NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Red Ryder BB Guns & Cual es tu Fantasia

Episode Date: November 17, 2015

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling, and Marc Sessler – discuss the latest news from around the NFL, including Broncos quarterback Brock Osweiler getting the start over an injured Peyton Manning, and a full break down of the beef between Texans defensive end JJ Watt and Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton. Plus, the long-awaited return of “Cual es tu Fantasia?”Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast. Watch them whip. Watch them, nay, hey. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansus,

and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosethal. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. Mm-mm-mm. Dick Mark's face.

when that money tag intro was said was priceless. You looked like something had been seriously wrong in your diet or something like that. I mean, it was fine. I made a similar face. Sidney did a great job, I think it was last Friday, where she did a little isolated video of the reaction of the four of us when we played Ray Lewis's terrible rap single or R&B signal or whatever. whatever it was.

You call it great. I call it horrifying. Listen, Greg, the evidence is out there and you are into it. Right, but seeing it was horrifying. I thought you came out the best out of all of us. And it was so funny. It really was a split of generations because Greg and I were both enjoying ourselves dancing.

And Wes and Mark were having none of it, the old men on the porch. Another episode of absolute selective memory by Dan. I was jacked up on cold medicine. I wouldn't have danced if a fire were on in this building. Yeah, this whole generation thing. I was trying to hear what words were coming out of Ray Lewis's mouth. I could not understand him. That was also the fifth time that song had been played that day for anyone involved in this podcast.

That was the first time I ever heard it, but I don't, I'm not in the cube with you guys anymore necessarily. Well, when the lights are on, Mark, you have to react as if it's the first time. This is show business. Absurd recollection. And by the way, if you had taken no cold medicine, I can't imagine that you would be dancing regardless. I know. Well, I am on record saying that Ray Lewis is the most annoying human being in North America. So I'm not, why would I have, what were you expecting?

Well, I don't think anybody really liked the song. No. Well, just having a little fun in the studio. You just having some fun. That was a spontaneous eruption of fun by Greg. So, yes, that is, there is, all four of us, you know, we're one, but we're not the same. And now we look ahead. Are you quoting Bono?

Yes. I am moving ahead to Tuesday, the addition of the Around the NFL podcast, a jam-packed around the NFL podcast, where we will get into the Monday night football recap between the Texans and Cincinnati Bengals, who entered the game undefeated. Spoiler alert, it didn't end that way.

Nailed it. We also got a lot of news to get to in the NFL. We're going to hit up the Thursday night preview, and yes, tease this for a couple of weeks now. it will be happening at the end of today's show. We will bring back one of our favorite segments on the around the NFL podcast. It is, what's your fancy?

No, translation. Qualas to Fantasia. What do you got, Mark? Say it. What do I have? Yeah. What is the name of the segment? Qualas to Fantasia. Wes to Fantasia.

Greg. Qualest to Fantasia. Sydney. Qualest to Fantasia. Ooh, I like that. Sound like a Spaniard there. That was good. Well, this is big.

I was from my best friend who served a Mormon mission in Chile. Oh, Chile. I needed to make her proud. It's Chile. Oh, see, I'm already feeling. Wacamole. Yes, so we will play a little qualas tu fantasia at the end of the show. So let's get right to.

We'll start with the Monday night football game. Yes, a game we thought the Houston Texans. We're going to be over and matched by the Cincinnati Bengals. But it didn't work out that way. Oh, by the way, this is not the ESPN primetime music. Shadowy League figures deem that to be not permissible on the podcast anymore. This is pretty jaunty, though. It's got a little jaunt to it.

We did the best we could. So this is what we're using. Not bad. Okay, here we go. What we learned, this was the big game between the Houston Texans and the Cincinnati Bengals. A 10-6 Texans win, T. Yates. A certified Bengals killer throws the touchdown late in the game to D'Andre Hopkins on a great catch by Hopkins. The Bengals have one last chance to go down field. They can't get it done.

They get to the red zone when AJ Green gets stripped. Game over, Chris Wesleying. So the perfect season for Cincinnati is over. They are now eight and one. And the Houston Texans are in first place in the AFC South. How is this happening, Wes? Your takeaways, you wrote the What We Learned piece on NFL.com.

This game, the Bengals were doomed as soon as Brian Hoyer got a concussion because T.J. H is a flat-out bang. He owns the Bengals. I mean, he's got property

in Cincinnati. He didn't even look particularly good. I was going to say, he was willing to throw the ball up for grabs to DeAndre Hopkins instead of handing the

ball off to Jonathan Grimes, which was turned out to be a smart move. If they played that game 10 times from the moment T.J. Yates comes in. How many times do you think the Texans win? 10. 10. T.J. Yates owns the Bengals. I agree with Dan. Someone impartial chime in on this.

I think the eight out of 10 times to the Bengals because the end of it came down to a turnover, which was, you know, not how it's going to end with A.J. Green time again. It was a weird game, though. Well, not only does T.J. Yeats own the Bengals, but Jonathan Joseph owns A.J. Green. A.J. Green has never scored in five meetings with Jonathan Joseph. Joseph has four picks. I mean, that was one of those games where you play your former team in your former home that you played in, that he couldn't have made the Bengals. He couldn't have buried the Bengals anymore. It was one of the better performances we've seen from a cornerback all year.

The whole game is outstanding. The rookie cornerback on the other side, Kevin Johnson, I thought, had an even better game than Jonathan Joseph. He's had other good games this year, too. He looks good. He's good cornerback. A lot of penalties, but their defense suddenly is playing. well. They played well against Zach Mettenberger, which I guess a lot of teams do, held them to six points and then hold the Bengals. This is another

four team for us to have to worry about now? But they're in first place. It is outrageous. How many of the Texans' best moments in franchise history were authored by T.J. Yates, who has only started five games in his career. The win in Cincinnati to clinch

a playoff spot, that's a big one. The first ever win in team history, that's T.J. Yates. They've only one, too, and he's got one of them. First playoff win. In which JJ Watt, I believe, batted a ball down and took it to the house. He did pick six. Right. Yates did very little, but that's kind of how it goes. It was amazing to see the Bengals off and struggle this one. By the way, what got it, who possessed Tyler Eifert and turned him into the most stone-handed receiver, tight end in football?

That was a big deal in this game, and A.J. Green had a big drop in the fourth quarter. This was not obviously A.J. Andy Dalton's best game. He did not play. particularly well, but his weapons let him down in a big spot here. I think it's for me because now it's, oh, Ken, is this Bengals team going to become what we sort of thought they were, revert closer to that than what they've been for the first eight games they won. They play Arizona now on Sunday night. And you either go in Arizona, in Arizona, which is absolutely the toughest game they've

faced all season, huge tests for them, and I want to see them bounce back. I think they will. There was a narrative, it was brought up in our meeting. this morning that Dalton didn't really have that bad a game that drops really hurt him the whole team. And I would disagree with that. He was lucky that he only had one interception. It could have been three or four. That game could have ended in a lot of different ways where they dropped interceptions. I also thought he hasn't really thrown that well deep now for three straight weeks. He started out the season being the old Andy Dalton. He had a good game against

Cleveland, but just kind of a move-the-stick type of game. And I would say two of his worst three games are in the last few weeks. He did not have a good game against Pittsburgh either. So it's a little bit of a trend that he's not playing as well as he was early in the season. Can't you look at any quarterback in the league right now and say that there have been at least a couple games for every one of these guys where they've struggled?

