NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Super Bowl Opening Night Recap

Episode Date: January 31, 2018

A room filled with heroes- Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal, Colleen Wolfe- are all together in a comfy little hotel room in Minneapolis for Super Bowl 52! The heroes recap their experiences at Opening Night, including why it was Marc Sessler's favorite Super Bowl media night yet (8:00); Dan's important question to Bill Belichick -- and his reaction (12:00); Gronk's status for the Super Bowl (20:00); A teaser of the Mall of America video shoot, which included Steampunk-themed old time photos, feeding the sharks and some roller coaster riding (35:00); Gregg's Top 60 quarterbacks of the Super Bowl era -- and who strongly disagreed with his list (46:00); And MUCH MORE!Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Around, to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or... Around. Domain. Squarespace. The Around the NFL podcast is really feeling themselves. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast presented by Head and Shoulders. My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by a hotel room filled with heroes. Whoa.

Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, Colleen Wolf, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, people? Hey, Dan. Hey. Hello. Literally in a hotel room. Yeah. Room of the, well, let's not say the name.

We should not say. Yeah. But we are overlooking Bloomington, Minnesota, a beautiful roadside suburb. Wait, why don't you want to say the name? Because we have such a high opinion of ourselves. We're worried stockers might come and get us. Yes. No, that checks out.

Obviously. Obviously, yes. No, we are staying in this wonderful hotel establishment that happens to have a TGI Friday's connected to it. Yeah, it does. And have we mentioned, I don't think it's come up on the show yet, also a 24-hour eye-hop. I mean, we're rolling. Squeeze me, baking powder? Rolling in deep luxury.

All I want are chocolate chip pancake. I feel like I'm screaming. All I want are chocolate. chocolate chip pancakes. It's possible. It's open 24 hours in a row. Thanks. I feel great.

So just to paint a picture and maybe Lindsay can take a photo for the audience. Greg, Colleen, sitting on one bed, Mark in a chair, Wes in a pull-up couch. I'm on the opposite twin bed. It's a pull-up couch. It's a chair. It's a easy chair, but yes. And Lindsay also manning the technology. You know, I don't know if she's going to make it through the show.

There's a lot of wires. I feel like the machine. Machines might take over by the end of the show, but we're going to... It definitely looks like a bomb. Make sure she's okay. It was definitely like a season three episode of McGiver, you know, before the show. And she finally got it all together by tying different, you know, things with twigs. As a side note, this is the room that we're staying in together all week.

Yeah. And it's been, it's tight quarters. It already smells weird. It does. Yeah. So a lot to get to. A huge, huge show. Tuesday, taping this late Tuesday.

And we have, what do we have coming up? Last night was opening night. I don't buy that. And you could, you could throw your corporate jargon at me all you want, shadowy league figures. It's always going to be media day. And maybe I'll allow you, media night. Don't hit me with this opening night.

Hocum. It's moving in that hyper corporate direction. So I agree with your, with your, heading. I don't think you have a choice, though. Oh, in written copy, yeah, you get bang. But in this space, media night. Maybe our listeners can tell us. Do people like opening night?

I'm trying to put myself, if I was 14 years old, would I watch it? I probably would. But as an adult, it's a tough. If my team was playing. Yeah, for sure. But since it's on NFL Network, I'd ingest every minute of coverage. Sure, it's excellent programming, very compelling, no matter what your age or gender is. Absolutely.

And so we'll take some takeaways. Also, whatever's going on in the news, and all the intrepid reporters of around the NFL are going to be covered. covering both teams all week. And then we'll check in with some of the written pieces. I know sometimes somewhat strangely, but also understandably, we, you know, hit up against this wall where we have all these great listeners. But do we have people that are reading our content? Well, there's some great written content from everybody on the team.

So we're going to talk about a couple pieces, including Wes, who wrote a banger.com backslash members. Belichick, not just a genius coach, but also a gifted team builder. So we'll get into that a little bit. And maybe even Greg Rotterbanger. If we have time, maybe. We'll see. On the banger scale, where do you rate it?

It's low, but it was, I mean, it's compelling on various fronts. Mark handled that. And yes, the TGI Friday's by far the most important aspect of this trip. We set an over-under in our Thursday show, or I set the over under of 99 and a half drinks for the four original members of the year. Oh, I have to be included in this. I made it for a drink already.

