NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Raiders-Rams Recap + Week 14 Odds & Ends (with Rachel Bonnetta)

Episode Date: December 9, 2022

A virtual room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal and Rachel Bonnetta share their final thoughts before a weekend of football action. First, we recap the wild Raiders-...Rams Thursday night matchup. Then, it's Dan's turn on "It's About ME!" We interact with our listeners, go through last-minute injury updates, and finally, sign off with our final predictions for Week 14.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:45 I got a cat just brought a feral cat snuck into the prison and climbed right across Mark's work desk. So that's good. It seems like the penal commons. is letting felines in now. So that's cool. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, the great Rachel Bonetta. What's up, everybody? This is my favorite part of the Friday fun show is watching Mark's face when the cat gets too close. This is utter aggravation. I am dealing with a small amount of space. So there isn't a lot of room for the cat to roam. Well, those are the consequences for your actions on the outside.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Like you trade in space. I'm willing to, I'm willing to accept. up to, you know. And the right to vote. I will say, you guys, since I've been coming on this pod and talking about people reaching out via jail messenger, the message requests have skyrocketed. I messaged you guys a couple of weeks ago, actually with screen grabs, more kept flowing in. So I need you guys to know there are people in jail that listen to this podcast. That's incredible. Highest rated jail podcast. I don't know where they're getting it. I don't know if they're listening to the toilet. But it's out there, baby. And it just flying up. with like so much pride.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I mean, for the first time in my life, I feel like I have some edge because I'm the host of a show that's listened to in prison. Absolutely, you do. Where else would these requests come in from? You know, they like trickle in once every few months. But then since I've started talking about it,
Starting point is 00:03:17 since Mark has gone to said jail, just the requests have just been flying off the shelves. Have you, have you corresponded with any of these? No. I'm assuming mostly males in jail. No. but I do Google their names and it is frightening to read about
Starting point is 00:03:31 any hotties? Any like sneaky backdoor hotties? Sure. All of them. I'm going to say nice things about all of them because I'm not sure how long they're going to be in jail for but some of them are scary and have done frightening things. So here's the cool thing about the Friday Fun Show if you've never listened to it before. Yes, you get an insight into Mark's prison life. Do you have a cat by the way, Mark? Is that what's going on? No, no, no. I do not know. I'm watching someone's cat while they're away.
Starting point is 00:03:56 currently so it's not mine i wouldn't i just i the cat was also there multiple weeks ago too yeah but i've done a few times it keeps on getting more mysterious i just i would not even know how to how to purchase a cat so i can promise you it's just it's a chore that i'm back alley yeah uh yes the friday fun show is a live stream it's a podcast of course but right now at 10 a m pacific time one p.m eastern five or something in england and the surrounding territories uh we are connected with our listeners. And I see it is going off to the right in the stream. So we'll keep you guys involved. And thank you as always for jumping on and being part of this show coming up today. We have predictions for week 14. It's about me. It's about me. And I have something to
Starting point is 00:04:48 share about someone who deserves a little love. But before that, let's open the book. Like through the book, Sessler and said, we're going to fix you. That cold play song, when you went into the can, Mark, I just played that on loop. But I was thinking about the federal, like, penitentiary system fixing you when you come out, you'll be whole again. Right, Winif Paltrow, not the dad, Gwyneth Paltrow stuff, Mark in the can. Scare me straight. Let's do a TNF recap, a really funky, interesting TNF.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Rams have to go 98 yards without a timeout 23 remaining 15 seconds Mayfield flings it left side end zone caught by man Jefferson with nine seconds remaining touchdown LA Mayfield combat maker
Starting point is 00:05:48 the touchdown maker I don't know if any of us will cut feeling dangerous but we're all going to sleep, feeling dangerous. J.B. Long. Love you, J.B. What a fantastic call. The former Browns fan. And what a ride it's been.
Starting point is 00:06:10 That is the voice of the Rams, J.B. Long, who nailed that call. J.B. sometimes hard on himself because he holds himself to a high standard. But I'm sure he went to sleep not just feeling dangerous, but feeling really good. that he is very qualified and excellent at that job. Great call. Baker, what a bizarre career trajectory for Mayfield, the one-time savior of the Browns and finally a solution to their quarterback room.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Things fell apart in Cleveland. He goes to Carolina, washes out there, claimed on waivers earlier this week, and then basically placed the full game on Thursday night, two days later, after John Wolford strangely played one series. That was weird, too. And the game was going as everyone expected it to go. Rams and the Raiders in total control, 16-3 late in the game.
