NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Romo speaks & QB rankings

Episode Date: November 16, 2016

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling & Gregg Rosenthal – discuss all the latest news from around the NFL including Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo speaking out for the first time on the team’s QB controversy, and Jeff Fisher announcing the Rams will start Jared Goff in Week 11. Then, the heroes break down Gregg’s latest QB index - ranking all 32 starters from around the league.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, Dan. I decided to change my cadence there, hitting emphasis on different words. Put the emphasis on the wrong salabla. My advice, don't do that again. Well, you just got to, listen, we're now at week 11. As we head toward week 11, just got to keep things fresh. Got to keep the listener. This is broadcasting 101, Mark.

Maybe you should take some notes. Well, this is not a dress rehearsal. so I don't know why you roll out the show with a completely bizarre entry that no one approved of. Wait, you took broadcasting 101? 102, actually. Doesn't it just go to 201?

Yours, maybe. It's the Around the NFL podcast Tuesday edition, sponsored, of course, by Mr. Flames' economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands. Big show today, Monday night recap, some big news, including finally a quarterback change in L.A.

NFL network's Greg Rosenthal will talk about his QB index That's ridiculous I don't appreciate that Why does that make you? I don't know It seems like a shot somehow You think I'm hinting on a class divide or something?

I don't know That's more in your head But Greg is a TV personality Now big time, big time We're all on TV A lot more than I would ever be on solo Every Saturday Pick them three times

That was an adept attempt at changing the subject but but it also is true it's a fact part of the story i've not seen anyone in this room on tv this year except for gregg well you got to watch more tv west we're all on tv i don't watch tv NFL pickum our saturday uh pick show that we do of course with check and move the sticks set your DVRs set your DVRs uh and then our tnf preview uh later in the show today uh new olgins at carolina uh before we get to the monday night recap though. Some breaking news.

A blogger Chris Wessling warring with NFL security over an ID badge placement. This happened shortly before lunch on our way to the commissary. Wes was halted by a security official that asked for him to wear his badge

over his shirt. Wes complied. But then put the badge back in his jean pocket only to be once again accosted by the same security personnel to be told, sir, put that badge on display. And now I throw it to Chris Wessling for his reaction, Badgade. This particular security officer have been ranked number one in my security officer rankings

around the campus here. She has descended all the way to the bottom spot. Which was also one because she only knew her. I like her. She reads books. when she has spare time. Wow. A reader. She seems like she's big on self-improvement.

I expected someone with that kind of mind to be above the Nuremberg defense of I was just following orders. Use common sense. You see me every day for three years. You know my face. I don't have to wear a lanyard around my neck. My badge is quite clearly visible on my belt loop.

Counterpoint, Mark Sessler. The only counterpoint that I'd offer from her angle is that there are instances where people who are dismissed or fired from a company, someone that you've seen over and over, and she's not in the loop of the NFL media transaction page, an angry employee comes storming in, and she just says, oh, I recognize that face. He or she rolls right into a news operation and takes out 15 people.

She is going to be questioned. She might even lose her job. That's right. What does that have to do with me? She doesn't know whether or not you're actually even employed here at this point. And it really has nothing to do with you at all. It has to do with the larger scope of her job where you can't assume people are employees. Are we hitting at something here?

It's a Chris Wesleying, don't you know who I am scenario? Ooh, interesting. It's about me. I say hi to her every day for three years. Can I offer Exhibit A? Yes. What does my shirt say? Says NFL Network.

With an official NFL Network insignia on it. So NFL Network's Chris Wesleyan. Yeah, she, I'm wearing an actual NFL Network shirt. She doesn't need my ID. I clearly work in this building. Again, Chris, this has nothing to do with Chris Wesleyan. But let's say you were fired and you came back tomorrow in an NFL network shirt and attempting to do something negative on the premises.

Her job is to stop anyone without a badge from commanding their will on the company. Let's say I'm fired and I wear a lanyard around my neck tomorrow. You turn in the lanyard when you're fired. It's a very thorny issue. I'm not bloody likely to cooperate with that. a thorny issue that there's no Greg, do you have something

that you want to share NFL Network's Greg Rosenthal? Well, it was interesting you know, after we had a pre- Breaking news, Greg Rosenthal is going to share his take. TV's Greg Rosenthal. You know, we have a,

we had a pre-show meeting. I know that's surprising to listeners that any of this planned at all. But, Wes, to avoid passing by the security thing, like found a whole new tunnel way through the system the new mouser the new mouser that's what i call it well or the first mouser the other one has not been been built yet so uh can i make a couple of more one final point

for how about you want to stick a pin in it we could come back to it why don't we do that because we got to get into the show all right we're like i mean i feel like this yeah no i don't i don't want to short you you are right no matter what let's do the monday night recap Stick a pin in it. Let's talk about that happened on Monday. That was the actual original lyric. Yes, Monday night at the Meadowlands,

the New York Giants hosted the Cincinnati Bengals. Two teams very evenly matched when you look at the grand scheme of the NFL in a lot of ways. And on this day, the Giants were just a little bit, better. Let's hear one of the two touchdown throws from Eli Manning on this evening.

Manning again surveys the defense. Play clock at 12. Takes the snap back to throw. Lime's the pocket. Rosed to the end. Don't for Odell. Touchdown Giants. Ten yards on the strike. And the Giants are back on top with 117 to go on the half.

That's Bob Papa, WFAN. Actually, three touchdowns from Manning. The Bengals came back after the half, put up 10 points to take the lead, but a late touchdown pass to Sterling Shepard was the difference. The defense on both sides held the rest of the way. Greg, final score 21 to 20. The Giants, a little under the radar here, 6 and 3. And the Bengals, a mess at 3, 5, and 1.

Your thoughts about this game? Well, these two teams, they play the same game every week. They are very reliable. The Bengals are disappointing and a little boring in the same way every week. And the Giants find a way to win. these games. And I don't know about the future of this team, but they deserve credit on defense for what they're accomplishing because their defense was put in a lot of bad spots by bad Eli Manning interceptions, by bad special teams. And Jason Pierre Paul and Landon

Collins stepped up. A lot of other good defensive player, Janoris Jenkins, and Steve Spagnolo I used to get on on this old podcast. He's having a great season. You've come all the way around. Well, he's having a great season. They blitz like crazy. They're a effective when they blitz, they're tough to handle. Does Steve Spagnola know that you guys have patched things up? He's a big-time listener of the show, so it heard him in the past, you know, what I used to say. Wes, Wes, this was another hit to the possibility of a West of us this January. First thing I thought of.

