NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Records most likely to be broken

Episode Date: April 1, 2015

A room filled with heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler -- discuss the latest news around the NFL including Colin Kaepernick's offseason workouts and Rob Gronkowski's latest whereabouts. The guys then debate which current players are most likely to break prominent NFL records.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast is bringing in Tim Tebow for a workout. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosethal. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan. How are you? If you heard a little, little pop, a little pop in the, uh,

Westling's drawl just now. It's because vacation day for big guy. Hello. Senioritis. Major case of senioritis. Senioritis, Wes leaving for Tybee Island. Phoning it in all day. Hey, Dan.

His liver may never be the same. Wes, tell us a little bit about your Tybee trip coming up. Well, my liver will be fine. It's been conditioned by Tybee, which is the most self-indulgent place on Earth, as far as I know. All you have to do on Tybee is go to the beach. beach, hang out at Huckapoo's, and make fun of tourists. For new listeners, this is your old place of residence for how many years, seven years or so? About seven and a half years.

Until the NFL media news group plucked you up. The long arm of Greg Rosenthal. West New York. T.D.'s queuing up the Chris Wessling philosophical music, so speak philosophically about Tai B. What it means. I, you know, I think if you read Joseph Campbell, who, You know, speaking of philosophy, from the Eagles,

myth-making. No, different guy. You know, you have to leave home to become a man. And that's when I became a man, I think. Growing up in Ohio, you know, you're stuck in this provincial town. You don't learn things on your own. You don't try things. You have to go away.

And I went to Tybee, became a man. You became a man on the most self-indulgent spot on planet Earth. Well, I survived. I survived. I had no inkling that I might become a writer when I moved to Tybee. I had just started to deliver I got a job with Pizza Hut delivering pizzas I never actually delivered a pizza

because I got bronchitis and Greg contacted me like that day asking if I wanted to work for Rotoworld By framing yourself within the Joseph Campbell context you've essentially called yourself the centerpiece of the hero's journey aren't we all in our own yes but that's what's happening here

I believe it was a hero journey rescue rescue I love it Rescue the situation here. What are your thoughts right now? It would be great to actually have a spin-off podcast, Wes and Cess Talk Philosophy. I like it. When you listen to that? High download numbers.

I would listen. I think it would get downloads, Dan. Maybe. I'm saying high download numbers. I think it would. I was being dead serious. Well, not really. Not really.

Big show coming up today. We got a big one. Not a lot of news. It is slowed down, obviously, in terms of what's happening in the NFL, post-owners meetings, post-combine pre-draft. However, that doesn't mean we don't have a lot to talk about. We're going to get into a nice piece that Chris Wesleying wrote up, and I did read it, Greg, about top NFL records that can go down this season,

NFL records high, you know, the type of records that people talk about. Wes laid out a bunch of players who have a chance to break some big-time records, and then the rest of us, Mark, Greg, and myself will, you know, throw in a couple of our own maybe if anybody thought of any um so we'll get into that and uh you know whatever else tickles our fancy you know some jibber jabber basically on a slow news thing in the nfl lots of fun yeah a lot of fun and uh t d behind the glass how you doing buddy what's going on guys i got to say my favorite part of the show now is gregg's reaction once i play the money drop at the top because greg gives like one second facial review of what he thinks about it today

It was like a little head nod to Mark who acknowledged. I was like, yeah, that's cool. That's all right. That wasn't a, nah, it was an okay one. The money drop is also about when you check out. Wow. Whoa. Whoa.

Oh, man. Hey, hate, hate, hate, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Well, I've long said the money, the money tag is my favorite part of the show. It's, I think, you know, our... You look forward to it. Yeah, I look forward to it. It's a signature. Yeah, it's just a nice, strong.

It changes every time, so... It's funny because I wait for my cue to start the intro of the show, so I never, very rarely doesn't even like pop in my head what it was. I don't even know what it was today. What was it? Does anybody know? It said we're going to have Tim Tebow in for a workout. Oh, well, that's not true.

TD, let's do some news. That was a good one. Sean behind the glass. That was his masterwork. Is that correct? Well, Sean just really liked it. You know, it was the Belichick snort move. The Belichick pass.

passive aggressive phlegm move flambo i call him basically you know lifting his leg up on the reporters that's his move that's offensive that's your hero gregg by the way he's a genius um all right so let's a lot of uh nasal problems fair enough let's get into some news we'll start with a player ralando mclean who actually visited he made a visit to the throne of ease and you would think once you walk into the castle, you don't leave, but he did leave without a contract, and he ended up going back and ending up with his old team, who is now his current team. Again, Rolanda McLean and the Cowboys have reached a one-year contract worth $3 million in base salary and another $1 million in playing playtime incentives, according to NFL media's Albert Breer. This went down on Wednesday, the former first round linebacker. As I said, visited the Patriots, but decided to stay in Dallas.

