NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Sixth Annual Mock Sessler Marc Draft
Episode Date: April 24, 2024In a room full of heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, and Marc Sessler give you the most anticipated piece of draft content each year: The Mock Sessler Marc Draft. The heroes are joined by Lance Z...ierlein to start the show and react to Marc's first eleven picks (00:30). After the break, the heroes run through the rest of the 2024 Mock Sessler Marc Draft (27:14). Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Live from Hollywood Park, it's the 16th annual Mock Cessler Mark Draft.
Your must-have final compendium to the 2000-20,
NFL draft.
I'm Jason Zumwalt.
You may know me as the voice of Reynolds Ratt,
2007 to 2009.
And now here's your host,
the old Zusser himself,
Dan Hantis.
Hey-oh.
Hello and welcome.
To yes.
The 16th annual
Mock Sessler, Mark Draft
and what an exciting time
it is because
24 hours from now, all
the attention, it all heads
out to Detroit.
All heads out to Marshall Mathers
Universe.
Eight mile.
I didn't touch.
But for all intents and purposes,
the center of the draft world right now
is the Chris Wessling podcast studio
for Mr. Sessler's
mock draft.
I cannot.
do this alone. I will not do this alone. So I have a co-host. I'm going to be frank with you.
It's mostly for eye candy purposes. It's Greg Rosenthal. That is right. I have been working
out like crazy personal trainer. Lack of knowledge, but huge guns. Massive pipes. But that's not
all. That's not all. Also joining us. And this is important.
A man who is quality control of this mock draft.
He's a man, he's a professional.
He is Lance Zerlin.
Lance.
I noticed I didn't get any applause, so that's cool.
There you are.
There we are.
A smattering.
I brought along some melatonin.
Okay.
Melatonin just in case.
I get too excited about Mark's draft,
I need to take the edge off a little bit.
Sounds like a man who doesn't like someone else coming on his corner,
the draft expert corner.
Look, let me just put it this way.
I'm no Marlowe Stamfield, but I will say this.
I remember, you know, when former athletes who are in the space
or even guys who play now and they get all upset,
who are these guys mock draft and where did they ever play?
What do they know?
Who the hell's Mel Kiper anyway?
You know, that whole, that whole thing.
And I always thought, well, that's dumb.
But now that Mark's trying to crank out a mock draft,
who the hell is Mark Sessler to do these mock drafts?
It's just kind of the same kind of thing.
You know, when people encroach on your space, you don't love it.
It's like when someone makes a copy of a VHS and then a copy of a VHS,
the degradation at a certain level is, it's almost like, can we watch it anymore?
Can we listen?
And without further ado, and what a way to set the table,
it is the man of the hour.
hopefully comes in under an hour, Mark Sessler.
Well, thank you.
This is starting exactly as I thought it would in terms of tone and complete disregard for
the immense amount of work that I put into this.
We've also put in work behind the scenes.
Everyone should check us out on YouTube and you can see the visual of five different
Mark Sessler's drafting at the same time.
It's beautiful.
Mark, I like that that's how you come into this because in past years, you have famously stated,
I believe last year, if you listened to
last year's program, you said
you put in one hour and I believe
12 minutes of research. And yet
all we've heard
for the past few weeks is
you are turned into a machine.
You're basically coming for Lance
in a way because you have been
watching tape, you've been grinding.
So in a lot of ways,
you want to be legitimized within the industry.
And I could tell. So this means a lot.
This is such an important mark draft for you.
Yeah, I think an hour and 12 minutes is rich
for what I did last year
because I think I got up
and made coffee
and at one point
took a brief nap
but like this time around
I have tried to
you know
go through these picks
pick by pick
and look for things
that would excite me
as well as what seems logical
let's do it
all right
so this is very important
you need to hit
let's check out
last year's results
oh really
Mark Sessler
203
you got Bryce Young
at 1
you got Beijon to the
Falcons. You got C.J. Stroud right, but he had him at 12. So Will Anderson and you got Anderson and
Stroud, but you had him in the wrong spots. Got Richardson right.
Team was a correct pick. Although, because obviously, Will Levis was second round. But
name and team was a correct point. We're going to give him full credit for saying a guy's going
third overall. That didn't even get taken on it. Take it up with pass. Greg. You agreed last.
Yeah, Greg. This was something you already signed off to.
In the first. Yeah. Penn and Hooker had no had one liver.
last year.
Right.
That passed Greg is one of my least favorite people.
Okay, but yeah, you got to beat five or one.
No, you have to, we're going to rewrite that.
You have to have it within the first round.
You know, Will Levis going in the sixth round to the Titans isn't the same as Will Levis going
fourth over all over.
No, I would agree with that.
I think it got so bleak that we amended the rules during our live show.
Okay.
So that's last year.
But this is this year.
And this is a different mark.
And Lance,
you're going to see that.
And what starts this episode is we get to the first pick right now.
So what started as an exercise, almost mocking the industry.
Now he's marking the industry as a Sessler joint.
Get to it, the first overall pick.
Okay, very little drama, obviously.
We're at the first overall pick that Chicago Bears do it.
We've expected them to do for eons at this point, Caleb Williams, quarterback USC.
Okay.
Now, is there anyone out there, Lance, by the way, that is saying that that's not going to happen?
No.
That's the...
Nobody's out there.
It's done.
It's done.
We're in the books.
Mark is one.
One for one.
There's an NFL scout or two out there that it's like, well, we would take Jaden Williams, supposedly.
Yeah.
I don't know if I believe it.
One or two.
I don't think we need to hold there any longer.
Let's move to the second overall pick, the Washington commanders.
I think the events of the last couple weeks make this slightly mysterious if you're into, like, chatter and talking points and offenses and who's an alpha and who's not an alpha.
But the Washington commanders at number two, stick with what we've heard.
They go with Jaden Daniels quarterback LSU.
Now, we got the thumbs up from Lance.
So you're not reading into Lance
Jayden didn't like the idea that he's at top golf
with like 12 other guys
No I think that
Jayden Daniels while he may not like to hang out
with a bunch of other quarterbacks
I don't care as long as he's the only quarterback
that's going to start for Washington they're going to take
All right moving on to number three
All right number three and you know
I try to please the people that matter to me
inside this industry on the show
And that seems like a mistake right Lance
pleasing the people who matter to you.
I mean, that's what the insiders do.
Namely, Greg, for the sake of just namely Greg.
But Greg has been hot on the tail of New England Patriots,
their third overall pick.
Drake May quarterback, North Carolina.
It's also just logical.
I think this is where they're going.
You're hearing a lot of chatter that the Patriots really dig Drake May too.
Mark Cessler, proverbial people pleaser.
This feels like the first, you know, where the draft really starts
unless Washington shocks us doesn't take Daniel.
Lance as we get close
like where are you where are you feeling
is going to happen I'm going to go right player wrong team
I think May goes three but I'm going to put them
either with the Giants or the Vikings in this spot
I'm not going to give you the entire thing
you're going to have to read my mock to find out what I'm
actually doing that's what a tease
this would drive me crazy
if they just assume they can get some other
quarterback some other time
that's it I'm out forever
the fourth pick
now this is a hotly
debated pick
about who's going to make it. Right now it's the Cardinals
does it stay that way, Mark? It does not.
And you're going to have your
fans that say, wait a minute,
you don't take Marvin Harrison, what are you doing here?