Yeah, I'm a little worried. Fortunately, they play in a division which is not very competitive, so they have a chance to get that number, the top spot in the division. and the Ravens have to go into Dallas this week, so I don't think the Bengals are out of it by any means. But yeah, it's a bit of a blow to my favorite holiday of the year. You start to think, and we all were agreement on this, this is kind of a sneaky bad game for 2120, especially, you know, after, first of all,

onions where onions are due to Ben McAdoo, because I second guessed it initially on fourth down and goal from three yards out. He could have kicked a field goal to make it 20. to 17 and there was still a lot of time left in the game at that point. They opted to go for it, which a lot of coaches don't. And they got the Eli and Shepard connected to give the Giants a lead. And then for the

rest of the game, basically a trading of interceptions or punts and the Giants, it was almost anti-climactic the way they ran out the clock even. They just ran the ball and the Cincinnati couldn't stop them. I think we finally If you want big onions, you've got to get a big onion plant. It's true. No

comment. What? I mean, you know, you're going to you're going to roll some sound bite over the first thing I was that was genuinely every show every show I think Sydney that was a coincidence right I am innocent that was genuinely unintentional that time I mean Mark's face give me a break give me a break we'd use we employ drops on the show Mark and that just happened to connect with the beginning of your point what I would say is that yes Sydney anything else the Giants ran the ball last night we've been killing them all season and they got ground yardage when they need it but I want

I want to, if you want to make one defense for the Bengals, I don't think they're a good team. And if they ever snuck into the playoffs, you're going to get what you want, West. They're going to get rocked in the playoffs. Yes. But this is the thing. This is who they've lost to. The Steelers, the Broncos, the Cowboys, the Patriots, and the Giants, all potential playoff teams.

That said, if you want to be a playoff team, or you're going to beat any of these, it's the same thing with the Bengals, but how far away they are from last year's team right now, The Giants are a much better team at this point. Well, we talk, speaking of the Giants, we talk about Melvin Gordon a lot because with fantasy football driving everything in the NFL these days, offense gets all of the spotlight. Landon Collins is the defense's answer. From a big plays all night.

From a liability in coverage as a rookie to a guy who could be heading for an all-pro birth this year at safety, he's the Giants' best defensive player this year. He's the only player in the NFL that leads his team in sacks. interceptions, and tackles, which is an almost impossible combination. You need a lot of things to come together, including your defensive line, not having many sex. That's incredible. I'm surprised we haven't mentioned, though, your boy, O'Dell Beckham, I mean, he had what had to have been the most memorable route of the year. I mean, I know, I know, you know, this is Matt Harmon's, you know, Ballywick, you know, the routes.

But that route that he threw. We're allowed to talk about routes. We're allowed to talk about routes. That rowdy threw on Pac-Man Jones. It was insane. It was insane. They would put that in the Route Hall of Fame. What is it called?

An up and down and up. Up and what's the route called? STD. Shoot. This is where we need Harmon. I think you've named it. Up and down. Definitely not the up and down.

I felt bad for. Out and up. I felt bad for Pac-Man that. I mean, that was the equivalent of being posterized. Yeah. Yeah. And the Bengals, they, yeah. I mean, listen,

We look at their schedule here. I think their next game, by the way, against the Bills, that's one of those games. Loser disappoints his dad. Even more. He might actually die because the loser of this game, Bills, Bengals, I think you can write them off. Both those teams desperately need that to stay in the picture.

This Bengals team used to be tough. They let Paul Perkins and Rashad Jennings run out the clock. they used to have a good offense. The offense had 264 yards in this game, and they're all big plays. It's almost the opposite of what the Bengals used to be. Nothing sustaining. It's just they have an occasional big play, but that's it.

Nothing backs Wes's summertime, every summertime announcement that running backs are a year-to-year proposition. What is going on with Jeremy Hill? You talk about how they used to be tough. Jeremy Hill used to impose his will on defenses, and they would choke out the clock. It's the opposite. right now.

Well, they've gone from a team that had an offensive line on par with the Cowboys last season to an offensive line that's in the bottom quarter of the league this year. Offensive line's been a liability all year long. Here's the thing that Eli Mani is not having a good year. I don't think this Giants team is going anywhere. They have the Bears in the Brown's neck, so they have a chance to get to 8 and 3, and they're in a good position to maybe make the playoffs. But they've been a consistently bad passing game.

That didn't really change last night. So there you go. That is the Monday night recap. Well, we should mention the intense, ridiculous, almost farcical irony of Tom Coughlin taking up so much time at halftime giving a speech that he forced a delay of the game. The man who's so concerned about time and everything. Imagine how annoyed Tom Coughlin would be as a coach. La Raville.

And he got on the mic and he said, I know we're a little late here. that is not allowed he said i know we're a little late here but i'm not getting cheated out of my night that's what he literally does not bother me nearly as it much as it seems to bother the team i just thought it was funny i'm not really bothered but it was just it was funny you know grandpa tom wait you're furious i'm furious because grandpa tom not only was the undermining macadu before the season started with his little trips to the team facility to use the stairmaster now he's he's delaying the game actually affecting games because it's his moment Wait, so we have to wait like an extra 180 seconds for the second half of a largely dull Monday Night Football game.

Wait, was he the reason we were spared Stephen A. Smith this week? No. I don't know. Were we really? I believe we were. They didn't show the Cofflin. They didn't show the Cofflin, but they did make it clear. And people covering the game, including our very own Conner-or, you know, they had the quotes from Cofflin. Oh, are you kidding me?

Come on, bro. He wants to coach again. Get off the podium. Let's do some news. I'm not going seven and nine. Jeff Fisher doesn't want to go seven or nine, and now he's going to take his chance with the kid. The Los Angeles Rams finally ready to see if Jared Goff can be the guy they need him to be

and turn their offense around the season. NFL networks Michael Silver confirmed with Goff that the Rams plan to start the rookie on Sunday against the Dolphins in L.A. ESPN first reported that news. Case Keenham, who started nine games, they started that guy nine times. We'll hit the bench after a win, ironically, but another game in which, Wes, he was unable to move the offense and score any touchdowns. It's got time.