This is McLean. Mark Sessler coming off a year where he bounced back and got his career back on track and now he's got a one-year deal. Not a lot of security, but up to $4 million. Not bad for a guy that was a washout. Yeah, I mean, I know the Patriots were in the mix, but I guess if you're McLean or if you're his agent, you want to have him go back to the only place that's worked. And that was Dallas. I think Dallas probably, they want him back because they can put him in the middle, move Sean Lee over, get him out of, drop Sean Lee back more and not have him as injury prone. But McLean, you know, in the article, Cockley's had two failed retirements. Okay, so you can get him on the field and get them to work anywhere.

I wouldn't go change it up and start over somewhere else. I thought the Cowboys were going to have a worst lineback at Corps a couple weeks ago. You know, they had lost Justin Durant. It looked like McLean wasn't coming back. Bruce Carter's gone. Bruce Carter's going, and now they haven't upgraded. I mean, if Sean Lee can stay healthy, you've got McLean. Anthony Hitchens, who as a rookie last year, was really strong against the run.

He probably got more money from the Cowboys, has a little bit of incentives. And there's a logical starting job with Dallas. There wasn't with New England if everyone was healthy. If Gerard Mayo's healthy, Dante Hightower's healthy, I think McLean would have just been a backup. So who needs him? Jerk. Just kidding. Moving on, the Baltimore Ravens have added another quarterback.

His name noted around the NFL. punching bag, Matt Schaubb, who signs a one-year deal worth $3 million he most likely, unless he gets beat out in camp again, which happens a lot with Matt Schaub. Let's face it, will be the backup to Joe Flacco this season, giving the team a veteran option behind their Iron Man quarterback. Flacco has never missed a start since entering the league regular season and playoffs. So this is one of the cushiest gigs in the NFL potentially sliding and as a veteran backup, making a nice, nice little bank as the backup to Joe Flacko, Chris Wesley. Yeah, I think there's a major difference between what the Raiders did last year,

trading for him, giving him $8 million guaranteed up front, proclaiming him a guy who can lead us to the playoffs and calling him a guy on par with Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning. And then the Ravens just say, oh, we're going to sit him on the bench behind a guy who never misses a game. By the way, the guy that was responsible for all that buildup, still employed as a general manager for that. Well, there are certain people in this room who think he's a good general manager.

That's not true at all. It is true. I just like, you know, poking you in the ribs by pointing out Reggie McKenzie. The rib-poken. They had a good draft last year. If John Schneider or someone else drafted had those two picks and got Mack and Carr, we'd be singing their praises. John Schneider wouldn't have Khalil Mack because he doesn't finish with a 21-14 record or whatever. They didn't have a good record of the first couple seasons.

Well, John Snyder doesn't have to go out. and cut the entire free agency class that he overpaid last spring. That's fair. No more Antonio Smith? Another one gone. Yeah. He's doing a great job. Last year, Maurice Jones Drew said Matt Schab can lead us to the Super Bowl.

And a month later, Lamar Woodley said, oh, yeah, we're definitely going to the playoffs. All three of the people involved in that sentence have been cut a year after they were signed. Fine backup, though. Why not? Well, for the Ravens. Mark wrote a piece on the around the NFL site today. Great, great piece. Tremendous, in fact.

He wrote about Matt Schaub explaining, hey, haters. Tiddy, was that accurate? Hey, haters. That was, okay. Okay. It was disappointing. For everyone.

Okay. This is what he had to say to the haters. I had a rough year. I learned from it. I've got a lot of football left in me. Oh, it's the same. Wait, is you referring to last year or the year before? Well, they actually weren't clear about that in the piece,

but he could talk to either. He could talk to either. He only threw 10 passes last year, Two of them were picks. The year before, he set an NFL record for pick sixes and four straight games. I mean, this is the time of year where it gets sketchy writing these articles because you've got John Harbaugh coming out and saying, what a great fit he's going to be.

And you've got Matt Schaub saying, I've got a lot left to me. And we have to wait basically five months to make it all not true, which it isn't true. And last off season, we heard the Raiders calling Matt Schaub right up there with Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning. He's the nonsense. I would take them over 10 backups I could come up. Really? I like what?

I would. Yeah, I mean, what have you seen on film in the last two years that would lead you to say that? Nothing in particular. By the way, I'm just going to step in right now. Maybe the first time it's ever happened. I'm just going to throw out a news item. Okay. And just throw it to you guys out of nowhere.

Okay. I'm not comfortable with this, but go on. We're not exactly college football experts. But I feel like we should discuss James Winston had his pro day this week. Coming out of it, Mike May I, said he's not sure if James Winston is going to be, you know, the number one pick. He's not there yet. A lot of discouragement about this James Winston Pro Day.

Dan's making a face. Wes doesn't like ProDays at all. He just ranted about it yesterday. He had to listen to music just to avoid the Pro Day. What do we think? This is what I think. Anybody that knows college football, which is not really this room, myself included, obviously.

But they tell you that if you really want to get a guy right in the draft, don't worry about the pro day or the combine so much look at the tapes and you know teddy bridgewater last year is the ultimate example uh the guy that had such a bad pro day he almost fell out of the first round and now a lot of people uh including gregg it's his boy straight up teddy bridgewater so am i going to get worked up about a stupid pro day who cares if only we had i care as much as a matt shop signing if only yeah same level we had 30 games of tape to just grade james winston on instead of what he did against no defense, throwing against air and brooms. Well, and the other issue with the pro day and the people were freaking out about this yesterday,

you're in your home place. You're with all your people. It should be an absolute home run. Just make it as simple as possible to make these guys look good. And they put him through 100 plus throws. It was an outrageous workout. He was sweating like a crazy man. You didn't help him.

