NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Reasons to hope for Non-Super Bowl teams

Episode Date: January 28, 2016

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling, Gregg Rosenthal and Colleen Wolfe – discuss all the latest news from around the NFL, including Bills general manager Doug Whaley saying the team isn’t ruling out drafting a quarterback in 2016, and Creedbombing going meta in Carolina. Then, the heroes talk about four non-super bowl teams that still have reason to hope despite missing out on Super Bowl 50. Finally, the heroes play a quick Super Bowl-themed game of “Who Do You Trust?” before catching up with Pro Bowl beat writer Conor Orr in Hawaii.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast is surprisingly frisky. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined by a room filled with heroes, teaming with heroes, even. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, Colleen Wolfe, and Greg Rosethol. What's up, boys? And girl, hey, Dan. Hey.

Hey, now. It's good to be back. Yeah, welcome back. Yeah. Last time you were in the studio, you were filling in for the old zooser. Uh-huh. And I got a lot of heat on Twitter about how good you were. Yeah, and then it's weird because then I wasn't on the show for two weeks.

Right. Coincidence? So. Put it together. That's just how the Han Zeus operation. Perhaps it's a little warning to you not to do too well. Just like, dumb it down like 30%. Duly noted.

Yes. From what I've seen out of Dan this morning, you don't want to go to war with him. Uh-uh. Oh. A couple things. This podcast is sponsored by Scott A Trade. Mark, do you like money? Yes, I do. Well, I'm sorry. I'm had to go to somebody else because you don't know how to do this advertisement. Would you like more money?

Yes, I would. I'll go see our friend. Yes, I will. Scott. Scott Trade. I feel like my version was better. It was more honest. I mean, it's just too many words. Is Scott a hero? I don't think you are listening, Dan. He wants you to speak very little words, Colleen.

Right. Right. Sorry. Everyone keep quiet. I am in the bad mood because I got an email this morning, probably about half an hour before the pod was, we went upstairs to tape the podcast from an employee of NFL. I only use initials, R.T. Subject, car, colon. Hello, Dan, comma.

Can you please move your car? You are parked in an incorrect. parking spot before we tow your car nice english we post cones in parking areas for a reason oh condescension r t where were you parked so an NFL right is sending another an email to another NFL employee threatening to have the city tow a car out of an NFL parking lot i responded okay that appeared to be a cluster of cones rather than a block of the spot nice word no signage i didn't see any signage you just thought there was some cones sitting around but that one was open i said i will head out in five minutes i waited about ten minutes just hoping someone was standing there

waiting for me nobody was there but i got my revenge so at that point the email came dan's head pops over his computer and says to Mark and me, I'm at war with the parking people of NFL. This isn't new either because this is the crazy thing about the parking here, and I won't get into it too much, is that we have a parking issue at NFL media. Oh, it's the worst. It's very bad, and it always comes up at the, what do they call those town halls.

They're like, oh, we're working on it. We just bought a building here. We just moved out of charity here. It's the next to 12 spaces coming late May. The short version is there's not enough parking spots for the amount of employees here. I can't get in or out. of my car. I have to crawl in

frequently from the passenger side too. I go into the sunroof. Yeah. So this, like, was an ongoing problem for years. I've been here for five and a half years. And they're always like, oh, we're working on it,

bought this, we bought that. And then what happens in the last three months or so? All of a sudden, there's cones going up and down one of the rows and then signs on the wall reserved. And then you could guess what kind of cars

are pulling in there. You know, all the stars, all the big studs. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I think that's totally, you know, that ain't right. They're moving down the common man rankings, I can tell you that. It's like, and then half of these spots are never used.

It's like Dionne Sanders and Casey brings two cars to work. We'll take up two spots. So I emailed them and I was like, what's up with the reserved spots? Who are these reserved spots for? Did you get an answer? You don't want to know the answer. And they said no talent gets reserved spots. That is a lie you're being lied to.

Uh-huh. No, no, no, no. This war ain't over. This sounds like the makings of, you know, making a murder 10 episodes an hour each. There's something happening here. I want to get those lawyers from making a murder. I love those two guys. Your paper is starting to look like Stephen Avery's fighting from jail.

I'll go to jail for this. I'm willing to do that. I'm very intrigued by this war because you're so undermanned going into battle. Yeah, they have all the power. You have been asked to move your car previously. Yes. I've got notes. Threatened.

Dan's always been kind of a bad boy of the parking lot doesn't follow the rules. I don't. And ultimately, though, this is a tough one to battle. This is a tough one. They have all the power here. You're going to have to find some secret weapons. Guess what, though, to quote the late great Roddy Piper, just when they think they have all the answers. I change up the questions.

Well, they're the ones asking the questions. Changing those two. I park out on the street, and it works fine for me. I don't have to deal with any of these people, which I know, irritates Dan to no end that I do not park you do have to deal with parking tickets Mark says it's a sign of his common man which I agree with rating thank you Wes is just agreeing just for kissing cousins reasons this happens a lot on the show it's like oh we agree we're in lockstep but I mean Mark what do you how is a common man that you park on the street well I'm saving an

extra spot for you potentially I come in earlier than you and so you know had had it had I not parked out on the street where would you park you're a bigger liar than the woman that emailed me that's a very selfless move by mark and i feel like he was the kind of child who felt sorry for felt sorry for the stuffed animals he couldn't get to to the play with that day you know he's that kind of person like like many of mark's um eating choices it's completely illogical the parking outside the structure makes no sense i i disagree but you know we've got a lot to do in the show today so shout out shout out to redkin my hair product they sent me and then entire box of my molding paste, the social media team over there.

Love you guys. Are you kidding? Are you serious? Yeah, it was really cool. Yeah. Your hair looks great today. Thank you, Colleen. As is yours.

Thank you. Just gorgeous on me. Redkin. Colleen, well. How many tubs did you? Can I have one or whatever it is? While you're handing them out. At a discount, I could get you one.

All right. Well, you know what? I'll just go buy my own. He's selling it in the parking lot. You would consider giving him some of the free product that you got. You want to profit off of this. That's the old common man, Dan Hansis. So we'll talk about it.