It's time. I am generally in favor of any move that makes boring teams more interesting. This will make the Rams more fun to watch. Jared Goff has an arm. We saw that in the preseason. It's not Jay Cutler or Matt Stafford or Joe Flacco, but it's, He's got a much bigger arm than Case Keenum. It's going to allow them to throw outside the numbers and down the field

as long as he can pick up blitzes, decipher defenses in the middle of the field, and get his team to the line of scrimmage, all of those areas he struggled with in the preseason. Well, that's my question for the Rams is it was less than two weeks ago, if not even before that time, where they said he's not ready. There's nothing about him that's ready. So all these things that, in theory, would be good about him. A, is he suddenly ready now? Now that you've got, you know, after this weekend's the Dolphins,

two games on the road, including one against the New England Patriots. And B, you stuck with Case Keenum for an incredible amount of time. Are you going to give this to Goff until the end? If this goes very poorly, are they going to panic? I can't imagine. But it's a good question to ask with this coaching staff. You would think Goff has the job for the rest of the year. I think part of it was they can't get worse.

I mean, they're literally dead last in the league and scoring. In the last 34 drives that Keenham had, they scored one touchdown. And that touchdown was a garbage time touchdown against the Panthers. That's 34 drives. He had five picks in that time. So I think he's probably made improvements you would think in practice. He's going to have to score points. You got a four-game stretch after this Sunday where you play the Saints, Patriots, Falcons, and Seahawks.

He is going to have to generate points. Well, I think what Steve Weish had said, and he's been reporting on this issue all year, basically they want to see flashes from him, don't turn the ball over, and hopefully unlock some of Todd Gurley's potential by keeping defenses from stacking the box. That's what they want to see out of golf. I'm not sure they're asking him to beat the Patriots and Seahawks. Do you feel like Jared Goff, who has not taken a regular season snap in the NFL, is going to scare defenses enough to back off the way that?

they've defended the Rams? It's a fair question. I think if you're the Rams, you hang your hat on what Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz, and even for a stretch or two, Cody Kessler have done as rookies, and they haven't been a liability. They've been pretty,

I think in most cases they've been better than the veteran alternatives. The most important thing in this season for the Rams is to develop golf, and it sure seems like the best way to do that is to play. Most quarterback say that. I mean, most jobs are like, that. Even if he really struggles, I think it's the best thing for him long term. And you look at the

schedule, this week's pretty tough against a good Dolphins front. Not a great secondary. You know, Saints, that's a relatively easy matchup in terms of the defense. Patriots at this point, I think, is not a tough matchup in terms of the defense. Falcons not that good. 49ers are coming up. You have to go to Seattle. But otherwise, it's okay. Those don't feel like Todd Gurley Special. No. No, I'm talking more for golf, but not terribly good pass rushers except for that trip to Seattle. Let's move on to talk about another quarterback situation. Dak Prescott and the Cowboys have won eight straight.

There's no way the guy is going to lose his job. Jerry Jones confirmed as much on Sunday saying he's going to continue to ride with a hot hand. And where does that leave? Tony Romo. Romo had a press conference where he spoke candidly about the situation. And let's hear a little bit right now, Sid. To say the first half of the season has been emotional would be a huge understatement. statement. Getting hurt when you feel like you have the best team you've ever had was a

soul-crushing moment for me. Seasons are fleeting, games become more precious, chances for success diminish. Your potential successor has arrived. The press is whispering, everyone has doubts, you've spent your career working to get here. You see football is a meritocracy. You aren't handed anything. You earn everything, every single day, over and over again. You have to prove it. A great example of this is DAC Press. Scott and what he's done. He's earned the right to be our quarterback. Romo spoke for six minutes, and right there, Greg, he starts, you know, he reads off the

card and reads a statement, doesn't take questions. He's earned the right to be our quarterback about that Prescott. That's hard to say, but he's earned it. Wow, what a scene. It was hard. It was heartfelt. I mean, we always criticize guys for talking in cliché. and that's the, you know, he did not do that.

He, he bared his soul. When you hear that he's going to make a statement, you almost think that's taking the easy way out, but he didn't at all. He just wanted to kind of bear his soul to all the fans. And I think part of it is being the Dallas Cowboys quarterback, too, not just any other team that he's just, it's hard to really imagine how big of a deal he is in that area, especially.

I'm going to look back on this. And years from now as one of my favorite press conversations, as I've ever heard, it was the ideal way for a leader, a veteran, to address this situation where he has to put himself aside. He called it soul-crushing, and if you're in his place, you can understand, but he hit the right note. Any of us who've ever been on a team before know what it's about, like each season it's its own growing organism, and you can't stand in the way.

He said, this is magical, what's going on with the Cowboys. He kept that in perspective, and I think perspective is the right word for that press conference. Yeah, I mean, I think with Romo, he's never really viewed, it seems to me, the way that people talk about the psychotic preparation of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and how much it means to them. But all we've heard about Romo over the last couple of years, especially in the way that they, this is an organization that allowed Jason Garrett to grow from a backup quarterback into a prized assistant, into a head coach that they allowed to weather through all. storms. I think that they have nurtured Tony Romo in a similar way and now view him as not just their quarterback, but a beating heart for that team and someone that does not get the credit he deserves for stepping aside in this situation right now and doing it in a wonderful fashion. I mean, it's, you know, people are going to gush about it, but it also deserves it in this case.

