NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Super Bowl LIX Recap with A.J. Brown, Cooper DeJean, Brandon Graham and Howie Roseman

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

NFL Daily's Gregg Rosenthal, Nick Shook and Jourdan Rodrigue of the Athletic deliver a truly one-of-a-kind Super Bowl LIX postgame show from the Caesars Superdome in New Orleans. The trio discusses the implications of the Philadelphia Eagles triumphing over the 2x reigning champion Kansas City Chiefs, with Super Bowl MVP Jalen Hurts leading the way. In this episode, Gregg and Jourdan conduct on-field interviews with A.J. Brown, Cooper DeJean, Brandon Graham and Howie Roseman. The crew also debates Patrick Mahomes' legacy and the uncertain future of Travis Kelce. All of this and more on the season finale of NFL Daily!NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Slim Reaper. It's over. The Philadelphia Eagles have won Super Bowl 59. They have beaten the Kansas City Chiefs 40 to 22. It's their second Super Bowl win in seven years. What a game. What a season. What a team.

The greatest Eagles team in modern history. Eagles fans sacred and rejoiced. Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're celebrating one of the best teams I've ever seen. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm in a, I don't know what this is. A carrier in the parking lot of Super Bowl 59. And yes, that was Merrill Reese making the calls during. a 40 to 22 victory over the Chiefs that wasn't nearly as close as the final score indicated.

Alongside me, Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic, just walking through the door as I'm doing the intro is the man, Nick Shook, who is joining as well. He is about the size of our office today. Yes, I am loving where we are. We're in a trailer, that's the word for it. We're actually going to be picked up, lifted, and placed gently onto Shadcom. yet we just came we just came from the field where we spoke with a j brown we spoke with howie roseman we spoke with cooper de jean that's all going to be part of this super bowl recap show that i'm so excited to get into but i want to start with you jordan and think big picture about this

Eagles team that didn't have to worry about one score games against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs because they beat him down. It was 34 to nothing entering the fourth quarter. Where do you even start with this? This defense is one of the most fun defenses I have ever watched in my entire life. Yes, I know I've been honking and honking about Vic MFing Fangio and this group of young and old combined, this front that is so ferocious, these defensive backs and these linebackers that just swarm to the ball. It was absolutely a perfect plan executed perfectly and so dominantly that at some point, Greg, I'm sitting there, you're on the call in the UK, and I'm sitting there looking around at Eric,

the producer who's just done an awesome job with us all week, sitting behind the proverbial glass right now. I look over at Eric and I'm like, the chiefs have 23 freaking net yards right now. What the hell? Like this, it was absolutely a beautiful, like I say, I'll say it, exquisite defensive performance. I had so much fun watching this game, even though it was a blowout. We went into halftime and it was 24-0. And at that point, I thought, the Eagles offense playing okay.

Like, I would say they would look at it, like they would have some things to work on, but they did some good things well. It was like a B-minus, B first half. Saquan merely wasn't getting anything done. Jalen Hertz through a panicked interception. They took advantage of a couple turnovers, but they went into halftime, probably thinking we have some things to work on.

And they were up 24 points in the Super Bowl against Patrick Mahomes. This is the most, until those garbage time touchdowns, this would have been by far the biggest loss of Patrick Mahomes' career in any game, regular season, or playoffs by scoring. And still at 18 points, it was like second place all time. They were up 34 to nothing, as they said, because Nick, it was as dominant a first half of defensive football between the pass rush and the coverage and all the groups working as one and just the ferocity that I've ever seen

and you can't tell me that blowouts can't be entertaining. I know it's not as great as like the Chiefs Eagles from two years ago, but you can't tell me that those first 30 minutes of football especially where some of the most 30 exhilarating minutes have ever seen in this. Super Bowl because it was just pure dominance, and it was shock, at least for me, that the Chiefs would get beat down. Yeah, I mean, if you appreciate defense, then you love this game. And everybody should appreciate defense, by the way.

Hell yeah. Because this is the type of performance that's going to live on for years because of how dominant they were. I keep going back to that one stat, 38.1% pressure rate on Patrick Mahomes. Zero blitzes, the entire game. That's how good this defense was with their front four. How crazy is that? But really, the tone was set on the second play of the game.

They get the first down with a very well-designed little fake. orbit motion out there he hits juju over there for a gain of 11 next play worthy in the flat cooper dejean tracks him down and i'm like they're flying around the ball and then the pressure starts to get after him and you realize they're only doing this before everybody else is in coverage and then there became a point where i looked at my homes and i see him throw this interception to jeanne that ends up being returned for a touchdown and i go back and watch look at the dots and i'm like they're just in quarter shells like the whole game we're just in quarter shells and he has no way to solve any of this yeah they played vangio's famous

and comes alive with players of this caliber, but famous umbrella defense, right? And I love that play by Cooper DeGine because that was the moment where the chiefs, I think, pooped their pants a little bit. And the reason why I say that is because their plan clearly was to do the exact thing that you do, if you want to beat this defense,

if you want to score on this defense, which is pick and pick and pick and pick away from it. And if you do that against the Eagles, the Eagles will ask their players, to come down and match tighter out of that zone shell that they play and to come down and tackle hard in the flat and fly to the ball and do not let anyone get behind you whether it is an explosive passing play or it is a catch and run that breaks into the third level.

That is exactly the tone that Cooper DeGine set and every single player along that defensive front in the middle and in the back followed suit and absolutely played like they were just flying to the ball every single snap everybody gets a moment that that was the theme of this game avante maddox he got a moment joshua a couple sacks he got more than one moment jellix hunt had a big first half in this game he had a moment and watching it in person we're so lucky to be able to do so we had nice seats there in the yeah right right at the 50 yard man i kept waving to nick we were all in the 50ish and air five we kept airfiving from a distance yeah and seeing how they passed off

the receivers. It's such a subtle thing that I don't understand all the intricacies of, but you know it when you see it. And there were so many times in that game that Mahomes actually had a lot of time. The average time to sack wasn't that low. It was actually quite high. And it felt like they were getting quick pressure and they were winning. But it wasn't a lot of like quick, like easy wins where they don't get touched. A couple of those happened. And it happened as the game wore on. But he's just holding and he's waiting. And then, there aren't guys open. And the couple times they were and on the interceptions, Patrick Mahomes did something. I've almost never seen him do at the NFL level. Not like he's a perfect person or a

perfect football player. Like he panicked. He did not play well in this game. He knew his guys were losing up front. And it reminded me of a couple moments during the regular season where he lost a lot of faith, not only in his receivers, but in his offensive line. Remind me a little bit of that Brown's game, which was one of the worst Patrick Mahomes game. I've ever seen. And it was just pure domination against the team that was on the precipice of history. And instead, we're going to be remembering this Eagles defense and really, really the whole team, because you have to give the offense a lot of credit, too.