But the Cardinals make the trade
that a lot of people have presupposed
could happen with the Vikings. They get
11 and 23 and the Vikings move up
and Kevin O'Connell gets his guy, J.J. McCarthy,
quarterback, Michigan.
Lance. I'm okay with her.
Is that work for you?
Yeah, I'm fine with it.
I'm fine with it.
I think Arizona now has three first round picks.
They do.
So, you know, obviously they have to,
they've got to figure out what they're going to do with three first round picks.
I think they'd have to trade up.
But for now, I'm okay with it.
He's going to like some of what happens later on.
And this would break my heart.
This would mean that Sam Darnold's chances of actually starting for the Vikings go way down.
So I'm really hoping this does not occur,
but I'm fully prepared for it.
As we get closer to draft,
I do think it's worth wondering,
are we sure that there are multiple teams
that want J.G. McCarthy this much?
Now, if the Patriots don't take May
or maybe they make the trade with the Vikings
and the Vikings go up and they take May at three,
like either way,
do the Vikings even feel like they need to go up that high
to get J.J. McCarthy, I think is a fair question.
Is there a chance he would even fall all the way down to 11th?
I feel like that's higher than people are trying to...
Well, you've got the Giants.
hanging out there, so you can't get too cute.
All right. Number five, you have
the Los Angeles Superchargers
on the clock. Do they stay there?
We have a trade. Another one? Yeah.
Oh, my goodness. And this is not me wishcasting.
I can't think of a more all-in team
in the NFL that basically has like a
one-year contract with the football gods
just to make it happen right now. That is the New York
Jets. Oh, my goodness. And we know
they like to wheel and deal and make moves. And they move
up to number five, and they take Marvin Harrison, Jr.
They don't care. They're going to go for it.
Now, that would be, as a jet fan, I would be over the moon.
Now, what are we giving up?
I would like to know, but you know what?
I think to Joe Douglas's credit, as much as we are talking about,
and I agree that they are all in on this year because everything is on the line for the organization
and how could it go wrong.
But to Joe Douglas's credit, we have not seen him make a move where it's like he's selling
the farm because he doesn't care because he's not there yet.
this would start to edge into that territory.
And Les Lance, it doesn't matter what they're giving up
because Harrison is that good.
Is he that good?
Is this a superstar waiting to just enter the league?
I think he's a really good player of the chance to be a pro bowl player.
And you know what I like about Mark here?
He talks about the all-in nature of this pick.
They don't even have a second rounder this year.
So basically, you're trading up and you're going to give up a big pick next year as well.
So you're basically, if you're Joe Douglas said,
If you're going to fire me, I'm taking all my picks with me.
There you go.
Or you're not really specifying at all what you're doing.
And as a fellow mock drafter, Lance, what do you think of that?
Just in terms of the concise analysis, too, that Mark is bringing to the next.
Greg, what is wrong with you?
I mean, I love going for with Harrison.
I'm not sure how you're going to make that luck.
I just, for me, this just smacks of, I like the phrase he used a wish cap.
because I think that is what this is, despite his protestations.
That's what I was looking for you.
Yeah, so I'm going to say, no, no.
I'm sorry, dog, that's a no for me.
Yeah, and in general, Lance, to be taken seriously in this world,
wishcasting is probably not something you want to do in general, right?
Right, right.
You can't just go through life, just hoping and wishing.
You know, there's an old saying in the movie.
Have you ever seen the movie?
Have you ever seen the movie?
I think it's this boy's life.
Have you ever seen this boy's life with Robert DeCaro?
And DiCaprio.
Leo DiCaprio.
It's one of the most, I think the most underrated movies ever.
And there's a phrase in there,
crap in one hand and hope in the other and see which one gets full first.
Or maybe it was a different movie.
But it's my favorite quote ever to use because it's true.
I'm going to ask you a question.
Who's got an entire episode based around their mock draft that's about to blow up on, you know, iTunes.
You've got your podcast and YouTube as well.
Daniel Jeremiah.
Okay.
Well, who else?
But okay.
And by the way, I caught that little subtle lowering of expectations there by Lance for Marvin Harrison, Jr.
Yeah.
I noticed to do a Pro Bowl player.
He was like, he's got a chance to be a Pro Bowl player.
It's like, okay.
We see you.
We see you.
Hell.
Not in all time.
I'm not saying all time.
But Aaron Rogers for one year.
Like Tyrod Taylor is a Pro Bowl player, right?
I mean, that's not the way.
I'm just saying.
Yeah.
Anyway, let's move on.
We keep rolling.
So we got two trades in the top five.
Are any of the big QBs left?
The big four, no.
So now the New York Giants, who I think we're hoping one of those guys might be there.
I think they were hoping someone would be there.
I think they probably picked up the phone and were outpriced, out leveraged by the Vikings.
You know, the Giants have a lot to choose here, though.
And I think we need to go to one of the greatest giant podcasts out there.
You know, we don't like to promote other shows.
But this is different.
It's Christopher Walkins, Walking with Giants.
A great show.
Great show.
So many people want to know who the Giants are going to choose.
I'll tell you now, Malik Neighbors, LSU wide receiver, 6'4-0, 200 pounds.
It's going to be good, I think.
Wow.
Mr. Walkin, thank you.
And check out Walkin with Giants anywhere you get your podcast.
Lance, were you aware of that podcast?
That actor, iconic actor, Christopher Walking, getting up.
in years, but still covering the Giants and watching the Giants very closely.
He likes the idea of Malik Neighbors from LSU going number six.
I had no idea.
Christopher was a Giants fan, but I know now.
Wow, not only is Lance going toe to toe with Mark Sessler,
also with the voice of ATN, Jason Zumwalt.
Yeah, it's an incredible showing by Lance so far.
I think this could be a savvy move.
As we're getting closer, for what it's worth,
a lot of buzz out there from Giants reporters,
Giants, everything.
Actually, if May is gone,
they might not be as into taking a quarterback
as people think.
And that would make them more likely.
You think that's accurate.
I think that's actually accurate.
And here's the other thing.
I think that if you draft Malik Neighbors,
this is what I like to call this,
the third act for Daniel Jones.
We have the first act, the second act,
or actually this would probably be the fourth act.
He actually had a sneaky good rookie area.
Yeah, the fourth act.
I think we'd be on the fourth act
and what would be known as the comeback
right comeback inside of the second contract.
Every classic play is built off a three-act structure,
so four acts feel is excessive for Daniel Jones.
Yeah, his entire career resets every year
with a whole different set of expectations, it seems weird.
All right, number seven.
Now, this one is on my radar, Mark,
just because everyone seems certain of the pick.
And when that happens,
sometimes the mock industry and the,
the rest of us end up looking foolish.
But what do you think happens with the Titans?
I'm with you.
It bothered me to even type this.
I think this is Bill Callahan telling, saying, I'm Daddy.
I choose who goes here.
I'm running your offensive line.
The Titans at number seven.
You think the offensive line coach is running the draft room?
It's the father of the head coach.
Wow.
Yeah, I do.
I think he's probably got some say here.
But it's a need.
Some daddy issues there.
Sure.
Joe Alto is 6'7, 322 pounds.
He's the pick at number seven for the Titans.
It just makes sense.
If they do something else, I think it'd be.
a relatively massive surprise to anyone out there?
