NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Suh Out, Sherman Signs & More Trades!

Episode Date: March 12, 2018

A room filled with some heroes- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal & Marc Sessler- assemble to break down the flurry of NFL news from the past few days. The heroes discuss Ndamukong Suh being released by the Dolphins (4:00), a recap of all of the Browns trades (10:00), Richard Sherman’s new deal with the 49ers (18:00), the Cardinals releasing Adrian Peterson (27:00), changes to the Monday Night Football broadcast team (34:00) AND MORE!!Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast is a factory of gladness. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler to my left. Greg Rosenthal to my right. What's up, boys? Hey-oh.

Very weird. We have Westback for. for weeks and weeks, and we get back into the Hey Dan rhythm, and then he's out today. He's yanked away. And it leaves, you know, Greg and I did not spin off your intro very well at all. He has a routine medical checkup, and he's going to be back for the big start of free agency Wednesday, but we got plenty of talk about. Told me, he's holding out for more money. He's now angry about his contract again.

He's very angry, always angry about money. But there was a, it's kind of like when you call it a routine checkup, it's one of those. There's tropes of sports reporting. It's like somebody reports, ooh, a minor cleanup surgery on the ankle. And it's like, oh, you tell me if there's really any such thing as a minor surgery. Got you. Is there really such a thing as a routine checkup? And that's not even really what it is.

I just didn't want to. We don't want to be broadcasting what he's going in for. We will offer an update if we can if it was a successful. I'm sure we've dug in much deeper than he would. preferred that we do or do not a successful checkup that's what we're looking for all right here we are this is it today is monday march 12 2018 it is the opening of the legal tampering period which means one thing baby in about 48 hours it will be a new league year and what a new league year means mark is NFL teams NFL players

Open for business. It's Free Agency Week, baby. It is. Although, I mean, if there's ever been a football season, offseason that took on a different sort of texture, business has been going on nonstop. Left Friday, met Dan after work, and, like, everything was, news was flying left and right behind the scenes. There's never been, there's never been a week in NFL history, really, like last week where before free agency, there was that much action.

It just hasn't ever happened before. No precedent. And at the center of it all, of course. late last week was Mark Sessler's Cleveland Browns. We're going to get to that because when you last heard from us, the Jarvis Landry trade had just occurred sending Landry from Miami to Cleveland, but then there were more moves that were going to break down. Just talk about the Browns in general.

And if we have time, we're going to hit a few mailbag questions. There's a new mailbag up over on the end around on NFL.com. So check that out if you can. but this is going to be a news-heavy show because there's a lot of news so you guys want to get to it? Please. Why not?

Let's do it. I'm hoping we're breaking news during the show. Like I got a feeling it could happen. You'll find something to push up to that level. Let's do some news, Lindsay Fulton. Everyone will oppose me? Watch your body is burned. Your body is going to burn.

Ooh, keep an eye on the browns. They're special. So go get my lunch.org, Nick Fortier's soundboard. We will get to the Browns at a moment. But let's start with the man who three years ago when we were doing all these podcasts this time of year was the big fish. He was the Kirk Cousins of the market in Domican Sioux. He ended up signing a massive six-year, $114 million deal with the Dolphins. All that guaranteed money has been paid out.

and now Miami's looking to get out. NFL Network Insider, Ian Rappaport reported Monday that the team is likely to release the three-time all-pro defensive tackle before the new league year begins on Wednesday. Greg, we'll start with you on this one. Not a shocking move. We talked about it last week, how there had been percolating rumors and reports about this,

and now it looks like it's going to happen. Sue hits the market at 31 years old, and it's going to be a big market, right? I think so. we're going to put him, Chris Wesleyan and I, at number three on our top 101 free agents. There was no argument about it this time. We both put him in the same exact spot, which is after the two quarterbacks, Breeze and Cousins. And yes, he's 31 years old, and he's not a guy you're going to expect to be dominant for four or five years.

But for the next year or two, he's playing at a Pro Bowl level. And unlike Sheldon Richardson, for instance, who you're hoping can play to his potential. Just put on what Sue did last year. playing 85% of the snaps. He's shutting down the run. He's drawing double teams. He's maybe not as good as he was four years ago, but he's still one of the best defensive tackles in the league. So I think he's going to get, I don't know, $12, $14 million a year or something like that. It only adds to the quizzical nature of Miami's offseason because you go out, you know, we've already talked about this. You get Robert Quinn and then it puts you in a position to not even be able to

really compete for Sue's salary. We've been hearing for weeks that he's a cut candidate. They've They've paid him $60 million over the past three years. And what do they have to show for other than two seasons, totally awash at sea, and a quick trip to the playoffs that got neutralized in a hurry? I mean, you bring this guy in. I like the free. This is why we get all jazzed up these couple weeks. Free agency frenzy, you call whatever you want.

80% of these deals lead to heartache. And I think it was always going to, even when it happened, the amount of money, making him the highest paid player ever on defense, you knew it was a toss-up, whether it was going to work out. And we don't know, like, the whole story. It's not as simple as, well, they got Robert Quinn and that made them lose Indomacant to Sue. Maybe they decided behind the scenes

that Sue was not a fit in their locker room or whatever it was, but the decision was made to move on. And I think... I think 26 million is not a fit. Well, that's the cap hit, and the salary was something over 20 and lower than that. I just don't know what did you expect if you're the Miami Dolphins.