As one of the best teams I've ever seen, I know they have three losses in the end, but we can go through each one of those losses other than that Bucks game. Like, this was a wagon. And I feel good that NFL daily picked them to win across the first. There we all did it. And it was interesting to set the scene for the listener because some of this probably wasn't as clear on the broadcast as it was in the stand. You knew with like an hour and a half, if not more, before kickoff that this was an Eagles crowd all the way through.

And I liked this Super Bowl because I really liked how invested the fans were in it. There was a fan split. It wasn't like sort of, hey, we're going to go because we have corporate seats and, you know, there's teams playing. This was super passionate, loud. And I think that this was one of the most, actually, most hostile environments the Chiefs have played in this year. Eric and I, Eric's a Bills fan. We were talking about maybe the Bills game on the road, maybe Baltimore. This is, this was so hostile.

They were booing the Chief's cheerleaders during the two-minute break and cheering for the Eagles cheer. I mean, it was merciless. Anybody could get it. Much like the defense on the field, anybody could get it. And they did. It reminded me so much of the first. Eagles title, which I would say until this point was the most one-sided crowd I'd ever been at for a Super Bowl, that they were ravenous.

It was kind of a similar spot where the team fans, the Patriots, at that point, were a little spoiled, don't show up as much. I mean, we did not see a lot of Chiefs fans around, although they were in the state, and we did not see them around the city, and that the Eagles were ravenous, and it created an atmosphere that was absolutely awesome. We got cranked up before the game with all the New Orleans. I was like, I almost didn't. I almost didn't need a game after that.

We'll get into all of that parts of the game. But the way that they came out, energy-wise, to me was, it's like hard to define. But you mentioned that pressure rate. It was over 50% up until the third quarter when they start tacking on. Again, two touchdowns in the last three minutes makes it look a lot closer than it really was. But just a ridiculous performance from every level of a defense where you really couldn't find any weaknesses. Yeah, I was going to insert it in what we learned. And I just saw it drop late.

the moments, but I was like, hey, this was the highest pressure rate since that Cleveland game, and it looked like it because he just had no time to throw. I also thought that, you know, talking about energy and the tone and everything there, when there was a pass interference called offensive pass interference on AJ Brown, Nick Siriani lost his mind on the sideline. And then as soon as they get a stop after that, he loses his mind again. They end up in the end zone, they're just showing shots of them. I'm watching him run up and down the sideline.

He's got the jaw, you know, all the way open, just bellowing into the, you know, the air, not this guy, because it's an indoor stadium. And it was just, it was a sight to see. You could tell they came there on a mission and they did not want to repeat what happened two years ago. What I loved about the way that they set that tone defensively with their pressure. We talked about it. They rushed only for all game. They had, if they, I mean, I haven't checked the final number, but through most of the game,

they had not sent one blitz. Although they confused me, I have to admit on the call, I'm learning, you know, how to do a call. It was on talk sport. It was beautiful. And I thought more than once that they did blitz, but not. No, it's Zach Bonn, and it's the, it's the illusion of, yeah, those Sims and those creepers that actually aren't. And it's just, it's fascinating because he does that. He wants to drop everybody and get home with four.

And what I really liked that they did was they didn't immediately come out and try to bring Patrick Mahomes to the ground. Because what they wanted to do was assert with their back end as well as their front. And when you are basically getting pressure on the quarterback on that initial wave, that initial pass rush, you're also trusting. your defensive backs. You want them to come down, like, crash into that airspace and cover as sticky as possible. And they can't really do that if they're working, if they're worried about the quarterback breaking contain, extending a play out of structure, and then hitting a throw down field. What they was very clear that they were actually trying to do is just disrupt him. They weren't trying to bring them to the ground every single time. They weren't trying to be outside

themselves and individually get their stats up and make the plays. That came as the game continued, but it was so interesting because they were clearly trying to balance that Russian coverage to disrupt Mahomes enough, less so just take him totally out, you know, and take him totally to the ground so that those DBs could come down and crash versus floating back a little bit to make sure that the ball didn't eventually end up behind them. I mean, they fried his brain, plain and simple. By the second quarter, he was skittish, he was panicked, he didn't trust his offensive line. But another moment I think exemplifies exactly what you were saying.

Third down on that same opening series they had offensively, Cooper they run Cover 1 And they put Cooper DeGine on the inside on Kelsey They're in a little bit of a stack formation here And I'm thinking all right Kelsey's going to be open over the middle That's where he's going to look That's immediately gone off the pre-snap

But what they also do is in cover 1 They bring down Reed Blankenship And he takes it with the middle field That maybe Mahomes could throw to And then once that was gone He had nowhere to go And then Jalen Carter's after him And the rush is there

And he's spinning around And he's throwing a prayer That almost gets intercepted And it was in that moment right there I was like oh This defense showed up I think mentioning Kelsey Is spot on there

because he had a nightmare game in the first half of this game alone they're not on the same page mahomes throws it behind him helps the end the drive another one where a ball kind of goes near his feet i don't know if you call it a drop or not but mohomes is a little skittish Travis kelsey also runs into kareem hunt and helps to ruin a second down run and then there was one play where Kelsey was clearly the primary receiver he's covered pretty quickly it looks like it's man i don't know if like they confused them. It's actually zoned, but they passed them off really well.

Mahomes at the beginning of the play looks at Kelsey, and at the end of the play looks at Kelsey, and neither time he's open. And you saw this kind of ghostly look on Travis Kelsey's face on the broadcast that we're watching in a green room in the fourth quarter. We go down to get into position, and during that fourth quarter, Marshawn Lynch is down there.

And Marshawn Lynch is just, I forget what he said exactly. Do you remember what it was? I believe it was something to the effect of like, oh, they whoop in their ass. And then he essentially says, this is just like our Super Bowl. And that's the moment.

And that's the game that this reminds me of more than anything. Let's back it up to that first quarter that you mentioned. So the chiefs get one first down the first time. It ends up being a first down that they sit on for basically the rest of the first half. Their first 13 passing plays, they had 11 yards. Their first 17 plays overall, they had 27 yards. As you guys mentioned, the Eagles get it back. They're moving the ball.

The drive ends on that path interference. The next drive that the Eagles have the ball, they hit a play. It's Jalen Hertz for the second time in the game, trusting what he sees, trusting himself. I love that throw he made to A.J. Brown on the fourth down, even though the penalty happened. It was beautiful. He saw the one-on-one. He saw the mismatch. A.J. Brown, even on Trent McDuffie, is a mismatch.

And he just threw it. He was decisive. A decisive Jalen Hertz is a great Jailen Hertz. And he was just as decisive on his throw to Jahan Dotson. Hertz in the gun. This time, it's going to be second and 11 from the 28-yard line. Hertz calling for it. Three receivers right.

One receiver left is A. A.J. Brown. Barclay stays in. Picks up. A big blitz pick up. Ball goes down the right. On the side. Into the arms of Jahon Dodson.