It's something that struck me because it was so unusual. It's something that I could imagine reading something on like the players tribune that he would put out like here's here's the link about where i'm at right now but to do it in front of the people and i mean it was emotional a great just a really like a special scene for for dallas and the absolute best case scenario in terms of how you want the proud veteran to act and making it very clear that he wants he's here to help dac and referencing how people helped him when he was once that young upstart that was taking the league over which i think makes everyone feel old in this room because i feel like just yesterday. Romo was the

new kid on the block. But yeah, what a scene. I think you can also, if you're a Cowboys fan, you had to have been struck by the contrast between 2015 when you let Greg Hardy infiltrate your locker room, become a poison, become a carcinogenic agent, and spread throughout that season to the point where you knew

you couldn't overcome that. And the opposite is going on this year. If Dak Prescott goes down with an injury, right everybody's going to have Tony Romo's back to at a greater degree than they ever had before because of how well he handled and that's a good point that this is not the it sure feels like the end of Tony Romo in Dallas it might not be exactly a lot can have at the very least he's the back of quarterback for the rest of the season which is a significant role and the thing that struck me though was was him looking back because I think the injuries that he's had is part of this

I mean, he has not played for a year now, and he's not getting back on the field. He called it soul-crushing. But when he talked, yeah, and when he talked about Dax last 10 weeks, and he said that's a special time in your life, I mean, you see a guy who knows, and he talked about it, that he's closer to the end than the beginning, and he's thinking back to how special that was to be that young guy, and that he's not that guy anymore, you know,

and then realize he. that well you know he did a lot of self-reflecting when he closed the statement with when you've conquered the man inside of you the man across from you really doesn't matter he sat and he thought about this for two months maybe maybe almost yeah that's true too much that's crazy um and most of last season right that's sort of what i was thinking too and it gets it's almost a contrast uh you know Drew, this has been compared to Bledso Brady a lot, and it could be compared to Bledso Romo a little bit, too. And I think you can draw contrast in how those were handled.

And Tony Romo might have thought, I'm going to handle this in a different way than it was handled when I was coming up. And this is how I'm going to do it. So, yeah, this is obviously a huge story that will continue to be a big story, not only because it has a star quarterback involved of Bromo's stature, but it's also the Cowboys and there's all the drama. So this season, really all of a sudden, from a greater perspective, the NFL has the focal point storyline is now starting to focus in on the Cowboys

and we'll see how it plays out. We will be here to track it. Let's move on in the news. Blair Walsh finally ran out of lives in Minnesota. The Vikings released the kicker who wasn't so long ago signed a lucrative extension with the team, but after missing his fourth extra. point attempt of the season on Sunday, this coming after he missed another extra point the week before the Vikings now on a four-game losing streak, decided they couldn't do it anymore.

They drop Blair Walsh, and they are expected to sign Kai Forbath, according to NFL network's Mike Garifolo. So, Blair Walsh, all done. It's the most pressure-filled position in the game in football. and nobody's happy to see Blair Walsh go. But if you're the Vikings and your formula calls for you to play close games, rely on your defense, you need a reliable kicker. And Blair Walsh was the opposite for the entire season.

And it was hard, you know, when you miss a 27-yard field goal attempt that ends your season in the playoffs, that's hard for any kicker to come back from. We've seen it through the years how these things can stick with kickers. And it clearly had to have a role. He missed eight kicks this season. And only Roberto Aguio, ironically, a second round pick this year, also dealing with pressure issues, has been worse than him. Well, and four of those were PATs and four were field goals.

And in the missed extra point against Washington came at a point where Minnesota's offense had woken up. They looked good and they were about to score 21 unanswered points. He misses the PAT. You go into half and the Vikings don't score again. It's not Blair Walsh's fault entirely. but he had his share of momentum destroyed. He was a sensation. Remember as a rookie, he was an all-pro.

He was about as famous and doing as well as a kicker can be to come into the league. But that's the nature of that position. It drives home Adam Vinatari's point, which he's made several times, there are thousands of human beings who can kick 50-yard field goals and can out-kick him in practice. But this is a game where it rewards the mental giants at that position. You have to be mentally strong to be an NFL kickers. Let's move on.

Rob Grancowski, if you were watching the Sunday night game between the Seahawks and Patriots, took a really, really big shot from Earl Thomas on a route down the seam in the second quarter of that game. Had the wind knocked out of him, sat out for about five plays, but then came on to finish the game. Afterwards, he had this to say about the hit and an almost cavalier attitude. He hit me fair, fair and square. it's football you're going to get laid out eventually but then we learn the next day NFL network insider Ian Rappaport reported that gronk suffered what is believed to be a punctured lung in the teams lost to Seattle on Sunday he's expected to miss Sunday's game against the 49ers because

of the injury and perhaps more we'll have to see but yeah Greg this is obviously when you take gronk out of the equation no matter how long it sucks it does but you know that their schedule is insanely easy. It's a ridiculous schedule. Coming up. You know, it's 49ers. Then it's the Jets. Then it's the Jets.

And then after that. It's the Rams. It's the Rams. Then it's the Ravens, which are a week to be. He'll be back in. And look, they have depth. They have a pro bowler, I believe, at the position in Martellus Bennett. Their offense will be fine, especially against San Francisco.

You know, you worry if it's a long-term thing. And you think back to that game, they're throwing a fade to a guy with that sort of injury in a huge game they didn't know that at the time but it's strange to think back he played through it we can't comprehend the level of toughness it takes to play in the NFL

the last time this happened on a grand scale was Tony Romo hit a puncture and didn't miss a start right that's a good that's a good call I mean he missed five plays and after the game all he could say was you know he got me good eventually you're going to get laid out

if you play in the NFL there is a tedious a very tedious aspect to Twitter when this kind of of information bubbles up, and it's like, whoa, he played through a puncture lung. Now, point taken, but then all these sports writers being like, if I had a puncture lung, wouldn't even be able to get out of my desk. Like, we know you would not.

You're 160 pounds and 5 foot 6. You would not. That's the average sports writer height and weight. I'm like 135, you know. So heavier than you. Um, yeah. What were we talking about? Blair Walsh, no.

Gronk. I mean, Mark really threw me off. Dan is, dad is reclumped after this Romo press conference and he can't really move on. I think it's hit at home. All sports writers being five foot six 160. It's interesting. That's not a good, that's not a good height weight combo.

It would not be, but I mean, have you been in the scrums with most sports writers? They're beefier. They're usually a little taller. Yeah, maybe like five nine. 200 yeah that's where i would put all right corrected let's move on uh and talk about see woke back to sleep christin michael breaking news really everybody got excited about christin michael yes i asked for it it happened during the show it's breaking news uh christen michael has been uh waved by the seahawks the odd man out

in that backfield now uh as it turned out thomas rawls coming back from his injury C.J. Procise has really thrived in his role, and West will start with you. You believe that Michael's ready for a big season, and it wasn't like he was a bust necessarily, but apparently within that building he was deemed expendable. He wasn't anywhere close to a bust. I'm shocked by this move. I am too. I get why they like Thomas Rawls better. He's a better tackle breaker. He's more physical. He's more in line with what Marshawn Lynch was.

and I get that C.J. ProCise is definitely going to be your passing down back. So where does that leave Chris and Michael? It leaves him without a rule. It also leaves you, I guess, without, you could say it leaves you without insurance for roles, but then they feel like ProCise can handle that. So I guess he got caught in a roster crunch. I think there's more to the story. There's got to be a husband.

