NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Romo reaction & free agency roundup
Episode Date: March 9, 2017A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Gregg Rosenthal & Marc Sessler– discuss the best possible fits for Tony Romo after it was reported the Cowboys would release the veteran ...QB on Thursday. Then, the heroes break down all the latest free agency moves and rumors from around the league including wide receiver Brandon Marshall signing with the Giants, and the Bills agreeing to a restructured contract with quarterback Tyrod Taylor.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast.
My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by a room filled with heroes.
Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling and Greg.
Rosethol, what's up, boys?
Hey, Dan.
Hey, yeah.
Free agency.
It's on, and Greg hits off the hook.
Oh, it's a frenzy.
Things are getting crazy here in the building.
I don't know.
Nothing's been crazy at all.
I was trying to match his energy.
There's been a lot going on.
It's been busy.
I mean, yesterday was kind of a...
Quarterbacks jumping around.
Yesterday, Tuesday was a bit of a dud when the tampering period officially began.
But today is kind of what you expected.
A lot of names out there.
And, of course, the big one is the addition to the top.
101 of
Greg Rosenthal
and Chris Wessling's top 101 free agency
we have a new number one
tease there you can maybe guess who it is
and we'll get to that in a couple
seconds I mean Gino is 68
just to be clear not the new number one
looking more and more like the Jets opening
day starter it could happen
it could happen I'm ready for it
and I'm ready to scam for Sam with Gino
that's the only way it would be okay
by the way speaking of
former Jets
Get your Dan Hanzas
Get your Dan Hanzas
Oh, it could wait
until we get to it in the news now
The sandwich props
The sandwich props, we are
already flying over at
Hansus Corp because Brandon Marshall
signed with the Giants
And guess, you know what they call that?
A clean sweep.
I call it hitting for the cycle.
Strike three, you're out.
The cycle, baby.
We call it...
Play ball!
Dan's annual sandwich prop win
that he makes a much bigger deal
than anyone else has ever made a sandwich prep win.
You know what it's funny?
It's like right after it happened,
I got tons of tweets.
And like several of the tweets,
including our own Kevin Patcher was like,
Dan's going to be like insufferable like this.
Like, man, Dan is going to be such a total asshole about this.
It's like, yeah, I guess that's kind of part of my personality.
I can't help it.
Don't try to change me.
I'm excited.
That's a big.
score for sandwiches mark and thank you you're one of them uh sit you could put this on
sydney but you said brandon marshall would not be going to the giants so back funny because
in mark's article on landing spots he said he was going to the james i you know what it's the one
bet i would not have taken but i am actually very thankful i missed that episode based on what i'm
hearing now well i'm just happy we're only two two three minutes into this show and we're already
halfway to the legislated two
Dan Hansis singing sound drops
of the show. About Dan.
Every two, about the show. To every show.
I introduced this rule last time, and it's going to happen.
Don't be jealous that Young Monday never recorded a hit.
I don't think jealousy would be the word the three of us would use.
You could have stopped that sentence with recorded a hit.
What?
That's it. Young Monday never recorded a hit.
Oh.
Oh, jealousy is not a good look, Greg, on you.
He's not going to write a song about you now.
Yikes.
Ugly, ugly, ugly.
Today is, yeah, so I'm in a good mood because of that.
I'm flying.
Nothing can bring me down.
But I'll tell you.
Even the state of the New York Jets in 2007.
Can't do it.
They can try.
They can't do it.
They can't hurt me.
But this is a big show.
Sponsored, of course, by Mr. Flames' economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands.
Mr. F.
Today is our, let's call it the Free Agent Spectacular News Edition.
This is all news.
We have so much news to get to.
That's what today's show is about.
So we're going to go all through every notable tidbit.
And something tells me, as we record this north of 2 p.m. Pacific time here in California,
that as the show goes along, we could have some breaking news coming in.
It's a guess.
but that's the way things are moving.
Things are moving fast.
So we're going to go through all the news across the league.
We might even bring back 8 o'clock to light.
There's so much news that we've got to have a speed round.
There's no other way to do it.
So let's get to it and to do that.
We do say formally hello to New Money Behind the Glass.
Hey, guys.
I'm new money again.
Not Mark anymore.
Yeah.
What was it like being Mark for 100 minutes or so?
It was great.
It's good to be back, you know, home.
There's a lot going on in Mark's mind.
so it's going to kind of have a break from that for a minute.
Can you help us with that?
What is going on in Mark's mind?
There's a lot of alien, like, philosophy.
I'll have to actually listen to this episode.
I'd like to know more about alien philosophy.
All right, let's start doing some news.
Beachbody.
Yes, teased it a few minutes ago.
There is a new number one on the,
NFL got dot com top 101 free agents and it is Tony Romo because NFL network insider
Ian Rappaport and NFL network's Jane Slater reported that the Cowboys have told Romo
that he will be released according to a source informed of the decision when the new league
year starts on Thursday at 4 p.m. Eastern that's less than 24 hours from now
Romo will be free to sign with any team he chooses and now what team will that be
everyone is connecting the dots to two teams right now, Chris Wesleying,
the Denver Broncos and the Houston, Texas.
And rap sheet said Wednesday that both those teams are, quote,
very interested suitors.
Your thoughts?
Well, we know the Broncos have basically come out and said it.
If he will play for a discount, we want him.
Texans have been very quiet about it.
And until Ian reported this,
there really wasn't much connecting Romo to the Texans
beyond Romo's desire to play for the Texans,
which may be second to the Broncos on his list.
But the way the Texans have operated their quarterback room
over the past few years,
you wonder if they even realize how desperately they need Tony Romo.
This idea that they've already paid for Brock Osweiler
so they can't go get Romo is laughable.
Give me a break.
You cannot win with Brock Osweiler.
There's no reason while you have a roster set up to win
for you to say, no, we don't need Tony Romo.
We already made a mistake at quarterback.
Go win their division.
Get Tony Romo.
And Greg, as you said, you tweeted earlier today,
that if they do indeed go hot after Romo, the Texans,
it is basically a huge admission of failure
by both Rick Smith, the entire Houston franchise with Brock Oswald.
And I think that's healthy for teams to admit a mistake quickly.
And I agree, Wes, that you should be able to move on.
The difference between these two teams,
the Broncos have more cap room.
and it's not like you can save money by getting rid of Brock.
You're paying him that money.
And I don't know if there's a scenario, for instance,
where you can sign Tony Romo and A.J. Bouye.
So you're starting to get into a circumstance
because they're up, you know, closer to the cap.
They got about $20 million in space.
Who's got more cornerback depth than the Houston Tech?
Right. So maybe you just make that decision.
But listening to Ian,
I got the sense at least in its early,
and teams are going to put this stuff out there,
that they're not going to break the bank for him either.
I think it's going to have to be some sort of incentive,
really heavy deal where he has to stay healthy.
He has to produce.
And I don't know if he's going to get paid like a star in either place.
I don't know if either one of these places wants to pay them.
I think two things matter.
We can say, and I agree with you, West,
that they'd be crazy if they could to not get Tony Romo
and essentially move on from Brock Oswald,
which they might actually do if Tom Savage were to beat him out in camp.
he would sit on the best. Top Savage is real.
But hold on, you can't just discount the fact that their owner has not exactly come out and said we want Tony Romo.
If anything, Bob McNair has talked about having to make it work with the players they have.
We can say it's crazy, but the guy running the organization with his own money on the line who has 16 million this year and 18 million next year tied up in Osweiler might want to say,
I want to see another year out of this.