And so it's the same with Andy Dalton. Not Tom Brady or Ben Rathesbock. Okay, now that's it. He's a figure of suspicion, though, which you get. It is just funny because there is an Andy Dalton. It's almost like maybe he's a little star crossed in the sense that he was leading them down the field at the end of the game,

including what was that a huge third and 17 or was a fourth and 17 third and 19 and keep the game alive they're in the red zone and then who lets them down his wide receiver sometimes you think is dalton just cursed well i think cursed andy don't guys like russell wilson and erin rogers even get criticized for for sandlot football being a little too improvisational for letting the play break down and then you know running around the pocket trying to create plays any dalton's the opposite He's sort of a paint-by-numbers quarterback. He does what the play calls for, and if the play breaks down,

he doesn't really have an answer for that. And John Gruden, who I think is having a Renaissance season. I'm being dead serious. I think people like to pick on Gruden. I think he might be the best color guy that there is right now, because I learned something from him when he watches, when I watch the game.

And I think he was nailing how Romeo Cornell was mixing up the coverages and to exactly what you were saying, confusing Dalton right on his first read and then he didn't know what to do. Well, they're a common opponent. The Texans have played the Bengals almost every year and they know what Hugh Jackson and what Andy Dalton do. Well, that said, the Bengals came out

with some of the most bizarre and multiple looks that we've seen from any team all season. Oh, well, on the opening drive, yeah. Yeah, and then it all went away. I've always liked Gruden. Good. I don't see it as a... I feel like anybody that does the primetime games

are under a microscope, especially the color guys. even I love Collinsworth. He gets killed all the time. Oh, he's great. But, yeah, Gruden's a boy. It took Gruden like five years to actually criticize a player. Well, that's part of why I think he's better now than he's been, because I think he's more critical than he used to do.

Absolutely. Well, I think part of it was he was potentially going to be a coach again at some point, and now I don't think that's happening. Life's too good. That's a good gig he's got. Work one day a week, maybe. We've got to give Charles James some love, by the way. Seven tackles in that game.

Yeah, Chuck. Your significant action as a pro is outstanding. Yeah, we should also. talk about what happened after the game j j wott uh was uh interviewed by who was it lisa salters yes who and this is uh this is how that played out yeah i mean our goal is to come out here and make the red rifle look like a red rider b b b b gun and i think we did that wow where's so uh how how long did was this rehearsed uh by j j wott ahead of this game he i i tweeted this and got i got banged by houston fans whatever he was staring in the mirror

with that Red Rider BB gun line. He was waiting to drop it and he got his opportunity. Absolutely. It was lame. It was corny and it was just a very gentle dig. Gentle dig. And then this is how Andy Dalton responded to the dig when asked about it during his post-game presser.

I'm disappointed in him to, I mean, for the integrity of this game. You know, I have a lot of respect for him. Integrity. He's a really good player. And so there's a lot of kids and a lot of people that look up to him. And for him to make comments like that, he's just showing that, you know, that's acceptable to do that kind of stuff

and say that kind of stuff. Well, somebody please think of the children. Calm down, Andy. That was... I don't need to know anything else about Andy Dalton ever again. If he's going to be this thin skin, no wonder why he doesn't perform well under pressure. That was a very telling.

I know it was a tough, situation. He just lost. Yes. But he got called a red driver BB gun and he acted like Greg Hardy insulted his wife or something. Here's the thing with some of these modern professional athletes is that so many, 98%

of these guys will never say anything interesting on camera or to a reporter. And then when somebody does, I'm not saying what Watts said was funny or cutting or interesting, but it was different. These guys are robots. They don't even know how to react. Their wires get crossed so he defaults to this guy's impugning upon the

integrity of the league. The other thing, tracking both these guys in hard-knock seasons over recent summers, is that Watt is, you know, phony's a strong word, but he's very calculated and he's trying to present himself in a certain way, a modern-day Paul Bunyan with his sharp tongue or whatever it is. I don't know what's going on a love of hip-hop. And then you have Andy Dalton, who's like a super, super, seems like a nice Christian boy. There was a hard-knocks clips where he was singing Christian.

music in his locker and he's a nice guy. You know he's not like a nasty person. So I think he was just taken way back by anybody throwing shade at him in a public spot like that. He's been taking shade publicly for five seasons now. And does he have a problem with Marvin Lewis calling Johnny Manzella midget? I don't know. That's a good question. I mean, the Bengals throw shade at people and Andy Dalton didn't complain about that.

But I don't really have a problem with Andy Dalton getting upset over J.J. Watt, who I do think is relatively phony. Right. My problem a little bit is that it's JJ Watt, who since the summer has struck me, as Dan said it perfectly best, one of the more calculated people around. I think Dan's tiresome. I'm tired of it. This is where Dan is tapping into the common man.

I think you hit it on the head that when you watch that, he had a little point about, you know, the people who didn't believe we were going to win this game. And that felt like it was rehearsed too, but it didn't come out quite right. Like you didn't nail that landing, whatever that joke was. There was that line, but the red rider thing he got out. It was good that he practiced. I'm waiting for J.J. Watts intern to change his Twitter profile to modern-day Paul Bunyan with a love of hip-hop. I don't know what that was.

It's all accurate, though. All right. So that's the Monday night game. So it bears watching both these teams, two first-place teams in the AFC. What is happening in the NFL? Sidney, why don't we do some news now? I drink a lot of milk. Was that Wattah?

That was Big Ben. That was Rathusberger. That's how he returned to action so quickly. I only know that was Big Ben because I read Mark's consistently incredible Tuesday Heroes. Wow, what a description. Consistently incredible. That's exactly what you want. Some of the best football writing on the Internet, I think.

Wow. Wes, anything else? Go ahead. No, I mean, I like Mark's writing. As we all do, is there a vanity URL, Mark? Not that I know of. What is a vanity URL going to do for anyone? I don't know.

It just gives a little more legitimacy. Cache. We'll get it. Takes it to the next level. Let's start a lot of news, as I said. So we're going to have to move through this relatively quickly with each story, but we're going to make sure I hit all the important stuff. We'll start with what's going on in Denver.

Peyton Manning will not face former Broncos coach John Fox when the Broncos travel to Chicago to take on the Bears this week. He has been ruled out. He has a case of planter fasciitis. Is that how you pronounce it? Fasciitis. Fashitis. That means Brock Osweiler gets the start.

Manning, of course, coming off the worst game statistically of his career, a zero passer rating. And now it is Brock Osweiler's chance to get the job. Mark Sessler, do you believe if Brock Osweiler plays well that Peyton Manning will be told to get comfortable and rest that foot as much as possible? No, I don't think so. My feeling with Kubiak was that although it was sort of poorly constructed on how long Manning was out there, that he genuinely felt bad that Manning was not healthy.

He was also taking blame for what happened. But I don't think that you keep Mansell on, or you keep Manning on the bench if Brock Oswald comes and just does what his job is, which is be a backup, win a game, get out of there until Peyton Manning's healthy. They've got to see him melt down again before you bench the guy. But I think there has to be a level of play for Amin. Osweiler that if he reaches that level, you keep the job. Maybe it's a really high level based on what you're saying. He has to light it up.

