NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Spicy Camp Storylines

Episode Date: July 30, 2019

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you all of the latest news around the NFL including AJ Green missing 6-8 weeks, (8:00) the Dolphins making a coaching staff change one week into training camp, (24:38) and the Cardinals waiving Robert Nkemdiche (26:40). It's not a hot take, it's a hot pepper when the heroes rate training camp in spiciest pepper ratings. (31:26)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast. Go Hawks. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast presented by Sirius XM. My name is Dan Hansus. I'm joined in a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys?

Hey, Dan. Go, Hawks. Can we bring that back? The Russell Wills, that's Russell Wilson ending every interview he's ever given. Go Hawks. There should never be a reference to Russell Wilson or the Seahawks without that voice coming in.

Gohawks. That's a drop that this show needs. Good mandate. It's not a money intro this show needs ever again. Ricky, behind the glass, you're the gatekeeper on the money drops, right? So you choose ultimately what gets reported by Matt Smith. What compelled you to dial that up? Yeah, we are running low.

All right, let's put it out there Cry for help At Erica Tamposi Or is it at Ricky Hollywood I can't get you At Ricky Hollywood Okay At Erica Tampozy is my burner

If you want to hit that one up too Oh now they've switched places Hey what? It's getting confusing The persona has overtaken the person Using the hashtag money tags Right? Money tags

Sure Okay I mean the Ricky Hollywood account Does not follow all four of us On Twitter by the way Oh really? Really? Maybe you three but not me

I'm not even even followed by your non-burner. At rookie Hollywood, unless I'm crazy, is owned by a man named Ricardo Mancini. It might be Ricky. It might be Ricky dot Hollywood. Big deal. Ricardo Mancini is going to get some follows off of that. Yeah. You appear to be a Russian bot.

No, it's Ricky. Dot Hollywood on Instagram and then Tamposi NFL on Twitter. That's messy. By the way, you come from a prominent New England family. You should be able to get rid of the Italian fellow. Oh, he's on the way out, don't worry. All right, good. Welcome to the show.

It's another week, training camp in full swing across the NFL. A lot to get into. In fact, you know, we like to think of different ways to hit storylines around the league this time of year. So, you know, what's hot? What's like a really spicy hot situation going on in the league? What's, you know, a little on the cooler side. How about this? Training camp in Scoville units.

Want to explain that, Wes? Give it a little more detail. This is how you measure spiciness, especially in peppers, is by a Scoville unit. So, for example, a jalapeno might be about a thousand on the Scoville scale. A ghost pepper, about a million. You don't want to mess with a ghost pepper. Have you? In your past.

No, I remember being young, like in my early 20s and somebody being a bar with these little tiny peppers, and they would always dare you to eat them. And I did try one. I don't know what kind it was. I remember thinking it was the dumbest thing I ever did and why was I trying to be macho and eat a pepper? I feel like the man-versed food shows and the diners drive-ins and die shows

that ghost peppers are now put into all sorts of dishes and then the man goes against ghost pepper and often loses. One of those internet things that kind of annoys me that I'm into is if, because YouTube is as I'm sure it is with you, Mark, as well as a family man and Greg, perhaps you as well. The kids love watching YouTube.

And so you'll just come across things that you didn't expect you. what's huge on YouTube is people eating hot stuff and then and then putting it on camera and it's oddly a compelling watch for me I watch a lot of these like how hot the wing gets can you go to the top level ghost pepper wing it's it's kind of a strange thing to be into but I find myself interested by that realm solid wormhole that's interesting when man versus food was on I enjoyed all of the travel and seeing these cities and the food and as soon they did like the hot pepper challenges i was like all right turning this oh interesting there we go

well um you know what we all live on the uh the marble together though we're not so different but some ways we're not it was partly inspired you know this segment by uh spice rack uh a long time friend of the show for a long time listeners moving to los angeles recently and we all what a shock we all now met him in person oh i mean west had already done that previously i have yet to because i There was a party at Hanzas Manor that I left before Spice Rack showed up. Maybe that was choreographed on his part. The Shield Reflection Ceremony was held for everyone on the softball team and adjacent. And it was a great time Spice Rack showed up through some corn.

It's unfortunate, Greg. It's only fair we bring it up that we were defeated you and I by Spice Rack in West. Although we beat him a couple times before. I think we played a total, a lot of games. It was fun. We had a good time thrown corn and Spice Rack

is in an interesting place in his life so it's good to see him during this transition period for him. We played corn deep into the night it reminded me of

my Tybee days and probably to the consternation of your neighbors. I didn't hear anything. So I'm in that since, you know, I'm a family man. Things are pretty buttoned up

at home. I don't have a lot of parties so I think you get that free pass for one night a year as long as it's not something that comes up a lot. You did have the instance at your house

captured someone climbing over your front fence to try to break in. I would have loved to see someone try to climb the fence that night and try to break in an encounter like a bunch of you riled up, cornhole players and spice rack, knocking them out with a one-two punch. Yeah, it would not go well for that individual. All right, so yes, going back to the Scoville units. Yeah, talk about the heat and the spice around training camps in the NFL, and everyone should have their Scoville unit charts in front of them, because whatever your hot take is,

you need to let us know where it sits on the meter. Fair enough. Before that, here's what we're hearing presented by Sirius XM. Let's do some news, Ricky. Everybody right now has dreams, don't they guys? I said it to the rookies. All right, everybody in the NFL, I have a dream of making it in the NFL. I got a dream of winning a Super Bowl.

I got a dream of being in a Pro Bowl. I'm really not into dreams anymore. Okay? I'm in nightmares. You guys with me on that? You got to end somebody's dream. You got to take their job. You got to take their heart.

Are you guys clear about this NFL now? We're not trying to go to the Peach Bowl. We're not trying to go to the Gator Bowl or the Blue Bonnet Bowl. We're trying to go to the Super Bowl. Okay? And to do that, you've got to really try to end somebody's drink. Are you clear on that, Farrell? Okay?

I mean that now. So get into that. Raiders coach, John Gruden, that was posted by the hard knocks. HBO Films account Wes you had a rollicking good night at my house and at some point I remember you saying something

negative or critical about John Gruden and the upcoming Hard Knock season so here's your platform what you just heard did you like that because I think it's ridiculous and silly and he plays the same character he played on Monday night football for 10 years I've just seen it all I don't need to see it anymore

I loved it I can't wait I think it's going to be perfect The statement is contradictory because he doesn't want to talk about people's dreams to make the Super Bowl, but he finishes his comment by saying, we want to make the Super Bowl. Is that, isn't that, I think, come on. I do worry a little because, like, Burger McFarlane tweeted about it or some other former bugger. It's like they've heard those speeches before. Of course.

