NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Super Bowl 54 Recap

Episode Date: February 3, 2020

A stadium filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal recap the Kansas City Chiefs' epic come-from-behind victory to end a 50-year drought and claim the Lombardi... Trophy in the NFL's 100th season. The heroes break down the biggest moments of the game and discuss what stood out on the field in this year's season finale. It's not all football, the heroes dive into halftime entertainment (28:28), and reflect on the astounding prediction Chris "Mad Dog" Russo made on the Super Bowl LIV preview show (30:44).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:44 There it is, Mitch Holtus. He's been waited his whole damn life to make that call. And cheese fans, they've been waiting 50 years for their team to hoist the Lombardi. And it finally happened on this, the second day of February. 2020. The Kansas City Chiefs are the Super Bowl champions after that 31 to 20 win over the San Francisco 49ers, a game in which they were down like they were in all their postseason games by double digits, this time in the fourth quarter. And yet Patrick Mahomes and company would not be denied. Dan Hansis here, the Around the NFL podcast presented by Little Caesars. And yes, I'm
Starting point is 00:02:22 coming to you from a hard rock stadium that is filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris wrestling and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. Still filled with some Chiefs, fans and employees. Usually, I feel like we start the taping after midnight, got it going a little quicker, like there's still an MVP chant going on. It was exciting. These fans don't want to leave.
Starting point is 00:02:48 They've waited, you know, half a century for this. Yeah, usually when we're here, it feels like we're ghosts, like passing through a stadium and you can't you're not sure if you're human or not until you get back to the hotel but in this case we're here the field is covered in confetti and we're on the third level of the really nice hard rock stadium here in Miami it was a great Super Bowl week a lot of fun a great city for a Super Bowl the 11th Super Bowl in this area which is most just past New Orleans and if you're a cheese fan this was the dream come true and I got to to watch the second half of this game, uh,
Starting point is 00:03:29 in the seats, uh, with my cousin, Matt. And I just, you know, watching so an older gentleman guy looked like he was in his 50s with his wife, um, a cheese fan in Jersey as that game, it became clear after obviously the Damien, well, even before the Damien Williams run that clinched it, um, it was becoming clear. Then the Williams touchdown. And then you, there was this release like, oh my God, the chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl and it was a well-earned win and one that didn't look particularly like it was heading in this direction even halfway through the fourth quarter well i the chiefs to me their players and coach kind of remind me of the fans it's been so long since they got that
Starting point is 00:04:13 super bowl and for andy read it's been so long a guy like frank clark finds his way there honey badger finds his way to kansas city to make this happen terrell sucks is lucky enough to come along for ride at the end of the year. A lot of guys just find their way to Kansas City and ended up winning this one. And you're right. Fourth quarter at midway through the fourth quarter, 49ers had a 95.6% win probability. And I know that's not your favorite step. The latest evidence that people need to stop talking about win probability. It means nothing other than a Twitter talking point. It means it's unlikely the other team's going to win. And now, No, duh.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Kyle Shanahan, it peaked at about 99.6% against the Patriots early in the fourth quarter, and now he's had 95.6%. Well, that percentage, I don't think, takes into account Patrick Mahomes. It just doesn't. Or the Chief's offense, or Andy Reed. Like, the way that you have to dominate Patrick Mahomes and make his life uncomfortable for 60 minutes, I think is the hardest thing to do in the NFL. The 49ers balled out on defense, not unlike, I believe, the Seahawks balled out on defense against the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:05:28 They did so many things right for the first three quarters. I think in a lot of scenarios and with a lot of quarterbacks, that game would have been 27 to 6 with eight minutes left in the fourth quarter, and there never could have been a comeback. But Mahomes got out of a lot of plays that could have gone worse. He had a lot of negative plays. The Chief's defense did just enough. And it just shows you, yeah, you can do a lot well.
Starting point is 00:05:52 They held them to 5.3 yards per play, which is a very low number for the Chiefs. And the Chiefs still put up 31 points and nine drives. They barely had the ball and they still went over 30. Not surprising because that's what they've been doing for months and months. And if we had one kernel of information going for the last two weeks to base all our analysis on, that the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes would open the third quarter with back-to-back picks by Patrick Mahomes and that the Niners would be nestling a 20 to 10 lead minutes into the 4th. You would think this is a perfect setup for San Francisco to run away with this thing.
Starting point is 00:06:31 But if you give Patrick Mahomes even 10 minutes to operate and it gets hot, everything's off the table. 52 and a half minutes of game time, the Niners balled out on D. And I remember thinking as the game was reaching as it's ticking through the fourth quarter and they have a 20 to 10 lead and thinking myself, what made the Chiefs so unstoppable when they were humming in the regular season, but especially in those two comebacks
Starting point is 00:07:00 in the AFC playoffs, it was that big play ability that the Niners, through their dominant front four, were taking away. Mahomes running for his life, just bit by his brilliance, kept this game close
Starting point is 00:07:14 because almost any other quarterback this side of Lamar Jackson has a couple, sacks fumbles and the game gets away like what von miller did to cam newton a few years back but he was able to stay on his feet keep the game from getting away and the get what really sticks out to me at that moment again midway through the fourth quarter after the tyreek hill catch is overturned on review and you feel the entire building is psyching up it feels like the niners are about to make the big play about two plays away from winning the super bowl it is third and a mile it's third and 14 i believe
Starting point is 00:07:49 and I leaned to my cousin Matt. I said, the most likely play is that you get, try to get half of this back and then make a manageable fourth down, fourth and five and get it done. But no, that's not what the chiefs do. That's not how they operate. And even in a game where they never made any big plays with the season on the line, Mahomes dropped back and this time found Tyree Kill West on a busted coverage.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And that changed everything. It was fun to watch that in person because you see Mahomes drop back and unfurl the ball. before Tyreek Hill breaks open. He doesn't even know where Tyreek Hill is on the field. He just lets it go as far as it can. It was a huge play, and the 49er's secondary let down their pass rush. That play where they lost Tyreek Hill was a Tradavius More defensive pass interference in the end zone. Richard Sherman, losing Watkins.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Getting beat by Sammy Watkins off the line of scrimmage. A lot of big plays there by the secondary allowed. Let's listen to that. Let's listen to that call, the big 44-yarder because it really changed everything. The game was never the same after that play. Four-man rush, but those four are enough. Here they come. Mahomes stepping up. He's throwing long downfield for Tyreek Hill.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Got it. That's a 20-yard line. And then spawned down there. The first giant chunk of the game on third down and 15. And Mahomes guns it for 44 yards. Down to the San Francisco 21-yard line. Wes hit on it so well with the anticipation that he needed to trust Tyreek Hill to be there. but the reason he had to let it go
Starting point is 00:09:21 was because DeForest Buckner, who had a great game and I think could have been in the mix for MVP if anyone ever voted for defensive players if the 49ers had won, hit Patrick Mahomes on that play pretty much right after he let go of the ball. But I love that you brought up that, you know, Dan, that they went for a long pass on that play
Starting point is 00:09:39 rather than going short because that is kind of what's different about these cheeps and especially Andy Reid. Maybe it's Patrick Mahomes who changed him or maybe it's Andy Reid who has a great effect on Mahom. you can't really answer that, but their aggressiveness was so key. And Mahomes mentioned it was the same play call as in the fourth quarter against the Patriots
