NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Star players on the move

Episode Date: February 19, 2016

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal – discuss all the latest news from around the NFL, including Panthers defensive end Jared Allen announcing his retirement, and the latest on the Kirk Cousins contract negotiations with the redskins. Then, the heroes go in-depth into the 2016 free agent class, including which players are on the bubble of being cut this offseason. Then finally, the heroes dip into the old ATN mailbag to answer a few listener questions.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Around the NFL podcast is a three-time off-season champion. Welcome back to another edition of the arrangement. on the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by a room, Phil, with Heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. What is happening?

What's up? Mark got a new car called Sashi Brown. Wow. Sashi 4. You did. A lot of car drama. Congratulations. Well, I named it.

I'll say real fast because it's in L.A. when it rains, and Dan had to do a long drive of zone last night. It could essentially like a. massive snowstorm and yonkers broke out and like all hell is taken over the earth. There are a lot of unnecessary cliches about Los Angelenos. I've been here for a better part of seven years or so. You're one of them. And one of the things that does check out as a cliche, though, is people can't drive in the rain.

Yeah. It is a total meltdown. There are cops everywhere. There are people with scared looks on their faces. When the sun goes down, when it's raining in the dark. Get it. It's like a bunch of eight-year-olds driving. They break into programming.

They break into programming and talk about it. Like Stormwatch 2016. I'm on the edge, man. Water falls from the sky. So I'm driving home with this, like, I just leased this car. And I'm like, there's vehicles everywhere. Everyone's honking. There's ambulances, police cars.

I thought I'm certainly going to get killed. This was a terrible idea. But when I got home and I realized the chaos that the beauty that came out of the chaos, I had to name it Sashi 4. Now I love this car. Sashi. I love Sashi. Oh, Mark's all in on a new Browns employee at the top of the front office.

What are these cliches about L.A. that are untrue? What's that? What are these cliches about L.A. that are untrue? That all the people are fake and plastic. No, it's not. That's very true. West, we haven't been here long enough. To say that means you haven't talked to enough people that live here.

I mean, the majority of people are very disingenuous. I mean, you're meeting the wrong people. I just hope that this naming after a new Brown star I hope his Brown's tenure goes better than Colt McCoy, who you named your son after. Yeah, no, it's, you know, Colton's become a, that's taken on a life of its own, our second child. But you're right, there is a habit here that needs to be inspected. There's also that annoying new Facebook feature where it will basically illuminate things that you posted from years past. And Mark shared with us this morning that one year ago today, we were at Indiana,

And it was a picture that Mark had posted on Facebook, shot from Lowe to make him look as powerful as possible and impressive as possible. Mike Petten. I know. Oh, wow. It's now the erstwhile Cleveland Brown coach. The good thing is Colton, your son, what a handsome boy. And a big, a big shoulder guy, he now has a pretty good chance to have a better Brown's career than Colt McCoy ever did. Oh.

That's fair. You think? Wow. I mean, James Harrison will also end Colton. He's got a show. Well, no. James Harrison will be in his 46th season at that point. This is the Tuesday or Thursday edition of the Around the NFL podcast, sponsored by nobody.

People are asking why we didn't bring up Scott Trade. It's over. They can come back if they want. Yeah, I think Scott's got to be in negotiations to come back for next season, hopefully even sooner. Because you know what, the off season, those are some of our best shows. And we get big listeners. Well, Scott Trade is, you know, good guy, Scott, but he's almost treating us like he's the guy that graduated from high school

and had the high school girlfriend is now going off to college, so he breaks up with his girlfriend because he thinks he's going to do better. Here's the thing. If he finds out that there's not something better than the around NFL podcast, and let's be honest, he probably won't, and then it comes back to us, we might be with somebody else. Sure. That happens in relationships. You come back for Christmas break.

Wow, she looked pretty good. She tightened up a little. It's not personal. It's just business. So just, I'm going to throw out some possibilities if you're listening right now. If you would like to advertise because we are now free agents once again. Reebok, great shoe manufacturer, Chrysler, major car company, Dick's Sporting Goods. That's kind of the white whale for this podcast.

Why? The Girl Scouts of America, you know, good cookies. That would fit. Victory Tailgate, who made those boards that I have in the backyard. and the WNBA. I like that. Because they need the publicity. The WNBA sponsors NFL's around the NFL podcast.

Their season is in the summer, so it's perfect. Don't they get more free publicity than any sports league ever? I know. Maybe this is what they need to push them over the top because they thought Rebecca Lobo would do it, but it didn't work out. So maybe this podcast will. Do you have any suggestions, Wes, is somebody. There's an obvious one.

What? United States Postal Service. They could do. use some buzz they could they've got a lot more competition now than they did when i was there 20 years ago um today's show is a good one yeah so uh u s postal service hit us up uh today's show solid one i like it uh we're going to talk about uh a new piece that gregg debuted on nfl dot com are we okay by the way we're good yeah there was a lot of a lot of uh twitter messages at us like trying to take sides or whatever it's right it's not like that people people don't realize we spend all day together we're

going to lunch we're doing things that you know sometimes in families you're going to have little fractal stuff but you're going to come together stronger than ever and i'll say like after the fact as as as a catholic and greg's a jew uh yeah so it's similar i believe you just sweep it under the rug and just let it stay in there just push it down push it way down and just leave it there Yeah. I feel like you guys got it out a little bit. Yeah, exactly. The healing process began.

I got what I need to. Dan, sure. Yeah. What? No, I was going to say, I got, I got out what I needed to. I'm not going to, I'm not going to let it fester inside. I think the Jewish way would maybe be more just like honk about it for a while and then move on. I don't know.

Yeah. I'm not a real Jew. It's gone. It's gone. It's good. Maybe, maybe to come up, you know, after a night of drinking or something, you never know. It's volcanic, you know. But we're good for anyone that's.

asking so you don't need to send any more tweets I'm more worried at the end of that by the end of that that that I was at the beginning so concerned about both of you right now dance convincing we're good as he calls it volcanic we're good we're good it's just going to erupt someday I'm just joking uh we're going to talk about Greg's piece on the bubble 36 aFC players could be cut and we'll talk about some NFC players as well so these are you know The well-known players, I don't know, Jeff Cumberland, for instance, I believe, made this list. Well, I've got kind of the big names, and then there's the lesser names towards the bottom. So he's on the list, Cumbi.