We could work out an arrangement, nothing business. I don't need to arrange anything. So thank you to Redkin. A big show coming up today. We're going to talk about, we haven't played this game in a while. Who do you trust Super Bowl edition laying out some scenarios discussing who do we trust in said scenarios. Mark, oh, man, Mark, wrote a banger on the website posted Thursday morning,

30 reasons for hope listing each of the teams that are not playing a week from Sunday, why they have a reason for hope. So we're going to cherry pick a few of those teams and then talk about your reason for hope and maybe dig in a little on that. Connor Orr is in Hawaii. So for the Pro Bowl, we sent Connor O'R. We sent him the Pro Bowl. We're taking the series, huh?

We sent someone every year. We have a man covering the Pro Bowl. It's usually Kevin Patra, whether it's in Arizona or Hawaii. He's not able to this week. I think it's his brother's wedding. So Connor step to the plate. Very good. I wonder if Patra is delivering the best man speech.

I would love to hear that. I don't believe in weddings much or marriage. It's all kind of BS. I could have, he's got to be annoyed with me when it's like his best friend's wedding or something. Is it really a wedding or is he just trying to get out of the pro ball? I probably. That is a very fair question. I believe it is not a brother.

I believe it's a friend. Okay. Well, it's one thing to cover the Pro Bowl in Glendale. But you get to go to Hawaii. Connor, I got a feeling we're going to talk to him. He'll be happy that he's there. And before we do any of that. Oh, one last thing before we get to the news.

We've talked about this. We're going to be in San Francisco, the whole group, including Colleen. Yeah. We're all, well, you're going to be the queen of, what, the social media command center? That's something like that. Yeah, I'm going to have a walkie-talkie and element and all sorts of stuff. We were talking about the idea of a tweet-up with listeners who might be in the San Francisco Bay Area the week of the Super Bowl. I'm thinking Friday night, maybe.

I think that's good. A Friday night tweet up at a bar to be named later. But I'll just put this out there. old zeuser doesn't want to be involved if it's going to be like three or four people and we're like outnumbering the fan base we need a nice number so how about uh hit us up on twitter at around the NFL hit us up at uh hashtag ATN tweet up I think a meetup meet up oh this is already going to be bad oh ATN meet up is it meat like the thing you don't like yeah you know what we need to revise not like

Craple. That's hashtag ATN meetup. Meetup. ATN M-E-E-E-T-U-P. Hit us up. Say you want to get together in San Francisco a week from Friday. And we'll update this next week when we're out. A lot of pressure.

When we went to a foreign country, they packed a bar with probably 100 people. So San Francisco, can you bring it or are you just going to go quiet? We love our people in Europe, in England, in Ireland, and everywhere else. because they're such loyal fans. Maybe the Americans won't be the same, which would be ironic considering we are Americans. Right, and you don't even like to leave the country. Don't typically love to leave the country.

And you've got to have to show up to this thing on time, because if Dan sees it's not a great crowd, he's covering the parties all week. Oh, I'll bet. The party correspondent, view from the 50, and's big Super Bowl blog. Friday night's pretty much the big night for parties, so this might be a cameo from Dan.

Well, you might see, like, a picture like the old, what was it, Scrooge. Yeah. Everyone will be in the bar, like a nice little crowd, and then you'll see me, like, take the fog off the glat window and then look in the window into the bar. And if there's not enough people, I'll just keep going straight to the Playboy party. You love big crowds and you love to converse with many people that you don't know well. So this, I see nothing but success ahead. I don't know if all that's true. But I would love to meet some listeners.

So, as would we all, we'd love Colleen to be there. Yeah, I'm going to come. Yeah, so Colleen will be there. So come on. And Kristen's going to come out, my roommate. Your friend, your close friend. I'd just like, I just like to call all the listeners. If you haven't seen Mark Sessler in a bar before, you're in for a treat.

What does that mean? It's like as natural habitat. It's amazing. That's interesting coming from Chris Weston of all people. Both of you guys are entertaining. Bark is a force of nature. Mark on the show is like a tiger in a zoo. It's cool to see.

Everyone likes looking at the spots or whatever tigers have. But you like to see him out in the wild. That's where you really. He frequently talks to strangers and bars. Yes, he does. Well, I don't view them as strangers. La Cid, let's do some news. Yeah, sure.

Hi, Sid. Hi. I'm lonely. I'm lonely. I'm so lonely. Fill this void. Someone fill this void. The second I thought, like, somehow we had taped my internal thoughts.

That was taped months ago, by the way. I've just been saving it in my pocket. Well done. She was a woman of timing. This was the perfect day for it. Yeah, it's true. I'm warring with a lot of factions, including myself. What's that?

Oh, no, I was going to say, even before this parking thing happened, I feel like. I'm on a war path today. It was ready to go to war. Here we go. the Buffalo Bills, Tyrod Taylor, their quarterback last season. They went eight and eight again, didn't make the playoffs for, I think, the 16th straight year. But it was the first year in a long time that you couldn't, you know, you couldn't point to the quarterback position and say, oh, that's why they didn't do well this year.

But that doesn't necessarily mean the bills will not look at a quarterback early in the 2016 draft. Doug Whaley at the Senior Bowl had this to say when, say, could you, would you potentially draft a quarterback in the, you know, early rounds in 2016. He said, we'll do it because if you look at it, unfortunately, we have two quarterbacks on the roster and both of them are entering the last year of their contract. This is per the Buffalo News from Whaley. If it presents itself, it makes sense and it's a guy we like and we believe in absolutely

Taylor and a nice season. E.J. Manuel is that other quarterback in his last year. You could say goodbye to him. But what do you guys think of this? Is this anything to look into? I think Whaley is lucky to have the opportunity to potentially pick another quarterback because when you swing and miss on a first rounder like E.J. Manuel, the way they did, usually the GM is gone.

That's a good point. He's gotten lucky that for all the things that Rex Ryan was picked on in this room. Rex Ryan, it sounds like, basically insisted on bringing Tyrod Taylor to that team. Greg Roman made it work. They helped to save Doug Whaley by having a quarterback. Who knows if they didn't have good quarterback played, they might have won four games with Rex Ryan. They might all be gone.

And this is nothing new because Doug Whaley, you guys remember in August, he said that the bills, it's almost like they're in quarterback purgatory. So he's wanted a quarterback for a while. It's common sense. He's a small running quarterback with a slight frame who got injured during the season. And did not necessarily play his best at the very key moments of the season, including the game against the Eagles. I'm thinking late in the fourth quarter that really ended their season.