Starting point is 00:09:58 in the AFC championship game last year in a very similar third and very long situation that they dialed it up for Tyree Kill and they hit it then. And that game kind of reminded me of this one where the Patriots played perfect defense and the Chiefs scored 21 points in the fourth quarter just like they did a year ago. The difference this time is the Chief's defense. made stops. The Chief's defense let Patrick Mahomes go win games. You're rolling your eyes, Mark. No, not at all. I mean, I look at the Niners' offense because I said this was going to be the game where Kyle Shanahan, this was going to be his coronation. And after that second Mahomes
Starting point is 00:10:34 interception, that's where I thought they could seal this thing. And instead, they go three and out and can't generate anything. It's a punt. And it's like they had chances through the entire fourth quarter to be what the Niners have been on offense in this postseason. And they looked nothing like it. And I was, you're right, that the Chief's defense, which won't be talked about as much as Patrick Mahomes, because Patrick Mahomes is the most talked about American over the last two weeks of all. I mean, and it's just like, fine, let's just keep talking about Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:11:04 He had two ugly interceptions. This is probably one of his weakest games of the year until the final 15 minutes. And the Niners offense went to sleep. I think if you're a Niners fan, you have to be extremely frustrated with how they disassociated from who they've been down the stretch. The whole game. The whole game, I thought, the play calling was the play calling of a head coach who was worried about a quarterback being the deciding factor in a game. And it didn't help that Jimmy Garapolo threw that ugly interception early in the game where he was just throwing in nowhere, where, you know, there was pressure on him early and he just kind of threw it up to nothing.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And maybe that did make Kyle Shanan a little conservative. He talked about how at the end of the first half, he took a lot of greed. you know, on Twitter, I'm sure he didn't know about it, but, you know, by going run, not taking a time out and then running the ball twice before they wound it up, you know, wound up hitting a big play and almost getting a field goal, but it was a very conservative approach.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And he said we were very comfortable being 10 to 10. We were happy to go to halftime 10 to 10. If we hit a big run on that first run, then we would have maybe gone for it more. And that, that was shocking. Does that sound like the 49ers to you? Not at all. We had another great season with Sky Sports and Neil Reynolds and the whole gang.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And at the end of the first quarter, Mark and I went and did a Sky Sports hit with Josh Norman. An excellent hit, by the way. I thought it was maybe a perfect hit. Close to. Maybe a 12 out of time it's been a season long battle every time two of us come downstairs from the podcast studio after two of us do a sky. It doesn't really matter which two it is. We immediately tell the other two. like you're not going to talk about.
Starting point is 00:12:49 But it's a battle in your mind, Greg, because Dan and I are immediately DM by Neal suggesting that was some of the best television we've seen. Were you the guy that said basically every time you say something, then the opposite happens right as you leave that idea. Don't let us try to take the shine away. Because you know how our last hit on Sky Sports ended, it ended with me calling out our producer, Mace, sorry Mace,
Starting point is 00:13:10 who right when Jimmy G, I mean, right when Mahomes throws that second interception, he said game over. And then we get on the air. and I just started talking about there's no way this thing this game is over we've seen it too many times defenses in 2020
Starting point is 00:13:25 So you turn this into a pro Greg now So I'm going to get back to my initial Which was if you're going to say it was Josh Norman Former all pro cornerback You know active player After we got up there right around The Jimmy G. Pick
Starting point is 00:13:40 And the last thing Norman said And then we went to break was like This guy's a game manager And I was like oh He's still battling that And I'm not saying this is not on Jimmy G, this loss. But again, the play that comes to mind. Again, it's 2010.
Starting point is 00:13:54 They get the big play to Hill, the Chiefs. They get in the end zone on the Kelsey touchdown. It's 2017. Things are still okay. You have a big third and five and you just got to make a play. Somebody's got to step up. And I know Kyle Shanahan is people that love Shanahan. And I have all the respect in the world for him as a coach.
Starting point is 00:14:14 But it just, this is the way sports work, man. he's now got this around his neck and it's going to just continue to build around him as a career narrative that you had 283 OC with the Falcons four years ago now you can 2010 lead and you needed this offense this genius and Wes you wrote an amazing piece on NFL.com
Starting point is 00:14:34 breaking down these offenses and the quarterback play somebody's got to make a play and maybe you've got to dial up a play to help out your team when they're starting to get a little tight and they couldn't do it And that is going to stick with Niners fans for a long time.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, I saw Andy Reid's wife after the game said he was as calm as, I just saw an interview on TV. I didn't actually see her. But she said that he was as calm as a cucumber. And he was treating this like it was just another game. And that's something that you always say. But I think you could tell that he handled it a little bit differently than Kyle Shanahan. Well, I think we should give Steve Spagnolo some credit for how that,
Starting point is 00:15:16 fourth quarter played out that's three Greg he's got three rings as a dc now right no or two he only got one in new york oh he's only got one so he's got two now one in each conference like one of the great dc's of all time or at least the last 10 years i mean he's a big game bc and i think the chief's coaching staff to their credit kept trying different things uh on offense and defense throughout the game so something worked and in the fourth quarter they started dialing up press and And this is where I do think you can kind of put it on Jimmy G, you know, to some extent. They started dialing up pressure in those last three drives that went nowhere. And it was pretty clear where the pressure's coming from.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Troy is calling it before the play. It's like it's overloaded. They did it again and again. And Jimmy G. held the ball. And he took some sacks. And Kendall Fuller made a big time play. And Chris Jones knew the pressure was coming and just waited for Jimmy G to throw it up. one third down and just jumped up and slapped it down.
Starting point is 00:16:18 He made a lot of big play. So the players made big plays, but they didn't get it all blocked up. And when they did, Jimmy G. didn't have an answer. And sometimes that's the difference between a guy like Mahomes or a guy like Brady having an answer
Starting point is 00:16:31 when those blitzes come in a big spot. He didn't have an answer. I thought that after the interception by Jimmy G early on, that there was at least a two-quarter chunk of the game where he did respond well. And he, you know, he's not making killer downfield throws.
Starting point is 00:16:45 locked in for a large after that pick and before the chief's comeback he could not miss in fact every throw was right on the numbers in the hands that's what makes this such a a tough loss for the night always the Super Bowl loss is devastating but they looked like they were rolling the defense was lights out and Garoppolo was on target and it changed so quickly yeah he got a fourth quarter Garoppolo got a higher PFF grade for this game than Mahomes and I'm not saying it was even that close. But you still, we started talking on the way over here, and there is kind of a conversation.
Starting point is 00:17:19 It wasn't a great Mahomes game compared to other games, because he did have those negative plays. He had, you know, he took three, the worst games I've seen him play. And a couple of interceptions. Josh Norman's calling him. No, no, no, I know. That's what I'm saying. Josh Norman's calling him rattled at a few times while he's playing.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Oh, he was. He was frenetic. And you could think of that drive that ended with the red zone interception, where he threw the ball behind Hill. And some of the 49ers receivers helped out Jimmy G. He was off the mark multiple times in the first half. That gets intercepted. But so many of the plays that Mahomes had to make,
Starting point is 00:17:54 I think were with his first or second read taken away. And he just had to make something happen. And he did that pretty often. And he was never comfortable. But ultimately, you get credit for once your defense gets the ball back, you drove them down the field for those two touchdowns to win the Super Bowl. Like, that's what ultimately matters. I'm not giving him credit for Damian Williams' 38-yard touchdown.