He's on the list, and that's all that matters. Cumbay! We will also dip into the old ATN mailbag, which we haven't done in a few weeks. So we'd like to check in with our listeners. So that'll be fun. And, of course, we start as we always do, or almost always do, with some. news. And to do that, we've got to bring in, she is a great woman, a very productive woman, a problem solver, as we saw again today before the show, all the drops disappeared on our

iPad, where you keep them. And what did you do? You fleshed it out and made it work. Sydney, Lassid, what's up? Hey, guys, what's going on? Running out of time with you, aren't we? Yeah, it's coming up quick. I've got till March 4th is my last day. Good. We'll only be on to our 14th producer. I'm not exaggerating. I have a plan in place that I'm going to reveal right before you leave, Sydney. They'll make sure that you remain with us. All right.

I'm excited to see what that turns out to me. Oh, no, Wes. No. Well, I think our last podcast will probably be before that. Okay. Let's do some news. Sure. This was the part where I was going to ride off into the sunset,

but seeing how there's no sunset, I'm just going to ride off. well done sitting this it's exactly what i'm talking about uh jared allen who for 12 seasons was one of the premier pass rushers in the nfl he uh posted a message on social media thursday along with the video the an excerpt of which you just listened to uh in which he literally ran off uh into the distance there was no sunset uh but that was it he's calling it a career 12 years, 136 career sacks. That puts them inside the top 10. A great player, I think a Hall of Famer personally.

And a first team, all pro, four times. Chris Wessling, you are a historian. 22 sacks he had one year, too. Not so long ago. You're a historian of the game. On a 3 and 13 team, I believe. Do you believe, Chris, that Jared Allen is one of the premier definitive defensive players of his era? It's one of the premier pass rushes of his era.

I believe that. I think he's third all time with most, it's a weird number to say, but most seasons of 11 plus sacks, only Reggie White and Bruce Smith have more, which is a testimony to his consistency that he would get at least 11. He would get double-digit sacks every season. Well, he had a different sort of career arc where he was a good player but not a great player his first three years. He also was a problem for the Chiefs.

off the field. He had a couple DUIs, had a suspension, had some dustups with the front office there, ends up getting traded. But has his best year with the Chiefs in his last year, he led the league in Sacks. And then really he had the best part of his career with the Vikings. Four first-team all-pros. A lot of Hall of Fame players that do not have more than one or two first-team all-pros. Ricky Jackson, who is a pass rusher who just made the Hall of Fame. He doesn't have any first team. So to me, Alan's probably a guy that gets in at some point i don't know if it'd be right his problem is from his era you've got demarcus ware julius peppers dwight freeney robert mathis you've got tons of pass i'd put him behind all those guys

except mathis i put him ahead of mathis it's impossible to know at the hall of fame like how this stuff goes down but there are lesser pass rushers in the hall of fame than jared allen well you go from that era also john abraham jason taylor jason taylor there's a lot of guys who are very similar to Jared Allen. Listen to this year by year and I know sacks can sometimes be misleading but I love consistency over the years and this was

his first 10 years starting in 04 sacks by year 9, 11, 7 and a half, 15 and a half led the league, 11, 12 and a half, 14 and a half, 11, 22 led the league almost at the record. 12, 11 and a half before he kind of went into his decline of course in those final seasons but remarkably

consistent guy and everybody's always paying money and trying to find in the draft or through free agency a pass rush or this guy did it for a decade did you any of you guys notice his little video where he's riding off into the sunset on a horse yeah that was what we just listened to you know where he got that idea i don't know sydney here here we got it this is west on super bowl sunday so i're not super bowl wow well west going far back here production most likely to walk off into the sunset well pay Manning would be the obvious guest, but you're not an obvious man, Wes. It's not Peyton Manning because he's not going to win the game.

Okay, that was wrong. It's Jared Allen, who kind of has been a shadow of his former self over the last two years. Borderline Hall of Famer, but I think he knows there's not much left in the tank. Well, I got the whole Super Bowl prediction. Well, you should have had Sidney edit that portion out. Yeah, you did it that. Siddy, that's why we have to let you go. You got to clean that up a little bit.

That's a good job. You know why? It's been a good run, guys. It's about me, Sidney. Alan part of it's about me Alan part of two pretty painful losses that I can think of when he was the closest to winning a title

the Brett Farr of losing in the Superdome game he had a very good season that year and then of course this Super Bowl loss is a tough way to end his career but he's a rare guy that was part of a blockbuster trade in the NFL those don't happen anymore listen to this trade when the chiefs traded him to the Vikings they got back a ton of draft picks and they turned those draft picks into Brandon Albert and Jamal Charles,

whereas the Vikings turned a huge Jared Allen contract into something that actually played out. He stayed there for the whole contract, which you normally don't see, but he was that good. He lived up to the five or six-year deal, so a big win-win. My favorite Jared Allen play is also one of the great bloopers of the 21st century in football. It was the play Detroit Lions' own 16 season. Dan Orlovsky rolls right. right through the back of the end zone.

It's Jared Allen who was in pursuit on the play. You could read about that in the pain rankings, NFL.com slash pain rankings. Wow. That is one of the episodes of pain for the Detroit Lions. Skilled callback. Emblematic of that season. Jared Allen. I feel like we might see more of him.

He's going to be on NFL Network. I know a little pop in the coming weeks, and it wouldn't surprise me if you see him more on NFL Network or on some. Good dude, by the way. Yeah. Very active with Charity, the Wounded Warrior. his project always was very plugged in that stuff and I'm sure he'll continue in his post career moving on Greg Jennings wide receiver not afraid to talk always seems to have an opinion

especially this time of year was on ESPN this week had this to say about Ryan Tannehill saying that he was not a elite quarterback this is the Dolphins quarterback this is no knock on Ryan this is not Ryan's choice he wants to be free he told ESPN. He wants to have that freedom, that liberty at the line of scrimmage, as most quarterbacks do. When you show your quarterback that you trust him, you give him freedom. We don't know who Ryan Tanahill is, but we want him

to be this great guy, this great quarterback, this franchise quarterback, but no one has given him the freedom. So I guess really what he's saying, he's putting it on the coaching staffs rather than the quarterback, but the point of the matter is he's been in the league a while now, Ryan Tanahill. I don't

know if I can buy into that. You put it all on this handcuff scenario. I don't think he's the only player in that locker room that would feel that way on any level. I mean, but Tanna Hills, Greg Jennings has been around elite quarterbacks. He has a measuring stick during the work week, every practice, every film session, and on Sundays to measure other quarterbacks by. He's being honest. This really got on my radar.

