NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Russell Wilson to the Broncos - Aaron Rodgers to Stay Home

Episode Date: March 8, 2022

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you all of the latest news in the NFL, even though not much is going on. Russell Wilson is the new Denver Broncos quarterback and Aaron Rodgers is staying in Green Bay. Reports that the Panthers are open to trading CMC surface, Calvin Ridley was suspended a year for gambling, and Davante Adams was franchise-tagged along with a lot of other big name players. Nick Shook stops by to give us his 2022 all-combine team. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And yes, the big news, the big news is obvious. Tomorrow, the Flashpoint series returns from Hyannis. Absolutely. Well timed.

Flashpoint. Flashpoint. Nothing else going on. Baker Mayfield. Got to roll out a series that you could easily do in July. A series that we rebranded after one episode into a new version of it. Listen, people were concerned with the hiatus. How long does the hiatus last?

Now, if we agency starts next week, does it go back on hiatus? Most likely. But just no, that's the big news right now. It's struggling to get out of the gate. Just know that we still have like new list. There's maybe someone who's never heard the around the NFL podcast. Wow, what a good day to check in.

One of the biggest news days in NFL history and they've already clicked off. Actually, they're like, whoa, these guys are funny, irreverent, different. I'm staying tuned. It's the other way to look at it. Somewhere in the middle. I don't think we have them on that one.

Holy shit. There's so much going on right now. And we're going to get into all of it because, yes, one of the biggest trades in recent NFL history is going to. on down the Aaron Rogers soap opera that seems to be going on hiatus for the time being although you never know franchise deadline is passing in 16 minutes exactly and we're tracking it to the deadline we're going to get to all of it all the news there's a dude that got

suspended for gambling one of the best wide receivers in the league going to hit that Greg's got some against the grain takes on that too he's going to put it all in the line. That's what I'm waiting for. That's news to me. But yes, Calvin Ridley does feel like a bit of a D story now. It's like Greg's. That was like we were leading with that 16 hours ago.

It's Greg's side hobby and deep obsession clashing with his desire to be a company man, all in one story. It gets messy. It's going to be tough. The bigger gambling gets, the messier gets. I've been very careful for Greg. Since joining the NFL. And this news, I have to say, made me have. happy of how careful I've been.

And even though we have so much news to get to, yes, the last time you heard from us, we were in Indianapolis at the Combine. We don't know much. We're learning as we go along here, the prospect side of things. But you know who knows a lot? Shooki. Shooki's a rising star, rising talent here at NFL Media. And he had a great write-up on his all-combine team.

Nick Shug, nice hook there, like that. So we're going to welcome in Shook in a bit to talk that. But before we get to anything, yes, let's get to the huge. huge news involving a certain somebody. A.C. Adam. We got a deal. Go hogs. Go hogs.

Wow. I love the Russell Wilson's Smooth Brother act. It's the best. I mean, nothing beats it. I think it was Danny Kelly who said it. Maybe it was someone else that, you know, he'll go down as one of the greatest players in Seahawks history and definitely the horniest.

It's like that's been a big part of the Russell Wilson experience, and I enjoy it. That was a social media clip from when he signed his extension with Seattle in 2019, from his bed, yes, with his celebrity wife. And it was announcing that he was staying with the Seahawks for the long term. But it turns out history had other plans. NFL Network's Tom Pelliserra reported Tuesday he broke it, that the Seahawks and Broncos agreed in principle on a trade sending quarterback, Russell Wilson to Denver.

The Broncos for a massive haul, including multiple first round picks, plus additional picks and players. The full package, which also sent a fourth round pick Denver's way. Two first rounders, two second rounders, a fifth rounder. The centerpiece of the trade, Drew Locke,

defensive tackle Shelby Harris, and tight end Noah Fant, that from Rapsheet. Greggie, the trade is pending a physical and Wilson waving is no trade clause can't be finalized until the new league year next week but it's happening and it's a bombshell that rivals any trade in the history of this podcast at least the history of the NFL oh he did it Gregie I mean just he's known for hyperbole baby Mr. Mr. Unlimited just in terms of

where he is at his career what it means for the Broncos certainly what it means for the Seahawks I just start where I've been over the last couple of years on this, that this was coming and that the Seahawks organization had a decision to make. Could they go with Russell Wilson or should they choose Pete Carroll? And all the 12s were in my mentions for the last couple of years. Oh, that's not about that. It's not about choosing one another. It's not some sort of power struggle.

That's not the issue. I really think it was. I think Russell made it clear he wanted out of Seattle a year ago, in January and he ended up getting out one year later and that ultimately Paul Allen, their owner died, Jody Allen, his sister took over, a bit of an ownership vacuum, and Pete Carroll filled it. He has more power than anyone. So I don't want to hear anything about, well, is Pete Carroll really going to go through a rebuild? Pete Carroll made this trade. He wanted to do the trade. He felt the value was worth it. There's a million avenues to go through here,

but he got such a good offer that he believed now. is the time, and I'm going to prove them all wrong. I'm 70 years old, but Debbie Hansa still thinks I'm hot. I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to try to compete this year and show that it's more about me, and I'm going to try to compete next year. It's not about rebuilding. It's about making the Seahawks better.

I think that's what he believes is going to happen here. That may be what he believes. And I don't disagree with you, Greg. I think that, you know, we knew a year ago that there was, this was the first chapter of quarterback discontentment that has spread across the league. like wildfire, and it's paid off. I mean, Russell Wilson is probably somewhere he much would rather be at this point. So I'm with you there. But if we're going to look at it from a pro Seahawks angle and see that Pete Carroll and, you know, you throw in John Schneider, who's

picking up the phone at least, got what they called a transformational deal. I don't see this is that. Two first, two seconds. And Shelby Harris, that's a nice player. Noah Fant, big yawn. And Drew Locke, a player that they were trying to get rid of essentially for the past two seasons, at least lodges their backup. I don't know how this transforms the Seahawks. If anything, I think it takes the legacy of Pete Carroll and John Schneider and puts it into a bit of a dark abyss because now you're suddenly, essentially, last year's Broncos. Good team, nice parts, looking for a quarterback. I think that is, to me, the biggest, the biggest big picture viewpoint for Seattle now

is that you went from having a Hall of Fame level quarterback who has probably anywhere between seven and 10, 11 years, who knows, left in the tank to joining that great underbelly of the NFL, the teams that are wandering, looking for their guy. And yet I also understand why they did it. And I think there could be some middle ground here, Greg, with it's not necessarily just like Pete Carroll was going to win or Russell Wilson was going to win and only one could survive and move forward. I think Seattle, in their internal conversations, would not be surprising to me if they were

like we are kind of caught in between right now. And we have this guy who's getting paid at a huge premium at quarterback. We have a roster that's not near Super Bowl ready. We've made some mistakes. We made that Jamal Adams trade. That didn't work out for us, giving away a lot of assets to get back a guy that has not been transformational on defense. Now we need to figure out what we want to do as an organization going forward.

Do we try to figure this out with Wilson or do we pull the trigger on a trade that allows us to reset everything? And I think there's something to be said for that beyond just Carol wins and Wilson loses or however you want to see this. I'm with you. And I'm someone that I feel I'm a little caught in the middle here that I don't think it was the worst trade ever for Seattle. Is it going to work out? Probably not because they don't have a quarterback. But they have to make the picks count.

I think what they got was significant. People were saying, oh, it was basically the same as Jamal Adams trade, two ones. Well, no. You got two ones, two twos. I like Noah Fant. I think that's a good young tight end and a player in Shelby Harris that can definitely help you. I don't care about Locke to me. That's almost a net negative.

But that's six players. That's not nothing. That's different than that. That's a reset. That's Jamal Adams trade. But I think they're going to reset and try to use some of these resources to either draft the quarterback at nine. They now have the number nine pick from Denver or draft the quarterback's, somewhere else or use some of this cap space and use some of the room to go get a

quarterback because I don't think they're going to try to rebuild. I think it says something about what they saw with Russell Wilson. And that to me is a big part of this equation. You said he's probably got seven good years left in him maybe. I have my doubts. He struggled in the second half of 2019. He was very up and down in 2020. He is not a top five quarterback to me.

And I think if they believed he was a top five quarterback that was going to age well, and he's someone that holds the ball forever and tries to rely on his athleticism to make those crazy plays, if they believed he was going to evolve and have the rest of his career like Aaron Rogers and Tom Brady did, I don't think they would make that trade. I don't think they quite believe that Russell Wilson was the reason why they've been good these last five or six years. So it's A, it's a power struggle, but B, it aligns with their actual scouting thoughts on Russell Wilson. I mean, that would be fortunate for the Seahawks, that it isn't a power struggle, turn into a bad decision for them.