But if he throws for four touchdowns this week and 300 yards, and then the next week he beats the Patriots, it'd be insane to take him out. So I do think there's a level if he played really well, then, yeah, I think he keeps the job. We say this almost every time there's a quarterback controversy. No matter what the heck goes says, everything in the NFL is a fluid situation.

adjustments can be made for your philosophy based on how well the other quarterback plays. And look, planterfishitis ended Larry Bird's career. Antonio Gates had never missed a game and finally missed when he had to dealt with this injury. This half the season. This could cause Peyton Manning to miss the rest of the season. He might never be himself again. And I think it's not your average quarterback controversy because you've got an NFL legend. On the other hand, Kubiak owes it to his team in a Super Bowl window to play the better player.

I think if he comes in and he plays one game and they say manning is healthy after that, which it sounds like with this injury, that's a stretch. If he plays multiple games, Osweiler and performs well, then it opens up the window for a switch. Well, there's areas of gray here because of the inherent nature of the injury. I don't know if there's going to be a moment where they're like, okay, you're cured. You know, there's going to be, oh, can he manage the pain enough? He is an older quarterback. His younger brother had the same injury or had planter fasciitis.

in the 2019 and played through it the whole time. I think it is just phishitis. I think the correct. I like Dan's. I like... And Eli Manning never sat down. I mean, he played through it. But the difference is that Eli had a really strong arm

and had other physical attributes that could maybe make up for it. Whereas Peyton Manning, this is a cascading thing where he doesn't have the arm to make up for, you know, planting and there's all sorts of things. Also, when your Manning's age, one injury like this leads to further injury. You'll start compensating. Moving on, the Dallas Cowboys will finally get their starting quarterback back on the field.

Tony Romo is expected to start for the team on Sunday. The Cowboys have played seven games without Romo since he fractured his collarbone in week two. They have lost each of those games, and yet are still just two and a half games back in the NFC East. Romo got a little cute on Twitter today and posted a clip from the old movie Major League, the old Charlie Sheen movie. I might have to suspend the Duh winning. Yeah, I might put that on ice for a tad.

All right, let's just, I'm going to let it look because, you know, it's important to me to bring back Dough winning, but I don't want to, you know, I don't want to mess this up. So I'm going to put it on the shelf again, Greg. I didn't know it was still available or on any show.

I mean, I haven't heard it said by any human other than you once a month in this studio. It's disrespectful. It's one of the great. catch phrases of all time. Anyway, so Romo, yeah, posted video of Major League. It was like a clip from that movie where

we're going to win the whole bleeping thing, kind of a nodding thing. But also, you know, maybe in a weak division, the Cowboys King go on a run. So that's where he was coming from. To make room on the roster, they dumped Brandon Whedon, who literally two months ago, not even two months ago.

A month ago. No, it was about two months ago. When Jerry Jones? When Jerry Jones made the comment that... You won't see a more gifted passer, power accuracy, the entire aspect of it. He's a thing of beauty throwing a football. Exactly.

Then Whedon goes 0 and 3. They bench him. They go get Matt Castle, who's been 0 and 4, but played a little bit better. So they decided Castle is the better option. Behind Romo, Cowboys get in their house in order. Kristen Michael also released on Tuesday. So that never really worked out in their backfield.

It's been a lot of things moving, a lot of moving parts in Dallas right now. I think you really have to question the Cowboys' front office when they're just going to go and release the most gifted passer in football. Fair. I mean, what's the acumen there? Yeah. Your Cowboys running back sandwiches are now evening out. You're getting some for Joseph Randall's troubles,

but Kristen Michael, your boy, is going to cost you some. The projection that you had just for the listeners was that Michael would lead the Cowboys in running rushing. I don't know, did he get more than even two carries? I don't know. He's a mess. I remember that my second son, Colton, was born and hours after he was born, when it was time for everyone

to try to go to sleep, I snuck out to go watch the first round of the 2012 draft, knowing that the Cleveland Browns had two picks and they were going to change their franchise forever for the better. Looking back, that is one of the worst drafts of all time. Trent Richardson and Brandon

Weeden. Both on the scrap heap. Now, if you want the browns can go get them back they could have that would be too odd they could have Justin gilbert johnny mansell brandon weed in uh and trent richardson all under the same roof if they wanted they wanted they might have a franchise quarterback in johnny manzell wow yeah maybe speaking of johnny manzell the browns will do what they they needed to do this is a good job mark by your organization here they will start johnny manzell at quarterback for the rest of the season mike petton announced this on tuesday that Mansell will be their guy, not Josh McCown.

The Browns, of course, are 2 and 8, not going anywhere. But Manzell's coming off a game where he played very well against the Steelers. So, and Petten said that he took a, quote, big step forward. So the decision was made. Let's roll with Manzell, see what we got. And it allows them to truly evaluate this young passer mark before they make their next big decision at a future draft. Well, you're right.

It was the only way to go. probably should have come sooner than this. It's funny, you never know how any decision is being made inside that building at this point, but it sounds like Petten for so many months felt like if I'm going to keep my job and my coaching staff's going to keep their jobs, we've got to go with McCown because he's the better quarterback. But it feels to me today that this is the only way for that coaching staff to really go into the offseason with some momentum.

Is Mansell proving that he might have a spark of a franchise quarterback or someone they can lean on with some value versus nothing. Well, and what's wrong with Mansell having to prove himself, which he did? Ultimately, he gave Petten no choice. When I watched that game, I think, well, there's no chance they bench him now because he played so much better in that game in terms of his decisiveness. I thought they were very unlucky, and it wasn't really on Manzell that they only scored nine points. I thought he had a really promising game, and that when they saw that,

and Petten, you could hear it on Monday before they. he made this announcement. He said he played his ass off. He said he showed significant progress. You know, he was very tough in that he had that terrible first play, but then ended up bouncing back. I mean, it was a really good young quarterback performance. It was only one, but at least you have one,

and now you want to see if he can do a bunch. I think this is what the goal is for the Browns. If they can go 500 in the second half and Mansell can show something, I think, do you think that could save jobs? Do you think that would be enough to be competitive, win some games, and him show prize. progress? Yes, much more than what the plan seemed to be three weeks ago was we trust Josh McCown and we're going to try to get three or four wins with him down the

stretch, which leaves you with nothing. The season meant literally nothing. You can give a bad season some meaning and that can save jobs if the meaning comes from the quarterback position. Wasn't perfect, took some bad sacks. That was not perfect. The first few drives were a little erratic. But after that, I mean, he's improved from game to game, I think. more quarterback news case keenam it is case keenem time chris wrestling in st louis he will be starting for the rams at baltimore this week nick foals benched uh foals who has been uh very bad this year and i you know he signed a big deal or a nice deal before the season that just that just that turned out to be a great decision a personal decision made maybe not for the rams but now he's going to be

on the bench and case keenum who as west will tell you had some moments some moments some moments early in his career now gets a shot to lead a Rams team that would be legitimately good and a playoff contender if they can just get some you know average quarterback play case Keenham's not the answer but he's a much more fun quarterback to watch because he lets it fly like you let your case Keenum flag fly he'll throw it down the field he'll take chances he'll run around the pocket unlike nick fools who will miss throws down the field doesn't take too many chances and basically now the second coaching staff in a calendar year that's decided he's not the answer.

Here's the default. This is now the default coach speak whenever they bench a guy at quarterback. You know, Nick just needs a break, Jeff Fisher said. Nick just needs a break right now. What does that even mean? Nick Foles was, you know, they gave up Sam Bradford for him.