To me, it was a fine signing. I don't think he excelled, over the top of what they expected. But I think he gave about what you would expect. Really high-level play. On the field, he was the least of their problems. He was an asset. Paying Andre Branch, $10 million to me is a bigger issue.

I just don't see a plan. Like in a vacuum, I get this move. It does kind of make sense. But when you're paying Robert Quinn, who's a far inferior player, to me, $11 million, and you're not keeping Jarvis Landry. It's just kind of like the Dolphins seem like they're always making it up on the fly as they go along, changing their mind on their direction,

And it's just another one of those. I know we need to move on. One last thing, though, when you hear these reports, oh, well, they're looking to clean up their locker room. And Sue's name gets attached to that. We all get the on-field Thanksgiving Day, you know, Nadomac and Sue kicking quarterback X in the crotch. That's not a good look, whatever. But at the same time, like, Nadomac and Sue behind the scenes has never really been whispered about as a guy who's a locker room problem. Am I wrong there?

Is that the issue in Miami's life? I think it's just you don't want to pay anyone this money. Here and there, maybe they don't think he's, like, a leader, which in the perfect, like, first guy in the building, last guy, he misses some OTAs, stuff like that. But he was due $17 million this year. I'm just looking at the rest of their salaries. And it's like, that's what Ryan Tannahill's making. Sue's earned that money as much as anyone. He's earned it as much as Andre Branch and Quinn.

Does it ever work out when a team that doesn't have a surefire answer, a quarterback pays a player that's not a quarterback, quarterback money? It's sometimes, I mean, I remember the Jets They're with Derel Rivas once upon a time. That didn't work out, Sue. It's because even if he does play up to standards, if you got a glaring hole at the game's most important position as the You can't build around a defensive tackle or a cornerback. You're going to max out at 7 to 10 wins,

and you're just going to move along and then you've got to make a move. I mean, the bigger problem to me is they're citing Lawrence Timmins last year for 6 or 7 million, Julius Thomas for 6 or 7 million. Then you're getting very almost nothing on your return. And I think Sue, it'll be fascinating to see where. he goes because man he could make a lot of teams better the eagles have been thrown out there as a possibility early that seems like a long what are we here in NFL network that seems like a long shot to me in considering their salary kept said he'd play there for free i heard the whisper that he was in a

joint practice was overheard right whisper i would play for the eagles for free well i don't know if they have room for him but i guess any team could make room for in doubt they would if he played for free uh let's move on yeah so let's touch on mark sessler's Cleveland browns um Is there light? Is true light finally entering the picture? The Owen 16 team that had stockpile draft picks and payroll, a salary cap space. Now with John Dorsey, they are going for it. And we talked about the move for Jarvis Landry. That was just the Browns getting going this weekend. They on Friday then traded for Tyrod Taylor. So let's start there. Bringing in Taylor, sending back to the bills, the 6th. The 265th overall pick in the draft this year, which I believe is the first pick of the third round. That's correct. Yep. So they immediately wash away, Mark, the A.J. McCarran narrative, most likely.

Who knows anything could happen. But it seems like Tyraub Taylor is now that guy, the bridge guy, and you still imagine there is the long-term quarterback to come, but Tyrod's the short-term guy. You like it? Well, I do because it tells me a couple things. they are dug in on drafting a rookie number one or number four. I don't think that's going to change. This is your one-year bridge guy where A.J. McCarran would have, you've had to have signed him for a longer-term deal.

And with Tyrod Taylor, I feel like he's a more of a known entity. We know what he is. It's a signal to me that they are, for better or worse, digging in on Hugh Jackson, and they're digging in on, if you look at some of the defensive stuff they're doing, on Greg Williams. That could all be very hazardous, you know, seven or eight months from now. we'll find out.

But that's because I think they're the most, they're the people in the building that have the most to prove. But they're making moves. And Tyrod Taylor's, they have the money. Tyrod Taylor doesn't cost them a thing after next season. And Peter King had an interesting report that he said that when they went after Taylor versus A.J. McCarran, with all these moves they made, that other teams around the league were kind of stunned, he said,

by some of the guys they wound up with because they were so all in with agents and other people on other wide receivers, other quarterbacks, other cornerbacks, and other defenders. So it's like, they're, they really, how do you interpret that? Well, King basically said that they essentially had already started to do free agency work, which you're not supposed to. I mean, you go read it. You can see it's like, so I think that they maybe are just, they're way more active behind the scenes than we, no one saw Friday coming. This is what's been happening to lead up to that. Well, the, the third round pick is a little surprising for a guy who you would think is only there for one year.

He's getting paid a good amount of money. Be surprised if it's more, wouldn't you, depending on what happens? What? Tyrod Taylor is staying longer than one season? I don't expect that to happen in Cleveland because they're going to draft someone, and that is going to be their guy. But they want to win games in 2018, and there's a decent chance. Tyrod Taylor is a better option in September and October than those guys

and can win you some games and trying to keep Hugh Jackson's job. I did a QB index today where I ranked all the quarterbacks. I had Tyraud 2. I mean, I don't think he's a bad starter at all. He has a very defined skill set for Hugh to use. He never throws interceptions. He's almost too careful. He's like Alex Smith, and maybe even more so.