It's an annoying process that he made it clear that he wanted out. But I think kind of like Aaron Rogers, you suck it up because he's Aaron Rogers. And I think if Russell Wilson was Aaron Rogers, he'd still be on the Seahawks, is my point. If he won the MVP the last two years, he's not an ex Seahawk. He hasn't been that great. I think that's part of the equation. That's all. We've talked about this before in the show.

I disagree with you heartily on that. I understand that he hasn't been as good in recent years. He also broke his finger last year or dislocated the finger, needed the surgery. So I don't know what to take out of the last half of last season, even though he even played better down the stretch. I still think he's a star. I think he's a superstar potentially still.

And that's why you give it up to Bronco's general manager, Broncos general manager, George Payton, because this is the swing. Obviously, they had their eyes on Aaron Rogers. and we're going to get to Rogers in a minute. That wasn't in play, and he picked up the phone and aggressively got the guy.

And I just think if you're the Broncos and your Broncos fans, you're over the moon right now because you've been, you got the Super Bowl 50 win with Peyton, but it's been really tough sledding a quarterback, and you know that roster is locked and loaded. And if Russell Wilson is more of the guy,

I think he is, Mark thinks he is. I still think he's an about. Above average, maybe borderline top 10 quarterback. I just don't think people put him because he's so famous in that top shelf. Like, no, he's not Justin Herbert. He's the third best quarterback in this division. He's the transformational part of this trade.

I think he is a potential still top five quarterbacking league personally, and you take him and you feel the biggest area of need on your team, and you are flying now. And don't be surprised when Von Miller now comes back to Denver because that's kind of how the league and sports seems to work now. People like to build super teams. Denver just became a legit contender in the AFC. And I don't care about anything else down the line. They are now, they have a chance to win the Super Bowl, a very real chance,

and it's a home run trade to me for that reason. I lived in Denver for years. I've got friends from Denver who are tweeting, and it's like, look at the reaction from both fan bases. I get that fans maybe can gloss over things, so can we at times. But it's like the Denver Broncos fan base reaction says it all to me. They were a pretender last year. And I, you know, we're not going down the Teddy Bridgewater Road,

but you did not have the quarterback in a division with Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert and Derek Carr, the best division in the AFC. You're now locked and loaded as a real contender. Somewhere Vic Fangio is saying, what the F? Because where was I when all this happens? They should rehire him as the defensive coordinator. That would be great. That doesn't happen in these days.

But if you're Nathaniel Hackett, I do wonder you're very close to Aaron Rogers that maybe he tipped off Nathaniel Hackett at some point and said, bro, this ain't happening. go chase something else because they were right on this Russell Wilson deal two hours after the Aaron Rogers News that was so-called secret. Well, if anything, though, I think that says that they were still hanging around and they put it out there through their insiders to make the PR of it all work better that one thing had nothing to do with the other.

I don't buy that. I do totally buy that they've been in these trade talks for the last two weeks, setting up this deal hoping to get it done and if it could get done great. But the timing of it clearly indicates they were still. holding out and seeing what was up where they were in Rogers. They didn't want to make Russell Wilson feel like he was the second option. Why should they? I think all these things can be true.

I agree with you guys that it's a home run for Denver. Like, you got to make this move. To me, it's just more he's Matthew Stafford. Like, I put him in that tier. And it's worth it to go get a Matthew Stafford when you're stuck in the middle or below the middle at quarterback, which they were. Like, I'm not doubt as much as I like Teddy. But there's more upside, I think, with Russell than even Stafford.

It's similar. It's in the same ballpark. He's younger also. You still got Cortland Sutton, Tim Patrick, Jerry Judy, Albert. I don't know where we settled on it. Albert O. Albert O'Berdo. I know, but I thought I had it, Okwebunam, but then they changed it.

Yeah, I don't. O'Keebuying. Just don't. Oh, my gosh. Just ruin the whole show. Javante Williams, that is an awesome offense. I don't know if the defense is going to be as good as the names look like because we just don't have Vic Vangio there anymore, but the offense should be incredible.

That's the point that the Broncos did not give away pieces that would strip away from Russell Wilson. It surprised me when I heard, oh, multiple first round picks and players. And when it ended up being Shelby Harris, no offense, and Drew Locke, I was like, oh, really? Because I could have swore Jerry Judy, maybe Giante Williams, maybe Sutton, one of those guys at least has to go back. So the fact now that Wilson goes and joins this offense that has remained intact after the deal, that makes it even more exciting if you're a Broncos fan. That's a good player, though. I mean, at times he's looked like.

But who's his quarterback? No, I get it. I'm just saying you can't. Is it Gino time, Gregi? To me, he is a starting defensive end. It was a first round pick for a reason with a ton of potential. He's not nothing. Like, to me, him and Giovante Williams, for instance, have a similar value.

The difference is he's on the fourth, what, the fourth year of his contract. Shelby Harris is a nice player. I'm with you guys, as much as I'm like, I'm not making the case for Seattle. I'm just trying to explain, I think, why it happened and why they thought it could make sense. And because of because of the way that they've run their organization, in the last handful of years, it would not surprise me if they figure some things out this offseason

and are in the mix even without wrestling. Well, how about this? In the mix, potentially, for Deshaun Watson. You got ammunition now finally to do that. In the mix, if you want to be spicy, go take Malik Willis at number nine. And don't go settle for a quarterback like a Drew Locke or fill in the blank

that automatically has the fan base asleep at the wheel. You cannot come out of this with a dull option under center. Bad timing, by the way, for Gino Smith to show his whole ass in that DUI arrest. Well, Pete Carroll said at the Combine that they were planning to bring him back, that they wanted him back. Although I have to admit, I can't imagine a Drew Locke Gino competition. So I think Russell leaving might have been Gino's gig.

Anybody happen to check out the police report on that Gino Smith arrest? It's a little worse than you might imagine. Anyway. I do quickly have just a little bit of doubts just about how Hackett is succeeded in the NFL. is with a quick passing timing offense where you get rid of the ball quickly. Plant those seeds and down, Gregi. All I'm saying is that's where he made his name,

whether it's in Buffalo, with Tyrod, or certainly with Aaron Rogers. And that's just not, that's the opposite of what Russell Wilson is. Well, he is a whole, like, they have tried to bring in West Coast style offensive coordinators and always the coordinator got blamed as a bad fit. Like, I just feel like Russell Wilson. We're going to stress about that?

Great. They adapt. But I'm just trying to, like, spin it forward to thinking about this season and what their offense is going to look like. And that's not a Russell Wilson that we've seen succeed. And I think that's what they tried to do with Shane Waldron. I mean, it's very similar in terms of the offense that they try to run. And he had some ups and down.

I mean, Nathaniel Hackett came to the razor's edge of becoming a hip-hop dance instructor. He strikes me as versatile. I think he can shit. He can move some things around in this offensive needs to. I think the big takeaway, at least from the studio right now, the Chris Wesleying podcast studio is Greg is insinuating that Russell Wilson might be Mr. Limited. No. In Denver.

Well, I think you've been saying something along those lines for a while. Not unlimited. I'm just saying there's this feeling that I don't see him rebranding that. That he's this, you know, transcendent top of his game guy. He has turned in 34. I'm excited, though. Every one of these AFC West games is going to be in prime time. Patrick Mahomes, Justin.

Herbert, Russell Wilson, and Derek R. Greg has this as like the Herschel Walker deal part two. That is not true. I completely think this is a win for an organization that for years we've been killing them. A, they had Russell Wilson in their building pre-draft and took Brock Osweiler instead. In a way, poetically, John Elway, you know, he's up in the sky spiritually. He's not I mean, he's not part of, he's not the day-to-day part of the organization, but probably still making like high, you know, seven figures. But they've got Russell Wilson back, the guy that beat them in the Super Bowl,

and this is a team that went for it in a division where had they not, they would have been dead fodder. I think it's win-win and the Broncos win more if you have to pick one. I'm not trying to take the other side. I'm saying... What percentage of Seahawks fans think that it is also a win for Seattle right now? No one. A team that just tweeted out the castaway meme

of Tom Hanks looking for Wilson, Volleyball. You know, we've been tracking this for many years. John Schneider's not getting this right now. We've been tracking this for many years. These 24-year-old social media intern running the team accounts. That boy or girl, has he ever seen Castaway? And Castaway Wilson floats away on the sea.

And Tom Hanks screams in agony. That was his only friend on the island. You literally gave away this Wilson. Right. So it just doesn't even work, like, logically. Plot-wise, it's a disastrous tweet because it's like you clearly have not even tracked how that film operated. You know what else is a disaster? Ricky, play P. Carroll at the Combine last week.

We have no intention of making any move there? I just, I like that we get to go to the Combine and hang out with our friends and eat steaks and everything and drink booze. But these interviews with the coaches and the GMs, I mean, there's so much smoke screen. And we're reporting on it. We're trying to sift through it. But they shot it down, like the idea of a train. Well, they said we have no intention. And they choose these words carefully.