Starting point is 00:07:02 But two late touchdowns, including, yes, an absolutely memorable, forever memorable 98-yard drive cap by that Van Jefferson touchdown. Mark, I'll start with you. The bakerness of it all made it even more exciting. And just I'll throw it to you because I know no one was more investment. and in Baker as an NFL player than you. How did it feel watching him here? Incredible. I mean, I think it goes beyond Baker
Starting point is 00:07:32 where, like, suddenly you remember why football is so unpredictable and bizarre in a wonderful way. I mean, 98 yards is the same length of drive that John Elway used to execute the Browns back in January of 97 in the drive. And, you know, this was obviously of a different magnitude.
Starting point is 00:07:50 You essentially removed the Raiders from the AFC, that matters. But to watch Baker-Mafield do that, after he went through, you know, he flew to town on Tuesday, they said that he ran through a 10-play pass practice and a 10-run-play practice with players he's never worked with.
Starting point is 00:08:08 With an offensive line that's had 12 different combinations in 13 games, wide receivers he's never thrown to. That final drive, I mean, there was, initially he throws the interception. It's removed by a pass interference. Max Crosby could have ended the game with that sack. you get a penalty on the Raiders on that and then the big plays happen and it's just like I'm just watching it unfold and for Baker itself for him the person I mean people have their
Starting point is 00:08:33 strong feelings about Baker Mayfield but to me it was the example of a football player that's been doubted entirely and we see the we see this all the time with quarterbacks his career essentially was written off I mean I think even on our Tuesday show we talk about the fact he'll never be a starter again and he'll never be anyone's backup potentially because of the personality side of it. And then two days later, he's executing the Raiders on national television. I don't think Sean McVeigh had any idea what was going on in terms of the scope of it. He's talked about afterwards, like, we didn't plan for that. I'm literally, it's one of the football things where I'm at a loss for words because it's one of those sports moments where it's like,
Starting point is 00:09:10 okay, that just happened. And he threw pinpoint passes after looking like a defunct quarterback in Carolina. I have no explanation. It's just one of the marvelous aspects to the NFL. I want to hear Rachel on this because she was as big a Baker fan in Cleveland as I know outside of Mark Sessler and she's listening to Mark just like as if he's telling a beautiful Christmas tale like around the hearth like Baker came and gave us the Christmas miracle Rachel was hoping for I feel like you make a lot of good points Baker is like and I know some people are going to like snicker at this but I feel like Baker is the kind of friend you know when you just like meet somebody. and you're like, oh, they're just, there's something about them. There's like a sparkle to them. There's just something different. And whether you're turned off by that sparkle, like the beer chugging, the smash in his head against everyone, please sweet Jesus stop doing that.
Starting point is 00:10:02 It's very terrifying. But there's just something about him that just really, if you just let the feelings flow, you can really fall in love with the guy. And Mark, you were mentioning that he only went through 10 past plays, 10 running plays. On top of all of that, he did that. with dudes that probably don't really like him. Like Bobby Wagner was asked about him this coming week and he's like, I don't want to talk about him.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Like if he's going to help our team, he's going to help our team, but otherwise I have nothing to say about him. Like that's not really like, you know what? I like Baker and I'm happy he's here. And you could kind of see, albeit he was headbutting people without a helmet, but you could kind of see people being like, like stay away from me. Like there's still probably, you know, I think it's safe to say and I don't want to assume too much, but I think it's safe to say that the majority of players in the NFL probably
Starting point is 00:10:47 don't like Baker Mayfield. Same with like the majority of people who watch NFL probably don't really like Baker Mayfield. Yet he comes into this situation, got there when he was, I don't know if you guys watched the post game, but he like asked earnestly like, what time is it? And someone was just like 815. He's like, cool, I arrived at 715 on Tuesday. Like it is actually, it's one of the, I was watching and I was like looking around. I was like, this is why I love football.
Starting point is 00:11:11 This is why I love football is because crazy stuff like this can happen. the pressure of the world is on this guy's shoulders, even though we're all like, he came here on Tuesday. He's not going to do anything. And yet, Sean McVeigh was happier winning that game than he was winning the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You could see it in his face. He did not celebrate like that in February. He did not. I think it meant a lot to him. That was like, I bet you there was a moment last night that he was like, that's why I came back.