And that will be an Eagles touchdown. Huge play down that right-hand side to the former Washington receiver. Sacon Barcliffe, picking up the blitz, left in man coverage down the field. Dotson just beat his man on the outside and a simple throw to open the scoring. First big blitz, that Spagnolo,

Seng, Sequin is ready for it. Jailen Hertz is ready for it. And how about Jahan Dotson, one-on-one coverage? We haven't seen him make a big play in months. And he gets the first touchdown for the Super Bowl. He was saving it for you, Greg. That's our Greg. That was Will Gavin and Jeff Reinbold and myself on Talk Sports.

And great touchdown call by Will Gavin. Unfortunately, it wasn't a touchdown. I just love that moment. I love that moment for you, though. I also, there's another layer to this that I love, Greg. And it's you were right. because you said if Jalen Hurt starts to trust what he sees on the perimeter, especially when they start to send pressure,

and he just lets it rip down either sideline. Because he went back to A.J. Brown going the other direction on a similar play that was completed way later in the game, but he kept trusting his receivers. And that is something that on the converse, the chiefs could not do. They also could get whatever they wanted outside the numbers. That was clear very quickly.

And so when that specific play happened, I go back and watch the dots again. Like, why would you press him with inside leverage and let him get free? Defender's feet freeze. Greg ends up with a great touchdown call, even if it wasn't a touchdown. Everybody wins. That is the only talk sport call we're going to hear tonight. We're going to hear from the home broadcasters,

but that was really fun to do the first half of that game with talk sport. And you get so locked in on like a play-to-play basis when you're doing that. And that's why at the time when Jalen Hertz throws the interception where he panics a little bit, I guess you could say he was trusting his receiver in that moment, but that was a blitz that from Nick Bolton, where he did win right away over Cam Juergens, immediate pressure. And Hertz just kind of throws it blind, hoping,

I think that was Devontz Smith, that was the intended receiver there. Brown was just going to make a play there. And that was a moment where it's only 7-0 at that point. They end up even, you know, settling for a field goal on another good drive where they decide not to go for it on fourth down, which I thought was a good decision at the time.

But when Hertz throws that year, because we're so used to seeing the Chiefs over the years, you're like, oh, they're not, they're not taking advantage enough. Yeah. And all I can think about as we're kind of going through these plays is the game plan was to make Jalen Hertz beat you for the second straight time in the Super Bowl. And Steve Spagnola got a lot of love over the last couple of weeks, and he deserved it. But they did stop Saquan Barkley, 25 carries 57 yards on the ground, 2.3 yards per carry. and Jalen freaking hurt Super Bowl MVP played outstanding for a second straight Super Bowl, a second straight game in these playoffs. This man did not make QB Island, but he's on top of the NFL right now.

He has his own, I think, personal, like, status because of how he plays in these Super Bowls. I mean, this is twice now that he has just played at an absolutely outstanding level. to the point where I even have it written in my notes, like I marked down obviously the interception, but I put in parentheses next to it, interception is kind of a wash because he was seeing the game really well. He was picking up yards on the ground.

He was running up the middle. He wasn't just using the flats and the outside runs to pick up those conversions. He was running up the middle. They ran a couple of draws for him. They tried to disguise a couple of things using the pistol formation, which I love to see. And it was so interesting because he just seemed

quite the contrary to Patrick Mahomes that he, that Jalen Hertz was in total control, that entire game. In this game setting especially. It's funny because if you look at it, at least in the first half, it felt a lot like a 2024 Patrick Mahomes game because he wasn't making mistakes.

He was converting. He was doing what the offense asked him to do and then he opened it up in the second half. He hits the long pass to DeVontas Smith to ice it. He hits passes down the sideline. And that's when you realized, oh, this guy is going to win MVP. and they're cruising to a victory.

I think it speaks to the fact that they're able to tune out the noise. You know, they've gotten plenty of criticism. People have doubted him. Not to go down that line, but they have. People don't get excited about him. And yet he's walking away a champion by commanding this offense on a day when the player that everybody wanted to see, Sequin Barclay, struggled to get going.

Now, the reality is they didn't need to have long drives in this game. But including that interception, they had a nine-drive stretch where they scored. seven times it's like in the super bowl against this chief's defense that that's just outrageous nick you mentioned the devante smith touchdown in the second half the game already felt over but man this this felt kind of like the moment that the entire stadium and the eagles sideline could just start celebrating fiscal formation hurts in the gun trailed by barkley hurts back looking he is going deep and it is caught touchdown the slim reaper

the fun he spent 46 yards the slim reaper and he did the sithe did you see a celebration he did like the the grim reaper side i love that that every single one of these wide receivers like got to have their moment during the game a j brown had that had that touch touchdown in the first half that made it 24-0 after the second Mahomes interception, the great play by Zach Bonn. I mean, there's so many great plays to go through. But that was kind of another moment where it felt like, okay, the score is now catching up with everything we're seeing. I mean, I will even go back even further. Like that sequence, it was three plays, three consecutive plays in, I believe it was the second quarter. It was sack on Patrick Mahom.

for a loss, sack on Patrick Mahomes for a loss, and then Cooper DeGine, obviously at that point picks off Patrick Mahomes and runs it back for a touchdown. At that point, you started to really feel that stadium realize what was about to happen and what this defense was there to do, and I think it made for a great moment, too. Mahomes in the gun on first down, play action, they surround them, they set them, at the 25, they got Josh Swett. Sweenty coming off the edge. Second and 14.

The home's back again. He's looking. They got him again. They've got him for the second great play. And this time it's Jaylon Hunt. And, yeah, that was followed up, as you mentioned, by the Cooper DeGine interception. And it's pretty rare that you're seeing an all-time defense just start to, stamp themselves in real time.

I keep thinking about that. Seahawks went over the Broncos, and there were moments in that game just like that, and that was the sequence for this team. And Nick, it was so cool. I want to hear more about what you saw from just the different things that they were running with just a simple four-man pressure.

And simple, I say hilariously, it wasn't. But there were certain moments where on Chiefs' possessions, including that one, where three different Eagles players sacked, Patrick Mahomes. Like Greg said at the top, everybody could get a piece of the action. And there were two separate possessions, and one was a split sack in the second quarter. But when Patrick Mahomes was sacked multiple times in a possession, it was always different players who were doing it. Milton Williams. Yes. Some might say the Nick Shook of the Philadelphia

Eagles was getting multiple sacks and had a great game today. Yeah. The sweat sack specifically was a tight end slip where Kelsey was trying to get out for a quick screen and the ball never got there because Sweat was in Mahomes' lap before he knew it. The next play, it's just chaos. It's just guys beating the offensive linemen in one-on-ones and swarming on him. And then that's exactly what influences the pick. And that sequence right there is what I think, like you said, told everybody, oh, we're in for something that we haven't seen in a long time.

