyes were just drifting down on my laptop. What is he looking at?

It was weird. It was kind of weird. Pure fiction. All right. It is Super Bowl 56 week. Bengals Rams Sunday before we get into previewing of the game we have a skill

we have a it's a supernatural ability of this show actually to get inside the head of people and hear their inner monologue so this is what they're actually thinking these are their thoughts this is this is nothing filter because we all

go through life filtering how we actually feel like some people a Greg Rosenthal for instance I don't even know what that means I speak how I feel when I want. A lot of, the rest of us are kind of like measured. You don't want to say everything you feel because you put yourself in trouble. Greg, is that accurate all that?

That was the nicest thing you've ever said about me. So, I appreciate it. You got it, buddy. So, Erica, can I please have the, what is it? You're a pretty little hat. My Kentucky Derby hat. Yes. I said, Erica, can we get like a Super Bowl 56 hat or like an NFL?

helmet really sell the segment she gives me a hat that her mom bought from marshals in 1990 that's a marshal's buy that's a marshal's buy for sure that's tj max number one tj max 599 yes duh it's like a hat for a female plowman well it's jets and she's not gonna like that you make all right just yeah cut this out in post all right so now 10 names in this have all key figures in the super bowl and you will take a name out of the hat and you will take a name out of the hat and you will take on that persona and share your innermost thoughts. And I will tell you, yes, I did cook up the names, but to keep things fair, I didn't give it any other thought.

So it's just, it's got to be your inner monologue, now filtered through this person's inner monologue, and share it with the work. Are we, is, is Mark going to do a voice? No, I don't, like, I don't, that's, you don't do voices? I mean, I'm just saying, I don't, I don't even know what some of their voices. Voices could get weird. They could get racist. Greg is sticking his hand in the Marshall's hat.

That's unfiltered Greg. My mom used to take me to Marshall. and just leave me in a section for like two hours and just shop and marshals. And I'd go around the whole store with a cart, pretending it was a car, and I'd come back like 20 minutes later. She'd be at the same rack. It was child abuse. Cool story. Sorry, Rach.

All right, here we go. Greg's got it. What did you get? Do I tell you who it is? I'm Joe Burrow. Oh, wow. Oh, we should have guessed. We should guess.

Oh, yeah. We should guess. All right, let's pretend we didn't hear that it was Joe Brown. Okay, who you got? I don't know if guessing as much. in the show but go ahead and i'm going to i'm going to enter the mind of of joe burrow starting now man everyone's just making such a big deal of this week it's like all anyone's doing is talking about us and that the bengals have never been here and all this stuff about the past and like i don't get it

it's just what joe burrow does he goes third person oh third person yeah he himself he uh he uh he moves away from the passers. People are talking about, O'Von Miller, Aaron Donald coming after me. You think I'm worried about a couple Hall of Famers? I just got sacked nine times

against the Titans. You think I'm worried about the worst offensive line to ever start in a Super Bowl? I've been doing this all year. I'm Joe Burrow. How heavy is your chain? I know the Wessling brothers

are coming to this game, by the way. He does? And I've had them in my mind all year. because I'm not just a quarterback I'm a leader I'm someone that's leading the entire city of Cincinnati

out of 35 years of mediocrity I'm getting emotional ever since Sam Weish was the Bengals coach I'm not just taking the Bengals team out of out of mediocrity I'm taking an entire city

so whether you're with me or you're not It doesn't matter, because I'm going to be Joe Burrow. Nice. Out of the head of Joe Burrow. Wow. I respect it. It's almost like he was here. He's got a lot of confidence that man.

That's what I took out of it. All right, I'll go next. Unfair. You guys want to guess? Yeah, let's guess. That could be fun. Take a guess. Well, no, you have to start doing it.

You have to do the act first. You have to show the mess. No wonder I thought it was a bad idea. I was like, why do we decide who we think it is? It would be the worst game ever if we were guessing before you did it. I was like, I don't know. It's like spoken word charades. All right, here we go.

Whose house? Bang. The Rams announcer? The obnoxious Rams announcer? Hey, am I allowed to be at this game? Because this is so fast, stay on. The Rams announcer? The DJ guy?

First down guy? Do you want to know right now or after I'm done? Yeah, no, you can finish it up. This is Rams PA announcer who screams whose house and other madness for four straight hours. I love it. I win. Because it's not tackle Gia Rams' home game.

We don't get that guy. He's gone. Yeah. But I feel like I really deserve it. The Bengals are the home team. My pipes, they're so strong. See, this is what I was getting at before about voices and stuff. Give me a chance.

It's a tricky line. Who's hells? I'm really glad Dan got that one. Invite me, please. What's more obnoxious? Whose house or Who day? It's a tight comment. contest.

Who's house? I think who's house because that's such a volume. I like them both. I like the crowd yelling at things. They both happen naturally at some point. And that guy, I'm sure he's a great guy. But they should put him in the 500 section at the very top. See what he can do.

And cover his mouth. We were just both in the 500 section. I've never, and you, we were all there, right? I've never, I was also a little hungover. I've never felt volume the way that I felt up there. It was loud. People get on the Rams fans for, you know, not being a great crowd, but it was loud in there that night.

We will be back there. We are in the Ox Box. You guys are going to be there? I don't know if this is breaking news, but we're in the Ox Box for the Super Bowl. So we'll be up in there in the 500 level. They put us on the 500s, huh? I like that actually better than the press box, a little antiseptic. Can I pick mine already and start thinking?

Processing what you might do. No, no, no, you can't take it until. All right. Are we ready? Well, she's a guest. No. I can make it hard on her. See if you can guess who this is.

Yes. you know underneath it all like it's been um very successful year and i you know i know i saw you trying to look at this by the way dan no okay i wrote i mean i'm gonna know what it is stay in character mark i don't back it back into your character i don't i don't forget um all these johnny come lately's that are now patting me on the back trying to pet my hair tell me how knowledgeable i am before the season i was a piece of trash to them i know who it is is. Should we just guess it?

I don't know. It's Zach Taylor. But continue on. Yeah. Maybe we should let the character breathe before we jump in. Yeah. Let's see it. Like underneath it all, I'm kind of agitated and annoyed with, you know, the collective Cincinnati media that wanted to wheel me out of town.

Sure. Prior to us going to the Super Bowl for the first time in a billion years, unthankful Bengals fans. But I'm going to try to rise up and be a little more. I'm going to seize the moment because I clearly have the skills to do that. I've won over this locker room. I do remember that someone on a podcast two seasons ago cited me as a coach of the year candidate,

prescient, maybe a year before it happened. And I do remember that individual. That was an important individual from the around the NFL podcast who came up with that prediction two August ago. I'm not buying this character. It's like one of the Mark now is trying to settle some scores in his favor.

Mark is trying to Spike the football on a massively incorrect prediction he made two years ago Because they went two and 13 that year I think sometimes you know I get that that that individual football analyst He can't tell when he's going to see something correct is it going to happen that year or maybe the next year It's going to happen and I do I do say that's one of the few people in the media that had faith in me That's probably that's all I'm thinking about this week Is that Taylor a million years old? Did you say Johnny come lately?