He's a great running quarterback. He can throw the deep ball. It's like he's got some strengths. He's clearly got weaknesses too. He's not going to put you over the top. But he makes them better. If they had Tyra Taylor last year, they would have won games. They would have won three or four games.

The only fear, of course, and this should be said, Browns, don't fall in love with Tyrod Taylor and not pick a quarterback in the first run. My only fear, as somebody who's sick of the Browns being bad from a guy that covers football angle, just don't get cute here. If you do that, after all that you've done

and you've attached yourself, you've fallen in love in the next essentially five weeks with someone you can't even practice with? Would you put anything past this? No, I would put that past them because I think that would be highly absurd to fall on the quarterback that you signed for one year. I don't think it's going to happen, but I'm just... That's ridiculous.

It would be crazy. And some people would say giving up a third round pick is a little crazy for a guy you're going to have one year. Maybe you get a compensatory pick back when Taylor leaves. But I think this is John Dorsey maybe making a trade that he couldn't make if Sassie Brown didn't give him all those picks. Oh, absolutely. The Sean Kaiser was drafted by the Browns in the second round last year. And he had what amounted to a doomed audition on an 0-16 team and now has been sent packing. He was traded on Friday to the Green Bay Packers.

So they give up on their second round pick after a year. They get back, though, a cornerback, Demarius Randall, who was a first round pick of the Packers three years ago. So ultimately, the Kaiser move did not work out for the Browns. He was not deemed to be a long-term answer, but they get back some value for him, and I guess it could be worse. They put him into one of the worst situations the rookie quarterback has been in a long time,

and it's not even just on the field. Throwing him under the bus, week after week, using him as a scapegoat for their ups and downs. I thought that was an atrocious job by the coaching staff. Secondly, I mean, they're bringing in Randall to play safety, which is a need. So either that works or it doesn't. You got something back for Kaiser. I'd be surprised you got anything back for him after what happened last year.

But he's, I guess you could look at him and say, he has tools. He has tools. He could be a long-term backup, and long-term backups get paid and have value in the NFL. He needs to develop. He did some good things, I thought. Randall was a guy who makes plays, who intercepts the ball, but gives up plays, really up and down kind of career in Green Bay. I kind of like the move for both teams.

They certainly don't need Deshaun Kaiser, and I think the Packers get a long-term backup potentially. Upgrade on Brett Huntley, who had his chance last year and just proved he is not a guy to count on. We'll see if it's an upgrade. Kaiser through some of the worst interceptions and many of them that you've seen. That said, it's another signal they're going quarterback in the top part the draft. You don't get rid of Kaiser. Cody Kessler's gone to. Probably Kevin

Hogan's going to be somewhere working at a CVS somewhere. Who knows? It is funny to think back to the end of the preseason last year when Kaiser, if you were... We loved him. If you were power ranking the rookie quarterbacks after the preseason last year, it was like Kaiser was number one. That was kind of the buzz. Yes. I remember that. That was a long time ago.

The Browns also agreed to trade their 2015 first round pick, Danny Shelton, to the Patriots, according to Rapsheet. The Browns receive a third round pick in the 2019 draft. The Browns also send a fifth rounder back to New England, 12th overall pick mark in the 2015 draft.

Why do the Browns get out of this one? Well, two things. I think they were zero interest. Again, it's digging in on their coaching staff. It does not a fit for Greg Williams. There were zero interest in going further down the road and picking up a fifth-year option for a guy that they say today doesn't fit. It's another example when you're Cleveland or,

a bad team that switches your coordinators and your coaches every two years that have all they say oh cleveland has none of their first round picks from 2009 and outside of alix mac it's because you continually pick players for previous schemes that don't fit and they all get washed out shelton will probably he'll be he fits in well with new england and he does he's a good run stuffer they need they need that guy i love this trade as a as a patriots fan because he's got premier talent he's graded out as as a very good run stopper on Pro football focus, and you just move down a couple rounds in a future draft, basically, to get them. You could see this working out pretty well for them long-term, Danny Shelton.

You're right about the coaching changes and all that, but it's pretty remarkable. 2009 to 2015, 10 first-round picks. Well, a lot of bad, but a lot of bad picks in there. You're right, though. It's nonstop, like, piling on with Cleveland, but it's like it is organizational, a lack of continuity. Right. That's why the Sue move, for Adam Gase, it makes sense. But he wasn't even there when they signed Sue. But it is the successive pain that you deal with if you keep making a change in the front office and the coaching staff every year.

You end up not getting great value. And a lot of the guys just can't play. If you look at the middle of the list, Trent Richardson, Brandon Wheat and Barquevius Mingo. Some incredible whips. Johnny Mansell. Maybe it's a new era, though, because we've had hope season in the off season before at the Browns. but this feels a little different. But I was hanging out of you.