I know Dolphins fans tweeted me all afternoon saying I was making too big of a deal about it, but Greg Jennings spent last offseason heaping praise on Teddy Bridgewater, and then for him to use the word far, from elite and then say you can quickly tell if one has it or not to me that's pretty obvious he's talking out of both sides of his mouth right but he's saying that he's far from elite that's for a hundred million dollar quarterback that's pretty telling it wouldn't it be stunning if he said anything well it wouldn't be stunning if he said nothing but it'd be stunning if he said he was elite i mean what is Ryan tannan he doesn't have to touch the elite i could have said it after his

rookie year like that he has all these traits but tannerhill's a guy who does not seem to have much. And you could argue the other way that the coaches haven't trusted him because maybe he hasn't shown them reason to trust him. Yeah. And there are beat guys in Miami that have said that the feeling on Town Hill guys have kind of wavered on his ability at this point. I mean, he's been there. What has it been the start of there? Three or four years now. It's time. If you're ever going to actually make the leap, the time is now or it's not going to happen. They can get out of his contract after next year. Well, to be fair, at least we probably won't have to write about this too much longer because Greg Jennings is not going to be around that team.

He is one of the 36 guys that I say he's going to be cut. And he's for sure going to be cut $4 million on the cap this year. And he barely produced anything. Am I crazy or do I remember that after he was on the way out of Green Bay, he had negative things to say by Aaron Rogers. Yeah. That was kind of like a joke that turned weird. They were making fun of each other back and forth.

And then all of a sudden, James or Greg Jennings didn't really have a leg to stand on. The history of Greg Jennings. Moving on, the Redskins and Kirk Cousins. Everyone expects them to be together by the kickoff of the 2016 season. But according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rappaport, he reported Wednesday that the two sides have not gained traction on contract talks. Of course, the safety net here is the franchise tag, which is just under $20 million for a one-year deal.

is this, Greg Rosenthal, anything other than a little ploy set in motion this time of year by agents and players to get things moving? Well, we tried to stay away from this story because it seemed ridiculous when it first came out on ESPN and it was that they've broken off talks and then later that day multiple reports. No, they haven't broken off talks and oh, they've broken them.

They are talking but they're not going to have any. Who cares? It's a week before the Combine. So these reports giving play-by-play on a, a negotiation mean nothing. Well, they've broken off talks until they start talking again. I mean, that's, they're going to continue to talk. Doing the dance.

Usually the combine is when that all really starts. So what you're saying is it's just not news. It's not news. Well, and by the way, if they never talk again this offseason, you can franchise tag them. I'm not going to let Kirk Cousin just vanish into the mist. And I don't think they might not talk a lot before March 1st, which is the date you have to apply the franchise tag. And that's a problem for the Redskins because the franchise.

tag's $19 or $20 million or whatever it is. And so Kirk Cousins thinks, well, that's the baseline for where I want to start getting paid, $19 or $20 million a year. And that's a problem. I would keep them on the franchise tag because I don't really believe in Kirk Cousin. I think it would be a boss move by the Redskins to not franchise him and not sign him to a long-term deal. And see what you can get on the up-in-market, Kirk Cousins. I don't think he can do better than the franchise tag. Who's their quarterback if it doesn't work?

I don't know. You'd be screwing. You'd be cutting off your nose to spite your face. but I just think it'd be cool. Well, what if they wind up with RG3 again, disaster? Colt McCoy. That will never happen. Yeah, so much ado about nothing.

Is that what you're saying, Greg? I'm just saying I wouldn't get too worked up about all these reports. It's all about leverage. In other news, meanwhile, on the throne of sleaze. Jared Mayo. The leader of the Patriots, this is Greg's copy, leader of the Patriots defense since he was drafted in 2008 announced Tuesday that he A leader, yeah chosen to retire.

This difference. In pure, two-time pro bowler AP defensive rookie of the year in 2008. Instagram message with a, I didn't read the message, but it did end with retiring a Patriot. So Jared May who had big time moments in his career faded as he approached age 30, walking away, ending his career as a pat. Before you turn to Greg, I think it's funny that a guy who played a half a snap of game last year gets the thunderstorm clouds on the throne of sleep. Those were no joke. I didn't even really understand that.

Yeah, that's a good point. Well, no. They were going to cut him if he didn't retire. This guy was the heartbeat of that defense. You can see from the reaction. He really was a leader, but he wasn't a huge factor on the field since 2011 when he started. He got a big contract, and then he started a series of pretty big injuries, torn pectoral, torn ACL, you know, a lot of injuries.

Back of that football card, you know what stat it doesn't have? Couldn't measure his heart, can't measure what he meant to that locker. And we'll find out in September. Well, he was, to me, what I remember most about him is Belichick has always loved him from the time he came out of Tennessee, but also that he's the bridge from that Teddy Bruske, Willie McGinnis group to the Jamie Collins, Chandler Jones. He was. He came at a time when they were terrible at drafting, and it was the first good,

defensive draft pick they had had so long. And you're right, Belichick said he's one of the smartest. He said as a rookie, this guy is one of the smartest players of ever coached, and that was his rookie year. He was a first team all pro once. And a rookie of the year, there's only so many people that have those two honors, but his career fell down. I didn't quote Greg and West are saying this.

These are the seeds of unrest, and there's nothing ahead but darkness for Patriots. Greg, this is bad. I know. I expected darkness to come a couple years ago. I'm ready. that the nine and seven seasons are arriving whether it's this season or next it's going to happen they've had their they've had a great run i don't believe anything i'm not buying a word of that tom tommy boy is going to be 39 this 12 and 4 uh finally here's the thing this will get west excited riled up at the very least uh chad hennie did not play a snap last year for the jaguars he hasn't played since september of 2014 has been a backup to blake mortals but guess what just got a 100% raise from his last contract two years is $8 million according to our own Rand Gettlin. I just want to throw that out there.

His 2014 contract was two years four million. Chad Henney's 2016 contract. It's two years eight million. It's good to be a quarterback. Not so much a blogger was. He got 100% raise for doing nothing. Just because Blake Bortles likes him. I still get paid like a paper boy.

And I do my job as well as anybody out there. This is an outrage. And it's about me. Wow. the live about me i like that i support west getting more and more money in all endeavors thank you what more do i need to say great has been in my corner we are just powerless as a group anything you have to say mark well i think you did you leave one newslet amount no i didn't think so yeah well we just learned before we came up here we probably would have posted it if we didn't

have to rush up here into the podcast but 49ers announce that al guido has been promoted to President Greg, your thoughts? Waits there? Waits there? Wait, I thought you... Your thoughts, Greg. I thought Paraga... No, no, no, no. Al Guido. Let's go down the Al Guido Road. Well, to me, Guido hasn't really shown that much. Like, you're betting on his future, like, potential.