Yes well he's you know he he he I take knowledge from all sorts of sources, old and young. Right. He, Zach Taylor famously does love his elders. And this analyst, you're talking about, much older than Zach Taylor. Far older. You should audition for S&L. You really do great character work.

He's plugged into an outlet. I don't know if I believe what you've just said. All right. Good job. Zach Taylor, head coach of the Bengals. Really, I feel like I know him better after that. Or in a new way, at least. All right.

Benched with Benetta is up. Okay, this is my turn. I don't know what this guy sounds like. Wait, wait a second. Jim Rome just walked by. Jim Rome? Wow They're always smaller in person

Very petite Well they're saying that about us too Well you guys are like smaller men The security guys looking at us like we're looking at him Okay I'm very young I'm very young I'm new here And you know what I'm going to win the Super Bowl

Watch this I'm going to go finish this off and I'm going to win the Super Bowl I'm very confident I'm going to win the AFC championship Watch this Hey Oh, watch this. Well, I mean, do I hit a buzzer?

No, we're not going to go five minutes long like you two did. Funny. When you tap into a character. I'm done. I'm done. I've got leg muscles for days. I've got calves, strong calves. Hey, do some character work. He's from Alabama.

Give a little twang. A little twine. Hey. Hey. Hey, here, watch. Oh, no. Stop, stop. You're making my mouth turn.

Hey, hey, hey, look at here, boy. I don't want your laugh. I'm going, I'm going to win. I'm going, we're going to the AFC championship, boy. Oh, my God. We're going to win Super Bowl, boy. Evan McPherson, everybody. That was my favorite.

As you can tell, Rachel's done a lot of improv work. Sad because I have. You've been in a film, a short film? I've been in a movie before, yes. An indie film where I'd cry. Wow. Good actress. What's the name of the film so people can look it up?

When Mark found out that we were hiring you at the NFL, he actually immediately went back and watched everything you've ever been in. Creepy. Erica, would you like to try? Sure. Right, pass Erica the Marshall's hat. Hey, it's like really nice. By the way, my mom, the Marshall's mom's story,

that led to some abandonment issues in my life. So on our podcast, we share some things. No, I'm just saying, like, you said it wasn't a good story, but it meant something to me. Go ahead. All right, I got it. Everybody always says that I was the boy genius, but I've lost my touch, or I'm getting a little too timid when it comes to play calling. Sean McVeigh. Or I'm not playing.

Nobody talks to Sean McVeigh while he's thinking, okay? And I took my team to the Super Bowl with Jared Gough, okay? It was Bill Belichick and these Patriots, and it was a really great defensive show. I mean the score was so low people were talking about it forever and now I'm back and I'm in my town and I'm in my city and he doesn't even get his own parking my house and I yet you know what I took my shirt off during hard knocks and everyone faulted me for it rosay rosay in the pool but now look who's laughing now I'm going to be shirtless after this game too wow heading to the streets they're going to be throwing a parade.

Can I get a raspy your voice? They're going to be throwing a parade in my name. I'm going to hit that club, Delilah. I'm going to go out with OBJ. I'm going to put dippity do in my hair. And I'm dating a model. My life is perfect. It's only missing this one thing.

Shoot. Lombardi truck. Yeah, wow. Good Lord. I want to, I have a couple good ones in here. Before we say goodbye to Rachel, I want to give, I want to give one out. I'm going to actually, you guys, do you guys, want to pick one for Rachel to do?

Yeah. Put her on the spot again. All right, here are the options. A method actor. Guys, I could barely do a Southern accent on demand here. Al Michaels. Oh, yeah. Oh, geez, a little.

Lou Amaruno. Welcome to the green. Eminem. Hmm. Zach Taylor. Well, I put that back in there. Why would you put it back in? I don't know how the first time wasn't great.

Why would you? All right. Well, I don't know how the game works. Matt Stafford. I don't know how the game works. The Omicron variant. Kelly Stafford. How about Kelly Stamford?

I think either Omicron or Eminem. Omicron or Eminem would be good. And also, this last one, I didn't put this one in. It says Erica's 30th birthday is Thursday. I could do this. I could do this. Okay. You want to just do that?

No. Is it good my third of birthday? Does anybody have any white cloth surges? Does anybody have any white cloth surges because it's all I drink? Yeah, it does. I've definitely heard that before. Surge yourself. I don't know what you were saying at the bar that one time.

It was something close to that. And I kept going, back to you, Jim. Do you want to pick one for Rachel? No, no, that was good. We're going to just keep having her do one after one. I don't think anybody needs to hear more. Eminem would have been fun. All right.

The Omicron Parriot. It's over. Thanks for having me, you guys. Rachel Beneta. It's always a blast. Benched with Beneta, NFL Network. She's going to be all over. Will you guys come on my podcast one time?

I think we've cleared that up, yes. By the way, we're here. The set up text to you was, how about a home and home? Yeah, but I just figured you, you guys were doing a million things i was sitting i don't like asking people for favors i was literally next to you while you recorded your whole show no we'd love to be on your show let them think we're doing a million things it's not

we're here oh that light what oh my gosh what but everything are you all trying to kill me everything has to line up perfectly for us to do okay you can come on my show geez all right there she goes rachel benetta i'm going now there she goes oh the super bowl i want to hear dan bial michael's though okay It is a big, it's a big moment. What is how Michael sound like, by the way? Ow, Michael.

I saw that actually, and it was faced up, and I was like, I'm not taking that on, because I have no idea, you're going to need to sound like him, and I have no idea how to do that. Yeah. All right, I don't want to do it that. We're not gifted voice impressionist. I think I did the best. I could do Pacey Whitter from Dawson's Creek.

Dawson, Dawson, Dawson, Dawson. What about Chris Collins? You do JFK really well? Oh, yeah. Era, era, error, error. Kilburn missile crisis averted. Era, era. All right.

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and then go and sit on your butt for four days. Everyone thinks you're working hard, but you're really not. You know, work in silence. Don't show everybody what you're doing. You know, let your game on Friday nights and Saturday nights and Sunday nights show all the hard work that you put in. Don't worry about all that social media stuff. Oh!

Sounds familiar. That is Joe Burrow. Will he be a legend of the Midwest by Sunday night? is he already these are all questions that it is a it's a grand story isn't it the every nfl season is just a long winding narrative and it comes to an end uh with bangles rams and don't forget coming up later this week we got three shows and an NFL network program later in the week but we got three shows and mark will after i have collapsed in the playoffs in the pickum challenge the lock challenge it is marks right in a deadlock tie to choose the winner in his mind

and i will go as a noble man into a lockoff there will be no tie i mean that's your words noble there will be no tie that feels like that feels like the opposite of noble that you're just giving up on making any choice and you're probably not backing the the bengals and robbing yourself What do you mean? I might be backing the bangles. I have to see what Mark's picking. I'm fine with the plan. When we had a tie potential tie scenario during Patriots Eagles,

you had caught up to me and picked first that time. So at least it is sort of, to your words, a home and home. And by the way, Nick Wesleyan, who we saw this weekend, was very forceful with the concept that he's only one behind me. So if things went south, he could wind up somewhere. else there could be a three-way tie for the in the end and nick's my nick who by the way go at the rams yeah nick fell uh to me 2117 in cornhole oh uh at lekeisha uh and west manor just want to put that out there but nick was hoping to coming through the back door and get a tie

and uh that would mean that mark and i would both lock up hypothetically the bang the bangles and then westling comes in and locks up the rams and then the rams win and it's a three-way tie No, Nick. Thanks for playing. You're not getting a share of the trophy. It was a tad far-fetched. It comes down to Sessler and I, and I'll let fate handle it. Hands are washed.