So you're just worried that he's just bringing back these old speeches, and these are the, you know, the types of motivational tactics that's helped him have beat 10 games under 500 over his last 10 seasons. By the way, the Blue Bonnet Bowl has not been played since 1986. It was a good call, though. It is funny. It is funny. If you're looking for like the funniest name, you either go with that or the weed whacker ball. It's still making butter.

All right, let's get to the news. Bad news around the Cincinnati Bengals once again, unfortunately. Star receiver, A.J. Green has another significant foot injury. Last year it was an ankle. He suffered a sprained ankle. during Bengals practice in Dayton, Ohio on Saturday, and we'll get to that in a moment, why that matters. It is an injury that he's not going to get surgery for, at least for now.

But the best case scenario for a turn is believed to be seven to eight weeks, which pushes you right up against week one. And let's face it, especially when you're doing an ankle injury and a player that involved, you know, speed and cutting ability and quickness, it's probably not an injury you want to rush back from either. So there's certainly a chance that Green's absence extends into the regular season. Terrible break for Cincinnati,

which just West cannot seem to get out of its own way in the last few weeks' offensive line issues with the injury to the first round pick. And now A.J. Green, their most important player is down again. They have, he's missed 13 games in his career, and the Bengals have won 32% of those games compared to the 60% that they have won with him in the lineup

since he entered the league. I think when you take into account his leg injuries and foot injuries of the last few years. He's turning 31 at the end of this month. And I don't know if he's the same player. I don't want to say that the decline has set in, but next gen stats show, his separation per target last year

was significantly down from his previous two years. We talked about this, the superstar club last month, that if you look at what he's done and what's happened since 2015, and even the season when he was healthy in 2017, which wasn't quite massive production, that you would expect from an A.J. Green, you can make that case, and the body perhaps is starting

to show signs of decline. I'm fascinated by this because I think there could be a showdown between what the Bengals want and A.J. Green wants. He's entering the final year of his contract. And immediately you saw the national reporter's Adam Schaefter and then our Tom Pelliserro and Ian Rapport throw out seven to eight weeks at best. At the exact same time, bengals.com was putting out four weeks. And I don't, you know, you never knew. You don't know how people are getting these information. But if I'm A.J. Green, I'd be very cautious about stepping back on the field until I'm 100% healthy when the Bengals seem very unlikely to pay him that money.

And looking even further ahead, what a trade deadline candidate he is. I mean, if he's in the – I don't think they're going to pay him a huge salary. If they happen to start, you know, two and four or something, I can absolutely see them trade in A.J. Green. I mean, it's Tyler Board also, who was just extended, the numbers show he's a much. He's been much more productive with A.J. Green on the field, which makes some sense. But some of those numbers were because Tyler Bard was playing with the backup quarterback because Andy Dalton got injured. So some of that goes. There's that, too. The story of last year's Bengals was they were a quality team until all

the injuries set in, and you're already there. And now here's the Bengals side of this story that is, you know, only the Bengals type situation, that they were practicing at Welcome Stadium at the University of Dayton. And it's tied into the NFL 100 celebration in some way. And there was a lot of talk about how terrible the turf was. Here's what Tyler Boyd had to say, yeah, the turf was terrible. The turf was terrible. I couldn't run any routes out there.

I'm falling all over the ground. It was bad. It was rocks, pebbles out there. Man, it was somewhere we shouldn't have been. I'm not trying to say any excuses, but it is what it is. And Wes is a former long-suffering bangles fan who still is close to a lot of people who do love the bangles. This is exactly the type of stuff. you just kind of shake your head.

I don't know enough about it to put 100% of the blame on the Bengals for this. Like you said, that's part of the 100 anniversary. And I think a team like the Bengals has to sell regionally more than other bigger teams. I mean, that's just a best of like. Yeah, but first things first, it has to be a safe playing service before any of that. There's two different things, though. There's the unsafe playing service, which they shouldn't be on, and that's one issue. But if you watch the injury, his feet get tangled.

You know, I forget the name. Who's the Twitter doctor who always, you know, Dr. Chow? I mean, if you watch the injury, it's two guys' feet getting tangled. That is nothing to do with the turf. He literally trips over Dr. Kirkpatrick, which happened on a couple plays. Just, you know, that's bad luck. So you can blame the Bengals and the NFL. You know, an NFL team shouldn't be playing on a bad field.

But it also doesn't seem to have anything to do with this. And people just ran with it without even, like, watching it. I mean, like, he literally gets stepped up. I mean, to be the old guy, but players played on bad fields for 80s. years and everybody didn't get a torn ACL every time they went out there. I mean, it's just, how much do we want to baby these people? In other bad wide receiver news. Didn't expect that, but I like it.

I mean, play on a bad field, big deal. It's not a guaranteed injury. What are we talking about here? End the show. In other bad wide receiver news, Golden Tate is heading to the shelf, a giant team that could not possibly deal with more bad news and wide receiver gets it because Tate, has been suspended four games for violating the league's policy on performance-enhancing substances.

Tate is appealing the suspension, so he's trying to get it shortened or wiped out, but we'll see how that goes. It usually doesn't go well. Tate released a statement saying that the suspension is a result of a prescription from a fertility specialist. He asserted that upon learning the drug contained an ingredient on the league's banned substance list,

he immediately reported the situation himself to the NFL prior to knowing he failed a test. And we know Sterling Shepard is potentially out with that broken thumb. We know Corey Cullen, blue is ACL. It is not good news for who do you. I mean, it's good news if you're a fantasy football person and you want to draft Evan Ingram, who's lining up to have a massive season at this point along with Siquan Barkley

because apparently no one else is going to stay healthy. It's like quadruple covered by every cornerback on the field. There's that as well. But I mean, do you ever hear a player say, oh, you know what? I did take the band substance. End of conversation. It's all these eloquent, long statements that come out. And someone killed me for believing Taylor Luan.

Someone on Twitter was like, because you took a lie detector test, like, bro, lie detector tests are totally unreliable. Like, for me, it was more the intention around taking one and showing that he did it. But a lot of these guys seem to have deep, rich backstories on why they're completely innocent around anytime they get dinged. And I feel like the next CBA needs to get a little more clear on how to get some of this out of the mix. There's too many of these like stories where everyone has eight different viewpoints on what they took and why. Yeah, but 98% of the league doesn't get in trouble with some of the stuff. It's just like I'm not on the player's side here necessarily. It's just that it seems like too many agents slash players are completely caught off guard by what's in their body and whether it registers or not as a banned substance.