Starting point is 00:18:17 That's the first time we mentioned Damian Williams' name. And he should have been the MVP. Bad job by the voters on that one. Actually, good job sandwich-wise for me. Yeah, but they're basically saying no position is worth celebrating except the quarterback in this game. I don't understand how he's named MVP when it is probably the second or third worst game of his entire career.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I mean, because there's only two 10.4th quarter coming. wild right now. I know you're not wild because you're crazy, you are bypassing all of the bad plays. Dude, he made bad plays. But 2010 in the fourth go to the Super Bowl, 10 plays 83 yards, 7 plays 65 yards. Leave out the last touchdown. That is as money as it gets in the biggest of all spots. And I know.
Starting point is 00:19:01 So what Damien Williams did just doesn't even matter. I didn't say that. He had a better game than Mahomes. That's fine. I mean, let's calm down with that. He had one. He didn't calm down. He did.
Starting point is 00:19:10 It was a garbage time touchdown. essentially at the end that spiked his stats too. He was having a good game in the first half. I thought they showed a lot of trust of Damien Williams. I would at least have the gate. Not talking to MVP, but that they established their run game early on. I would have given Damien Williams the MVP too. He did make people miss. He made a receiving touchdown. I'm not like offended by it because it is a great comeback. There's this, you know, that stat that, you know, our shadowy league figure, Mark Brady sent us that only three teams in the history of the Super Bowl have gone into the fourth quarter. quarter with a 10-point lead and blown it.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And unfortunately, Kyle Shanahan's been the coach, you know, of the last two to happen. And I got thinking about it. And I was like, well, Richard Sherman's been on two of those two. You know, Tom Brady had a 14-point fourth quarter comeback against what that year was the most ferocious defense, very similar in a lot of ways when the Patriots came back against the Seahawks. So, and Patrick Mahomes did it today. It's like, I don't care how you get there.
Starting point is 00:20:07 If you could do that in that spot, and he made a lot of plays before that, I'm not going to be too upset that he wins an MVP. Let me just say one more thing about in terms of Mahomes, statistically far from his best game. And was he sloppy early on? And did he make some mistakes? But I just want to hit on again how ferocious the Niners were in their pass rush. And I thought there were several plays, even if they didn't lead to big gains or didn't
Starting point is 00:20:31 necessarily lead to scoring drives, where it seemed like a lesser quarterback would have been snowed under. He was escaping pressure all game, running for his life. and I just think those are the things that maybe doesn't show up in the box score and it's also why I don't buy the idea oh, he's rattled because he threw a pick or two. I think he stayed, he had remarkable
Starting point is 00:20:49 composure in my mind against a defense that smelled blood and he refused to back down. I think it was not a perfect game by him, but a reminder of why he's so special. I'd also wonder after the first of two huge shots he took in this game, that first hit he took, was he entirely
Starting point is 00:21:05 healthy? Was he entirely healthy? We just don't know. I mean, he might have been working through some stuff. But the Niners just, their secondary collapsed in the end, but they played a nice job early on of like not giving him a lot of looks downfield. Right. Like Fred Warner was awesome. I guess that's, that's the point I'm trying to make is I think the best defense in the league played their very best for three quarters and they still lost. So that to me is a measure of the greatness of the Chiefs and Andy Reed. And the whole organization, like the whole team, because the defense really did make some baller plays in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I mean, they really did make stops. Most Chiefs games this year, or certainly last year, like they didn't make those stops, and it would just have been going back and forth. In the end, you didn't even have to sweat out the ending. It's their trademark. It's not just that they're the first team ever to come from behind double digits three times in a playoff run.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It's that they ended up winning all three of those games by double digits. They've got a fast break offense like a basketball team, and every AFC team now has to be. build their team to stop the Chiefs offense. And it helps make Andy Reid more bold, I think. Like, he, if he had, there was a criticism of Andy Reid. It was that he was an aggressive coach until he got a big lead. He was the guy who would blow big leads.
Starting point is 00:22:24 He would get conservative. And you have to say, like, in the first half of this game, he was the aggressive one. He went for it on fourth down multiple times and he hit it. Like, and points came from those. Kyle Shanahan kicked a field goal on fourth and two. They were on the goal line, and he's doing direct snaps to Damien Williams on fourth and one from the four.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I mean, that is about as, that is as ballsy a call as the Philly special, and it was not a good snap. It was one of the most underrated plays in that game. The direct snap that went to Damien Williams was like a foot and a half to his right, and Damien Williams snatched that thing, and then he went in.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And if most running backs, I feel like, aren't going to catch that, and everyone's killing Andy Reed. So it gets to it. Sometimes it's these players that make the bold plays look good. And like Andy Reid was going for all game. Like to score that touchdown, they were running option plays where Mahomes was getting killed. Like, those were brilliant play calls. You know what the hell of it is? How many times do you think Kyle Shanahan in the last three years has told himself,
Starting point is 00:23:31 giving himself a pep talk and said, if I ever get this chance again to get back in the Super Bowl, I'm going to be aggressive. I'm going to go for it. We're going to handle four downs differently. And when push came to shove, coach the same way he did. The last time he blew a little. Steady reminds me more of Sean McVeigh
Starting point is 00:23:47 coming out of last year's Super Bowl where you're going to have an offseason questioning everything that happened in this 60 minutes. I see, I never, I think you're right, West, but I also never, I didn't put almost any of 23 on Kyle CNN. And I put a lot more on this. And I will remember.
Starting point is 00:24:03 He had regrets after that. Cam, you know he did. Oh, no, I know he did. But I don't think he necessarily did a lot of things wrong. He got too much of the blame. Except that it will be a talking point all off season, whether you think that or not. Right. This year, though, I think he deserves the blame.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And it's going to really haunt me the image they showed. I think it was after the... Haunt you. I want to hear about this. I don't know if it was like the Williams. I'm serious. You got a lot going for you. I don't know if it was like the Williams.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Greg's going to wake up like Axel Rose in the November rain video covered in sweat, heaving. I don't know if maybe it was. the failed fourth down by the 49ers that gave the chiefs the ball the last time or was the williams run but they did a quick sideline shot of kyle shanahan where it looked like all the air was out of his body and he just looked like a ghost like it was like the moment that he knew it it had all happened again they just looked like that was a tough press conference to listen to he was like just through great he he handled it really well but you had to feel because when you when when you're the OC in Atlanta and the and the unthinkable happens you know what that hurts that will stick with you forever but the next day you're on a plane and you're going to the press conference to take a new head coaching job when you're in the big chair I'm sure this one will will haunt him speaking of haunting this that's going to stay with him forever and hopefully because he seems like a good dude and he's a great coach he's an exciting type guy to have in the league because he's so smart and he's changing the game uh with the way he's
Starting point is 00:25:33 he's calling games. You just hope he has another chance to get to the summit because maybe we're looking at the new Andy Reid, you know, now that Reed is the guy that everyone respected is this great offensive mind that could never get over the hump and read, like you want to talk of winners and losers, maybe we'll do some at the end of the show. Andy Reid's such a big winner. He's the biggest. And we talked about the week and everybody talked about it.