It's Mark's decision. Lame. It's like a picks competition. I'm so bad at making picks. I give up my pick. It doesn't matter. Why does it have Mike even on for you? I've got the back-to-back solo trophies.

You're still looking for your first solo trophy. So I know what it's like to get to the end. And you make your own pick. You're going to want to make your own pick. Greg, you are a voice clinging to the past. You are very much like the Patriots. There was something there. Yes.

It was special, but that is gone and over. Let the two men vying for the title work things out. I don't. Right. Or like the Tennessee Titans here during Super Bowl week, offering their opinion on how the game just doesn't feel. Yes, yes. They will be probably here on Radio Row getting paid by certain sponsors.

I think in fact, we are speaking with Derek. Henry. Yeah, we'll be, you know, plugging vitamin water later this week. Yes, we'll have guests, we'll have previews, breaking down the game, but let's get into the news. Barry Sanders right there, see? I mean, like, people are, people are here. Sanders looks the same. Pretty cool. How could Sanders play 12 years in the NFL on AstroTurf, taking 270 carries a year, and be 54 and look younger than I do? I don't that doesn't seem fair but I guess he's one he's an all-time athlete that's part of the right it's not a normal yeah it's not a normal um like he's an all-time like the guy that is 12 feet away from us right now is one of the greatest football players to ever walk the earth see don't let that magic wash off you Dan like the 12-year-old Danny boy would be very impressed with what's happening right now well that's what I'm saying right I'm just trying that is one of the fun things the Super Bowl week is you see all these people and had Greg

ever been 12th he would have similar feelings i love me some barry sanders because my team at the time was so bad i i put myself on other teams too because you had to enjoy you know watching other team barry sanders and randall cunningham i would say were the two most exciting players of their era come on all right let's get into the news let's yes the coaching carousel the personnel carousel is slowing to a near stop the houston texans have filled their head coach vacancy after much hand-wringing internally, promoting defensive coordinator Lovie Smith to head coach. Josh McCown once again was in the picture.

David Cully never seemed to have a chance when he was let go despite doing some positive things. So they bring in Lovie Smith, who obviously had some really nice moments in the early tenure with the Bears but that's 10 years ago I think it's something Greg right off the top especially where we are now

what's going on in the league the hiring of a black coach is a good thing if you are though if you're a Texans fan hoping for a hire that excites you I don't know if that's Lovie Smith well because of the process that they took to get to Lovie Smith

I actually think you could make the argument that Lovie Smith is a guy that could be hired again. He's that many games over 500. They haven't been good in Chicago since he was gone. The one year he had in Tampa, people kind of forget that he is a two-time head coach. You know, they went from three wins to six wins or whatever. Like, he's not an exciting head coach,

but he's a normal head coach hiring. The reason it doesn't pass the smell test is because he wasn't one of their finalists and because he was in the building all last year and never once was he brought up as a potential future head coach. So then you get into this setting of we've got three finalists for the job. One of them is Jonathan Gannon, the Eagles defensive coordinator. He's not going to get it, apparently.

The other two are Josh McCown and Brian Flores. Brian Flores, who has a track record with Nick Casario and Jack Easterby from the Patriots. The lawsuit from Brian Flores drops after the interview. The other one is Josh McCown, who many insiders, who seem to always have a good beat on the Texans. I don't know if that's your guy Easterbee, Mark or not. Really believe that was going to get the job, Josh McCown. The Flores suit happens, and suddenly it doesn't seem palatable to hire Josh McCown as a head coach in the NFL.

And so you give the job to Lovie Smith, and this is, again, just me surmising, and they pushed back against this idea. But you conducted a very public head coaching search, and not at one point was, lovey smith ever believed to be part of it so it's not that hard to put one and one together and it just to me is unfortunate because this texan's organization has kind of been a mess for the last couple of years and this feels like a continuation of it nick asserio didn't even forcefully acknowledged that levy smith would be back as defensive coordinator after the season i think gregg nailed it i mean you learn a lot about these teams um during these head coaching searches

how the process goes out, what information comes out, what it reveals about them. I have to look at this and wonder, like, is this essentially Lovie Smith being lined up for another transition type year where, you know, next off season they go get the guy they really wanted. I mean, Jack Easterby at this point is on to his third head coach, and if you count Bill O'Brien, third GM in a very short tenure, what I think the Texans have revealed themselves to be, and it's a surprise to no one, is a disorganized mess. And, I mean, I don't think that Lovie Smith is a bad candidate necessarily. but for him to come out of the atmosphere this way speaks volumes about what Houston's doing. I'm with you. And if that is what this is, it's another placeholder hire. We'll see. We don't

really know. But all I can tell you is this, it's an uninspiring hire. It's rare for a guy to get a third job absent some type of like Super Bowl title or something that really Sterling on his resume. He did take Rex Grossman to the Super Bowl. Okay. That was a long-ass time ago. I'm just saying that like deserves, that's almost like winning a Super Bowl if you made it to a Super Bowl. There's a great defense, and he deserves credit for that.

But he went 8 and 24 with Tampa Bay, and I know we don't follow it very closely. He goes to college, and for Illinois, he goes 17 and 39 over five years, gets fired there, and then their defense was ranked 31st last year. And it's just like, okay, we hire Lovey Smith. Okay.

I thought that they're, it's interesting, because I actually thought their defense was pretty well coached. DVOA, stuff like EPA, stuff like that, they were closer to average after their bi-week and had no personnel. But to me, it's all sort of beside the point to the process, which felt like a joke. And you can't give the benefit of it out to this organization because of what's happened over the last handful of years. So when it looks like something and it feels like something and the McNair's, you know, step up

and they hire Lovey Smith in this way, like, well, We'll see. When Ian Rappaport put out the report that Lobby Smith's going to be their coach for 2022, it really felt like the 4-2020 thing wasn't put there accidentally in that maybe it's going to be McCown in the future. Who really knows? But it sort of just was so fitting today during the press conference that they couldn't even get through that without an embarrassing moment. I would say the last few weeks with a number of different candidates. and that was pretty fluid. I think this process in it of itself is very fluid. And we have to fire.

Yeah, you do. Don't use the elevators. Harbinger of doom. Very emblematic, though. Yes. All right. So that's what's happening with the Texans. We have another hire to share.

Time for news and notes presented by Upwork. where you can build the team that will build your business, learn more at Upwork. The Miami Dolphins, they have a new head coach. Mike McDaniel, the 49ers offensive coordinator, gets the big chair in Miami. This is a hire that Mark, I think, a lot of people see as a positive.