Well, there's two, you know, punishments. Number one from the NFL, they get suspended. Number two is PR, and here's a guy who might want to work in media and endorsements and all that. And so you fight that on a PR level. That doesn't mean some of them don't have legitimate excuses. I'm sure some do. It's just like it's impossible to know which ones are legitimate. But when you read that statement, I did wonder, if he did self-report and that was what he failed for,

you would think that would help him reduce it on appeal maybe to three or something. Like, that just, if that part, I agree. Yeah, that might help them reduce it, if that's true. Giants opened one and seven in each of their last two years. Let's do it a third time. I just wonder how long Eli is going to be under center? Teams don't put up with losing, especially from old quarterbacks. Three weeks.

Let us move on. The Lions have added to a talented defensive line. Mike Daniels, a surprise cut by the Green Bay Packers. lock up Daniels with a one year 9.1 million dollar contract almost 8 million of that guaranteed that from Rapsheet and Mike Garifolo Daniels was

slated to make about 8 million for the Packers so he gets a nice little raise he stays in the division he gets to play the team that cut him twice so it sounds good good to him the Packers have been trying to trade Daniels to either the Browns,

Patriots or Chiefs couldn't make it happen and Mark the Daniels was slated to meet with the Browns on Thursday. He visited with the Browns on Thursday. Couldn't get a deal done. He did get a deal done in Detroit. They couldn't get Gerald McCoy to stay and sign either. But I think, like, if you look at the Lions,

it's a team that I, that annoys me largely, you know, years, years running for lacking any sense of, of an identity. But I think what they want to do, if you look at Matt Patricia, is run the ball endlessly and stop. the run. I don't know what else they offer at this point, but they've got a stacked defensive line. Yeah, it's pretty versatile. I mean, that is an identity. They have a good defensive line. I mean, if they all play well. Mike Daniels, Trey Flowers, Snacks Harrison, Aishon Robinson. Deshawn Hand was really good last year. Those are a bunch of beefy

and versatile guys who can kind of play inside and out. Some of them are pretty good pass rushers, including Flowers and Daniels. So that's something the Lions have. You're right. There's not much. If I'm a Lions fan, I'm super thrilled to about this season, but Daniels, and they paid him a lot of money. That's why he didn't sign with the Browns or the Patriots who were interested. He might get a raise from what the Packers were paying him. He might get $9 million. That's a lot for a guy who gets cut in August or July.

And I know you don't get too excited. Marvin Jones is a very nice player. Danny Amandola is there now, Ricky. You have Germain Curse, who didn't work out with the Jets, but now he's not a lot of receiving talent there. But Matthew Stafford is still a great quarterback. I know he's coming off a down year. He didn't name their best wide receiver.

Kenny Gallard. Oh, I'm sorry, Kenny Gala. Like, I think they, I think they can move the ball through the air, just coming off a bad year. I mean, they have in the past. I mean, he's, like, Stafford's yardage totals have never been the issue, but it's, it has it translated to anything. They're part of my new theory, which is, I think, like, 30 teams could win 10 games in the NFL. And they would still, they would be in that thing. Maybe there's, maybe there's like, maybe there's, maybe it's 28.

I just don't think it's that hard to win 10 games if you get a couple breaks, and they're good. And they're one of those teams. You know, they're towards the bottom, but they're one of those. If I'm a Packers fan, you know, this is a big season where you need to turn this thing around. Am I that understanding or excited that they just moved on from Mike Daniels? Why are you depleting depth on a key part of your defense? Fails risky when he drew so much interest immediately after his release. You don't see that often.

The Lions made another move this weekend releasing running back. Theo Riddick after six-season rap sheet reported this on Saturday morning. Matt Patricia, by the way, Daniel's called Patricia a genius. I just want to throw that out there too. He said he was the biggest reason he signed there. It was like, come on. How about that money? I mean, he is.

He was really Matt Patricia. Known to be quite intelligent. Sure, but he was thinking about Mike Patton, you know, joining, you know, he was thinking about joining the Browns rather or the page. It's like, really it was Patricia. Come on. Anyway, Riddick was there six years, former sixth round pick, so a pretty nice career for a guy was a late-round draft pick, but the lines have some real depth at running back with

Carrion Johnson leading the way, so Riddick will move on and hopefully find another home. He was in Denver Monday morning visiting the Broncos. This guy, he's sort of like the opposite of what Mark Ingram was early in his New Orleans career, where it was a tail every time he was on the field. Thea Riddick can't really run well, so he's a tell that they're going to pass it every time he's on the field. Yeah, I mean, I know we're a few weeks away from the fantasy spectacular. But if you're having early drafts, I feel like ride that carry-on Johnson train. I mean, this move, already he seemed quite underrated in drafts for a guy who I think is a decent bet to get 300 touches.

I could see it now. Carry on with carry on. I did see some, I like that a lot. I did see some fantasy advice unfurled by. Are we on the corner? No, no. This is Ricky Hollywood's corner. She made it clear on Twitter.

I believe it was this morning that her first overall pick will be Danny Amandola, another line. player. Yeah, why not? Why not? That's what I'd say. You don't want to miss out on his career year of 700 yards. Let's talk more business. The Seattle Seahawks and Bobby Wagner get a deal done.

That's good news. You're a Seahawks fan. No more drama. Earl Thomas thing got so ugly. But Wagner signs three years, 54 million extension, 40.2 million guarantees. 29 years old becomes the highest paid inside linebacker at 18 million a year.

Eclipsing the massively overpaid C.J. Mosley. Well, that's what you think. I will say that the Jets got killed for giving C.J. Mosley a money that no one else approached at that position. Well, now he's not even the highest paid player at his position. I know Wagner's a better player, but whatever.

Brown, 7 and 9. Well, why did you need to go there? Like, I'm not... I wonder why I did that. Hmm. Well, Mosley helped Wagner out, who represented himself. I mean, is this? Is this the biggest contract that guys ever represent, you know, been an agent for himself?