I threw you in. The only reason why, let me just say, the only reason why you weren't initially included was because you're staying downtown in your fancy pants hotel. Right. And I didn't add it in. But what I could, I'll leave it up to Greg,

who's an addict in this field. I could adjust the over under if we want to include Colleen. Greg, you make the decision. decision, and then I'll adjust. Yeah, I think you can do it in the spirit of fun and games. Okay, so the over and under has been adjusted. It was 99 and a half drinks consumed by the entire group.

I am going or the desert people are going to bump it to $1.99. To the desert people are going to bump it to 107.5. 107.5 is where they put it down. Remember, Connie, not staying at the hotel, so you have to factor in all these things. Where she's staying here, you would double the total, I think. That would be where I, that's where I would go with the same. That was disrespectful. She lays utter siege to the bar.

I've spent more time, though, at this hotel than I have at my hotel. So I feel like I'm staying here. Well, you're always welcome. Colleen is, I think, motivated and maybe even petty enough to just come here to raise that total now that she knows that she's in it. I like that we put Colleen through like a 14-hour day and now we're continuously in a circle ripping on her, her high qualities. It's so funny, guys. It got real. So 107 and a half.

Half is the over-under, and I have been tabulating and tracking. I'm not joking since Sunday night. On a napkin. I've been watching you just. You're taking notes. The exact total for drinks between Wes Sess, the old Zusser, Connie Fox now involved, and Greg is 26. Well, you had two just now, didn't you, Connie?

No, just one. 26. Well, for the record, I said hard over and it wouldn't be close, you know, on the other show. Well, how about to help contribute to? And I don't need to. Greg sitting on the old goose egg right now. not a team player this might come right down to sunday night i'm writing tonight i'm writing tonight it's not gonna it'll be a blowout it is at 26 over under 107 it's it's gonna be

seahawks broncos that's that's and i have a new favorite person by the way okay the soosh oh the suh he's a bartender at fridays uh on his his his uh name tag the s u s h it's a big deal soosh do you know where the name comes from his last name is susa ramba hmm which is check. Wes is already, like, deep friends with the TGI Friday's bartenders on day three. Wes is so different than me in a lot of ways. But the one that probably stands out most is, like, social settings. And I'm sitting next to Wes, and I only want to talk to you guys,

and I just want to have a couple of ocas before the show. And Wes is sitting directly to my left, and Wes starts chatting up this dude from Green Bay, starts asking the sush about what his last name derives from. I like it. And it's like, I totally respect. They're great. Wes, you are a great man and a great conversationalist. A social butterfly.

And a social butterfly. You're curious. You're a curious man. Well, hold on. You also, when you know you're going to be at a bar for five or six, seven days in a row, it behoves you to befriend every bartender you see to get in, get in early to dig in, and then the free drinks start coming later on. I would say the La Raville Magnifico here is that I am the exact opposite outside of a bar setting.

Like, I don't want to give anything, any human thing. There is a benefit. Nothing interesting can come up a conversation on a sidewalk. So there you go. That's what's going on on today's show. And so let's get into it. Let's start with Media Night. Before we get into some news, let's talk about the opening.

It's kind of like the opening kickoff of this insane week of coverage. And it was held at the XL Energy Center. I call it the X. Some people don't. Some people do. I call it the X. In St. Paul, we go, Mark, get us started here.

Your takeaways on media night. Well, I would say that media night, I think for each of us on a different level, there's some anxiety attached to it because it is a barrage of journalists and non-journalists collapsing on two teams that probably typically don't want to be there. Last night's media night, to be fair,

was my favorite of them all. It was a little bit, I thought, a little bit downbeat compared to some of the crazy elements we've seen in the past. I thought the Eagles were actually quite fascinating. I'm more convinced than ever that my job on Media Night is to talk to coaches. I don't really care about the players that much. Listening to Josh McDaniel's talk for 20 minutes,

I found someone I thought he knows where he's going, no matter he's not saying it, he is feeling himself this week. He is starting to break away a little bit from Patriots speak. They were asking him about Bill Belichick's future, about his future, and he wasn't revealing anything, but he was doing it in a less robotic, refined way. My last note is the way this is going, and you mentioned it, Dan,

it's becoming such a television event. I know they're going to have to find someone to ask questions of these various players and coaches at some point. I'm not sure that five years from now, journalists will even have an ingrained role in this event. I don't know how they would figure it out, but journalists seem to be at this point less and less a part of this, and it just becomes more of a cavalcade. Well, two things. First thing it came to my mind because, Mark, you are famous for your love, coordinators when you have someone like a Josh McDaniels who of course used to be a head coach