McDaniel is someone that Kyle Shanahan has brought everywhere. He's gone for years. It was his first year as offensive coordinator this season. and San Francisco obviously is a team with Shanahan there that is, you know, people look at their offenses, something to get behind. So McDaniel, known as a bright mind, do you like this higher for the Dolphins? I do. I think, like, I'm preordained to kind of love this coach on some level,

and I have for a couple years. And I think, if anything, I mean, we get that the Dolphins are a bit of a, they're going through a lot right now. And we don't even know, you know, ownership on down, what will happen down the road from Miami. Mike Jones, let's go. What's up? All right.

That's your boy, Mark. That, well, here's a thing, like, did you see the, uh, him face timing with Tua on the airplane? No, I didn't. So the thing about him, I just think that, like, what I like about the higher in general is that. In Wi-Fi, that allowed him to FaceTime on the plane? Is that some private jet stuff?

Is that same? Yeah. He was on the Ross jet, so. Is that unusual? But it's the first thing he did. Like he, too-sadded Wi-Fi, typically, but I guess he wasn't flying commercial. I don't think he was, I don't think he wasn't packed in, like, some, you know, like, this wasn't like an American airlines.

Can you go watch Netflix on a standard Wi-Fi signal? I mean, that is what we should be digging into here. Okay, go ahead. This aspect of it. I'm just saying, I think it's great for Tua. The Dolphins have not had like a top 10 offense in like 25 years, and they've had issues all over the place on that side of the ball. And this is why you hire him.

I mean, like, I like the move. He didn't call plays in San Francisco, but I will go back to that anecdote that when we were hanging out with those Niners coaches. that they were coming out of the woodwork saying this dude is, like, genius level, outside the box thinker. He connects with players. I know that he doesn't sound maybe like your typical head coach sound bite-wise. I don't care.

That's what I like about it. They went out and did something a little bit different here. Mike Jones, let's go. Do you know that the Mike Jones reference, like the song, that's sort of playing to, Mark? Because I know you're a little older than Mike McDaniels, too. You know, Greg, I'm not even going to, like, Do you understand that if you said that to someone else in our company, you would be taken in a body back to HR.

Oh, report Greg. I absolutely will call. I will promise you that I am going to report Greg for ageism after this. That would be amazing. I think it was a fair. You think it was. Ricky, can we, after the complaint is formally filed, can we, when they book the conference room for like the deposition or however it works,

can we get the podcast equipment? in there and do a show. Now that'd be good. Great off-season content. I assume that Dan and Erica will back me on this. I want to see all the facts laid out. But can I just say something?

Mike Jones sort of falls in a nether world. I'm not really... Don't try to slither out of this. Can I just say is it a little bit odd and I understand 32 big chairs and every job is hard to get

and if you have the opportunity to take a job, you take a job and who doesn't want to play down of Miami or coached down in Miami. But Mike McDaniel, a guy who is a hot name, given everything that's happening in the news around the dolphins, is this really

what you just heard from the previous head coach about ownership, the allegations there, given the fact, think about this, we don't know how things are going to play out with, say, the allegations about tanking. Like, what if that led to losing your

first round pick for three years? Like, all this stuff. Or losing, or the ownership changing. Right. It's perilous. It's perilous waters. I wonder, and now here's a conspiracy theory. Greg, I'll throw it to you on this.

I wonder if McDaniel, who is obviously a smart guy, had the same potential misgivings, and Stephen Ross was, hey, but, FYI, Deshaun Watson's going to be your quarterback. Like something to really spice up the job a little bit. That is quite a conspiracy theory. And by the way, and again, this is all just based on the allegations, if Tom Brady was hypothetically on a yacht,

is the Sean Watson's somebody, were there any communications? Is there more that the dolphins have connected on that situation than anybody knows at this time? The Watson question is going to be a big one throughout the off season. The thing is nothing's changed there. And by the way, that Lovie Smith job feels temporary in part because they're going to have $50 million in dead money on their cap if and when they trade Deshawn Watson. But to answer your question, Dan, I think he would probably take it regardless. You don't need a conspiracy theory. A, because you,

do you believe in yourself, and B, because he comes from relatively, you know, pretty humble background, and it changes his family's life forever. And you can say that you're going to have chances down the road to be a head coach or not. But it's not just getting a raise. It's getting a ten-fold raise. Oh, I understand that, Greg. But if he believes in himself, he's not going to take a job a year early fearing he'll never get another opportunity. Like if he truly believes in his potential, it just feels like a major concerns here.

I think just trying to put yourself in that sort of shoes, not just a tenfold raise, but someone that you change your family's life forever and there's no guarantee for that in the future. And you do believe in yourself so you believe that you can improve this Dolphins team. Now, I see a very tricky transition. They've put so many resources into an offensive line that has really struggled. It's terrible. And in theory, that's what McDaniel brings you, is coaching that can fix the offensive line. He was the run game coordinator.

He's the run game coordinator. That's sort of, you know, Shanahan's tree is known for taking a little and making a lot with your offensive line. And that kind of fits with Tua. But, man, if you look at all the moves they made in the last few years, it's all for like a Flores-style defense and a Belichick-style offense. And, like, that's a hard transition. and that could take years and there's draft picks and they've spent all this money in weird places that it's not going to be easy, I don't think, for them.

It could take years but we're days away from a Super Bowl featuring a Rams team that flipped around rapidly, immediately under Sean McVeigh. From being one of the more dull visual experiments out there under the previous coaching staff and a Bengals team that was totally disregarded for decades in a mess two years ago. I think if anything, if you believe in the coach,

you believe in the transformation that comes with it. I'm just saying those teams don't potentially have the handicaps that this team could have if things break a certain way. They don't. There's another world where this, like, maybe, like, with the lawsuit stuff, I just think if you're, like, if you're McDaniel, do you shy away from what could be a very good job a couple years from now? Because of that, I think it's choppy waters.

He weighed, obviously, we don't need to speculate that. I'm sure he weighed the pros and cons. Yeah, I would imagine he had a little list with the positive. The GM has been there in some capacity for almost 20 years now, too. And a lot of coaches have come and gone. So there is definitely, I think, some buyer beware. But I think if you're a Dolphins fan, you've got to be excited. Like, do the show with Andrew Hawkinson.

He said years ago, this is the best coach I've ever been under, period. Any position, any place. Mike McDaniel, I think, is like the sharpest. And you just look at the influence that that coaching staff back in Washington has. I mean, McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan, Matt LaFleur, and Mike McDaniel was also on that staff. He's really wild. He's going to be the hype bunny hire of this cycle. Yeah.

And a lot of, like you're saying, everyone that's ever been in contact with him sees him as a really bright guy. Now it's a lot different when you're in the big chair. I don't know if he's going to call plays or what. We'll see. But Dolphins fans are probably feeling good, but there's a lot of unsure times there. Two has got to be happy, unless he gets, like, booted. Go watch that FaceTime phone call. I think he'll be very happy.