Brooms, things being thrown at him. I would say the last two days. of Twitter between the pro day and April Fool's shenanigans have been the two worst back-to-back Twitter days in a long time. I really check out on a Fortnite long bender. I really just brought this up because I kind of

wanted to hear Wes rant about pro days in general. I thought that'd be good on the podcast. You know what? I can see timing guys in the 40 or whatever at a pro day, but a quarterback's pro day, didn't we learn from the mistakes of last year? Everybody's got to pipe down on April Fool's Day, by the way. You know, it's something that it ends up

but usually just singling out someone for ridicule and then everyone laughing at them. And, you know, I'm not... And it's the fool. You know, I'm not saying that, you know, I have a history of playing The Fool on this day, but I don't like it. That's where I stand. What do you mean? What don't you like?

You don't like anyone doing these, like Greg Jennings said he was going to sign with a team. And even though we thought it was probably in April Fool's, we did have to monitor his Twitter account just to make sure. I remember when we were kids and people used to play tricks on each other, like pranks. Now it's like April Liar's Day. Wish you weren't a liar. Everyone's like, oh, I just lied about something. That's a good trick.

No, it's not. Sometimes magical things happen on April Fool's Day. Like Dan created his own video today of a fellow NFL employee, social media guru, Dwayne Mung, trying to put out a helmet unsuccess. He couldn't get his helmet off. What is the name of the video? People should watch this. Mo Money, More Problems, his last name, M-U-N-N.

I'll tweet it out. Yeah, and Greg Jennings. by the way, my first did think is to bury him because it's like, Greg, stop propping yourself up as a key figure in the NFL in 2015. But I guess he was just having some fun. I don't want to get too heavy on the guy.

Yeah, but it's another example that if anything got worse because of Twitter, it was April Fool's Day because, you know, Greg's up at midnight monitoring Greg Jennings' Twitter feed. There are better things to do with one's life. Greg, you okay if I move on with the script? Yeah, that's fine. I enjoyed that. We got to April Fool's. It was perfect.

good good bit uh moving on kurt warner is a NFL media analyst but you may know him also as a former league MVP super bowl MVP he is one of one of a um cadre is that a good way nice is a good way to pronounce a little militarized but i like the exact way to pronounce uh of qb gurus that have been working with colin kappernick uh during the off season attempting to get the quarterback to find some consistency in his game after an off season warner on NFL network on Wednesday explained where he's at with Kaepernick after I guess they're done training now basically the gist of it was they need to figure out a way or Kaepernick needs to figure out a way to balance his athleticism and being a quarterback and the interesting thing I took out of it was

Warner saying when I was a player I wasn't an athlete so I was just worried about being a quarterback Capernick needs to find that balance of being an athlete and a quarterback and in a little Capric news his 2015 salary became fully guaranteed on Wednesday so he's locked in for $12 million this year. Wes, do you think

we're going to see a jump in Kaepernick's ability or numbers this year and as a player or we've already seen the best of Colin Kaepernick? I have no idea. All right, we'll be back on Monday with another show. Oh, go ahead.

I like this analysis. better when I wrote it last November. Kurt Warner says the same thing I wrote. We both worked in grocery stores. Football minds. We both gave the same analysis. The only difference is he's won a couple of Super Bowls and played in the NFL. I could be making scratch like Kurt Warner

if I played football. To be fair to you, he only won one Super Bowl, so he's only one ahead of you. All right. He's still got a chance. You still got a chance. Dan? Yeah. Way to play with me like that, man. That was not fair. What? Get my hype's up. I thought the show was over. Oh, wow. April Phil's guys, April.

Hi, Larry's. Every day takes you one step closer to Brian Billick being chained to the studio doing the podcast for 18 minutes looking at his watch the whole time. It's coming back. Coming back of three months. I do want to go back and look at Kaepernick this offseason. We got some time and watch.

Mooch with a taser in his back. Billick straight up chained to the desk and TD 11 at all because it's an 18-minute pod. Do they know your name? I know you work with him. Do they know your name? pick you out at a grocery store where they recognize you? I saw Mooch a week ago talking about game changes.

That's my boy, man. Well, Mooch is one of the best guys in terms of the on-camera talent behind the scenes. I don't know. But what about Billick? Billick's not going to recognize you. Oh, come on. That's my boy. Brian.

Brian. I call him coach. Mr. Billick. No, honesty, I call him coach. Nobody calls him Brian. Brian. Mark, your thoughts on Colin Kaepernick in 2015. I like the fact that he's, you know, that Warner is working with this offshoot collection of rebel signal callers, or as you said, Cadre.