But where's the production? Biggest Guido since Father Guido Sarducci on Saturday Night Live. I feel like kind of a shot, Greg. Was that a 1977 Saturday Night Live reference? Whoa. That... I think it's like... Come back to us.

I think it's like 83. My dad listens in the off season. He loved that one. Wait, I thought we really... It's like Dan Aykroyd was the only SNL-cast man that matters. I don't believe that. The fish thing was hilarious. The bassimatic?

I was not... I never got that. I thought we really were going to have another big news item that dropped right before we got here, which Mike Malarkey has named his offense for 2016. And that name is... Exotic Smash Mouth. Oh.

Oh, come on. What the heck? He said that's what they used to call it back in Pittsburgh with Cordell Stewart. Exotic Smash Mouth. Has any team ever been more doomed than the Titans in 2016? Well, I mean, if we're going to get on a West for referencing 1970s SNL skits, we should get on Mike Malarkey for every time he references anything he accomplished in coaching, it was the Tommy Maddox-era Steelers in 2003.

That should be the Titans motto. Titans football, welcome to 2003. And that's... Exotic Smash Math. I think we'd get the T-shirts. What nonsense. Total Malarkey by Mike Malarkey. Roto World appropriately destroyed his comments.

It was an enjoyable read. And as we just have. And that's what's happening in the news. Before we get to our on the bubble discussion, I just wanted to bring up one thing with you guys. You know how I wanted to, it was a big push that I made last off-season. I wanted to bring back. Duh.

Winning. And I thought there was a chance to bring it back into the cultural, you know, Hemisphere here. Mill you, thank you, even better. And it just didn't work out because, you know, Charlie's health woes, which I could not see coming. Well, you say that. And yet there was a long time between when you were trying to build it up

and when the health problems came about. And I didn't really hear it that much when I was going around the town. Can I be honest with you? There was kind of an extended rollout. I had kind of this thing a big picture. Right, right. And right when I was really starting to push it, a dude gets the virus that causes AIDS.

What am I supposed to do about? So I got to move on. Never had a chance to go anywhere. All right. Well, how about this? So that was you being honest with me. I got it. Okay.

I got another one, though. I got another one. And this, going to bring this back i think it's it's it's it's election see okay was yeah i've got some issues uh it's election season uh every you know everybody at the water cooler they're talking about politics and who's going to be the next president so i'm bringing i'm bringing it back city and then we're going to watch it in dc to take back the white house yeah i'm bringing back the dean scream yeah oh wow for mont doctor our dean i'm bringing it back

And again! It's timely, something people can connect with, and smart. Well, it's two of those things. Well, now, none of the is true, but does it have... Bring it back. Now, you know, the winning, that had a big cachet. Of everyone... Winning.

Of everyone in this couple of rooms, I'm including everyone back in, you know, behind the glass, Sydney and everyone helping. How many people, if they heard that clip, would even know what it was? I would not know what that was. The Dean Scream? If someone had just played that cold, I would not know what that was. That's why I'm bringing it back because it's something that I think if it comes back in the right spot. I think people will be whether they're new to it or it brings back some sensors in their brains.

Like, wow, that capture is an exact feeling I have that I want to share. Yeah. Yeah. Can we hear the whole thing? Because I think just the scream is really tough. And then we're going to Washington, D.C. to take back the White House. Howard Dean, for those that are too young, this happened in 2004. He was a Democratic candidate during the primaries that lost in Iowa, the first caucus, finished third.

And he was trying to pump up his own troops. And when he dropped the scream, it became. such a moment to mock him that he never recovered as a candidate and he was out of the race. He was almost Ross Perot-like in that he was not going to get votes, but this was in the middle of the Bush White House where a lot of people were angry, country divided. Howard Dean, he was channeling people's anger, half the country's anger. But then the minute the votes happened, the whole thing went south. And it had a lot to do with that moment.

Dean's screen. He just said five minutes ago come back to us, Wes, and then you pull this whole room. This would go back. This would be great stuff for our political podcast. But you know what? Maybe Dan is on to something here. Because you know what kind of candidate would have made sense in this 2016 culture? A lot of anger.

A lot of really people at both, you know, who's angrier than people that support Donald Trump? Who's angrier than Bernie Sanders? Maybe it's Howard Dean's time. I mean, I can only hope that like a life-threatening endless doesn't kill this bit too. Well, yeah, exactly. You just have your fingers crossed. So this, whenever you feel you need to rally the troops, you get overly excited, you feel like there's something deep within, and you must explode. There you go.

The Dean scream back in 2016, if I have anything to do with it. And now we move on. Wes? I can't identify with that. Okay. That was supportive. We should see if we can get Dean on the show. No.

He is far too busy. The only SNL cast member that matter was Joe Piscopo. I wish I could have a tall one with him, a Tabby Island. Dan now impersonating Damasek's impersonation of Wes. It's the best I can do. Oh, my. On the bubble, players that could be released, Greg dropped a bomb on the internet today. AFC was the first team that he released.

And you broke it into categories from potential surprise cuts. to a man that had a category of his own, to a category Broncos hope it doesn't come to this. I think we know who that is. And then, of course, strong candidates for release. We could jump around on the list. We don't need to go through them all. But I want to just, number one, right off the top.

And this one is something I talked about with Connie Fox on NFL now on Wednesday. You have Arienne Foster is, I guess, the strongest candidate for release. And it's money, it has to be mostly money about motivated. He blew out his Achilles. He's been getting hurt almost every year. He had two surgeries, in fact, last year.

But is due, Greg, six and a half million with another half million in bonus money potentially. And I would think that I guess the Texans are just ready to move on, right? I'm not confident he's going to get cut, but a torn Achilles tent. I'm at number one. Well, it's not necessarily an order of most. Oh, I see. But I do have them. And I just kind of put big names.

You want to put some flashy names at the top, get people's attention. Pull back that curtain, Rosenthal. Aaron Foster. Well, he is a good candidate to get released. It wouldn't shock me if they kept him. But his age coming off that injury, I think they like Gary and Foster, but they also just might be kind of ready. He's not from this Bill O'Brien regime.