became a coordinator now set to again become a head coach with the cults is there part of you that a little bittersweet that you're losing him from the coordinator ranks you're famously obsessed coordinator well yeah because if you have never you know most fans would never have been to a media night like the assistant coaches sit up in the bleachers and it's a little bit easier to get to them. Whereas the head, Bill Belichick has 7,000 people around him. And it's like, for me, like, I'm not even going to go try that. I know, Dan, you got in there. Answer the question. Yes, it is a little bitters. I mean, whenever you lose a coordinator to the higher ranks, yes, I'm much more interested in the coordinators than most of the head coaches. For me, like, I, you know, I'm wacky,

a reverend guy on NFL.com. So, like, my job was, you know, what's going on on the floor. I love what you did. Who's wearing funny outfits. Who's, you know, what's like the shenanigans. And almost always, and we've done it, Mark, you and I, seven years in a row for NFL.com, insanely. There's going to be people dressed up, and that's part of, like, the hook to try to get players, especially the bigger name guys to talk to you. There was nobody dressed up. There was... Like, two people.

There was one guy's a shark, and it was not even an expensive shark costume. But they stood out in a weird way. There was one guy from Austria wearing a football uniform, and how bad was it in terms of... And part of, like, when they send all these local and national news crews, oh, find the wacky people to talk to. I saw some, like, newscast interviewing a guy, and all he was wearing was just, like, a doctor's, like, jacket. That was all he had.

They were like, so what's your outfit? It was like, you know, I'm just wearing it. It's like a doctor's thing. It's part of my radio show here. So, was it kind of lame? It was. More business-like, I thought. It was definitely less of a circus and what you could either like or hate.

and that's why I about halfway through the Patriots. I just went over. I saw Belichick. It was a big crowd, but he wasn't being swarmed. So I kind of snuck in two rows back. And then somebody left. And all of a sudden for like 25 minutes, I was just in front of Belichick.

And I just, and I wrote about it on the end around, if you want to check it out. I just essentially just watched Belichick do Belichick, and I did kind of come upon when I was writing late last night, the realization that no one's ever had been involved with more media days than Bill Belichick. Eight for the Patriots. two for the Giants.

Who's beat 10? So just watching... Nine for the Patriots. Nine? Wasn't he defensive coordinator on the 96 Patriots? That's a good call. Right. You're not to just a copy.

But your question to Bill was amazing. What was your question? All right. So basically I'm sitting in front of him for, you know, like I said, about 30 minutes. And I was like thinking to myself, well, I should probably ask him something. I'm literally four feet away from him staring at him. After a while, he might just look at you and be like, come on, man. What do you got?

Be productive. Work. So I wanted to add something. No days off. No days off. No days off. No days off. So I had I had this. And Lindsay, I believe you have, you could play that for us. Here is my question to Bill. And Mr. Belichick's response. Modern Vince Lombardi. Bill, Super Bowl hoodie, game day decision? Or is it planned out? Game day, yeah. Game day. Yeah. See how it's gone.

That was it? Let me just explain to you. Let me explain to you. There was no opportunity for a follow-up. Belichick, because he's right in front of me, before I finish the question, which obviously was not a good question. But before I even finish the question.

I learned something from it, which is not true of every question. Well, he answered it like a guy who's answered it many times, which he probably has because he's done this so many damn times. So, like, he cuts off my question, answers it, and then he locks in on me. And he locks in icons. and he just like saws me in half like uh game day game day game day and then he just looks away

and like he made me feel he made me feel like i was about three foot tall a three foot tall parts of dan are still left yeah it is my innards are still spilled out at the x and then like to compound matters like oh my like five minutes later some little 10 year old some sand oh no we shouldn't say things like that about little kids no a 10 year old boy ask a a great question, a nuanced question that Bill thought about and gave a really nice answer to, and that made things feel worse. But it was cool to see Bill in action, and I really enjoyed that a lot more than seeing Pickboy for the 400th time on the floor. Well, one of the things you don't know about Belichick is he knows who the Jets fans are.

Like, he can smell it, he can smell him, and that's part of his bitterness and hatred towards that organization that he just goes after. You could smell the green desperation. I thought one of the craziest things, because I was sitting behind Dan at one point. And when they introduced, they brought out Nick Foles, who I, like him or not, he's a harmless character. He's not a villain in this whole thing. You're not going to get a sound bite from. That's for sure. He certainly has sort of a makeup how he's walking around this week with those, like, kind of like.

He's wearing like the glasses my mom wore in the 80s. He looks like an accountant that rolled in his, but anytime an Eagles came out, the stadium, because there's fans there, which makes it a delightful place to write articles, by the way. They were booing him like crazy. And I was thinking, these Patriots fans, how dare you be this rancorous towards the Eagles? Have a little bit. And then Dan was like, no, this is Vikings fans that poured in from the city to destroy the Eagles. Right.