And my old boss, Mike Florio, wrote about that. Like, that's the way of saying, that is the way of saying. And I don't know why they even bother that. Like, you can't say that I was lying before. Because we didn't have any intention. But that was a lie too. But someone else was coming. Right.

That still was a lot. They also did turn down the Washington commanders who reportedly were going to send high picks. over the next three years. Maybe a better deal in hold than this deal from Denver. But they didn't have a choice because Russell Wilson had a no trade clause. And Russell Wilson, I think ultimately chose the Denver Broncos over the Washington commanders. If they were getting better value, what do the Seahawks care about it? But Russell Wilson had a say in this.

And that's to his credit, to his agent's credit. Well, that also takes the shine off of Pete Carroll winning this power struggle. When it came down to maybe taking the lesser deal because Russell Wilson, and wife want to stay on what is essentially the West Coast to some degree. I think the Seahawks made a huge mistake not blowing. When you say rebuild, here's how they should have rebuilt. That's geography pop there. I like it.

Well, it's not the West Coast, but I mean, there's a mountain. To some degree. To some degree, closer than to Washington. They should have gotten rid of Carol and Schneider to start this off season, and they should have committed to Russell Wilson. If I was running the Seahawks, that's what I would have done. I'm not trying to. Well, you also would have released Russell Wilson out.

But yeah, you're not a Russell Wilson fan at the same time. My point is, once they already went down that road that they're keeping Carol and Schneider, it sort of, as Dan was saying, didn't make sense. As Carol was saying, it didn't make sense. What a time to be alive. Wow. All right. We have so much more to get to.

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Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. All right, we're back. Aaron Rogers. This is all, you know, dominoes. So the Broncos reportedly hot for Aaron Rogers, had the quarterback coach. Broncos did now as their head coach, and it seemed like a nice fit.

But Aaron Rogers decided to stay home. so Denver pivoted. Here's the details. Green Bay has agreed with the 38-year-old Rogers on a four-year extension worth $200 million, including $153 million in guaranteed money. Rap sheet reported Tuesday. The deal makes Rogers the highest paid player in NFL history

on an annual basis while also reducing his salary cap number or 2022. So the long saga that's built up forever, it feels like forever, but it's really been about a year and a half, comes to some type of clothes. Aaron Rogers, by the way, came out after the Russell Wilson story blew up. He got on Twitter and said, hey, hey, hey,

just so you know, the specifics of the contract monetary-wise, not accurate, but I'll say I'm happy to be in Green Bay, to which I say, Aaron Rogers. I didn't kill my wife. No, just I don't care. I don't care. All right. Ricky on fire.

I like the first one. Yeah, I think there was a lot more going on there. You actually thought that I wanted, I didn't kill my wife? Well, because you say that all the time. You always say that, so I thought it would be a nice tie-in, but the I don't care. Right. But I thought I made it clear on our instant message what I wanted, just that one line. Yeah, okay.

So you kind of, okay. I think she added to the show on some, well, she added to the overall show. The host doesn't like, I didn't kill my wife. Anyway, let's get back on track. Ricky, by the way, is not going to be with us next week. Ricky is going to be in Cancun during free agents. Well, that news passed like a buzzsaw through the studio prior to our kickoff here. This is like the fourth year in a row.

She's been on a tropical island during the off-season's most busy week today. You can't talk to me like that. It's International Women's Day today. Okay. I'm happy for you. I'm extremely jealous. It's fine. You don't appreciate women.

The best part was like, Erica, when I was trying to talk to her. I was kidding on the square a little bit. I was like, Erica, we want you for free agency. We want you in the studio. It's important. And she's like, no, you don't care who's behind the glass anyway. It's like, what does that mean? You're our producer, Ricky.

We love Gravedigger and Stapleton and the whole gang. But you're our producer. That's true. Yeah. No, I will send you guys a lot of ideas from the beach. By the way, Greg is disgusted about this. Yeah, he's told me not to go. But that was like three weeks ago.

You had a conversation. She mentioned it to you and you said, don't go. Yeah. And then what you do? Very defiant. I haven't gone yet, but it's the only time that we can go. Because Jet only has this week. We don't want to hear it.

This week. Doesn't matter. Those specifics for our show don't matter. I'm going to get my nails done. What if she proposes? Is that how it goes? I don't know. That's what it is.

Maybe. I thought you were going to be doing. Maybe. Here's the thing. You better come back with a. If you don't come back with a ring, if you come back with the ring, you're absolved. Off the case, yeah. If nobody's wearing a ring, it's going to be a major issue behind the scenes for the show.

And the upshot will be, we'll be upset, she'll be upset, and she'll go to Cancun again next year at this time. I mean, it has to be half a decade in a row. Well, I was going to try to do Cabo to see if I could, like, get any stories, you know, what breaks in the off season. We are beyond that topic. Anyway, he is back. Aaron Rogers, four years with the Packers. All's well, that ends well. He did play the game ultimately in a savvy manner,

even if he turned most of the public against him over the past 24 minutes. Well, he also called it at one point a categorical lie or mistruth that he was seeking to become the highest paid quarterback. I'm not going to listen or believe anything anyone says ever again at this point in this sport because that was absolute nonsense. this worked for him the same way things worked out for Russell Wilson. Be upset, be hyper-annoying,

and we'll tag along with your melodrama for a year plus until this thing caps essentially in Aaron Rogers' favor and the other dominant of falls that Devante Adams now sticks around as well on the tag. The tweet to me speaks to what was annoying about this whole process that Aaron Rogers just sent out. He said, reports about me signing a contract are inaccurate. Actually, no one reported.

that you signed the contract, said a contract was agreed to. So you're throwing in a falsity, you know, falsehood. And you've done that before. As are the supposed terms of the contract, I quote, signed. I'm very excited to be back. Where do you think those terms are coming from? Where do you think an agent is putting out, like, those terms to advertise what a great deal that he got? You think it's the team?

You think the team wants to advertise how much money they're paying you? No, they don't. We've redefined the quarterback market and paying you more than anyone's ever been. Frankly, they're embarrassed. They're going to have to answer to a lot of Packers shareholders, you know, who got that free sweet piece of paper and going to see that ticket. Ultimately, he probably was never going anywhere. And they used the Broncos well to maximize every bit of leverage this offseason.

And that's fine. All players do that. All agents do that. Some media members participated a little more actively than others. and really making the Broncos believable over the last week. But if you kind of notice, the big names really didn't, and I think that was telling. Is there any concern that, you know,

it talked about him going away and meditating and thinking for hours on end about the fact that maybe I'll just retire. Like, we've talked over and over about it. If your head is halfway, half in the space of I might walk away from the game. A year, I would have bought that. But I think after this last year, it was so clear he was all in. I think it was all bogus this whole time. I mean, I'm going off of what Ian was tweeting saying that there was serious consideration about all things on the table.

By one of them, I might leave the team that I'm now sticking around with saying how much I love Green Bay and all this other stuff. And ultimately, what it had come down to, money. They paid me $50 million a year, whatever it comes down to. So I am back until I'm 42 years old, unless I win another MVP and they annoy me. And then I'll cause some more ruckus in about a year or so. Don't rule it out. This is the person we're dealing with at this point. The one thing, the only thing you could say about Rogers, yes, he got everything he wanted in the end.

He's still on a loaded team. He's better paid than anyone else in the history of the sport. But I do think he did take a hit in public opinion over a lot of his behavior and his actions. In the past year. But not because of the contract. Some of it much, well, listen, there are a lot of people. Mark and I are among those people that had a lot of issues with Rogers before the fake. vaccine stuff went down just the way his general vibe and how he had kind of changed in some

ways in terms of how he how he was front facing with the public and it wasn't always flattering that it's all none of it matters ultimately and i don't care as timely lee jones said because he's under contract i don't care about the money he's sticking there devante adams is tagged and this is still a super bowl contender but a team that chokes in january and that's something else for another conversation and now they can operate this offseason with some clarity We don't know what the salary cap number is going to be. It's going to be less than the $46 million he was scheduled for, presumably a lot less. And they're going to franchise tag.

They did franchise tag Devante Adams. And so you're putting that on that contract negotiation. I think it's going to be very difficult, near impossible, to figure out over the next four or five months. He could hold out. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him until about the third week of training camp, something like that. just because that's how things go. Zadaria Smith, Preston Smith, Jaya Alexander might get a contract extension.

The Smith brothers could get cut. Like a lot's going to be happening with Green Bay in the next week. Well, that said, if we want to say that shareholders with their piece of paper on the wall are going to be slightly miffed that the front office pulled the trigger on this. That was a joke. They're all happy. I mean, the other option is now you're sitting there with Jordan Love. You could maybe trade Jordan Love away to someone at this point, too.