I'm not saying that's right football-wise.
He's not a football guy.
They already admitted their mistake
when in the heat of a playoff race,
they benched him for Tom Savage.
The coaches did.
The owner did not.
And barring anything crazy,
he's off the team after this year.
No guaranteed money after this year.
But it is crazy.
He's a great guy to work for
because Rick Smith,
by going after Romo at all,
they're admitting they totally screw this up.
And in almost any organization,
an owner would not allow that GM to
either keep his job or go after another quarterback.
Like, he's keeping the guy and letting Rick Smith do that.
Usually you would have fired Rick Smith, or you would say, look, you blew it.
Why should I trust you?
When you talk about, like, good owners, owners that'll do anything to win, I think this is sort of proof
that he just has to swallow this big loss and go after him.
And yet, why, I don't buy the whole thing that they have a better offensive line.
So, you know, Tony Romo should want to go there.
The Broncos are a better route to a Super Bowl.
But Romo, no, they're not.
Now, how are they?
Great championship defense.
The AFC South is so much of an easier.
The ABC West is probably the hardest division in football,
and the AFC South is perennially the easier.
I know that the Texans won a playoff game last year,
but I think they're a lot closer to being where they were ranked in football
outsiders in terms of their quality,
in terms of just a 25th best team in the league,
then they really are a Super Bowl.
Their defense gave the Patriots Fits.
They finished number one in the NFL,
and their offense is laden with talent that was unused by all.
Osweiler. Moving on. Common sense prevails in western New York. The Buffalo Bills have made the decision to keep their starting quarterback, Tyrod Taylor, on a restructured deal. A source told NFL Network Insider Ian Rappaport on Wednesday, the team then confirmed the signing. And this ends what had been a long, long drawn-out process dating. It essentially got Rex Ryan fired, Mark Sessler, his unwillingness to turn away from Tyrod Taylor to bench him in week 17.
now they have a new coach in town and they decide to keep him.
What does this tell you?
I think it's incredibly positive for Bill's fans
who are probably really concerned about where this team would be
had this dunderheaded decision-making process come out with no Tyrod Taylor.
You're basically saying that Doug Whaley,
if this guy, Doug Whaley, was concerned about resigning him,
keeping him in the building, his thoughts on E.J. Manuel aside,
that power struggle was lost by Doug Whaley.
Ian Rappaport talked about all the coaches in the building
wanted to keep Tyrod Taylor.
They knew he was the best option they had right now
and it's a message to fans
will make the right decision at quarterback right now for the bills.
Is it the long-term solution for the next five, six, seven years?
No, but that's true for 90% of the teams in the league.
You didn't make this mistake at least.
You're right about that.
But, I mean, I don't think we should be handing out lollipops
for the bills for taking this long to figure this situation out.
I mean, what were your options?
The coaching staff has not been there for long.
They have to take three weeks to watch tape.
That takes you into deep February.
You've got the combine to deal with.
And then you have to see what the quarterback market is.
I think they talked about when Mike...
But we all knew the quarterback market.
I mean, the quarterback...
We didn't know what Mike Lennon was going to get offered two days ago.
We did not.
And I think that had played into them saying, for us to go get anyone,
it's going to be way too expensive.
So cut up Tyrod Taylor's contract.
After what we saw was going to go to Mike Lennon, for instance,
you're crazy not to keep Tyrod Taylor.
Well, it's funny, though.
I mean, they, like, released this tweet that says, our quarterback.
And they've got a picture of Tyrod Taylor.
Oh, brother.
It's like 20-year-olds running their Twitter feed.
It's like an American Idol.
Like, we've, our quarterback, like, he's been your quarterback.
You benched your quarterback for E.J. E.J. Manuel.
You leaked stories to reporters in the middle of a great season by Tyrod Taylor that you wanted to bench him.
You wanted them out of town.
I think this is a good day for Bill's fans, but Bill's fans.
Especially if you like fullbacks.
Have a funny loyalty to Doug Whaley and defending everything that's going on.
It is comical to me that they essentially fired Rex Ryan for this schism in part about Tyrod Taylor.
And what do we hear over the last weeks that the front office and the coaching staff are totally divided on Tyrod Taylor?
It's funny that they hired a coach that had a history with Tyrod Taylor that wanted to keep him.
And they have a GM that basically didn't and was forced to.
It's kind of like the last year all over again.
It's crazy.
I totally get why there is a schism there.
Well, you're going to pay him to go 7 and 9 and play his game instead of the coaching staff's game.
That's what you get with Tyrod Taylor.
You're not running an NFL offense with Tyrod Taylor.
You're running his offense, which is going to be a very run-heavy offense.
And it's not like, it's not, how are you going to keep up with the Patriot?
I don't know.
Mark's right that it's better than the alternative.
What's the option?
But it's.
A, we heard the coaches all wanted to.
to keep him and they like them. I think it's a lot to do what the
alternative is. But if you get rid of Tyrod Taylor,
you've got a flaming PR mess
on your hands, and then you end up with what,
Brian Hoyer or
the latter day version
of Jay Cutler? I would
just disagree that it's a good day to be a bill
spin. It's more wheel spinning.
There's a chance he can be better.
He's been in this often.
So yes, you have to...
Carra Taylor was not a terrible quarterback by any
stretch last season. I didn't say it was a terrible quarterback.
An exciting quarterback. You're signing up for seven and
and running his office.
For a couple of seasons, you're hoping that Rick Denison and Gary Kubiak,
essentially, their offense can bring Tyrod Taylor to another level.
He's been in this offense.
I mean, that's the thing.
You have a coach.
Sean McDermott's not touching the offense.
So it's Rick Denison's offense.
You have a coach who coached him in this offense in Baltimore and was willing to stand on the
table that he's going to fit in it.
You know, it's a lot better, I think, than they could have done otherwise.
You prefer stand on the table as opposed to pound the table.
Yeah.
You're a stand-on-the-table guy.
I pound the table for pound the table.
Pound on the table, it's like my son pounds on the table.
You know what I mean?
When he wants a little more of food, you stand on the table.
You get people's attention.
Mark, where do you come down on this?
Don't typically get on top of tables or do things to tables.
I'll get their attention in a different way.
Moving on.
Speaking of Brian Hoyer, he has a new home.
And that home is Santa Clara, California.
He signs or agrees in principle, excuse me, to a two-year deal with the 49ers.
We don't know the terms, but Greg and I were batting around a few numbers.
Two for 20 could be what we're talking about.
That type of money may be higher than a standard backup below like a true starter.
We'll see where that falls in.
But the bigger question now, what does this move?
What does this mean?
The move reunites Brian Hoyer with Kyle Shanahan, who just joined the team.
team obviously used to work together in Cleveland.
But what does this mean, Mark Sessler, with Kirk Cousins?
Does this mean the end of the 49ers being linked to the Redskins passer?
I think it does, but I don't think it's because the Niners don't have an interest in Kirk Cousins.
It sounds like their pursuit of him will carry over to next offseason.
And, you know, if you're the Niners, you've got the number two pick.
They're not going to use that on a quarterback by all accounts.
It could be also the 34th and the 66th and the 109th.
You could grab a quarterback somewhere else.
It is an awful idea for anyone to think that they're going into the season with Brian Hoyer
as their starter based on what has been a hyped up campaign with Cleveland under Shanahan.
He had a 55% completion percentage, 12 touchdowns, 13 picks, and was benched for Johnny Mansell.
That is the on Mark Sessler's radar.