Yeah, Lance, is this being overly simplified that this is definitely going to happen?
No, if Joe Alt is still there, he will be the pick.
Yeah, Daniel Jeremiah, your friend of me on the Move the Sticks podcast, Lance, said on Wednesday
that he just keeps hearing teams are trading up for tackles, that he thinks there's going to be
a lot of trade up for.
Now, maybe it's all is certainly tackle one or is expected to be.
and there's three or four that could go in the top 15.
All right.
The next pick.
Go ahead.
No, I think, I mean, I just think that's it.
I think teams have, we've all put Joe Alt to seven.
It's the one that makes the most sense.
That's one of the biggest dangers you can have in the draft
is have everyone know who you potentially are going to take
because then you become an easy trade ahead of target.
Maybe they could trade with the Chargers,
seven to five take out there.
Perhaps.
Okay, we're going to get through the top 10.
We're going to take a break and say,
go by to Lance because Lance has serious person
stuff. He does, yeah. This is a farce.
He seems to be hinting at that.
Number eight, so
this is where just, again,
everyone just assuming, okay, here are the Falcons,
no defensive players off the board,
so this is where the first guy goes.
Do you think that? Right. Like Dallas
Turner just staring at his phone thinking it's going to ring.
Well, it's not going to ring because we have a trade.
Oh.
And this is where I
start to do things that I want to do.
and the Kansas City Chiefs
who sit in turmoil
at the wide receiver position
talk about another team
behind the Jets that are equal
with the Jets or more
and more in terms of proving it
are all in right now
it might be your last year
with Travis Kelsey
you want to go get that offense
you want to deal what you've been doing before
they trade up to number eight
with the Atlanta Falcons
and they get Romadunze
wide receiver Washington
and you talk about an offense
that looks transformed with this pick
ready to go right away rookie
Lance is covering his face
he's pressing his temples
speak to us about what you're feeling, Lance, right now.
I mean,
Army wants to just hang up on this thing right now.
So I like that Mark says,
you know, what I like to do when I do mock drafts
is I try to think like the teams.
And I say, well, now, what would this GM do?
Now, what is their history?
What are they, and that's why my mocks take five to seven hours.
Mark says, this is what I want to do.
I'm going to take over.
So Mark thinks, what would Mark do if he were with the Chiefs?
Trade up.
Like my job's not on the line.
I'm going to give away three first rounders, apparently,
because I'm going to go from 32 to 8.
I don't even know if they make the draft chart.
I don't even know if the draft chart even if they even have that as a possibility.
Classes in session, Mark.
590 and 8 is 1,400.
We've got to match up 900 more points.
That's going to be more than a first rounder next year.
You're basically giving up a second this year, a first.
next year we've seen it though we've seen it we've seen it a couple times sammy wakins julio jones
in fairness i think what lance is also getting at what the the way he's the draft trade the point
system right it's unlike he's indirectly saying mark did you even do any of this in your head
before throwing out something that it seems irresponsible almost in a i view trades and future assets
and anything attached to the salary cap at this point as just sort of a mythical uh blockade
and i think this is possible so again
this is my world. It is spicy though
that the chiefs in the bill, the two defining
teams the last, you know, five years, both have this
vibe that maybe one of them trades up
for a wide receiver makes this draft more fun.
And I would say being on conventional
doesn't mean you're wrong, Mark. So the quote
there is, I support this one, Mark. I'm also not wrong
yet. It hasn't happened. This is where we start
to do what I want to do. I like
that. That's like you're an iconoclast when it comes to
this industry. All right. It's like the part in the
movie where you break bad, essentially.
Michael Douglas just starts losing his mind
on poor citizens of Los Angeles
I think it's fair to say you're the bad boy
of the Mock Industrial Complex
Number nine, the Chicago Bears
with their second pick of the top top.
I think people thought the Bears
would go get their wide receiver here
but I think what they do
to settle down Iber Fluse
who's like, will anyone ever give me assets
and stop trading Roquan Smith
and everyone else with any talent
off my defense? They take the player
that people thought the Falcons would
Dallas Turner Edge out of Alabama
Emma, you give him a piece on defense to improve that pass rush.
To your top edge. Lance, I'm just curious.
No, I've got Jared Verst, but it's very close.
I think Dallas Turner goes before verse.
So I'm fine with this.
Finally, a respite from insanity.
All right.
Let's then move to number 10, because I'm curious if you're going to be okay with this one.
So, of course, in Mark's world, the Jets and Chargers traded.
So now it's the Chargers sitting at number 10.
And what do they do with the pick?
Well, they need a wide receiver.
We know that.
but it's Jim Harbaugh, so it's like
who does Jim Harbaugh want to take that
really fills out another aspect
of this offense. This person can catch the ball too.
It's Brock Bowers' tight end, Georgia.
What do you think? Now, Bowers has been widely
mocked to the Jets, staying home at 10,
but in this case, he goes
10, but to a different team. Lance, is that
logical to you?
Well, this is the genius of a Mark
Sessler, is that
he takes a look and he even said,
we need a pass catcher. You don't say you need
wide receiver anymore. You need a pass catcher. You need a weapon. And so Mark is correctly identified
that Bowers is a weapon. Don't put the label on wide receiver tight end. We know the charges need a
weapon. We know they need an offensive lineman. In this case, they got a weapon, but he's one of one.
He's the only tied in going to first and maybe the second round too. So in this particular case,
I think the value is pretty good for a guy who I consider to be a weapon at tight end. I love that.
You needed that. It was a good one, Mark.
That was a good way to, you know, end our segment with this.
Like, that felt good.
It's why I haven't totally mentally ruled out.
Brock Bowers at nine.
I'm actually looking down at another competing mock draft.
This is a new entry into the mix.
Uh-oh.
The Walker Rosenthal, 2024 mock draft.
That is my nine-year-old son with zero help.
Yeah.
He put this together weeks ago and hours.
And we will compare.
Who gets more right?
I'll send it out on it.
But he had Bowers going to the Bears,
which I thought was a creative.
little wrinkle.
I know Cole Komet is there,
but they need weapons.
They could add a second time.
Before I leave, real quick,
can you just give me,
because I may want to,
this is pretty fun.
Can you give me 11 real quick?
Can I get just a little teaser on 11?
Oh, wow.
It's funny.
It's funny.
It's funny why Lance is saying that
because I was going to suggest,
can we just hang for one more pick?
Because I want Lance's thoughts on the Las Vegas,
Raiders being on the clock.
Maybe we'll go later.
Well, yeah, so there's a trade.
That's how they get on the clock.
The Cardinals had this pick from the Vikings.
The Cardinals are willing to move down to 13
and allow the Raiders to come up to 11
where they take Michael Pennix Jr.
They need a quarterback out of Washington.
They have been linked together.
There's supposed interest.
Who knows if that's all lies or not?
You have, it appears to me,
you have injured Lance Erline with that choice.
In fact, he's gone.
He's, oh my God, Lance is gone.
He just disconnected the chat.
I don't blame, I didn't, you know, I didn't, like, ship Ryan Leap Jr.
to any of these teams, these are good players for the most part, but.
Just to clarify, Lance indeed cut off his communication after that.
He had a look of this.
That was, yeah, that was, the box was gone.
I don't know if Mark's, that's a first, wiped him out and he fell.