I mean, there's no guaranteed Tyrod Taylor is their guy. You should always just keep getting quarterbacks until you know for sure. Teflon Doug is what we should be calling Whaley because he's been there for a long time without much progress. And I think Tyrod Taylor, he doesn't scare me. Like as someone who roots for a team in the AFC East, he's a nice quarterback. And I could see why the organization is different ownership and everything now. But they don't want to make the Ryan Fitzpatrick mistake they made five years ago and give an unproven guy a huge deal and then live to regret it.

I see what they're doing here. Maybe Doug could have chosen his words a little better so it doesn't lead to, this type of headline but and he spoke to our connor or who told tyrod taylor in person in hawaii uh connor asked him about this and tyrod taylor said what you would expect basically he wants to be the long-term guy he wants to get that contract he wants to prove he's worthy of it so that's up to him good job connor uh moving on my favorite subplot of the panthers playoff run is of course uh creed bombing do we have any creed by any chance sidney putting you on the spot here.

I do have video of... Just to remind the audience who might have forgotten what Creed is. I do have Ben Jacobs actually Creed Bombing. Oh, that's even better. Here it is. It's a pretty good... Scott Stapp. Ben Jacobs is a special teams player, linebacker.

Him and Greg Olson, and then I think one of their assistant coaches came up with Creed Bomb. is when you look close into the eye of a teammate and then sing a creed lyric, never-breaking eye contact. It's like this, Colleen. Well, I just heard.

This is so weird. Oh, my God. That was disturbing to me. You did that to me yesterday at lunch as well, I think. Yeah. No, that was just me talking to you. Okay. Colleen's reaction showed how professionally I just accepted

some of the worst moments of my life last week. And Creed bombed me four or five times and just ate it. So it's got legs, of course, and I have to say I'm angry about this because I should have thought of it. Charlotte Observer reached out to Scott Stapp, who surprise, surprise, was available for an interview. And he said that, quote, I've been cheering for these guys so hard. I had to move my tour bus like five different places so I can get reception and watch the NFC title game the other night. I'm so fired up and pumped up for these guys there. My team right now, he's a Florida native Scott Stapp, the singer of Creed.

a lifelong Dallas Cowboys fan. What? Surprise, surprise. I know a few people like that. He also said, he's going to a Creed tour right now. They should document whoever buys those tickets, puts them on a list,

and watches them all a little bit closer. The best part of that article was that the band is now creed bombing Scott Stapp. Right. It's meta-creed bombing. Really? Yes. Stap's not,

yeah, he's tours a solo tour now. That tour bus must be a nightmare. But his bandmates will now creed bomb Stap, which when he gives the interview, he's probably cheery about it, but I'm sure he doesn't like it, like it, you know, when the cameras aren't on or the mics aren't on. And if you happen to be in... If you know, Stapp.

Harbin, Bayern, Bayern, Sweden. And February 10th, Crete is playing there February 9th. Super Bowl Sunday. So they are together still. It sounds like they are still together. Tickets still available. A couple shows there. In Harvin, Bion, you could go on Super Bowl Sunday,

catch some creed. That's a good pronunciation. We have listeners in Sweden. In other news, moving out of creed bombing. I hope it doesn't get too played out Creed bombing. I wanted to stay right at this level where...

Oh, it couldn't be fresher. Yeah, where it just stays where... I'm sorry, Mark. I know anything laughing, fun, can't be talked about. But it just stays at this level and doesn't get blown out. But we'll see what happens during Media Week. A lot of Creed fans, yeah.

All right, Mark, we'll talk about the Browns now. I have no problem with talking about humorous items. I think the Creed thing at this point is it is what it is. Sorry. It's not funny or not. for you. Extremely quirky team.

I can't get enough. Well, wait until beauty at night because I think it's going to come up once or twice. I have a feeling it will. Yeah, I'm worried about it getting completely blown out. I have to be honest with you. The Cleveland Browns, they have an executive vice president of football operations. So many integral front office guys in that organization right now. But this is the guy that I like the best, of course.

Most people known by his full name, Sashi Brown. But around these parts, he's simply known as. ladies and gentlemen for one night only sashi Sashi says it would be tells the plain dealer of Cleveland that it would be quote unquote shocking if the team traded up from number two to number one and it would be more likely we trade down

Mark you know you need a quarterback everybody knows that you most of all would you be upset if they if they really like a guy but don't go all out to make sure they get them. Well, I don't buy for a second that if they really fell in love with a quarterback, that they wouldn't make an attempt to go up to number one, if it felt like someone was going to get picked there

or someone's going to trade into that spot. But all you ever hear, and we're just starting to get to know these college players, is that there really isn't that quarterback that's first overall. Now, that changes because that's what they've said every year, and then bang, someone goes top five. Yes, you've got to go after and get the player that you need because, A, you cannot saddle Hugh Jackson with Johnny Mansell and whoever else is on that roster right now. You got to go get it, and I think they will.

Lion season started early this year because there's, I mean, come on. What benefit does it do Sassy Brown if he says, oh, yeah, we'll be perfectly willing to trade up. Why don't you just raise the price on us? Plus, it's so early in the process. They obviously have no clue how they're going to finally evaluate these guys. But I do like the under the radar story, and this is rare out of Dan, that he is getting tired of all the different hires in the Browns front office.

On Slack yesterday, we put a little note, Slack. You know, we put different news. Browns are hiring. Quit slack and sign up for Slack today. The Colts were hiring the Colts. I mean, the Browns were hiring the Colts pro scouting coordinator as VP. This is now the Brown's top personnel job. Oh, how many?

And Dan's response, God, how many posts are we going to write about this blank franchises front office? Are you worried that they're going to turn things around? There's nothing personal. No, I would not take that personally. I thought a post... As long as, if we can get Creed involved, then it will become a story. I thought another post was heading down the pike towards the old Zeus or yesterday afternoon

where we were writing about the third guy in their front office. No, we weren't going to write a post. Sometimes you just put news on that channel. It seemed like it was heading toward me. I think it's fair to say the Titanic towards the baseball. Because it's also, it's not like, oh, look at finally they clean house. Every season they clean house. And we've probably written more front office hires for Cleveland than any team in the league,

or all of them combined, so I feel you. Yeah, I don't mean, yeah, it's not, Greg trying to cause trouble. That's all this is. I just, we're above that. I know that, I know that there's hope and there's, you know, hope in Cleveland again. I'm more skeptical of this regime than everyone else seems to be. Because I feel like in the years I've been working for the NFL, I've heard this four times right now. I like Sashi a lot.