The pick six itself was a product of, again, Mahomes, being uncomfortable. He'd just been sacked twice. He rolls out to the right. He sees a tiny window where I think it was D'Andre Hopkins. He tried to throw it to it. It was never there. It gets picked off. And as soon as Dijin gets into the end zone, I just sat back and went.

wow like my mouth was just a gape wow like this is going to go this way like this is actually happening because until that three play sequence we're talking about the eagles were up 10 nothing and they were dominating that game they hit the jake elli field goal with about eight and a half minutes to go in the second quarter seven minutes later they're up 24 to nothing you know two minutes later they they have that touchdown and that a j brown play to me was so cool it it it was schemed up to the point that like of course who was it was it bolton trailing after him yep ton of traffic has absolutely no chance to make that but to me it was the the culmination of one of the all-time great receivers in that i've covered it over the last 20 years a guy that i think will be in

the hall of fame someday and a guy that changed this organization when they somehow got him from Tennessee. We had a chance to talk with A.J. Brown on the field afterwards. Let's listen to Jordan and myself with A.J. Here with A.J. Brown, you arrived in Philadelphia, helped change this organization. You've won all pros. You've done everything individually. Talk about your journey to get to this moment as a Super Bowl champ. I'll be here all day if I talk about my journey you know we got it yeah yeah I mean it's truly a blessing a lot of hard work a lot of hard work a lot of long nights early mornings

man a lot of sacrifices and only for this moment right here and it's so surreal AJ, your face is saying one million words right now. Can you just describe everything you're feeling for us? And, I mean, it's just crossing over your face and flashes and waves. It's amazing to watch. I'm excited. I love doing these interviews, but I really want to go celebrate. We love that for you.

With my teammates, I'm in a rest of to go celebrate with them in the locker room. Go do it. Go do it. We're so happy for you. Congrats. Yeah, AKA when me and AJ Brown almost cried together on the field because when people tear up, I also tear up. So he was extremely emotional.

Go watch this on video, on YouTube, because you can see our camera guy, Jay. He did an amazing job following us as we kind of moved around. Players were coming in and out. And it was so emotional. A million different thoughts flashed across his face as he was talking to us.

And I loved that moment with him because he was like, I got to go cry with my teammates now, basically. Right. That was a great job by our bucking crew, including Matt, Matt Schneider, because A.J. was ready to not be talking, but also was absolutely appreciating this moment. And that's what is so cool about this Super Bowl. We'll hear from Cooper DeGine, him talking about his interception. To him, it's one thing.

Like, he'll look back on this and realize all that he didn't know. But for guys like a Brandon Graham, who's been here a couple times before, and we'll also hear from a guy like A.J. Brown, who's achieved everything you can on an Indian. level. Like, it's such a great story for all these individual players. And yet the Eagles, Nick, are just sort of like this. It's weird that they feel like a super team. Even though I know they weren't favored in this game. Of course, in hindsight, that seems crazy. And once again, I'm thinking about that Seahawks game because they weren't favored in that game either. They were very slight underdogs. I did find the Marshawn Lynch quote. We strive for accuracy here on NFL daily.

Marshawn Lynch said, they're beating the brakes off of them. Just like we did back in that Super Bowl against the Bronx. Yeah. This team, I think, is a perfect example of veteran leadership and young talent drafted strategically to fill needs, coalescing at the perfect time and coming together. And I think that they also had to,

they talked about this all week. We have to, you know, wash the stink of 2023 off of us. They didn't say that. They said they were grateful for going through that, but that's what it felt like from the outside. Everybody, you know, kind of downplays their potential because of what had happened last year. Without paying attention to the fact that since week seven, they've been the best defense in the NFL, in my opinion, in many other opinions.

And I think we all learned, you know, to say, you're going to learn today. Everybody learned today about how good these Eagles are and where they could have said. They have some free agents coming up, but Howie Rosen, he's the best GM in football. Yeah, I'm glad you brought Howie Roseman up because we also had a chance to talk with him, Greg, and we asked him about that exact thing. It's been so cool to watch this team sort of express itself, like, grow up together. Even the old guys coming, like going to meet the young guys as they sort of started hitting this climb in their rookie careers. And I, you know, I was excited that we got to talk to Howie after the game because we asked him exactly that.

How did he build this roster to meet, have these guys all meet each other in this moment at various points of their careers? All right, here with Howie Roseman, the general manager of the two. Super Bowl champions. Howie, you have a job that is always looking ahead. How does it feel in this moment to just enjoy what you've accomplished? Yeah, we have a special group of people. You know, so you celebrate a special group of people. Really proud of them.

Can't wait to celebrate all night with him. Howie, you rebuilt this team so fast to be in contention so quickly. A combination of brilliant youthful players and that energy has been really sad. veterans what was your strategy and how did you connect everybody i think you know obviously we had an opportunity to come here in 2022 to finish and i think uh you know we just one of the big players that we were trying to do offensive defense defense as you want to work guys who are tremendous character and a tremendous talent who are they did an unbelievable job sorry about that who who are the some of the players that that you're most happy for and their stories of you bringing them

to the organization i mean everyone's got a story you know like when we talk about guys overcoming University and, you know, Brandy Graham come back and playing my first traffic 15 years ago and playing in the Super Bowl, two-time world champ, Isaiah Rogers out of football for a year, Sequin, you know, there's so many, I could go on and on. And, you know, our head coach, our head coach is very proud of everyone. Nick Siriani has been an emotional leader in so many ways for this team, but it's a collective role with those assistants. Everyone seems to mesh so well, your hiring strategy and balancing that. Just as important as your roster, no doubt. No doubt, you want to do you go out.

field and I think we have tremendous week. And, you know, we took a picture yesterday. It wasn't just scouts. He was performance, and his trainers, there's equipment, everyone in football off. You got a great deal. Congratulations. Go enjoy it. Thank you, thank you, howie.

Shout out to Howie Roseman, putting me in my place for not having the proper energy, really, to start. That was a good lesson. I'm just watching everyone's on the field. He seems so chill and matter of fact in, like, business-like, that he was absolutely right. Like, you got to crank up, you got to

meet them at their level and just a masterful job by him and everyone that works under him. This is an organization where I do think the credit kind of funnels one way to Howie Roseman, and that's fair. He is really the most important person in the organization, I would say, if you have to pick one outside of out of their quarterback, I guess, because he's the quarterback. But that staff that he has on the pro personnel side, his assistant GM Alic Hallaby, who's been next to him for all of these years and helped build up that team. Like the process that they really had since they took over for Chip Kelly when Howie basically got back in power and how consistent they are.

We were talking about the same exact points when we were recapping their Super Bowl win against the Patriots, which is they're going to build on the lines. They're going to invest draft picks and money and then more money and then more draft picks. And it's going to be every single offseason. They're going to look at every possible route to improve their team. So obviously they've done well drafting lately, but they always are getting extra picks. And then they've done a great job in the trade market.

Jahan Dotson was a trade that was criticized for about six straight months. And it came in handy. I was wrong. That was not the first big play that he made because he made another one in the playoffs and it's come up big in the playoffs for them and then pickups obviously like Zach Bond. So just a great story in terms of team building.