You know, I was thinking about that this morning. Like, he wanted to get paid more money than C.J. Mosley. If that's all you want and you have a relationship with your team, say, give me more than that guy, just a little bit more. But then I said it probably wouldn't work because in that there's so much details in the contract and, you know, poison pill type stuff toward a player that you wouldn't want to handle yourself. perhaps he's a really smart businessman and all that stuff is avoided

but did he truly not have anyone else going through this contract for him? He got his advice from Michael Jordan. He spoke to Michael Jordan. He said, I wanted to speak to a guy who's been a player and at the owner level and he got great advice and he said my goal is to challenge myself

and educate myself. But then if you read a little bit further, Bobby Wagner was like, I just want to hear what negative stuff they're going to say about me to my agent and now they've got to say it to my face. It seems like a personal thing To bring it to business

But I get it I mean Michael Jordan Got that from Michael Jordan A much more successful Player than a owner Slash businessman He's been among the least successful Owners

He could sell sneakers But that wasn't really You know That was his brand You can drag Kwame Brown The ground up Anyway No respect Michael

He's you know Do you? Good well I'm sure that I mean I don't know He's done okay business wise Sure I'm just saying Business-wise, but not like running a team.

Right. Yeah, Wagner said, like, he thinks he's already thinking about post-career. He wants to own business. He's going to be negotiating all sorts of contracts. He said, so who would I be if I don't have the confidence to do it myself? Hey, not to mention, he's like a Hall of Fame level player. He has a chance to make the Hall of Fame. So that's the ultimate leverage.

He's so good that helps you in negotiations. At this point, unless he's got a major injury, he's going to, he's got four first-team all-pros in the last five years. He's probably going to the Hall of Fame. Did Michael do his? David Falk was his agent, right? He didn't do it as a player, no, by any means. I'm just saying the shoes. You know, the shoe brand is doing well, I hear.

I guess my point is, like, Bobby Wagner, good on you. Like, you got into the news cycle saying, I talk to Michael Jordan before I sign my deal. Well, he probably doesn't have a lot of sports owners on speed dial, but like Michael Jordan's an owner. But it's like, good for you, Bobby. It's like, it's kind of saying. No, it's like a nice flax.

Like, yeah, I called up Michael Jordan to talk about my contract. But does that really help him? I'm just asking a question. I know everybody wants to be like, oh, great job, Bobby, bringing up Michael Jordan to nail this contract. I think this is underrated analysis by you. I think it's a bit more of a flex than we might let on. Maybe I'm wrong.

I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility. It maybe wasn't a huge help. I am just sitting back and enjoying this. Fair to be skeptical on your part, I think. He's like, hold on, Bobby. I'm busy signing Frank Kaminsky to a huge contract. Every team in the NFL is zero and zero, but somebody still got fired. How about that?

The dolphins making a change in their coaching staff one week into training camp. The team announced Monday it relieved offensive. Oh, yeah, we're jumping in the fish tank. And it's hot. It relieved offensive line coach Pat Flaherty of his duties. Why did they make that noise? Sorry. And promoted analyst.

this name. Dave Dugigliamo. Googs. Goofs. To O-Line coach, Rapsheet added that Flarety struggled to implement the new system, which has been an issue since the spring. So I guess there was some Coach Flores down in Miami. It was on their radar throughout the summer after shaky OTAs and mini camps with the new coach, and they decided to make the move one week into training camp. But this also, Flare is a guy that's been around the block.

I mean, he's been an offensive line coach each. season since 2004, Giants, Niners, Jaguars. Very surprising. Obviously not a earth-shattering development here. It's an offensive line coach, unless you're the old man in New England. Nobody even knows who you are. But, it's surprising. Googs took Skarnakia's place when Skarnakia stepped down over a year. Well, no, I think he did he get a ring? I don't know. I know, but the Patriots then immediately got better. Well, you had to, what are you going to do? Not bring back Skarnakia. Googs was always under fire when he was the Jetto line coach, wasn't he? Yes, that. He was always under fire.

And if you're Flaherty here, you're like, hey, you expect me to make chicken salad out of chicken spit? Look at the offensive lineman he's working with. Jeremy Tunsel's good and name another decent offensive lineman on that team. They have three or four spots that are open. They specifically said that he was struggling to communicate to players in off-season meetings about the news. Like what does that mean exactly? Well, I mean, I think it means like you're trying to implement a meeting. Maybe it's a generational divide, just, you know, looking at his headshot.

I mean, he's probably like they're saying. He's Belichick. Not a great resume builder, though. Cannot communicate with players about new scheme. He's like become what Mike McCoy is to offensive coordinators. Googs, unfortunately. Or Flaherty, I should say, is to offensive line coaches. So anyway, good luck to you, Flaherty, and whatever comes next.

In other news, more people losing their jobs. He turned off the show if he's listening. I said good luck. He's got time now. Other people losing their jobs. Former first round pick, Robert Kim Dichie, no long. a member of the Arizona Cardinals. The team announced it released the defensive linemen on Saturday afternoon.

Three seasons, the former first round pick, struggled to stay healthy, struggled to recover from an ACL injury. In fact, Cliff Kingsbury, the new coach of the Cardinals, very blunt. He's one of those coaches, Wes, that says nothing. Doesn't give the beat writers anything. Kent Summers dying over here. and out of nowhere Kingsbury says that Kim Dice was quote not in shape

cut a day later and he's gone that was the book on him coming out of the draft that he didn't really care enough about football and that was going to be anyone who drafted him was taking a risk in that way it's not that he's not a smart guy with he is a smart guy he's got varied interests but I think most GMs want a guy

whose life sort of evolves around football take a look at these first round picks of the Steve Kime era Kynbaum 2018 Josh Rosen 2017 Hassan Reddick 2016 Kim Dice

2015 DJ Humphreys 2014 Deon Buchanan who was not re-signed 2013 Jonathan Cooper who's played for about eight teams by now and been released by about eight teams

and some extracurricular activities by Steve Kime as well mixed in That's the disaster And that's why I It still has the job That's pretty impressive Kyler Murray can be his best first-round draft pick by Thanksgiving.

Well, that's why if you're a player, you see, like, you would probably have a little feeling there's a double standard here. But Comteche's problem was he just didn't play very well. It's like it's a sliding scale for all of these things. If he had performed, they gave him a lot of snaps when they could. And he really just wasn't great. There were, because obviously I was getting a lot of Kim Dechie updates throughout his career with the Cardinals. He was playing better before he blew out his knee.

But he didn't do the rehab. up his fifth year option and the writing is typically on the wall when that happens or it does not happen. It's their third coaching staff in three years, right? So it's tough to survive. That's what's happening in the news. No song. We're not getting it. Oh, I thought that's not going to. Oh, you guys, you guys want a song? This could be it. How do we never talk about him again? All right. I'll do a song. I just assume this is why we're started 10 minutes late. No, actually.

Keem Dece, you fell out that window. You fell down the draft board. Now you're falling right out of the league. What have you done, Keen DJ, what have you done? We should be at the start. But instead, you look to be gone. You seem emotional. That's what's happening in the news.