Who? Sashi. Okay. I like how Alex Fragola said that, too. Yes, Alex Downson. There is a good job. Our voiceover specials. Hasn't been paid a dime.

Well, some people are very willing to podcast for free around here. While you're sliding down the common man rankings, I saw her going right up. How can a woman go up the common man ranking? Oh, wow. That just knocked Dan even first down. Just eliminated half the... You guys are a bunch of vipers today. Good thing I could take it.

I hope you don't declare war on us. It's already too late. Oh, thank you for me. reminding me. I declare vengeance against the NFL network parking committee. Department? Department? Who are you?

Shadowy. Show your faces. Show your faces, you cowards. Excellent timing. It's like a gaggle of individuals making minimum wage. Finally, Eli Manning is in Hawaii for the Pro Bowl. That's good to see somebody went there with the name. brand and he had this to say about Peyton Manning his brother of course honestly I think there's

maybe too much place on rings and Super Bowl championships just because it's not one player the quarterback is not the sole reason that you win a championship it's the team I hope he can win but his impact has already been made and his legacy I don't think this one game whether it will or not should affect his legacy and that reminds me of our Scott Tray segment your moment is now Peyton Manning look at that do it Peyton your thoughts on Eli's comments well if you're Eli you'd rather Peyton not win one you can go down as the brother that won more Super Bowls don't I'm not to buy in a word of it saying that Super Bowls and rings don't matter when you've won two you can say that

well Eli Manning's entire Hall of Fame candidacy someday and pretty much Eli Manning's entire national respect is only based on his Super Bowl rings. He's never been a top five or six quarterback. So obviously this is Peyton moment. This is Peyton Manning's moment. We're going to think of him totally differently. I'm not really. I really won't based on whether they win or Louis.

Way to hammer your point home. I'm just saying it, but I think people will. The moment is kind of now. I think people will view it. And Peyton Manning will, of course, view his career differently. If you can go out a Super Bowl winner, that will just be the, one of the best stories that's ever happened in NFL history.

It will be right up there. For Peyton Manning, who forever has been known as a guy who doesn't come through in the playoffs, for him to go out the Elway way as a winner after this season would be absolutely incredible. It's too good. It's not going to happen. Yeah, it does feel a little too cute for it to work out that way. We'll see. I think it really, if this would have been a situation,

I know he actually gets heat for having only one Super Bowl title. But if he did not have any titles, and this was the game, we were heading into this game, I really do think it would have been something he almost needed to get this, take advantage of this final opportunity, or he would always be seen with that kind of Marino thing. Yeah, Marino. Fair at all, but he already got the ring. So this would be the cherry on top for him. Just that he got to this game really feels like, especially because he's such a limited player now.

The other thing Eli said, and I believe this, by the way, he said that Eli and Peyton have never even once. like in private conversation like joked around about Eli having two rings and Peyton having one. No way. I feel like they're not like that type of like I don't even see them as humanoid. Humans.

I don't see them like messing around with each other like normal brothers would. Well I think it's also their roles. Eli probably has too much respect for Peyton Manning and probably knows how much that would bother Peyton Manning and Peyton Manning has always been the big brother. He's always been the better player. I think Eli respects Peyton Manning

probably more than he was like any person in the whole world so it's almost like it probably feels sheepish you have a brother i have an older brother okay i knew that it's amazing you didn't know that i did know that i've never met him west you have six brothers you've seen us in action uh i will i will say this i have a brother they're different though the man i have a brother like that's exactly why you do use that ammunition like that's part of brotherhood like you know how to go after someone's insecurity and it's not like the greatest thing about brothers sometimes but you know how to go after each other. But the Manning brothers are kind of weird.

I don't buy it. It depends on the topic, though. I go after my brother and he went after me all the time, but there might be one or two things that you wouldn't use against them. And maybe this would be one of those things. If Peyton's that sensitive. But come on, they got three Super Bowels between the time. Peyton knows.

I mean, Peyton knows Eli got those two rings. And Eli knows. When he's saying it won't affect his legacy, maybe in the very corner, the darkest part of his mind, he's thinking, I got two already, buddy. If you go one and three, you're one and three forever. I got two and oh forever because I'm never making it back, Eli, for the win. It's, bam.

It's unfair that it affects their legacy that much because in the 80s, we all knew Dan Marino was the best quarterback alive. And 30 years later, everybody acts like John Elway was way better than. Marino's kind of like historically faded in the background a little bit, I think because of that. Because of that. Well, I think because of the CBS analysis. We knew he was the greatest. But in this is the greatest defense, Peyton Manning, for that,

shouldn't affect your legacy because he has so little to do with this team getting to this game relatively there were seasons when he was the best quarterback in the league there were seasons where he played great in the playoffs but they lost but it doesn't matter like that averages out that's the other way that it's such a team sport it's not just the cool and eli said that a couple different times that if you're really inside the game or you know how to analyze it properly it's not just on the quarterback so interesting you know the good thing about this patent manning playing the Super Bowl thing and all this talk. You know what the good thing is, Greg?

Your moment is now. Shill. We get to watch it. We get to see how it plays out. I've never been to a Super Bowl. Oh, how exciting. Yeah. I'm really excited.

It's awesome. It's a lot of fun. And anybody listening, it's hard to get to a Super Bowl. We've been very lucky. Hashtag blessed. But it is like, if you can get to a Super Bowl, even won, it really is an absolutely insane scene, like the weekend of the game. just being in whatever city it's in,

especially if it's a good city like New Orleans and San Francisco has a lot of potential this year. And then just the day of, when you walk into the stadium and it's getting closer to kickoff and you know you're in the center of the biggest moment, sports thing in the entire world. It's cool. The kickoff with all the flash bulbs.

It's cool. Get some goosebumps. I got some goosebumps. I got Tom Brady running out of the... Mark, does it still connect with you? Absolutely. I'll never forget. We talked about this a bunch on the podcast.

slasher, when they showed, when you're in the stadium, they showed Tom Brady coming down that tunnel, it was like you were watching gods. Like, it just was a super spectacle. And then Dan, unfortunately, was stationed, like, six seats away from us. Actually, it was for the best when you guys all became Pats fans out of nowhere. At the end, like, Greg and Wes and I are, like, standing up hugging each other. And Dan's looking, it's like, you guys are fools.

That was disgraceful. It was fantastic. You'll be, like, unlike anything you ever been to. Yeah, just don't sit near it. That was the biggest, when Wes and Mark became Pats fans and started hugging you. Greg. That was the biggest heel turn since Sean Michael's super kicked Marty Genetti through the play class.