Starting point is 00:11:41 That's why I turned down the bagillion dollars to do television was to win games like this with people, like Baker Mayfield. Let those emotions just wash over you buy in because it is so much fun to cheer for this guy. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And that's like enough. I don't know what's going to happen moving forward. I think that's an interesting part of the story, but I don't need it to be interesting. Like last night was enough. The difference between McVeigh last night in his reaction in February is he didn't just have the most miserable two and a half months of his life
Starting point is 00:12:13 coming into February. He had been on top of the world since he ended. entered the NFL, the most winning coach in the NFL other than Bill Belichick since he entered the league. And he was flying high and that was amazing. It was all part of the story that Sean McVey had in his head. Losing six games seems like the most miserable thing he's ever had. And to be down 16-3 with five minutes to go. And we can go through all the million different things that had to happen for the Raiders to lose this game. Just the outpouring of emotion to go that low to that high that quickly is right. I think you guys hit it well. Like why I love football, because it wasn't really
Starting point is 00:12:50 about the stakes. You don't need to have a good game for it to be incredibly dramatic. Like, you're not getting a regular season game in other sports three quarters into the season with similar stakes that can feel that emotionally exciting. And I'll remember it forever because I was out on the town doing some Christmassy stuff. We got Daddy Christmas, we call it, in the house on Saturday. because my family's leaving town early. So we're out doing some Christmas stuff. We were at the Grove here and there. And we were actually listening to that call by J.B. Long.
Starting point is 00:13:25 And you guys know my daughter Alice is a massive fan. And so we were on our way back listening to it in the radio. And our car exploded with joy when that happened. And we got into the car at the exact perfect spot. It was still 16 to 3. And to hear that comeback and hear the excitement in J.B.'s voice, who we're friends with, like, I'll never forget that. It really did feel like a Christmas miracle.
Starting point is 00:13:48 It's been a long year for not just, you know, Sean McVay or Baker Mayfield. Everyone connected with the Rams, including J.B. Long. I mean, this is one of the worst title defenses we've seen in recent Super Bowl memory. So for them to have this kind of big fun moment in prime time. And Gravedigger called it on the text chain yesterday. The last game we saw in the NFL was a game where, a team, the Saints, was comfortably head 16 to 3 late in the game and kept toying with their opponent instead of just putting them away. And they give up two late touchdowns in the last
Starting point is 00:14:24 five minutes and lose 17, 16. It's almost like a simulation. And it makes you wonder if this is even legit. I think the one thing, Rachel, I disagree with you on is Baker, I don't think had the pressure of the world on him. I think part of the reason. You might be right. I think no one expected anything from him. In fact, you know, it was basically disregarded that he could help the team in any way because he didn't even know the names of his teammates, let alone the playbook. And you just got to give it, give him credit. I don't, like, it doesn't change how I feel about him as a player. I don't think he's any good. But I think there is something about Baker. And it's kind of ironic because I think it's the same thing with O'Dell. And they famously did not get along
Starting point is 00:15:06 well in Cleveland together. But he does have that something that, that, that, that's the Nuzet Kwa. as it were that that does separate him from other quarterbacks and you could see that like they did a good job on the amazon well they didn't do everything well on the amazon i wasn't crazy about their post game show but they did a nice job flying up all the different tweets all across the sports spectrum of people just being you know the baker is the the game doesn't necessarily match the name but he is a name brand and uh i think people do get excited watching him so it's going to be interesting to see what happens next with that and just before we kind of We should talk about the Raiders, because obviously I've been talking the Raiders
Starting point is 00:15:45 is a team that could get back into the playoff race. That's over now. This is an unprecedented season of collapses. They are the first team since at least 1930 to lose four times in a season when leading by double digits at halftime. And that's an impossible, an impossible game to lose. And Mark mentioned some of it. You had the, the I&T, you know, a beautiful punt pins them at the two-yard line.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And the Rams don't have any timeouts. The game is over then. The only way to lose that game then is to literally hand the game to the other team. And they did this. They had an I&T wiped away by a PI. It was the right call. A mindless Jerry Tilleri penalty after the Crosby sack that instead of the clock running and the game being over essentially at that point, stops the clock and gives them a first down and 15 yards.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And then Baker did say on the post game show, I won't even mention they have third in one with a chance to end the game. and they can't get a yard and leading to that punt. Baker on the post game show says he could not believe that they're playing press coverage in that situation and not zone. And they end up leaving Van Jefferson on an island against the overmatched young cornerback. And it's just like maybe it's not just bad luck. Maybe it's bad coaching.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Maybe it's things here. There's a reason that they're in an unprecedented gag cycle, this Raiders team. So I think both sides of the story are incredibly competitive. telling obviously Baker and the ramp side of it and the Raiders having an unprecedented season. Well, I think the Raiders emphatically announced to everyone observing the game, we aren't for real. And they're losing the close games they've lost. It all bakes into the coaching. It all has a lot to do with it. And like I feel like with this team, they aren't the sum of their parts. That's bad coaching to me. There are stars all over the Raiders and they simply don't show up.