Yeah, at 20 cents on the dollar. Ricky wanted to come in with a point. Should we let her come in? Of course. It's National Women's Day, so, I mean, of course. And the chance that they're still going to ring on. International, of all countries. Okay, so now I remember why I included the I didn't kill my wife,

not only because you say it all the time, pre-show, which, you know. I screamed it at the holiday party. Yeah, you scream it a lot, actually. Next to my wife. But then I was thinking because when we were talking about that, Aaron Rogers tweeted this because I think he was really pissed that the Russell Wilson News had taken over every channel. So I think in that little minute

where he's like, I didn't kill my wife and he's like, I don't care. I was putting that bit together, number one to the tie-in, number two, because it's like Aaron Rogers, no one cares that you tweeted that. So I just wanted to defend myself. All right, Erica.

It's like an unsolved mysteries update right there, very, you know. I see what you're saying. Thank you. It's like a comedian explaining a joke he never said. That's exactly right, Greg. so glad you're a comedian and know exactly what's going all the time all right actually keep going i'm enjoying that uh so there you go rogers uh and yes jordan love is a former first round

pick and people are like i saw on twitter some a couple things that i didn't like on twitter one oh aaron rogers he only cares about money now they won't be able to build her shut up i mean this is a business he got paid he deserves it he's one of the top five quarterbacks ever and he's off back-to-back MVPs. They'll make it work. Have you noticed the salary cap? It's way up this year. Two, people say, oh, the Packers, they blew it on Jordan Love.

Yeah, I guess so. They did. They took a first round pick at quarterback a couple of years ago, and now it looks like he's never going to play a meaningful snap for them. But you know what? If the reason it didn't work out is because Aaron Rogers won two straight MVPs, hey, you live with it and you move on. I totally agree with you.

And Brian Gutakunst has made incredible draft picks. That's the thing. Like, go through the rest of that first round. There's a lot of wasted picks. None of them got Aaron Rogers as fired up as Jordan loved to go win a couple MVPs. And if they can trade them, maybe you recoup a third round pick. I like the idea that the love pick, and there's actually a lot of logic to it,

made Rogers better. Yeah, I think Goody is a master. I don't think you're hurt. I don't think he's like a master of psychological warfare. It changed. I mean, they still lost, you know, two straight January playoffs. games I mean everyone like wants to get on them oh they could have taken this or that okay and they of course choose the best players this is just a sample here are the the rest of the

first round after jordan love okay the other first round picks that were taken uh behind jordan love jordan brooks Patrick queen Isaiah Wilson Noah Igbenogany Jeff gladney and Clyde edward's hilaire there you go I'm just saying it needs to be said it's like come on I mean, it gave us one of the more annoying dramas of our entire lifetime. I mean, among others. Two of those guys aren't even in the league anymore, which is that's hard to do for a first round pick after two years. That's a tough thing.

All right. In other news. So those are the two huge stories, two of the biggest stories we'll get all year happening in the same morning. So there you go. Big story yesterday that now feels like it happened about 10 years ago. Falcons wide receiver Calvin Ridley has been suspended for at least the 2022 season after gambling on games during the.

the NFL released a statement on Monday announcing the suspension saying that the receiver gambled on games over a five-day stretch in November 2021 when he was on the non-football injury list to address his mental health. Ridley, as you may remember, stepped away from the NFL in late October saying he needed to get his personal life in order. Ridley tweeted on Monday that he bet $1,500 total. And, quote, I don't have a gambling problem. And, you know, this is a thorny issue for the league because on one hand, yes, people that are going hard and saying Calvin Ridley's getting screwed here and it shouldn't be this harsh a penalty. I can't get behind that because at the end of the day, the game and the integrity of the game, I'll put air quotes on it if you want. That's, that's tantamont.

That's so important to the league. And so, yes, if a player is best. on the NFL, you have to come down hard on the guy. But there is this other part of it that gambling, the NFL is now opened up its gates to gambling, and now it's all around the league. And it's fair to wonder if there could be more of this because now sports betting is no longer separated by a wall.

It's legal. It's legal. It was legal in the past, and now it's legal. So that's pretty different. And yet my response to everyone pointing out the NFL's hypocrisy, which exists was, okay, so what's your solution? Like, what would you do? Right. Not suspend them? And so I guess they're saying, like, have less of a suspension.

But every time in the history of the NFL, a player's been caught gambling on a game, they've suspended them for a season. Going back 60 years. One of the biggest stories in NFL history, and it's one that I always. think like, wow, that story would be crazy now is when Paul Horning and Alex Karras got suspended for a year. That was the MVP of the league, Paul Horning, in an all-pro defensive tackle. So it would be the equivalent of, you know, Aaron Rogers and Aaron Donald getting suspended for a year for gambling. They got suspended. Some guy you never heard of Josh Shaw got suspended a couple years ago. Remember that? Never played again. It's like, what do they get? What's the op? I guess what's

the alternative? You can kill them for getting into business with gambling, period. But that's been going on now for a season and that's not going away. Yeah, they strike me as two separate things because, yeah, we can critique the NFL's lust for money and their lust to get into bed with gambling houses left and right and do what they're doing with fantasy football and all that else. Secondly, to your point, back in 1963 is when Horning and Karras were suspended, it has been crystal clear as day, two players, coaches, and league employees that you don't gamble on football. It's like there's no wiggle room there.

No in any stadium in the league. It's plastered on the walls. Like, you cannot do it. They're taking symposiums. They're teaching players. Like, I don't care if you ever did this in the past. You don't do it here. It's like you have a special position inside the NFL.

You don't do it here. And so I think, Greg, you nailed it. Like, what is, is there a middle ground where, like, we allow players to bet on this or that? No, because then it creates all sort of visual. They're already tweeting out plays of him, Calvin Ridley, where it looked like he's running in reverse and doing all this stuff to, you know, I agree that it's stupid, but it's like, why, even put that out there as a possibility? Yeah, I'm wondering if the league's plan internally is make an example of Ridley

and then step up our communications with the players on why this will never fly and can never fly. But other than that, there's not much of the NFL. And they caught him. It's not like he's the first player to ever gamble on sports. And there haven't been many that have been caught. But they caught him, you know, because he did it through a league partner who reportedly, reported it to, you know, an agency within the league that investigated, and that was it.

So it shows that you can get caught. I do think it opens up... You can get caught, Greg. It opens up some questions for people that work within, that close to the league. Like, players can't bet, right? And league employees can't bet, but journalists can bet, and journalists have a ton of information. And I think it's a little bit of a Pandora's box that like partners of the NFL at every other media company are freely allowed to bet. And they have a ton of information.

And then there's a lot of other ancillary people who are close to those companies or that work with NFL teams and also have information. I can think of a lot of different examples of ways that you could profit. And I do think that's something worth thinking about because in the UK and places where they've embraced gambling at. stadiums wholeheartedly. They've actually amped up regulations after having a lot of problems in the last decade or so. And I think that you don't want to go down that road. I think the other place that it looks really off-putting to people, and I agree with this, is that we're still in a really weird place with issues like domestic violence, where a player gets four or six games, and then this was an automatic, strict one-year indefinite ban,

more than a year potentially. I think that looks weird to people because it's like, is what he did worse than that? No. But the NFL's been in a muddled place with their punishments and handing down authoritative punishments for years on that front. Do you want to know what the bets were?

Yeah, I mean, that was the thing. He definitely... This is right I thought Greg probably got... These are bad bets. Yeah. He definitely confirmed that he wasn't like a gambling addict. He placed multi-legged parlay bets involving three, five, and eight-game.

Greg, an eight-game parlay. That is out of this world, isn't it, within the industry? I mean, I don't know what are the chances I'm hitting on that? There are certain types, spice racks, one of them, who are all about parleyes. And you do. Eight? But you wouldn't be doing the way he did it, which is just, like, put down three-bet. These types of people are doing, like, you know, a hundred different parleyes hoping to get a couple hits and they do different variations on it.

But, yeah, it probably didn't make a lot of sense. And then I saw some people on Twitter with the old Pete Rose defense. Well, he never bet against the Falcons. Just can't do it. You can't do it. It's not a, it's a murky issue, and it's getting more complicated seemingly by the month with the NFL, but really. I do think it's interesting, though. Like, you can be an insider.

You can be anything and you can bet. I mean, I sense Greg is sort of turning green with jealousy that in any other, you know, media house that he worked for, he could be doing this. We can't even step inside a sports book. No. As NFL employees during an NFL senior. No. Like, for instance, we just had the comment. We'll talk to Shick about it soon.

you know about three hours all the times were really fast right and we found out during the combine that and you probably could have found this out in a totally legal normal way previously if you if you had your ears on the ground that they had changed the turf there in 2020 and so it was a fast track it was a different track like imagine like if you had that information you you could have changed your life and that i did i think there is some things to that that's going on with this gambling stuff that is problematic. All right. Let's move on. We're going to speed up here. We've got Chucky coming up, as we said. There's a report out there.