They did get a second round pickback, but they gave him guaranteed money next year. So he is paid, I believe, a $6.75 million dollar roster bonus. He's due seven or six and a 0.75 or 7.75 next year. And that's on the books. That is a high number for a guy who at best is going to be competing to start. You basically have to keep them around now to compete to start. It is an amazing thing, though, in the middle of a season where they really need to make the playoffs and show some progress under Jeff Fisher, that they're going to a guy who was undrafted who was on their practice squad last year with the same team, that they let him go freely last year back to Houston.

before they, you know, re-signed them. That's how they viewed Case Keatim last year, and yet this is a guy they still think has a better chance to help them win than Nick Foles. Do they need to show that? What? I mean, I think they go seven and nine, and they've got a GM with nice hair, and you just roll right into next season like they do every year.

Less lead is like the team. They've always had the quarterback. And that GM last year who said what, Sam Bradford will never not be the quarterback of this team? Jeff Fisher once said Sam Bradford can be the best quarterback in the NFL. He traded him for a guy he just pinched. Right. And, you know, less need is the GM equivalent of what Rob Deere was in baseball in the early 90s, late 80s where he's going to strike out like 280 times.

He's going to hit 26 home runs. That was the record. Some big hits, some big misses. That's the less need experience. So the same year that he adds a stud to his backfield, he bombs out at the quarterback position. Foles was fine in September. He started off this season, okay, but he has been one of the very worst quarterbacks in the league. He hasn't had a decent game since week four.

so, which is a crazy amount of time. The good news for Rams fans that Jeff Fisher is right on track to go seven and nine. So Nick Foles, yes, he was traded for Sam Bradford in the offseason. And speaking of Sam Bradford, he is likely to miss the next two games with those pair of injuries suffered against the dolphins, a concussion and a separated shoulder. The schedule does the Eagles no favors. They have a game coming up on Sunday and then the Thanksgiving game coming up right after that so it looks like we're going to get two games of mark sanchise starting for the eagles this is

all reporting from rap sheet in rap report uh so here we go the sanchise people wanted the sanchise here comes to sanchise second year in a row we get sanchise on a national holiday he killed it last year on thanksgiving that's right but fingle butt fumble a couple of years before that on thanksgiving so he's a bit of a grab bag on turkey day it's really become a tradition unlike any other, Sanchez, the family, some turkey. He's a guy that brings America together. Their schedule isn't terrible. I mean, the bucks are better than people give them credit for,

but you've got Tampa Bay this week, then Detroit on Thanksgiving. I mean, it's not the worst situation for Sanchez. That's what's called a recipe for Sanchez to keep that job. Even though he made some bad decisions last week, they did move the ball, and I don't think he can, I think he can live up. I think he can match whatever St. Bradford's been doing this year. Do we want to break the news, Greg, about Thanksgiving night? What news is this?

About the podcast? Well, we're going to have special video. I don't know if it's going to be an audio form, but if you really are hankering for us that much, you will be able to see some NFL now recaps from the Thanksgiving games with yours. We should do, like I'm making it into a mini audio show. We could. We can talk about that off the show.

show but that would have to be separate if you want to plan out the show in real time right now on the podcast you're off the show decision Greg just off the show talked me yeah which is basically like shut the f up we'll talk about this I just want to have a good show for the listener well how do you know the listeners don't like oh this is inside baseball this is how the sausage the sausage gets made I like sausage okay me too you know what I like the throne of slees dealing with issues although I don't like to see injuries cause that and that's what's going on right now because Julian Edelman, the star wide receiver, the handsome, charismatic. Oh, you do like it.

Why are you even pretending you don't like injuries to be a problem for them? You totally like it. I don't like anybody getting hurt. Please. Anyway. Really on your face right now as you're talking to that. Julian Edelman, he had a screw inserted in his foot. So he is out six to eight weeks.

And if you do the math, Greg, because we are entering week 10. It's week 10. He's out 16. eight weeks that puts him out. We're entering week 11. Your mathematician guy needs a week 11? A raise. You're my mathematician guy.

I blew it. Anyway, asking for a self-raise. January. He'll be back with this foot injury. So no Dionne Lewis, who is their best passing game option out of the backfield. Now you lose your number one wide receiver, Greg. I think we talked about this a little bit on Sunday. But this is now a significant issue.

you. I know Danny Amadola, Wes is one of your favorites. Perhaps he could step in and he was targeted a lot on Sunday. But this is a real challenge for the old Belichick. It's not just that you're losing Edelman and Lewis. You're losing the ability to run three wide receiver sets. Touched on this in Next Gen Notebooks, Next Gen Stats notebook this week. Nice plug. After Edelman's injury in the first quarter, the Patriots ran just four of 26 plays in the second and third quarter out of three wide receiver sets.

It wasn't until they had to go into comeback mode. Bill Belichick finally said, I guess I have to trust Aaron Dobson. They don't want to use Aaron Dobson. Right, they don't want to use Dobson. It's hoping that Scott Chandler can step up James White. You're now getting to the guys that you don't believe can really be part of a great offense. Yeah, you're going from an offense that has scored in every single quarter outside of the first quarter of the season to one that's going to be a run heavier offense with fewer options in it. It's funny because they could have signed Wes Welker if this happened a week earlier.

Now they can just sign Chris Matthews. He can come in and have four 100-yard games. I've heard a lot of that. I don't think they want to sign Welker under any scenario. That's just my reason. Well, that's fine. But Brady, and I believe him on this one, he argued the fact where everyone says they'll just plug someone in

and he'll be great, that he did say what you just said, that this absolutely limits what we do on offense. And two weeks in a row, you've lost major contributor. You could see it against the Giants. They had a great first quarter. The second Edelman went down. They struggled the rest of the game. The part of me that's a throne of ease type of reaction to this news is thinking, well, if you get him back for the playoffs, that's all that really matters for the Patriots.

And Edelman of all people has such a great chemistry and history with Brady. If he really came back fairly healthy, you still get him for the game that matter. You're right. It actually all works out perfectly for you, actually. He'll come dance onto the field in the AFC divisional playoffs. They'll be like 166 yards off 10 catches. It's like, hey, Shully, it's like the David Ortiz game. I don't know. Just like, you know, some Boston folk hero stuff, you know.

Oh, there's Edelman. He's a wicked pisser. That's what he says. Dan, showing no respect for the city that educated him. I just need to say this, by the way. I need to say this. Just to get off a quick tangent, David Ortiz, I believe, is announcing his retirement after this season?

Really? All you Red So. I didn't even know that. Come on. Great. Be better than that. You're Red Sox fan. All the Red Sox fans that went nuts on Derek Jeter for a year getting gifts during his retirement tour.

Big Poppy is going to do the same thing. So I don't want to hear you being like, oh, this is so cool that he got a harp from the San Diego Padres. When you were killing Jeter for the same thing. Wait, you're saying that, you know, fans could not be consistent with who they hate and like. I'm crazy I just want to be the first one You heard it here first I'm going to call you on your BS

I liked that he's getting a harp Yeah that's great There was weird stuff given to It was actually the Mariano Rivera And Jeter Retirement Laps where They ran out of the things to give him So like he would go to L.A

and they would give him fishing rods Or he would get like an ice sculpture And it was like what am I going to do this? Quickly handed to an intern and shuffle To like a back room He'll never see it again I mean since you brought it up though The difference is Big Poppy is retiring while he's still hitting 35 home runs a year.