It is on my radar because I understand that Kyle Shanahan is the bell of the ball right now,
but if we trust Kyle Shanahan, we have to assume he does not see Brian Hoyer as a starter.
He's had more work alongside Brian Hoyer than almost any coach in the league.
That cannot be the final conclusion.
This is our starter.
This is a solution.
You've got to keep looking.
We've got to play someone.
It's good to have some.
If we're going to kill the bills for signing up for Tyrod Taylor, this is a patch times five.
Who killed the bill?
No one's killing the bills.
I think the bills are not being, they're not being,
they're being critiqued to some degree for getting this deal done with Tyrod Taylor.
I understand the schism and I don't think it's a good day to be a bills fan.
I think it's a lot of wheels spinning and the bills have been doing that for two days.
Well, I don't think the 49ers fans and I don't think they are should get overly excited about Brian Hoyer.
I don't either.
It's a mega patch.
No one would disagree.
Yeah, he, he, think about what he did in Chicago.
He played pretty well.
What are you doing Houston?
He played pretty well.
We know who he is.
He's like the definition of the guy to just get you by.
You know who's in a bad spot.
My Jets, because Brian Hoyer was a nice mega patch situation.
Tyrod Taylor, they had eyes on.
And you know what we're getting back on potentially now.
Greg, I know you're excited about this.
Gino coaster.
Well, we'll see if that happens.
It's either Jay Cutler or Gino coaster now.
That's where we're at.
I think it's Cutler.
Cutler's got to go somewhere.
Or it's Deshawn Watson.
They draft someone.
I mean, why do you have to sign up for Gino Smith?
Because we're not really hearing about the Jets right now anyway, going after a quarterback.
Well, they might not want to advertise that.
What about old Pierre Garsohn and San Francisco?
I mean, that's not the only signing that's going on.
Tell us about it, Greg.
I mean, I'm just saying San Francisco is that team this year that's going to spend a lot.
Like, we're taping this Wednesday afternoon.
think by the time we tape again on Friday, they'll have spent a lot more money.
They're not afraid to go over what people would think about the market value.
So I bet Hoyer is getting good money.
And Garsohn is getting $16 million in 2017.
It's going to be, I think it was about 22 over two years, so 11 per year.
It's front-loaded.
But Peregrosone is going to be one of the highest paid receivers in the league.
And that kind of, it just makes me think they're going to keep.
spending like crazy.
Like, this is just the beginning for San Francisco.
Well, you see that Kyle Shanahan's bringing in his guys, guys that know his system
and can teach it to any other new players that come in there.
That shouldn't be surprising to anyone.
I like that they added Kyle Eustach too.
I think that's a kind of player that Shanahan can do a lot with, very productive in Baltimore.
And you're right.
I think Shanahan, of all the new coaches, is the guy that, again, it's another thing.
When you're successful in the playoffs and everyone's watching you,
his stock rose so high that players want to go.
They watch what happened to a guy like Taylor Gabriel who was cut last off season
and is now on, you know, good morning football this morning as their star guest.
I mean, it's like you suddenly go from a nobody to a household name in one season
if you're plugged into the right offense.
Shanahan, I hate being the person that does this,
but after having like listened to him at the Super Bowl and then the Combine,
I'm kind of all in on Kyle Shanahan.
Like, I've been won over of his, like, his confidence and his experience.
I think the fact that he's been running, you know, an offense for nine years that it's good he didn't get a head coaching job.
He was just so, like, open and frank, I think, and confident.
I think it'll take time for him, but I'm kind of buying that that he can turn that around there.
I mean, a likable coach has never failed in the NFL, so you're probably—
Yeah, I don't even know if he's likable, but just the confidence and the combination of confidence.
and smarts and experience and age.
Like, it's a nice mix to take a chance on.
Counterpoint, it could be an overconfident bozo.
I felt, I was surprised.
You know, throwing...
Colshanahan has had a few strange breaks with teams, too.
This is not...
This is guy who's had some drama before.
That's what kind of I like that maybe they're getting,
that I know it's, he's still relatively young,
but maybe he's a little more mature that he was before.
I was almost surprised he let, there was like this.
feature and we're off topic here but yeah go ahead in the in the chronic in the san francisco
chronicle which details you know him and his wife's relationship and it details after the
super bowl how like kyle shanahan like collapsed in a ball essentially crying uh after the super
bowl i was like i'm a little surprised like he's letting that out there be so vulnerable
tell me more about the the behind closed doors with kyle and his wife some feature it was good
eric branch do we give any credit to john lynch
I wonder if this goes well for the 90s.
The one thing I'll say is there may be more teams willing to not just bring their general manager up from the 25-year-old scouting career
where you see everything the same way as everyone else around you, and they bring people in from different areas.
I feel like it's premature to hand out law.
I'm not saying it already happened.
I just killed them.
I'm not sure about Brian Hoyt.
I know.
It's like, listen, let's see what happens with it, but they are making things happen.
They just paid $5 million a year for fullback.
I know.
They also paid Earl.
They went out of their way to pay Earl Mitchell.
This is the podcast.
This is the episode where we praise those teams.
And then, you know, come in mid-November, we'll see.
No, I said $5 million for a fullback.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not praising that.
I'm not saying you are, Wes.
I'm saying fans love to see their team be active on March 8th and 9th.
But what does it lead you in the middle of fall?
That's bad, dog.
Here's an active team.
The New York Giants, as we noted earlier.
I should say I noted.
Greg.
Play ball!
Ste-Rae!
Brandon Marshall, he has jumped across town.
He's changing addresses in northern New Jersey.
He is moving to the New York Giants.
Rap sheet reported this earlier.
Strike three, Europe.
And now he is signing a two-year deal worth $12 million.
He was slated to make $7.5 million with the Jets.
So he did take a pay cut to go to the Giants.
and I think he spoke on a conference call
where he said he could have made more money elsewhere,
but he wanted to play with Wes Stifle Your Laughter here,
a Super Bowl contender.
And he wanted, obviously he didn't say this,
but he wanted to stay in New York for the post-career opportunities,
although inside the NFL could be over there.
He hinted at that.
Not that it matters, who cares.
But anyway, Brandon Marshall, Wes,
joins a wide receiver group that includes Sterling Shepard,
and, of course, Eldel Beckham.
What do you think about this move?
It's a great fit until it's not.
I mean, it looks great on paper,
and you could see this working out wonderfully.
Their offense has a renaissance.
They have a great wide receiver core.
Wide receiver wasn't the issue last year anyway.
But it's a great fit until you see two of the biggest divas of the 21st century,
Odell Beckham and Brandon Marshall,
yelling at Eli Manning or Ben McAdoo on the sideline.
Or at each other.
Or at each other.
It could go either way.
I could see this being a team that goes deep in the playoffs
if Eli Manning's throwing problems for the final two months of last season
were purely armed tiredness or something like that,
not a precursor of what's to come,
or it could go the other way where it blows up in their face.
Marshall is one year removed from one of the best season of his career
where he had 115 catches and led the league in touchdowns
and had over 1,400 yards receiving.
He looked a step slower.
last year. And I know the Jets had quarterback problems. We all know that. But he wasn't the same
guy last year. He's going to be 33. So I don't think it's like a home run move by the Giants,
but it's also a move I can get behind. And I saw one kind of tweet that I thought was Asinon.
It was like, oh, this move shows you what the Giants think about the maturity of O'Dell Beckham,
that he could handle this type of situation. What? They just love the fit, possibly. They
look at the paper, too, and they love the way the roster looks with Brendan Marshall as a
starter, and they're rolling the dice a little bit.