Can I, can I explain why I, like, before we just, like, float down.
down this avenue of how could this happen?
Like the Broncos have the next pick.
They do.
So the Raiders are hopscatching one of their biggest rivals to take the
like the next quarterback you'd logically take.
And they've gotten, these are two teams with nothing at quarterback.
So do you sit there and watch the Broncos go take Michael Pennix?
And then you are sitting there with nothing at quarterback?
He seems to be the most Raiders-e quarterback possible.
Big arm, throw deep.
Like, they love that.
I think the issue would be
a lot of people feel like he is being
really pushed up to even being talked about
as a first round talent
because of the injuries, because of the time,
but also just because he's not incredibly accurate
where to me it feels like
if they are trading up from 13,
that feels a little rich.
It's two spots.
There's a logical reason.
You're hopscatching the team
that seems desperate to take
whoever's sitting there a quarterback.
I feel like he is more likely to get taken
in round two than he is in the top
15, but that's just my
Well, Chad Ryder thought the same thing, but I mean, how
often our quarterback's overvalued in this
process? So, I don't know.
Again, is it interesting? Are Raiders fans
sitting like, that captioned my interest? Walker's got him
going to the Vikings at 22. They actually stick
and pick, and they have pennix. Are we going to do this
for every pick? No, I just said that penix
especially. This is... The minute
the minute Lance goes, we've got, I got a nine-year-on
on my back. Yeah, well, like, you
to Walker is like Lance to you. You
suddenly don't like this newcomer.
I'm not sure I'll...
It's the cycle of life.
They probably won't beat Walker, so...
I think in fairness, Greg, as the co-host here,
first of all, we should talk beforehand.
This is a big stage for Mark.
And we've talked about it on our most recent show.
The goal here is to legitimize Mark.
Oh, yeah.
And having a nine-year-old serve as his foil,
on top of Lance, which I thought was more constructive
in this idea of like how do we...
It didn't go exactly how...
how I wanted, because I wanted Lance to be more of a
helping hand to you, but he seemed, I mean,
he hung up on us, for Christ's sake. He was put off.
So now to throw in a nine-year-old
potentially feasting on you
is not what we're looking for. We're trying
to make, because like Mark said,
a big hit mock draft for
Mark draft for Mock Sessler
is a big hit for around the NFL.
I will say one thing, though, but it's kind of like picking up
extra picks. A big Walker-Rosenthal
mock draft would be good for around the NFL
either. It'd be a whole story, nine-year-old.
Either way, now we're just taking more bites at the apple.
One out of two is probably going to do well.
I feel like a hit for Mark in this mock is a hit for the group.
A hit for Walker is a hit for Rosenz.
No, it's like, what is?
And I respect children and I respect their opinions and all that stuff.
But like, you know, I'll be happy to see how he does.
I mean, there's certainly some.
It's written in pencil.
I mean, the genie's out of the bottle.
So now Walker's involved, but I'll send it out.
But there are some issues, including he doesn't.
appear to have all 32 teams is only 31. That's
a bit of a shark coming. You never know. That works out
to your favor. That does. Yeah. All right. Let's take a break. And
when we come back, we
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All right, we are back in case you missed it.
We just went through the first 11 picks of the Mock Sessler, Mark Draft.
Thank you again to Lance Ehrlich, who you could find him everywhere, NFL network, NFL.com.
And he has his final mock draft going up live on NFL.com.
today, Wednesday.
So make sure you check that out.
And thank you to Lance for joining us,
even if it was a little bit more hostile than...
Yeah, like we were looking for Jacoby Brissette
kind of mentoring Sam Howell,
and we got Joe Flacco icing out Lamar Jackson,
but it was fun.
I'm still sitting here.
Uneffected by it all.
That's good. And you need to be.
Yeah, I feel completely, I feel nothing.
Because I think you need to have iron guts
to succeed in this very...
I mean, look at it.
How many mock drafts are on NFL.com?
At least four.
Well, an absurd amount, actually.
I think more than that, right?
It's an absurd amount.
Oh, I think it was like maybe six, seven?
Oh, no.
Double digits.
I think there's 47.
Multiple authors.
Even just different people, yeah, there's probably over 10.
And then they have version 5 through 6.
Well, that's different.
I mean, just the number of individuals.
I think we're over 10.
A wide net.
I think we're over 10.
And that's the ground that we're looking to.
edge into here at NFL media we are part of NFL media correct we're on according to reports okay
so let's move on now the next up next pick is who's on the board well so the broncos we're sitting
here at 12 but now it's like they can't get their quarterback and they're like you know what we have a lot
to rebuild from after this post russell wilson apocalypse so they're open to um a move and by
So isn't it funny that the Broncos go from one Wilson that nobody wants to go near radioactive
and they trade for another Wilson and Zach that nobody wants to go near and is radioactive?
What is up with that name? Stay away from the Wilson's Denver Broncos.
I don't like that at all.
But they're going to be staying away from this pick.
Let's take a look.
Oh, wow.
Another trade.
Very active.
Oh, no.
There's been a trade.
The Arizona Cardinals via the Denver Broncos have traded for Illumiya, Faishanu.
offensive tackle.
Penn State, Jr., 6.6.317 pounds.
Oh, my goodness, Jason, my wife listens to this podcast.
He is a Cardinals fanatics, so yes, there was a lot of masculine energy right there.
He seemed to be losing his mind there.
So there you go.
They go and get an offensive tackle.
I feel like fans would be disappointed if they just take another tackle.
They keep taking tackles.
That's true, but you talked about teams.
you know, moving up to do it.
And, uh, this seems a little beyond the Cardinals pay grade in terms of,
uh, football abilities behind the scenes.
So they're trading out of the fourth.
Well, they did this last year.
And then they're trading.
They're trading up.
They have three first round picks.
This is what, this is what I predict that they're going to do.
They're going to overthink this whole thing and, and, uh, even though Lance didn't seem so
hot about Marvin Harrison, they're going to, instead of getting a superstar wide receiver,
uh, for Kyler Murray and finally.
seeing once and for all if that guy is the truth forever and ever,
we're going to end up with an offensive lineman, not even the projected number one.
I understand your ire, but let's let the process play out.
It's a lack of trust more than I think also like Montiossanford is a very different world
than what we were frowning on about the Cardinals for a long time.
And I think actually last draft, he had one of the savviest drafts.
And I think he shows right here that he can move up and down the board and do what he needs to do.
Uh-oh.
Because they got the next pick too.
All right.
Number 13, the Cardinals on the board.
And here is what they do at number 13.
Let's stay right home.
Another trade.
The Arizona Cardinals via the Las Vegas Raiders have traded for Laiatu-Latu, Edge, UCLA.
Senior, 65, 265 pounds.
I think we're losing, Jay.
I think we are losing Jason.
He likes that.
Better than the tackle.
You got a tackle.
You got an edge.
Those are two of the more expensive positions to try to stock.
So you got them both on rookie contracts.
Very nice.
Were you aware that you win titles in the trenches?
I think that could be, there's an argument for that.
Thank you.
Good value there, too.
Love Lott, too.
That is, I came up with that.
You win in the trenches.
I'm going to let Greg announce this one because he,
this is his pet team. His team. Okay. The number 14 pick in the first round.
I think Saints fans will be happy that they didn't have to trade up to take their tackle.