Yes, cadre. Good for him, seeking out help because the one problem I think he faces is an offensive coaching staff that outside of losing Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh has no new faces to help him along or show him in anything new. The 49ers needed to go out and get people to press him and push him and show him how to play the position from a different angle, and they didn't do that. I think we're going to do a series in July or so, kind of players under pressure, just for a week, not a big making the leap type of thing. But one of them's got to be Kaepernick. I want to go back and watch him. Maybe I'll write the Kaepernick one, because I want to see what went wrong.

Because his stats aren't really that much worse, but just my memory and my notes and everything from the year. It felt like he took a pretty big step back. I think their line was not what he played with the year before that either. That was part of it. He was one of the – I think he led the league or second in the league and sack. But he exacerbated. that by what Kurt Warner talked about.

He doesn't know whether to be a quarterback or an athlete. He doesn't know when to hang in there and go through his reeds or not. Mark Sessler wrote a piece today. Mark is cranking away. I don't know what happened today. He's busy. The Dallas Cowboys have reached across the Atlantic for their next big find, according to Mark.

The team has signed British player Efe Obada. Is that pronounced correctly, Mark? I think you spelled it correctly. I don't know how it's pronounced. I just learned of this individual roughly. Nigeria name, by the way. Nigerian name, all right, very good. After the defensive end, he appeared in five games for the London Warriors last year

of the British American Football Association National Leagues. They got to shorten that mofo. I'll tell you what. This is all according to NFLUK.com. And by the way, the UK, not just London, not England. And, you know, certainly Scotland's involved in Wales and Northern Ireland and certainly not the place you brought up, West. Guernsey is not in the mix.

I was corrected. That's going on. So, you know, I figured we have a strong listenership in the U.K., so if you know anything about Effie Obada, all right, you're probably pretty excited right now. Or if the Banffinil. Or if you worked with him at the warehouse

where he was a warehouse Grace Foods outside of London. A warehouse stockman. Well, I had you do this piece, Mark, because I thought there were some similarities between you and Effie. You know, you... How so?

Both. You know, traveling around. Nigerian love football but kind of wandering through difficult jobs and then the NFL comes Colin with the big opportunity you took advantage of it will will F a well he I mean that's right my side of the story has been successful his to come and I'll continue to write about him the odds are similar moving forward finally Rob Grunkowski is continuing this is like everything that's happened since the Super Bowl is the pre-party for the summer of Grong. So this is

the pre-party going on. He was on Jim Rome, the Jim Rome show recently, and Jim who's still at it, all these years later, is asking the Patriots' tight end, who is his dream spouse? Actually, the

way the question was framed was if there was a woman clad in a red swimsuit that would save you in the ocean, who would it be? And this is what Gronk had to say eloquently. Margo, Robbie. You know that lady off the Wolf of Wall Street?

Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that one. All right. That one. Why? That one. I watched the Wolf of Wall Street. And I was like, damn. Man's a genius.

Also, it was asked about who his dream spouse would be. So ladies, pay attention to this part. all right you really want me to describe lay it out bro all right cleans cooks makes big cash stays at home lets me do whatever I want all right does that seem Mark does that seem fair to look for someone that cleans cooks makes big cash stays at home and lets me do whatever I want I like the idea of a woman making big cash because she should be paid anything we're paid to do the same job. How's that?

Well, she's staying home making cash. Well, there's a lot of people that work from home. I mean, the idea that someone would have to sit in an office chair every single day is antiquated. It reminded me of the spammers in each of our NFL.com articles. Like, my brother-in-law makes $79 an hour working from home. Maybe that's what he's looking for, that spamer. How great is it to be gronk that you just say anything mildly funny, like Margot Roby, as an answer to who would you like?

and everyone just dies laughing in an audience. Just big, just like huge. What if Greg tweeted that out just as his own opinion, he would be under fire? I would be let out of the newsroom. That would be it. I found a flaw in Gronk's logic here. No.

Surprising is that maybe. If she makes big cash, why does she also need to be cleaning? Yeah. You just hire a house. Yeah, that's not fair. And cooks. I mean, you could hire a chef too.

I thought about that too, to be honest with you. But if you read between the lines, I think, and this is not uncommon I think he's looking for his mother but also somehow his mother as an earner on some level Right You know a mother earner

A lot of a lot of And Wes you're not married yet I don't imagine this is how you are But a lot of single guys When they're not married for a while It's because they're trying to find A replacement for their dear old mum And maybe that's where Gronks at

No I'm not married A lot of it goes back to the girl Who engaged herself to me and that freaked me out about marriage for a while so then I lived in Sim for eight years but you know lived in sin so you're not looking for a mother earner I don't think I mean a mother earner

living in the same house as another woman is the least of your sins you need to worry about you know that's fine tusha all right and that's what's happening all right so we talked about at the top of the show we're going to get into a piece from Wes and it is funny whenever we pull up these

articles. There's some NFL now hit on top of it. It's very hard to look at it. It's a shot of Wes, myself, and Colleen Wolf. Obviously, looking elegant and professional, Wes and I, looking like Wes and I. I mean, I've seen us look worse, but it's not always easy to see, you know, the auto play at the top of the page. I think you guys look good. Thanks, Mark. Thanks, Mark. All right, so let's get into... I wish you weren't a liar. Colleen's going to be on the show soon. She's going to be on next Monday. Colleen will be on Monday show