Starting point is 00:25:57 But I just, I honestly feel like in my years covering the sport and just being a football fan, Reid has been just such a remarkably durable and impressive head coach, but he needed that one. He needed this one to really be the guy that you say, no-brainer for Canton, and he's the guy. We've talked about how he's the godfather and he's got the coaching tree and he's got the longevity and he's got the wins, but now he's got the ring.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Well, it seems slightly absurd to me with the whole Hall of Fame thing that had they been nipped in this game that suddenly he's not a Hall of Famer win, all these qualities are still true of him. Oh, not there, but that's exactly how it works because you'd be hard-pressed to find too many other coaches that would get in in that situation. So, in a way, it feels very just. And this game is not a game where, for me,
Starting point is 00:26:46 one side was easy to root against. They're both very likable teams. And the chiefs, though, this feels like a long time coming. I think the stadium had to be 65% chiefs. Now, that's me guessing when we were the three of us, Greg Wes and I, and I, and I want, this is a comment I would make about watching football in person, tucked away in a, and this was very nice that they put us in these nice seats in this press box,
Starting point is 00:27:10 but thick soundglass windows and soundless TVs. And it was an odd experience trying to track the emotion of the game. And Dan, you were out there in the second half with one of your cousins, and you felt the second half in a totally different way than I did. I have to say, as somebody that grew up as a teenager, once I realized, I wasn't going to play sports professionally. I wanted to write about sports. And then when I started working at the Journal News in Westchester County, New York,
Starting point is 00:27:39 and started to learn what the business was about, I became very quickly disillusioned by it to see how I got into it for the love of it, and then it gets kind of sucked away, and it becomes a job for people. And this is no disrespect for all the great reporters up there because there were all the best football writers in the business were up there. But I couldn't, I felt like we were hermetically sealed.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Right. that's well put behind that glass and uh it just reminded me honestly more than anything else just how lucky we are uh that we get to experience the sport as fans still that it just it's just it's crazy to me that that's how uh you know sports writers tend to cover these games from the box one thing you could hear in that box the the moment that's going to be on andy read a football life when they start chanting his name you know with a few seconds left the entire chiefs section just Chandy, Andy, Andy. That was nice. Yeah, I, it was a reminder, like, that when you're in the press box, it all seems like a rumor. And I think you get, I was in a library. I had a whisper to you guys. Yeah, there was, there was nothing, there's nothing. It's just different. I mean, that's, that's how it is. Normally, you know, we're out in the crowd or in an open air thing. And we actually were lucky to get moved down there. You know, we got helped out by doing that. But I, when, you're in person, it goes by
Starting point is 00:29:02 so fast and you do get that, you do are reminded watching it in person in general whether you're in the crowd or not that, oh, these are just like people playing a game and it doesn't feel as like weighty and emotional and crazy. Like what, even when it's your team
Starting point is 00:29:17 and I've watched the Patriots obviously here at these, you're just like, oh, these are just like dudes on a field playing the game whereas at home it feels like life and death and gladiators, but that's TV. Like you really that's the show like that's that's that's TV it's not necessarily the the sport itself um all right let's let's pause here half time let's talk half time what did you guys think of a shikira and jala
Starting point is 00:29:44 i think it might have been one of the i love the bonce one i think this might have been one of the best half times that i've ever seen but i've had of any super bowl i thought they both knocked it completely huge massive home runs i have a prediction i think this is the this is the future of the halftime show that it's so hard to hit on an artist that everybody's into, but I like the idea of this co-headline where you get the 12 minutes, and in this
Starting point is 00:30:10 case, Shakira takes the stage. Shakira, outrageous. I get the appeal. What a nice job. Yeah, you're in a big spot. Chris Russo, you know, I'm using Chris Russo language again. Oh, because Shakira, she's a nice job out there, Mikey. She's a really well.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I wonder what his actual assessment is, but yes. As someone, someone I saw a point out and like Twitter was very horny after that that And then J-Lo comes out around the six-minute mark She does great work And you remember, oh, she's got some bangers I kind of forgot J-Lo had bangers
Starting point is 00:30:41 And it was a good half-time The Maroon 5 was a large misstep And now we're back on track Let's go more co-headliners And mix up the genres and go that route I would say one thing, you know I'm the one that put in the homework and saw hustlers This is this last off-season
Starting point is 00:30:59 and was roundly, you know, dismissed by the three of you for doing that. But I knew this was coming after watching that performance. You weren't dismissed. You were more questioned. It was like, why did he go opening night? I know how I felt and I felt totally dismissed. I did not go at night time to begin with. It was like, it was a week.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You had opened morning? It was a week into the run. And all that said, I will, I just want to say this, not to get too off track. But as I vouch for co-headlining gigs, I went to this AT&T party where Lady Gaga did a whole show last night. she should be the first person to ever do a headline again that there's not too many out there Gaga is where it's at to me
Starting point is 00:31:35 right now in terms of pop stars that have the the true reach I'm all Team Gaga for a second go around but yes I did like the co-headline Best music performance of the night I thought was Yolanda Adams singing God bless America she was fantastic
Starting point is 00:31:50 Yolanda did a nice she was a nice shot by Yolanda the anthem was good too what about Akina Snow what was her name Lavato did a nice show It's Snow Allegra? Hey, Mikey. I'm waiting for her. Speaking of Chris Russo, the Mad Dog was on our preview show on Thursday at Radio Row.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And do we have that, Ricky? He made a prediction that maybe it's time to, like, plug in on all Chris Russo-related predictions. Let's listen in. I think it's a dead evening game. I think first of 31 will win. I'll probably lean Mahomes. There you go.
Starting point is 00:32:23 31.20. The Mad Dog nails it. I guess doing this for nearly four decades allows you to see things that others do not. It's funny. When he said that, I thought that was an interesting, like, very specific thing to say. It was like, okay, if someone gets the 31, I guess that would be good for them. If they got the 31 first, that's big. That's good.
Starting point is 00:32:44 All right, let's get back to the game. Scientists, something that jumped out to you guys as you were watching this game. The George Kittle offensive pass interference. Ooh. Do you like the call? I don't like it. But all we saw Al Riveron took us through a play remarkably like this during our talent summit way back in June. And most of the crowd said, no.
Starting point is 00:33:04 He asked us, is this pass interference? And most people said, no, it's not. He said, yes, it is. And the coaches want it called offensive pass interference. And when you watch it, I rewatch it about seven different times. It's just a weak call to me. I disagree with Al Riveron then. I disagree with him now.
Starting point is 00:33:19 That's not enough. Considering all of the pushing and hand checking that goes on between receivers and DBs downfield, to me you let that go. It was a huge playing in the game. Just a little context. That was late in the second quarter. The Niners and, you know, Kyle Shannon, we're not going to pile on this guy. It's a tough night for him. But some of the clock management at the end
Starting point is 00:33:38 of the second quarter, I thought he was a little lethargic. But it's a deep throw down the right side line. To me, he pushed off a little but it's like, what are you going to, when these guys are these gladiators are in combat trying to just get open. I didn't think it was anything egregious. It's the
Starting point is 00:33:53 extension. It changed. It costs them. So the best throw of the night by Garoppel. Beautiful throw. It cost them at least three points. And who knows what happens if they might have went in there. Who knows? Yeah, it was a fascinating turn of events in that couple of minutes where it could have gone either way. Kyle Shanian was just trying to run the ball and go to halftime, which, you know, we've talked about already and was kind of gutless.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Wow. But then Reid went the other way. And he took a timeout at third and five with 19 seconds. He said, I don't want to go to half time. I want to try to get Patrick Mahomes a ball. I'm going to trust my defense here. It didn't pay off that the 49ers ended up getting in a position to do it. And then the kiddle call, you know, ended up kind of evening out.