We'll talk even more about the Eagles and, of course, the disappointment of this Chief's team. So close to history. And now they're just starting at the bottom, just like your bills, Eric. Best that. Hey, this is Matt Jones. Now, I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL cover zero.

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break but what's to miss we'll be back yeah you're going to see it like tomorrow yeah just like i guess this wasn't like a game specific sound shows to do we will be here on nfl daily Maybe not tomorrow. We've got a late flight. Gregs in his feeling. I already am in my feeling. Vitamin C's graduation. I want to talk about the coaching staff for the Eagles a little bit.

What a journey we've been on with Nick Siriani. Seeing him celebrate on the field, seeing him hold up the Italian flag with Dom while Eagles fans are like, you had it all the way, Nick. We love you, Nick. Even though they yelled at him like six weeks ago. We wanted you to get fired last year, Nick. I also want to know who are these fans that get on the field?

They must be like family members or friends of friends. I don't know, but he was loving it. It was a scene. And I just was thinking, Nick, if Nick Siriani was feeling himself before, just wait until now. This morning started with Adam Schefter throwing a report out how, hey, by the way, Nick Sirianni is due for a raise. And if they win this game. how that happens. Ben Johnson, you know, just reset the coaching market.

Nick Siriani has now won the second most amount of games in the history of the NFL in his first four seasons. If you can guess who's number one, Nick, I will give you $50. Can I get a hint of era? No. Can I guess? No. Why?

Because I saw the graphic and you were next to me, so you might have seen it. As a first time head coach. All time first four years of his career, yeah. I mean, we got to make a fast. Sean McDermott. No, no, it was George Sefer. That would have been a tough one. Oh, you know what?

That doesn't count. He showed up to an already made program. Let's give Siriani some pop for it, for leading this team. And also, again, for Howie Roseman, for keeping Siriani at a time when a lot of team, people did not think they should keep them. They kept him, but they got rid of his coordinators, and they picked his coordinators for him. Well, yeah, it was a perfect combination of, look, we realized that we didn't do well with our staff, that the dysfunction that we had on the defensive side, We had Sean Desaias' defensive coordinator. Then it was Matt Patricia.

Nobody really knew what was going on. Let's replace those guys. Let's go get Vic Fangio, who started his career as a coach in Philadelphia, and he wants to come back because Miami doesn't want it for some reason. And he's capable of coaching these young guys that we've stocked our defensive room up with. And then they just put it all into plan. And what they did that was probably most important was after Nick survived. Because that press conference that they had where they announced that he was coming back.

Nobody really knew going into that day. Jeff Lurie was there. Howie was there. Very weird vibes. Very tense, very strange. The opposite vibes from today. Yes, exactly. So to consider where they were, essentially at this time last year to now,

is an incredible journey that has so much to do with the right decisions that they had made in tough times and assembling a hell of a roster. Let's listen to Nick on the podium. Your coordinators, I felt both offensive and defensive, Fangio, and then Kellyn Moore were outstanding today. Yeah, Vick's been a great coordinator in this league for decades, and he was awesome today. Kellyn, you know, let's run this, let's run this back, Kellyn. Let's run this back.

I love that. I gave Kell over the last several weeks because it's just some of the tendencies that he would fall into. I thought he called a great game tonight. I really did. It was classic that it was in the Superdome where he may well be coaching as a head coach, like as of Tuesday. But it is, I know I'm like the Vic Fangio obsessive, right? get that like I'll wear that you're just like defensive coordinators like it just i love everything he did this season he didn't want to be in miami he came back to the place that called to him where he

had consulted before that he really wanted to be but what i really like about what vick did as well and what nick syriani did and what they all did as a collective they brought in really good people as assistants to clint hurt that defensive line coach what an absolute masterpiece he put together tonight and with that defensive front and with that rush plan. Christian Parker and Joe Casper are my age. I am 33 years old. They are the defensive backs coaches for this team and they are responsible for not only bringing this mix of veteran players and rookies up to speed in an extremely

complicated and tendency oriented defense, but they also reach players in ways that Vic Fangio has admitted sometimes he cannot. not. And so I think that it was an extremely thoughtful, meticulous, and balanced staff that the Eagles did put together this year. And it kind of resembles their team in a way. You mentioned their front office, Greg. You know, Jeff Scott came over from the commanders. He's a veteran. He's a veteran. He's one of their executives. Brain and Hunt is one of their executives. Charles Walls is a scouting director. You know, Amina, who has been made waves for her work as in the scouting departments in analytics it is a mixture of young people and older people and veterans just like

their coaching staff that i just mentioned just like their roster and i think that's maybe the secret sauce everything worked because everyone could point spider man meme style at another phase of this building and say hey i recognize that that works this works that works we're all kind of functioning of the same ethos right now yeah the group contributing in working as a team was so obvious on the field tonight. You think about the secondary, and we'll get to Cooper Dejean's comment in just a second, and then you think about the pass rush.

I'm counting the quarterback pressures. Six different players had at least three pressures in this game. Four had at least four. Josh Wett leads the way. But who is it but Milton Williams that gets the Brandon Graham like sack, the force fumble on Mahomes? Patrick Mahomes with three turnovers in this game.

Ajomo had four pressures in this game. Morrow Ajomo, who had a lot of early playing time. That was Vic actually going off tendency for most of the year. He was really playing those four up front, and that's how he started this game out. But then it was a lot of Ajomo and a lot of Jalick's Hunt, who he trusted more in the NFC championship than he had in any other game this season. Nolan Smith using that speed to power,

despite not being the biggest guy in the world. Really, everyone on the Chiefs Offensive line got work tonight at some point, but Joe Tuni especially got a lot of work. And Jalen Carter actually only had two. Like he was not one of those people with all the pressures, but he did push the pocket quite a bit. He was drawing a ton of double teams. He drew a holding, which I believe should be a stat.

And so that sort of teamwork was so emblematic of this defense. Let's actually hear from Cooper to Jean, who's just had a magical run here. as a rookie and we talked to him a little bit about what it meant to him to share this title with some of the veterans on his team here with Cooper de jean the author of a ridiculous rookie season and of a pick six in the Super Bowl can you walk us through that play a little bit for you I think it's just our defense working together like we have all year you know falling back right into the right to me to me sorry I was just eating cake

birthday cake no but then got got some blocks he was able to get in the end zone it's amazing Cooper a couple of your teammates told us that they felt in that moment the back-to-back sacks right and then your pick six it was a tonal shift the game was yours at that point what did you feel from them how did you guys rally around each other after that it's a lot of energy you know a lot of energy you know I think you know I think it helped us you know keep the momentum going even even more you know but we knew we had to finish we had to finish we had to finish job you know it wasn't over right there um half time you know we're just talking about you know finishing the job going all the way all the way till it hit zeros um that's what we did before we send

you off into this new orleans night tell me a little bit about your db's room and what it means to you know send darius slay out into the night as a super bowl champs it's awesome it's awesome you know what what he's given to me um and q and all those older guys what they've done for us um and the coaches too. It just poured into us ever since we got there. So I'm just happy that they get to enjoy this as well. And by the way, Cooper, first team all pro of NFL Daily on NFL Network, our show. We really enjoyed watching you play this. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Just a bunch of bald-nowers. Just a delightful young man, Cooper Dejean. And yeah, it could be the last game for Darius. He was having so much fun post-game on the field. I loved watching.