I was just picturing you draped, like, very sexually over a piano, like Michelle Piper and Fabulous Baker boys. Thank you, Wes. Do we get a song when he signs with a new team? I mean, he's going to get another change. I think his career is not over. A little bit more upbeat. As long as this guy is in the league, he's getting songs.

But I got a terrible feeling this will be the last we here. No, no way. Former first round pick. Didn't do anything in three years. Blew at his knee. It does. It showed effort issues. He might get, you know, picked up by somebody.

Want to put a sandwich on it? I don't know. No, I would never bet against Keem DJ. Okay. Come on, bro. I mean, it's a big, it's integral to your. career here, you know, as the host of the show. So you've got to be rooting for him.

Worst case, he gets, he's in a training camp next year or something. He's got a wannabe. He'll get some training. I essentially root for almost everyone that's not playing in the New England area of the country. I hope Keem DJ comes back and gets his career on track. It would be great for the show, great for my songwriting. But there's no promises in the National Football League. I'd like to see him up in Foxborough.

We like people with, you know, varied interests, position and flexibility. It does sound like a guy that Belichick would sign and then get cut. All right, let's get to it now. Yes, Scoville units. Everybody's talking about Scoville units. You can't turn a corner of the Internet and not hear about Scoville units. What are the hot stories? What are the spicy stories, the spicy scenarios, the spicy takes, the spicy spicy spicy.

Greg Rosenthal, you're all about the spice life. Get us going. I'm all about the spice life. I don't even know where to go with that. Let's start with Kyler Murray in his first few days at Arizona Cardinals training camp. And it really struck me watching his interview with Kurt Warner yesterday on Inside Training Camp Live on Sunday. Just how smart he was. And like, I don't know, if I was a Cardinals fan and I'm watching that interview,

I would be getting very excited that this is the guy leading our team. But even more exciting was the quotes from Larry Fitzgerald. about Murray, which struck me, and he said, I've never seen a quarterback come in so quickly and be able to command an offense. I mean, from day one, he's out there checking the different plays, sliding the line, different projections, getting us in screens when blitzes are coming.

His understanding of the offense is crazy. And it got me thinking how he's kind of played in this offense, some similarities to this offense before. And, you know, that's the whole idea behind the Cliff Kingsbury, Kyler-Murray thing. And isn't that a good idea to, like, make your number one overall draft pick as comfortable as possible and make a system around his skills

and that maybe he's going to be able to, you know, fight past or kind of skip those early days that a lot of rookie quarterbacks go through where he's not comfortable and he can start out a little quicker. And that's why I'm giving this a unit of $5,000, $5,500,000 on the Scoville scale. That's right around chocolate habanero.

Chocolate habanero? Wait, I think we're working on different scales. Yeah, the scale that I'm, does not go that high. Interesting. I mean, all right. We have different scobles. I'm going off the one West Center earlier, yes. The Serrano.

The Serrano. It's in the Serrano area. Serrano, this is how they described Serrano. Don't mistake the Serrano for a jalapeno. Your mouth will be on fire. Whoa, whoa. They look similar in appearance. The Serrano is twice as spicy.

I totally agree with you. This is, I take a lot out of that quote. Yeah, it's spicy. But to make it clear, this is pretty high up on the spicy scale. He's going to, he is going to, he is going to, to really, I think, set the league on fire. I think this is going to work out. And Kimebaum, for all of his failures,

and let's call them for what they are in recent years, he's going to get what Mike McCaghan thought he was going to get when he drafted Darnel, he'd get the extra years. I think Kime might come out of this flying high. Although I wouldn't put Kime at the top of the list of people who made this happen. The reason I always thought that this was a possibility to move on from Rosen and Pippen.

Kyle Lerley was because of Cliff Kingsbury from day one, this felt like a real deal. And those comments, I don't know, the Fitzgerald, that those are new, but he also said similar stuff during OTAs where they talked about longtime veterans looking utterly lost on offense because they had never seen anything like this scheme at the NFL level. And Murray from the start has been a teacher and perfectly fluid, which to your point makes the pick so sensible. And I think we have to also remember when you're running four wide nonstop and you add his mobility. This is someone

that's going to devastate defenses early on in the year who are trying to catch up to what's going on here. She's a small player. He is very small. Much lower on the scale, but also in Arizona. Maybe a little Thai pepper, you know, very low. Kishon Jont. They drafted three rookie receivers. Two of them got a lot of attention.

Only one of them's playing with the first team. The new Kishon Johnson. Sixth round pick. Playing ahead of Andy Isabella and Hakeem. Any relation? With the starters. I don't think so. Spelled very different. So chocolate abenero for... Yeah, I've just thrown that in as a little extra.

Now we're on the same page on the Scoville, and that's important. That's vital. Yep, we're all on the same page. Mark, you're up next. I am going to, as I readjust to pick the new... I'm going to go Red Savina-habanero pepper, which is a registered scale of 350,000 to 577,000

on the Scoville scale, baby. Right beneath the chocolate habanero. Right beneath because I think there's some stuff to figure. you're out here, but I am all on board with, you know, we saw the Patriots lose the Super Bowl and then come back the next year and take care of business. The Eagles last year had an offseason, and I think they're going to come around this year and they're going to win the NFC. I have them going 6'0 to start the year, and they're talking about Carson Wentz right now. And if you read with the daily reports coming out of Philadelphia, that Carson Wentz looks

completely differently, much more comfortable this time of year. His health is back, and he is doing well with Sean Jackson. I think they talked about Jordan Howard playing very well early. They've got a lot of depth in the backfield. They've got a great offensive line. Love their defense. They've got the best two tight ends in football. I think they're going to be both of them a lot to handle for defenses.

And I think you've got one of the best owners in the NFL right now in Jeffrey Lurie, who is super committed to winning. We'll do anything they can. They're an analytics-based team. I love the whole Howie Roseman situation. The Eagles, to me, are the hottest thing in the NFL. NFC. I think the Cowboys in that division is a hot mess outside of Dallas. And I like that Dallas is in there because it keeps you on your toes if you're to the Eagles too. You can't just

roll through like the Patriots do. You're going to have some competition in the NFC East. But I'm saying Eagles Super Bowl. I'm telling you right now. So yours is more a hot take. It's not a hot take. It's a hot pepper. July 30th. Now how many other teams are you going to predict to win the NFC this year? Three to five. But I just think that there's some feel around them already. You know, reading what the beat writers are playing out day after day, I just think if I'm an Eagles fan, I'm very, very confident going into the season. With all due respect, and I agree with you, I think the Eagles are going to be very good.