Starting point is 00:34:37 He was moving and his arm was extended. And so I just feel like that is that they're going to call that when it's totally extended. And there's contact. The only problem which I would understand 49ers arguing about is they weren't calling anything. And I'm a little, I'm a little, I guess, ambivalent about. them calling in old Bill Vinovich here for the Super Bowl because he's known to not call any penalties. And they love putting in big spots. And I thought Mike Pereira, I think it was him, made a great point in the week. All the biggest problems the NFL has had in the last few years
Starting point is 00:35:14 in big moments have been non-calls. And so they bring old Vinovich in because they don't call it. This crew doesn't call any penalties. They were letting him hand check and battle all night. So maybe it wasn't But there's a huge subset of the football community that would rather have a game be light on calls than heavy. I don't want an exhibition of football entertainment where it's all flags going over the field, Greg. Come on. I was going to say, and Wes, it's, I'm glad you brought it up because I'm such a big play
Starting point is 00:35:44 in the game. But championship weekend and Super Bowl Sunday, I'm glad there wasn't some massive officiating brouhaha, and there wasn't over the last. three games of the season, the three most important games. So that to me was a positive because it was getting to be rega-cdiculous, to be quite honest with you. I'll throw
Starting point is 00:36:05 out one thing that I'll remember from this game. I think 49ers fans really will too. And maybe not quite the same, but similar to that Jared Gough throw last year that Jason McCordy broke up. You know, we got on Kyle Shanahan
Starting point is 00:36:21 for not being aggressive. Third and 10, it's It's 144 left, I believe, still at the, or no, it's a little earlier than that. Third and 10, you know, are they going to try to get five yards and then go for it on fourth down? No, they set up a shot play for their quarterback, Jimmy Garapolo, to go deep down the field. Emmanuel Sanders is open. He beats his guy in a huge spot where you need that first down to keep the game going. They say, no, we see something we like, let's let Jimmy go down the.
Starting point is 00:36:55 the field for a 50-yard touchdown. Sanders beats his guy and Jimmy doesn't give him a chance. And I, you know, how much is Sanders not getting to the ball? Well, he overthrew him. I mean, he has the defender by a foot and a half. You got to give him a good angle. I didn't get a good angle that showed me that Jimmy was clearly wrong on this.
Starting point is 00:37:14 There was some pressure on the play, but I think Jimmy Gropoulos would say that's a throw I can make. I think to your point also, by then, that's when Kansas City was starting to light him up. And that play happened sandwiched in between a batted pass. Yep. It happened in between Kendrick Bourne and Kendall Fuller nearly picking off a pass by Jimmy G. Then the one you mentioned. And then in the grasp, fourth down, game over. Where he just, he froze a little bit and didn't get rid of the ball on that Frank Clark fourth down sack where you got to get rid of the ball. And so I think Jimmy G had a good season
Starting point is 00:37:51 and I think you could win a Super Bowl with him because he could have won tonight. But, But there's going to be questions about Jimmy G, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's just, again, a part of the game. And they, I think Tom Brady did an interview today. I think with his boy, Jim Gray. Yes, he was.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I could not answer your half time. They're oddly close. I took a walk at halftime and they were playing the half time interview. What, Mark? They were playing Tom Brady and Jim Gray. And Tom Brady was breaking down the game pretty good. I enjoyed it. Well, he's basically almost retarded.
Starting point is 00:38:25 hard at this point. Now his hair is gray, so it's very fitting. No, but he did say that something on some level is cliche, but when Tom Brady says that there's more gravitas to it, that this game and this stage, it could change your life.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And if you can make that play, if Jimmy Grappolo converts one more first down or makes one more big player or he most or makes a guy miss, we're not talking about any of this stuff. It's amazing and it's cruel in a lot of ways the way sports are but now Kyle Shanahan is almost like the new Andy Reid he should be so lucky to end up
Starting point is 00:38:59 like Andy Reid in 20 years but that he's going to be the guy is he going to be able to get over the hump and now Jimmy Garoppolo you got you got Josh Norman saying it on Sky Sports and now you're going to have every Gibronie on the morning talk show saying it is Jimmy G a true franchise quarterback or is he a game manager like that seems like a rough fate for Garoppolo who I think had a really really nice season overall it just didn't break his way in the end I know I know I'm not the only one who thought this, but from the way the game started and the way they were calling plays and how conservative they were, at every point in the game, I thought, even when they had the lead, the 49ers are going to have to pass to win this thing.
Starting point is 00:39:37 You were just going to have to have to. You were like that. You were annoyed that they were not aggressive. I mean, you look at kind of the target numbers for their good receivers, nine targets for Debo, who had a good game running and passing for 39 yards. Sanders, five targets for 38 yards. Kittle, seven targets for 37 yards. So there's nothing downfield.
Starting point is 00:40:00 They ultimately were just a little bit limited offensively that it was kind of a station-to-station type offense. You got George Kittal on your team and you're not. I mean, it felt like Chris Jones touched the ball more than George Kittle did. You've got to dial his number more often. Sometimes if you're George Kittle, you've been the best player on the field in games. You've got to go to the coach and say, get me the damn ball. um jumping away from the game for a second again because i just want to hit on this that i thought
Starting point is 00:40:27 very cool the NFL 100 celebration on the field there's some goosebumps moments on the field they they brought out all the um living players that were selected uh the 100 greatest players of all time a couple of fun moments on there uh Greg both patriot moments because you know they have such a large footprint on the game in recent years but just seeing gronk on the field guys 30 years old and he's he's in that company it's like oh he's getting this he's getting this applause and i'm sure the gronk boat cruise or whatever he did this weekend it was was a nice business thing the pictures of belichick and linda holiday at the drunk boat cruise with like some wrestlers and gronk and scantily glad women are amazing i just don't understand how unless he really enjoyed the gronk spike cruise
Starting point is 00:41:14 or whatever it was how you could come on the field and if his body's cooperating he doesn't want to come back out on the field but you know who knows and then And Belichick gets the hell boot out of him because, you know, he's Belichick. And then he flashes his rings on, I think, both hands, which is just a nice job. I have to show some respect and kiss the rings. I was sitting next to Greg during that pretty amazing Belichick moment. Greg couldn't stand up at that moment. He has nine rings.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And Greg was wondering, which three rings is he wearing? Like, that's the level of fan problems that Dan is, that Greg is dealing with at this point. Well, I was like Belichick is very calculated. So I bet there was a purpose to the three that he wore. but I don't know what the answer was. That's a nice job by Bill, though, going to the gronk red carpet. It's been, this is the first time in the four years. They weren't in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:42:02 It seemed like Bill and Linda had a nice little time this weekend in Miami. They did. That's a nice job by Bill and Linda. I don't want to make this any more about the Patriots than it should be. But that pick. It shouldn't be about the moment. Which is none at all, Greg. The picture of Moss, Vinet, Terry, Bray.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Belichick and Gronk. That's, that was pretty cool. That made me smile. Did, uh, did Randy Moss flash any rings when they cut to him? No, they didn't. No. And poor West Welker just lost, uh, where does the boss shot come from? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Poor Wes Welker just lost, uh, another heartbreaker too as the receivers coach of the 49ers. Oh, that's a bad. Yeah, that's tough for Wes. I, I really felt for him because there's so many Boston. sports reporters, you know, in general covering the NFL, and they all did their little Wes Welker story or interviewed him. And he did not want to be talking about Super Bowls. Poor guy.