ESPN's David Newton reported that the Panthers would, quote, consider trading Christian McCaffrey for a first round pick and another player without a big salary cap number. This would be in contrast to Carolina's vision of McCaffrey last off season when they gave the star running back a contract extension. But then McCaffrey went and missed the past two years, more or less,

23 games over two seasons with a variety of injuries. It basically shattered Carolina's offense. And yet, boys, I do think, and I know everybody says, Mark, it's bad business to dedicate a lot of money to the running back position and all that. If the deal was right and Carolina was, more in a place of I want to get out from under this contract, and you could kind of work them down a little bit in terms of what they're asking prices. I think McCaffrey at 26 years old could be a huge guy that you could bring on a bounce back year. There's risk, obviously,

on the contract and the injuries, but this dude is super talented and it can help transform an office. He is super talented when he's on the field. He's missed 23 games over the past two seasons. He costs a ton of money. So for me, it's not like, hey, this is our version of getting Matthew Stafford. I think if you're the Panthers, you, if you're Matt Rule, you inherited some of this and they are a team and they keep failing at this quest that are heat-seeking a franchise quarterback. They have been mentioned in the Deshawn Watson scenario as well.

It's like their idea of freeing up money makes sense for what might be a bigger move down the stretch. I would not really, if I were a fan of a team, hope that they would chase after Christian McCaffrey. I saw that you were into that, Dan. I'm not as into it as you are. I think you could draft a running back and find it that position. My point was I know everyone, because I understand,

and I'm not saying this is you, Mark, but everyone's kind of now bought into this idea that running back doesn't have a lot of value and all that. But I think that McCaffrey is one of those exceptions that if you get him healthy, he could transform an offense. I think he is a Hall of Fame talent, as you've seen with him having a 2000-1,000-season.

He's still young. There is risk involved, but I wouldn't look past it if the guy was floated in my direction. It's like his durability as big of a red flag as Siquon Barkley is way. of being out there. Well, yeah, he's, I mean, I would definitely rather have Christian McCaffrey. I'd rather give up a two, let's say, for McCaffrey than anything for Sequin.

But he's also the example of why you don't give the money to running backs, because he's played 10 games in the last two years. I mean, it's totally hamstrung their team. Right. If your people think or you decide that his body's breaking down, obviously you run from it, or if you see it's more of been a little bit of bad luck that he's running to a back-to-back years, then maybe you're talking like a Super Bowl contender where this is a tipping point move and he comes in and lights up the office.

They're putting it out there. I mean, just the fact this report exists to me was very telling and interesting that they aren't looking to unload him, just like the Seahawks aren't looking to unload Russell Wilson, but they would consider if they got a first and another player. I don't think you're getting a first and another player for Christian McCaffrey,

but could you get a two? Could you get a two and another player? Could you get a late first, maybe? like a future late first maybe i could see that happening and it just indicates that they are open to trading christian mcalfrey and that it very well could could happen by the way i just googled christian mcalfrey looking for the original report do you know what the first uh headline that came up for christian mcalfrey was no olivia culpo can't wait for christian mcalfrey reunion as trade rumors swore i i was not aware that he is dating a swimsuit uh sports illustrated swimsuit

cover star who's currently overseas for Paris Fashion Week and she can't wait to get back and she says her guy is hot yeah I mean she he did well he's done very well she's got to spend a lot of time with him because he's not on the field very often whatever the list is whatever category she falls into good job I thought I had never felt older than when I bruised my ribs sledding up at Big Bear a couple weeks ago but actually that last little jazz that I had about Olivia Colpe. That made me feel older. Colpe.

Copa. Copa. Copo. All right. In other news, the Dallas Cowboys. Listen, the salary cap's quite large and rotun these days, but the Cowboys are proof that you still can run into issues at the cap. And they're working hard to try to get under the cap

and prepare themselves for a new league year. So the news that came out over the weekend, I believe, was that the team is ready to part ways with Hamari Cooper. actively seeking out a trade partner so far, according to reports, that market's not so hot, by the way. So I don't know what that says about Amaric Cooper or more about his price tag, which I believe is north of $20 million. So they might end up releasing Cooper. They've also restructured contracts with, but a drum roll, please. I wrote it down somewhere.

I believe it is Dak. Jack Prescott, Zach Martin. Thank you. Dak Prescott and Zach Martin to get under the cap. And they also, and we're going to get to all the players that are tagged. But Dalton Schultz, their tight end also got tagged. So the Cowboys doing a lot of work restructuring with stars. I bet they wish they had some flexibility with Ezekiel Elliott,

but that's neither here nor there. Right. He's part of the reason they're in this mess. But I'm surprised they're going to give up on Cooper. Cooper is essentially an ex-Cowboy at this point. Is this a matter if he's traded or cut? I'm a little surprised that a team wouldn't give up a fifth round pick or, something to take on that contract, which doesn't seem that crazy.

It's interesting two teams have soured on them. But the fact that they franchise tag Dalton Schultz was really interesting that they're picking Schultz trying to bring Gallup back, get rid of Cooper, and then they asked to Marcus Lawrence to take a pay cut, which is usually a sign that they're ready to cut you. And he, quote, politely declined, which I think was a smart move. That's the way to do it. Be polite about it. He's amazing.

What's kind of going on? I know he's set to earn $19 million, but, you know. Like, he is the best player on the Cowboys over the last five years on balance, along with Dak Prescott and was still playing at a really high level. So he should decline because when you get cut at this time of year, you're doing Lawrence or Cooper a favor. Cooper is going to do better as a free agent than he would that he had with the Cowboys. They've talked about Tyron Smith, Lyle Collins,

Blake Jarwin, his other guys who could take haircuts to use a Danism, right? That's interesting jargon. That is. I mean, it's like they're trying to open up that cap money. And I just wonder with Amari Cooper because Jerry Jones had, you know, some ill words for him during and after the season. Maybe, you know, this is the second team that soured on him and willing to part ways. Yeah. That he sees himself as a true number one.

He came across pretty well, I thought, on hard knocks. I didn't. There are whispers that the lions are going to go hard after wide receiver at in free agency. So that's. But like Amari Cooper on the lions. I don't like it at all, but I, you know, they would. Just keep to Marcus Lawrence and let someone else pay Randy Gregory if that's what it comes down to they're in sneaky cap hell that's what it seems like our guy you know kyle brant who

who's amazing on good morning football he was sick of all the all the attention kind of that we all shower on the cowboys week after week but i got to say they are the most interesting team just in terms of the players that are available and the moves they have to make this off season no other team has three guys that were in my top 30 and then now two more guys that they might be cutting that could be in my top 15 it's just they have more going on right now i i believe than any team in the You may recall, Greg, last spring, I had an impassioned monologue about being burnt out on the Cowboys. We've all been there. Yes, we've all been there.

And it's Kyle's turn to be burned out. But at least this year, the Cowboys are coming off being relevant, even if the playoffs went off in embarrassing fashion for the erstwhile America's team. Yeah, I don't consider them America's team. Although they represent a lot of things that America seems to want to be represented by at the moment. I had a whole segment I was ready for an NFL now about the Cowboys blown up. Well, that's smart, Greg. You go to the network and say, I want to talk cowboys. They'll roll out the carpet for you to say whatever you feel.

In other news, the Patriots, I don't, you know, this one has got my radar paying a little bit, Greg, that the Patriots have one of the best young cornerbacks in the league and J.C. Jackson, a guy smack in the middle of his prime. And they don't feel like, it doesn't seem like they want to do business with them. They don't hit him with the franchise tag. It doesn't seem like there's any real conversations between player and team. So it looks like he's going to hit the open market. someone's going to pay him a ton of money. And I'll say this as a fan of a team that's gotten burned by a free agent deals for cornerbacks in the past.

I'm always wary of them. Tremaine Johnson comes to mind. Durel Rivas Part 2 comes to mind. But at the same time, maybe there's something to be said for Belichick losing a little bit of the touch a little bit here. Doesn't this feel like somebody to keep in the building, Rosenthal? Well, this is very consistent with his previous touch. You know, he likes nothing more than saying goodbye to great players that.

leave and that annoys the Patriots fan base. Asante Samuel, very similar situation. Richard Seymour? It doesn't make sense to me because this guy, J.C. Jackson, has improved every single season of his career. He's had more interceptions since he entered the league than any other player in the entire NFL. He's up there in terms of historically the most interceptions

in the first four years, and he's become a complete corner. So it surprises me. They didn't want to tag him. And he is going to be number two on the 101, the post-tag 101, and I guess he's gone. You would love this article, Dan, in the Boston Sports Journal, about other teams wondering what's going on in New England, that they barely have anyone in their front office anymore

and that they barely have any coaches. Like right now, Joe Judge is working with quarterbacks and Patricia's going to do the offensive line, and Belichick might be calling plays. What is going on? They've had one of the smaller coaching staffs for years and years, and they keep getting plucked, but it's like... Now it's a thing.