That is not a very hot take. This is an NFC superpower. I think a lot of people think they're going to be good. I'm going to drop you all the way down to the Hungarian pepper, 5,000 to 10,000 Schauville. Well, stick seven of those in your mouth and see what happens. I'm sorry. You cannot put it up in the top tier. Can't do it.

Well, I hit the third highest, so it's not like I went for the ghost pepper there. Streets are talking. It might be more even like a pepper and cheney. All right, move on. Now that's disrespect. Move on. Right near the bottom. All right, Wes, you're up.

Well, I'm not sure I understand, like, the segment as far as the training camp news part of it. This is why we should talk about these things before the show, but okay. But I thought it was more specific to players. So Paris Campbell is a guy who's getting a lot of, consistent. consistent hype ever since the Colts drafted him. And Frank Reich just told Albert Breer this week, basically, you know, you saw all the videos of the Colts draft room, and that was mostly our scouts and defensive players. The one guy I wanted, I jumped up and down when we took Paris Campbell because I said,

we got to get this guy. Everyone thought he was just a slot receiver, and Frank Reich said, we thought he's a legit NFL receiver, footwork, hands, route running, intelligence, the kind of person he is. We just think he's a total wide receiver. and then he starts playing in the training camp and now Frank Reich says Paris Campbell is a legit NFL I'm going to be a stud receiver play

these are the plays he's running in the red zone not just a slot receiver he's making big plays in the red zone to me the Colts are one of the most exciting teams in the league and this guy's going to be one of the most exciting rookies in the league let's see what kind of Scoville I've got

I have one in mind I want to hear what you come up with Cayenne I was right in that zone I was going to throw out Tabasco 30,000 to 50,000 Scoville units You love them?

I mean I take cayenne daily and it's hot But it's tolerable Well you're only taking a little dash of it Correct I mean I'll put it on You can put cayenne on anything It tastes good

I don't like just take the jar And just dump it into my throat necessarily Most people mix it with other spices, right? All right, let's move on. I want to talk about Darius Geis. You know, tough times in Washington right now with the Redskins who the Alex Smith injury kind of just set that whole organization back. Not just so much because Alex Smith is a, you know, a superstar quarterback because he's not,

but it just kind of knocked him on their ass, it seemed. And they go and they get the kid quarterback, Dwayne Haskins. And what you kind of forget is that, Gice had a lot of great buzz last summer, and then he pops his ACL in the first preseason game out for the season. Now, I'm not going to draw parallels to what RG3 and Albert Morris did together as fellow rookies. And I almost look at guys as a rookie. Albert.

What did I say? You said Albert. Alf. Alf Morris, excuse me. Alf Morris was his name? Alfred. Alfred Morris. Yes.

Remember, when they came into the league and RG3 lived. it up and Morris, he killed it. I don't know if we're going to see that, but I think Geis is a guy to keep an eye on and something to get excited about if you're a Redskins fan. Right now, all you hear about is Trent Williams and the drama going on with their star left tackle, which doesn't seem to be getting any better, by the way, with each day. So keep an eye on Geis who already is practicing and he had a hamstring injury that, you know, combine that with the ACL injury and people were saying that he is injury prone.

Greg, I saw that you mentioned this or wrote about this in your latest column on training camp. Winners and losers. I really enjoyed this soundbite from Darius Geis on the idea that he is injury prone. Because, you know, a lot of people talking about now how I'm injury prone and this and that. I only had one injury that was big in my whole career. Tell him. Tell him. For one.

The biggest injure I've ever had my career was an ACL. Yes, y'all heard about hamstring. and that, but that comes from the ACL, not just for me not taking care of myself. How can you call somebody an injury prone that's had one big injury? Do y'all know what injury prone means? That means somebody that has different injuries every other day and cannot do nothing. I had one big injury. So, man, kiss it.

And I want to point out two things. First of all, he said that to Darren Hayes, who works for WUSA-9. So I want to give Hayes credit. I don't know if you notice this, Greg. Hayes, who did a nice job, sensing that Geis wanted to get something off his chest, set him up, then got out of the way. And then I want to give credit to and check this out on Twitter. Maybe I'll retweet it so it's easier for listeners to check it out.

I want to get props to the cameraman of WUSA 9, who had the wherewithal to, as Geis got into his monologue, pan the camera over and Emmy Alert slowly, slowly zoom in on Geis as he continued his ran as ending with Kiss My Ass or whatever it was. Great points. I didn't even think about that. But what you need, if you're a director or cameraman like that, is you need a star.

So you've got to give Geis a lot of credit for doing the Nate Burleson, Michael Irvin, look in, like, fiery look straight into the camera. Like, I don't know. We haven't even really learned that yet. We've been trying this stuff. I mean, that's a veteran move. What a production it was. Everybody did their job in a great way.

But, yeah, Geis, it's going to be a run-friendly Redskins team. Because we assume Haskins will start all the games or most of the games. and they're going to want to work him in. So I like Geis as a player this year. I like him as a personality. It's a spicy personality, clearly. So I'm going to give him on the Scoville scale. I mean, he's not out of control, but he's a Scotch Bonnet.

He's a 100,000 to 350,000 Scoville. Got to go Scotch Bonnet there. So that's his new nickname, I think, Scotch Bonnet. A lot of Scotch Bonnet in Caribbean cooking, Jamaican, particularly. There you go. Look at Wes. Wes. With a flex out of that.

How long are we got to? We always talk about, we joke about when Erica's got to leave us. When is West leaving us to start his own restaurant? I feel like this is going to happen. It's so much easier to just cook for yourself and then not have any responsibility like owning a restaurant. Although shout out to Dan for another great job barbecuing for a big group of people always enjoy the meat. He just drops it down. He just comes over with 15,000 pounds of meat and just drops it and just says, okay, see you later. Good job.

I'd like to use a football. analogy, but since at the party, I used the baseball one. I'm kind of in the, kind of the Harold Baines type here. I know he went to the hall and didn't deserve it. But a guy, you know, a really nice guy, a guy that has a really nice career and doesn't look for accolades, just does his job day in, day out, does it for a long time. I'm the Harold Baines of the grill. I think it's excessively manly to grill for a large number of people like you, like you have done.

So kudos to you. I got some steaks. I got some cheeseburger. It was great. Keep it simple. I'll give you Danny Tartable. That is horrible. Wait, he had a prime in Kansas City before the Yankees overpaid. He was a stiff.

I'll give you Mackie Sasser. Mackey Sasser would not be a good one. All right, one more time around the horn. Greg. I'm just trying to think of someone that's like a workman-like hitter that just needed more at bats. Because I think you're selling yourself short. I mean, if you got even more time behind the grill, actually time to shine. But I don't want that.