Starting point is 00:43:05 You know, he's out here trying to make a career. Kyle Shannon believes in him as a coach. We should give the Chiefs fan some love. I want to have a direct, I want to share a direct quote right after the game, me and my cousin and watch a little bit of the podium riser and Andy Reid has this great moment and Hunt the team owner and it's a nice little thing
Starting point is 00:43:31 and then we're going down the ramp down to the ground level and a Chiefs fan and Ricky you're going to have to bleep this is just you know walking down the ramp talking to no one in particular holy shit that just happened holy shit that just happened
Starting point is 00:43:47 holy shit we are world champions and I as a dreamer Mark, as one of the few optimistic Jets fans that exist in the world, it does give you a little bit of hope. The fact that and the Chiefs have been a way more successful franchise over the last 30 years than the Jets of the Browns. But it is good to just see these teams. The Eagles a couple of years ago got off the Schneide and now the Chiefs. I know things are in a bad way, but it does remind you that these teams, your number tends to get called eventually. And you just keep the faith, as these chiefs fans did.
Starting point is 00:44:24 From the flip side, I mean, I look at Niners fans who are, no, no, it's, it's, you're right, you're right, but it's, it's not a stunner in the, from the minute they had Patrick Mahomes on the field. It's not that this, it's not stunning that they're here. I mean, you could feel the buildup. And the Niners felt that they were building up to something too. And Niners fans, you know, if you're a 45-year-old Niners fan, you've had plenty of enjoyment in your life. But the past couple years had been rough pre-Call Shanahan. You had two coaches that came and went in one season. People were questioning ownership.
Starting point is 00:44:56 People were questioning everything the organization was about. You get to this point. It's 2010 with 15 minutes to go. And an hour later, you're questioning your reality and what's next and if you'll ever get back. I just think, like, because we live in an era to your point where the off-season is going to, like, the last game we saw is going to generate hundreds of hours of questions and conversation,
Starting point is 00:45:15 Jimmy G is suddenly someone who went from potential darling of the countryside to being now picked apart between now and next September or now until he wins a Super Bowl. And a shout out to the Niners organizationally because who got killed worse than the York family and that whole organization during the fiasco that was the Jim Tom Sulla, Chip Kelly, run that they did. And they were even worse the decade before.
Starting point is 00:45:44 They were the worst. team in the NFL and the mid-Ox? So they have built a really strong nucleus and they have the right head coach and yes I think we're all in agreement. They have the right quarterback that can take them to the promised land. But like we said early in the week, the future
Starting point is 00:45:59 promises nothing. And I saw Jed York as walking through the catacombs of the former, the erstwhile Joe Robbie Stadium. It's always how I see it. They can completely gutting and renovate the place and change the capacity from like 80 to 62,000. Intimate stadium here. I was
Starting point is 00:46:15 here for the last one and it it doesn't even feel remotely like I love this place. It's a totally new awesome stadium. It's really great. But Jed York obviously super downtrodden. Nothing will top the catacomb. Am I using the right word? Yeah. I mean that's like a layer and tunnels underneath the air. The catacomb
Starting point is 00:46:32 walking in front of Kyle Shannon was in that locker room too but Arthur Blank coming out of the locker room and his what I assumed to be his grandson falling into his arm sobbing. Nothing will beat the sadness of that. But Jed York walking away, again, just a reminder of all the buildup to this moment. And to come out of this game empty handed, it's just such a tough pill organizationally
Starting point is 00:46:54 to swallow. You have a knack for running into losing owners because we also sell Arthur Blank with, I believe, a grandchild or a child of some sorts, crying in his arms after the Falcons tumbled against the Patriots. Isn't that what I just said? Oh, well, it's late. It's been a long week. See how it feels when I repeat something you just told the listener? But that's even by like the standards of our podcast. It was like 15 seconds, yeah. It was pretty good. Like I was looking at you.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I said that to you and then you said the same thing right back to my eyes. I agree, Mark, that it was a point that needed to be amplified. Thank you. I needed to mention it again from my perspective. Yeah, because if you're a 49ers fan and they have great fans, there's every reason to believe they're going to be good. But they're also in a division with Russell Wilson with last year's NFC championship, champion, the Rams. and Kyler Murray. To me, that's, you know, going into next year,
Starting point is 00:47:45 probably the best division in football. And then you've got to start all over and try to get the buy and hope you get, you know, breaks like they got this year. And I think Chiefs fans know that well, like how many breaks you need. Because they've been in the playoffs a lot. They were certainly close a year ago.
Starting point is 00:47:58 You know, Andy Reid's been in the playoffs every year since he's been there. And this is the year it kind of, you know, finally came together. And you could just feel the enjoyment from early on, like them, like, really loud. This one did break through the plexiglass, you know, singing
Starting point is 00:48:15 fight for your right to party, like the entire stadium. I mean, you know, singing home of the chiefs at the end of the anthem. I mean, there were moments here where it felt much more like a home atmosphere than most Super Bowls do. Like, usually the entire stadium is not
Starting point is 00:48:31 rocking to like their own pet song, Fight for Your Right to Party. Like, I don't remember much of that at Super Bowls. How many middle-aged white sports writers in that in that booth are tapping their feet to the Beastie Boys. I think no wild in there.
Starting point is 00:48:45 No one was tapping their feet to anything in that room. No one looked up from their computer. Not once. Let's do a little winners and losers before we get out of here. How about winner? Ryan Bartlett. Yeah, buddy.
Starting point is 00:48:59 The producer at NFL media, he's helped us out producing our video shows over the years. He's produced damage. He's done it all. He came down. with a ticket, right? So he's just in the crowd as a fan.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Did any of you run into him? I never actually saw him today. Ryan Bartlett, uh, Ryan Bartle again, who we talked about. Who had a big weekend. It wasn't just Sunday. He was keeping different hours than I was. He made sure he enjoyed this weekend. After, uh, if you're listening to the podcast, after the AFC championship win,
Starting point is 00:49:28 Bartlett, who is as diehard as they come, uh, was supposed to be back at studio. Ricky, something about ingest. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, he would have been in, he would have been back in Culver City, uh, taking ingest for this podcast. But there is some, the help that he got. He got a ticket to the game.
Starting point is 00:49:47 And he had a friend here with him. And I did bump into Bartlett about a half hour before kickoff. He was feeling no pain and very excited. And we're all very happy for him because I know Ryan, you know, it's been not the easiest year for him. So this is such a nice moment for him. And I'm really happy for him because he's one of the good dudes at our company.