I can't believe the Wi-Fi. Well, no, that's the whole... That's the A storyline, but the B storyline was the conversation, which was... News slash the ultra-rich lived differently than us. Stephen Ross has got that nice Wi-Fi on the plane. He's got some problems, but he's got the Wi-Fi. Until I'm fully orange with the bleached teeth. Veneers.

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We've got the insight to help you crush your opponents. Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. All right, we're back. Saints hire Dennis Allen. They promote Dennis Allen, I should say. Alan, 49 years old.

It always seemed like this is where this was headed after Sean Payton announced he was. was stepping away after a decade and a half on the job. This is the final head coaching vacancy filled. I know the hire of O'Connell with Los Angeles and Vikings. That has to wait until after the game. But yes, they're all set now with this hire. Dennis Allen, the defensive coordinator for a long time, did have a head coach tenure going 4 and 12 and 412 with the Raiders before at 0.4.14 and getting canned.

Now he gets another shot on another team that's a lot of work to do here, Mark. You know, I don't dislike the hire, though, because I think this was about continuity. Like, you've already got, New Orleans probably culture-wise, has one of the better things going on. And I think that Dennis Allen, who's Sean Payton in his farewell news conference, which went on for roughly seven and a half hours, name-dropped Allen as like the guy he recommended, highly recommended to take over the job as a candidate. and he's been groomed for this the Oakland job was messy but he also was stuck

with like Matt Flynn and Matt Schaub in those situations and I mean there was there if you go back and look at some of the reporting around his tenure I know the record was bad but people thought that he did a good job in the locker room with the players so I just think it's just like continuity it's the same staff

it's the same culture I think someone like Pete Carmichael Jr who's been there forever takes over an offense that should look similar so I don't know I mean does it Is that the table for, like, Sean Payton to come back at some point? Oh, I don't think so at this point. But I think this is keeping the Saints to some degree. My question, yeah, this isn't like a Bounty Gate situation.

I think he's going to the Cowboys, let's be honest. But I think the question I ask, you mentioned, like, the culture there is a healthy culture. Well, how much of that was tied directly to Sean Payton? Like, what does this team look like without Peyton there? Is there really a good culture anymore? I'm curious who their offensive coordinator will be. Pete Carmichael was with. Sean Payton, I believe, the entire time, which is wild, and was the offensive coordinator for most of that time.

So if you promote Carmichael, and they're not saying what they're going to do, there's some buzz that after interviewing Eric Biennamy for the head coaching job, that they might try to get BNME for the offensive coordinator job because Bianne's contract with Kansas City is up and there's some uncertainty about what's going to happen there. I think it's okay that they hired Dennis Allen. Their defense is awesome, and they're going to try to retain that, but that's clearly what they were going for. Jeff Duncan, who's been there forever, said that Mickey Loomis was looking for two main criteria, one or the other, either head coaching experience or familiarity with the Saints system. Got both.

And he had him both, and Duncan really hammered the point home that they don't think that they're going to blow up their roster. So we may look at the $75 million they're over the cap right now. and think like, oh, that's problematic. You say $75 billion? I believe that, too. 75. They're literally, this is not an exaggeration.

They are 75 million. There's only like three teams over the cap. They're one of them, and there's 75 million. And Taran Armstead's a free agent, and Marcus Williams is a free agent. Many good players. They believe they're going to keep this defense together. They believe they're going to get Michael Thomas back. They have to find a quarterback.

I think James Winston's probably the leader in the clubhouse, but who knows. But they think that they're somehow going to keep this together in Dennis Allen. is the guy to do that. That was my next question. Like, what do you guys think? Who's going to be the quarterback here? I read, I can't remember where I read it. Maybe it was ESPN.com.

They were trying to figure out coaching carousel or quarterback carousel. And quarterback, quarterback carousel. And someone, they throw out the bucks resigning James Winston. I was like, that would be wild. Someone, yeah, there was a report that they're open to it. Because Jason Light, Jason Light kind of loves James Winston. He drafted him. I think they left on.

good terms and they might not be able to do any better but that that would that would be silly i think it is worth noting though dennis allen was probably we got it it is worth noting you weren't that part of the i'm just saying i think if you were making a list of the best three defensive coordinators in the league over the last three years he would be on that list so that was worth noting i will say i think that was that was their weakness for so long previous to him okay i'll buy it feels like a transition higher to me he's going to call plays and then we'll see like it's like okay Sean peaton's gone Dennis Allen's been a good soldier for seven years. Let's give him the job and see how the next year goes.

Well, you get some of the embers of the success sometimes. Jim Caldwell almost won a Super Bowl. Almost. It's 14 and O. George Seifert. Like, no one really respects him, won a Super Bowl or two. I don't even, I think you might have won two. Like, sometimes it works.

You bring in the next guy. Sorry, I just drifted off thinking about when the Colts are 14 and O and they decided to rest starters instead of go for 16 and O. And then they didn't even win the Super Bowl either. Those teams were extremely annoying to me. It worked out. They were against the Jets in Week 16, and they were like, all right, Payton's going to play for a half, and then we're going to put them on ice, and then they blew that game, lost the next week.

Went to the Super Bowl, but then got beat by the Saints. See how it all tied back together. Very poetic. You thought it was just going down a Jets wormhole. You could go anywhere. Or just like a wide open thread. No. Tied it up.

All right. The Jaguars, they have a coach. I guess it ended well. they got Doug Peterson they have a Super Bowl winning head coach he won the big game see we don't have to say the big game like everyone else seemingly around Super Bowl week we have the rights to it as the NFL I can say Super Bowl anytime I want even on shows that you can right even on shows I'm not supposed to I didn't get punished for it I mean that's the ultimate I'm glad I said it you are a bad boy I mean there's that's another example

of why Greg cannot be held down by anyone or anything no he's too volatile to dangerous. You don't know what's going to come out. Leather jacket always. Right, but I came to you at the beginning before we started the show and I was like, I think I should make a formal apology to the listeners to everyone. But then Greg bringing it up later, kind of a dushy move, right? Saying I can say whatever I want.

And I mean, I already apologized. I've learned from children. If you don't punish them immediately, then they'll just think they have a green light to do whatever they were. I don't know. I hope child services isn't listening. Well, Greg has a lot of complaints filed against him over the last. Yeah, you could have a lot of complaints about me as a parent. Being a taskmaster would not be one of them.