Starting point is 00:17:37 and I think to be on the bottom end of the game like last night is a perfect way for their season to end because we went down the list of who they play between now and the end of the year and the Rams game we just automatically they'll win that and they might even beat the Niners because the Niners have issues right now it's like forget all that. Handle your own business.
Starting point is 00:17:54 They haven't handled their own business all year long. Here's the thing though, Mark, I think they could beat the Niners. I think this is a strange team. That's fine, but now it's not because they're a quality team. It doesn't matter. Now it doesn't matter because they didn't take care of their business. No, and I don't, I think you're, If you're honest with yourself, if you're a part of the Raiders organization,
Starting point is 00:18:11 I'm not sure you have the right coach. We don't even know anything about the GM. I'm not sure you have the right quarterback because Derek Carr to me is the same experience year after year after year. It doesn't matter who's around him. And like the fact that was a night for Devante Adams to have one of his big games and really would end up with 77 yards. It's like you just got outclassed by a Rams team that has literally traveled through hell
Starting point is 00:18:32 for six straight weeks and has had a quarterback on the roster for 37 hours. and just executed you with 98 yards and a minute and a half to go. That's on you, Raiders. What about the Colts lost, too? Not only they get beat by the guy. Yeah, they get beat by the guy that's been in town for a day. They also got beat by the Jeff Saturday Colts. Like, I don't know how you, if your ownership, you don't smell something foul going on with this team.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But, you know, they'll have plenty time to figure that out. I feel like Derek Carr is, I always kind of like listening to his post-game press conferences, because he's either like crying or like saying so he has interesting post game press conferences like I feel like he actually says something I didn't even want to see it last night it was like you know Croatia and Brazil that penalty shootout Brazil just got kicked out of the World Cup they're all crying on the ground I'm like get them off the field I don't see this I want to see the winners I didn't listen to it last night Max Crosby said after the game he just feels bad for the fans that's how he ended his long monologue on it and I that is you know at least there's an ownership there that
Starting point is 00:19:36 you just buried your fan base basically for three months straight this year. I don't think Carr is going to be on this team. I'm confident Josh McDaniels will be back. I really think last night helped set up Tom Brady maybe getting there. It's getting ahead of ourselves. But it should not be forgotten. The game absolutely turned on one of the worst interceptions of the year by Derek Carr late in the first half. And that what, you know, having known how the game is going to end and then getting to it
Starting point is 00:20:01 and then rewatching and knowing all the things that had to happen for this to happen. I mean, that was the moment. It was just to play your shock Derek Carr made. And the Raiders, this game played into all their worst tendencies, which is I think they're extremely safe. I think Josh McDaniel is extremely safe. I think Derek Carr is extremely safe. You can kind of see it that they never turn the ball over.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Typically, they're among the best in the league at that. But you saw like they're running on third and five to set up field goals. They're throwing little screen passes in the red zone on third and nine to set up field goals. And then Derek Carr makes that one big mistake. And you mentioned it, Dan, they couldn't get one yard either when they needed it in the fourth quarter. That was Bobby Wagner making some massive plays. He's been awesome. So he should get some love for darting in there and getting them the ball back.
Starting point is 00:20:46 What a game. Good for Al Michaels, too. I was really starting to feel bad for. I think he had a great line. He did a podcast recently. And I think he called, yeah, some of the schedule has been leaky, I think was the word he used. Did some leaky games this year. And this one was for most of it.