I was hanging out of you. I wasn't going crazy. We said that before, though. I know, but you know why it feels a little different this time is they are making competitive moves that's making of a team better and you have one and four coming. And they, it's a loaded draft class. One in four is the reason I feel hope. And the two second round picks.

Right. But Dorsey, just like he has a reputation. He's got other people around him. You can't just burn the cap up in two off seasons and suddenly, you know, of a bunch of aging veterans on two-year deals. Right. The tie rod was a reminder that quarterbacks cost a lot, and they just cost so much. However low you think they're going to cost, it's going to be more than that, including

in a trade. That was the one move where I think maybe the rest of the league looks at as like, huh. Right. Like you're just kind of spending because you're just kind of, you know, I think so. It's going to the weekend hot. All right. So that's what's going on on Brown's Corner. Let's now move to Richard Sherman.

Oh, we already have a sandwich. A prop decided ladies in California. I was a mistake. Richard Sherman signs with the San Francisco 49ers a three-year, $39 million deal. I don't even know why you put these contract terms in the headline anymore.

It's just getting so ridiculous at this point because Sherman, it's filled with incentives and the fact of the matter is that Sherman is really only guaranteed $3 million fully. So you're going to win the sandwich with that as well, Greg. but Sherman wanted to stay obviously close to home. He wanted to stay in the NFC West. He said, I think, in an interview with Peter King

that he wanted vengeance or something of that nature against the Seahawks. Sossy. So, here he is. A member of the 49ers. You like to move, Greg. I know right when we were talking about this on Friday, you immediately popped in with the Niners,

and that was a good prognostication. I think it had been thrown out there by one of our insiders. Well, I think Wesleyan also had at the top of his list of landing spots. Look at that. You call him Wessling now? Chris Wesleyan? Not Chris, not West. Yeah, it's not.

I mean, it's not very cold. I'll go in any direction. I was having a checkup today. Going to any direct, Wes. Dan wasn't there the night that we went out with the five Wesleying brothers. But did you have any issue like calling West West in front of all? Because I was like, well, aren't you all West? So it's a little confusing.

Yeah, I think they probably viewed it as a tad clumsy on our part. Maybe. I don't know. Oh, because I, in real time, when the one brother was there earlier, not Nick, it was, Jeff, Harry, Billy. Got a lot of brothers. They are listening right now. One of the Wesley brothers. And they're like, there is no Jeff Harry or Billy. Give you a break.

Was with us and we were walking. Deedric. Deidreck. Desing was walking to Lucasoil Stadium to record the podcast. And I did feel it in my bones and I was calling West Chris, which I very rarely do. for that very reason. We have backed ourselves into a tough corner. Back to Richard Sherman.

So yes, he ends up there. And I want to point one other thing out in our sandwich prop podcast, go get my lunch. I did throw out my one concern with that prop about how much guaranteed money he gets is Richard Sherman representing himself. And we were like, well, so-and-so did great, Elvis Dumerville, whoever it was. O'Coon. O'Coon did very well for himself. Well, Ben Volin, who does a great job. job for Boston Globe wrote a withering takedown of Richard Sherman, basically, in his opinion,

getting taken to the cleaners by the 49ers who took a guy that had very little experience in the realm of negotiation and made him think he had no leverage, even though he had leverage, and signed them to a sweetheart of a deal. So the 49ers come out of this flying, because not only do they get a hyper-motivated future Hallfamer potentially. You also get a guy that's not going to cost you much and you can get out pretty much at any time after this first season. Well, if he plays 90% of the snaps and makes the Pro Bowl. Which is a lot for a 30-year-old.

All-Pro. All-Pro. All-Pro. That was our original reporting, but it was corrected elsewhere. To me, that changes things a lot because Pro Bowl, all sorts of people, waltzing into the Pro Bowl. He would make it 11 million at that point. He called up John Snyder after, and Schneider said the incentives in the deal you signed are too rich.

McKenzie and Oakland said he didn't want the deal based on what he had seen what the 49ers put together. And Matt Patricia and Detroit also agreed not to, they didn't want it. So they viewed the overall packages too rich. It's a bet on me deal for both the 49ers and Richard.

Well, he has to stay healthy. It's ultimately, if he's healthy enough to pass a physical to start camp, it can be a one-year $7 million contract. And I think that's a great move for the 49ers. no matter what happens. There's a chance that he is still a very, very good starting cornerback.

And even if he's just solid, I think he's exactly the type of guy you want in a young secondary with some players that he can help teach. I mean, he's one of the smartest guys out there. He's been around winning programs. He's the kind of guy that sets a standard for the guys around him. With all that said, I saw that note that he has to be healthy by the start of training camp to even make sure he gets that $7 million. and I don't know from where we're sitting

if that's even guaranteed. So that's why when they say only 3 million is fully guaranteed, I don't know if any other team out there was really going to give any better. It sounds like, as Peter King reported, the answer is that? Is this saucier than Revis going to the Patriots in terms of two fan bases who are against each other? I mean, Niners fans galvanized to hate Richard Sherman.