All right, let's get to it. Doug Peterson fell out of favor with the Eagles after that amazing Super Bowl victory a few years back. But he's a guy that has a proven track record. He helped develop Carson Wentz into a star, however briefly that was. I'm pissed off, Angelo. Yeah, he's pissed off no more because he is now the head coach of the Jaguars. And he gets, yes, he joins an organization. in flux, an organization where you have to have some questions. Trent Balky's still there,

but maybe now Rick Spielman is entering the building to displace Balky on some level. There's still questions around this organization, but at the end of the day, Mark, if you're Doug Peterson, I'm back in a big chair, I'm making a ton of money, a butt ton of money, and Trevor Lawrence, still a generational prospect. You basically get a redo for him in second year of his rookie deal. Yeah, I think it's like if you're Shod Khan, you don't want to go through the drama of wondering if the next guy you hire is going to be learning on the job and fumbling and bumbling on the job the way that Urban Meyer did in like massive scope. I mean, this guy, he's been around the block. I think it's like a quarterback centric move. Zach Berman from the athletic who covered

the Eagles forever talked about Peterson. And I think that, you know, last year what happened like his obviously the shine was off Doug Peterson because that was such a disastrous season for the Eagles where you can kind of forget what happened before and how quickly he helped their offense and what they did. I mean, they went to a height the Eagles had never gone to. But Zach Berman talked about him having kind of emotional intelligence, someone that works really well with other coaches that doesn't need to

kind of always be the smartest guy in the room or the center of attention. And I kind of, like, with this hiring cycle, it's like, all right, Doug Peterson. Like, I don't know, he doesn't move the needle maybe in your mind. He didn't for the Jaguars, right? Because he wasn't one of the finalists. They like revisited him after others didn't work out. These are the guys that like

two or three years from now. I don't think Bill admit that. He could be the most successful of the coaches. I mean, also, I think it helps to the, I'm pissed off, Angelo. You're not dealing with raging AM Philly Talk Radio. You're dealing with Jacksonville, which is a softer media market. There's time here to grow it. I don't think Shod Khan wants a one-and-done scenario ever again.

It's a good hire. Yeah. I know some people will say, well, you know, when Doug Peterson was at his height, Frank Reich was with him. I get all that. I just think there is some real success, recent success, and the fact that he did help develop Wence, now you have a grown, up in the room who is motivated a proven NFL guy to get with Trevor Lawrence. They had to get, I thought, not necessarily an outside-the-box hire for this.

I think he kind of fits the category of what made sense for this move. So we'll see. I agree. In the end, they got there. It just, again, the process doesn't make you feel great if you're a Jaguars fan. Two of the other finalists. But do you care ultimately? I know that.

I agree with you, but like, this is where they came down. I do, because this is like what you said as a Jets fan when the process was bad. to get gase. And I think what a lot of fans do to convince themselves when the process was bad, because it didn't take away what the problem is here, which is that they keep having new coaches every couple of years that the ownership hasn't made great decisions. I do like, I think Peterson stabilizes things. He's hiring Mike McCoy as the Jaguars quarterback coach. McCoy has not been in the league since 2018. He's supposedly going to bring in Press Taylor, who was an assistant in Philadelphia under Peterson, who was kind of scapegoated.

So when that went sideways and he's been out of the league, like some, he's getting his guys back together, and you could certainly do worse. But the fact that the reporting indicates it was Byron Leftwich's job, he just didn't want to work with Trent Balky. I don't know. That worries me. It's not great.

It's not great. And Iber Fluse was the guys that they first wanted. I'm not saying it's like all's well that ends well, but there is an element of, well, at least they didn't botch it with a really suspect hire. It's not the Texans. Right. And I don't know.

Is the Spielman deal done? Because he's a respected guy that really I thought was a good team builder in Minnesota. I think a big part of this, if you are a Jaguars fan, it's like, we got to get Balky out of a central role as a team builder here. Maybe Spielman comes in. He's a wheeler and dealer with experience. Maybe things come together quickly if Lawrence develops. It's going to be interesting year for that. an executive level higher, which has to get approved by the league, because they're adding

a level above Trent Balki is coming, and everyone assumes that's Rick Spielman. He said, no, Balky was part of the press conference. That was what was weird, and Balky is staying. They'll be ridiculous. They said that over and over, but Balky has a series of Polaroids that would be disturbing. He's fired four coaches in four years. All right to others. It is, uh, it is one. They are reportedly also hiring Mike Caldwell as defensive coordinator. Mike Caldwell was uh a defensive assistant with the bucks last year the line back this hire mjd i like that our buddy hire him see what happens i think called well a former browns player by the way just throwing that out there oh okay so i'm on board with it maybe all right let's uh oh guess what some say it's it's early

some say it's too early i say it's time to celebrate a trope alert landing early Super Bowl week. Trope alert. Trope alert. Everybody? Hold on to your butts because Kyler Murray unfollowed the Cardinals and removed all Arizona Cardinals related content from his social media. Greg, in the 2020s NFL, that is akin to filing divorce papers with your team. 75% of the time.

And don't we know whether it's Jalen and. Ramsey or Odell Beckham or Jamal Adams or name this player or that player when a player now decides he doesn't want to be somewhere anymore he gone I'm getting ahead of this because there is a glaring hole of vacancy in this offseason landscape for a true superstar quarterback to say I want to go hmm there maybe Kyler Murray and his agent were like we could be that guy in this landscape. I'm ahead of myself here, Gregi, but I like it. I like it too because it's like, it's like, hey, we see you Russell Wilson humming and hollying. Oh, Russell Wilson wants to check out what's out there. Say humming and hollying? It's like, we know what you're trying to do.

You're trying to have your cake and eat it too, Russell Wilson. I'm Kyler Murray. I'm just going to put my stance out. Right. Jump in the pool. I don't know if I can go so far there. He did delete all of his posts on Instagram except for two. One of them, one of them was from Pro Bowl, and one of them was from four years ago at Oklahoma. So that's very confusing. People are saying, like, well, he deleted all his Cardinal stuff. Well, he deleted everything. It seems to be a way to send a message.

You are absolutely right. And the fact that he was such a highly sought-after baseball player, and many believed that he loves baseball more than football adds a fun little wrinkle. I didn't think of that. Mark, you might want to get on that baseball weekly beat from 90s. if Kyler Murray goes back to... That's just like a little leverage, if nothing else, that he had. I could seamlessly ship back to that job without any issues.

Where's Brady Anderson? Well, Mark, he retired 27 years ago. He is 51 years old. I'm with you, Dan. Chris Hoyles. I'm leaning into this that this is something that triggers issues. I think, number one, they have till early May to slap the fifth year option on him. Of course, they're going to do that.

I mean, like, people have talked to people inside the Cardinals organization. And they're like, this was news to them. They don't know of any discord, but I just assume that there is discord. I'm just going to assume that there are problems. We had a beefy back and forth after the wild card game where Kyler Murray no-showed, the offense no-showed, the Cardinals no-showed. And I think, I imagine them being so impotent as an attack in the last seven weeks, perhaps there is more to this story.