that i mean he has more fun than i think anybody all the time so he he also cooper de jean like made it sound so easy the the play that he made and was like that was not an easy play he was like i just read it it was the super bowl cooper also like he he laid back and he knew mohomes didn't see him there that was a very instinctual play for him to be able to cover like he did and tackle in the open field on the slot and then also to actually score the touchdown both that and the the Zach Bond interception. It's like, yeah, you can be in position, but you have to actually make the plays. And that interception by Bonn after the one by Dijin kind of made it go from like, oh, this is really going bad if you're a Chiefs fan to, oh my God, Patrick Mahomes is melting

down. And the Eagles have the dudes to take advantage. Let's talk a little bit about the Chiefs because they have to be stunned. I know the final score is 40 to 22, and I actually respect that they're playing hard in the fourth quarter, and they get those touchdowns. That's what you should do. It was 34 to nothing. This is Mahomes.

Like, we've never seen a Super Bowl or even a game like this from the Chiefs. Like literally in the entire Mahomes era, there has not been one single game like this where they just had the door. Wars blown off. Like, forget a Super Bowl. Like, this never happened to the Tom Brady Patriots. And I really think about Brady, who was pretty eloquent, actually, I'll actually him in the pregame show talking about how painful those Super Bowl losses are.

And as you get older, you start to realize how long that they're going to stick with you. And I do wonder if the weight of it got to them at all, five. Finally, because they did not play loose. They did not respond well after it was not going well. And the two guys that often step up the most in these moments had two of the worst first halves I've ever seen Travis Kelsey and Patrick Wilhelm. Travis Kelsey did not have a catch. He had two drops-ish.

I guess I'll go in the advanced step that way. But he did not have his first catch until the third quarter, pretty late in the third quarter. And Patrick Mahomes threw the two interceptions, took three sacks, faced a 43 percent pressure rate with no blitzes took seven hits was 0 for six on third down had one first down 23 total yards on 20 plays and only 33 yards passing and like a 10.7 passer rating at the half and it's it was stunning to watch and I'll go back to what I said at the at the start because we were all there we all felt this this tone that this game took immediately even before anyone took the field the chiefs came out and played like they felt the hostility of the crowd pressing down on them

Really, I do think that the crowd and that energy and like the tone that it set early, they manifested all of that immediately. That is what it looked like is exactly what that crowd sounded like today. Yeah, when you're in that environment, you do one of two things. You feed into it and you feed off of it and you're like, all right, let's go. I can think about Jared versus in Philly during the divisional round, right? Or you let it get to you and you let that wear on you. And then, and sometimes it shocks you so much that you don't know how to react.

They got the doors blown off of them and punched in the mouth by the, Eagles on the field, too. So you combine the two things, and suddenly they're like, whoa, what's going on here? We didn't expect this. We're the two-time defending champions. We know what we do, and yet nothing they tried to do worked. And I think it shows, too. Greg, and I want to hear more from you on this, is when your best player and one of the

best quarterbacks we've ever seen, if not the best quarterback we've ever seen, play football, when he's not just not at his best, but when he is at one of his worst performances that we've seen from him, it really shows the floor. laws and the weaknesses, I think, in the rest of that group and the rest of that offense. It's true that they're not a one-man team. No. But they aren't used to be in a position like this. And I can almost hear the listeners screaming at me like, oh, you've never had a game like this?

Like, how about the freaking Super Bowl five years ago? Like, how about that game? And then I would hear them in my head and I would say, that's a good point. I'm worried about you. You're hearing a lot of voices. It's true. It's true. I want to get that checked out.

It's kind of crazy that a guy that is, like, literally this was the second biggest deficit that they've ever had. They scored some points late in that game, too. The biggest loss they've ever had was a 22-point game against Tennessee, actually. It's crazy that two of them have happened in the Super Bowl, and it just, it makes you think about what a freaking brutal sport is. Yeah, because it's probably Travis Kelsey's last game if I had to guess. And there's no guarantee that Mahomes gets back here in the next few years. years like there's no guarantee about anything he might be back and they might win again next year too like there's no guarantee that doesn't happen but the patriots went 10 years between super bowls with a lot of

great teams they they had a couple losses in that stretch and as great as this entire run has been brady said it like he woke up the next morning after those losses and he couldn't believe it had freaking happened he thought he still had another game to play and when you're as prideful and as incredible as Patrick Mahomes is going to be as great as he is, this is going to hurt incredibly bad. But what are the common threads between those two losses? Because, yes, Mahomes had a bad game.

You could have said the same thing about that loss in 55 against the Buccaneers. They played dominant defense. I think Mahomes played well in that game. That's my hat. I don't even know if that's a hot take. But they didn't protect him well. That was the cause of injuries.

They lost a ton of guys in the offensive line going into that game. They were just piecing it together with chewing gum and duct tape. That was not the case this time. They just didn't have a good offensive line. Their investment at left tackle, Kingsley Suhomatah and Wanda Morris, neither of them proved to be good enough that they moved Joe Tuni out there.

Morris wasn't even active for this game. Exactly. That's just, I hate to say it because failure feels like a strong word, but it is a bit of a failure on the front office. And the margins are so slim because you are paying some of these guys, like Kelsey, like Jones, like Mahomes, a lot of money. So I think that this could be a come-to-Jesus moment for these chiefs. Much like the Patriots changed their identity over the course of time.

They were a defensive-laden team in that first run. They became more of an offensive team later. They could do- Chiefs have been doing it, to their credit. They have been changing as they go. And I have no question that they will change and figure things out. And obviously, they're one of the favorites, if not the favorite, for next season. I'm not saying that. It's just hard to start from scratch.

They did find a great little receiver. And Xavier Worthy, shout out to him, eight for one, 57, and two. I like that you celebrated those touchdowns, Xavier. Like, it's the Super Bowl. Enjoy your first down. Yeah. And it's interesting because I think it caught up to him a little bit, too. Some of the patches and the quick fixes that they had.

I really admire Joe Tunney for piecing together the end of this year, the way that he had to, getting moved, kicked out to the outside. And then, of course, in doing that, you're going to make part of your interior a little bit weaker because you're removing one of your best players and putting him out of position. That is so difficult to make that transition, by the way. Yes, exactly.