I think they're just ready to start over. Don't they need, they don't really have anyone there. Here's a thing. That makes sense. Bang, bang chicken and shrimp. What is it? Bang, bang chicken and shrimp. He's not going to be the guy.

Here's the thing. That makes sense, like, in theory, when it's early February. But then you think about, well, if they don't bring him back, he is the best player on your offense if he comes back healthy. And then what are you going to do? I mean, do they have, what's their cap situation? If they have the money, why not just keep him and see if you can give you another year?

They're in decent shape relatively. Like most teams, they don't have major, major problems. They have other guys that they can cut too. Vince Wilfork would be one of them. Brian Cushing's a guy with a huge cap number. And yet it seems like they really see him as a team leader and the glue and what they're all about and so that he's not going to get cut,

but he's paid like a superstar for a guy who doesn't really play like that. It surprises me a little bit also. I had a feeling that Foster might retire after that injury. He seems like a guy that wasn't going to play well into his 30s, but we haven't heard anything like that. Wes? Yeah.

West still recovering from Dean Screamer. No, I was thinking I'm already moving down to number two on this. Go ahead. Because Mario Williams, to me, after the franchise tags are over, and after Mario Williams gets cut by the bills, he's going to be one of the top five names on our top 101 free agents list. I don't know. Really? Top five? By the time you take away the franchise guys, I think he will be.

31 years old, and I don't think Erie and Foster's ever been a problem for the Texans, but he also seems like a guy like maybe they'd be fine just kind of moving on with. And Mario Williams even more so, I don't think has a reputation as this guy's the first one in the building, the last one to leave. You know, he's a leader of the team. You don't hear those things about Mario Williams. Now you're getting the 31 years old. He's always relied on a lot of talent.

I don't know. He was like the worst voice of PR for that organization all last season. I mean, you can't have a player squawking against your coach and his scheme all year long. Jim Schwartz didn't have any problems with him. No, I mean, he's, and maybe he would fit in Philadelphia. There you go. He will not lack for suitors, though. And he could still have some good years.

How do you get paid? All I mean is that there's a, it wouldn't shock me if Mario Williams does not have a Julius Pepper's end of his career where he keeps it going another five years, you know, at a very good starter level. It wouldn't shock me if he's out of the league in a year or two. This guy's made a lot of money, although he owes a lot of money to his ex-fiancey, whatever. That's in the weeds. Now I know after looking at this closer that it's not an order necessarily because then Dwayne Bo, who's number 15, should be number one, obviously. quick description here last year's worst free agent signing should be one and done i bet sessler agrees and i'll slide down here to cameron wake who is under your potential

surprise cuts i really love first of all i would love cameron wake uh you know signing with the jets and giving me a premium veteran pass rusher uh i also like in this copy gregg you call him sneaky old is that a thing yeah he's sneaky old because you think of cameron wake he should be in the prime like he should be about Mario Williams's age but you forget about those CFL years this happened Dan it down in the newsroom said that and mark said oh yeah he's like 31 no there you go sneaky old he's 34 I don't count anything anything anyone did in Canada doesn't count so I subtract that from his age wait what did you say back in anything I love Canada I'm sure it's a nice place but in anything that occurs in Canada I remove from someone's age

Do you, Greg, do you put anything Canadian-related? Does that get sneaky in front of it? Not just age? I like that idea. I love Canada. I've met a few sneaky eskimos. I had a sneaky great time every time I go to Montreal. It's not really that sneaky.

Mark, what have you done in Canada? Actually, I have been to Vancouver one of the best times we've ever had. So it wasn't really a shot at Canada. I'm just saying it removes from your, maybe I'm saying it energizes you. Mark, you could also make the argument as sneaky old. Why is Wes laughing? I don't know where it came from. Actually, I know what Greg's saying, but it's a compliment.

It is a compliment. It stuns me. It stuns me that you're older than me at all. We'll find out if human resources thinks it's a compliment. Considering that Greg's your mentor and he's five years younger than you. Well, I don't see age that way. Greg is just a resource of experience, knowledge, and wisdom. I do want to talk about these thoughts for a sec because.

Cameron Wake, Jordan Cameron, and Brent Grimes are all in very similar situations. Big names, and I think they all have to take payouts. I think Cameron Wake is going to stick around. Ian Rappaport reported they're going to work on an extension maybe to lower his number, kind of like Terrell Suggs did. He's 34 coming off a tour and Achilles. Brent Grimes is the same way. I think he's going to have to take a payout.

And if you're the Dolphins, do you keep Jordan Cameron on your team after what happened last year? He's due $7.5 million in salary. I like Jordan Cameron, but they didn't use him as much as I thought they would. I don't think he's worth a $7.5 million. How about this? How about this? He gets cut. Browns get him at a bargain rate.

Too tight end set. Jordan Cameron, Garibange! They rip up the NFL with a rookie quarterback. That might be happening. They just parted ways with Jim Dre. But doesn't Cameron feel like a guy? They rip up the NFL! Ah!

I think Hugh Jackson would like that. Doesn't Cameron feel like a hot and cold guy? One year's good. The next year's, he fades off the map. But, I mean, part of that is Miami's offense. And Cleveland's offense, for that matter. Maybe just needs to go somewhere healthy. I looked at their roster, and they are one of the only teams that has some cap issues.

And they have a lot of holes. They have a lot of free agents. They have a lot of guys that they could cut. Like, Coamese is another one off the top of my head. There's many more. Just not a good team. Have you noticed what's going on with this list, Dan? What?

Something sneaky going on with this list. It's grown in size by nearly 100% from last year. I think it's a surrogate for Greg. You know how he doesn't pick games anymore? This is like how he puts skin in the game. He's invested in these predictions now. And he likes to go in-depth. So when, like, say, Donald Brown gets cut by the Chargers,

he can say, I called that! Oh, I know. I realized I left a few people off and I was annoyed because I didn't want to change the number. Scott Chandler should be on there. You're in kind of like a battle with yourself because and that's, I forgot Dwayne Bowen to the last second and that's why he was 50. You got Jeff Cumberland on the list, though, good for you. I snuck Cumbie on there. And it was nice of you to put Dennis Pitt on the list like he's, you know, a real NFL players.