And maybe Kyler blames Cliff. and if Cliff ain't going anywhere maybe Kyler's like I ain't sticking around they got some juice here the baseball thing and it just got me to follow him too I just was thinking well I should now follow Kyler Murray maybe that was his the end game there get Greg Rosenthal

to follow me on social media I wasn't saying that but I'm saying he's certainly going to get a lot of follows based off of this I'm sure I wasn't the only one I bet he's gotten like a hundred thousand five because people now are like oh yeah I better be tracking this right let's head to the blotter we have an offseason arrest

It's a big name. Alvin Kamara arrested in Las Vegas for battery resulting in substantial bodily harm. This is a situation. The All-Pro Saints running back was out partying, I guess, for Pro Bowl week? Pro Bowl was in Vegas. Before the Pro Bowl the night before. And there was an incident in a lobby outside one of those nightclubs in one of the big casinos. And there's a guy who got a beat down.

and the police believe that Kamara was actively involved. There's some video and witnesses that point to Kamara here. So he's going to go through the legal process. And this is something to watch. Obviously, it's an assault, and it could lead to both substantial legal issues and even suspension from football. So this is not a good Alvin Kamara story,

but one to track nonetheless. They should have videos because of where was in the hotel. You do in circumstances like this with a player like Kamara who's earned some equity in terms of what he's done in the community and the fact that he's kind of always around the people. You do think of that the NFL players are often targets in situations like this, but we'll see. It'll play out. Right. Yes. We'll see. I'll leave it at that. And finally, in the news, Tom Brady, he's got a podcast. And he's making news. The podcast is making news a little bit late. But only if his career actually isn't over appearing on the Let's Go podcast.

I don't even have to look that up because it's gotten so much buzz lately. It's on fire. On Monday night, he was asked, I assume, by Jim Gray. The great infamous Jim Gray. If he'd consider coming out of retirement, Brady said, you never say never. Can I, I want to propose something to you guys. because the spirit of my sandwich prop was that I just can't see Tom retiring like he's got he's such a competitor he's got so much ability still will you give me a year

what before you owe the sandwich yeah well he's retired he's retired out here what I'll do is if you want to double or nothing it if you want to put in an extra sandwich that he doesn't play at all throughout the season or you get it back and there's not going to double it i'm going to put six sandwiches on it i'm saying we'll owe you two sandwiches ultimately if he comes back um but and there's you know if he if he doesn't

then you're just asking for an extension that's all no no we're not changing the rules after what do you mean i'm so confused right now my wager was that he was not retiring he was not he was not he was not leaving football okay now he is retired but he's opened the door did you hear the beginning of the new set up here? No, I know the story. He said never say never. So if he, let's say he announces next February, I'm back. I believe, I don't think you can have, then the spirit of the wager. He did retire, though. I mean, that was. Did he file the papers? He didn't use the word in his post. He said stepping away. Has he filed papers? I don't understand why an extension hurts. If you, if you honestly feel your take remains valid that he's done, and once he

thought about it. Can we table that and think about it? The point was he going to retire, and he did. He did the little thing. I am concerned, though, as a fan and a fan of sandwiches, which I never tend to get, that if he's already talking like this, because the more you, I did listen to a clip of it, the more you listened to it, it was like, oh, man, he's like had a week. He's already, like, sounding like he already misses it.

He's like, well, you never know what challenges are going to pop up, and it's like, one week at home already did that for you what did i say a two two two separate programs about the tom brady thing that i simply dismiss the idea that he's going to this is someone from the neck up who like his livelihood his passion has been seeking like mountaintop experiences i'm totally with you four days at home he's probably like i don't i'm i love being around my family but this is not going to fulfill tom right like all the retirement stuff like after watching his own funeral on TV for a week. Or he was kind of like,

how quickly do you become bored if you're Tom Brady? In this situation. It's like they don't, they don't. I just feel like it's not as a, the prop is not as cut and dry as you. I'm willing to table it and think about it. I have to unpack everything that's happening. It's not at the top of my list. We do have some breaking news though.

How much? How much is about it? Ricky related to all this, which I think is important. Oh, it went breaking. Ricky went there. The Stitcher Top 100 sports show rankings around the NFL coming in at 19th, sometimes we're higher, sometimes. Top 20? Okay. The Let's Go podcast hosted by Tom Brady, not in the top 100.

So he's going to have to keep this story going to really help out the podcast. It's not really helping them break through at this point. I mean 19th, though, like if you were like, if you were college football, and it's like you rank 19th, like, you just a schmoe if you're going to. into those games. I don't think it's good enough. I will never be happy. A lot of times we're like 10 to 15.

Are you in sports? We're declining. In sports overall. We're in decline phase. Let's try to get back in the top 10. Let's work on that. Right ahead of the ringer NFL show, they're right across the way so we could just kind of go over there.

Cut their wires? Yeah, do something. Let's do some pranks throughout radio. I like that. A bunch of 40-something guys running around, unplugging things and giggling, pouring water on equipment. He-h-oh, I just put your computer in a bowl of porridge. Porridge?

Hey, let's hit 8 o'clock delight. Porridge is back in 2022. Torge, and what was the quote, Rachel, put it out. NFL Network's Ian Rapp report reports that the Packers are expected to hire Rich Vasatia as their special team's coordinator. Obviously, Basatia maybe got an unfair shake from the Raiders. He lands on his feet with a great organization. It's another thing.

can't complain about. Like, we had a problem. Look at how we fixed it. Don't keep the kicker, please. Joe Judge has been hired as an offensive assistant for the Patriots. Josh McDaniels out the door after years running that show. I also heard Adam Gase connected to New England, but maybe Judge is the failed New York coach hired in this cycle.

I don't like this idea that it's like, oh, let's build up Joe Judge's resume by letting him be an offensive coach. Speaking of the New York Giants, Don Wink Martindale lands on his feet, as you might expect. Top defense for years with Wink in Baltimore. And now he takes over the Giants who needed to replace Patrick Graham after he went and took the D.C. job for the Raiders. See how it's all connected?

I think Patrick Graham is a really good coach who did a good job with the Giants. But Wink Martindale immediately gives the Giants identity. I like getting some of these guys out of the AFC East. We're finally getting rid of these Belichick disciples. Gus Bradley lands with the Indianapolis Colts. I don't really know any more about that, Greg. You want to hit the audience to that one? I mean, Gus Bradley's bounced around.

I think he's done a good job as a coordinator. He did a decent job in the Raiders. It's a sensible fit. And finally, in the news. Former Chargers, co-workers, Frank Reich, and Gus Bradley. He's back, baby. Hit it, Ricky. Ladies and gentlemen, for one night only, Sashi.

Ah, Frags. Where's Frags? Hopefully we see her this week. Our great voiceover artist with NFL media, Sashi Brown is leaving monumental sports. I don't know what that is. And the NBA's Washington Wizards to return to the NFL as president of the Baltimore Ravens

announced Friday, Brown, 45 years old. becomes the third president in Ravens history replaces Mark? Dick Cass, your buddy, who turned 76 last month, retiring after serving in that role for 18 years. Mark, there is a lot. Now I know Sashi hasn't been connected to the Browns in years now. A lot of Browns-related movement all around our league. Well, I think they have a competent front office now, so you start to pull from that.

But it's like when Sashi Brown was a thing for us and a thing for the Browns, and they were trying to do something unlike every other team. Now Sashi Brown just kind of fits in any front office because it's a copycat scenario, and like everyone seems to have their version of Sashi. Of course, he's going to go to the Ravens. You want the real thing? Well, everything that the Ravens, you know, do turns to gold.

So I'm sure, you know. Are you a little, I don't know, disappointed that he would leave the Wizards high and dry right before the trade deadline? Well, what about monumental sports? Well, I think that's the company that owns the Wizards and the Mistak. Yes, Greg. That part of it does not, that doesn't sit well with me. But he got a promotion.