And it's a very good news. Think about if the Vikings won and didn't get trounced in the NFC title game, what a different vibe. It would have been incredible. It would have been a full stadium. Yeah, it would have been the best opening night. I talked to Steve Belichick. for a decent amount of time and came away, like, loving his sort of affect. Like, if you thought Bill Belichick has a dry humor, and he does, I mean, he is trying to be funny

sometimes. A real wit cracker. Steve Belichick is even more bone dry. Everything is the most flattest affect, but he does it in a funny way. Like, I sort of asked him about, I was talking to him about Devin McCordy, and he said at one point, And he's like, you know, fans, they don't understand what Devin McCordy does. I don't even really understand what Devin McCordy does. No, but he sounds like.

Greg, say yes, and let's generate some headlines here. No, and he spoke very intelligently about Devin McCordy and passionately. But he has this sort of like, you can't quite believe this is Bill Belichick's son in some way. And it's one of the reasons why I don't buy that Bill Belichick is. is retiring this season and that he was wearing his father's hat as some sort of emotional goodbye. It's because he loves coaching with his son. I think that's got to be one of the maybe the number one highlight of his entire NFL career. And I don't think he wants to get that out.

I wish Gronk was there. I feel like that would have maybe. It worked out perfectly for the concussion protocol. And we're going to get to Gronk in a second. It sounds like Gronk is fine, but he was able to duck out of media day. It is a league rule, to be fair. No one in the concussion protocol all season. Carson Wentz was there.

I mean, he was there for a limited amount of time, but he sat up in the stands and was mobbed. No, different deal, but I thought that was good of him to come out and ask questions. Any other thoughts before we move on to the news? This sounds maybe cheesy, but I thought that we've already encountered probably 150 people from Minnesota, these stadiums that have been trying to help out. And they don't always know the answer to when you're trying to, because they don't work in these stadiums. So they're doing the best thing. it is truly a great group of people

we've been to some Super Bowls where you don't get those volunteers but it's been Minnesota has been good so far when I think we came in with a lot of worries the weather hasn't been a huge issue has it little Minnesota shout out to the people well because I mean it's it's no I think it's a Super Bowl I was wondering where you're going to know because it's probably going to get like like pre

a lot of pre shots come in before you even get here and it's been fine so far it hasn't gotten too cold yet hasn't gotten too cold yet two very quick things is that James Harrison is the, he's just the most intimidating, badass that you would ever want to talk to. And I spent a while next to him talking, it was a couple Pittsburgh reporters and me, and they were really trying to drive home why he left. And he just, he just answered things in such a way.

It was just, I was sort of in awe next to him. One guy asked him about the Patriot way, and he's like, I don't know about any Patriot way. I got the James Harrison way. I've been doing that my whole life. I don't need a Patriot. We were also sitting next to Scott Zolak. all people at the table next to us and it was an insane group of like it was their radio makeup and they were like jumping over tables and back slapping and at one point back us out of our own

workspace and zolak was just like this gigantic lumbering man shouting at the room. It was a little bigger than I thought he would be. Way bigger for a quarterback and I was like drunk size yes it did cross my mind should we or should I talk to him or maybe get a soundbite for the pod but it's like no I don't there's no way that ends well either he's not on the show if it's going to happen, he should be on the show. Right. And what happens to interview him and he's a great guy? I think he'd be fun on the show.

We should, we should do it. I do like this Eagles team, just the vibe that they have. It's a really fun team. Maybe I'm getting that Stockholm syndrome. Like when I, someone fell in love with the Broncos that year. I did and I picked them. Right. I did too.

And I was right, by the way. Oh, the right one. No, I'm talking about the year that they got blown out by the Seahawks. I fell in love with Dan Quinn of the Seahawks. I mean, it had happens over the course of the course. After watching these Eagles games and going to their locker room after the game, and especially last night, it's a great team of personalities. Like the defensive line of Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, Lane Johnson is great, and I just think they've got the right attitude. Brent Selleck.

I think Brent Selleck is fun of listen to. And you could ask Mark this, not as good as the people of Minnesota. All right. I said it sounds cheesy, but they've actually been super nice, and I kind of appreciate that, you know. Very nice people. Mark's pick for Super Bowl MVP. You know, it's called Minnesota Nice. That's what they say.