That's what this is.
He wanted to go.
It's rare that a player almost, it feels like he chose them.
That's 1607 games without a playoff appearance.
That's a great point.
I took this quote I listened to.
He was talking about just how he's been treated and everything the last few days,
and he says, now I can understand why everybody holds the Giants organization so high.
They do get a lot of that.
Dan, you know, stick in your craw that, you know, go.
from one team to the other and you meet it's kind of like hey the big brother they're the classy
classy guys there's no it's like such it's such a big difference between the two organizations that
that just to me that's what we've been hearing about the giants forever that they're very well run
organization and people love speaking highly of them i like this new new phase dan has entered where
you completely you cannot wrinkle him with the jets right now no they're so far away
that i i can't i got a long road ahead it all your shots now he's taking all your shots now he's
I'm taking them.
It's akin to when I attempted to get off the Browns.
Oh, I'm a train a couple years ago and was told I was not allowed to handle life that way.
No, totally different.
You said, it's entirely different.
We just never bought it.
We never believed it.
It's entirely different.
You were retiring as a Browns fan, I believe, is where you were going with it.
That's not what the word is.
I am more, I'm looking at this from the big picture viewpoint that I'm going to be, the Jets are going to be taking some shots.
And so is the fan base for a couple of years.
So you can't get too worked up right now.
I think Wes is on to something, seeing how this could believe.
I had thought this is a good move.
I mean, you're replacing Victor Cruz with Brandon Marshall.
That is a nice upgrade, even if he's a step slow.
But just imagine if their passing attack is as bad next year as they were this year.
And there wasn't a lot of yards to go around there.
And it's just, it's a bad recipe.
If you want to look on the bright side, the Brandon Marshall honeymoon usually lasts at least one year before it blows up.
It could work.
It could also not work and not work in a really bad way.
We'll see.
Moving on, Mike Lennon, before today was the bell of the ball
at the quarterback position of free agency,
which is still hard for me to say in a lot of ways.
But that's just the way it is.
That's the market.
And here's the thing.
Despite the fact that he is in demand, several teams would be interested in his services,
we continue to hear, in this from Rapsheet and Mike Garifolo,
that Glennon has his eye on the bears, the feeling is mutual.
We're talking $14 to $15 million a year.
and if when free agency officially begins tomorrow,
don't be surprised if this is one of the first things that comes across,
if not before then,
that Glennon and the Bears are in bed together on a new deal
and he is their new quarterback.
Greg.
I feel like I've talked enough about Mike Lennon to last me a lifetime at this point.
They haven't even cut Jay Cutler, by the way.
We're kind of waiting for that other shoot-a-drop.
I want to see if he gets the money everyone was saying.
because it doesn't seem like there's other teams really in on.
Right.
Did the Bears, is that why there hasn't been any news yet?
Because the Bears found out they were bidding against themselves.
Exactly.
That's almost why I want to talk about.
Like, it doesn't seem like the Jets are really in on it.
The Bills are now already out.
The 49ers are already out.
So it's really the Jets.
And maybe that's why it's almost silly to crit.
We've criticized the Bears and talked about this money he's going to get.
Let's see what he gets.
Let's see what the structure is.
Let's see if it's more than one year,
past guaranteed money.
Like I believe he has a chance to be good
and so that he's worth taking a chance on.
And he's only started 18 games
and he's had some really good performances.
So let's see.
I think it'd be worth taking a risk
at a certain level and I suspect it's not going to be that good.
Is there a wild card team other than the Jets and the Bears here?
Could the Texans get in the mix?
Browns.
Well, what about the bucks making
and they tried to get him back?
They offered him solid money.
they came back into the mix, but he wants to start.
They'd have to order starters.
He wants to start.
They said they offered, supposedly they offered him eight a year, which shows that they
really think he's good, but it's still a backup.
I don't think the Texans are sneaky for Glennon, but I think they could be sneaky
for Cutler if they lose that on Roma.
Ooh, I like that.
Ooh, la, la.
Really?
All right.
Quick little break.
Better than Oswald.
I'm not at the point where we're getting excited about Jay Cutler, then football's
reached a new low point for me.
Then football's been at a low point for me since about 2005 because I've been riding that chain.
It's very, yeah, for Jay Culler to excite any fan base, you have to be really in the gutter.
And Brock Osweiler is pretty much the gutter, yeah.
I can't believe it.
Before we move on, I just want to say we were supposed to do an NFL network kit today,
but we're not valued highly in this company.
So we were wiped off the books when the Tony Romo.
news came, but that's not even the big story of this group and NFL network.
The big story, and I wanted, Greg, ask you about it, was I watched your hit.
You did the touchscreen yesterday, and you did a really nice job with it, but I wanted to get your
opinion on this.
Thank you very much here with NFL.com's Greg Rosenthal.
The NFL.com.
The NFL.com.
The NFL.com.
Just when you thought you were one of them.
They pat you on the head and then they send you back here.
NFL.com's Greg Rosenpull.
I mean, I've...
In a big spot.
Yeah, I was there, and it didn't even...
It didn't even cross my mind that that would have been an insult or not.
Let me give me a break.
What do you think, Wes?
I wish you weren't a liar.
I mean, some host-on-host crime here.
You know, you're putting, you know, Amber Theo Harris in a tough spot.
I'm sure she's going to appreciate her voice slowed down to a drunken gnome speed.
I believe Greg is being 100% honest here.
I don't think that he cares much about being known as NFL Network's Greg Gross.
This is a bit on your show.
That is utter nonsense from West.
Yeah, I don't know how much you paid West before the show.
Right cares very, very much about it.
Who cares what they're saying as a.
Like the intro to your thing.
As long as they put them on TV, that's all that matter.
They patched on your head and they gave you a little cart in a milk and sent you back to your cubicle.
It's like what a title, what a titles mean?
What, you know, what is your title on your little NFL Lanyard thing?
Oh, no.
Mine said, I got it today and it said like a new one for the first time.
Digital content editor.
I got one for a new one for a first time.
You're getting new, you're getting new building equipment before all of us too.
It's the first one with a picture.
It said, good for you.
senior content editor what does that even mean i didn't even know that it's all about content
a lot of cash how much do you make right does it um so you all right so you're not reading into
it no it could have been it was kind of freudian maybe on the part of the people across the hall
that's all well you know they've they've done a good job promoting our top 101 throughout the week
and i think they generally say nfl dot coms you know it makes sense
It's on NFL.com.
Yeah, but my point, Greg, is that you've been doing more and more stuff from the camera.
At what point, it's not like they're calling them NFL.com's Brian Billick,
even though he has a column.
I mean, it's just about respect.
Maybe you need to go over there and crack some skulls.
What about this theory?
The NFL networks, Greg Rosenthal, is a movement that is self-contained entirely inside this podcast,
which they don't listen to.
It may not even be on their radar that he would want that or we would want that.
Maybe.
All right.
Let's move on.
Colts tight end news.
Get excited.
We'll start with Jack Doyle,
who signed a three-year,
$19 million deal with the team.
The team announced it on Tuesday,
another $2 million available in incentives.
O'Dill ranked number 60 on our top 101 free agents.
Did you just change them to O'Doyle Rules from...
O'Doyle Rose, Madison.
Anyway,
Jack Doyle was known as a blocking specialist behind Kobe Fleamer and Dwayne Allen.
Fleener left last year, went to New Orleans.