He's the president now. I mean, he's above Eric DeCosta, the GM on the org chart. Now, he's not probably going to be making draft picks, but he's definitely making that bank and doing some business. I know that matters to you. Where does monumental sports? How do they recover from this? Do they have a succession plan? What happens when a moon crashes into our earth?

It's like that kind of aftermath to deal with for the monumental sports. They also own the capitals, monumental sports. That, you know, they've had a Stanley Cup trophy recently. It leaves the nation's capital in absolute uproar. How about the Pentagon, Mark? I know you have strong feelings. Well, they're getting what they deserve on some level. All right.

A little comeuppance for the nation's defense. Oh, look at our building. It's focal point. Look how our building is shaped. A lot of commanders in Washington, D.C. Those are the Pentagon. Famous. All right.

I wanted to hit Greg's Super Bowl QB rankings list, but we ran out of time. Oh, I got a bone to pick her. Okay, we've got a long week of shows. Yeah, we got a show coming up Wednesday. Oh, let me guess. Joe Namath isn't high enough. No, it's not, that's not even the beginning. That's not even the beginning of it.

That's not even the beginning of what's wrong with your list. Yikes. What a tease. Actually, I don't really, I don't have too many strong takes, but that's a good way to sell it. I have major issues with Greg's Super Bowl QB list, and I'll share them later this week on the Around the NFL podcast. I'm in Stitcher. Up the rankings. Yeah, just gripping. Chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop. Do your graph sound. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, ming, ming. All right, we'll save that for later in the week. Mark, you can unplug from the socket now because we don't want to overcharge

you. We got a long week. You're a live wire. It's Super Bowl week. Yeah, at this point, I completely unplug. I go home, do nothing work related, then return here tomorrow when they tell me on prompt on time on the clock i do like the vision of we literally unplug mark and then he just powers down right in that couch and stays there till we come back tomorrow morning it's not far away that was like a video we did for one of those peckham shows remember i unplugged you guys and covered you with that was a good bit if we if you had that as an offer mark not the unplug part but let's say we were like you can sleep here on this couch mark you don't have to go back home you can actually just live here for the rest of the week there there's bad

bathrooms around. Don't have to go through security again. Yeah, facilities. I know, but everyone could see me while I'm sleep. Where do I change and do the rest of it? You wear the same stuff every day anyways. Well, I'm taking you to the Human Resources area, too. I don't like that comment.

That's about my appearance and my physical appearance. And we, by the way, we had a really great time together on Saturday celebrating Chris Wessling. It was the one year anniversary of his passing. And I thought one of the more cute, like the cutest moments in ATN. history was, I believe it was Greg tucking in, Mark on that couch. Gonzo was tucking me in. And then I've drifted off into a nice sleep until Colleen banged her entire body into the

glass porch door which she did not realize was open. So the aforementioned when I defeated Nick Wesleying 21 to 17 and one-on-one cornhole, the game was reaching a fever pitch and Nick was starting to get tense. And he did the same thing that West used to do when you play cornhole. things start to go sideways oh man i'm drunk i am so drunk he's like all right just and he really wasn't he really wasn't he really wasn't anyway less than you so yeah we're about to do a little uh throw and then there's a shotgun blast and it is connie fox barreling into a glass partition tiny little time the tiny box all five three hundred and seven pounds slams into the glass at high velocity a larger person would have shattered that

So maybe it's a fortunate situation. But she said she will be on the red carpet with a pair of bruised knees. She's about 40 yards away from us on a neighboring set. She did say that she had two black and blue knees. I would love to have her. Should we yell? One, two, three. Colleen.

Colleen. Wait, is she really going to come? I don't know. She definitely had the look in her eye of like I'm getting out of her. No, she literally was like, we'll do lunch. Like that means, no. She's so famous. I got to admit, though, first of all, it sounded like the over.

Oklahoma City, like, bombing or whatever. It was so loud. It was so loud. But I got to admit, there is something that separates Colleen from, like, for myself, for instance. She's an on-air personality at the highest levels for a reason. She bounced back, because no one watched her walk in, but it had to have been extremely painful. It was extremely loud. And within a half second later, we all look over, and she was just like, oh, don't mind me. Just walking into the door and then open the door, cool as the key.

cucumber like she recovered very well from the circumstance here she comes by the way from the circumstance here the music oh okay we can there she comes hey take a see we had to ask you about something real quick look at her we happen to be what we happen to be it's just be two minutes we we were wrapping up and dan was telling one of our favorite stories um from saturday from saturday afternoon the sound of a uh let's let her get situated here a shotgun blast goes off And the tiny box nearly imploded. Take us through it. How are you feeling right now?

Are you day to day? What are you listed for the Super Bowl? Yeah, it's doubtful. But no, I, every day it's getting a little bit better. I've been putting more weight on my leg when I walk. But the whole situation, it all happened so fast, Dan. And it was a very early morning for me that day. I was up for good morning football.

football weekend. Sure. True. And just power through the rest of the day with you guys. Long day. Long day. And you know what? Sometimes glass, it's so clean that you just, you see right through it. So it's really a testament to Lakeisha keeping her house in great order. Or maybe it's her fault. Maybe that's where you were going with that. The problem was the glass really hit my knee quickly. And it's really the glass's fault. It's not, I wouldn't blame this on my knee. But what I need is probably one of those. stickers that like people that that are on skyscrapers for birds so they don't run into the windows I probably need that on every glass door well you're a warrior we gave you a lot of credit though

in the peanut gallery you recovered quickly you made a quick joke of it you didn't linger you got right into there just like oh don't mind me just walking into the door once she got on the other side of glass because I could see in she had her face buried in her hand she's like I just made a fool of myself right it could have been a devastating moment that lingered but you moved on quickly I was impressed with And I, like, I had drifted off to sleep on that couch, and, like, I was having a dream about being, like, in a, in the forest or something. It was gone to it had tucked me in. And then, bang, like, I mean, that part of it was, I mean, does that weigh on you that you woke a friend from sleep?

I did. I did. I did. was texting with Lakeisha and then all of a sudden I get a text from Dan that's like I'm in bed ha ha and it was 930 and I was like oh wow that's kind of my dream yeah yeah so my I just didn't get the gentle kiss on the forehead from Gonzo the way you did Mark I know well I got I went in with certain good night sweet prince I went in with the goal and I achieved my goal 1977 as an American sports writer who's mayor to NFL media

broadcaster John tucking in Mark was a very sweet moment yeah we're gonna need some some photoshop so that all right Listeners sent to us on Twitter, please. Colleen, you said it all. I have. You didn't even have to say much this time. No, that's all I needed to say. You'll see Colleen.

Colleen sent me her schedule for the week, and it's outrageous how in demand she is right now. So even getting her for a few minutes on the couch, that is good stuff. For you guys, anything. We love it. All right. And, yes, we have a show coming up tomorrow. Another show on Friday, our Super Bowl 56 preview, the Around the NFL broadcast will air on Friday, Saturday. check your local listings

and that's it for now so thank you to everyone for listening and until Wednesday you do the thing that Chris Wesleying told us to do you know it is

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