filling in for Chris Wassling who will be on Tybee doing Tybee things. We might have to call Tybee by the way. Oh, it's a tradition. Yeah. So anyway, so let's go through some of these potential

you know, possibilities for records that can go down in the year 2015. And Wes's list has, let's see, five, say, seven different records. Okay. That could crash to the turf. And the first,

one is the one i'm i think has the best chance of going down and the one i hope i hope hope it happens michael strahan's 22 and a half sacks set in 2001 west predicts it to be j j wott i certainly can get behind that logic and i just wanted to happen because that record needs its dignity back after brett farb and strahan uh really they colluded and they they said let's take this record down bret farr's sliding it strah hands feet in a meaningless game at the Meadowlands in 2001. So this record took it from a jet also, Mark Gassano, which I don't like. This record needs its dignity back.

J.J. Watt, give us 23 sacks. I like that one, Wes. Yeah, I would like to see J.J. Watt do it. If not for the recognition, you know, a few people here were griping that J.J. Watt got robbed of the MVP award. He gets more acknowledgement if he breaks records as just how great he is. Well, you were against that, though. You wanted Rogers as MVP.

Right. I think that Rogers is the most valuable player in the NFL and has been for four years. I think this one will go down. That's a good pick. I think it could just as easily be Justin Houston that takes it down. Why not Von Miller or Alden Smith or Robert Quinn? Von Miller was the other name that stuck out to me. I like the fact that they get to go against the Raiders twice a year, all those players.

Got to get a Raiders shot in every 15 minutes on this show. Well, I just, the last year, you know, Justin Houston, half his sacks were against Donald Penn and Kaleaf Barnes. You're lining up on different sides. There's always someone weird that pops up in this category, though. Not that they're an untalented player, but someone will pop up with a giant number and then fall off the next year. Well, no, I think Watt is the hands-down most logical pick, but it is strange to me that you go from Gast to No to Strayhan. And it's been another 14 years since someone's broken. That's why, to me, of all the ones that Wes has listed here,

it's the one that's most likely to go down. I mean, Jared Allen almost broke it a couple years back. It almost went down last year. It's just a matter of time at this point. Especially with the more passes every year, the NFL breaks the record for the most passes in a season by all teams. But that's why why? It's amazing that Watt is even the most logical guy

because he's not truly, like, that's not the main part of his job as an as Dreyer. He gets it done. And they'll have Clownie back potentially. Yeah. Well, we don't know we're going to get out of Clowny. But his name, it popped in my head as like a dark horse to maybe one day break at the record. But we don't know if he's ever going to be the same guy again. We've heard some whispers that haven't been too promising.

But hopefully Clowny gets all the way back. All I know is, you mess with me, you got problems. That's all I know. Back to back. I like that. I haven't done that in a while. I had to get it in. Well done.

Peyton Manning broke two major records in 2013 passing yards, 54-77, and touchdowns. He threw 55, breaking, I guess, Tom Brady at 50. And Tom Brady broke in Peyton Manning's record, he threw 48 in 2004. This is one of those records where you kind of know the numbers and the numbers translate in football. It doesn't always work out that way. 55 touchdowns. The passing yards, to me, I don't get that excited about. But the touchdowns, I think, West thinks Aaron Rogers has a chance to get 55 touchdowns or more.

West throws out Andrew Luck as the guy who can throw over 54-77 yards. Greg, we'll start with you on this one. Do you like either of these? I like both of them, unfortunately. I thought these made a lot of sense. I like to disagree with Wes. Greg likes to hire people who don't make sense in their own. Well, no, not so much that.

You know, it's good podcast material, and it's fun to go back and forth with the other scientists. Rogers, for the most touchdowns, I like that, that he's coming off a season where he's the MVP, but everything is still in place, so much continuity to just keep cranking it, go up and up. I think it's hard for both of these to fall. The one thing with that Broncos-Paten Manning scenario that year, it was even going into the season, you could tell they had everything lined up for a monster year. My question with the Colts, Andrew Luck's the perfect guy to do it, yardage-wise, but, wait, you just got Frank Gore, and you've got Pep Hamilton,

who probably truly wants a more balanced offense they want to run the ball, or is he going to be put in the best position? Sometimes it's not the best quarterback, but a bad offense that can't run the ball that has the most yardage, too. Yeah, it might not be good news for the cult if luck ends up throwing from 5,500 yards, is what you're saying, right?

I think, haven't we heard they want to seek a little bit more balance? Still, he's capable of monster games. Yeah, I don't think that 32-year-old Frank Gore's running the ball 325 times. No, but it's better than the situation they had last year. It is better. I think there's still a past first team. My prediction, and I think they're both good options. I think the Manning 2013 season is one that's going to stand for a long time.

It's going to have the type of legs that Marino's 84 season had. I think... Manning himself said right after he did it that I expect this to fall within a year or two. Yeah, and I mean, I think, well, he's being humble, obviously, too, but I think it's going to be very difficult. I'm not good at math. I've said before I posted a 40 on a state-mandated test as a junior high school. 40 out of 100?