There's no way they're cutting Chris and Michael if there's not more to the story. And this is a guy who's had more to the story multiple times, including with the same team in terms of his work habits or how he was a professional, essentially. So there's got to be more. I mean, we just talked about Tony Romo could be more graceful about a difficult situation. We have no idea how Michael responded inside the building

to other running backs rising up. He has 117 attempts. Precise and Rawls combined have 45. I thought he ran really well, too. I do too. I don't think that Michael on the field was an issue at all. I'm as surprised as Westville. Well, how about a team out there now, like the Giants

and any other number of teams that have an issue in their backfield? Maybe he's a guy who take a chance on. But, again, this is all very familiar, though, because he's been bouncing around the league now for three or four years. He's proven more this time around. This season, he's proven he can play. He's proven on the field more, but it's a red flag that the Seahawks who know him the best had concerns.

I am sure we're going to hear something else about this. That wouldn't surprise me at all. I would say, though, that if Rolls, When balls comes in and blows the doors off, everybody's going to assume that, like, for the last month, Kristen Michael was terrible. It's not fair. Knowing what we know about mobile quarterbacks

that they give running backs a huge advantage, it's not going to be fair that, like, a suddenly healthy Russell Wilson is giving Rawls an advantage that Michael didn't have for a month. I thought he ran really well, even when the numbers were there. It's clearly not a good receiver. With that said, ProSys has more to offer than we expected.

True. You know, he looks, you don't want to give him the ball 24 times every week. they did against the Patriots, but he had a lot of success running between the tackles. I mean, he wasn't just a passing down guy. He had a lot of six, seven, eight-yard runs up the middle. You don't just cut Chris Michael, though, for Giggles. There's got to be, he's not the least valuable player on your roster. There has to be something about him that they are very turned off by.

Maybe he can land in Minnesota and save the team of ATL season. It's true. Ooh, I like that. Why not? It happened all the talk on Sunday about Chris and Michael running in socks. he does fall a lot yes i wouldn't have you watched minnesota's running backs a guy in socks would be an upgrade i'm just saying is he going to go to a team and we'll see he'll get picked up he'll get picked up we assume right yeah we assume yeah all right anything else yeah i thought that two breaking

definitely worthy of breaking so much breaking news today wow this podcast is really i used to be involved in those feels like nfl dot com remember breaking news I would be a voice in the room. Should we break it? Should we not? Who cares? And then you went to Hollywood. In front of the big cameras, saying?

That's what's happening in the news. All right. Oh, Wes, do you want to follow up with your point on the security official? Well, I think it's fair to say that a 42-year-old man should not have to have something dangling around his neck while he's working. Lanyards are for, like, kids, not for a grown man. Lanyards for kids. Greg, your thoughts. Well, that part of it, I'm on the fence.

This one I've just been listening and watching because I understand Wes's frustration. There is something emasculating or dehumanizing or just makes you feel like a child, not really a masculine. It's more like a child. Like a college freshman almost. Yeah, that you have to wear something right. So I get it. It makes you feel like a prisoner in a cell that you have to walk around waiting for some security guard to tell you to put something on. It's on my mind a surprising amount, like when I get out.

out of my car in the morning, like, got to go put my little lanyard arn. Oh, I don't know. There is something that's very annoying about it. To be clear, this is a new rule on our campus. It started a couple weeks ago. We have been wearing badges on our belt loop, and now they bought lanyards for everyone and are forcing us to wear these things.

They feel like you're being strangled by a really weak two-year-old. This, you know what? I also want to throw this out there. This hits a West, go ahead. Well, sometimes. Well, you know, I don't like just following orders as an excuse. West also doesn't like Stop being an over-o-ficious jerk.

Wes doesn't like the wire from our headsets and he's had some incidents with personnel here. So I don't like things around my neck. He doesn't like it. It's about me. Maybe, maybe in a past life, something happened bad that involved. Well, I am claustrophobic,

which is the result of my asthma. I don't like things around my neck, around my windpipe. I don't like anything like that. That is a very reasonable response to that. Thank you. During the French Revolution, you were like an assassin and you were lynched.

I got the guillotine? By the way. Chopped off my neck. Something with your neck in a past. Robes Pierre got me. One thing going for you in a over-corporatized environment, if you can get even a fake doctor to write a note that maybe even just you write yourself saying this makes my patient feel restricted and uncomfortable,

he needs an option to wear his lanyard somewhere else than around his neck. Mark's volunteering. Well, it's a great thing about working for a letter. It's a great thing about working for a quarterback. If you can lampoon their silly policies and find some way around it, they'll be happy to go along with you just as long as a doctor makes the lie up for you. Once again, it's very beneficial to the group that no one listens to the show above the second floor. No one above the second floor is wearing a lanyard.

We'll have to check in on that. We should check in on that. That's actually... Well, if there's a class... If there's some sort of class disparity with the lanyard thing, then you start to get me upset. as well. You think that security guards telling the third floor guys what to put around their neck?

I was giving her the benefit of the doubt. This thing goes south very fast. It's going to be way bigger than we realized. All right, let's move on. It's a healthy discussion. Thank you, Dan. NFL networks, Greg Rosenthal, it's a weekly U.B. index piece.

It is a real metrics gold mine in which he, by studying the tape, week after week, he comes up with a tiered system. that ranks all of the quarterbacks in the league that have, of course, seen enough action that Greg feels as a fair representation of their ability at this stage. I don't know.

Is that what it is? Yeah, that's right. Sounds good. So anyway, the latest QB index is in, and let's talk about it, Greg. And I think the one place we want to start, I just start at the top. You start.