Derek Jeter's walking around with a piano on his back, barely able to play. Well, you know, synthetic drugs will do that. Wow. Whatever gets it done. Have you ever looked into the history of this final tour thing? Dr. Jay is the first one I remember. Really? Yeah.

That's good. I like to see. There is none of that in the NFL, though, really. Well, I remember Ozzie Newsom, when he left his final season in Cleveland, because he made so many consecutive games in a row that it wasn't. that at one point there was a game where someone it was an opposing team and handed him a giant portrait of him made up

a handcrafted painted portrait of him and half you wouldn't see that at all today The first one I remember being annoyed by was Karate, this shows my age is Cream Abdul-Jabbar That one seemed to go forever and he would get like piano. Karim deserved it though Right no he deserved it but I was just like okay it's an 82 game season it's a mess

But yes to go back to the throne of ease everything's going to be fine is what you're saying I'm sure it will be Good for you moving forward It is not a good situation for Rob Ryan, who is now unemployed, the Norland Saints, fresh off a waxing by the Redskins and a 47-14 blowout loss last week decided to dismiss their defensive coordinator, coordinator.

So Rob Ryan, out of work, Dennis Allen, who was a senior defensive assistant on the staff prior to this announcement, is now the defensive coordinator, Sean Payton, who I feel like he likes to play games with the media, because this leaked out early Monday and he made a point in his press conference to say that nothing was going to happen that his staff was intact that maybe... I wish you weren't a liar.

Thank you. GM, Mickey Loomis, maybe would take a look at the staff, but he had no changes on the horizon. And then three hours later, Rob Ryan, out of a job. Good job, Sean Peyton. I think we finally have our answer to the question, what does Rob Ryan have to do to get fired?

Make Kirk Cousins look like Johnny United. Yeah. I think there were, was a stat out there that he became or this they became the first team to ever allow three consecutive quarterbacks to pass for over 300 yards and four touchdowns without an interception like the one of the more gruesome statue ever here landed against the defense we wrote a making the leap piece on rob brian when season before he actually had a good year with the saints and then the wheels completely fell off but looking at every one of his defenses when

he's been the coordinator outside of one or two seasons they have been a disaster consistently. Right. Ranking in the low 20, high 20s of being the worst in terms of yardage and points given up year after year. Sean Payton's a tough guy to work for, though. He hasn't gotten along with his coordinators, every single one of them. Spagnolo, Greg Williams, Gary Gibbs.

People probably forget ever existed. They've all struggled. Peyton, I believe, is the one picking the players, which aren't very good. Mickey Loomis has the GM title. They have a scouting department. Mickey Loomis is running two major businesses, including an NBA team. I don't think he's going out there on the road beating the bushes. So Sean Payton deserves the most for this.

I will say you can't say Peyton wasn't patient with Rob Ryan. They could have easily canned him after last year when they were wretched. But how many head coaches are bickering with their coordinators on the sidelines on a regular basis? So instead he hired. Bill Parcells used to do stuff like that all the time. It's happened with Ryan's before. Right. But you could say that's his fault then.

Why bring in a replacement in Dennis Allen who was on the St. staff, I believe, for four or five years last decade, have them sitting there waiting so how you can replace them, maybe just, you know, make the change, making a decision. It's fair. Saints fans love Rob Ryan. I know we want to move on. Saints fans love Rob Ryan. Jeff Duncan did a tweet about it, basically.

Like, no coaches connected with the city more than that and showed this, like, candle that was being sold called St. Ryan. And it was, you know, it was like in the French quarter that they're selling the St. Ryan candles. He goes out boozing with the things. Right, exactly. The year when they were good. Yeah.

Right. It's true. He got plenty of time to do that. The year when they were good on defense with Ryan, that was a lot of fun because he was popping up over and over again, buying entire bars full of people like rounds of shots and enjoying the life. I think it might be good for Rob to get out of there. And Rex, by the way, of course, was asked about it on Tuesday and said he did not rule

out the idea of some type of brother, brotherly reunion on his own staff. That should turn the bills around. Yeah. The New York Giants will not have Victor Cruz this season. He is undergoing season ending calf surgery. So that Torin-Peteller tendon suffered last fall. They are saying it's not connected, but obviously there's something going on with his lower body. And that was a catastrophic injury last year.

No Cruz, so we will not get to see the ODB cruise mashup this season. More Loch Ness Monster News from the Giants. Yes. And finally, the NFL. has acknowledged an officiating error that cost the Ravens a game on Sunday. The final play against the Jaguars, the one that led to a face mask penalty and the opportunity to kick a long field goal, which Jacksonville converted, should have never happened because Luke Jokal had not gotten set at the line

that should have been a false start and a 10-second runoff. No timeouts for the Jaguars means the game should have ended because of that 10-second runoff. The NFL blew it, unfortunately. I'm sure the Ravens aren't very thrilled that that happened. Not a banner year for NFL officiating, and I think they need to go back to the drawing board on the rules. A lot of, on what rules? Well, starting with the catch roll, which is the worst role in the history of sports.

I think this should be able to be reviewed, too. If you can say after the game that a call like this changes the game, and for all the bad calls this year, this is the only one we know for certain directly change the win and loss in the standings, they should be able to review that. if they're able to say it the next day. What, a couple days later? No, they should be able to review it at the moment. Yeah.

Why are they not in? Get it right. It's weird the breakdown in what can be reviewed and what can't. Like the safety that the Cardinals should have had, you can't review the fact that Russell Wilson didn't make the ball back to the line of scrimmage. Right. Which is odd. Of course it should be reviewed.

Yeah. I mean, do you think that down the road this should be handled differently? Should this be a Ravens victory? Not if it's like 24 hours later. I think they need to review all plays at the time, then. If it's something that's so obvious in terms of a pre-snap penalty, like, why can't that be reviewed? Why can't a spotter upstairs say, no, I want to take a look.

I think there maybe was movement, because if that was someone's job, that that's all they're doing from upstairs is officiating reviews, I think they would have been able to spot that. What if this happens in the AFC championship game? Right. And the wrong team goes. to the Super Bowl, there is going to be an absolute international melt-in.

Right, that's true. If this game was bigger, this story would be way big. All it does is keep the Jaguars' AFC South Hopes alive for which no one cares about. But if it was a bigger game, it'd be huge. You know who cares about the Jaguars still being alive for playoff contention? NFL Network does, because let's talk about Thursday night football. That's what's happening in the news, by the way. The Tennessee Titans and Jacksonville Jaguars face off.

the first game of Week 11, as Greg corrected me, very astute by Greg, my mathematician double checker, although that's not really math. Well, neither is the other quality control. Quality control, yes. You're like the guy on the sideline that Herm Edwards. Telling you how many teams are on a buy is not really math either. Well, it's a number. It includes numbers, yes.

Content provider. So this is a game you would think between a 2 and 7 Tennessee team and a 3 and 6. Jaguars team that would mean nothing and not worth watching. But they're both in the AFC South where, yes, the Houston Texans and Indianapolis Colts are tied at four and five. So it amounts to really a loser goes home match for at least Tennessee who can't go two and eight. But Jacksonville can be right in the mix near the top of the division with the win.

Mark, your thoughts. I find it odd. Not too many thoughts, though. No, I mean, the league got lucky that you've got two very interesting quarterbacks to watch. That's the centerpiece of this game. because for the second year in a row, you put a Jaguars Titans tilt on very late in the year, very dubious.