Yes, yes, sir. I feel you. 55 divided by 16. What is that? It's like three and a half touchdowns a game or something? Yeah, a little under that. That's very hard to do. I just don't think it's going to go down.

That was Greg's way of telling you, I am good at math. No, he was right. He nailed it. I mean, it's like, right? I don't know. I just guessed. Yeah, you got it to me. I think mostly, if you want to be good at math, just guess a lot.

So that's my feeling on it. I could be wrong, and, you know, probably am but Calvin Johnson had 1964 yards receiving in 2012 here was the least surprising one on the list West says Odell Beckham he's going nuts and he's going to

drop a 2K on us eventually Wes tell us why O'Dell Beckham stands the best chance well through his first nine starts ever in the NFL he did things that no wide receivers ever done in their entire career he was his nine

stars pro rate to 140 44 catches, 2,128 yards, and 16 touchdowns. And they started doubling, double-teaming him by the end of the year, and his receiving totals would go up every week, even when they doubled him. Now, if Victor Cruz comes back healthy, he'll lose a few targets. But if he's uncoverable, which he proved to be even against Richard Sherman, you're still going to throw the ball to the guy. I think that's super logical, and it's an offense.

I mean, Ben McAdoo, we know he likes to throw the ball dating back to what he had with Green Bay. I'm going to throw another name out. Kyle Shanahan teamed up with Julio Jones and a less explosive Roddy White. I like the fit. We saw Andre Johnson blow up with Kyle Shanahan in years past. So just another guy out there who is capable of having those kind of games where you can compile this type of yardage over a whole season.

I like that one better. I don't like the Beckham because I don't see the Giants throwing quite as much, potentially, and Eli Manning's his quarterback. It's kind of the quarterback winning this award, too. So I'm going to... I'd rather go with Calvin John. Yeah, he was, but they're going to year after year, plus there's going to hopefully, in their minds, I think,

have more weapons and be able to run the ball a little more. Calvin Johnson's great. He's the best receiver in the NFL, but he also has Golden Tate taking 100 catches away from him. Well, is it crazy to wonder if Shane Vareen could pull some yardage away from Beckham each week? I don't think so. I don't think that you're dropping back and purposely targeting Shane Vareen. He's more of a dump-off guy.

I think, and we talked about this on NFL now, Wes. I agree, Beckham's a superstar. 1,500 yards is kind of where I had. I'm looking at the end of his season. 11 for 130 against Washington against Tennessee, 12 for 143 and 3 against Washington, 8 for 148 and 2 against St. Louis, 12 and 185 and 1 against Philly. So I guess not a lot of great defenses there, but if he's being double-teens, he's being double-teamed,

then that's pretty impressive. I mean, St. Louis not only double-teened him, they try to take him out of the game physically. Oh, I remember that. With cheap shots, because their coach told them to do that. How about Demarius Thomas, maybe? Well, I think all that... Well, it all depends if Peyton Manning's younger.

Wow. All right, let's see. But I do love the Julio Jones one. It's possible. Marvin Harrison had 143 catches in 2002. West says Antonio Brown stands the best chance. I like that. He had 129 catches last year,

and if he just adds one more per game, as Wes points out in his article, that would get it done. I don't know if anybody could point out a better option than Antonio Brown for that record. Julian Edelman. Julio Jones again from... Julio Jones. I mean, honestly, Demerius Thomas, not terrible with the other Thomas gone now. Although Kevin Patcher told me this morning there's 0% chance that this actually happens.

Zero? He said 0% chance that Marvin Harrison's record falls. Well, it's pretty low. Of all of these ones, I think that's one of the tougher ones to get to, 143. Antonio Brown put up 129 is incredible, and it's hard to imagine he'd repeat that. Never been a better time for this to happen, though. What if Levy and Bell gets injured? Okay.

I mean, most of these records fall because something like that happens. Here's one I like. I like Randy Moss, 23 receiving touchdowns in 2007, of course. That is the 16-0 regular season by. the Patriots ended 18 and 1, Greg. A little fun fact. Mark, West throws out Des Bryant, and before I throw it to you,

I will say that I think Brian, as somebody that I draft Des Bryant every year in fantasy because he's my favorite player to watch, and nobody has a better nose for the end zone than Des Bryant with the football as a wide receiver. That's why their season ended, because he was stretching to try to turn that final fourth-down play into a touchdown,

and the ref stole from him. you know, whatever. But Wes thinks, as Brian can get 23 touch ends, but Des has a weird thing where he can disappear for stretches, which has always been odd to me. And then he'll just kill a team for a quarter.

So his lack of consistency in an in-game basis I think would stop him from getting that high. Your thoughts, Mark? Sure. I mean, you got Cole Beasley in Dallas, too, so sorry, Wes. He's going to do a lot of damage. Oh, Colo!

I love him. He's the blonde-maned, beautiful receiver that's one of my favorite players in the league. But, again, I go Demarius Thomas, because, again, you lose. Julius Thomas had how many touchdowns last year, 12? So, again, I just think that he's going to be the centerpiece of an offense that's going to lean on him. They don't have, I don't, I'm just throwing out there. Am I the only one that thinks that the Broncos are going to really come down to Earth offensively this year?