Talis Fuyaga from Oregon State. Some people think might move inside to guard, but
Saints need help everywhere. Little chalky though because everyone thinks they're going to take
a tackle, but I think they are. And they seem to do it all every year.
Now as a football fan, I'm going to say, here's the thing about the first round picks when you go
get the tackle it's so important um obviously to have stability at those positions especially left
tackle but you never come out of the first round like pumping your fist it's like not only is it
not a glory position when you have a first round pick and you take a tackle they are i mean all positions
are but they're so boom and bust these big men and maybe he's a maybe he's a player maybe he's out
the league in three years.
Hopefully the Saints get their guy.
Well, you're not going to like this draft then, Dan,
because there could be like seven in the first round.
I probably won't.
And a lot of people think, like a guy like Fugga,
he might have been tackle one in last year's class,
that there's four or five of these guys that would have.
No, you know, I invented the saying,
championships are one in the trenches.
So don't get it mixed up.
Yes.
I understand the importance of taking this player.
Right. Sure.
I mean.
But the excitement level, when your team takes a tackle is,
it's usually a little muted.
that's all I'm saying.
Yes, they also traded up just two years ago
in the first round for Trevor Penning,
an individual who they would refuse to play
no matter how many tackles got injured last year.
So they actually had given up a first round pick
that turned into a top 10 pick that was Jalen Carter
and their second round pick this year.
They're still paying for that trade
and they need to fill the spot.
So that was a disastrous trade for the Saints.
Tricky, tricky, tricky.
Well done, Mickey Loemis.
Tricky.
tricky tricky all right up next oh my goodness more business being done absolutely i think this is
going to be wild and that's what i'm trying to plug into here the cults sit at 15 but something happens
let's go to the tape sup losers we have a trade the los angeles rams have acquired the 15th overall
pick from the colts who moved to 19 and get some other shit too uh with the 15th pick in the
2024 NFL draft, the Los Angeles Rams Select, Texas linebacker Byron Murphy, the second.
And I can confirm that this is a thousand percent accurate because Sessler is never wrong.
I miss you guys.
It came so easily off the tongue calling us losers.
It's natural.
It felt so genuine.
And that's why I feel bad for doing something I would do if Ricky was here right there.
just pointing out maybe a thousand percent
was a little high
in terms of the accuracy
because Byron Murphy is a defensive tackle
not a linebacker,
more of an interior pass.
He is.
I mean,
she's not here to defend herself
and yet, Greg, you take it down.
I'm just saying for the information.
She helps the show.
I thought she did a lot of good there.
I thought I enjoyed it.
I liked being called a loser
by Erica Tampa.
I loved it.
And yet you come off the top.
I just, as you do with her.
You have a certain
99.
You have a certain personal tick,
which is annoying multiple
people. But Byron Murphy in a post
Aaron Donald world, like, this is one guy
I loved watching. He would
fit, and I could see the Rams. It's not that they got this first
round pick. Like, we're going to do a little something.
I feel like they're going to do something. Whether it's
trade back, trade up, that's what the Rams do.
I like the idea of
F them picks continuing in
perpetuity for the Rams and never picking the first round
ever again. But this would end that
streak. It has been since Jared Gough.
Jared Gough. It's like
34.
Not 34, but
He's like 31 and 32 years old.
It's an absurd stream.
The last time that the Rams took a number one in the draft.
Okay, here we go.
Now we move to number 16.
Now what's going on, Mark?
Well, we have another trade.
Jesus.
This is nine trades in the last 13 picks.
Are you getting a little over your skis here now with the trades?
No, it calms down a little bit from here.
I think there's going to be a lot of movement.
The Seahawks, you know, I kind of thought in my own little world
that maybe there was a universe where they maybe took Michael Pennix, Jr.,
here but that no but even in general they're willing to move the falcons who went down with that
chief's trade they want to come back up and do what they were going to do before and they take
one of my favorite players in the draft jared verse edge from florida state oh i love it a total headache
he's going to he's going to take that jonathan abraham situation and throw it up
jonathan abraham the curse of john abraham folks it's been a decade if john abraham's on your team
you will go at least 10 years immediately after his departure
without having a proven edge rusher
and they're looking to stop that with Jared Verse.
All right.
Number 17.
All right.
Some of these get a little more normalized.
So the Jacksonville Jaguars,
they're happy to take the first cornerback off the board
and they choose Terry and Arnold from Alabama.
Good player.
Yeah, the cornerback's slipping a little bit.
Miller bit.
Mitchell not been drafted, but I feel like it's possible.
Seems possible.
And I do feel like.
I think the Jaguars would be thrilled
to have either one of those guys
fault to them.
And, you know, I do have to say
that they are a team
that could use a little offensive
mm-f right now.
Right.
Coming off the way last year ended
and losing Calvin Ridley,
a guy they walked back.
I would think Brian Thomas Jr.
if the board felt like this
would be a consideration,
at least for that.
But Arnold makes sense.
I think Jaguars fans
would maybe be a touch miffed
if they don't come out of this
with a weapon for Lawrence,
but sound pick.
Trent Balke is going to do
what he needs to do. We know that.
Excuse me.
All right.
Next up, the Cincinnati Bengals at 18.
I thought the Bengals could go a couple different ways here.
They seem like a dark horse, not to trade, but they, I kind of thought they maybe were
a perfect fit for someone like Brock Bowers, but I don't think, I think in this point
is not going to them.
Maybe the wide receiver, but they go Troy, Fittano, Interior Offensive Line, Washington.
Consider by PFF the best overall athlete among the offensive lineman, very versatile.
I can play a number of different positions.
I know they attacked offensive a line a lot in free agency a couple years ago,
but it didn't completely work out.
And I don't know what's more important than making sure you don't lose Joe Burrow to injury number six.
That's what.
Look, no one's better at stepping up in the pocket than Joe Burrow.
So you want to have a nice firm pocket like that, like that choice.
Firm.
Nice supple pocket.
Nice and firm.
Supple and firm.
Yes, yes, yes.
All right, that's good.
I like that pick.
Solid makes sense.
I feel like they've been working on that line.
since Burrough's second season
and maybe this guy
brings the total stability.
They have plenty of needs
so they can go in a lot of direction.
They do like guys from like teams
from big schools that just played in the playoff game.
Like that is very much,
often from the SEC.
That is their M.O.
All right.
Next.
All right.
Remember, this is where the cults are sitting
at 19 after the trade with the Rams.
Who could forget?
They need, they have an absolute.
Remember.
They have an absolute need.
They have a very young secondary
and I think they're very happy
to have Quinionion.
Mitchell.
Wow.
Toledo cornerback, one of the best zone coverage guys in the league, fall to them.
They don't have a lot of it.
Like, veteran presence there.
They just need some solid guys.
They know that can produce out of the gate.
They hope it's true with him.
They are, like, team athleticism, team just take measurables and see what happens.
They did it with their second round pick, Juju Brent, at cornerback last year.
I feel like they need weapons, but they certainly could use a cornerback, too.
This feels like value.
Value.
God, you.
They, this is number 12, the number 12 prospect and Daniel Jeremiah's big board.
So I think there's, I think if you are a team that is looking at this top of the draft for
defensive players, this sets up very well for you this year.
So, because there's going to be big time guys coming out of this draft.
I'm playing defense and everyone's focused elsewhere.