See, that's what I, I just want to come to work every day and do what's asked with me and produce. You're good with the reduced work. You're like turning down endorsements. Yeah, I want to bat like fifth or sixth in the lineup. I want to drive in 100 runs, but you don't need. A techie Matsui. Yeah, I'm a Matsui type all the way with an occasional star turn. Including like your obsessions off the field that's who he had.

Exactly. Let's go to New England where I'm going to talk about. about a New England Patriots receiver by the name of Maurice Harris. Haven't heard much about him? Well, he's an undrafted guy who was with the Redskins for three years was a returner, more of a special teams guy.

I don't know if I feel good about this, but basically everyone who's watched four or five days of Patriots training camp says he is the best receiver on the team. And according to Greg Bedard of the Boston Sports Journal and a few others, Evan Laser, who used to work here, a few others that say, and it's not even close. Maurice Harris is by far the best.

I'm going to give this Poblano. That's pretty close to the bottom. That's 1,000 to 1,500. Because, okay, I'm looking at this news and I'm thinking, Mo Harris, you know what? He's probably going to help the Patriots win a couple games this year. That's just what's going to happen. That being said, it's very early in training camp,

and it doesn't speak well for the rest of the group that Maurice Harris right now is their best receiver. Way too spicy. I gave Maurice Harris in this bit of news a slice of, of plain white wonder bread with an orange cream sickle. That's how hot it is. Here's the thing, though. I would have thought he would have maybe been even a long shot to make the team.

Now I feel like this guy's making the team, and based on all this, I'm like, you know what, he'll probably be a nice little role player. He'll be a nice little role player that'll do some things on special teams. He'll probably make some big plays in a big game that'll make me appreciate him. But he's not going to be their number one. Then he's contributing, like, huge plays to the season. I'll put a sandwich on that, that he makes the team. But the B-Rodders are plugged in because in the second half last season, 40 catches, 432 yards, touchdown.

Oh, wait, no, that's his entire career in three years. Oh. He couldn't crack the Redskins rotation with Josh Doxon and Trey Quinn. I don't know, man. This sounds like Training Camp Trophy. No, come on. Yeah, it is. It's training camp three.

Oh, yeah. It's too bad that the offensive geniuses in Washington couldn't figure out how to use them. I wonder if they could have a better use of. of him in New England. Turn on you, Maurice Harris film, and he's the guy not making play. A nice little special teamer, third receiver, 570 yards, four touchdowns. I bet he ripped it up at a northern Guilford high school. No doubt.

This guy, he's like, he hopes to be as good as Jabar Gaffney. I mean, Jabar Gaffney was on a team that scored 34 points in the AFC champions. Big guys, Jabbar? His eyes were exploding out of his head. That was his brother, Rish. I always confuse those guys. They would have won that damn Super Bowl, too. They didn't win because their best receiver was Jabbar Gav.

I don't know. They scored 30 points in the AFC championship game. Their defense wasn't lousy. Please. All right, Mark, you're up. You got to hand out a little fatale pepper. Now, this is a yellow pepper typically in its coloration, but I'm making it green in this exercise because it's going to Sam Darnold.

And I know that you're going to think that I'm just pumping him up because it's another bit of psychological warfare between Dan and I. But I actually feel like Jets fans. You know, we watched Quentin Tarantino's movie, and I won't give any spoilers away, but there is a snippet inside of it of Joe Namath's 1970 film, C.C. and Company. It's a biker, epic, starring Ann Margaret. And Jets fans, like, look at that and say, yes, that's my quarterback. And when it was made in 1970, he was the center of the NFL universe.

And Jets fans have had nothing to root for at the quarterback position since. You got a bunch of people still walking around in Joe Namath, Jersey. Well, things are changing, and I think that this is an arrow up for S. Darn, baby. I'll tell you why. He was last year, I thought, in one of the worst NFL offensive schemes around where they ran the ball heavily. Steve Wilkes loved it. Sure he did. They ran the ball heavily on first and second down and put him into more third and long situations

than almost any quarterback in the league, a terrible situation for a rookie quarterback. I like their wide receiver core if they can stay healthy. they've obviously got levy on bell you've got some players on defense you got a great safety the Jets to me I am not just saying this I would not be surprised at all if in week 17 they were alive

for a wild card spot I don't think that they're going to be some floundering five win six win thing tugging S darn around from place to place this can be a different type of team I feel like if you look a lot a lot of people are picking them in that seven to nine range seven to nine range

so you're maybe flipping those numbers they'll kind of be more than 9 to 7. Like a lot would have to go right, but I think it can go right. Sessler has joined the battle. The psychological warfare, he has joined the battle. I don't think so. You're making sense. Because for me, the idea that Darnold is just going to be a middle-tier quarterback

that takes eight years to warm up. I don't believe that. I think he's going, they've already talked about, and I know it's Josh McCown, who's his friend, but was at practice and he's looking at him as an analyst now, I said that he saw markedly better footwork, just a much more comfortable player that was this weekend. Adam Gase is not a perfect coach,

but he does a lot for quarterbacks, and I think he will for Darnold. When Darnold gets almost overlooked in terms of the entertainment value that he can bring, like he is a toolsy guy. I mean, he could be a better, you know, can move, has a big arm, can make any throw, like a more fun, hopefully better, Jay Cutler for you.

I think Adam Gase, rightfully, is a guy that gets killed. Like, who is he really a quarterback whisper of? Adam Gave's, I should say. Did I say Jay Cutler? You said Adam? You mentioned both. Oh, my God. But Jay Cutler, he made a little bit better.

But he hasn't really done much. You're not going to give him any credit for what Peyton Manning did in 2013. Before I make any decision on whether Adam Gays can coach offensive, I want to see what he does this year. Because I think there are tools there, and I think Donald especially, a year-two leap guy, is this is where I think Gase will be judged. And if he bottoms out, you talk to some people. I've been talking to some people. maybe he's not a guy that is going to be around very long gays maybe he doesn't have a lot of security there he maybe can't he won't survive a really bad year uh in year one so i think there's going to be pressure on to immediately get this offense going in the right direction or you can see a change uh but i'm looking forward to it i don't think this is a you know super bowl team or necessarily a playoff team but i expect them to be 500 or better i think you should all right west July, August, September, that's Smoky season.