Starting point is 00:21:03 and then it turned into one that everyone will remember forever. We got to check in now. Let's keep moving. It's the fun show. Let's check in with the viewers, listeners, whatever. John Case, I need to hear what Dan would do if Baker was a jet next year. It's not going to happen. Here, this is the one thing I'll say, don't get sucked in by this performance
Starting point is 00:21:22 and thinking Baker is a player. He's not. Christopher Townsend. Dan would absolutely loathe having Baker as a jet. I think Dan would rather the Jets re-signed Donald. You're damn right. You know I love Sam Donald. Sam Darnel is not doing that last night though
Starting point is 00:21:34 I'll tell you that much No but he also doesn't get fired by every team he's on Kyle Malenkov was that performance enough to bring Baker back next season He's got four more weeks Go ahead I want to say something You know I think that when I said Baker
Starting point is 00:21:51 has got the pressure of the world Maybe not the world but it probably feels like that Because he's probably put so much pressure on himself And I just think for most human beings Like I was thinking, I was out and about for the first quarter and I was driving in my car and I was listening to the game and I was like, I think, I hope that Baker sees a therapist. I hope that he is able to talk to somebody, you know, besides our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, every single week because he probably has all of this pressure on himself. And the fact that he's able to still come out and play football when the world hates him, I think it's actually like a miraculous human feat in my opinion. And those passes weren't lucky.
Starting point is 00:22:30 They were nice throws to Squarnik early in the first half. They could add more points if Acres didn't fumble it. But he's got four weeks to try to prove that he could come back next season. We don't know if Matthew Stafford's going to be back. He could be back to the Rams as a backup. But I almost think it doesn't matter. Reminded me a little bit of that Cam Newton game when he came back. And like for one week, it was just a great moment and great story.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I don't need Baker to like turn this into a great second act for that to this game to be memorable. Yeah, same. What else we got? Our tickets sold out for the live show in January. Yes, the homecoming, ATN homecoming January 18th at the Bourbon Room in Hollywood, go to Ticketmaster. I don't think there's many left. No, we've been getting updates, and they're tracking toward being sold out probably before Christmas, but not sold out yet. So go get it.
Starting point is 00:23:19 How about a nice Christmas gift to your significant other in prison? One more question. uh who has failed the preseason predictions more judy elmore asks the a fc west or the nfc west oh i would say i would have to go a fc west because i think that the failure of the denver broncos is um above anything else we've seen league wide i mean what we were thinking about the broncos four or five months ago and what they are um no one saw coming it is a catacomal it's an absolute car crash of the highest nature you know you know you know how the NFL didn't see it coming their centerpiece on christmas day which last year i think was the
Starting point is 00:24:02 most watched football day of the year is rams broncos so and mark i i was going to say you weren't on the show yesterday but the mark bot really did fill in and uh really in an efficient manner i would say it was like posting a passer rating of 110 to 120 uh and i said i had a similar thought that the broncos and russell wilson's absurd struggles this year to me is the the biggest surprise and one of the crazy storylines in the league this year. Just wild. All right. Hit it. Braver. It's about me. Ooh, give me that tambourine. Here's a quote. I feel like I'm playing the best football of my career right now.
Starting point is 00:25:07 That's Jared Gough. The date is January 21st, 2021, and the Lions sent Matthew Stafford, their franchise pillar, to the Rams in exchange for Los Angeles' first round draft pick in 2022. 2023, a third round pick in 2021, and quarterback Jared Goff. And at the time, Goff was a throw-in to make the trade make more sense, and the Lions took on the salary for Goff, so the Rams could then make it work with Stafford and give him the big extension that he signed shortly thereafter. And nobody thought much of it beyond that.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Everything after that trade was about the Rams going all in. And the Lions doing their thing, maybe tanking and goff sucking while they tank, and then they go get their new quarterback in the draft. That hasn't happened, at least not yet. Because the Lions have one of the best offenses in the NFC. And we're giving a lot of credit to Offensive Corner of Ben Johnson, head coach Dan Campbell, the skill players there. The offensive line.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Jared Goff? Not so much. I don't hear a lot about Jared Goff. And people crediting a man who, written off by the football world, we talk about writing off Baker. Everybody wrote off Jared Goff too, a guy that actually went to a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And right now he's projected this season, if he continues his production, to complete 65% of his passes for nearly 4,300 yards, 27 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, a pass rating near 96. Are those superstar numbers? No. But man, those are pretty good.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And when you put him up, you see how he understands and runs one of the best offenses in the AFC. I think you've got to give him some love. Then there's things like this. Oh, Dan, you're just cherry picking this moment in time because they've won four or five. Yeah, and his last five games, check him out.