But this is interesting. Because you've got to get each team a national game. That's the new rule. Yeah, but you could have done this in week three. Point is, this game is still interesting because of the quarterbacks and because of the fact that both teams are alive in the worst division in football. Rosethal pulls back the curtain in a big spot. Plus, they don't want to stick to pull back even more.

They don't want to stick these teams on CVS. You know, not to. That may have more to do with it. I love watching Blake Bordels each week, but he's got to play better. He's not played well over the last month. This breakout season that he had that he's having is better statistically than it really is.

Last week, he could have had more turnovers over the last week that have been dropped by the other team. I mean, the play before the final face mask that they won the game on, he just threw it up for grabs and the Ravens dropped it. More turnovers than Betty Crocker. That's what you were looking for. Thanks. I want to echo Marjor.

on this. Let him develop. Let him develop. I mean, he had an awful rookie season. He's made huge strides in here. You're right. He's not helping his team win, but he's making huge strides. He's a much better quarterback than he. He's moving the offense. That's fair. And he's, I think, has more wow plays per game than maybe any quarterback in the NFL right now. I really believe that. In terms of just spins away where then he throws it down the field and his running ability and he has got a huge arm

and he goes for tough passes. He is about as flashy as it gets. That's why I find him more fun to watch than Marriota who's more of a consistent sort of paint by numbers. Well, you're right because Bortles is third in the league and passes of 20 plus yards. I mean, he's not afraid to fire it downfield and you're absolutely

right, Wes. Let's give these guys time. Him and Marriota may be on a different track in terms of their development. We're seeing things from Marietta that Bortles does not do, but three or four years from now this division will be completely different because of these two players. All right, let's go around the table and pick this game.

Mark, I'll start with you. Score and winner. Where is this game being played? Jacksonville. I'm going to go Jaguars in a very, very tight game, 20 to 19. Wes? I'm going to go Jaguars, 27, Titans, 20. All right.

Listen, nobody goes into Everbank Field. It comes out alive in prime time. So I'm going with Jacksonville Jaguars as well. 24-17. I'm picking the Jaguars because that's what I want to happen. I want them to only be one half game back of the first place team. They only play one winning team the whole rest of the season, and that's the Falcons.

It's a pretty bad winning team, so maybe the Jaguars can get on a run. Titans got some short shrift in this preview, but it's their own fault. You've got to stop playing Harry Douglas, Antonio Andrews, and Anthony Fasano as Mario's first three targets. And I perhaps should have been more clear about when going around the table,

I didn't think that you were going to pick, Greg, because, you know, quit the picks. Well, it's weird you say that. You seem to have a problem with the fact that I picked last week's game. It came up, and I've done it every single week. So it took you 10 weeks to notice. I have a little problem with the host of the show not being tuned in to what's been going on.

Where is that burlap sack right now? So it's still behind my monitor? We'll find it. All right. All right. So that's it for the Thursday night preview. Give us a good show, AFC South. We beg of you.

And now we move on to a segment we like to call Goales to Fantasia. And essentially, what this is is that we go around the table and all four of us go around the table and we present a scenario. And then we give the rest of the group an opportunity to react. What would they do in that situation? that those are the basic rules or general explanation of what is.

Qualas tu Fantasia, which loosely translates to what's your fancy. So, Mark, let's get going. Okay, this doesn't have to do at all with football, correct? When you do it, it tends not to. Do you want to save your non-football one? No, go for it. I have two non-football ones. Scenario one with the music.

This could be going anywhere. From now until the end, you and your family want for nothing. You all enjoy excellent health, vibrant friendships, endless money and no need to work a day job unless you want to. You can travel the world at will with the requisite peace, quiet in time to accomplish a laundry list of personal goals from now until old age when you pass away peacefully with many friends and family at your side. This is Mark's dream.

One caveat. At 11.06 p.m. night. A small elven-like figure with black eyes appears by your side to take a three-by-three millimeter chunk of flesh out of your body with his razor-like. What the hell? Or... What? Scenario 2.

You live for the next five years as a lauded international superstar who brings peace to the world, but every day is a quiet torment because you have a 45-inch parasite. inside of you slowly eating your innards leading to your death on a November 17, 2020 flight to Moscow. This really does speak to perhaps where you are in life right now, Mark. There is a lot of darkness in this. Can one survive? I just made these up. But it's showing your inner, inner Sessler, your id.

Can one survive with a three by three millimeter chunk of flesh being taken out of once by the body? Every day? Well, here's the thing. You picked a location, so it's different each stuff. My heel? But what's a three, a millimeter is nothing, right? It's very small. But every day.

I'm still, to me, it's... I'm taking the elven creature. Yeah, it's clear. The elven creature, millimeters, they're small. The second option sounds terrible. I wouldn't even really want to be a superhero. Plus, you know, it's got a... Not only can you not enjoy being the superhero

because you have the thing inside your body, you're going to die in five years. You bring peace to the world. But only for five years, because once you're dead, that everything can revert back. That's true. I didn't know you bring peace to the world. Oh, that's a big.

The whole thing. I would assume it's lasting peace for a long time. No, like no ISIS and everyone's getting along. Wow, that's different. You give the world a reset button, but you'd be gone because of this massive form inside of you. This is very similar. You often have these. One is riches and ease, and then the other is like saving the world.

and then dying. There's always death involved as well. Well, there will be in any scenario. Well, we're all going to die. That's true. This is going to seem cynical about the world, but number two doesn't work as an option for me because I think we would regress as humanity

after I was gone, essentially, if I'm putting myself in the shoes of this character. I don't like to get a goblin to be biting into my flesh every night, but I'm going to go with that. That's fair. I'm going with Choice A, and I'll say, my reasoning for the theology podcast. Yeah, I think choice eight.

About that for a teaser. I'm kind of a night person, so like the 11.06 thing doesn't bother me. It's not that bad. All right, Wes, you're up. I'll have one to do with football here. Okay, good. You're the head coach. You can talk yourself into suddenly fixed coach killer, Jay Cutler,

as your franchise quarterback devoting $20 million a year and compromising the rest of your roster in NFL. How much? 20 million a year or whatever he gets paid a year. Okay. But you're in NFL purgatory because Jay Cutler's. Well, you're going to talk yourself into it. Or sign Kirk Cousins in 2016 and hope for a Ryan Fitzpatrick-like patch for a contender while you draft a future quarterback.

That is easy for me. Because I like, like you, West, I like Kirk Cousins more than some others. And I think Kirk Cousins is a more attractive target than Cutler on the free-age market. I'd rather have Kirk Cousins at the same sound. The timing of the Kirk Cousins after his best game, it makes him look more attractive, but from a more big picture, he hasn't been very dynamic this season at all. He's fourth than the NFL and completion percentage. He's a higher QBR than Cam Newton and Russell Wilson.

He, and that's without Deshaun Jackson and with a beat-up offensive. And the point you make is that you still can keep an eye towards the future for another quarter. Absolutely. I think you can do that with Cutler. I don't accept that you have to. I am as a. GM and a coach, I'll pay Cutler the money and I'll still draft the quarterback high because that's just how I'm going to roll.

You need a quarterback. The key to this is your- You can't change my mental process. The key to this is you're the head coach, which you know, Jay Cutler will get you fired. Exactly. Well, I'm not accepting that. If you're saying it gets you fired, it's not really even an option. You're just using it.