Yeah. And you have a tier where it's the, these are the cream of the crop and sometimes Tom Brady has been alone in that tier but for a few weeks now right Matt Ryan has joined him and they are right now to you

one two in that order Brady Ryan the top two quarterbacks in your QB index I think Ryan deserves that and I think if you're talking MVP he's got to have a chance here seven games left in the season he was the most consistent quarterback

early in the season and then I think he's stepped it up another level in terms of the playmaking, the difficult throws that Matt Ryan makes. He's having an MVP type of year. Never thought, didn't think it would happen. Can't disagree with any of that. I would like to see Drew Breeze up in that top tier

where he belongs, but other than that. So Drew Breeze is at three. You would say he belongs more with Brady and Ryan than he would with the next group, which involves Matthew Stafford, Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, and Derek Carr. Yes, for consistency's sake, he belongs in that top. The other four guys in the second tier have been more inconsistent.

The argument against Breeze would be maybe his highs aren't quite as high as the others. His lows aren't as low. But you're right in terms of production. Does he get any credit for being on a team that isn't even close to as talented as the other two? He's got to do so much more. Yeah. Offensively, I think they're pretty talented. That trio of receivers and the running backs, I mean, I hear you.

They're less talented than the other team. I think they have a playoff level offense, but they have an imbalanced team. And he operates at a different level where he almost, him and Peyton almost feel like co-coaches. I mean, he's been running that offense for so long. He knows it so well. It's unbelievable. And now I'm looking at this 8 through 12. Ooh, what, I mean, especially coming from Greg, this one has to really sting for Phil Rivers, who, if he doesn't throw four interceptions on Sunday, he's in the second tier.

was in the second tier until until that you got to move down when when you have a game like that. But he's still good enough where he's the top of that tier, which includes Rivers, then Big Bennett at 9, Cam Newton at 10, Dak Prescott all the way into the 11 spot and then Aaron Rogers. I mean, again, nobody knows anything because on November 15th, you have a QB index that has Dak Prescott ahead of Aaron Freaking Rogers. Do you think that's fair? I think deck Prescott should be ahead of the 2015 MVP too It's totally fair I mean Prescott is week after week

And this he's coming off again a game his first 300 yard game Where he and that huge touchdown pass to Des And he makes the throw I mean absolutely What's the highest that Prescott's been in your Q9 or so You know he's this is where I like this exercise Because I really try to focus in on what they're asked to do And the amount of tough throws and you count all that And look, they have a lot of scoring drives where Doc Prescott doesn't have to do a lot.

That's not his fault, but he's not going to get a lot of extra credit when he throws a screen pass for 83 yards to Ezekiel Ali. He doesn't get any credit, really. How about when he hits Des Bryant on an in-breaking route with the game on the line? That's how you get in the mix of Cam Newton and Big Ben and Phil Rivers as a rookie. I mean, he has been steady. He does not have bad games. That's one of the things. But his good games aren't usually as high as a Brady or a Derek Carr or a.

or a Russell Wilson. And people need to understand that this isn't a, you're not reshuffling the deck every week. They've got to climb out of, some of these quarterbacks have to climb out of places they were and fall from higher heights. Well, Wes's boy who leads the next tier. Oh, the next tier.

The poster boy for that. Tier four, number 13, discarded from my fantasy team, but still able to get up in the morning. Marcus Marietta, followed closely by his draft mate, James Winston at 14. Tyrod Taylor after a really impressive game in week 10.

Was that week 9? You know, I just had a kid. I don't know what's going on anymore. Kirk Cousins at number 16. And then Andy Dalton, there he is again, right around the old. I know. It's too bad after these. I hate putting Dalton there because he really played great the first eight weeks of the season.

He's had two pretty bad games in a row, though. And I will say he didn't have a great game yesterday. It wasn't on him. He got ripped again, West, the catch. rule. He threw a touchdown that should have put the bangles up and a great throw that should have put him up two scores and got wiped away by the bogus sketch rule and it hurts the bangles and probably hurts him here. I think if you check the history of NFL networks Greg Rosenthal and his quarterback index. I think you'll see that he never, ever writes about Marcus Mariotta

unless he can have James Winston riding Marioas coattails. Oh, wow. Why do you have to put him opposition? Because you all, you'd never write about Marioita unless you want to write about Winston too and then you're like all these guys are both playing well well i like you never give mariotta any credit one two very nice marietta belongs in the tier up further as well as he played the last five weeks and Winston shouldn't has no business above tyrod taylor or kirk cousins or andy have you watched winston's last game it's one of the best games he that's fine but he's been a liability for a lot of the year hirod taylor's in a much better year since week five he has 11 touchdowns and two interceptions there's a he has some highs and lows he has very high's and lows he has very

similar season in a lot of ways to Marriota. Marieto was a problem. I was saying in early October, the Titans have a chance to climb out of this because Marioada's been their biggest problem. And that was not, you didn't disagree with that. A ton of- No, but you put a lot more stock in turnovers than I do. I think that Marioita's spectacular plays and his ball placement.

Right. He puts him pretty much a tier above Winston. Mariotta September is killing him. I have kind of a formula that I do. Mark's writing a post right now for ATN. See, I'm showing it. to death. I've got, you know, I give them scores every week. I'm boosting

Marriota up because ultimately I don't think his September should be held that much against him as as much as to... Damn right. That's why I dropped him. He was playing so terribly. I mean, it was bad. So that hurts him. So bad. The thing is, why can't they both be having good

seasons? I think Winston has made more plays, spectacular plays outside the pocket than just about anyone, including Marioita this season. He had some struggles early, but he's playing well. Well, I mean, he's a favorite of yours. All right, we'll stop.

That doesn't surprise me. But you act like I'm crazy. I went, because Wes is so critical of this, I went and checked like all the other metrics. You know, football outsiders had Marriota head 13, 17 in the same era. PFF had Winston far ahead, like the 12th in the league. Yeah, but PFF are crazy people. Remember the year they had Ryan Tannahill over Andrew Luck? But there's someone, there are people that are evaluating every single play and giving

We don't have to agree on every place. We don't have to agree with what value they assign to different aspects of quarterbacking. I don't agree with the fact that they value garbage time as much as anything else. Or a turnover pretty much sinks you a penalty. God forbid you ever get a penalty. Then you're the worst player in the NFL. But the lanyards, smart or unnecessary? I want to get, uh, well, I want to get Mark to tell me what he thinks is the dumbest thing on this entire list.