Alan signed a extension or a new deal with the cults last spring,
and now he's out the door because Dwayne Allen,
on the same day we learned about Doyle's new deal,
was traded to the New England Patriots,
a trade that keeps the Patriots well-stocked at tight end
with Martellus Bennett, looking more and more certain that he is leaving the team after one year.
But now you import Dwayne Allen, who maybe Greg is not as good as Martell's Bennett in terms of a dynamic playmaker when Bennett's healthy.
But he's a well-rounded tight end that you would not be surprising if he is a real producer in Foxborough.
No, because he's been a great red zone player throughout his career.
I saw a stat that he's in the top four since he entered the league in terms of converting red zone targets to touchdowns.
Grabrenkowski on that list, too.
He's a good blocker.
Bill Belichick has talked about him as one of the best blockers that he's seen a few years ago.
But he hasn't been healthy.
So they're taking a pretty big risk.
The trade terms are literally the exact same as the Martellis Bennett trade.
They basically got a starting quality tight end to move down from the fourth to the sixth round.
So that's great.
And they're only paying them $10 million total over the next two years.
It's a chance worth taken.
I like it.
Smart move.
The Colts paid Duane Allen almost $12 million last year.
So the deal was front-loaded.
Now the Patriots get the cheap section of it.
But he was outplayed by Jack Doyle last year.
Jack Doyle had a good season.
Jack Doyle was their second leading target.
No one else was close.
Yeah.
Dwayne Allen, a good red zone target, had more touchdowns than Doyle.
but I think it's still a good pickup for the Patriots
in the sense that he's a high potential player
of it. You'd have to call Dwayne Allen
one of the more disappointing players in recent years.
I think he was one time making the leap candidate.
For the right reasons, though.
He looked good.
In theory, he's one of the few tight ends
who can block well at the line of scrimmage,
move the chains, and be a red zone weapon.
He's a complete all-around tight end when he's on the field.
And you know, Dan, he's not off.
You plug him into New England, what's going to happen to him?
Oh, well, it doesn't quite qualify as I stated, I think, a few weeks ago, the, oh,
Patriots move of the offseason.
But it's kind of close because I know, Duane, remember that sleepwalk, Jets Colts Monday night game in early December when Alan had three touchdowns in that game this past season.
He has that ability, and I'm sure if he stays healthy, he's going to have a nice season.
But now you have two, like, injury-prone tight ends in New England.
And that's the other way to look at it.
Well, you needed another quality guy, I think, to back up Gruncowski,
but you don't want to pay him $9 million that Bennett's going to cost.
This does sort of, I mean, deflate gates in the rearview mirror after they won a Super Bowl after it.
But this really hammers home to point that, I mean, they're now doing trades with the Colts.
I mean, that's a sign like Bill Polion is long gone.
Ryan Grigson, who I don't think they ever would have done a trade with.
He's long gone.
It's like, it's a little surprising to see the Colts, it almost worries me.
You know, the Colts send, you know, another AFC rival.
They'll send the Patriots a player.
It's a, it basically moved down from the fourth to the sixth round.
They basically gave away Dwayne.
So the Colts were going to cut Dwayne Allen.
I think Chris Ballard's going to be a good job.
They got value.
Yeah, that's about.
They've stocked out some draft picks.
They got a lot of compensatory picks, too, the Colts.
Moving on.
So a lot of things happening.
Keep rolling.
The Ravens.
They lose Rick Wagner.
Jesus Christ.
They lost Rick Wagner.
Do you want to circle back to Tony Romo?
I feel like we gave him a little short trift, seriously.
We should talk about our big, we had a big screaming match between me, Greg.
Guys, I got Rick Wagner news here.
No, I like Rick Wagner.
What were you going to say, though?
Basically, me, you and a shadowy league figure screaming about whether Tony Romo should be number one on our free agent list or not.
I would have called screaming, but it got a little tense.
And at one point, West got a little, you know, he stepped into the danger zone a little bit at one point.
With the shadowy league figure.
Yeah, you got a little snippy with the shadowy league figure.
You had one line.
It was a little snippy.
What was it?
It was basically how you talked to everyone.
But in this case, he was like your boss's boss's boss's boss.
You said something like I think it was something along the lines of I'd love to know where you keep your time machine or I'd love to know where you keep your something or other.
Oh, yeah.
Your injury prediction.
Yeah, your injury, injury prediction meter.
I assume if he keeps the injury predictor behind his couch.
And listen.
That man does not suffer for smart Alex.
Doesn't suffer fools gladly.
That's why you've not gotten a new lanyard.
That shadow elite figure and I get along just fine and always have.
And by the way, Romo ended up number one.
Before we move on to Wag.
He ended up number one.
I agree.
Wag the dog coming up next.
I wanted to talk through it.
I didn't want to just award a guy who hasn't been able to stay healthy for three straight games
in two straight years.
You know, just assume it.
I grant you all of those points.
and yet anybody who has a chance to be a franchise quarterback is worth it.
The Bears let Alshan Jeffrey get to the market,
our number one player on the list.
They let him get the market with no wide receivers behind him on the roster.
There's no way the Cowboys would let Tony Romo get to the market
if they didn't already have the answer, Dak Prescott there.
I mean, putting Romo anywhere other than number one
would have been a great gimmick to get this 101 list back into the news very quickly.
Really?
I mean you're going to put all Sean Jeffrey who's also what injury prone and has a suspensions hanging over his neck over Tony Romo that would be unbelievable but if you're if you're setting the the odds on Tony Romo like Tony Romo plays half half of next season like over under like that's close to 50 50 so if you have a player where he's 37 years old and there's like a very good chance isn't there a very good chance that he just gets hurt and it's just a total disaster?
Yeah, I mean, oh, we blew it with Tony Romo.
We forgot to rank Don Terry Pohart.
Big deal.
Here's the thing people forget about Romo's injury issues.
He had that ludicrous decision to scramble in the preseason game
and he broke his back or whatever the hell he did to himself.
So that obscured the fact that entering the season,
the back was always an issue.
But the main concern was that he was coming back from another collarbone injury.
This time, a surgery where they shaved off part of the bone to put in a plate.
So we don't even know.
He could literally sign a massive deal with Denver or Houston or whoever
and take one hit and that that surgically repaired or twice surgically repaired clavicle goes.
And it's all over.
He's the bigger injury risk than even Peyton Manning after the next surgery.
But he could also lead the Broncos or the actions of the Super Bowl,
which Al-Shaun Dreff is not doing with anyone.
No, I'm with you.
And that's why I agreed on it.
But I think it was partly because I wrote the newser and going through the last,
The list is crazy.
I wrote the news, sir.
Two broken collarbones.
One compression fracture in his back.
Disc surgery.
Two transverse process.
So you're saying he's tough.
Fractures in his back and assists removed from his spine.
And he's 37 and not necessarily a guy who, you know, you assume is going to age gracefully.
Well, he certainly isn't ageing gracefully.
What does that mean?
His body is basically a complete remission.
As a person he is, though.
He seems like a stand-up guy.
I heard some talk that he's like...
He's still 36, by the way.
He turns 37 next week.
How old are you?
He is exactly two days older than me.
I've heard that he's been inspired by Tom Brady
to kind of really get his conditioning and all this.
I don't know if it's...
Is it too late to do that?
No, I don't think it's too late.
But it's, I mean, why not be inspired a couple years ago to do that?
Look at Tom Brady changing lives.
I think if you look at Roma, I mean, he didn't look like a...
guy who is necessary.
Coming up next, wag the dog.
I know. Poor Rick Wagner, unbelievable.