Starting point is 00:50:07 So he's a big winner. Big winner. I've got Miami, not just as a Super Bowl city, which it's already my favorite one, but just as a fantastic city, period. One of the most impressive cities ever seen. That's a nice job by Miami, Mikey. It looks to me like a future, the future Port City Mega Metropolis that maybe an ancient mariner saw in his wildest, like, Caribbean fever dreams. You got sun-dappled skyscrapers dancing with, like, collatic.
Starting point is 00:50:39 kaleidoscope skies, and it's just a beautiful place to be in. I loved it as a city. People, it felt like a different country to me. It's got a culture its own, which is awesome. Yeah, it's the first superboy I've been at where I thought, okay, the people are exotic, the languages are exotic, the food is exotic. It feels like I'm in some Caribbean major city and not in the United States, and I loved every minute of. I think it's similar to my other favorite Super Bowl city in that way,
Starting point is 00:51:09 New Orleans, where it does feel like you could be nowhere else but New Orleans when you're there, and it's similar to here. It also makes you feel very inferior or, you know, just alert to your lack of body strength. Makes you feel. Yes. All of you. No, I feel fine about my body. No one's leaving Miami and feeling great about their body.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Oh, please. I'm insecure. Everyone's insecure about this. I'm not really even insecure. Who cares? This covers my basis. Everyone's body in this city is a bang in 10. We all joked about it.
Starting point is 00:51:44 No, it was absurd. It's an absurd city of beautiful people and I hate it. What was that, Mark? A winner, Mark, you got a winner? Well, I have a loser because, I mean, within the game, we've been through a lot of these characters from tonight. But the loser is the American football conference and specifically the AFC West.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And everyone that at this point, this reminds me of when Aaron Rogers and the Packers won a decade ago to kick off. the 2010s because we came off of that game thinking the sky's the limit. Aaron Rogers probably is a disappointment if he doesn't go and win three or four more of these with what's around him at this time. This was a lesser game by Patrick Mahomes and it's imagine what happens if they get him clicked in an offense just like this a year from now where you don't get the crazy uncharacteristic turnovers and you just get him playing at high throttle full fever dream
Starting point is 00:52:36 status. The chiefs are unstoppable. You know, unless they're ripped apart by free agency. Back to week five or six or whenever it happened. And Patrick Mahomes' knee is physically ripped out of place. And again, sports, dude, they're weird. If that goes maybe six inches further or it just bends a certain way in the other direction, he's on an operating table, seasons over, and the title drought is 51 or 52 years.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I mean, they caught a huge break by that injury not being season ending because at that moment it felt like it was, all over. And yes, if you're in the AFC West, you're nervous that this kid who's 24 years old now has a league MVP, a Super Bowl title, two division titles, and a Super Bowl MVP under his belt. And he's just getting warmed up. You're worried that this is the new Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Your only hope is that he's better than that. Right. Your only hope is that he's apathetic or bored a year from now decides I've done everything. He now, I mean, with with the title, he mean, he's got to start that only, like we said, Ed Marino and Warner, you know, have had really Warner in terms of winning the Super Bowl and getting an MVP. It's a little scary.
Starting point is 00:53:46 How about a winner, Brett Veach? Remember our old buddy, Brett Veach? All right, you tell me why. I want to know. Because for all of the stories that came out of the Chiefs trading up from, I just want to hear Greg talk like Brett Beech again, a huge trade up from like 26 to 10, and the inspiration behind it is Brett Veach falls in love from a scouting perspective, as much as a scout can fall in love with a quarterback and basically gets the entire organization to watch
Starting point is 00:54:13 Patrick Mahomes with Brett Beech's eyes. And that's why he's in Kansas. John Lando, a famous rock critic and producer, has an all-time like rock history famous line. I've looked into the future. I've seen the future of rock and roll and it's Bruce Springsteen in 1975. Beach, and I learned this West from your piece, which was great. And don't stop writing. Keep writing less.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Thank you. Because you're awesome at it. Sorry. But he saw it. He saw up for anybody else. Before he even took a meaningful snap, he was saying this guy's the best quarterback in the league. So that's a big shout-outs of each.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Yes. Had a bold, you know, move to bring in Frank Clark and get rid of D. Ford, which certainly I think tonight was a night where D. Ford got dominated pretty well by Mitchell Schwartz. Clark had a good night. Just came within a whisker of a couple turnovers himself, D. Ford.
Starting point is 00:55:04 He almost pounced on one and forced another. I'm going to give a winner just for guys making some money. Chris Jones and Kendall Fuller are both free agents this offseason. Money watch. And they both, well, I have them. We have them in the rankings. Chris Jones is, you know, doing a defensive version of Joe Flacko,
Starting point is 00:55:25 where you have a monster playoff run right before you hit free agency. He was going to make a lot of money. Anyways, Kendall Fuller made, the interception Kendall Fuller made was maybe the best play anyone made all night. The game was kind of over at that point, but that was an incredible play, and he made another huge pass breakup where he read the play before anyone else in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He's been a really good player for a while, and those two guys, I think, will probably get paid off of this. Because Brett Veach, who's done some good work, they have a lot of work to do. They have a ton of defensive players hit for free agency and not a lot of cap room. A winner and a loser, Greg Rosenthal.
Starting point is 00:56:02 No. Because, you know why? because Greg picked the 49ers to win on our podcast and picked the Chiefs to win on our website. Well, the website wouldn't was funny. That's a bad job by you. I picked the 49ers. It's actually a great job.
Starting point is 00:56:16 No, I sent that in, yeah, that's the Mark move. I sent that in last week and forgot about it, unfortunately. So that my pick was the 49ers, of which I was wrong. A winner, another winner, I would say our old friend Kevin Harlan, A friend of the podcast, the great announcer who, this kind of, we didn't mention this, but he won some type of award for greatest announcer in the world or something a couple of weeks ago. And I happened to hear his call of the Damian Williams clinching touchdown run. Let's listen in, Ricky.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Under-senter Mahomes, second down six. Hand-off to Williams got a block from the fullback. He's at the 35, the 30, breaks a tackle down the sideline 20, casing him down the sideline, the 10, the five, touchdown. That's it. That's it. A 30-yard touchdown run by Damian Williams. One 12 to go, three touchdowns in the last five minutes of this game, and the Chiefs lead by 10, 30 to 20.
Starting point is 00:57:15 It was a bigger pro than Kevin Harlan. No, I'm at the point where I'd like to hear a two or three-minute highlight reel, and I'm not sure you could even get to that length of plays where he flubs the call because it doesn't seem to ever happen. I got a winner. Yeah. A guy who nearly threw his football career away, Honey Badger, at LSU in college. He's the story.
Starting point is 00:57:38 You can author your own life story. He could have gone the other way. And he said, no, I want to be committed to football. Bruce Ariens drafts him in the third round. He plays at an all-pro level. As soon as he reaches the all-pro level, tears his ACL. Comes back, takes him a year or two, finally returns to the all-pro level, tears his ACL again. goes to Houston and then
Starting point is 00:57:59 finds a chief's team where he says I'm going to go there because the priority is winning the Super Bowl came there to win the Super Bowl the minute he walked in the door Spag said the entire culture changed Tyron Matthew was the agent of that change I saw Spaggs by the way on the field
Starting point is 00:58:15 about 20 minutes after it ended the Fox set up the Fox TV set up Michael Strayhan on the dais and Spaggs goes up to Strayhan gets his attention and they share a big hug, because Strahan, of course, was the pass rusher on that first title. So Spags is not a guy that's probably going to get another look as a head coach,
Starting point is 00:58:37 but this was a big win for him. Another big win, mixers. You know, Zusser through a mixer that was lit in room 1417. Streets are talking. And Ricky, your takeaway. We got all the cousins. We got the family members. We got the brothers.