Now I'll say it's a... Hey, here... And along those similar lines, Bert Breer wrote for usai.com, and I did see this, Greg. I don't know if you saw this. That there was a general vibe at the combine. Agents told him that they heard

that the Patriots group might have been a bit disconnected with reality, it was the quote. And the reason they were saying that is they were going and connecting with agents to me like, listen, we're not going to pay you near the money you want your guy to have.

But if the market craters come back to us, we'll give you a short-term deal. And what's disconnected from reality for the Patriots, according to some of these people, is that, yes, that logic was sound when you had Tom Brady and you were going to the Super Bowl every year and it was Belichick and Brady.

But now the teams that can say those things are like the chiefs and like the bills. It's not the Patriots anymore because the Patriots aren't special anymore. And that was a thing being buzzed about at the combat. I mean, the only thing is that last off season, they went wild. And there was money being spent.

But, you know, maybe if you've been in a certain mindset for 20-plus years, it's taking you a little bit of time to shake into what would be reality. And they're in a very different one. Right. One of the reasons they can't spend is because they have like $11 million guaranteed for Jonu Smith this year, who they'd love to not have on their roster. And yet they don't know. It's almost like you shouldn't have paid a ton of money for two tight ends in the same free agency.

Right. But they got one right and they got a lot right in those free agent moves. they were aggressive. They have a new GM director of player personnel, Matt Groh, Al Groh's son, who's been in college scouting. That's a big jump to go from college to suddenly, like, you're kind of the GM. It's basically Belichick. They cut Kyle Van Noy.

They're probably not bringing back down to Hightower. Devin McCordy might not be back. Like, it is going to be a very different looking. Reportedly interested in Robbie Anderson. I don't know if that guy's the solution to your wide receiver. Does he vibe Patriot Way from what we know about Robbie Anderson? Speed, I like that. Matt Ruhl.

You know, you always say like Bill Parcells, Bill Pell-Chuk, they're my heroes. I like watch the Giants team. Hey, how about you, you know, live out a real life, like, dream and trade with one of them? You know, just give us Robbie Anderson. For nothing. He didn't, I think, played 17 games last year and didn't have a 100-yard game. But he had bad quarter-off. I mean, there were issues there, yeah.

All right. Finally, time for franchise tag news and notes presented by Upwork, where you can. and build a team that will build your business. Learn more at Upwork.com. Here are the players that were tagged and the boys help me out if I'm missing anyone here. Packers wide receiver, Devante Adams, Buck's wide receiver Chris Godwin,

Chiefs tackle Orlando Brown, Bengals cornerback Jesse Bates, tight end run here, Dalton Schultz of the Cowboys, Mike Deseki of the Dolphins, David Njoku of the Brownies, and tackle Cam Robinson of the Jaguars. Anything jump out? to you there. Godwin, by the way, they were trying to hammer out a long-term deal right up to

the deadline today. But it didn't happen, but he is not going anywhere. He'll be back with the bucks, whoever the quarterback is. The tight end signing, the tiny end tags to me make sense. They're under 11 million. And Dalton Schultz, I like them keeping him. If you're Mike McDaniel and you're going to bring a Niners-type offense, the tight-end position matters. Mike Asicki has been a valuable piece for them. Nojoku, I don't totally, I think they were going to He's the worst player that was franchised. They were going to do, they were going to keep. I think wanted to keep him, but if they do, and there's reports that they want to keep him and Hooper. And that puts you about 25 millions into those two tight ends, which I think the

ultimate move is they probably cut Hooper after the June 1 designation, because otherwise he's got a ton of dead money attached to him or try to trade him. You could do that now, though. You get the money later if you don't want to. I don't know how much, like, a interest there is. See how it goes. No big surprises. Five of the top 10 in the 101 are gone. I think the biggest surprise that J.C. Jackson didn't get tagged. And then the Saints, you know, have Marcus Williams, their safety, who they love, and Tehran Armstead, and because of their cap situation, at least Bartley, they didn't tag either one of them.

It would have been a second straight tag for Williams, so you've got to pay more, and that's a lot for a safety. Bring all those guys, Robert Sal. A little bit of a risk. Armstead will be number one on the 101. Someone's going to pay him huge. And Williams, there's a lot of great safeties out there, but he's right at the top of the list.

Mark, do you want to feel old? Why not? I'll feel old as well. Okay. When we, the salary cap was set officially at $208.2 million per team. You and I started at this company in 2010. That was an uncapped year when the owners opted out of the CBA. 2011, the first year we were at the company with a salary cap, it was $120.4 million.

Well, it tells you that, you know, football. $70 million higher now. Football is a money magnet. None of it has trickled down to us, but it has gone elsewhere. Trickle-down economics have not included inside these walls, necessarily. Greg, you take it from there. I don't know what to say about all this. I mean, I would never have expected it to trickle down that salary cap.

That was Franchise Tag News and Notes, presented by Upwork, the world's work marketplace. Learn more at Upwork.com. Carlton Davis, a free agent, by the way, because they couldn't sign Godwin. I think that's why they were trying so hard so that they could tag Davis and sign Godwin, and now Davis is going to be making a lot of money. Brian Jensen, they have two, like, super high paid wide receivers and no quarterback. Ba, bang. Before we take a break, let's hit 8 o'clock to light.

Mike Williams gets paid by the Chargers. It's a three-year-60 million dollar contract mark. You like the deal. Williams is a field stretcher. Playmaker. Absolutely. He was a tag candidate. You don't f*** with Justin Herbert.

Oh, look at this guy. That was surprising. He's got some buzz and some heat. Matt Stafford could get up to $45 million a year. Greg, is that too rich for the Super Bowl champion? It's just what it's going to be for all the quarterbacks. It's what Russell Wilson is going to make too very soon. By the way.

Yes, win a Super Bowl, folks. It will get you a raise. Brian Greasy is going from the Monday Night Football Booth to the 49ers, joining their coaching staff. Tough sitch for the old MNF team. Well, they never seem to be in the winning column from a point of public perception. But Greasy and Shanahan are old friends. And I know that Greggie has a theory around this connection.

He was a teammate of Tom Brady's at Michigan. Oh, it's like, oh, hey, by the way, you probably don't feel good about your current job if you're willing to take a 700% pay cut to go become a quarterback coach, like for a much harder job. Hold off on those sandwiches. Tommy's coming back. Evon Miller, he said he wants to go back to Denver, potentially, and he will now because Russell Wilson's quarterback, and Jack Doyle retires. Really nice working in my career for the tight end out of Indiana, originally nine years

with the cults, I believe. The rest of that tight end group in Indianapolis right now has about 32 catches for like 180 yards combined between six people. A lot of tight ends in free agency, Moe Allie Cox, Ingram, Gronk, O.J. Howard, Ertz, Jared, cook. There's some Uzama. Gronk and Carson Wentz. I don't love the sound of that tandem. All right, there you go. There is a very beefy news.

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Uh-oh. Is it? Oh, my God. Is that Nick Shook's music? Let's welcome him in. The Man, the Myth, the Legend from Cleveland, Ohio. The Pipe. He's known by some.

all the rest, Mr. Nick Shook. Welcome back to the Around the NFL podcast, buddy. Hey, guys. How are you doing? Great. How are you? I'm fantastic. I'm standing right now in case you couldn't tell because, you know, standing desks are good for your health. And, um, yeah. Well, you're a mountain. You're a mountain of a man. So, like, some people you can't tell.

I mean, you were in that same room with all the bench press guys at the Combine. Did anyone ask the pipe for, for any advice how to both up? Considering, considering, like, on receiver day and a few other days, 75% of guys just said they were willingly not benching and they were going to bench their pro day. No, nobody else was there. And, you know, we've been trying to figure this out for two years now. Why did Shook go from NFL.com to a dream job for his boyhood team,

the Browns, pivot back to NFL.com. You know, you could start reading between the lines that the Browns weren't comfortable with Shook being more impressive physically than anyone on the team. That checks out. I mean, I can't confirm or deny that, but that plays. All right, here we go, Shook. You did it. You've done it, Nick.

You're a rising star at the media, NFL media, and you have the 2022 All Combine team, which is great IP. Great IP. You know, like when I went and I got the power rings, you know what I said? I'm getting the power rings because I know what it is. It's great IP. Who cares who's writing it, but you want to be the one writing it

because then that leads to opportunity. All Combine team, I mean, that's IP. I mean, it's just like, that actually happened on our show, but okay. keep going all right mark hang in there buddy so you have the all combine team listen mark i've talked to you about this before you can grab some ip there's ip to be had out there i think the issue is a raging sense of apathy um you know burning inside of me towards written stuff on our site i applaud personal foul ruffing the cessler you're rough yourself if somebody hears that

upstairs come come get me all right here we go shook you do you did it the all combine team you broke it down you were an indie and you have what looks to be a very interesting group of college prospects i guess let's start at the quarterback position where you had to make a decision who is the all combine quarterback a lot of people are into this malik willis fellow uh from liberty especially after his incident after outside st elmo where he helped the vagrant man uh with some clothing that was very nice that was malik willis correct yes it was Nailed it. That's correct.