You got to include that in the quality-suf. Yeah, you're using it as a point. Any coach should know that. Right. I thought you were more wise than that. I, first of all. Jay Culler's not getting anybody fired this year, by the way. Can we talk about the present?

He's getting someone hired. Second of all. Right. And in 2013, he wasn't getting harassment fired. It took a year. Kirk Cousins, if he continues at this rate, the Redskins fans are convinced he's going to get $15 million a year because the Redskins are suckers.

And so it's really not that big of a difference anyways. I think they're both bridge quarterbacks. I'd give Cutler the extra money. I'm with Greg. Crazy talk. Moving to our next. You are Aaron Rogers. You have gone from the recognized greatest quarterback alive

to the focus of widespread national scrutiny as the Packers' offense has stumbled during an embarrassing losing streak. One day, a small creature approaches you, maybe a goblin, a diminutive wizard, perhaps, a magical gnome. It presents you with an option. He can instantly heal Jordy Nelson's ACL

and allow the Packers to access a little-known league loophole that restores Nelson to the active roster effective immediately. The Wizard suggests, but does not promise that Nelson's return will spark a Super Bowl run for the ages. In return for this good fortune, the Wizard says that Olivia Munn, Rogers'

girlfriend, will be blackballed from Hollywood and never work again. No explanation will ever be given a truly crushing blow to a good woman. Only you, Aaron Rogers, would know why and why this secret will never get out. What do you do? Or should I say,

Qualest your fantasia? Well, this one's easy. You get Jordy Nelson. Why is Hollywood so great? She can still act on Broadway. If she really loves acting. No, she's blackballed from acting. No, you said Hollywood.

Blackballed from Hollywood. All right. She can still act. Do you want to bang me on a loophole here? She can still act at the local theater. The way you were in the question, it was more about her superstardom and image. I think she as a person might be more whole by acting on Broadway or at her local theater. You're deciding for her what her ambitions should be.

I'm deciding because I'm Aaron Rogers and I get to make the choice. I want Jordy Nelson. And if this woman is worth, if she's worth what I think he is, well, I think she is, she's going to be okay with not being some Hollywood super show. That's nonsense. She, that's her career. That's what she finds, that's her version of playing football. This is right up your alley too, Greg.

She finds fulfillment. Once again, another man in this room is telling another woman how to think. Thank you. You know what, Greg? Thank you. That's what West you're doing here. You're putting Aaron Rogers. ahead of Olivia Munn as a person.

No, I would think that if I was dating someone and it was just about the Hollywood of it, I mean, if she's into acting, she'd be okay with Broadway. Well, of course, well, the Broadway thing, she said she's not acting. She's not acting. She's out of the acting game.

She can't get a job. I'm still going with Jordy Nelson. I would not because it's one season. And there is no loophole that would allow Jordy Nelson back in. But let's say there was. Still, I don't think it works in any situation where you're a human being

and you pull the lever to essentially alter or completely leverage someone else's lifestyle, career, anything, and then just have that be on your conscience. I couldn't live with it. Exactly. It's easy. You go with keeping MUNN in business

because you're Aaron Rogers and you believe you can still take this team to the Super Bowl without Jordy Nelson because you're the best quarterback in the league. You got that sort of confidence. Wes, have you come around with this logic? No. You still believe.

Olivia Munn. I think if she was worth selling jewelry at the convention center. If she was worth being with me, she wouldn't care that much about her image. It's about me. It's her career, though. It's her career, though. It's her career about that. Someone told me I couldn't write about football anymore.

I'd have to write about garbage trucks. I'd be fine with that. Okay. Still writing. You're now on the garbage truck feet for around the NFL. My son watches garbage truck videos on YouTube. He's not alone. All right.

That's it. Greg. All right. Let's get going. You have a brother. who's dying. Oh, that happens, though. He's going to die.

He has a rare disease that his emotional stability is connected to his physical health. Okay. And almost all of his emotions are tied to the fortunes of his favorite NFL team. But you have a chance to just erase his memory of who his favorite team is. So his health, his life, and his fortunes are. tied to whichever team that you choose for him for the rest of the year, but you only have two options weirdly. I don't know why.

Who knows why? You only have two options, and those two teams are the Denver Broncos and the Cincinnati Bengals. Whichever one makes it further in the playoffs is going to give him a better chance to live. Wow. Qualest to Fantasia. I would say it would never be too soon, Greg, to say goodbye to your brother in this scenario. What does that even mean? Because the poor kids banged either way.

No. I'm saying, look, medical science, it's a crazy world. You're looking for the best chance to keep him alive. And if you choose the team that goes further in the playoffs, that's really going to help his chance, probably going to keep him alive. If you make the wrong choice, then you're playing with fire. Bangles.

Yeah, Bengals. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I'm surprised we all agree, but I feel like the Broncos are in a really tough spot without a quarterback potentially. Without a running game, without an offensive line. Yeah, I mean, I never believed it. Storic defense, great defense.

Bengals are winning to playoff game. It's a quarterback league. Not about going with the Panthers as well. I'm not backing any team without a quarterback. What if they both go down in the AFC divisional round? Is it what game happened earlier? Kid Crokes. Right?

Look, I mean, I'm just putting in a lot of pressure. That's why you've got to make the ultimate choice. You are. I'm willing to give up West of us to save your brother. Oh. It's kind. It's not my brother. It's your brother.

Oh. That almost makes up for what you did to Olivia Munn, Wes. She's still alive. She's still fine. It's your brother. Part of her is you have to choose. And the tricky thing for Wes is he actually has to choose which brother. Hey, Olivia Munn, I wanted to play short stuff for the Reds.

It didn't happen. Deal with it. Sorry. I don't feel that badly for her. It's not the end of the world. There are people dying because you wouldn't choose world peace. that is fair that is that is so unfair to throw that in my face extremely fair i thought that out all right go ahead mark one more time around the horn all right scenario one

you are frozen cryogenically in return to consciousness in the year 22 22 in your current state you haven't aged a day and all your family and friends are long gone but you are given proof that the people close to you live joyous lives and remembered you until the end and now you fend for yourself in 2222. Or... Wait, what's the upshot of that? All right, go ahead. Well, at NFL honors, or at NFL honors,

you are kidnapped off the red carpet by ISIS. Taken along with Kate Winslet, the two of you will remain in their grips for the rest of your life working as data entry specialists and a war-torn mountain compound. You will never speak to anyone you know again. Oh, I'm definitely taking the time travel into the future one where people I know and love are happy.

But they're all dead, right? Don't you say they were long gone? It's 22, 22. Oh, I thought you said 2022. No, but they've lived here. Either way, I don't get to see my family and friends ever again. Right. Are you suggesting, though, that the relationship with Winslet could turn out to be more than just friends?

That's up to you. I'm not in charge of that. Okay. I could come back in 22, 22, and have a future better, Kate Winsley. Yeah, I'm going to have to go. But if I'm living on a mountain compound of some kind doing office work with Kate Winslet, I don't have any access to my friends or family either, right? Right.

No, I say you will never speak to anyone you know ever again. So there's on some level dead that way, too. So either both these scenarios, all my family and friends are dead. And you have to deal with ISIS. The only problem is that, you know, you're 22, 22. Who knows what's happening? I'll roll the dice there. You could actually live to 180.