Is it hard to suddenly switch and root for him in this situation? I think it's a little tough on a fan. band base to suddenly treat him, you know, Roger Clemens like, on the Yankees, like, this is the greatest thing that ever happened. I loved seeing Seahawks Twitter say all last week. Just you realize what an important person, Sherman, of all the people on the Seahawks team this decade, it's like, Seahawks Twitter was just writing love letters and just saying what an important, and you realize what an important guy this guy has been in the history of their

franchise and the play that he made against the 49ers may be the play. in Seahawks history, the breakup that he had in the NFC championship. So I think it's easy, I think it's easy enough for Seahawks fans to say goodbye because the 49ers, they're not winning the Super Bowl this year. I mean, I don't know. Who knows what they're going to do? I mean, I think the Seahawks fans get it, that it was time in Achilles surgery, whereas Dorel Revis was still at the top of the game.

Dorel Rivas was still at the top of the game and he helped them win a suit. I mean, also by the end, I don't know when you were monitoring Seahawks adoration for Richard Sherman, by the end of the weekend, Richard Sherman, was having to address on Twitter, take a step back, Seahawks fans. I've been done all this for you. This isn't my fault. They didn't want to pay me.

They let me go. And if you're a 49ers fan, it's any sport it carries across. You mentioned Roger Clemens. But as long as you produce, like you quickly forget about where the guy used to be. Oh, 49ers fans can't complain.

I mean, they've won how many games over the last couple of years. Like, they should just be happy to be getting better. And I think we can guarantee. Are we, are we certain? I would like to put a sandwich prop on Seahawks, 49ers, Thursday night football.

No, I think so. There's no way that's not happening. They might just make them play 16 times this year. I mean, that would be counterproductive, but not always the best decisions made by the schedule makers. No shots fired. Perhaps shots were. It's impossible.

What, you're saying the Bears five times last year? Like in the first four weeks wasn't great. So, Greg, you owe me a sandwich. I do. West as well. Mark wisely stayed away from the Richard Sherman signs within three weeks. I'll end up even on the Richard. Sherman front, because he will not get in the top five of guaranteed money.

No, he will not. So that'll even out. But yeah, you got us. Speaking of a free agency and in this case, a deal that did not work out, Sean Smith and the Raiders are parting ways. That's an understatement, not working out. The team released the cornerback, according to Rapsheet, cutting $8.5 million off the books.

He's turning 31 in July, signed a four-year, $40 million deal two off-seasons ago, 20 million guaranteed and he got benched a bunch of times never thrived in Oakland just a terrible signing and on top of it bad 2018 not a great year for Sean Smith breaking news he not only is he out of work he'll probably be heading to jail reportedly connected to a felony assault for involvement in the incident violence incident so Sean Smith out of work and the Raiders are moving on They signed Sean Smith and David Amerson to two huge contracts, right as that team was kind of on the way up.

And Amerson was cut earlier this off-season. That proved to be a very costly gambit by the Raiders. If you look at what Reggie McKenzie has done in that secondary, really the whole time he's been there, it's been a disaster. He used a first-round pick on DJ Hayden. You paid huge money to these two guys, and that's been their worst position group for a while.

That's why I don't mean to constantly rein on free agents. but we get into this human trap where reporters on down, we really have this ultra-like magnetism to these active teams when history tells you if you go back and you want, it's like looking at the draft from five years ago where you can look at a team and say they've really put themselves over the top. Or not. Or you put yourself into cap chaos by signing a deal

that's going to wind up being an utter dud like this one did. It's usually the teams like the Eagles and any other team that rises up. up. It's those under the radar deals that really build the mid-level deals. Yeah. It's really at the old end date. You've got to build a team through the draft and then he supplemented typically with these sneaky good deals. Jags did a nice job at the top of free agency last year. That's true. But that was rare. That was rare. Moving on,

Adrian Peterson, he will be playing elsewhere next season. Adam Schefter reported that the team will release. The Cardinals will release Peterson. and he will be a free agent when the period opens up. He averaged three and a half yards per carry for the Cardinals and limited action. Had a couple nice games with them. But overall, again, looked like a 31, 32-year-old running back. So he will hit the market again.

Last year, of course, he was on the market, ended up with the Saints, and that didn't work out. Mark, I don't imagine Peterson's going to have a large market and might have to take a sweetheart of a deal for a team. to stay in the league. It's funny because when he first got to Arizona and it was, oh, listen, now he's finally, he's here, he's motivated and he blasted the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And he looked like the Adrian Peterson. And we spent offseason wondering, would we get that guy? So I don't doubt his ability, but I really do question after what happened last season in New Orleans, especially,

that if he isn't put into a fit where he feels like he is the alpha male starting running back, who are you going to get? Because I don't know what team is going to go. into next season saying Adrian Peterson is anything but a guy that has a chance to compete for a job not to mention he's coming off a neck injury that ended his season prematurely he says it's completely healed but that's

another question mark you would think for again a guy that's been in the league now for a decade or running back they don't last that much longer well he's not a factor really on third downs and he's not a special teams guy so then you kind of have to be the starter for it to make sense

you're right he'll get offers but It's kind of up to him. Does he want to try to go make a team? And I don't blame him for trying. I think he loves football more than anything else he'll ever do. He's one of the greatest running backs to ever do it. In my mind, he's got to be a first bout, Hall of Fame. Oh, yeah.