I appreciate that Greg went around the room and surveyed fans of various teams to get their input. It wasn't a one-stop shop because the boss operation. really invested in this project i like west's theory this is your outlet great very good uh let's check out the nfc side of things and uh just you know some interesting names that i you think can maybe uh materialize elsewhere and do good things rg three i don't know about that and west you wrote a piece about uh let's say he's gone from washington but some people had said maybe houston makes sense, but maybe not. John McLean believes that they want a first-round draft pick or an early-round quarterback,

and they're not interested in Sam Bradford or Robert Griffin III. And their owner has basically said that, that we think we can get one of these prospects. A well-plugged-in Cowboys writer, John Jack Taylor, made a big strong case that they will not go after RG3 as well, which I found interesting. I wonder if the Texans really regret not taking a guy like Blake Bortles when they took Clowny at the top of the draft. You can't look back and really do much about it, but, I mean, Bill O'Brien's whole mission when he came to Houston was to handpick a quarterback, groom him, and instead he's been dealing

with, you know, third-tier junk. Could? Yeah, that's true. Could RG3 be kind of on the unemployment line much longer than people maybe originally thought? Or will somebody jump. I think a coach is going to, someone somewhere is going to jump on the idea, not as a starter necessarily, but bring him in.

Yep. elsewhere on this list you have mike wallace interesting where his career has gone the last three years because he went from uh you know big years with ben ralphusberger to a huge contract with miami that didn't work out minnesota looked like a bad match from the very beginning and that's probably going to lead to him leaving town after um was just one year there was just there one year one year now what kind of market would mike wallace have he's still a younger youngish guy sneaky young perhaps He is sneaky young, but he's sneaky unproductive. I mean, 11 and a half minute.

He's made a lot of money for not a ton of production. You don't want to be on this list two years in a row. That's what I was. Living off of 2011. That's what I was realizing as I was doing it. Some people that were on this two years in a row, Mike Wallace was one. Trent Cole, actually a couple of the Colts. Trent Cole, who got cut by the Eagles last year.

He's going to get cut by the Colts this time. And Andre Johnson, who we all thought was a good signing by the Colts, but I don't think there's any way they're going to bring him back for another year in Indianapolis. So maybe you don't want to sign another team's junk. Yeah, that's generally how it goes. Throw somebody else out there, Greg. I think Victor Cruz is interesting because I've reached the point where I'm not going

to write about this guy anymore. I don't consider him an NFL player. And I don't know why people still treat, like, news about him as he's still a star. I've never seen a skill position player come back from Patelor tendon surgery and be what he was. I'm not convinced Victor Cruz can ever be a starter again. There was a time, and I think this is probably the reason. First of all, he's a New York player. Second of all, before O'Dell Beckham came,

Victor Cruz was like the big name. I mean, that guy, he was a huge star when he came out of nowhere with the great story and all that. So I think people are invested in him just because of his history and what he was able to do with Eli Manning when he was healthy. He's on the team. I mean, he's still on the team, and he's due $10 million. So you've got to talk about him.

He's got to go. You don't have to talk about it. You got to figure something out to do with him. He's one of the highest paid players on their team. He won't be on the team at that salary. I think, yeah, I think they'll find a way to try to cut him. It's similar to Ryan Clayty was a guy I put on this list too. I thought, oh, maybe the Broncos would keep Ryan Clayty,

or they'll figure out a new thing. But, like Cruz, why would you assume that Ryan Clayty can play anymore? I mean, not to be harsh about it, but he's missed two of the three last seasons with serious, serious injuries. And even when he played, like Cruz, who played a little bit, he didn't really look like his old self. They tried to trade for Joe Thomas. I think that speaks volumes about what they think of Ryan Cleave.

Victor Cruz is an ideal fit for Connor Orr's Portland Riverhogs. Ooh. That's where you go revive it. Some of the surprises in the NFC I wanted to keep on it. Would you guys cut Nick Foles even though you have to pay him his salary? Get him out of there. Are you so annoyed with the Nick Foll's experience? Especially because you are starting over in Los Angeles.

That's a team that needs to rebrand that position completely. And that's too depressing to have Nick Foles at quarter. back when you get to L.A. I'm not that. $7 million something that you're just stuck paying him anyway. I'm not that turned off by the Nick Fools' experience, but it was clear the way the coaching staff treated him down the stretch that they had no more use for him.

Jason Peters, guy who's got some first team all pros, an interesting guy to watch. They've come out and said he's going to be back, though, haven't they? They've said that they want him to be back, but you never know. Sometimes we've seen at the Combine guys, GMs will say right to your face that a guy's going to be back and then you see him on the transaction wire

two weeks later. No. That's terrible. They tell the truth, Greg, at that event. Anything else, Greg? I think that's good. You know? Good job.

You have to check it out. Did a good job. So, yeah, check out Greg's heat seeker. He's got the AFC already up by the time. This goes live. Will we have the NFC on the site as well? The NFC will go up Friday morning. Friday morning.

Is there a vanity URL? I like NFL.com slash on the bubble. I think it's AFC. F.C. Cuts. That would be better, though. I like us. We all have vanity URLs. Now it can be NFL.com slash Rosenthal.

Whoa. NFL.com slash Hansis. Wesseling. Sossler. Patra and Orr. Everyone. And or. Speaking of which, six across, when we go to the combine next week, the whole team's

going to be together. How fun is that? Has that ever happened? Have we ever been in the same place at the same time? Not everyone participated because apparently some were up in their hotel rooms, but there was like a nine-hour crossover at the Super Bowl where Patrick, this was at the Patriots Seahawks Super Bowl where Patcher was covering the Pro Bowl, which was in Arizona.

We didn't see each other. No, no, exactly, but we were, we blew the opportunity. We were all in the same within 50 feet of each other. Not only are we all going to be together, we're going to go to St. Elmo, St. Elmo, Stakehouse together. We're going to go to Conner's little cigar underground hut that he found in Indianapolis, where we'll be awash in red light. drinking brown liquor and smoking cigars love indianapolis i'm not you can't make me smoke

cigar i'm not smoking cigars either that's hideous oh god i'll go there i've been there what a common man you are west come on i'm a stogie common enough to have asthma and know that's dumb to smoke cigars with asthma i'll give you a pass for the asthma i forgot about that um all right i'll give you asthma what does that mean it's a line from a movie really it was catty What year? Oh, heaven's sakes. You wouldn't know. The ultimate.

Bassimatic and Caddyshack in the same show. Wait, I didn't like Bassimatic. It's about me. That's like the third drop. Wes is like not graduated from VCR cassette tapes. You just killed Wes with that one. All right. Before we go, like we said, made a promise.