I really think Peyton Mang was going to look old this year. I may write something tomorrow that will tell you, I agree with you. I didn't go with Demarious Thomas because he's not a great jump. ball guy. He doesn't win battles on jump balls nearly as much as other guys built like him like Dez and Holyo Jones. Yeah, I immediately think of all the teams that'll score the most amount

of touchdowns, but there's not a lot of logical candidates there. Dallas and Dez Bryant, they had one of the top five offenses. I think he's the most logical. Because the Green Bay, they'll spread it around, Patriots spread it around. Gronk really, except for 2011 hasn't really had a huge touchdown

number. Greg raises a fist. We're like, yes, you're right. You're our supervisor. And finally, West saves this one for last, which is one of my favorites, if not my favorite, the rushing, all-time rushing title holder, which is one that's been standing now for over 30 years. Eric Dickerson ran for 2105 and 84. Adrian Peterson, of course, came within eight yards of tying that record a couple of years back.

And Chris Wesley still thinks Adrian Peterson, whether he's on the Vikings or wherever, has the best chance of any running back in football of beating Dickerson. Why not? I love all this people who think that because he's going to turn 30 and he took a year off that it's actually going to hurt him. I mean, the same people have to have been doubting him a lot more coming off of a shredded knee a couple of years ago. I think he's obviously the most likely of any running back to do it. Plus, he's the angriest runner the NFL has seen since maybe Earl Campbell. And so how angry is he going to be now after?

Steve Smith, angry? What's happened over the last year and just fresh legs? I could see it. I could see one of my initial thoughts when I saw this was I would say he has an even better chance to break the touchdown record. I feel like that one's a little more attainable. You could break the touchdown. 31 touchdowns?

Let's do it. 20, well, it's 28, I think, rushing. Oh, has he ever had more than 18? How about single season carries 416? The Vikings clearly in their own. own way, try to just use up as much Adrian Peterson as they can before saying so long to him. Well, it's one of, with the way that the free agency shifted some of the bigger name backs around, too, it's one of the few chances where Adrian Peterson's on the field, no one's taking carries away from

this guy. He's going to have the chance. I mean, had C.J. Spiller not gone to the Saints, I would have liked Mark Ingram as a sneaky potential guy if he fulfilled his potential because they're going to run the ball so much. But that's the Saints. They throw no matter what. Let me throw one thing out there because we... Mark tucks himself out of this point. You know what? I cannot have said. Wes won this argument on this Adrian Peterson.

We're a team. Let me throw one thing out there about Peterson because we talked about how the Eagles are right to make a move and get rid of Lashon McCoy because he was coming off a season that wasn't as good as the season before and he was at an age around 28 where maybe it's the right time to get out. If you look at the difference between Peterson's 2012 season where he had 2,100 yards.

In 2013, where he had 1,260 yards, his yards per carry dropped a yard and a half, averaged 40 less yards per game. His numbers dropped off across the board, and they weren't close to what he did in 2012. Same age as McCoy at the time. Then he sits out football for a year, and I was going to come back,

and we're going to assume that he's going to be the same guy he always was when he's 30 years old and a running back. We are. I'm just saying, you know, you point to every other player ever, you know, it's probably not a good chance for him He's not every other player ever now. He's entirely different than any running back we've seen in our lifetimes. And the difference in that 2013 stat line is that, A, that Vikings' offense really held him back. And when you just watched him week to week, I still think he was the best running back in the league, or one of the top two, that year.

So the numbers didn't blow you away. Is he an offense? If he's in Minnesota this year, that's going to allow him to have a tournament. It's better. Norv and Teddy Bridgewaters. I wouldn't like it if he goes to the Cardinals. It's better. But I think when you watched him that year, he was even a lot better than those numbers indicated, whereas McCoy, not so much. So there, we've got an answer for you.

All right. I mean, it's fun. It's a fun answer. I would love to see him come back with a ton of heat. I think it would be fun to see him chase that record again, but we'll see where ends up. Do you have any records? Do you think he'll be broken?

Punter average. I'm really like that gentleman out of Tennessee, who just got the big contract, Brett Kern. No, listen, that's solid. And he's put some real hang-town at the ball. Old Kearney. No, I don't really have one, actually. I was starting to dip into the passer rating thing.

I like passer rating more than other people. I think it's cool. Aaron Rogers, I think, said it two years ago, or three years ago, his first MVP season. 2011. Yeah, I think that maybe he could break his own record. I agree, but I didn't want to promote passer rating as a statistic. Yeah, I know it's not, people don't like passer rating. Drew Brees could break the completion percentage for, like, the first.

fourth time in his career. I think he owns either the top two or three completion percentage as ever. Not very fun. How about this one? Blake Bortle sets the all-time sacked in a season record. Was in the top 10, I think, all-time last year with the jacks. Top 20. It's possible. They haven't done much to fix the line. That is not a good deal. Let me guess. You're not picking the Jaguars to be any good this year. Well, I think they'll throw a lot and he'll get sacked a lot. It could happen. I've got one for you, though. Here's another one. David Carr still have that record? Yeah, 76. For a little

while last year, Tannahill was on pace for it, and I think he ended up with more than Bordles. Capernick was up there. Bordles was up there. Now, this is a random step, but game-winning drives in a season. Would you guys try to guess who holds this record, by the way?