You're counting on us to bank on this small upside of a romantic relationship with Kate Witt. That's the only thing that's even remotely better. Well, you probably have a better shot than anyone else around her. I think it, yeah, I think that's safe to say. Maybe if you would have made it like Milana Vintraub or someone different. I don't know, Winslet doesn't really. All right. Shake the peaches off my tree, you know.

To each is home. Wes, you're up. You can keep plugging away, grinding through the end of the regular. season, January coaching change season, the Super Bowl, as you do every year. Basically, you're going to keep doing your job like you do every year. Or, much like Rob Ryan, your season is over. You're not fired, but your season is over. You can fade into a pristine forest land for the next three months and return at the combine

with this jumbo-sized caveat. You have to write every making the leap, every roster reset, and every production. Rejected starters assignment with the other three people in this studio take the entirety of May, June, and July off for vacation. I like this one. This one is directed at one person in this room. It's written like one person in this room, too. Mark, we'll give this one to you first. Go ahead.

It's attractive. It's real attractive. But I think what would stress me out, well, what would stress me out, though, is probably over the dwindling. months between now in the combine, as each week chips away. You realize that what's next is a disaster. And so I would stay with the steady flow of work, among others, over the very attractive scenario of a three-month vacation. First time you've ever turned down a pristine forest land. Right. The forest land is what ruins it for me. I think I would take. That does nothing for me. You can have your own version of my version. My version is, yeah, my couch. You know, go to the beach a

little bit. If that's the case, now you said these three guys, you know, the three people in this room are on vacation for three months, but do I have Connor and Kevin helping me with news? That's a big factor. You have Connor and Kelvin helping with the news, but you have to write every one of these features. I will take the vacation. You're going to take the rest of the season off. If there's no social problem with it, essentially in this scenario, everyone is totally cool with that there's no downside. Everyone's on board. Then yes. We can arrange this with Shadow League figures tomorrow. I would take

the time off would be great. I would work on this during the time off. I'd be at my own pace or whatever and I think I could bang those out fairly. It'd be okay. If I may, Wes, can I add one minor caveat? You would have to go to handsome Hank's 9.30 a.m. meeting.

Oh, that ruins it. Just once that ruins it. One thing about making the leap, like I could write them all now because my accuracy rate would be as accurate as they are when we sit there in the summer thinking we know who Christine Michael is. You never answered it, Dan. Oh, I would work.

I would not take the vacation because I think I would be staring at the calendar knowing that this break was ending and I was going to get banged hard. I would do like one a day while I was on my day. I just really wanted to take the entirety of the year of July off while one of you guys does everything. All right, two more. Here we go. Your NFL rules are Dean Blande.

No, I didn't really have one. I wanted to come up with one for him, but I couldn't come up with one. I just wanted to say that. Here we go. You are Patriots owner Robert Kraft. One day next March, Tom Brady walks into your office and reveals to you that he does indeed plan to play until age 47. He confides that through sports science, healthy eating, and quote, secret Giselle-related reasons, close quote, he can guarantee he will play in an all-pro level for the balance.

of his incredible career. But there's one catch. Brady demands that Kraft rename the Patriots the New England Tom Brady's. Furthermore, Brady demands that Gillette Stadium be renamed man. Tom Brady is just two's perfect. Am I right?

Stadium. Craft or his successor can reverse the changes after Brady's career is through. What is your fantasy? Well, what's the other option? Wait. Keeping the name of the team.

The same. Do it. As long as I can change you back. You would become a laughing stock of the league. Laughing stock on my way to 10 Lombardi Trophy. I think the New England Tom Brady sounds like a terrific idea. It doesn't even sound like a downside. I'd be in favor of it.

Wait, does he play? Is there genuine proof that he'd play at this level for that entire time? He promises it that he's perfected the art of professional athletic. Look, be seen 30 years from now, 50 years from now is an absolute revolutionary. We've got the Cleveland Browns. I mean, I didn't see Paul Brown. round back there against the pass rush throwing for 40 touchdowns. I'm down with the New England Brady's.

Let's do it tomorrow. Who cares if people are making fun of your name change when you've already had to go through deflake gate? So you guys are stay with, man, Tom Brady is just too perfect. Am I right? He is too perfect. Sure. There's like 12 stadiums that have worse names already. Here's why I don't think you would do it as Bob Kraft.

That's true. I think I said one earlier, Everbank Field. I think the owners have egos. and they would not be comfortable with the player getting that much glory. His stadium. Right, but you said I'm Robert Kraft. Right. Yeah, I'm fine with it.

Right. All right. So we're all okay with it. Oh, it sounds fantastic. All right. Greg, finish us off. More Tom Brady, please. All right.

The addition of multiple Los Angeles organizations to the NFL has thrown Roger Goodell and in the league for a loop. They're going to let the entire league redraft. in the off season, just to mix it up. Capitalize on Fate Fantasy Football. It's tied into Draft Kings as well. You have five-year contracts in this new league. They're starting over. At the end of those contracts, no matter what,

the people become free agents again. You're probably going to lose that player. You have the seventh pick in the draft. Here's who's available when you pick at quarterback, the best quarterback's on the board. Derek Carr, Matt Ryan, and Cam Newton. Who do you take?

You just get him for five years only. Let's throw Philip Rivers in there, too. He's available. That's who I meant to say. Five years only, starting next season, you get one of those quarterbacks. Someone took Marcus Mariotto already. He's off the board.

Wow. These are your best options. That's a bullboot. These are your best options. I don't know what pick it is. These are your best options. I'll go first this time. I think I would take Cam Newton.

I know he's a little bit older than these other guys but he still will be in his prime during those five years. And then I would be the GM that finally put some real gifted playmakers around him. Bang, we're winning some Mombardes. He's the face of your franchise. You know, I know you had a problem with Bannergate. All of that comes to. Yes.

And that shows that despite some issues with Cam Newton and his antics, his play carries above all. And he is a great marketable player. I will not deny that. That's a big part of a running football team. Rivers Ryan, Carr, Cam. They're all there. I'd go Cam too very tight over

Derek Carr but for much of what Dan said I think we can we've seen that Cam Newton can be a franchise quarterback and he's entering the prime of his career five years then they're free agents at the end that's it give me Philip Rivers

Wow he's got a lot of kids at home What city are you? It's 35 I want to take Cam it would be cool but I think you're a running and defense team if you got cam i don't think you're winning with a passing attacking cam we we'll take rivers for what he does at the line of scrimmage pre-snap and what he does without you take away a wide receiver and an offensive lineman every week every quarter he still puts up number

quarterbacks play until they're 40 now they're playing well later in their career now he's 33 years i take rivers five i'm going cam i mean i could draft a quarterback that's i went michael car but maybe i shouldn't have thrown cam in car was tempting to I would actually have Matt Ryan last on this list. This has been a little bit of a La Reveal Magnifico year from Matt Ryan to me in that we know who Matt Ryan is. And he's very good. I think we have known that he's very good.

He's very good, but he's not great. You want the higher upside. I don't want a quarterback when he's not even the best player on his team. That's revealing to me. Julio Jones has always been better than Matt Ryan. So there you go. Nice discussion. That is that caps another game of,

What is your fantasy? Hit us up with your thoughts on the game, of course, at Around the NFL and all of our personal Twitter accounts. That is it for Tuesday's edition of the Around the NFL podcast. We will be back on late Thursday with our Thursday night recap of that AFC South Showdown that we talked about, Titans Jags, and then we will preview all the games in Week 11, big show with a special guest returning after a couple of months away.

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