We're going to hit the mailbag. So let's start with. Though I kind of like this. This is going to be a tough one. And I didn't give you guys a heads up. I wanted to, but forgot to. But if you have one in mind, this from Darrell Turner at D. Turner

78, dumbest free agent move you know will happen. Dumbus free agent move, you know will happen. Is anything spring to mind whether it's a player going somewhere, a team that will make an obvious play for a position or a specific player, dumbest free agent

move you know will happen. Wow. Well, I'll throw one out there. Sure. Sure. Like we just said, I like the idea of someone attempting to fix RG3's career. But if two months from now, we're writing our 40th of 728 articles about some hapless franchise latching on to RG3 as the quarterback's savior and they paid him a lot of money to do it, massive blunder. I don't think you make him anything more than a project. How about, well, how about this?

How about all those things that you know will happen? Despite what we might be hearing from other sources, Jared Jones can't help himself. goes and gets RG3 and then because this is what he does or maybe Stephen does it on some interview in the early August he drops something along lines of you know the best quarterback may the best man win

and all of a sudden there's a fake quarterback competition through training camp that we have to write about terrible hate the thought of that without an ounce of remorse for anything he's done Greg Hardy will get a new contract in another city that's my prediction for I don't know maybe he's done if the cowboys can't stand them maybe

people just give up on him? I don't know. He really did not do himself any favors this season. Here's my prediction for a dumb thing. The Dolphins sign a big shiny toy at some point. They don't bring back Olivia Vernon or Dan's boy Lamar Miller, future Hall of Famer, but they do sign someone, Malik Jackson or something, to a $100 million contract.

All right, there you go. Next up, here's a good question. Zach Trapp at Z Trappity. What are you doing over there, Mark? He's like the full thing. I had about an hour's sleep. I'm just staying awake. If Dalton comes back to Earth in 2016,

will the AD scale be a thing again? I would think so, right? Sure. Did we ever decide who was the new AD scale? What was the... I think we went with Alex Smith, but I don't know if anyone was sold on it. The voters were very split on Tanna Hill.

Oh, that's right. We put it to vote. Tana scale, Alex Smith, and I don't know who else, but those were the two that the voters like. But I thought Alex Smith was easily the pick. It just didn't. It wasn't a sexy pick, but at the same time, isn't that the heart of the 80s scale? It's the perfect guy.

I think Jay Cutler is the perfect one. Well, I mean, but everything would be kind of right in the world again if Dalton came back to Earth and he fit perfectly back into the scale that was created. We'll see if it happens. This is from Luke at Jazz Hand to Luke. If Mark Sessler was to kidnap a celebrity and eternally disappear into the forest, who's the celeb? This is a felon, by the felony right here.

And yet believable. I don't think this guy has a good read on Mark's essentially a capital crime. But if Mark was to kidnap a celebrity eternally disappear, which means never come back, who's the celeb? Before Mark answers that question, maybe we can offer who we think Mark would take. I'm baffled. I can't picture Mark ever kidnapping anyone. It seems like a weird read on who Mark Sessler is. You don't think Mark's a kidnappers.

The whole reason for him to vanish into the. the mist or the woods is to do it alone that's true yeah that's true i i would go with greg roman i feel like definitely coordinators yeah exactly i was just going through the list of coordinators and i i think mark if he's if it's going to be eternal he wants someone he can chew the fat with and uh i think him and roman they like talking my i would say i think yeah coordinator that feels good what about natalie portman i think mark has always had a fascination he is married well it doesn't matter because it doesn't matter because it It doesn't matter what you're doing.

You're running away, kidnapping someone and going into the woods forever. Well, the idea of kidnapping, like, a female in running away is a disastrous. It's problematic. I think if you're asking, do I, is there a fascination with Natalie Portman? Sure, but I don't think it leads to kidnap. On Luke's behalf, let's rephrase it. You get someone to willfully go into the woods with you forever. Right.

You can't answer that portment question. What would be your choice? I think it's actually, something came to me. I think it's Bill Belichick. Oh, my God. That is the worst. Well, I'll tell you why. I don't hang out with the guy.

I shake up. I won't ever get to see it, but I shake up the AFC for the rest of time. What? Mark doesn't bring anyone into the woods with him because he knows what's already waiting for him are wood nymphs. Belichick's a big guy. That would help you. I would be helping you. Yeah, but think about yourself, man.

You've got to spend the next 30 years of your life. I know, but I like Belichick. So I would like talking to him. him. You sent letters to him when you were young. Sure. So I'd just be kind of putting that full circle. This is, this next one's from Will Robinson, a former NFL media employee and editor. Very good dude. We love Will Robinson. Now writes for entertainment weekly. Good question from Will. What would be the NFL equivalent of the reignited Kanye West Taylor Swift beef? Wes, are you aware of the latest in this? I know that every time Kanye West opens its mouth is to

discredit another human being. So, yes, I'm aware of it. Yeah. So basically, the way I look at this question, and we don't need to get into their beef, but what would be, these are probably the two biggest stars in entertainment,

or at least the music world, Kanye and Taylor. So who would be like the two biggest, brightest stars clashing for all of our amusement? So I would go, let's say, Cam Newton and Aaron Rogers. Well, it's saying reignited, though, and like it would have to have some sort of previous beef.

So we can't, Oseum and your Lechon McCoy. Lechon McCoy and every player in the league. You're right, though. It would have to be. He's not big enough McCoy, though. LaShawn McCoy and every human being.

It has to be like the brightest stars in the galaxy type thing. But those guys usually don't. Adele Beckham is going to have to be involved. Oh, I like that. Beckham's a good one. Let's take Reignite out of it. Oh, there you go. There you go.

There's there it is. Josh Norman and O'Dell Beckham. Will Robinson. There is your answer. You're trash and Kanye. but he was I think they said some joke like this on SNL when you're that it's like the level of your talent is proportional to how much crap you're going to put up with someone

and Kanye still delivering the goods so you forgot to preface it with awful human being con Kanye West doesn't matter if you're bringing the music he has to take away from anybody who's successful but who cares trash them I's awful I think he's out in space and he's floating further by the day but he's probably put out the best like collection of music over the last 10 years you know at least in the hip hop he doesn't entitle him to act like an have you listened to uh the new album at our ultralight beam

anyone that can bring that into the world whatever who cares what they say you know they can i care that's what i'm saying i care about the art not the artist you know uh sidney you like conya not even a little bit no in fact i think that he's a crazy person and we is if society should stop enabling his crazy thank you maybe he is to me the modern uh Picasso So it's crazy, but brilliant. Well, all right. I'm going that far. You have gone too far potentially.