I am not really in the mode of. telling NFL networks, Greg, that any of this is dumb. What looms a little concerning for me, because, listen, you've gone and watched all these guys, so it's not about taking apart your list. I look that you have right now from 16 on down, and we can get into who they are, that no less than six of the 12 quarterbacks who would be in the playoffs today are at the bottom half of this list. That does not make for good playoff football.

Let's look at 18 through 25, which is your. second to last tier. Sam Bradford at 18 Carson Wentz at 19 Alex Smith at 20 Carson Palmer 21 Ryan Tattle you know you think Ryan after playing one of the best games his career gets a little more That's by far the highest he's been

He was 26 27 Eli Manning at 23 You always love to stick it to Eli but I get it He's had a bad year. Let's be honest I get it you'd probably Giants fans and Raiders fans love coming at me for this Trevor Simeon at 24 Seems a little bit generous

and Joe Flacko at 25, that is really the last tier before we get into some grim circumstances. I like that you have this trio of guys connected to Doug Peterson and Andy Reed. Sam Bradford, Carson, Wins, and Alex Smith right in a row. Does that mean that that? Is that on purpose? That coaching tree values mediocrity? Someone asked, is Alex Smith the best quarterback?

Is he the perfect quarterback for Andy Reed system? I'm thinking, no. Andy Reid, they should get someone. Alex Smith is good. Aaron Rogers would be the perfect quarterback for the system. Right, exactly. Don't forget, was it much better quarterback than Alex Smith was? Bradford, I think, has been stuck in a bad situation.

I almost feel bad that he's that low because he's played well. I feel like Andy Dalton's played well. You know, there's a lot of people like to pick on who quarterback plays, not great. Top 20 is pretty solid here. You know, you have to get past 20 until, it's not that solid. The bottom part is where Mark and I live with our teams. Here we go.

The final seven quarterbacks on your list. Jay Cutler at 26. Cody Kessler at 27. Colin Kaepernick at 28. Ryan Fitzpatrick at 29, which is about where you had him last year when he set the Jeff's franchise record. That's not true.

He finished right around the dog of mine. He always was. Case Keenan was 30. I knew where he was going. and where he had been. Let's calm down with that. Blake Bortles, 31. Blake Bortles at 31, folks.

Let's just let that sink in for a second. The inland beach house of NFL teams. Inland Beach House. And I was in Miami with my new Beach House. Well, it was a couple minutes from the beach. And the number of that lady. The number 32 quarterback on Greg's list is a man that just signed a four-year $72 million contract with 38 million guaranteed

Brock Osweiler of the Houston Texas. Brock bottom. You got Brocked. Brock bottom. A lot of T-shirt requests coming in for people who want to, you got Brock's. It's Brock and then it's the apostrophe in D. It's no coincidence that the bottom

half of this list from 26 on down features a rush of teams where coaches could be out of there after this season. You get this kind of quarterback play. It has not just to do with the quarterback alone. That smells down here in this section.

Yes, it does. Like flesh. Yeah. posterior flesh. Some butts. Brock Osweiler has averaged 4.29 yards per attempt over the last three weeks, which is worse than Lamar Miller's rushing average over the last three weeks. You know you're a boondoggle when you're below Blake Bortles.

That was a hard thing to say. Say that three times fast. Boondoggle. Boondoggle Blake Bortles. Boondoggle Blake Bortals. Nailed it. You have to throw below in there, too. Another beat.

Greg's QB Index can be found every week in NFL.com slash QB Index. QB Index. I'm surprised it's not NFLnetwork.com slash QB Index.

It's not even a thing. NFLnetwork.com. Maybe it is. I have no idea. All right. Let's finally move on to the Thursday night preview. Oh, yeah.

The Norland Saints. Dan, are you even going to watch this game. I watch every primetime game, but it doesn't mean I'm going to like it. New Orleans. You should. At Carolina Panthers. Yeah, no, this could actually be a good game.

It really could be. No exaggeration. I've never been more excited about a primetime game combining with two teams, four games under 500. Stop. Here's the thing. This was so close. It's a qualifier.

I think we talked about this on Sunday's show. This game was so close to being a real juicy match of both of those teams would have been able to close out wins on Sunday. Sunday, but instead, it's base, is this another one? Is this another one of those games? Loser unhappy with outcome, but able to keep it in proper perspective. Well, let's hope so, because whoever loses this game is done. Mark.

Yeah, I don't expect the Carolina Panthers to keep this in proper perspective if they lose. We've seen, you know, a number of times where antics have cooked up after a loss, and that could be it. Cooking up antics with the Carolina Panthers. Give me a break. I mean, this game is not terrible. Greg is right. The team I believe in more, though,

and I am shocked even a month ago that I would have thought this. It's the Saints. I think the Saints looking at their schedule, they have something to play for here. They can crawl back into this. You can keep making cases for the Carolina Panthers. I'm not on that train at this point. I hope I'm wrong.

I like the GM. I like the coach. But the Saints have a. playoff-level offense, and we've got to see Carolina shut that down. They've got to go into Carolina, though. That's the hang-up for me. A Carolina team that has outplayed its last three opponents. Right.

Is playing in Carolina especially tough this season? Post-by, they have been a better team. On a short week in practice. I'm not saying it's easy. I'm just saying this. This Carolina Panthers team is getting a lot of credibility all season long. People don't want to let go of them, and I get it. But we're getting real close.

Are we supposed to say that the Saints are some great road team? No. A little better this year. I thought they outplayed Kansas City in Kansas City, which opened my eyes. They do have some road wins. But they had 83 plays on defense on Sunday. And that was a defensive performance.

I think probably the best defensive performance by the Saints. Maybe since 2013, I'd have to go back and look. I mean, they showed some promise. Cameron Jordan is playing. about as well as any defensive lineman in the league is playing right now. They have their first round picksheldon Rankin's back. You know, they're at least not the worst defense in the league. Maybe they're the 25th or 23rd, but it's something.

The Panthers, and this is on your radar, I can tell, about staying in too long in the Panthers. But I will say this, the losing the sixth game, while it really greatly slashed their margin for error, they're not out of it. And I think that if they hold court and get to four and six, and the schedule isn't easy. They don't have an easy schedule coming up.