One of the biggest, one of the most biased fans in any media is getting on us. Hi, I'm Dan Hansis. I couldn't enjoy perhaps the greatest play in football history because I don't like the It's funny. I feel bad for it. No, you know, it's funny. It's funny that you don't think you can just enjoy the moment without becoming a fanboy. But we were enjoying it.

I was high five and I think I saw some tongue slipped in at one point. point. But I did that when Larry Fitzgerald ran down the field to score against the Steelers, I jumped up out of my seat and I screamed granted. So I jumped up during that moment during Malcolm Butler. I just didn't hug anybody. You didn't feel yourself, Dan? I don't remember any hugs.

I don't think they're wrapped up in the moment at all. I got wrapped up. We weren't like embracing each. Three-man hug. Shaddlewood League figured downstairs has video footage of it. We're going to get it on the show. All right. Super Bowl.

I will say this. It wasn't Chris Christie and the Joneses or anything. No. By the way, one thing you won't see coming out of any tunnel at the Super Bowl this year is Tom Brady. Because Tommy ain't playing in the game because something happened on Sunday. There was a big problem. Oh, somebody blocked for me. Oh, you mean the loss in the game that the gentleman got to?

Did he develop a speech impediment too? Like once in your lifetime. Listen. Foxborough has just been destroyed. by an outer space laser. That was not good at me. That was poor of me. And you're right.

I'm better. Of course I am. It's one of the things I don't even. Enough time of past. You just torpedoed yourself like the Patriots fans have been torpedoed. Talk about the common man rankings just falling right down. This common man thing, true common man doesn't worry about these rankings. Well, you're speaking for someone else at this moment.

Common man's right here. All right. That's what's happening in the news. Let's talk about, Mark, holy Christ, what a piece you wrote and put it up on NFL.com. Have you read it? Oh, yeah, of course. How could you not read it? Reasons for hope for every non-super Bowl team.

You could find it at nfl.com slash, listen, big moment for these teams in the future if you don't give up. Never give up ever, ever, ever. That's a large vanity link. Like, totally disorganized band. It started with listen and then a long pause. There's a comma after listen also. Completely lost on the Internet. So what Mark did, and I really liked the conceit of this Mark.

You know, it sounds like I'm pouring it on, but I like it. There are 30 teams that won't be playing on Sunday, as we know. Yes, the Patriots are one of them, but yes, the Jets and the Browns and a bunch of other teams. Well, the Jets missed the entire playoffs, right? They did. Right. The end of that. They blew it, actually.

they choked so what Mark did was even though the Jets choked doesn't mean there's no reason to be hopeful as a franchise and he labeled it for instance for the Jets this is what Mark wrote

B'bba Bha Bumping Rex Ryan had the potential to go very wrong for the Jets instead they have a superior coach and Todd Bowles blah blah blah blah blah blah a lot of good things to get excited about for the Jets so what we're going to do now is go around the horn

Mark excluded and pull out some of Mark's writing, which is tremendous, and then talk about the teams. And Wes, which one jumped out to you? The Steelers. All right. Let me read The Steelers.

Peace by Mark. Take what we said about the Bengals and apply it to the Steelers. With a healthy Levion bell back in the mix, the sky's the limit for Big Ben and Friends. With more organizational consistency, the 90% of the league, Pittsburgh remains. a Super Bowl threat

until Rothesberger retires. What? What the heck is going on with that music? This feels like a high-level troll job, but I will endure it. Wait, no. I know. I liked what you did.

I'm giving the piece the grommit toss. You did a nice job with that. Thank you. All right, go ahead. No, but that's what Mark wrote and your thoughts was. Well, we do our predictions in August,

but I can tell you right now, I'm going to pick Ben Rathesberger to be the MVP of, MVP of the NFL in 2016. Wow. The most dynamic weapons in football, Martavis Bryant, might someday be better than Antonio Brown is now. Wow.

Levion Bell is the best running back in football when he's healthy. Their offensive line is stout. That's just their offense. On defense, all these draft picks, they finally poured in. Ryan Shazir has turned into a legitimate star. Stefan Tewitt played lights out down the stretch. Reside Cameron Hayward. They have a really interesting young defense.

If they fix that secondary, what's the weakness on this team? My only concern, because I picked Big Ben to be MVP this year, and he got hurt a few times and missed some games. I picked him last year. Yeah, I'm a little concerned we've reached a stage now where he's always going to be hurt a couple times a year. It not only hurts a team, but it depresses his numbers and his playing time, obviously.

I get a little worried about that. I lost the injury predictor behind the couch, so I can't find it. But he still was able to pan through some of those injuries, too. I mean, like, he, yeah, he's not totally durable, but when he does get hurt, I feel like he bounces back fairly quickly. And if you can choose a spot to have continuity one year to the next, it's the passing game. Everything else can change too much offensive lines, running game, defense.

If you've got a loaded passing game, it's like you know you're going to win 10 or 11 games. Mark, any other thoughts to add to your blur? Well, I just think they proved to be one of the most resilient teams in the AFC. I mean, for the amount of injuries they had, other teams would have done what the Ravens did, frankly, and win four games or something. The Steelers fought through it. Colleen, what did you, what team did you pick?

I picked the Jags. Who, the Jacksonville Jaguars? Yeah. I feel like a fool. I've been predicting a Jaguars turnaround for years, and I'm doing it again. I believe in the young playmakers around Blake Bordels. And with Dante Fowler returning after a lost rookie season,

Jacksonville's defense adds a promising sack artist to the mix. We've seen it all before, but the Jaguars have the talent. to be a nice surprise in the AFC. The reason why this music works is because your writing does have a cinematic quality to it. So it comes together. Colleen. Yeah.

You should make an audio version of all Mark's articles, but with Dan Reed. I like that. I would do it. And I play in more with the music, too. So now, like, the second time around, I really believe in them. That's like Enya's less famous sister

doing the audio. It was the best way. get paid it 20 bucks in there. Colleen, why did you highlight the jacks? Well, I like that the offense is so young. You have Alan Robinson, Alan Hurons, Blake Bortles. Bortles put up what franchise records this year. And I feel like they're improving. You have consistency there with Greg Olson, their offensive coordinator. Obviously, the defense is the main thing that that's the huge concern. They allowed a ton of points. They were terrible on third down. But it's like they're going to get, as Mark said, Dante Fowler back. And that helps with the

pass rush that they so desperately need. And I just like the youth on that team. Everybody else worried about Blake Bortle's taking a step back maybe next year, driving fantasy owners crazy. A lot of his numbers were in garbage time. I'm not sold on Blake yet. The only thing I worry about is that they're going to get a little bit of the love like I did for the Rams this year.