This might end up being the
best free agent signing there is. Of all
these clowns. Dan's so uncomfortable. We went
off his precious little order to
talk about the most interesting guy.
Because here's the truth. Let's pull back the
curtain. Greg privately will tell
us any show over 47
minutes should be dragged into the
recycle bin and trashed immediately.
So it's like, here's the old
Zusser trying to keep the show moving.
Got a lot of stuff to get to.
Right now, we're at the 41-minute mark, 42-minute mark.
I've given up that battle.
We're still on page one of our notes.
Oh, God, if we don't keep talking about Tony Robo,
we'll never have another chance between now and week one.
It's like, let's circle back, which is fine.
We did.
It was fun.
We talked about injuries.
But it's like, let's not pretend all of a sudden.
Now you love to beef up a show.
This is a 14-year career in Dallas.
He came in Eastern Illinois.
I'm just saying this is his fun.
I'm shifting into chapter three of this commentary.
Yes.
The host has asked clearly for the conversation to move on.
Rick Wagner, yay or nay?
Thank you very much here with NFL.com's Greg Rosenthal.
The Annabelle.com.
The Annabelle.com.
The NFL.com.
The NFL.
14 years for Tony Romo. Is that right?
That's who you are.
14 years.
14 seasons.
Just a little kid.
from eastern Illinois
quarterback
ups and downs
where does Ricky
Ragnar rank on your
Ricky rankings
wag the dog
it's behind Ricky Henderson
and Ricky Water
you want a hot take on old Rick
Rick Springfield
this is a red flag
for Riley Reef
they had a right tackle
that's supposedly
the top
tackle or one of the top
two tackles available
and they let him go
so that they can bring in
the old Rickster
wait till the Ravens replace
Ricky Wagner
and then you'll talk about
the red flag that is Ricky Wagner
but they're not going to pay
guy that much money.
Rap sheet reports that Wagner's deal will eclipse
$9 million per year.
That sets a new high at the position.
That makes Brian
Brian Bulaga's deal look like
you know what's stupid?
This is, you know, this would, if I,
this could be a get off my grid eye, like a really
low, low wattage get off my grid eye.
Why is the
the highest paid right tackle
in the league?
why would he, he's the 13th highest paid left tackle.
Is it really that big of a difference?
Well, he can't play on the other side.
But isn't right tackle almost as valuable at this point as left tackles?
Is it really that big of a difference?
There's some bad left tackles.
That's what I'm saying.
Getting paid a lot of money.
I'm saying it's a valuable spot.
Pay them in.
Greg, do you mind if I move on to this?
No, let's talk Rick all day.
Adrian Peterson, you know the name.
He might be,
willing, according to Chris Wessling's latest piece
to give the Patriots a team-friendly deal
in free agency.
Not even my latest Adrian Peterson piece.
Oh, wow.
Anyway, here's the truth.
The Pats, not atop his list
because he likes the Raiders and the Seahawks.
Those are his preferred destinations
according to Stacey Dales.
And you know what?
Wes, the old Zusser's got the Raiders as the pick.
But I also heard in our sandwich props,
but I also heard that the report out there
that the interest on the Raiders side
not as strong as Peterson's interest for the Raiders
so maybe we've got to pump the brakes both you and I
and in Mark, I believe.
Mark said at the Raiders.
Minus a theme song.
NAPE. Well, get to work on that, son.
Well, I think he has a much better chance
of going to the Raiders than the Seahawks
and the reports have come out even stronger
that the Seahawks have said,
no, we're fine at running back.
And we've also seen reports
that the Patriots still are a possibility.
I think what you said
that the Raiders aren't as interested in him
as maybe he's
interested in the Raiders is true
for the entire league.
We've heard a lot about Adrian Peterson
wanting to go to certain teams.
We haven't heard anything about teams
really showing heavy interest in him
other than Minnesota.
What's with Adrian Peterson's dad in the mix?
It's pipe down.
It's never a good idea when the dad
start getting quoted left and right
about their son's career.
This is a legendary First Ballad Hall of Fame running back.
He's 32 years old.
He's a man, for Christ's sake.
Dad.
You wouldn't want Keith out there representing you?
No, I love my old man.
Love Keith Hanses, but I can handle my own business.
I'm a grown man.
It's bordering on Marcus Vic territory.
I mean, is there, why, what is the rush to get Adrian Peterson today?
I think weeks could go by before he signs with anyone.
That would have been a good prop.
I wonder how long it will take Peterson to come off the market.
Doesn't seem like people are knocking doors down to get a hold of them right now.
I think there's so many good running backs in this running back draft.
And then there's plenty of solid running backs available in free agency,
Latavius Murray, Lagart Blunt, who am I forgetting, Jamal Charles?
I mean, there's guys out there that you're right.
Rex Burkhead.
People are going to wait for the market to come down.
Wait a few days.
They're not priorities.
I'm going to circle back to Romo again.
Really?
Immediately?
Your entire life savings, which I know in this room, myself included, not a lot.
But you have to wager your life savings on this.
Tony Romo, we don't know where he's playing, but we assume he's a starter.
Over under starts this season.
Ten and a half.
I'll go over, but I'm not risking very much at all.
You're talking about my entire life savings?
Well, you got to, you get your car repossessed.
Do you lose your lease?
I'm not comfortable with this.
I'm really not losing my life.
I've never really had anything, so I'm really flying about to see my pants here.
They take your laptop, your game pass.
I mean, whatever.
Do they take children's toys away, the whole thing?
Take your children.
I don't know.
The children?
I'm not participating in this.
Right.
Routing for guys' injuries is kind of like Mark's thing.
I don't, you know, I don't want to get into this.
Far from my thing.
I'll go over.
He's going to start more than 10 and a half games.
I don't know how you start half a game, but he's going to...
Well, it's less than 11.
He's going to start 11 games or more.
All right, you got the over.
I'm putting about $1,200 total on it.
Don't forget your...
The Jetta.
Take it.
I don't care about that thing.
Yeah, what we're saying is we got nothing over here.
I know you, I mean, you guys are focusing on your financial plate.
We've lived rough lives.
Give me the over under.
Someone take the plight.
I took the, we both took the over.
All right, Greg.
I'm taking the over because I don't want to root for him to get hurt.
You don't want bad karma.
It's so fun.
I would love, wouldn't it be fun to have Tony Romo kind of have that?
Absolutely.
Super Bowl run.
So that's what I'm rooting for fun.
But the smart man takes the under.
That's all.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not saying that I want him to get hurt.
I'm just saying if you want to, if your life savings on the line, you have to remove.
Oh, I hope Tony is going to be helping.
Well, because I got to take the under.
How many seasons in his career has he made it over 11?
Right.
And now you spin this to reality.
Is that the type of guy you wanted to get into bed with for a lot of money?
I'm saying the smart money would be statistics would say there's a much greater chance of him playing more than 10 and a half games.
Well, he hasn't too straight.
So that's, you know, recent.
Right.
It's recent.
He's age by the age.
It's recent he buys.
Well, he starts 12 and you're living on a tent by the sea, Dan.
Even going to see how that works for you.
Tony, so everybody wins.
Well, sure.
Or somebody.
Three of the last seven.
He also had that 2010.
Can we circle back to the oldest he's ever been?
Yeah, let's bring it back to Rick.
Yeah, let's take it back to Ricky Wagner now.
How many games does he play?
What?
14.
I'm going over on 15.
Over 15.
Going 15.
He's going to strain his hamstring in week six and miss three weeks.