But he might still be one of those guys that gets 50 more carries this year, and it's kind of depressed. To Mark's point. Yeah. To Mark's point, again, and this is interesting, all these names are popping up again because it feels like just yesterday they were major players in free agency. Dominique Rogers Camardi was a major acquisition by the Giants a few years ago and now they wanted to take a pay cut or get cut and DRC says I'm gone. So the Giants on Sunday released the veteran cornerback.

He confirmed that on social media. So DRC hits the market again 31 years old and what kind of market does he have at this stage? Probably we'll get a deal, but his big money. earning days are probably over. We threw him at the back end of the top 101. It was a really good signing for the Giants. He gave him four really good years overall. Did he do that long?

Yeah, he was there for four years. Remember, we were at the Super Bowl, and Dominique Rogers Cromarty threatened to retire while he was a member of the Broncos. Do you guys remember this? That was like the story on Media Night of 2014, I believe. And now he's played another four years at a pretty high level. That was so forgettable that it.

It doesn't even ring a bell, and I was there. Do we want to hear something called a little bit of real breaking news? Uh-oh. What you got? Our very own Tom Pelliserro just said on NFL Network, the Vikings have made a call on none other than Drew Brees, per league sources. Their plan going into the day was to engage agents for all their quarterback options. Oh, I wish Wes is here.

technically available. No stoned unturned, according to Tom Pellisero. I'm so angry. I love it. I'm so angry I didn't put a sandwich on some team at least negotiating with Drew Brees. Hey, he's probably not going to leave New Orleans. But if you're the Vikings, why don't you make the Saints pay full price? Why don't you just say, here, we'll pay you $60 million over the next two years.

Wouldn't you be happy if you're the Vikings to do that over Case Keenum or anything like that? 60 over the next two years. Even understanding, hey, you have 24 hours to take this. We get it. It's Brett Farve all over again. You get it if you don't want to, but we're going to have to move on otherwise. And if nothing else, you just force the Saints to pay that money. On top of it, well, that's right.

And that's a major competitor in the NFC. Ian Rappaport mentioned that there are multiple teams inquiring about Drew Brees. Who's Ian Rappaport? He is our NFL Network insider and a friend of the show, as it very recently. Thank you. Sorry. Is there something going on between you and Ian? And we don't know.

No, I just, you said the person's name, but there was no title. I feel he's like ultra famous at this point. Okay. Cool. But his title is now in his contract. No, I love this. Contract, you have to say. Well, that helps the Jets if you're a Jets fan.

As you know, Lindsay, I had my premonition that Kirk Cousins signed with the Jets, and I hugged him, and I embraced him. And I said, everything's going to be okay. Welcome to the team. I wish you well. And what I think is that, you know, in Jerry McGuire, I'm going to cite a 22-year-old movie now. You know Jerry Maguire when they are at

this isn't a premonition but when they were at I think it was like the draft or something and Rod Tidwell does the lap with Jerry McGuire and then Cush's father gets angry at Jerry for

oh well you walk around the lobby with the black fella is how he said it and and Cush signed with Jay Moore instead of Jerry McGuire. Now. Who's Cush? What?

Greg, you were born at age 32. I've seen the movie. How do you not know who Cush is? Cush is Jerry O'Connell, the quarterback. Okay, I got it now. I saw it in the theater. I loved it. I don't know if I've seen it since then.

Okay. My point is, long story short, is that I like Kirk Cousin seeing what the Vikings are doing here and being like, oh, they're not all in on me. I'm sick of being overlooked. I was overlooked for years. years in Washington, I want to go to the team that truly loves me and has all the dollars. The Jets said now have more cap room than anybody, including the Browns.

I like it all. I like this. And you've got to see Jerry McGuire again. It's a great sports movie. So it breathes is Jerry O'Connell? In this, okay, Cush is Kirk Cousins. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense to me. And Breeze is Rod Tidwell. Right. I like that comparison because if, if, If I'm the Vikings, Kirk Cousins is great and all. Let's be real. Drew Brees is better. And I know he's getting up there in years and he's been in Sean Payton's offense.

But think about how well he played in that Panthers playoff game. Think about him coming back from 17 down in Minnesota. He's still playing like a top five quarterback. He's a first ballot hall of famer. Kirk Cousins is nice. I'll take Drew Brees. Kirk Cousin will be a second ballot hallfamer once his Jets career takes off. But we'll see how it all plays out.

Good breaking news, Mark. No problem. Anytime I can help. You're seeing how breaking the news really works. We're a team around here. I really liked all the news that Mark is breaking today, not just on this show, but if you check out the Rota World Headlines page, it's all about Mark Sessler's Twitter. I mean, essentially, I appreciate them putting my name out there into the, I am essentially watching NFL Network and tweeting stuff that other reporters have reported.

So, I mean, it feels a little, a little trashy on my part to take any credit. But how many of the Roto World readers are even? even understanding that sort of nuance. They're just like, wow, this Sessler guy. That's where I can get on board. I can get on board with how most readership operates. Moving on, the Chargers and quarterback Casey Hayward reach agreement on a three-year extension,

three years 36 million, according to Rappsheet. 20 million fully guaranteed. Signed with the Chargers of Free Agent in 2016 after spending his first four years with the Packers. It's been to the Pro Bowl twice, been named second team all pro twice. Greg, I know you love your chargers. Got to keep that guy in the building.