Starting point is 00:58:56 We got the sisters. We've got the wives, we've got the friends. And I feel like the mixer, it was pretty lit. Yeah, I mean, I know you were a little nervous that people weren't showing up. I was a little late. I couldn't stop staring at the door. You're waiting for me. Really?
Starting point is 00:59:08 My cousins, Mike and Matt were like, Dan, you sure they're coming? They're like, they'll be here. They'll be here. They said they'd be here. Yeah. And sure enough, we got a nice crowd, even handsome Hank. Oh, it was such a good time. International showed up.
Starting point is 00:59:21 It feels like a good tradition. It is. I feel like mixers next year we'll do it in March. You went all out, Dan. You had ice filled in the sink with the booze and the Perrier. Nice presentation. That's a nice job, Danny. It's a good job by you.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Yeah, part of it is hopefully, you know, another winner would be whoever booked us our hotel rooms because, you know, we, those are some nice rooms. Yeah, I mean, that room was fitting for a party. I got, I got some winners for you. How about Nick Shook and Kevin Patra? They write for a little site called Around the NFL. Do you remember this thing? Vaguely. We used to write for it.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And they've been pounded out great work all week. They really have been working hard and putting out good stuff. Like, Shook's working so hard. I haven't actually even seen Shook all week. Which is that. I think, like, working less would make you a true winner. It sounds like they're just taking the role of, like, grunts and workhorses at this point. You're calling the winners.
Starting point is 01:00:14 But they're putting out quality work Kevin was at the mixer. And, you know, who's better than Kevin? I think, you know, he'll always be in my heart for one of the great moments in around. the NFL history, which was on a Super Bowl recap show. It was a sad moment, but it was kind of a resolved moment. They answered all the questions without being d-diff. Nobody asked me how big my
Starting point is 01:00:38 p.m. That was a magical moment from Kevin Padger back at our Super Bowl in Houston, Texas. It has lived on in our memories. And the memories have even changed from the reality. Our producer, Mark Brady, just took a header off the third level. of Hard Rock Stadium.
Starting point is 01:00:58 He can't hear what was playing. He was just looking at you guys like, you're crazy. Greg, I know you're not going to toot your own horn, but you're a winner. You get to walk into a press box and see people like Tyler Dragon, who you hired, now a beat writer. And Gilbert Manzano, another guy you hired as a beat writer. And Nick Shook, you hired all these people.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Good for you. Good job by you, Greg. This is getting a little extemporaneous. All right, before we get out of here, let's go through the sandwich props, because daddy needed a win. Daddy got his win. Super Bowl 54 MVP is Patrick Mahomes. I got three sandwiches there,
Starting point is 01:01:34 which salvaged my season because in addition to getting the three there, I got three Ws off you guys. So that's a six and oh to save my season. Greg. A big spot. Super Bowl 54, Debo Samuel will have more receiving yards than Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey. Mark, you got the stats in front of you.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Was that correct? I don't believe it was close. It was not close, but he had a good game. If I had said rushing yards, for a while, it was fun. But, yeah, the Tyree killed me in the end. 94 total yards. Love that guy. Mark, you had a 15-minute stoppage of play, non-injury-related.
Starting point is 01:02:13 It just didn't come, it didn't land this year. Somehow it did not occur. It didn't come home, this one. And, Wes, you had George Kittle and Travis Kelsey, both top 116 receiving yards, which I believe is the Super Bowl tight-end record. This was not a big game for either player, although Kelsey had a huge touchdown in the fourth quarter. I think Kyle Janahan lost George Kittle in his couch cushions or something.
Starting point is 01:02:32 What happened to that guy? The last three weeks. But to correctly, PR, go get my lunch. Let's just look at the overall standings for this entire campaign we've been through. Coming into fourth place, Dan, with 12 and 15. In a big spot, six and out today, though. Yes, no, you did a lot to get into fourth place at a four. Greg, 13 and 13 in the third spot.
Starting point is 01:02:53 West, very nice, 16 and 15 in spot number two. Oh, and then someone named Mark, who was at 16 and 14 at top the heap. You got one prediction. You got one prediction right out of eight. Well, somehow you're... Who cares how I do it? Somehow you're not leading. I mean, if we're going to go like...
Starting point is 01:03:11 Somehow I am leading. To talk the whole season, we could do overall standings, which you are buried in last place. I know, but... And I still have a nice lead. It's ridiculous how long we've been doing this. the game until season four. My overall record is 166 and 149. That's how many times
Starting point is 01:03:28 we've played. Can you possibly not to your own horn for three minutes in a row? This entire show is about Greg Tuding, Greg. We just said you doing it. Mark, our friends at Little Caesars, who I don't care about any other pizza operation. If you've ever heard me talk about another pizza
Starting point is 01:03:44 operation, they're terrible. The only one that matters is Little Caesars. And I'm going to ask you, as a real corporate man, Who delivered Little Caesar-style Super Bowl 54? Andy Reid. He sure did. He got the W.
Starting point is 01:04:02 From wire to wire. What's he eating? What's he eating? What's he eating multiple Little Caesar's pizzas along with other trinkets and food items? He did said he was going to have some cheeseburgers, but with extra cheese. How about Little Cesar's with some extra cheese? Make it easy.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Andy, have fun, but let's not get reckless here. All right. Watch the dairy. Guess what, guys? We did it. It's another season. Another season. Our seventh together, I believe.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Yes, sir. Started this podcast in July of 2013. And here we are now in February of 2020. Almost ended after that, that Patrick comment. Well, I've been amazing. Yeah. Oh, that one, yes. But then amplifying it years later, that could bang us in a big spot.
Starting point is 01:04:47 But it was another great season. And as everyone knows, if you're fans, of the show, we will not let up because the season's over. Because as much as it pains, Mr. Sessler, we now have the Combine coming up. We have free agency. We got the draft. So the season, the NFL calendar, the owner's meetings moves on and we'll be tracking all of that as we do with multiple shows every week.
Starting point is 01:05:14 So make sure you continue to tune in. And also everyone that was at our live show at the Miami Improv on Thursday night, was an excellent time. We had a great time. We got to talk to a bunch of fans after the show and we had a grand time doing that. That's a nice little Super Bowl tradition now. So it was a very fun and successful season for the podcast. We have more people listening to us than ever before. And we are all very blessed and humbled, quite frankly. Greg, not so much, but the other three humbled to be in this position. A great lively crowd at the live show. They were into it from the from the minute we started and carried it all the way through all right that's it and my cousin mike
Starting point is 01:05:56 want to let you know that i love you and i'm thinking of you buddy all right let's head back let's get on an airplane and head back to california this is dan hansis signing off from hard rock stadium for the quiet storm the mailman the old boss rick hollywood on the boards i'm giving you my jacket rickie you're going to get warm in a second gentlemen another season in the book Till Thursday. I'm going to be. I'm going to be able to be. Hey,
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