I'm just not ready to rule them out as a team that's going to be playing meaningful December games. Even despite that, all the issues they've had this season, I still think if their defense is playing well, which it is. And Cam Newton is still in the center of everything and healthy. I'm not ready to rule them out in this race. And I think they're going to win this game. I think this is the last gas for them. If they ever lost this, enough with all that business that they ever lost this.

But if you win, you have to go on the road to Oakland and Seattle. Then you play a weird Chargers team that could do anything. Then you play the Redskins who have not been a bat. They can be tough in Washington. Then you host the Falcons. Yeah. We've gotten past the point where we can assume the Panthers is going to beat anyone because they've been proving it week in and week out that they're hard to figure out.

But they were, they had won two in a row. They were up 17, 6, I believe, on a very good KC team before letting it slip away. We'll see. Wes, where are you coming down on the Panthers right now? I think they're playing better. Like I said, they've outplayed their last three opponents. If you read Greg's excellent, the Debrief column every week. NFL Networks Greg Rosenz?

NFL Networks Greg Rosen. NFL.com slash debrief. Does a great job of giving you the state of the league each Monday, each Monday night, Tuesday morning. And he talks about the fact that Carolina at one point in that game in the fourth quarter had a 99.2% chance of winning. It was as painful as Greg said, as NFL Networks, Greg says. Of any loss?

What are these odds things about? I see this too much, like 99.7. Well, here's why. These teams would be losing all times. Then you're also the team that lost that game. Here's the thing, because they're measuring it at every point of the game. So that's just one specific point. Yeah, that's one specific point you're pointing to.

But they were driving into the red zone up to touchdowns on a 20-play drive. In the fourth quarter. You know, late in the third as a turn. And the other team had three points at the time. That Eric Barry play was incredible. We didn't really even give it enough credit. But that felt like that felt like a dagger for their season. I'm kind of getting with you.

I'm just saying they're the team that good for them. They had a 99% chance to win the game. You also lost the game. Yeah. I mean, the Panthers have found ways to. The chiefs now have two wins. They feel a little. 99% chance to lose.

So I almost want to just re-examine how much stock we put into the 90% at this exact moment. It's just a cool number to say. They are the first team in NFL history to come back from 17 down twice in a season this early in the season. So what they have done, the Chiefs, deserves credit, and it's also unprecedented. And the Panthers seem snake bit. I do believe in mojo a little bit. And it's like everything that went well for them last year, it's not good. Like they're losing these type.

They got some bad mojo. They do feel like sometimes, you know, it's beyond all the numbers and the analysis. Things are just not rolling for your team. But Kansas City, Carolina, did the better team win? Do we all agree that? On that day, I say no. No, I don't think that. You think the Panthers are a better team than the Chiefs?

I think they absolutely were in that game. They were more than doubling them in yardage. I mean, both sides of the ball, they're kind of doing the things they want. Well, the Chiefs are not a wow team on offense. They had no Jeremy McClain. They're not going to roll you up in stats anyways. Look, they were banged up. That's true.

The Chiefs were banged up. But I'm saying that day, the Panthers were the better team. I'm not, I'm saying, are we saying that the Panthers are a better team of the Chiefs? No, I do not that they are. No, not overall. I got a good idea for you. Tony Romo to the Chiefs. Get him with Andy Reed.

That's a team. This poor guy, just think about poor Tony Romo. Just don't let him go. This was his, this was the team. Yeah. This was the team for Tony Romo, the hard luck guy who's been. underrated his whole year, this Cowboys team. This should have been it, this Cowboys team.

He's right. They would be nine and one with him, too. Well, look, there's still a chance that he'll get to play. By the way, you're... Put him on the Chiefs, though. Nice organization that wins some games. Put him on the Texans. Little Dallas heat.

Yeah. He just has to move what, how far away is Houston from Dallas? Pretty far. I don't think there's any way that they would do that. Let's talk about this. People want to know. What's Romo's future? Who's going to give up a high draft pick for a 36, 37-year-old quarter

who the next time you see him take a shot to his back, you're assuming he's going to be out for the season. Two teams right off the bat, I think would, because they've shown us that they want to build through free agency. The Dolphins, if they decided to part ways with Ryan Tannihill, you bring in Tony Romo. What about the Bears? I just don't know if you're getting a high draft pick for him.

I feel like it would have to be a team. I don't think it would happen, but the Texans are the type of team that feel like they're close and need you just get a little lucky and get the guy and then hope he stays home. Right. How are the rest of this year? I don't think they would ever trade it to the Texans. There's a sneaky heat between those two teams and, you know, ownership and rivalry.

I think the rest of the Redskins of Kurt Cousins doesn't... The rest of this season is a huge factor. Does he play again or not? Because that'll inform it. I think the Cowboys are going to do right by him. And whether they get a high draft pick or not, if they just choose to move forward with Dak, I think they'll find a place for him, basically.

And he'll probably have a say in it. don't you think like who's closer to their owners you're not just going to ship tony romo to a team for they are going to make sure that it's something that he is fully on board with they're not sending him to the 49ers right they're not they're not sending him to the jets because witty johnson's a shiny i could actually kind of get a wild card for you the jets actually i could see everybody says that i don't know i got a wild card for you who's the boldest general manager in the league the broncos john elway well people were that you talk about you're in a Super Bowl window, Paxton Lynch can sit another season.

People were saying you want to, even on Twitter, that people are not realizing the train deadline had passed, but already saying why not send Romo to Denver now? Well, you can't right now. It wouldn't, nothing John Elway does at quarterback would surprise me. It would be tough on Jerry to see Tony Romo play with a good other team. Well, if it can happen to Peyton Manning. Well, if he loved them so much, he would have put him back in the starting line.

might still happen never know and you talked about the mojo Greg save it for the theology podcast it does appear to be Greg's religion mojo

you don't really have a religion no but you do believe in mojo a little bit I like it we'll be back on Thursday with a show that both recaps

that Saints Panthers game and then we will look ahead to all and I mean all I think every team in the league's playing this upcoming week or is that next week Greg you are the schedule master usually I'm on top of this Dan but I feel like I've let you down week no next week I feel like that was wrong but I didn't want to correct you without being everyone who is listening to this tweet at Dan with the answer week 12 no teams on buy that's next so but we have a lot of football to talk about on Thursday and we will promise you that we will so make sure you tune in and also make sure continue please that's all we ask is that you support us on iTunes

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