Nailed it. But you have Kenny Pickett as your guy, even though he has those tiny, tiny doll hands. Yeah, the tiny hands that dominated the conversation about him leading up to his workout and his measurement, tied with some of the smallest hands,

probably the last 15 years, eight and a half inches was the measurement. But, you know, he put that to the side when he got on the field. And a lot of this team, I think, is built on a combination of measurements, using the next gen stats overall draft score,

which takes in production in college and also measurements, gives them an aggregate score. And then also really for me, it's the on-field workout, you know, sitting up there in Lucasoil Stadium and kind of seeing if guys will separate themselves with their play. And Kenny Pickett didn't necessarily look like an elite quarterback of the future, but what he was was calm, composed, consistently accurate, looked like he was mentally ready for the moment and did a good job.

He did everything you really expected of him and asked of him. He didn't wow you with a massive arm or anything, but he hit throws of significant distance with accuracy, and he never looked like the situation was too high pressure for him. So that's why he ended up on my list. It's not the best quarterback class. We already know this. Malik Willis ended up being an honorable mention of my group, but I liked what I saw enough out of Kenny Pickett to see him get drafted somewhere in the first round,

just certainly not somebody I would necessarily trade up to the top three to select. But, Shook, I'm trying to think if I watched anything that drew more audible gas from the Lucas Oil Stadium crowd than Malik Willis's deep shots downfield. Yeah, and he had Chris Olaave out there to chase them down, which I think the gasps were about 60% Olaave, 40% Willis. Look, everybody loves the deep ball, right? And it looks good on TV, and it looks good to everybody sitting in the stands. And when it's completed, it's very pretty, you know?

Big arm, big opportunity for him to show off that arm. There are some other questions that he's got to answer. I think a team's going to try to maybe potentially be seen as a reach when they take him. But the physical tools are there. It's just a matter of consistency for him. him and experience somebody that maybe you put on the bench in year one and eventually he ends up being a productive player and we could all be wrong a few years from now and be like why didn't that guy go number one overall or number two wherever but right now you know that's all

we really anybody curious by the way who has the smallest hands in the current NFL landscape among starting quarterbacks go ahead goff goff's not big he's nine he's tied to tannahill and burrow the smallest hands he's kind of a fringy starter or tasem hill at eight and three quarters inches So he's bigger. So Pickett would go. That trailed borough, though, all last year, too. But Pickett played in Pittsburgh. That's the thing is, like, in theory,

that the only time that this would really be a factor is, like, bad weather games or rainy games. You know who has the biggest hands amongst any starter? I go Lamar Jackson. Ricky. Mr. Mr. Unlimited.

Denver Broncos' quarterback Russell Wilson. I like that. Nice. I don't buy that these quarterbacks are going to fall, and I know that we're talking combine here. But it makes sense to me that Malik Willis would just like rear back and not worry about timing and just decide to throw the ball as far as he could just to like show off because that's what sells. Like every year I feel like if at this point in the process you just did the over unders in Vegas and said all the top quarterbacks are going to go higher than you expect, you would be a rich man right now. And Desmond Ritter to me seemed like he checked a lot of boxes as a guy who improved a ton was extremely athletic.

He can play quarterback. Everyone likes his leadership. And ultimately, like, these three guys don't seem that different than other guys that get taken in the first round. They all feel like first rounders, to me are close to it. Yeah, I put Ritter in, as my honorable mention, behind Malik Willis because I liked what I saw out of him. He had a couple accuracy issues, but for the most part, the size and everything, it all plays out. I mean, it makes sense. It's just a matter of, I don't know how much teams value him.

He looked good to me. He didn't look great, but he looked good among other good quarterback. Wait, you're sitting in the crowd, though. You're not watching on TV. You're there. Yeah. Look at that. That's what he does.

I'm telling you. Oh, I'm in the suite, baby. You know, fancy living. You're at Lucas Oil. You're doing it, ground floor. Anyway, hey, how about this? So the next gen stats draft score. You like that, by the way?

You like the next gen draft score thing? Oh, yeah. I love any next gen innovation. I know you do. That's more IP, Shook. Listen, Mark. Are you making these up on your own? No, they're from a computer.

Okay. Shook, you have. Correct me, if I'm wrong. and NFL.com, a next-gen stats column as well, right? Yeah, during the season, it's position power rankings, yes. Listen to that, Mark. I have a column, too. I just am acknowledging total apathy towards the product.

Positional power rankings with the next gen's high-in, bang. I couldn't be happy for what you're accomplishing, but that doesn't mean that it's what I care about on any level at this age in my life. What do you care about? That's a whole different topic. Why, I mean, we don't, that's nothing to do with the combine. Shucky, how about this? So I saw you have there because I'm fascinated by this man.

He's connected to the Jets a lot, Notre Dame safety. Kyle Hamilton. He had a 90 score best among safeties. Maybe he didn't run as fast as some teams would have hope. But overall, the guy's a complete package. And again, it's the tape that matters more than anything. And he was a star for the fight in Irish. But I want to focus on the running backs here because you have a running back,

Breeze Hall out of Iowa State. He posted a 99 next-gen stat score, one of just six running backs to do. that since NextGen had a score, I think, going back to 2003. I did reach out to Shook privately on Texas. Who are the other running backs? I read your excellent piece, and you mentioned that there were five others, but you didn't have who they were. But here are the names, Najee Harris, first round pick, big time player with the Steelers

last year, Travis Aetian, who hasn't played yet, but a first round pick for the Jags, Sequin, Derek Henry, Reggie Bush. So is this guy, Breeze Hall, I mean, it sounds like, based on his skill set, this could be an instant star. Is that how you feel about him? Well, I think that his workout backed up what we saw on the tape, which is a three down back. I can get the job done on first and second down on the ground and can catch passes out of the backfield. He's got soft hands. And if you were concerned about his speed, I ran a 4-3-940. So everything's there. Total package in terms of measurables, workout, everything else. He did all of his past catching drills well. There

was only one mistake. He ran a Texas route and had a little bit of a stumble. It came back and ran it a second time and did it flawlessly. So everything that you expect from him, you saw him on the do everything well. He's going to be the first running back off the board. And he could be a fit for a team like the Jets. I had four other teams listed there, Miami being one, since they need a guy that they can rely on on every down as well to jumpstart that running game.

But I think whatever team drafts him is going to be happy to have him. He's going to be able to be a workhorse and a guy that can help you in every situation. I was very annoyed to see Traylon Burks not perform up to what, you know, people thought he might. He had a disappointing comment. He keeps getting put in the loser columns. What's his background of his position in school? wide receiver. He is Arkansas. He came out in like absolutely. He's the one that was wrestling

pigs. Remember we talked about him with Lance Zeerling? But you do like Sky Moore, who is, you know, maybe coming a little bit more of a dark horse candidate. I lost to a girl in wrestling. That is not current. Shook your comments on Skymore. I know you put him in your honorables. Yes, I did. You know, I agree with the sentiment on Berks. I thought I wanted him to come out and actually do some eye-popping things in the workout. And he just didn't. He didn't really day not to me, but Skymore certainly did. This is a guy who dominated in the mid-American conference in the passing game for Western Michigan. And you always think mid-major football does that translate. Well, then you put him on the field with guys from Power 5 schools, and he

stood out. He was smooth. He was under control. He did everything correct. Caught passes in every depth and every situation, flash the ability to make a highlight play. I think he's a guy that doesn't last pass round two, and whoever drafts him is going to be really happy to have him and play a variety of roles. And it's going to be the latest Mac product, I think about a guy like Deont Johnson, who if he could get his hands together, would be even more productive than he already is. Matt continues to produce guys like that, and I think he's just the latest in that group. I love guys like that who are just so smooth and can run route. Like, that seems to translate better.

And I love guys that Steve Smith loves. He was so high on DJ Moore when DJ Moore was coming out even before he was on the Panthers. He was loving Skymore. He feels like he has a very good feel of receivers that were somewhat like Steve Smith that can excel. And he was loving Skymore. on the coverage. Just like an overarching question. Very into Dudley more.

You talk to Steve Smith about cinema? I'm a big fan of... Undersized actor. I'm a big fan of Steve Smith. I ran into him when I had my kids with me, bringing him to the NFL experience. Right. And I don't know Steve Smith very well,

but he just went out of his way to say something nice about me to my kids, even though, I mean, who knows? What are he said? Yeah, well, what are the comments? He's just how I do it. I do a great job on TV. Like, they should put him on more and stuff like that. Why is this on our show?