This is one of the examples of that a star player can be found in free agency sometimes. I think the perfect candidates for our guys coming off their rookie contracts who've shown some talent like Hayward did in Green Bay. It gets back to me of like, what have the Packers been doing, especially Dom Capers on defense here the last four or five years? It's like you let this, this guy didn't even work in Green Bay. Now he's one of the best cornerbacks in the league with the Chargers. One more little tiny dose of breaking news.

Multiple reports out there suggesting, well, this is happening. The Bengals who need a left tackle, they are trading for Cordy Glenn of the bills for an undisclosed draft pick. Multiple reports out there have this happening, Dan. Not our reports. That's why I go with multiple. By the way, well, I'm not. because if this is wrong, we're going to have this by the time the show ends.

We can't keep getting caught behind. You're hanging your shingle out. You should give Josina Anderson credit. She broke it. It's been confirmed after she broke it. Along with Catherine Terrell, their beat reporter for the Bengals. I don't feel dangerous waters right. I don't feel dangerous.

You know, Adam Kaplan. I always triple source. It's, I got three people right there. And one of my sources is always someone internal. This thing's picking up steam. You're hanging your shingle out in a big spot here. I have former internals. I think it's safe to say someone internal will.

probably report it in the next four minutes. Let's bet on. So for four minutes, that shingles out. If we were down on the desk... Big old hanging shingles. I would start writing... I would have written started writing this thing five minutes ago. So that by the time our guys get it, it's up on the site.

The bills are... Slap their name on it. Are rebuilding. I mean, this is their left tackle they gave a ton of money for. They don't. The bills gave up a ton of money to Cordy Glenn. He's been injured, but when he's healthy, he's a premier left tackle. They give up Tyrod Taylor.

I'm sure they're going to... of find another quarterback, but for now they just don't have anyone. They don't have a left tackle. They're in an interesting spot where they finally did make the playoffs, but they are still kind of rebuilding for Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean's image. Oh, and I meant to say before, I might as well say it now since we're talking about the bills again, you know, after all that withholding of love and just not treating Tyrodel the way he deserved, the one last kick in the pants, I know everybody's, it's Brown's

optimism season. They trade him to an 0-16 team that's going to take a quarterback. It's not Brown's optimism season on your Twitter feed because I have noticed these little arrows shot their way

every time anything I'm not optimistic. I'm one of the only people that never does I don't think anyone listen I mean where how many places how many places

could Tyrod Taylor go where he would be seen as the unquestioned starter? I just wish you at a chance. Maybe the Jets could have been a team that could have gone in that direction.

The Browns are paying He'll have a lot of money. Yeah, he'll be fine. They decided to pay this salary. I'm just saying everybody now assumes now it's great to be on the Browns. I don't think. Well, how about let's be smart and not make that assumption? I mean, this is what we tried to do last year, and it was an utter failed job.

So let's not fall down the same wormhole again. I just wish the bills, you know, let him go. Where would you like him to, what would you like have them do? I would have liked the bills to just set Tyrod free. Do you think he would have made $16 million this year if they didn't try him? They did pick up a third round pick, which I would not have. He's really signed. I don't know.

I mean, they got a, the bills have to think about themselves as well. They got a pick and return. Arizona Cardinals panic move, give him like $20 million guaranteed over three years. This Cordy Glenn move is a big move, though, for the Bengals. I mean, they get a premier left tackle, which was their worst position. Andy Dalton's flying tonight. Is he, though? Yeah.

He doesn't fly. He's like, you know. Maybe a light sprint. He's getting a hop. He's getting dessert at Applebee's. He's like getting the ex. He's like, I'm going to treat myself. Honey, we're putting hot fudge on the Sunday tonight.

Finally, in the news. Derek Johnson, the all-time leading tackle of the history of the games with a touchdown for Kansas City. Sean McDonough. That was the voice of Sean McDonough. His call of the Derek Johnson not touchdown in the playoffs. And it is sad because that probably is the most. memorable aspect of Sean McDonough's Monday night football career on ESPN.

It is now over, first reported, I believe, by the New York Post that McDonough will not be back in the booth and has been swapped out with Joe Tessator, Joe Tessatore, who is the number two college guy for ESPN. So they're essentially flipping spots. So McDonough, and we talked about, remember in our Donnelly, forgiveness podcast, which multiple listeners corrected me. The actual name of that song is Heart of the Matter. Yes.

Not that I knew at the time either, but it's true. Forgiveness, Greg, is in the chorus. The Heart of the Matter is the name of the song. Okay. Well, I had nothing. Don't you think you cut to the heart of the matter by calling in forgiveness? You were the one that had to forgive Sean McDonough, I believe, because I didn't. I always tried to defend him in his performance.