Starting point is 00:27:18 All the numbers are basically the same. The only thing that's changed during this winning run, he's not throwing interceptions. He hasn't thrown an interception in four games, which is the best run of his career. And, you know, when you look at what's going on with this salary, he makes $25 million, he's due to make $25 million each of the next two years, which you might say, whoa, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:27:41 That's too much. That's gross. Well, next year, Aaron Rogers is going to make $59.5 million. DeShan Watson, who's behind him, will make $46 million, a home's $40 million. Goff makes a very manageable salary for a quarterback in the range of what Carson Wentz makes with the commanders. So I find Goff's success strangely underplayed this season. I think the lines are in a very similar boat to the Seattle Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:28:10 They both have high draft picks coming from Blockbuster trades where they can go get a quarterback, but both might want to think about maybe keeping the guy in house and then using that trade either to take on another big time talent in the top five or if there's a team desperate enough for it, a quarterback loading up with a godfather type deal and getting multiple picks in return for a team that needs a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:28:36 So Jared Guff, who feels like he's playing the best football of his career, I see you, buddy. I hope that counts for something. Thank you. I love it. Let's put them back on another hard knocks or all or nothing. But we don't need to do that.
Starting point is 00:28:57 We don't need to do it. Come on. I want to see what kind of like chipping setup he has in Detroit, like a little golf set. And the lines, by the way, if you remember early in the season when everything was going to hell, Campbell kind of called out Goff and said he needs to play better. And he absolutely has. And Greg, I know we've talked about Goff. I brought him up a little bit this year.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And there's usually some pushback from you. I'm not saying that he's a star quarterback, but it is just interesting to think about it. If you take a step back, if you have a quarterback that's a relative bargain and the offense is running with this efficiency, like, is that something you want to mess with in the attempt to find something better
Starting point is 00:29:35 and in the great unknown? It's a decision, I think, for Detroit. No, I don't think you do. I think 25 million is a good deal, and I think it puts them in a perfect spot. Their rebuilding effort, especially if they can win a few more games here, is perfect because I think you keep
Starting point is 00:29:49 Jared Goff, and if you do like a quarterback that high, you do probably take him. And at some point he's going to play, but you're not going to need to feel the need to play him right away, especially when you're trying to make the playoffs. I think golf is like the perfect transitional quarterback for the Lions where if you get, you draft someone top five, whatever, and top 10, and golf is the kind of guy that's not, is going to be a good mentor and friend to a younger quarterback, which doesn't happen with Aaron Rogers and other people. We know that. And you don't have to start someone else week one. You can have golf in there for another full season. Like I think he's also, if you look at like football outsiders has certain metrics on these guys. Like his production has been absolutely
Starting point is 00:30:30 off the charts over what they would have expected for golf. So it's been a, he's, I think, like Baker's thing is like a micro. Like what happened with Baker last night is a small little like advertisement for his career. But what golf's done this season is like, yes, he could be someone else's starter. He could be the lion starter. He certainly has extended his career by years and years by what he's done, I think. But if you take a step back and take like a broader look at things, like I feel like golf is playing great, but I, not that I didn't like him before, but he has really gained like a lot of respect from me because think about what he's been
Starting point is 00:31:03 through the last few years. We all live in Los Angeles and no shade to Detroit. Detroit's a really cool city. Lots of good things about it. It's cold there right now. It's freezing cold. Could you imagine any of us packing our bags and moving to Detroit right now after living in sunny, beautiful Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Hitting them with the cold take in Detroit. And he's a California boy. I can say this. I can say this. And then to leave and then have your team who you probably love and have a lot of relationships on, go and win a Super Bowl after you leave. And then to go to Detroit who is like known for not being great the past few years. I really have a lot of respect for him right now for doing what he's done.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And I reached out to the research department guys because I'm a pro. Hey, can give me some goth nugs? Because I want to gas them up on the Friday show. And they very quickly, Ben McWilliams got back with some Goff nugs. He is one of only three players to have multiple games with four touchdown passes this season. Mahomes Allen are the other two. His passer rating and yards per attempt are both best since 2018. That was the Super Bowl year, I believe, with the Rams or maybe the year before.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And Gregi, help me out with this one. Jared Goff has 17 passing touchdowns at home this season, most in the NFL. where do the lions play against the Vikings this weekend? In Detroit, that's why we're all about the Motor City kitties and I drafted him first overall. The team of ADL. All right, let's check back in with the listeners
Starting point is 00:32:29 before we get to our predictions. Saboteur. Desmond Ritter's promotion to starter means that Mark will not have to do a show shirtless. Oh, damn it. I forgot about that. But that doesn't mean he can't do it anyways. That's true.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Well, I will not. A couple more buttons left. I think everyone wins with the result of that proposition. That is true. You're down three buttons there, buddy. What? That collar right now is flirting with a... That's how I always wear this shirt.