And then the things that they could do to mitigate some of the pressure that they face. We talked about it right at the top. They tried to pick and poke down the field in little pieces. the D.Bs, the Eagles linebackers, and the D.Bs, we're just not letting him do it. So when you can't do the things to help protect the fact that your offensive line is just generally in a frazzled state that you've had to make up for, and those answers don't really work. And then when Pat Mahomes is scrambling around, people are getting to him and hitting him and starting to force him off his throws. And then eventually taking him to the ground as the game continued, all of those things to help alleviate that embattled.

and, like I said, very frazzled offensive line, they just weren't going to work. And then the Eagles could stay in their A-plus plan against them. That's very rare to see that from an Andy Reid coach team is another team being able to stay in their A-plus plan against them. Yes, there are adjustments unless the personnel just doesn't stack up against what you're facing. Then at that point, you have nothing, no options. And this is still one of the greatest, if not the greatest six-year run in NFL.

Oh, absolutely. They've got three in six years. They lost two. convincingly. I mean, that didn't have another Patriots. I'm just saying it. Of course, it came back to this. And they got to an AFC championship in the sixth game.

I mean, that is just outrageously excellent run that there's not a huge reason to believe is going to end. But I got to think this was a very popular result. Well, across the country. In Buffalo, in Baltimore, in Baltimore, all the teams that Kansas. city has beaten you got to at least feel a little bit like well if the eagles can do it we can do it next time too right is there is there some small part of you that's like ha ha like you know you didn't get to do the thing that would make you greater in a dynasty than the patriots that

you love well i i've been honking about this eagles team for a while and i've been enjoying you did pick against him one way their success that was a big mistake um I meant like over the last, you know, five, six years. But yeah, I am that guy. It's less about the Patriots. I don't think, I don't think that matters. And more of the just the general, like, fatigue of seeing the same team went over and over in the same sorts of ways. As long as it's not your team.

Yeah. And, of course, if it's my team, that's great. Hold his feet to the fire. We did see Drake May, by the way. Oh, my God. We saw Drake May on Bourbon Street. We were walking to the NFL media party. and we passed right by Drake May,

and I whipped my head around to give Greg the look, and he clocked Drake May. He knew it was him and froze. Oh, no. Well, that's not true. The way you're telling this story is preposterous. It's very accurate. I am a journalist.

We were walking by, and I just sort of saw him at the corner of my eye as we're walking by, and I thought, oh, I was like, I think that's Drake May, but he looks too small, and then kept walking, and you were like, that was Drake Me and I was like, that was Drake Me. And also, by the way, he was a massive human. I don't know what Greg was thinking. There's a lot of large humans in this town right now.

We're this small. We've spent so much time around Shook the last week. You're desensitized to it. He was smaller than you. I'm not even kidding. I'm not even kidding. That's a factor. I was just with like Henry Hodgson and giant from NFL Network and Andy Gregg.

And it's just after a certain point, you're my size. if someone's over like five, ten, they're all about the same. And he just looked like, I think it was his baby face. He just looked like he was about 12 years old. This kid should not be on Bourbon Street right now. Like that was my second thought was, I don't think you're old. Are you old enough? Just barely.

Yeah, just barely. If it makes you feel any better, I was in the hotel gym this morning, and I saw M. Rob, and I didn't realize it was him until he was leaving and wave to me, and I feel terrible about it. Okay, well, that, that's fine. It happens to everybody. That's a colleague. He just wanted a reason to tell us that he was at the gym. this morning.

Yeah. Yeah. Just, I just want to make you feel better. A little bragger. Yeah, while we're here, do we have any other weird sightings for the week? I got to, I saw Puka Nakuwa in the hotel lobby and got to get a picture with my son and Puka, the author of Pookanakua Rules.

So I was very excited about that, told him that. Pooka Nukua Rules. That will be with me for the rest of my life that little moment. Yeah, and I asked you, I was like, oh, I was so. so excited for you. I was like, did Walker, like, freak out? Was he so excited? And Greg was like, no, he played it cool. Like, he was, he was internally excited. And I was like, that is so Greg's child. Like, oh, yeah, no, like, yeah, I'll, I'll be working with him someday. So, you know, but internally very excited. And emotional. Absolutely having the time

of his life. He was just as excited to meet Will Hernandez at a dinner at the NFL through. My friend Mike Balthus Valley for the growing Latino fan base and people that are involved in the the league and we don't need to get too deep into that i don't want to quite finish talking about this game but we're we're there let's just start let's give a couple more shoutouts before we go we can do a little rapid fire you mentioned kellen more i just want to give him some props for that the way he started this game how every single formation was completely different and especially that totally bananas one where he's got three receivers on both sides and i know it only ended up being a four-yard play. But if you watched how they came out of this game fast, I'm really glad

I remember to say that like every snap was between 15 and 20 seconds on the clock. And yet every formation was so different. So they weren't letting Spagnolo do all the, the substitutions and the crazy stuff that he wants to do. And yet they were showing so much and getting so much information about how they were going to respond. They were on the front foot. Kellan Moore kind of came after and I saw a clip of Steve Spagnolo on the broadcast, losing his freaking mind late in that second quarter. And I was like, I have not seen that Steve Spagnolo since he was on the sideline as the St. Louis Rams head coach. And I thought like, wow, this is different. It did feel like one of those cases.

It really did. All right. That was not rapid fire at all. Yeah, that was a little long, no. Well, you wouldn't be you if that were the case, Greg. We love you. Mackay Beckton goes out. Tyler Steen comes in and replaces him for a little bit.

Mackay comes back and then celebrates a touchdown by hitting some dance moves that made me concerned about his knee. I want to shout out ofante Maddox because on that fourth, I believe it was fourth and three. The game felt like pretty over, but that was the one that really punctuated it. That past breakup. It was a really athletic, really smart play. It just, again, went to show that everybody got a piece of this action. I loved that. I also loved Brandon Graham coming off of the triceps and just playing with this massive,

And he got snaps, too. And he made a couple, he had a couple moments. And he was playing with this massive brace around his left arm. He got to walk out as one of the captains for the coin toss. And we got to talk to him post game, Greg. And I just thought, again, brimming with emotion, he brought his kids to our interview. And he was so proud, they are old enough now for them to remember not only what this looked like for him to win this, but also. for what it took for him to come back from this.

Here with Brandon Graham, just after he won his second Super Bowl title with both of his kids, what does it mean for you to win this in front of your family? It feels so good. The last time I won one, it was just baby girl. I got both of them here.

They both understand it. And they see how hard we worked this all season, all season. And I'm just hoping that what they take away from it is you just got to stay focused, even during storms that you can. go through, you got to talk it out, get it, you got to stay, you got to put your head down and keep working, and that's what this team did all year.

Brandon, what will it mean for you to have your kids old enough to remember what it looks like for you to battle back to be in this game today? Well, it feels good for them because they, I mean, they seen what I went through this off this year, even during like the season when I got hurt, baby girl, she's been cried and I cried and it's all like, I mean, they all in tune with what's going on. So I'm very thankful that they got to experience this and we all smiles right now. Yeah, I'm sure it wasn't easy. But you looked like you were ready to come back.