If you just keep picking them year after year, eventually it'll happen. And it doesn't mean it necessarily happens. We've believed, like you alluded to me, we believed in the Jags before. But it really does feel like now is the time now or never. Yeah. Well, I think the pressure is turned way up. And if the defense specifically, which is Gus Bradley's specialty, doesn't make a big jump, then the team's going to have the same record.

And they're going to start from scratch. Yeah, I mean, that's bad news. It's a lot of pressure on the organization. If they flounder this year, they're going to, I think they'll finally clean house. I haven't even thought about it. And then Bortles has to start over with the new coaching coordinator. And the whole thing is like, uh-oh, what's happening in Jacksonville? I haven't even thought about it.

but now I am. They will be the trendy. They haven't been there, but this is the year they make the playoffs, which is usually a curse, but you know who that team was this year, the Minnesota Vikings, who did exactly what everyone thought.

Good call, Greg. I went with, because I think we have to highlight it, the Cleveland Browns. I'm lonely. Put that in there. Ritter killed for years as a swarming hive.

of dysfunction. Cleveland pulled off a coup with the hiring of coach Hugh Jackson, pairing one of the NFL's most creative play callers with the quarterback the Browns would ultimately pick at number two. Jared Koff, Carson Wence,

Tim Couch, the third, might finally put an end to the misery by the lag. Mark. Yes. I love that you have hope. and I have trepidation about this just not anything to do with the personnel

because I don't know enough about it I just doubt it but you like the hires and that's enough at this point for a Browns fans at least they didn't mess up these hires Well I mean I think about a month ago I could not have been less encouraged about what was happening

with this franchise to the point where you felt like it might even just get that much worse for another five or six years until an ownership changed happened but I do think it was a coupé Todd to get Hugh Jackson because the assumption was they were going to go get some retread special teams coordinators, their head coach, some guy no one had never heard from. Or another first year guy, which we've been down that road in Cleveland.

It sounds like, you know, hearing from players on Twitter and stuff, even that this is a guy they want to play for, and maybe it lets you keep some of the players that would have walked out the door, get other free agents in there, and honestly start to rebuild the team. It's a big if. I think you have a reason to be sent. And I'm bummed out about the Manzell thing. I still remember Draft Day when he came the movie. I'll never forget the movie either.

Oh, please. Kevin Costner and Jennifer Garner, mixing sports and drama in a way you don't see in the cinema much. So many plot points that were just unpredictable. However, still bummed that the Johnny Manzell thing blew up the way it did because it felt like potentially the move that was going to finally make Cleveland relevant again. But at the same time, I think they're doing the right thing by getting them out of town, as we're hearing is the plan.

Now they just got a hit on the quarterback. I'm looking forward. It's easy, but the hardest thing to do. Yeah. I'm looking forward to them hiring Mike Silver as an advisor, and then he gets Hugh Jackson, his buddy, to draft Jared Gough, the Cal quarterback, and it all comes. Who's been described as a thinner Sam Bradford at the senior ball?

I mean, they've shown they like the higher former NFL network analysts. So you get Michael Lombardi out of there. You get Michael Silver in there. He brings Gough in a way we go. Well, interesting, Greg. The final team, Greg, that you highlighted. Just for the writing, I picked the Detroit Lions. Three words.

Jim, Bob Kuta. That's it? I was getting tired. That was my favorite one. That was an easy way to get out of it. It was masterful. It was right in the middle of the article. It's the wheelhouse.

It's sometimes just timing. You've got these big. big write-ups about the Raiders and the Rams right around it. And then you just go for the gusto. Damn, damn, damn. That's Jim Bob Cooter. Because you're right. That is the reason. He got Matthew Stafford going when you can get more Cooter in your life, keeping it going. Always.

Cooter continuity. Got to do that. You got to do it. Coutter continuity. I like that. Hashtag. Do you have anything to add to that, Mark? No, I think Greg summed it up probably more succinctly, or less succinctly, but more

correctly than I did. I added no analysis, so why would I have any now? I agree with Greg. Anytime you get more Cooter in your life, you have to go for it. Yeah. All right. Good Seg. Great piece.

You could check it out at that vanity URL I referenced earlier. You obviously wrote it down, so I don't have to say it again. Last thing, before we go, well, we got Connor coming up. But let's hit up, who do you trust one of the games that we play on the around the NFL podcast? Two options. Who do you trust more? Let's start with. Who do you trust?

Panther, the Panthers coaching staff, led, of course, by Riverboat Ron versus the Broncos coaching staff led by Gary Kubiak and our friend, son of bum, coming off a masterful game plan against the Patriots. Wes. I think Wade Phillips makes us close. He's coming off one of the best game plans and championship game history against the Patriots.

But I have total confidence in this Panthers coaching staff, not just in Ron Rivera, who's proven to be one of the best in-game strategists, but also Mike Shula had a phenomenal year building that offense around Cam Newton. And Sean McDermott doesn't get enough love for their defense, which we always expect that secondary to fall apart, and they just keep making plays and forcing turnovers. I was just going to say, I give the slight edge to Carolina. I feel like I've turned completely around on Mike Shula.

That is the toughest offense to prepare for. and the continuity that they've had that he's been there for five years, more than any team, it's the Cam Newton offense. It's the Cam Newton-Off, and they've been doing it for so long. It kind of reminds me of the old Colts teams with Peyton Manning. Even if you possibly knew what was coming, it doesn't matter because they execute it so well. After seeing Wade Phillips out-scheme Belichick and Brady, I'm going to give a slight edge to Denver.

I read a story in the Boston Globe last night that they dropped their blitzing patterns from 40% around. to 15% in that game, completely changed up what they were doing. New England wasn't able to react. And I think they might, I'm trusting Wade Phillips to finish off this masterpiece and do it again against Carolina and keep them in check a little bit. I like the Carolina Panthers coaching staff. I feel like they've done such a good job all year to game plan and find ways to win

and win convincingly. And it's been against different types of teams and they've done it across the board on offense and defense. I mean, Sean McDervant, like you said, West, he made Kurt Coleman look like a good player. I mean, they've done a good job there. That's fired against Kurt Coleman. It's coming from an Eagles fan who watched Kirk Coleman in Philadelphia.