So maybe you get some guys that other years.
It's how guys like Micah Parsons, not that anyone knew he was going to be Michael Parsons,
but he was a pretty highly touted prospect throughout college.
and into the draft.
And you remember that draft was like all offense and quarterbacks going early
and Parsons falling all the 18 teams of 19 that passed on T.J. Watt
when it made complete sense not to do that.
There's a lot to learn from studying these past drafts.
All right.
Now the Steelers are up at 20 and we have a run.
We have a certified run on defensive backs.
Yeah, they didn't pass on T.J. Watt when they knew they shouldn't.
And they are not going to pass on one of the more interesting players in the draft.
This feels like such a Steelers player that's dropping nuts already.
But Cooper DeGine, cornerback out of Iowa.
do a little bit of everything. And this is a team
that knows that special teams is going to
matter more than ever before. They did get
Corderole Patterson, but
they also know that Cooper DeGine is one of the more
dangerous return men in the league and the kickoff
rules changed. And you remember that
Mike Tomlin used to go for two-pointers more than
anyone when that first became an option.
This guy likes to push the
envelope a little more than people realize DeGine
is a perfect Steelers type player, I think.
It's an interesting fit with a guy he has been compared
to decent amount. Mike Minka Fitzpatrick.
He put those two guys in the same
defensive backfield, even if Dejean is at corner or a slot corner.
Is that crowd applauding a white cornerback going in the first round?
Could be.
It's a steel belt crowd, yeah.
He's breaking, he's breaking boundaries.
You know, let your athletes stay at cornerback, no matter who they are.
We should have Jason Seahorn on hand to make the pick if it happens.
All right, moving up.
Oh, no.
Just when we thought we were done with trades.
We got a trade.
Yep.
How many trades we got?
And what is the record?
L.A. research, we need to dig in on that.
This would be the record, I would believe, by quite a stretch.
The Dallas Cowboys, like, finally, like, now they've said we're all in on the draft.
Not just the offseason.
We're all in on the draft.
They've circled around and said that now that's true.
But they'd have to do something here.
And they want to, you know, Greg, you're hearing little whispers and birdies and butterflies
tell you that people are trading up for offensive tackles.
J.C. Latham out of Alabama.
I think this is where they go.
You know, you've lost tyrants.
So they want to keep building that offensive line.
And I think this is a logical save pick for them.
6.6.360 pounds.
I love that.
Like, Joe Alt is such a freak that J.C. Latham really hasn't gotten
much attention for being this big, this massive.
Not going to say it's Tyron Smith vibes, but just like physically.
I think they'd love to keep Tyler Smith too at guard, which they could in this situation.
Did they get the best years of Tyron Smith?
Probably.
Could he have played another three or four years at a high level?
Potentially.
But perhaps the small.
smart move is to move on, hit on somebody you really like in the first round, and then you have a
true bridge and a young tackle to protect DAC or whomever.
Yeah, I wonder if they could trade up, like you say, Mark, and then you get the right
player, right team, but it's just in a different spot, but you do get credit for that.
Ah, okay.
Credit.
Yeah, if it's in the first round, if you get the right team player and they trade up for
Latham at 15 or something, you get credit.
I think credit is an important word.
I think what Mark is looking for in many ways is credit.
And that, and that's a, there's a little bit right there.
A little extra credit for you.
I agree that Will Levis.
Getting points for that last year was probably just, this is such a lost crap that we're just trying to throw this guy, some sort of.
I got a nine-year-old coming for you.
All right.
Up next, the 22nd pick.
And oh, my God.
So the Eagles are sitting here.
And I think the Cowboys kind of thought, we're not going to get hopscotched by the Eagles for an offensive linemen of any sort.
And so that's sort of what motivated them.
We see them do with that to each.
other on draft day before.
But the Eagles are open for business, and we have a trade.
It's unbelievable.
The number of trades, the sheer number of trades.
It will be 17 trades in the end.
Okay.
And so what triggers trades on draft date?
I think it can be like logic, smart.
You fell in love with someone or you're a little bit desperate.
And the bills are like, we can't sit around deep, deep farther down in this first
round.
There's a number of guys that could go for, but they go for 80 Mitchell, Texas wide receiver,
great route runner, a red zone
menace. They've had red zone issues
at times in the past. I think this is a
sexy additional weapon
for Josh Allen and friends. The conventional
wisdom is Howie Roseman is not
picking 22. He's either going to
move up, he's either going to move down,
but he's not going to move. I don't know what that
means. I mean, if the right player was there,
I guess then he would move up.
Adi Mitchell is maybe among the most
divisive players in this draft. Some people think he could
be a true number one,
like a top 10 type of talent.
but some questionable effort,
some questionable profile
kind of reminds me of George Pickens
coming out a little bit.
But George Pickens, it's been pretty good.
I thought you were going to say Chase Claypool.
Here's from Jeremiah's top 50.
It looks like he gets a little lazy at times
on the backside of routes,
assuming the ball is going elsewhere.
He doesn't have a ton of production after the catch.
Overall, though, Mitchell is an ideal X receiver.
He can make plays when covered and he's a real weapon.
You're also replaced one headache potentially with another,
and that's smart.
And, to be clear, like, I don't think there's any off-field, like, major concerns.
It was just, like, a lot of people saying, like, he kind of goes half speed on half these routes.
And he talked about that, too.
That's nice that you brought that up, Greg.
That's important.
You want to be fair to these young men.
I always worry when you're on.
Greg Rosethal ladies are better.
I always worry when you're on a college team and the other guy is clearly better than you.
And then you get taken ahead of that guy.
And that other guy would be Xavier Worthy, who really was kind of the one at Texas.
All right, let's take a break.
Let's take a break.
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Can you take me higher?
On the draft board.
I think loving up the studio audience
with some drinks was a good idea.
They are sloshed.
Give it up if you're sloshed right now.
Hammond.
Licked pissed.
All right, where were we?
We just heard...
23 now.
The unthinkable that the bills would go forward.
Mr. Mitchell out of Texas.
So now it is the Cardinals via the Minnesota Vikings from Cleveland through Houston.
Yikes.
All right.
The Cardinals, what do they do?
Well, and these drunken Cardinals fans all up in arms that they took, you know,
an offensive lineman in an edge.
And where's this thing that we all want,
a little fantasy play thing?
So let's see what they do here.
Rise up, Red Sea.
We're not done yet.
Gross.
With the 23rd pick in the NFL draft of the year,
The Arizona Cardinals via Minnesota Vikings, from Cleveland through Houston, pick Brian Thomas, wide receiver, LSU, Junior, 6,4, 205 pounds.
Come to us, Brian.
Come to us.
I like how Zum, like, he's very important that he gets in the measurables there.
He gets the height and weight.
I know why this happened because I sent him just at, because I have all that stuff here.
I sent him, you know, the name and the measurables.
And like he, he also is injecting incredible Zumwalt energy there, but he was very meticulous.
Love this for the performers.
Love Thomas.
This would be exciting if you come away with three first round picks.
Again, the tackle.
that would be surprising to me
but Latu, my favorite edge
Thomas, you know, I would give this an A.
Give it an A to the...
Like you'd have to. We don't know, you know,
I don't have a big problem with adding a great tackle
in the draft at any point.
Next year we should see what else we could put on the page
and see if Jason just keeps reading.