Let's move on to what? No, I don't think he went too far. Dan went right around. See, Greg and I back on the same page in life. This from, I'm there, no way I'm going to pronounce this last name correctly, but I'll give it a shot. Peter Kalazapolos. Oh, you got at Pete Kazalapio.

Which elite veteran QB without a ring deserves one most before retiring. He gives three options. Romo, Rivers, and Palmer. So really, which one of these guys would you like to see at a podium next February hoisting the Lombardi? Which story would you like the most, Wes? The story I would like the most is Carson Palmer because I believe he's overcome the most out of all those.

But I think the one who deserves it the most, the one who's been the best quarterback consistently out of that three would be Philip Rivers in my mind, very close with Romo. I go Romo easily because of, kind of the slings and arrows and nonsense that he endured for the first half of his career, where if you look at him statistically, he's by far the most effective Cowboys quarterback in an arrow where it demands the quarterback to be perfect. And he was blamed for everything, including world politics, wars, other things, famines.

Enough. Tony Romo winning the Super Bowl would be beautiful, but the other guys are good. I like Wes's take on this, like everything you said I'm on board with. Rivers is an easy guy to root for. He's been stuck with crummy teens forever, and he's got this mess. How about a great San Diego Chargers, maybe their last year, they win the Super Bowl.

Wow. Then move, though? That would save the team, I bet. Make a Disney movie, but I'd definitely go Romo. I mean, Rivers maybe deserves it more slightly, but Romo, I would rather see. I just think that, I mean, he's been more entertaining over his whole career.

He's been such a great player. That would be an amazing story. Seems like a really nice guy. He is. Yes. Next up, Andrew Lewis at Hatware, 2034. Does Dan have any more tagline suggestions for the NFL? In fact, I do.

I'm going to try these out. As always, the criticism I will not take personally. I really want to find the next big tagline for the NFL, especially during the offseason. The NFL, 17-week season, 53-week obsession. What is the actual? extra week. Yeah, there's only 52.

I know, exactly. It's like eight days a week. It's your eight days a week mantra. Exactly, Sydney. Is that a winner? No? Keep going. Okay.

Sydney, apologies in advance for this one. The NFL, I'm like a pigskin in . Well, I like it, but the NFL suddenly has to censor its key message in all formats. I don't know. feel like this, this is the most problematic NFL. That would be the most problematic NFL plan since the blue suit guy. I like it. I don't think it can grow legs.

All right. Okay. Finally, the NFL, call the fight. It's the best sport, obviously. Love it. I like that. I love it. That's the best one you've had.

Because you know what? They should own that more. Every other sport is just struggling to stay above water. Well, you don't know anything about any other sports. None of them matter on any. level to you. No, but the NFL absolutely owns the territory. I knew you would like this one.

That's fantastic. That would be kind of written for you, Mark. You got to win. Go to fight. When it's good, it's good. Okay, good. Moving on. Let's see if we got any else.

We've got time for one or two more. Baseball calling itself the national pastime. Get over yourself. It was. It was. That's exactly right. But they don't really do that anymore. How about operate in the presence?

Just stay out of it. Enjoy your little. football. It's a peristoral sport. Oh, from PJ, the Amazon, or Asman, who's the worst driver on the Around the NFL podcast crew? Well, I haven't really

between two people because two people in this room have said in the past that they're bad drivers. Well, I take back if I said that. You did say that. I would own this because in my life, I've had a car, I basically drove my car into a five-foot ditch at one point.

Just 48 hours ago, I took a hard right turn into a one-direction-only type lane, and I was going the wrong way and had a girl slamming her fist against a window yelling at me, at a Barnes & Noble. I had a car roll out of my driveway over a hill down into someone's lawn and unearthed a tree. So it's just been bad. Wasn't there a text message related? Are you a Spacey driver? Well, that was pre-text messaging.

That was like a 19-192. Recently, wasn't there something else? It's every week. I mean, I don't, there was, I don't, I wouldn't even own a car if I didn't live in L.A. You know, I can, I can, you know, get a little too, maybe I'll lose focus a little bit. But if, if my, if I'm on, you know, I'm, as you guys know, I've been a professional driver. Strawberry. Oh, God.

Delivered pizzas. But, you know, I was driving in New York City for a while. So, you know, you can't mess around with that. My dad went, my dad recently here was like, told me I drive like a taxi driver. And I said that that's like the nice thing that's a compliment. That is a nice thing. You also did blow a tire running over a curb once. Well, Aaron Hernandez had just gone to jail and I was thinking about other things.

He blames it on Aaron. It was. I had to drop my wife and kid off at brunch and drive back to write about Aaron. Anyone, all of us have been driving in L.A. for a long time. Anyone except West, this is new to West as a driver. But anyone doing that. When I first moved here and I have one now. Yeah, anyone doing that is a much better driver than you were before you got here to deal with this place.

I agree, especially the freeway driving that you will learn very quickly how to navigate across eight lanes of traffic at 67 miles per hour. All right, that's it. That's the mailbag, and that is another episode of the around the NFL podcast. Next time you hear from us will still be in Los Angeles because we are all leaving collectively next Tuesday for Indianapolis. flying through Detroit. What? Come on NFL. Well, they've wisely not put any of us on a plane to go.

Christ, put us on a flight to Indianapolis. Straight. There's no direct. There's no directs on the airlines we use. I mean, you're blaming the NFL here, but they should blame Delta and United. Sometimes Indianapolis doesn't have all the flights you want. We've got enough people blaming airlines on Twitter, don't we?

Yeah, thank you. But no, like, you know, Vrog is in L.A. They ain't stopping over in D-Town. That's all I'm saying. Oh, you want us to have the same flight plans as Rog? Who gets more downloads? Well, he's coming from New York. That's, that's a direct for sure.

Yeah, well, that's true. I think Rod can claim our downloads. All right. Does he have a plane like the president? He has eminent domain. I'm sure he does. Well, as you know, Dan, as a regular listener to the Rosenthal and Jesselick Vanity Project, the what?

Roger Goodell was part of the show. Was that that long since canceled a podcast from yesterday year? He was a big producer, big, big, songwriter on our show. Oh, really? I don't get the joke, but I'm sure a lot of people do. Your podcast now joins that big podcast party in the sky with the coaches show. It could be coming back, you know.

So could the coaches show. Yeah, right. Anyway, so yes, we'll be back on Monday, and then it's off to the Combine. Until then, this is Dan Hansis, signing off for Quiet Storm, also known as the Sizzler. The mailman, the boss, and la Cid behind the glass. Tell Monday.