Nice little combo, you know.
Terrible guy.
Taylor Decker.
A lot of hot takes.
Washington Redskins General Manager, or, well, not for long,
Scott McLuhan, not present at Reds.
Atkins Park on Tuesdays, the team prepped for the start of free agency.
Rapsheet reported.
And, you know, what else needs to be said at this point, Greg?
It's all the writings on the wall.
Over under games.
Scott McLuhan is your GM next year.
I'm going to start it at zero.
Yeah.
Under.
Can you go negative?
You go under zero.
But it's, you know, the one thing is people, obviously, if you cover the league, if you
follow football closely, you know that Scott McLuhan came in with issues.
Bottom line is one of the considerable.
one of the top film-watching talent evaluators out there.
And he, I don't know what the issues are right now.
We don't know the whole thing, but it's a sad story.
It's a side case.
I don't know.
How many more NFL jobs does he get?
I'll set the over under a point five.
I think he could get a consulting job.
He was working, like, essentially remotely as a consultant for teams,
and maybe that's what you're doing.
It was a surprise that he got another chance to run a team.
and it would be tough for him for that to happen again,
but I could see him working in the league, certainly.
Yeah, I guess I kind of actually meant GM.
But, yeah, I don't know.
And the only thing we've seen is there was a tweet of him walking his dog
in all Redskins gear, not exactly incognito.
Red Red Redskins pants, red Redskins top, Red Red Redskins hat
with the big bushy Dave Letterman.
He just met the over on Romo and they took away his Redskins gear.
Meanwhile, they're in free agency and it's unclear who's running the team.
It's good.
I mean, what's the general manager's Super Bowl is free agency?
I assume it's Bruce Allen who once did have the GM title.
They have certainly plenty of people that were working for Scott Magooen that can do this sort of stuff.
But it's bad.
Moving on, Dorel Revis.
We don't know yet if we'll see him again in an NFL uniform.
Pro football talk reported that the, quote, current thinking among those close to Revis is that he'd want 8 million.
or more to consider playing in 2017.
Revis, of course, guaranteed $6 million
and his leftover money from the Jetspoon doggle.
So playing for anything less than that,
it would be losing money to play this year.
Greg, your thoughts on this.
I know you, well, what was our prop?
Did you say, take me through that.
I can't remember.
I don't even remember, but I have some sandwiches
on Derell Revis not playing again.
Actually, I think Connor put it out there
that he would sign it.
He would sign a two-year deal.
We had just had a vigorous argument the show before that he'd even play again.
I was just kind of putting out there.
I don't think he's going to play.
And this report certainly makes it sound like he's only going to play if he gets $8 million.
Good luck.
I mean, there's no chance.
There's no chance.
So if he sticks to that, his career is over.
I think Dorel Rivas has turned evil.
What do you mean?
Seriously, he has turned evil over the past 365 days,
and you're not just bringing the player in with his diminished skills.
you're bringing Dorel Rivas the locker room presents in.
Two years of that?
Here's what one general manager told the New York Daily News.
Have you seen his tape?
I wouldn't let him play for me for free.
Now, that's just one general manager.
But if you're looking to make $8 million if that report is indeed true,
which we're not, we don't know it for a fact.
Well, the most telling part of the report to me was Florio's suggestion that he could collect the money from the Jets in 2016.
And then return and play in 2017.
Like take a year off, take the money.
Oh, forget that.
And then come back.
That would be the, I mean, for a guy that has a reputation as a mercenary.
And on some level, that was unfair because he just was playing the game right in his career.
On some level, it's fair.
Now it's, if he were to do that, I mean, it goes to the next level where the guy is just squeezing every penny out of everybody.
I just had a Cessler that Jeremy Bergman will be writing an article in late June of 2018 about Daryl Revis's comeback.
Wow.
With the Patriots.
No, his bid is trying to get teams interested in his comeback.
Oh, like the sad Tiki Barber coming up bid.
Him and Vince Young are like a package deal.
Right.
This is a gym video.
Revis is down 14 pounds and he's squatting 7 million pounds.
Mm-hmm.
Like every one of those plates in the entire gym and he's squatting it.
He's like, I'm ready for it.
But it's like you're 34, dude.
Go home.
It's like Tiki had to go home.
He did.
Now he's doing Geico commercials.
He is.
Probably pays well those Geico ads.
It needs it.
Got cleaned out and a divorce, if I'm not mistaken.
All right.
And that broadcasting career never took off the way he expected it to.
A little tiki talk.
It has a radio show, national radio show.
Good for him.
CBS Jason Lockin for reports that there's a, quote, strong likelihood that Ravens bring back free agent.
wide receiver, Tori Smith, who was cut by the 49ers
or released by the 49ers on Monday.
So a reunion is a very strong possibility, Chris Wessling.
Maybe he should have never left.
Well, he wasn't got paid.
He seems a little duplicative with Mike Wallace,
but the Ravens are not deep at wide receiver.
I just don't know if it's as good of a fit as it was a few years ago.
people have talked about Mike Wallace as a potential cut
because he's making a lot of cash this year.
I wonder if they ever would do a switcheroo.
Yeah, they talked like they were keeping Mike Wallace at the combine,
but that was before an old buddy,
Tori Smith became available.
So I don't know if that would change their mind.
I think to your point, though,
Dan, it's you go to San Francisco for two years to make the money that you made.
His production fell off a cliff because they had nothing going on at quarterback.
and now you're back in the free agency waters
with your value greatly diminished versus,
now I don't know the Ravens weren't a playoff team,
but a team that could have put you into January play
where teams are watching you in the winter all year long,
you're selling yourself.
Instead, you're on Chip Kelly's Niners
and your value couldn't be lower.
He's the perfect example because you've got to look at it this way.
He had value,
left the team that drafted him to sign the big contract
with a crap team where he disappeared
and got cut after two years.
Now he's back on the market at a diminutive.
finished value. Would you end up making more running in the long run if you just would have
stayed with your original team if they were interested in keeping you at a lesser number and
then got the entire contract paid? We're an extension off that. Less money in the short run. More
in the long run. Learn your lesson from Dory Smith. He's the reverse Revis. In the other option,
you stick with your team for a long time. You get into some issues. You end up in Tampa Bay.
You go win a Super Bowl in New England. Your value couldn't be higher. The Jets pay you that
value that couldn't be higher. You come back and suck royally.
Yeah. He was a unique player.
Revis. My mind hurts.
He pulled everything out of the hat.
All right.
Got a lot more to get to, but not a lot of time.
So you know what that means.
West.
8 o'clock delight.
Matt Jobs still getting paid.
I forgot he was in the league,
but he signed a two-year $9 million deal,
Mark Sessler.
That's $4.5 million to be Matt Job in 2017.
Yeah, you can do fine as the 64th best quarterback
in football or maybe the 164th.
Dennis Allen was right, Wes.
He's a legend.
The 49ers have agreed to terms with wide receiver Marquis Goodwin,
a former Olympian and also now a former Buffalo Bill.
Great speed.
Maybe a great fit, Wes, in that San Francisco offense?
Well, I think the easy observation is he wants to make him
his version of Taylor Gabriel and he's going to find out that Marquise Goodwin
is no Taylor Gabriel.
You called it an easy observation.
Greg tweeted that very observation.
Well, my, that is a shot of Greg.
He tweeted it five minutes after I tweeted.
I didn't even see that.
But my point, my point was Kyle Shanahan.
I'm saying, that's just come all the way around it,
and West just crapped on his own tweet?
How is this a light?