On and on and on.
I mean...
Hometown, favorite food.
I think he's got genuine passion
for the concept of these picks.
You can feel it.
And especially their body types of sizes.
All right. Up next, the 24th pick, it's the Miami Dolphins.
All right, the dolphins, some overt needs on defense,
and they love what's happened to them here.
And Greg loves it, too, because it's attached to a sandwich-related prop.
They go Johnny Newton, defensive line in Illinois.
Well, the listeners love it, too, because this was a rainmaker
that Peter Schrager's tweet completely dismissed.
that he's getting taken by it.
So I would be celebrating.
There's a little Rosenpahl v. Schreger.
Christian.
Is that up here that I like?
No, it's just.
No, it's not no.
It's yes.
Well, according to these latest mock drafts,
like he has fallen out of a lot of these,
and I'm sticking with my guy.
Sticking with my guy.
And so is Mark.
Mark's playing to Greg a little bit,
which is.
Well, no, but like, I don't agree that like I'm seeing no one else.
No, he's sort of all over the place where like some people have them in the top 15,
some of them out of the top four.
Would you take Greg on the sandwich?
No, I was going to say I'm not, because it shows no internal fortitude to go back on the sandwich prop.
I'll stick with it.
But the more research I did on him after that conversation, I would not take Greg on it.
How about that foot injury?
That's a concern.
Big man with a foot injury.
Yeah, but it's like, oh, is that bad?
I don't know.
It's like some players are coming in with a couple weeks of, you know, availability questions.
Then they're awesome.
Jason would tell you that he's 6 foot 2, 295 pounds.
Bad foot for a big man?
Yeah, you'd have to look into that.
As OJ. once said, look out.
All right, number 25, the Green Bay Packers, staying home.
Yeah, they do.
And they, you know, they take a Marius Mims offensive tackle out of Georgia.
That's a need for them.
Like, they can't mess around with that.
These sort of, they're perfect for taking one of these kind of, not project tackles,
but guys that maybe you don't have to play them day one.
There's a few of them at this part of the draft.
Tyler Guyton is another with just crazy physical skills.
Again, guys who I have a feeling if they were in either of the,
previous two drafts would have gotten taken much higher.
I believe that they will add a defensive player in the first round, but we'll see.
Sure.
Makes a lot of sense.
Sure.
To me, finally starting over with a new D.C., they need some more talent on that side of the
ball, but obviously adding a tackle with high ceiling.
Marius Mims.
It makes sense.
Number 26, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
I think the Bucks could go in a number of different.
I kind of messed around with this pick a lot.
What I have them doing, you know, they've lost a little bit of veteran presence in the secondary.
They go Nate Wiggins, cornerback out of Clemson.
Todd Bowles still in control.
Lanky.
Lanky, man.
Better or worse.
6-2.
185.
Faded away, Carlton Davis, certainly have a need.
Bill's a need.
And yes, Todd does have a loud voice in that route.
Well, Todd never has a loud voice.
Todd gets his message across.
Right.
Carry some weight.
Number 27, the Denver Broncos.
So the Broncos, you know, they kind of bailed on their,
they were unable to fulfill their quest to move up for a quarterback.
And I think the war room is a little down about the whole thing.
The fan base is wondering if there's any vision for the future.
But what's happened here is you could say there's some value.
This is a quarterback with a lot of experience.
Bo Nix from Oregon falls right into the laps.
Sean Payton's like, you know what?
I like this because we absolutely needed a quarterback.
and this is someone that kind of injects some future hope.
It gives Sean Payton something to work with
and buys everyone a little bit of time.
I want to see Sean Payton with like an exciting quarterback,
which Boonex doesn't really qualify as.
Well, a lot of those guys are gone.
Yeah, that would be six quarterbacks here in the first round.
Always a little worrisome if you get number six.
Right.
Sure.
This feels like when you're reaching for a position
rather than best player on the board.
Has it hasn't handled pressure necessarily.
very well, but, you know, that accurate.
That's not an issue in the NFL, though, because the game slows down from college
to the pros. So I feel like Bo will do just fine.
All right. Next, the number 28 pick, Mark.
It is the Eagles. And I think that Howie Roseman, this is just Kismet.
This seems to happen to them a lot on draft day.
Graham Barton, one of the most versatile offensive lineman in a post-Jason-Celsie world,
can plug right into that line and be a nasty. He's from Duke. He's a senior.
considered one of the most intelligent
smart dudes around like a
pre-snap genius so you can plug right into
that offense and get it. When he
gets it, he gets it. I got to give Mark
credit. This is a marriage I have
not seen predicted out there
and it just, it makes a lot of sense.
He nailed this one.
He also nailed the A.D. Mitchell
Bill's pick because that is the one pick
him and Walker agreed with.
There you go. It's just coming together.
And rest assured, no matter
who the Eagles pick,
they will be universally lauded as incredible purveyors of talent and vision.
Because the idea of the Eagles ever making the wrong decision,
it's just impossible.
So great job, even though they haven't made the pick yet,
whether it is this particular lineman, whoever it is, it could be a punter.
I love that for the Eagles.
That is exactly what you will hear.
from all the football nerds.
Thank you for your op-ed.
Have once again done it.
They have seen what no one else can see,
as you can see,
that lobby filled with Lombardi trophies.
They have done it.
So congratulations.
Let me be the first to congratulate the Eagles
on an amazing night one of the draft.
Put them on my winner list.
That's how you earn respect in the industry.
I mean, hitting them with the Lombardi trophies,
they have been to two Super Bowls
and won one in the last.
six years that's pretty good it's pretty good sure i mean six plus 51 yeah they i'm just saying
there's there's one in the lobby okay we we treat them as if they're the the 80s nineers and 90s
cowboys and the 2000s patriots rolled into one false my goodness great job and now now i'm going to
get buried by the let me tell you something else philadelphia course you are how about the nix
how about your sixers oh here we go with imbivus head down in the locker room oh i guarantee
we're going to win this year. Pick your head up.
Be a leader.
How do you expect Philadelphia's
multiple fan bases to respond to what you've just said
over the last minute? I acknowledge that
now it feels personal.
It feels felt from the first instance
and it hadn't been
it hadn't been truly personal until this moment
and now it is. So
sorry guys, but this is the way it is.
Up next.
The Detroit Lions.
And I've seen a couple
like whispers that they're open to
you can't just a trading out of this big
what are you talking about the draft is in Detroit
you gotta know how to
lather and work this crowd you can't
you're not passing on the front
and they do look it they need help in the secondary
and they've kind of needed it forever but
Kool-Aid McKinstree I have here from Alabama
we trust those Alabama players
and I think that that organization will too
closest thing you'll get to a like an NFL
team is that that football
machine down there you feel like this might be
the pick the fewest people in
the NFL mock draft community
get right just because it's so late in the
first round. And they just
don't value players the same way that other
teams do. They said that as much
as press coverage. They kind of, and they
like it and it's been working. I mean, Jack
Campbell didn't exactly work so far.
But Jamir Gibbs, Jack Campbell, just look at where
they took players last year. No one was seeing those coming.
Sorry, your setup there was what
with the lines
that they will do something. No, no,
there was, I've just seen some like little things
here and there. They would be right.
In Detroit, is he going to walk?
No, he's not there, no.
I don't think they're going to take a guy that's not going to walk.