Starting point is 00:32:57 NC17. The great thing about doing remote broadcast is like no one has to know how this shirt smells. It's not been washed in like quite some time. Oh, come on. We don't have to go there. I'm just being honest. You're in jail. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:09 What else? Yeah. You're in jail for a reason. Peter's CSM question. How does Mark? like the Sunday games Neil and Graver selected for him. Yes, of course, if you miss the Thursday show,
Starting point is 00:33:20 amortize it if you've missed it. They, Neil jumped in from Sky Sports. Great job. Great bloke that Neil Reynolds. And did you see what games you have, Mark? I believe I had San Francisco and Tampa Bay, which I quite enjoy. The rest
Starting point is 00:33:35 escape, I don't recall what the others were. All right, so that means. Well, I think I had Dallas Houston. So I love that because there's a hype. There's a blowout potential which you got eagles giants i actually think he took exactly the games that you would have taken in the spot he is a dedicated listener that guy gets it now about nick dougan is this the biggest lion's game since their last playoff game right no because caldwell was trying to save his job and they were above 500 trying to make the playoffs five years ago those were big games but the biggest
Starting point is 00:34:06 game since then right do the lions have to win out do they have to win every single game that they have on the slate now or can they i think they could lose one more maybe Yeah, I mean, if they won out, they'd get in most likely. If they lost one more than, who knows, nine and eight could get you in the NFC. It puts an immense amount of pressure on them to basically run the table if they can't win this game. And also, yeah, there's, you know, tiebreaker stuff. This is an NFC matchup that affects things as well. Got to go get this dub.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Need it. I also feel like so many people are like lions or the Vikings are frauds. Like so many people want to see the lions. And the lines are favored by like last time I checked it was two. I don't know if it's gone up to two and a half. or anything, but like Josh do them all. I was seeing tweets from Josh to him all famous person. Famous famous person.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Vikings, Vikings fan. Oh, and he was not happy that the lines were favored. They are, you know what? I kind of get it. I would feel the same way, honestly, that they are in their feelings about everybody not buying in on them. But just how about you just enjoy being 10 and 2? Udi Sneeter,
Starting point is 00:35:06 60% G is also doing the 60% listening and 40% reading the comments. Is that true? I have been reading the comments. I've also been making sure I have all the last minute injury updates ready. All right. Good transition by the man they call the boss. And now it is time, ladies and gentlemen, for the Greg Rosenthal, Week 14, Injury Minute presented
Starting point is 00:35:29 by AccraShore, faith-based adult diapers. Trevor Lawrence was back at practice on Friday, which makes it sound like they're pretty hopeful he will start. And we're not going to get that game ruined by C.J. Bethard. Sequin Barkley is weirdly sounding like a game time decision. I don't like next stuff, Gregi. I don't like next stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I know. If I'm a fantasy owner, he did finish last week, which is usually a good sign, but that's worrisome. Leonard Fournette's out of practice. It's early. We don't know why. There's a lot of illness going around. Kenneth Walker and DJ Dallas, both out of practice for the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I'm thinking like they're trending towards not playing. Nico Collins and Derek Stingley are out for the Texans. Just figure the Texans should get a mention every once in a while. has been upgraded to a full participant. That is huge news for the Chargers. It really does sound like he'll be back. Cortland Sutton out most likely after missing practices for the Broncos, Jerry Judy, probably in.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Hayden Hurst, who's been good for the Bengals, is likely out after missing practices. Rondell Moore is likely out after missing practices for the Cardinals, which is a bummer. We've still never seen all the Cardinals receivers together. Traylon Burke's still in the concussion protocol. Deonté Johnson and T.J. Watt have been missing practice for Pittsburgh, so keep an eye on that watt seems a little more hopeful.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Matt Milano might be a game time decision. Cadarius Tony's back at practice for the Chiefs Christian Dara saws in the concussion protocol still, but is practicing. So he's got a chance for the Vikings. And then finally, one last little bit of thing I found interesting, they're not putting Jimmy Garoppolo on injured reserve, which to me says a lot and I think says they're hopeful that it's possible. They're keeping a roster spot open for him to return in the playoffs there.