Right. I don't know, but I just, he just seems like a nice human because I, who knows if he even has ever seen me or whatever, but he was just trying to hook me up in front of my kid. No, that was good. Checks out as authentic? They didn't really care. Class act. I thought these defensive edge players and defensive tackles all were so insane, Nick, that like you're looking at these mocks and it feels like anyone could go anywhere and that more than most years, no one knows anything. And then there's a lot of copycatting going on with these mocks in general. But guys like Jermaine Johnson or guys like Trouin Walker from Georgia who blew up the combine, but maybe didn't get as much attention because Jordan Davis did it on the same day.

But he's probably not going as high as him. It's like you could shake up this top five or six between the edge rushers and the tackles. It seems like it could go in any direction, including the number one pick with the Jaguars who just tagged Cam Robinson their tackle. so maybe that's an edge player. Like, how many different players do you think could get taken number one after all these players showed out? I think it's probably one of three guys. It's either Iki Aquanwu, the kid out of Alabama,

the tackle as well, and then probably Aiden Hutchinson. Honestly, but why couldn't it be like Jermaine Johnson or Trayvon Walker and someone just like falls in love? Doesn't feel like there's some huge gap between all these dudes? Well, yeah, I feel like that throughout the top time. I think it could go a number of different ways, which I think is why these moms. are going to be all over the place as we get closer to the draft.

You know, Trevon Walker, you want to use one descriptive term for him. It's athletic. I mean, the guy is an athletic freak. He was, he stood out in the drills for that reason. He went through, he ran the hoop, you know, the, the drill that tests kind of your ability to get around the edge and your bend. It looked like he was at a 45 degree angle throughout the entire thing and did it with ease. I was stunned by that.

He just really stood out there. And then you talk about, you know, guys like even Jordan Davis, but, you know, on the defensive interior. Jermaine Johnson, I think, is another one. What stood out to me in the drills was his power. You know, he's under control. This is a guy who could not crack the starting lineup consistently at Georgia, transfers to Florida State and becomes a stud.

And it makes teams raise their eyebrow. Well, why only one year? He said during his interview, lack of snaps, maybe not the best fit. I go to Florida State. I find a home and I want to be feared at the next level. The guys he models himself after, guys like Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett, why? Because they're feared and that's what I want to be.

He believes in himself. if he thinks he's the best edge rusher in this draft. So I guess it wouldn't be a massive surprise if he ended up being the first one off the board. But again, you know, with the copycatting, it's all Aidan Hutchinson. A guy who, and he's there in terms of frame measured pretty well, didn't quite stand out to me in the drills, but his strengths are technicality. He's got the full arsenal of pass rushing moves. He's got the experience from playing at Michigan.

That's where he's going to succeed. And I think that's what makes it ends up making him probably a top two pick. I don't see him getting past Detroit. But I wouldn't be surprised to see any of these other guys go in the top five. I know the combine does this to these mock drafters, and I also noticed that Greg complimented Steve Smith, complimenting him, but then about 14 seconds later took the mock draft industry, and I don't disagree with this take, and shredded them person to person.

But is there too much, is it just for our eyes that the combine results trigger these rise or fall among players? Because if you're a competent scouting staff, shouldn't it be like 95% tape and, you know, the combine's a nice cherry on top? if you go in and do what we think you're going to do? Yeah, I think that's typically what most scouts will say is that the tape is the proof. And a lot of players will say that, especially if they're not going to test well, they'll just be like, well, look at my tape, check my tape. So what if I'm not working out?

The proof is in the tape. But there's a lot of value in the combine for guys who can elevate themselves. And I think there were a few that did that this week as well. Some more confirming the judgment of them than others. But I mean, we see it every year where a guy just blows the doors off of everybody watching and suddenly they're way up high. I think about John Ross in that 40 time that he ran and where he ended up getting drafted. Now, ultimately, the tape kind of told us what we saw in the NFL, which is that

he wasn't a complete receiver. But on the flip side, a lot of guys can make some money in Indianapolis. I don't care. Like Jordan Dave, anyone that's 340 pounds being able to like jump 11 feet, you should just put them on a football team and just do that every down. And then people will just get confused. And that would be effective. It'll just stop. It'll stop them. Well, Shook, you've said it all. And make sure you check it out on NFL.com. Shook's break down is all combined team. And I'll say that the next step for you, Shook, now that you have the tie-in with next-gen

stacks during the season, you have your all-combine team. Now we've got to get you a tab on the mock draft side of things, because that's an important little step. There's time of year. You've got to basically check the boxes for each season here at the media group. Dan, do you have a background in law? Are you trying to be an agent here? Is that what you're doing here?

I'm just saying I see you as a rising star, and I want to make sure we maximize. your considerable talent. My goal for you is to gain 45 pounds of fat and then work your way out of it. Give yourself a physical challenge. Let yourself go into the deep dimensions and then come back as like a better story.

Mark, I already did that when I was 19. I lost 60 pounds in the summer. So I've already done that. I'm saying gain. And Dan, he's never trained to be an agent, but he has become an expert at climbing the corporate ladder by grabbing onto that IP. Don't worry about who you step on.

on the way up kick him if they're hanging on that's a real lesson for the kids i'll close the two things here real quick yeah i want you guys to pay attention to this name just because he jumped off the field for me i know he's got some issues with tackling that he needs to clean up in terms of form and everything else if you lead land if you read lance zero lines uh bio on him his scouting uh work on him that's what he'll list but there's a kid out of nebraska uh cam taylor let's see i got my notes up right in front of me right now cam taylor brit i think that that kid is going to end up being a stud at the next level. He has no fear, no regard for his physical well-being in terms of attacking ball carriers.

He was very explosive on the field. I really liked him. And the other sleeper going back to the IP thing, the Flashpoint series, ATN Flashpoint. Oh, yeah. See, that's, that'll work. It's back, Shook. Flashpoint. Oh, my God.

Is this supposed to be a Bob Seeger song? I can't tell you, Shook, how excited Greg is. I'm excited. We're doing an extra show this week, just so it didn't feel like we were shoehorning flashpoint into another show. I mean, the excitement is, I just, I could fear it bubbling off Greg and Shook, obviously, you're part of that group, too. So don't worry, it's back this week after a one-week hiatus. And then it's going back on hiatus next week because, you know, we could save it. We have a long, dead.

like three-month period, we could save these things for. Yeah, but this is when you plant the seeds of a successful series. There is a lot of unrest in our world, but Flash Points is returning this week to the show. You want to hit the false set on this one? This is like debuting the voice after the Super Bowl, you know? Flashpoint. And by the way, Shuki, it's on the Cleveland Browns and Baker Mayfield this week

with Tony Grossie, a longtime scribe in that region. Oh, tell Tony I said hello. I saw him last week. Look at that. I mean, the guy is an industry leader at this point. Shook later, buddy. Thanks, guys. See you.

All right. Yes, it's back. It's back. And it's coming back tomorrow. That's where we end today's show. A mega edition of the Round the NFL podcast where we hit all the big stories, promoted the Flashpoint series, and learned a little bit about Mark Sessler and his career aspirations. Anything else to share before we say goodbye?

From me? I think I've said probably once again too much, depending on who's listening to the show, so nothing more for me. And yes, there is some tension, Greg, with the entire group in Erica, with the Cancun Revelation, but... I don't have any tension about that.

That's part of the problem, is that you created some tension. No, right? He kept going back to me. He's like, well, we've got to move on. Greg's getting sick of this topic. And, like, I hadn't had any thought about it. I was kind of enjoying the back and forth, the fun.

Just because I'm silent, doesn't mean. I know you hate this, Greg, because, like, you don't know what's ever going on in my head. I know you, Greg. I've been working with you a long time now. But in this particular case, I was just, like, sitting there sort of just enjoying it, and you're like, Greg's got to have us move on. I'm going to tell you if you got it wrong. You got it wrong. You don't like the Flashpoint series, though.

I got that right. I mean, I don't mind it. You're not in love with it. It's not a love connection. It just feels like, you know, Baker's not on top of, like, people's tongues in the NFL. Well, let's see what happens over the next 24 hours. Actually, we do have... We're tastemakers, though, Greg.

We put it on the tongues. We do have a quote from Baker Mayfield, though, that could be just like a little bit of a tease for the Flashpoint series. Ricky has it right now. I didn't kill my wife. He seems to be happy in his marriage. He's doing all those dopey commercials with the wife, right, Mark? He's doing the commercials with her.

I mean, I'm not going to, I don't know, you know, again, I feel like it's time for me to stop talking and we need to go. All right. Thank you to everybody for listening. Yes, a big week for the show. We have three episodes back to back to back as we ramp up towards the new league year and free agency and then the television show return. Another show back from hiatus, the Iran, the NFL broadcast on Friday.

check your local listings. Okay, let's go. Ricky, no matter what, by the way, my frustration is about the Cancun trip. Yeah. I love you. No, they're warranted completely. Right.

Like, yeah. I love you. I love you, and Graver's going to do a great job. But, you know, I love you. He'd the call. Hey, everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move to Six, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies

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