You gave that right tackle some work tonight. What got into that entire defensive line in this game? We knew it was all the marvels. We needed. We needed it. We didn't want this year to go in vain, all the good stuff that we did. And all we did was lock in all week. We sacrificed a little party and to get what we wanted.

and now we can go party and do what we do. Brandon, you're the start, but I want to ask your kids one question, okay? Guys, how proud of you are you of your dad tonight? You're proud. He did it. How about that play by Milton Williams that looked just like your play back in the Super Bowl? While Tom Brady's covered it, what do you think? I'm thankful for that boy because him, sweaty, Nolan, I mean, J.C.,

even though J.C. took two every play. So he opened up the door for a lot of guys with the one-on-ones, and we just won our matchups today, and very thankful for these guys. Brandon, you guys rushed for the entire night. McFand you did not have to call one blitz. The strength of the collective, everybody ate tonight. What does that mean to watch everybody get a piece of the action

without meeting the sundowns? It meant so much. We knew we had to stop the ground before, and we had to make sure that we was able to cover because Mahomes is such a great quarterback. We know that we got some great. They got some great coaches over there on top of great players. We had to make sure that we had the best execution that we had all year.

And so, boy, they played hard today. Congrats. You've already celebrated one Super Bowl title. What do you learn from that that you're going to put into this celebration now? Well, you know what? Last time I had stood out here just so I can feel it because, you know, when you go through adversity, you don't want to run. And I'm so happy that I stuck through it because now, I mean, now we got the green confetti

coming down and it just feels so much sweeter because we knew what happened last time and we wanted to make sure that that didn't happen again. I have to ask you, you know I got to ask, are you coming back? Hey, let me tell you, right now, I'm just so happy you're going to, it's the best way, the best way to do it right now is to leave a champion. So right now that's what, that's where I'm at. Brandon Graham always shows up in the Super Bowl, appreciate you. Hey, this is Matt Jones.

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I'm glad you mentioned Kendrick. Let's get some. some thoughts let's let's start with the the kendrick aficionado yeah the people at home loved it uh i personally loved serena i was just gonna say that i loved that moment yes that was fantastic um layered by the way if you know the lore a lot a lot of references there dig into that google it find it out uh i love that he you know a lot of people probably thought that he was going to bring some hits in and he really stuck it to gnx like he stayed true to gnx and what he's done that was a little surprising but he still played not like us he still got it in at the end he got mustard out there they were moving

from stage to stage. It was a blast. It was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it. He did an outstanding job. Again, loved all the layers to the performance, love the references. I thought it was an important performance as well as a really, really good one. I mean, and to hear in the stadium 60 plus thousand people scream out in unison.

A minor. Yeah. Just levels to it? I mean. And then it said game over. stands on all the little wrist lights too by the way that was crazy just the dominoes that started first person shooter for to end up here i think roger sherbin said it best that Drake lost this beef in the worst way possible of any rap beat in history and that includes people

who literally were shot and killed over yeah yeah it's true because it was happened in a worldwide stage. It's truly remarkable. And that's why we have to at least mention it here. There is no musical moment that is even in conversation with this one in the history of rap. Like if there is a world that will be writing like books about music history in a hundred years, they'll be ranking the best rap battles ever. And like it'll be one, there will be no two. It is just, that was an amazing moment also brought me back to that that serena wimbledon moment which was yeah which was incredible yeah we were watching videos of it up in the press box before the third quarter started it was fantastic although i would have you know would have liked a little all right or uh swimming pools

i know i was hoping for you know so many hits so little time poetic justice money trees i guess i guess we're out i guess we're out of football things to talk about that's it the football was fun we just had the best week we did oh my god we had a amazing week. I can't believe this experience all year. It's been incredible. You guys are obviously a huge part of that. Greg is literally the reason for that. I feel so grateful. Like I'm going to crash really hard off of this adrenaline at some point and I'm probably going to have a good cry. And then I'm going to think about like how my life has changed over the last year. And this was really the culmination of it. What a beautiful, beautiful week this was.

Yeah, special thanks to you, Greg, really, for assembling all of us, rotating the group. I love you, too, and doing the show with you is, like, it's such a total joy. And the vibe that we have on this show, how everyone who is a regular part of the show, and I wish could be here now, just brings their own different energy. But there's just kind of no agenda, and it's fun. and I really wish Patrick Claibon was here and I wish Steve Weish was here and he's been setting me joking texts all week

of like, oh, how come you didn't invite me on this radio? It's like, hey, you're covering the freaking Steve, you're on network all day. Steve is so busy, yes. And also Colleen, we kind of got to celebrate with her because she was hosting the game today. Yeah, to see her up on the big screen

is like one of the joys of the season and everyone else, obviously, that has contributed. And that includes behind the scenes. I want to thank, well, before we get out of here, of course, Jason English and Sean at IHeart for helping us throughout the course of the week. David Singer for getting us those guests. Matt Schneider, as I mentioned, for really steering the ship and helping us out tonight as well.

Hey, hell, Will Gavin for putting me on Talksport. Thank you, Will. That's freaking awesome. We have Drake here and Jay, obviously, with all the camera work, it takes a lot of people to put a season like this together. And our first show that we did, Jordan, with Patrick, was about what's going to bring us joy? What are we looking for that's going to bring us joy in this season? And it has been a total joy to do this show and to watch this freaking Eagles team.

It is such a crazy, weird draining buildup, but also you're just like hoping to get to the finish line. and you just hope that it all makes sense and pays off in the end. And there was something about this game and this team that I absolutely love. They are the champions of the first year of NFL Daily. That's how they will be. And in the words of Nick Siriani, let's run that shit back. Yeah. I have to say, I know you want to get us out, Greg, but I do want to tell this story.

So I was going to an agency event, and Greg was kindly offered to walk me there. It was dark and all of that. we were having a good talk and I turned to you and I said I already knew you before we've been colleagues for a while but to get to work with you to work with you this close I mean you see people like if you're rubbing shoulders with them like every single second of every single day and this goes for you too Nick like I got to see just so much of how you guys operate and how you work and Greg I said this to you and I'm going to embarrass you now it is so cool when you meet someone who is one of your heroes, and they turn out to be even better than you ever thought they could be,

and that is you. So thank you for changing my life. Thank you to Iheart for changing our lives and for making this the best week possible. You are making me feel uncomfortable. I love that for me. We're all bad to take a comment. In the best way. I know.

This is the anti-compliment group. Deflect, defleck. Look, we're all in our feelings and we're all doing these things, but it doesn't end here. We're going to be back on NFL Daily. later this week and look, the Combine, I've already bought my tickets, literally leaving two weeks from today. I'll be there. And we have a ton of shows getting you ready for free agency and the combine. This is kind of my season. I've been working on the top 101 free agents and the rankings. I know you're so excited. The Greg list comes out soon. I love this time of year and I love that we

got to spend all this time in New Orleans. Let's hit that music for the last time of the 2025 season. we're in a trailer they're going to turn off the power any second for Nick Shook and Jordan Roderig and yeah what Jalen Hertz is up on that podium holding up the Vince Lombardi

trophy I guess football it's officially back Hey everybody Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks On Move the 6th we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends,

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