Smokey Brown. John Brown draws more camp hype than just about any receiver no matter what team he's on. And last year before Joe Flacco was benched, John Brown was on pace for over 1,000 yards. He was their best red zone receiver. He was going to catch 75 or 80 passes. And now he's in Buffalo,

where the quarterback has a stronger arm than Joe Flacco and turned some guy named Robert Foster into a legitimate deep threat last year. Now John Brown is the deep threat. He's also the intermediate threat because he's a really good route runner. He's also a red zone threat because he's slippery and elusive in the red zone.

And he's going to be easily the best weapon on this bill's offense. I might not go caps a capsaicin, 15 million Scoville units, but we're going ghost pepper. One million Scoville units for, The Josh Allen to John Brown connection.

Here would be my fear if I'm a bills fan or someone that's not totally sold on Allen yet as a prospect. John Brown stays healthy, smoky, just blowing the top off over and over again and the pass of sale over his head or down the sideline and he carries him out of bounds before he can get a second foot in. Maybe the ball gets thrown at double coverage. Is he a guy, is Josh Allen ever going to be a guy that can develop into a downfield passer with accuracy that you. need. I don't think the downfield accuracy is the issue. Man, and why do you got to just have a stray there for Robert Foster? Undrafted rookie putting up 550 yards.

He was athletic. I like Robert Foster and just calling him a chump. He's sort of a one-trick pony. Go run fast deep. Just saying he outgained a lot of guys taking in the first round. I guess I'm saying, Wes, we know he could throw it. We know he can throw it where he wants to throw it. Well, analytics have him as a better deep thrower than deep thrower than Joe Flacco was last year.

That's pretty good. What about Joe Flacko five years ago? That, I don't know. I did not see the analytics on that. I think you're right. If John Brown stays healthy, he's going to be a problem. We love Smoky. We've always been supporters of the smoke.

Just can't stay healthy. You like the bills a little bit. I do. I think they're frisky. I think the Jets and the Bills are frisky. I thought what you were going to say when you were saying it's down to the last week for the Jets is like that division's up for grabs, which I wouldn't surprise me at all. Oh, here we go.

I mean it. Is that that surprising that the Jets and Bills and the Patriots would all be in the mix at the end? Well, it's not surprising if you're saying the Patriots. I just don't need to say that in the mix. The Jets were in the mix like a couple years ago with Ryan Fitzpatrick as their quarterback in week seven.

Like, it happens. It's not that crazy. They weren't in contention for the division. It's about week 16. Yeah. They only lost that division by two games in the end. No, you're a misremembering. No, I agree with you.

Because they beat the Patriots in week 16 in position for a while. I don't think it's crazy. It just said, why would I in late July come trumpet about the Patriots losing the division? Let's settle down on that. Finally. Let's wait until Maurice Harris' number one receiver in November. I can't wait to root on. Every time Maurice Harris makes a catch all season, I'm just going to stand up and put my fist right in his face.

It's going to be like August 16th, and the headline is going to be Edelman's back. A week later, you never hear Maurice Harris's name again. This will be fun to track. This has to be a sandwich prop, Maurice Harris. Oh, yeah. Either now or in a month, something has to be put down. But you might have Greg on the hook right now, because things could change in a month.

I'm not getting involved in anybody else's sandwiching. All I said is, it's going to be a nice role player. Well, you said Danny Amendoza is going to have a career high 700 yards. What if we put that as the over under for his... No, that was a joke that if she's taking him number one overall, if she could hope for Danny Amdola's best season ever, it'd be 700 yards. So how much is this impact player going to do if he's not going to get 700 yards? I told you. I told you. It was 550 and 4 and some nice special teams play.

Why are we even talking about it? We couldn't do it. Partly because like the Patriots are, you guys are saying that this is like an undefeat, unbeatable team. No, no, no. And their top wide receiver right now is Maurice Harris. I thought that's kind of interesting right now. I'll give you 550. Some issues.

All right. We couldn't finish. this segment on the Scoville scale without going to the top, all the way to the top. We needed it. 1.4 million to 2.2 million. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about, but a Carolina Reaper. Getting a lot of hype lately in the pepper universe. Chicago Bears, kickers competition.

Listen to this from the Chicago Sun-Times. Elliot Small Fry. He made six to seven. field goal Saturday. You know what he said? I want to try 60 yarder. After all the all this bad energy around the bears and their kicking game going back to the playoffs last year. Set me up at 60. Bang, split the uprights. What about crazy Eddie Pinheiro? What is he going to do? Is he going to wilt? He knows. Is he going to wilt in the summer heat? What do you think? Is he going to wilt? Yes. Uh-uh. He had also had six or seven. Matt Nagy coach of the bears. He said, hey,

Small fire I just hit from 60 Nagy called it a dealer's choice Coaches asked Paniero did he want to try the 60 yarder? This is what Pinheiro said. Nah, you guys hit 60 yesterday. We're going 63 today.

And you know what happened? Drilled it. 63 yard kick splits the uprights with distance to spare. Wow. Mentally, I was just staying calm. I know I had to do my job. My job is on the line every day.

The crowd of 8,0813 chanted his name at Olivier Nazarene University. I've never seen so many people cheer so loud in a practice before, Piniero said, I've heard it in a game, but in practice, it's unreal. Carolina Reaper! Nothing. Well, number one, if I'm the Bears, I keep both of my roster and just, use them interchangeably in games just to toy with the opponent. And then what would be better for football and life in general

than the Bears get that playoff win next year. And it comes from a 70-yard overtime game-winning kick. And you just say, F-U kicker issues. I have a rolling now. I have another idea. Maybe their top-ranked defense shouldn't give up an 85-yard touchdown drive with the game on line. That kind of got left, you know, missed in the big picture.

How about this idea? You obviously have two guys in Frye and Pinero that won't miss. There's a lot of risk, especially with Trabiski you don't know, throwing red zone interceptions. Every time you cross the 50, I don't care if it's first in 10, you bring out the kicker. You bang that kick. If you hit about 760 yarders, do the math, 21 points, your defense handles the rest.

Take it home. That's football. That was spicy. Do you know why it's called the Reaper? Why? Because it has a tail. Oh, I thought it's because it's killed people. I would have thought it led to death.

In April 2018, a campaign. Case report of, quote, thunder clap headaches in a 34-year-old man who was hospitalized for a few days after consuming one Carolina Reaper Pepper in a contest. Don't do that stuff, guys. Thunder clap headaches, do not sound. Thunder clap. That sounds like a fate worse than death. That's the bear's kicking scenario right now. For the opponent, after what's going on in camp.

Absolutely, no doubt. All it's very positive. So good news at Bears' camp around the kickers. There hasn't been much of that in a long time. All right. There you go. Scoville Talk. We'll be back Wednesday with another show, so make sure you check it out.

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