Go around the table. Little win, Wes's toaster. Who holds the record for game-winning drives? Yeah, right now. Deliam Annie. You got it. You tied. I can't believe you got that. I was also going to say, Eli Manning, just for the record. It's actually a tie with him. How you like that, Wesling?

I'll take the Vegemite winning. It's ridiculous. Good job by West. Jake Delome holds it with him somehow. Oh, it was early in his career. I remember that. Yeah, the 2003. The very good Panthers team.

Jake Plummer, one of the men tied with seven. Wait, wasn't Don Pastroni pretty high on that list? He's looking over pastoral. He's looking at the left. Russell breaks it this year. Nine. I mean, you know, nine.

Russell Wilson. Yeah, he'll do it. I'll take it. Because they're just going to win 15. in games and maybe they'll be behind in a bunch. I'll take luck. What does that even mean, you have to be losing at a certain point,

or is it just fourth quarter? I think that means a fourth quarter, you have a touchdown drive to win the game to take the league. I've never really loved that stat myself. I don't believe it's touchdown, so I think if you leave the team to a field goal, I think that still counts.

Game winning. Is there any, how about on the flip side, you kind of hit one with sacks? Is there anybody that could set a sad record in 2015? you know, for stinking, being stinky. Trent Richardson. For what would the record be?

But he'll never get enough carries to be. The lowest yards per carry average. I don't know if that's just being, you know, an absolute. That's your horse in the race, remember. I need him to get one carry and I win a sandwich. No one is going to touch George Blanda's record for interceptions in a season 42. Blando. Oh, God.

You'd be benched by week. Someone asked that in response to my article, and I said, yeah, I said exactly. exactly what Mark said. That quarterback would be yanked. He's seven clear of number two on the list, which was Vinnie Testiverty with the Bucks, and even that was back in 88. No one on the list is from the 90s in the top 10.

Vinny was colorblind. He had the Greg Rosenthal affliction. That was the joke back when he was going to play on no matter what. Yeah, that was the joke that he was thrown to the wrong uniform. Vinny's done a lot of important work, raising awareness for other colorblind people. He's kind of are... I'll throw this out there.

He's kind of the guy we've always looked towards as a member of the community that lets everyone know. It's okay. It's okay It's okay To be colorblind Fini Testivari James Winston could throw 35

interceptions for the bucks That's not a bad pick I thought about him For the sacks too Just because it seems like He's going to try to keep Every play alive Interceptions Sacks

His college interceptions were crazy Yeah So that's a great one See it all comes back around Now you're glad I brought up Winston Yeah One last thing before we go The big giveaway day

over at the NFL media headquarters mentioned Dwayne Mung our social media coordinator unable to get his Jets helmet off you know we all put in emails for your favorite team or whatever and then they give it to you and it does bring up

an interesting thought like Wes what team would you ask for which helmet would you ask for considering you retired from being a bangless fan it's a very difficult decision I have eliminated whole divisions here basically you have the Bengals on one hand

because I could give it to multiple family members or friends as a Christmas gift or something like that That's strong Or you know I've got a list of like five teams that I could choose between But I'm definitely not picking an NFC East or AFC East team Because I can't stand them They get way too much media attention I'm not taking any

I get a Titans helmet and be done with it West Not taking any West teams because you know Football started in the Midwest I'm definitely taking a Midwestern team so I've got Packers, Steelers, Bears, Colts, and I can't even think about the Falcons because of my time spent in Georgia. But probably not the Falcons.

It was probably one of those Midwestern teams. The Colts are really, to me, an AFC East team, they're a former Baltimore team. I'm surprised they got in the conversation for you. You love Andrew. I love the old Baltimore Colts. If you've ever seen the movie Diner,

I think it's hard not to love the old Baltimore coach. Maybe you get the Spengals thinking you're going to give it to a family member, and then you think, Well, am I really going to bring a gigantic helmet onto a plane to bring back home? And then it just sits around your apartment in a couple years. And then slowly you see that every morning as you wake up. Andy Dalton gets out of the picture.

And that relationship feels. I can see the movie already. And a montage scenario at some point, you in this helmet. Right. For our younger listeners... Maybe you marry the helmet. For our younger listeners, Diner was a 1982 coming-of-age comedy drama. read a book, watch a movie.

So that was Wes's reference of the day. And speaking of Wes, you will now leave for Tybee Island, where you will have a fun time. And we will check in with you. So enjoy your time off, Wes. I will, thank you. And we will be back on Friday with one more show this week. What we're going to talk about?

I don't know, something. Probably football-related, mostly. So that's what's going to happen. Stan Hansis signing off. For Quiet Storm, the mailman, the boss, Tay Day, Will Behind the Glass. Till Thursday, till Friday.