I just hope Wade Phillips does better than, I don't know if it was the last time, but one of the times he went to the Super Bowl as the Broncos defensive coordinator, and they got blasted 55 to 10. That was Wade Phillips. Slight edge Panthers for me. I mean, I don't think you have a Bill Belichick in this game. And if you take Wade Phillips out of Denver, there's really, to me, nothing extraordinary about that coaching staff.

all right here we go panthers offense just blowing up people week after week versus the broncos defense which we just talked about it so gregg i'll just throw this one to you and we'll keep moving i'm going to give it to the broncos defense as great as carolina's been on offense so tough to prepare for i think the denver defense has the best collection of talent of any defense in the league and maybe any side of the ball in this game and they're coming off one of their best games they got a great coordinator Yeah, I agree about the talent issue. Denver has the edge there. But this isn't as good of a matchup for the Broncos defense, especially with that pass rush. That's when Cam Newton makes you pay by running. You come swarming at him off the edges. He's getting those first downs.

And if you're playing manned defense down the field and dropping six or seven into coverage, huge tracks of land for Cam Newton to take off and run. Broncos pass rush, who do you trust, versus... The Panthers O line, Mark Sessler. Well, I think the Broncos pass rush is one of the most special aspects of either team in this game. Carolina's line from a run angle has been excellent, and they've really done a good job protecting camps, so it's tight.

But after watching what? Tight butt, did you say? Well, hopefully not for Carolina. Hopefully not tight butts for them. But we're talking about a pass rush that hit Tom Brady at historical levels last week, a quarterback that has been, you know, not a. guy that gets whacked around a lot so i'm going to go denver's pass rush anybody else collie i just like watching derrick wolf it's nice to finally to see another player to see a player named wolf do this

well oh i like the hell yeah and it's spelled the same way any relation um not that i can find yet still working on it though have you ever been banned for p ed use um i don't want to talk about that okay okay uh get al jazeera on that finally uh shut down, actually. Who do you trust, Mark, you're covering Denver? That is correct. Mark Sessler to cover Peyton Manning objectively during Super Bowl week, or Colleen Wolfe will make her 6 a.m. call time at the social media command center

for seven consecutive days, Wes. I trust Mark to cover Peyton Manning objectively. Wow. That's an upset. Look, I'm never late, ever. That's going to be tough, though, because you've got Kristen, your good buddy coming into town. You got a fun city. You got, you know, some late nights potentially.

I know. I know. You're nervous? So I got these things called hydration packets yesterday. I know. It's like a. So you could be suspended for PEDs in the future. It's possible.

It's some type of like electrolyte thing. Where did you get these lovely devices? It sounds like. It's going to backfire. There's this place around the corner. You guys have talked about it on the show, Jackson Market. They had them there. And then I was food chabbing the other night, and I saw them.

And they're like these little individual packets. I know where I'm going. So it's called Liquid IV. There's a reason why. I don't like this. I am going right there. There's a reason why she's the talent of the group. Well, I wouldn't say that.

She's no. But that's how we brought you to the NFL network. If you're watching on YouTube, the awkward ISO cam. Which one? This one. I don't know. I don't even. It's even.

Perfect. This is great. So awkward. But they pay that talent for one thing, the ability to fight through whatever's gone on the night before and be there professionally. Yeah, that's true. On time and knock it out. And that's what Colleen does.

Mark, on the other hand, is now going to be so worried that he's biased against the Broncos, who he's been rooting against for the last few weeks. And he's been hoping they lose because they're boring to watch. That's a fair assessment. You are not far from correct. And then you are a professional, but you might go too far the other way

and do the thing that usually happens where by the end of Super Bowl week Mark has fallen in love with the coordinators and the players and he believes in them because he likes them as people. Mark is a people lover and you end up going to buy us for the Broncos. You say Believe Land in Denver.

Exactly. You are absolutely correct that when you cover a team like five or six days in a row and you get to actually talk to these coaches that it does start to seep into your. your not maybe not your written analysis you do you do i don't think that's going to happen with Peyton manning but if anything the danger is me getting real snarky about Peyton manning if i get too if i get paid manning overload it could go real south i like i'm looking forward to that

i trust mark i think i'm taking mark before wow it's pretty close it's going to be close you could just swing this can i say i don't trust either that's true i think that's a fair question then yeah that's probably the best answer it's your game it's your That's it. That's it. What? It's your day. Why is it my day?

I'm having a bad day. It's your special day. It's your special day to take people on. Break some rules. Make up the game. One day a week devoted to four paths. All right, folks. You know, Connor Orr, our New Jersey correspondent.

Not in New Jersey right now. In fact. What? Yeah, he's all the way out in the Pacific. Hawaii, that is. For the Pro Bowl, Connor Orr on the line. Yes. What's up, buddy?

what how's it how's it going everybody isn't it weird that when connor's in new jersey on the phone it sounds like he's on a like a sandra bullock cell phone from speed but then when he's in the middle of nowhere in the world it's like a clear signal well not haunted ah maybe that's what it is it's all the good vibes coming out of geopolitical oceana So, yes, Connor, he got to Hawaii. What was it, two days ago, or is it yesterday? I got in yesterday after a 12-hour flight. It was awesome. I watched all three of those heist movies with Brad Pitt.

Oceans 11, 12, and 13. Interesting choice. Oceans 11 is one of my favorite kind of fun movies of the last decade. Oceans 12 was one of the worst movies. Well, yeah, it goes off a cliff very quickly. I can't speak to 13. I was going to say, watching those three in a row sounds like something we would do to, like, hostages or something like that.

A little tedious. I definitely wasn't drunk enough for it, but anyway. So, yeah, so you get to Hawaii, you check into the hotel, and your first assignment, and stop us if there's something else during your adventure in Hawaii, but your first assignment is the golden one, the one that is bigger than anything you'll do, live coverage of the Pro Bowl draft.

It was, you know, just imagine your most intense situation in life and then multiply it by 50. I mean, I was just out of my mind, but we got through it. Stakes through the roof. And, you know, I think it was a big win for Team Irvin last night. That's for, wow. Well, that I have to say I've never watched a minute of this. But I will tell you that Jerry Rice never ceases to amaze. how overmatched he is in this exercise.