No, I'm saying that Greg and I were not the only ones to make this observation.
My point was Kyle Shanahan has such godlike powers.
He can turn someone as lousy as an NFL player as Marky's Goodwin into a great player.
That would prove his godlike powers.
NFL Network Insider Ian Rappaport reported Tuesday at the Rams are in discussions with several clubs
about potentially trading away their top cover man, Tremaine Johnson, Mark Sessler.
What?
My thing is it's meant to be one of the best cornerback classes in recent history, long time.
Why are you going to sign up necessarily unless you love this guy for a ton of cash for Tremaine Johnson?
You could get him through the draft.
Is this kind of like a Kirk Cousin situation with the Rams?
You can see the Brown's getting them, right?
Yeah, because, yeah, the Greg Williams connection.
Browns, draft a cornerback.
Actually, don't draft someone like you drafted two years ago who was an absolute nightmare.
Did you guys really hire Greg Williams?
You guys?
Yeah.
I don't have anything to do with it.
He's a lot better than their last few defensive coordinators, I would say.
I think so, too.
Yeah, better for that guy.
Oh, all right.
What do you got?
John Morton running your offense?
Have a nice time.
Not Johnny.
Coach.
Not Johnny.
John.
He's a man.
Johnny Morton.
Moving on.
Miami Dolphins will resign defensive end.
Andre Branch, a three-year
27-million
dollar deal. He's now
just behind Cam Wake among
4-3 defensive ends in
money-making. Greg,
worth it?
No, you want to sign Andre Branch on the
contract they signed him to last year get some good
value, not for this
top-shelf money.
Barry Church.
Looks like he's leaving Dallas. Rapsheet reports
that, barring a change of heart,
the safety.
It's a weird one.
The safety is expected to land with the Jaguars on a four-year contract
worth more than $6 million per season.
Church ranked number 29 on your top 101 list, boys.
Wes, good signing by the Jags?
Three and 13.
Oh, wow.
I mean, they do this every year.
You're going to go break the bank,
make your starting lineup so much better
and then your quarterback holds you a hobby.
Well, they needed a safety.
They were losing Jonathan Sipri and they needed a safety.
Can you pause the music for one second?
And by the way, Jaguars, come back to us.
You hire Tom Goughlin as your executive vice president,
and now you're selling shirt, t-shirts at your team shot,
all in with Coughlin?
That's how you're trying to get fans excited?
Coach Thunder T-shirt, because Keenan McArdle is your wide receivers coach.
You're selling a T-shirt for a wide receivers coach?
Come back to us!
I don't know.
It's going to be hard to pitch them as our annual...
Hype team.
I don't think they want to be pitched that way either.
I also came up with...
It's got to be the first 70-plus-year-old
executive VP to have his own t-shirt line by the team.
He's like a lower-level version of the Dolphins
when they had parcels up in the front office.
I came up with two shirts
because I felt bad for the other two principal guys
near the top of the food chain.
So how about Maron?
It's Marone for a T-shirt.
That's great.
And how about Allswell with Caldwell
Can I make a t-shirt?
I like that. I like that.
Yeah.
It's going to say I can't wait to not watch the Jaguars in 2017.
What is?
West just hateful to the Jaguars.
Barry Church.
Have a change of heart.
That's my advice.
You said that there might be some breaking news during the show.
You were right.
Yeah, breaking news?
From Mike Rodak, ESPN Buffalo.
Bill's coach, Sean McDermott has removed a pool table and video games from the locker room
that were installed.
during a 2014 renovation.
McDermott making moves.
Isn't that an old trick?
Didn't Tomlin do that one year?
Take the pool table away?
You can't take away the guy's pool table.
How many years ago?
Three.
That's Doug Maron territory.
We're right back here in Jaguarsland.
This is a trope and he's going to pay for it.
The bills are in for a hell of a season.
Recommence, 8 o'clock to light.
Chandler Jones and the Cardinals
finalizing a five-year
contract extension that will keep the pass rusher in Glendale.
They had previously tagged Greg Rosenthal Chandler at 14.6 million for the season.
They're keeping them in business.
That worked out to be a very nice trade for the Cardinals, and I believe the Patriots
used that pick to sign one Cyrus Jones, who had a disastrous rookie season.
I think it all worked out for the Patriots as well.
Sure, I guess.
But, you know.
It's the end for Elvis Dumerville.
has left the building.
Has anyone ever done that before?
Dumerville was released by the Ravens on Wednesday
that saves over $6 million in cap space.
Dumerville, a very, very tasty option for the graybeards
who are management is really purring over a lot of these releases
and he could be a real important player for the San Diego graybeard's age 33,
five-time pro bowler, but hasn't done much, Mark,
in the last couple of years.
Time to go.
No facts needed.
I don't know how to top your graybeards update.
That's obviously the A's storyline here.
The rest is, I'm not going to make a fax machine joke.
That's very tired.
Okay.
Let's move on.
Let's move on.
Vernon Davis staying in Washington, the tight end, 32 years old,
44 catches for 583 yards and two touchdowns last season.
And you know what, Greg?
He was frisky last year after being kind of off the grid for a couple of years.
Now bought his career another couple of years.
That acting career is going to have to wait for Vernon Davis.
Or forever.
What will Hollywood do?
And Redskins fans, I guess this is a sign.
You guys are making moves.
Resigning Vernon Davis.
Yeah.
That is not going to keep them happy, Greg, as much as you.
Greg hates the Redskins.
Let's put that out there.
Let's stop.
Brendan Lafell is staying in Cincinnati.
The 30-year-old who had 862 yards and six touchdowns last year is not going to test the market.
He's staying in since he has aged and an ounce Wednesday.
You like that, Wes?
Lafell, a little sneaky.
Decent.
Hell hath no fury like an NFL network star scorned.
Greg won't even mention Brandon Lafell anymore because he had a bad year in his last
New England season, and now Greg thinks he's the worst wide receiver in the NFL.
But like you said, he did have 800 yards later.
He's solid.
Six touchdowns.
Fine, since when did this happen?
You hate Brandon Lafell.
Is that true?
I don't at all.
He doesn't get you excited in the morning, but.
Finally, bills are stocking up on tight-out-in-fullbacks.
Mike Tolbert coming to town
somebody else as well
he escapes my mind right now
Patrick DeMarco
Yeah get excited
Like when you make a fullback joke on Twitter
The Bill's fans will be quick to point out
No Tolbert's playing running back
This is their version
Like okay that makes it better
He's 260 pounds
This is Buffalo's version of getting
The DeMarco Murray Ryan Matthews
duo that Philly got a couple years ago
LaShawn McCoy versus Mike Tolbert
Who'd he got in a street fight
Not Lashon McCoy.
Mike Tolbert, please.
Tolbaum.
Day one of free agencies when you got to get the fullbacks.
All right.
That's it.
That's it for 8 o'clock delight.
That's it for the show.
It's now known as 9 o'clock delight.
We will be back on Friday,
where we will continue to break down all the news as all the news that fits.
I think that one's taken
That slogan
All the News That Fits?
Who took that one?
Jaguars just put it on a T-shirt
All the News that fits is that
What is that?
It's all the news that's fit to print
That's from a newspaper called the New York Times
I know, I got you, but I'm talking about
Someone else uses all the news that fits
Maybe The Onion?
I don't know
Who cares?
Us, we use it.
Yeah, we'll be back Friday
So make sure you come back
Because I'm sure a lot of stuff will happen
Tony Romo might even have a new home by then
You don't know
It's that type of situation right now
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