Right. What I did in the forgiveness podcast was say, I forgive. I forgive you, Sean, for replacing Toriko, which was never your fault in the first place. And I hope you get a chance at a fresh start, but that's not going to happen. So McDonough is out, and Monday Night Football is going to have Tessatore. You got anything to say about that? A nice Italian-American, Mark, any stereotypes you want to throw out? No, Tessatore, very versatile, according to the people to work.

Does boxing, horse-raising, college football, now pro football? I mean, I had to look him up when I, it's not someone that stuck out my mind. The one notable is that it sounds like Peyton Manning will definitely not be going to Monday night football. They are in Manning is a lot of networks are lining up to give this guy $10 million a year, Manning. And ESPN, it's been reported that he was their target. He was the guy, we want our Tony Romo, you're our, you're Peyton Manning. There it is. It's now confirmed, Mark.

Your shingled no longer hanging out. Cordy Glenn with Rapsheet. We are watching NFL Network and Rapsheet is currently discussing it. Shingles back in. Felt comfortable all along about this. Well, there's pretty. A pretty significant, a very significant update in terms of the details of the trade, which is that the Bills and the Bengals are swapping first round picks.

Whoa. Bills have 21 and 22, I believe. So what are the Bengals at? The Bills are now moving up. It's believed that they want to draft the quarterback. We will update it in real time. but they're obviously moving up in the draft because the Bengals had a worse record.

Very interesting. Back to Monday Night Football. Yeah. So Manning reportedly does not want to work on the weekends, so he will not take the job. So we'll see who Tessatore, or Tessitore, is paired with. My only thing with all this Monday night football stuff is you always hear, there's been a lot of changes, and you'll hear this a lot at ESPN,

that Monday night football is the premier, you know, most historic place that there is in football broadcasting. It's the pinnacle. And that's just not true. It's not true anymore. But you hear this all the time with the press releases and everything. And I think the changeover in the last few years at ESPN, it's just, it's not that anymore. That ended to me when ABC no longer carried it.

And Sunday night football is the premier place. And Thursday night is ultimately a better spot too. And Monday Night Football is great. I'm just saying it's not, people are always trying to connect it with the old Monday night football. It's just different. It's not special that way. To circle back, the Bengals had the number 12th pick in the draft. So the bills now get that.

They are absolutely zeroing in on their quarterback. I like what they're doing. They are being super aggressive to get whoever it is thereafter. It really reminds me of the Eagles trading Byron Maxwell and Kiko Alonzo to Miami to move up in that year's draft. well before the draft happened, and that move helped set up their move up for Carson Went. That's right. One last note. I want to do my power rankings for Pinnacle for broadcasting in the NFL.

Number one, Sunday night football, biggest audience, biggest stage, biggest games. Number two and three, whatever you think right now is the hotter conference, maybe the one that has Tom Brady in it. But the CBS number one team and the Fox number one team, two and three, put them in the order you want. Four, Monday night football. And then I'll put Thursday night football at five. Or eight. I agree with your top three, but I would flip. I'm just saying there might be three empty spots before TNF.

Oh, I see. Okay. Sorry. This was Mark's last podcast for a minute. Well, all right. How about this? More people are watching on Thursday nights. I know I needed cults Broncos in like mid-December.

I'm just saying. You're not getting an argument from me. There are more people watching on Thursday night. on broadcast television, then there will be on Monday night football. That's just a fact. It's a significant amount. It's the number two show, really. So I would put that ahead.

But I agree that the Sunday afternoons are ultimately a bigger spot than either of those. I mean, how many people are loving themselves some Tony Robles? What about 10 a.m. West Coast time, Florham Park, New York. That's as hot as it gets. It's as hot as it gets, baby. What about the Hall of Fame game in August? Well, it's so important that two years ago it was. canceled and no one remembers that.

All right. We will be back on Wednesday. Do not get your shingle in a bundle when the show doesn't go up when you expect it on Wednesday. We're going to wait a little longer in the day. I don't really know what a shingle is. But you can assume what I think I think. Sounds a little gross. Like, wait, like shingles the disease that Terry Bradshaw advertises here for?

Don't get that in a bundle. There's like, I've been, you know, watching out for my family since I, was hanging out my shingle. I've heard that. Anybody know hanging out my shingle? I mean, that sounds like you, I have no idea what that would mean. Maybe you live in some sort of like a young person's flop house

when you have no money. All I'm thinking is that uncomfortable 60 second ad that Terry Bradshaw has talking about how painful it is living with shingles. And I don't know. I don't get scared at much, but I've had some nightmares about shingles. They're coming after me because they don't do the 30 second spot. I swear it's like a 90 second spot with Terry Brattschall.

grads, yelling at you about singles. By the way, the hang out of shingle is to open a business. So it's not really being used properly. It's absurd. Anyway, you hung out your shingle, though. Did I open a business? I'm just continuing to... Yeah, the newsbreaking business, baby.

You might have... It might have opened a kimona. We'll be back. So, yeah, what I was saying was later, we're going to put up the show later on Wednesday because we want to get some of that good free agency goodness when the window opens at 4 p.m. Eastern. so look for the podcast

though on Wednesday and then another one on Friday this is money time in the NFL and that's fun to talk about that's it for today's show Dan Hans is signing off for Quiet Storm The old boss He's got to catch up Jerry McGuire

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