Starting point is 00:37:12 that's nice. Wow, that's going to be insane. Isn't it cute? Don't you, isn't it easy to imagine Gregi who's loyal to football waking up in the morning and legitimately in a passionate way going through the injury reports because he just wants to know what's going on and like it excites him, even just going through the injury report and getting ready for the week to come. You like not usually if someone's doing an injury update, you don't feel that. But when Greg does it, you do. That's a guy that's excited. I also you guys play really hopeful music and you're just like talking about people who were in like concussion protocol. Yeah, the music's a little out of tune.
Starting point is 00:37:46 But I think Greg is sort of building a resume to be, you know, when this all melts away, a really wonderful sort of AM sports radio guy that comes in and gives you sort of a 2020 flash kind of vibe, you know. Someone did say in the comments that it's time for you to point the microphone toward you when you talk. That's a little broadcasting tip. Otherwise, you did great. You know, we've been moving this desk around.
Starting point is 00:38:07 We've had some changes in the bedroom. Still, still taping out of my bedroom. All right. Tell us more about the changes. is in your bedroom. No, just wear certain things. He's done.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Okay. All right, let's get into it. Fearless prediction times. Before we move to Sunday, we'll let you know what we think happens. Rageface. I get to go first.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Mm-hmm. Okay. This weekend, I think that our guy, Derek Carr, and I was not playing. Okay, I think that he hits up Twitter
Starting point is 00:38:37 and he sees people arguing about if Die Hard is a Christmas movie. He says, I've never watched Die Hard. Enough. So he turns it on. Hold on. I'm going somewhere with this. He turns it on. Okay. He decides it's not a Christmas movie. But when he goes to bed that night, he has no less than three dreams where Baker Mayfield is Hans Gruber and Derek Carr is Bruce Willis as John McLean. And also the Jets beat the bills. Oh, okay. Okay. You saved it. No, I like that. That's my prediction. There's no way that anyone can prove it didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Greggy I'm making mine simple I feel it's strong we're going to see a 40 burger from the Dolphins on Sunday night in a big win it's just going to kind of
Starting point is 00:39:23 be the end of these chargers and the dolphins reminding everyone it was one bad week we're going to embarrass this Chargers team you know Gregie I should point everybody I wasn't on the show last week but everybody got their predictions wrong you came so close
Starting point is 00:39:36 you said that Joe Burrow would throw three touchdowns and a Bengals win and Ty Boy dropping that wide... Maybe the drop of the year with Christian Watson cost you the prediction.
Starting point is 00:39:51 The spirit of it was right though. I got the spirit right. And so did Rachel. On game debut, we both had the Bengals winning. It was a nice W for Rachel. And Graver, I feel like it's unnecessary for you to... And I know you're doing your job.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Our predictions record is 11.5 out of 58th is absurd. That percentage is in... Great. I'll go next. I believe that Deshawn Watson is going to be an absolute mess against the rolling bangles who force Watson into multiple turnovers, let's say three turnovers at the minimum in a double-digit loss. There will be some calls to return Jacoby Reset to the lineup.
Starting point is 00:40:33 And don't worry about that. But Watson will enter week 15 feeling some pressure to appear, Somewhat, like the Superstar QB, the Browns sold their soul for. Love that. I'm with you. Mark Suss. Lock it up. All right, I have a four pack of probably utterly doomed predictions because I'm one of the big reasons where 11 and a half wins out of 58.
Starting point is 00:40:56 But Davis Mills, out of Effie Nowhere, looks like a mixture of 1990 Jim Kelly and Young Elvis mixed into one as the Texans nipped the Cowboys in a lone star state stunner. prediction number two, Brock Purdy throws three touchdowns but also three interceptions versus the bucks Rachel Bonnetta will meet somebody on Saturday who will change her life and our fourth prediction a coach will be fired
Starting point is 00:41:21 by the start of our Tuesday show lock it up change my life in a good way or change my life in a bad way? I can't see beyond Mark, come on. I mean I think that would be probably good I would say just to the risk
Starting point is 00:41:36 It feels like a coin flip, Rachel. I would say just lock your doors and stay under the covers. What if I got another email from somebody from a member of the Jail Society? Be open to it. Be open to it. All right. Thank you to everybody for checking in all the content this week. And, you know, Rachel Benetta, check out her podcast, Benched with Beneta, which is excellent.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Grave digger is the producer on that joint as well, all our NFL network stuff. And then we'll be back. Sunday with the flagship show. Anybody have anything, any parting words? We love you all. Thank you. Until. Everyone stay away for me on Saturday.
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