Well, they're not going to get one of those guys.
Someone comes down the board.
Whoever's there, whoever's left of that 14,
Darius Robinson is a strong, in this scenario, he would still be on the board.
He, he's the one that kind of stuck out as, why is he there?
Just because he might have to wait through the first round.
I see where you go.
That would be, if I could add a sandwich prop that the Lions will take a player that walks.
I mean, I'll allow it.
I would too.
That's spicy.
Hopefully our friend doing the site.
Is this, can we do it?
I don't know.
I want your sandwich.
Yeah, what the hell?
All right.
Good.
I'm taking you up.
The Lions take a player that walks because they have eliminated their draft board.
This is going to be very exciting.
They've narrowed it down to 14 players.
When we get to pick 29.
All right.
It's a big deal for the Lions to host.
And they're not going to do the thing where, all right, now let's throw it live to satellite to, you know.
Coolade's house.
Yeah, to Sanhose.
say like no they want the moment they want the rog hug they want the whole thing and they have
limited their draft board as a result that marries up with my theory that they're not trading out
of the pick is it smart no i think it's foolish in fact but it's about the celebration as much as
anything else this year go ahead all right noted um ravens at 30 they have a lot of different needs
but uh offensive line is one of them and there's still got offensive line in here they take
tyler guyton tackle oklahoma 6 7 328 slightly larger than the three of us put together
in a perlap sack.
You're like a large man.
I think that's savvy.
You're like a big guy.
I do.
Yeah.
They need to start planning for post Ronnie Stanley.
They have a lot of needs and have had a lot of injuries in the offensive line that makes sense.
While we're here, there was some news.
I'm not even going to call it breaking news.
Okay.
We're noting that the Ravens just extended Rashad Bateman, their first round pick from a few years ago for a couple extra seasons.
A little surprising, but that shows they believe in them.
Nicely done, Greg, as co-host here, to hold off on sharing that until we get to.
of the Ravens, so it's all part of one.
It's all a greater hole.
Yeah, seamless.
Very nice. Production. I'm not just looks.
Bimbo.
All right, number 31.
All right. San Francisco 49ers.
Now, I, the one thing that I almost did in this.
Bimbo, we kind of lost Bimbo. It's kind of gone.
It had a nice run, though.
It's out there with BIN, which we don't.
BIMBO comes into the mix every once in a while now.
I think that there's a world where Brandon I.U. could be traded and they move way up
this board, but it was getting a little rich with all the business.
So I had them staying home here, taking Chop Robinson, the edge from Penn State.
And if you go back and look at, because I was looking at Blake Corm a little bit,
like the game where Michigan played Penn State and ran the ball 30 times in a row at one point,
was because of Chop Robinson blowing up the tackle position and causing all sorts of havoc,
largely because of that.
And so they were like, we're just going to get back to 1920s basic football and destroy you up the middle.
Explosive trades guy.
That's what the 49ers like.
And they sneaky, neat edge.
It's a little surprising.
You got to keep populating that.
It deteriorated a little bit around Bosa last year.
I thought they could go tackle two maybe, but we'll see.
I'm going edge here.
Makes all the sense in the world, Mark.
And the final pick of the first one.
And I think it's fitting.
I think it's fitting given the absolute madness of acquisitions
and moving up and down the board that we end with a trade.
Yeah, like at some point, four teams will have owned the 37.
second pick. It started with the Chiefs, then the
Falcons, then the Seahawks,
and now this happens.
There has been a trade.
The New England Patriots
are now selecting
32nd.
And the pick
is Ladd-McConkie,
wide receiver,
Georgia.
Okay, this is going to be
Spider can't be stuffed.
That is troubling for our audio listeners.
That is great.
Connor or I believe under a Batman mask.
We're not for sure, but it seemed like a...
I presume to be offspring with him in a Spider-Man mask.
Yes, that was confirmed offspring.
Thank you to Connor, Jason, Ricky Hollywood,
everyone that helped contribute it to the picks.
Well done.
And well done by the Patreon.
You know, you can take Bell check out of the building,
but you can't take their appreciation for versatile white wide receivers.
You know.
Well, you just have Drake May and Ladd-McConkie.
That takes the most vanilla offense in the league and it makes you think differently.
That's the opportunity that the Patriots have.
The number 32 pick is a very popular trade pick because it's the last pick of the draft
where you can lock in a player with that fifth year option.
And that matters, Greggy, if you really love a guy.
well famously lamar jackson
uh with the second of the raven's two first round picks that year they took hayden
hurst i think they ordered those correctly
unbelievable and mark you are unbelievable now we i could i could throw flowers at you
i could hand you a lollipop but that doesn't why because the draft hasn't happened yet so
i all i could say and gregg i think you would um agree here is
Mark has done the work this spring
and he is
whether or not he
succeeds whether or not
you know and again apologies for with Lance
we brought him on as a guest and to hang up on you
was just straight disrespectful
Greg bringing in a nine year old
to challenge you directly tomorrow night
that feels like it's against the greater goal
to lift you up to lift up ATN
to give us a bigger platform
but I just want to say
great job, great work, and I hope that you
set records this year. Thank you.
I, you know, I understand
the heat coming from
outlets old and young
because I think they sense there's
a little bit of danger here. There's a little bit of
foundational rattling about to happen if this
goes the way that I know of it.
Yeah, and I just want you to know, you know, where
I come from Western Massachusetts, a lot of time.
You show love by
busting balls, you know, by just
like mercilessly trying to take other people
down. That's how we show. But you have a certain
way about you that maybe
is a little different than some of the others in Western
Massachusetts. No, you should come.
Brutal. No.
I will not go.
All right. Eric, how are you
doing back there behind the glass? A. T. Pei.
Doing great. How are you guys?
Great work. I do want to point out that
I was scheduled to announce
the bill's first round pick, but
Mark totally left me out. There was a trade.
Yeah. I did forget about
that. Would you like to? No, no, I don't. I don't.
Okay.
I doubt.
It was 80 Mitchell.
The bill was out of the pen.
I was here.
I'm just messing with you, Mark.
I really didn't know.
Okay.
Well, yes, that did slip the, uh, that slipped.
A lot of elements in a show like this.
No, honestly, yeah.
It's fine.
I just, I had nothing to say.
Yeah.
Sometimes it was ETP's chance to shine.
And that was that was taken from him.
And if you had nothing to say, then I made the correct, uh, decision in the end.
So.
Love you, Mark.
Anything else?
Not until, uh, we're back after round one.
yes um yeah no live stream this year is what it is and i'll say nothing more but we do have
the uh big show tomorrow night immediately at the end of round one we will be recording um our
reaction to round one of the 2004 NFL draft so make sure uh you are you know keep your phone
in your hand whatever device you use to to ingest podcast probably your phone just stare at
at it and then think what do you think eric about we're going to try to get it up about
i don't know let's see the the the first round ends at about 11 eastern something like that
we're going to want to have that up what a you know three hours later from the last pick
figure we give us an hour to talk give me a little time to edit and post and yeah i say before
three hours i say before three hours yeah that's the goal clock me that's the goal yeah actually
don't do that if it's late sorry no it's too late
Um, all right. Thank you everybody for listening. Thank you to Mark Sessler. Thank you to land zero line. Check out his final mock draft to the draft tomorrow. He'd the call.
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