I remember the first year where they had me do like a live blog, they never asked me to do it again. But the first year, I remember him making so many bad picks that I can't remember who it was, but one of the players started mocking him relentlessly. Wow.

And it got legitimately awkward. Was there any of that yesterday, Connor? Well, it was just funny because, like, if Jerry was, like, the GM of an actual team, his team would be better, but he just, I think, fails to, understand the fact, like, you don't want to load up on offensive and defensive linemen in the Pro Bowl when, like, there's, like, barely any physical contact or running, and then,

like, Team Irvin has, like, eight of the 10 best receivers in the NFL that he can run out at one time, you know, so I think just, you know, a little bit of a lapse in planning. I just think, like I said, Jerry's a GM's GM, and that just doesn't work in this setting. How would somebody has to tell him that? Where else are you going to get that kind of Pro Bowl roster construction analysis? Oh, I mean, only a GM like Connor, who is a masterful runner of a franchise on Madden, could come with that kind of heat. What was it like, though, in that room? You know, did you talk to any of the players?

What was the scene like? Yeah, certain players were willing to talk. And when they did, you know, it was really cool. I mean, you know, because it was in an Air Force hangar out in the United States. the mountains in Hawaii, and so they let all the soldiers, Air Force Army Navy, kind of like just co-mingle with the players throughout the day. So it was awesome, you know, and I think like just watching guys like, you know, Tyrod Taylor just like slinging passes to like diving Navy servicemen was like,

just one of like the highlights of the trip. That was pretty awesome. Connor. Negative experiences with any of the players. Yeah. I think if you'll read contextually into my what we learn, there's definitely some of that that, that could. be brought to light.

Yeah, but I think, you know, we're the NFL, and so we're out here just, together we make football and we're focusing on the positive. What exactly is a selfie lane? I saw that that was there. Can you kind of explain what that is? Yeah, so this was kind of like, it was an opportunity to kind of take like 12 in a row. So there was like a bunch of like large pro bowl players sitting in this like gated area where the gate was kind of very close to the players and there was barely enough.

room for like the human to squeeze through but you would just like kind of go bang bang bang bang like walk down the line and take like selfies and some players knew it was coming some didn't and uh i don't know eli i just want to see every picture of elai manning i think that's going to be fantastic i mean that sounds dumb what about um mike terrico of ESPN of course a hero around these parts uh they sent him out to hawai i guess it was a reward can you tell us Do you have any interaction with Tariko, any thing you saw or witness that really spoke to his greatness? Just now, actually, this is breaking. He was backed off the field by a, like, a Hawaii enforcement security guard who didn't know who he was.

How disrespect. That's ridiculous. And just handled it flawlessly, not like, do you know, don't you know who I am or anything? Patted the guy firmly on the shoulder and said, sure, no problem. And just, like, backed away. Classic Tariko. I'll tell you what, that's the class that you can only get from being a field hockey beatwriter for the Daily Orange at Syracuse, which is something that Mike... Yeah, you guys are fellow alums.

Connor, one question. I mean, early reports on Slack out of the office. Had you stationed in really sort of a ramshackle flop house of a hotel while the higher-ups at the NFL were put in a very beachside, luxurious sort of a state setting? Are you feeling agitated about... Do you feel slighted potentially? you answer that, Connor. Quit slacken. Sign up for slack today.

Okay, go ahead. Yeah, so I'm at the Players Hotel right now, which is, like, essentially where, like, Morgan Freeman goes to meet his friend at the end of Shawshank Redemption. It's the most beautiful, like, corner of God's Earth. And, you know, the courtyard is nice. There are definitely some benefits. I had some great avocado toast there.

But I think I'm just going to pitch a 10 out here on the beach, and I'm just going to stay here. You saw some funny things on your flight there already, people getting special treatment. Just a star-studded plane, private plane that you were out leaving one. Yeah, so I was on a plane with the NFL's VP of officiating, Dean Blandino. Dino Blanino? Dino. Legendary NFL broadcaster Chris Berman and Giants quarterback Eli Manning.

And one of us boarded in group five out of all of us. And Eli got like this covert, like, you know, cover up the, like, it was like the Michael Jackson family, like swooped onto the plane. It was, uh, it was pretty incredible. I've never, like, it was like a misdirection thing where they kind of focused this all in one direction and then just kind of shove them all on the plane the other direction. That feels a little unnecessary, right? Yeah. Eli? It's odd.

Yeah. Wow. Diversionary tactic. Anything else before we let you go. So you have a lot more intrepid reporting to do. young Connor Orr. Yeah, you know, I'm just going to keep my ear to the ground here, you know, and try to get a drink with a real coconut, like drink out of real coconut.

That's going to be the next big thing for me. Last year, Kevin Patra, who does a great job, tick covering Pro Bowls, he was busy, couldn't do it this year. But he got into a conversation about books with a beefy offensive lineman. Alex Mack. Alex Mack. So that is the bar that you will be asked to reach. tie yeah no i think if if if alex ends up making it over to the courtyard we can definitely talk

about um uh the collection of david foster wall short stories i brought with me i think that'd be good consider the lobster um girl with curious hair okay well there you go so this was connor orr's update from hawai and great work as always uh kinder we're going to see you in san francisco and we're very excited i'm going to be tan for everybody that sounds hot Connor Orr, ladies and gentlemen. Hi, Connor. Bye. There you have it.

Speaking of enchanting and enchanted, I'm enchanted, every time we talk to Connor and we can't wait to get together with Mr. Orr in San Francisco, which is where we will be the next time you hear the around the NFL podcast. In fact, guys, now they think of it, this is our last show in the studio for the 2015 season. Wow. So, yeah, nice job in the studio this year, guys. It was incredible. Thank you, Dan.

And it was great to have such a regular presence of Colleen Wool. Oh, Mar-on. Some of our other great. What a great job. Don't say that it's going to make Dan uncomfortable. And I do appreciate you being like 30% worse today, Colleen. All right, good. I tried my best to do it.

That was all for you. Came through. No, you've done an excellent work as always. And we will all get together. You join us in San Francisco for a show. Yes, too. Yes. Okay.

Colleen is on it. She's booked. From Radio. Row. Colleen, I know, Greg. I'm just, you know, show. It was part of the bit, Greg. I'm going to build on this. It's just above the surf. Scott might be there. It's fine. Scott Tray. Very bizarre. All right. So yes, Colleen will join us on Tuesday from Radio Row. Connor will join us on Thursday from Radio Row. And then, of course, our big Super Bowl Sunday

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