All right. You know, especially like the children, I noticed. Like, give it up, give it up for the time. Greg, checking in on all the areas of children. That sounds healthy. All right, let's do some news. Let's start with Rob Grunkowski, who we brought up. And Grunk, of course, suffered that concussion in the first half of the AFC title game.

And now it gets two weeks to get cleared and healthy. The Boston Herald report. that Gronk has been going, quote, full tilt in practice. And everyone believes that the clearance for the tight end is a matter of time at this point. Obviously, great news for the Pats, Wes, who, less we forget, Gronk is the type of player who could single-handedly win a Super Bowl. Yeah, I said a couple weeks ago, Gronk has never been more important to Tom Brady in that offense than he's been this year.

You saw that in December, especially the Steelers game. Rapsheet reported. that he was jovial and at ease at their send-off party. He certainly sounds like a guy they're expecting to be cleared later in the week. They're not allowed to talk to the media, so I guess you are allowed to get on Instagram story and talk about the freezy-freezy weather in Minneapolis. I don't know if you saw that, you know, brilliant.

I did not see it. Freezy-free-free. He was like, well, his spelling is like, I'm here in Minneapolis. Freezy, freezy. Well, he was, like, rowdy on stage before the send-off at Gillette. He looked completely fine. You rarely see. Mark puts his foot down.

No, I already find it that I know we have to like monitor every inch of this, but he is playing. There's only been one Super Bowl that he's been healthy for. And that was the Seahawks Super Bowl. And it will be like I do wonder how they're going to approach him because basically the Jaguars decided to put two people on him the whole time and make the outside guys be. I sat through an extremely long pre-Super Bowl production meeting for the written content on our fine website. Sexy. And we went through each of the final four teams at that stage. And one of the topics that was pitched, remember, there are no bad ideas, just like there are no bad questions.

Let me know if you thought there was a bad idea. Someone pitched, oh, the Super Bowl is the last real thing that Gronk has to conquer and be a star at. And it was like, well, like he's only been healthy. Once. And that one game, I think he did eight for 66 and a touch, something like that. He played well. Yeah. He was fine. He scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl in a close game. No, he was fine in that game. And he missed a game outright last year, obviously, with his injury, back injury. And he had a high ankle sprain that probably cost the Patriot's Super Bowl against the Giants.

Remember that Helmerie at the end of the game. But, yeah, Gronk is Gronk. Well, the flip side is how many players have come back from as many injuries as he has and still operate at the level that he does. It's not a crazy point, though, that if he had a, as much as everyone sees him as maybe the greatest tight end ever, he would go up another level with a monster Super Bowl performance. Or a better quarterback. Let's spin out of the Super Bowl for a second and talk about Dean Peas, retirement over. That was quick.

The Titans hired the X, hey, coordinator talk Mark. Coordinator with Mark Sessler. I don't know if Peas ranks high in my intrigue list, but continue. Titans hired X Ravens, defensive coordinator, Dean. Pee's as their defensive coordinator. Greg, give us the dirty. Why is his retirement already over? Give us some dirty Pee.

It sounds like he was forced to retire, that he essentially was fired by the Ravens. It's a familiar person to Mike Ravel, obviously, from New England. He sort of had a similar ending in New England where they didn't renew his contract, didn't exactly fire him. This is a weird situation to me that P's got so much more pop than LaFleur. The guy hired to be offensive coordinator, which is the most of the most of the Most important coaching position on that team with Marcus Marriota's development.

And he's a guy who worked under Gary Kubiak, Mike Shanahan, two of the best offensive minds in modern NFL history. And then Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVeigh, the two best offensive minds in the current NFL. This guy's never called plays before, but he seems custom made to be Marcus Mariota's quarterback's quarterback. Yeah, and I know that, I mean, obviously Kyle Shanahan's going to get the credit for what happened with RG3's rookie season. But LaFleur, but Matt LaFleur was the quarterback coach there. He was the quarterback coach when you have Jared Gough turning in round. So I think it's an interesting pairing for Marcus Marriota for sure. Didn't LaFleur interview for the head coaching job before Brable?

That's interesting. Is it awkward? I don't know. I mean, apparently not. And it's nice that the Rams didn't have to let him leave either if they didn't want to. Some teams like the Eagles last year with John D. Filippo say like, no, sorry. Blashton. Begay and John D.

Filippo. Talk about bangers. Mark's been cultivating one for some time. We got a banger come out late last. week. Coming out later this week. All right. Sitting with the edit desk now.

I'm still just, I'm distracted because Colleen was fascinated by Grankowski's bad pair of dress shoes. And I just feel like it needs to be dressed. During the entire Gronk discussion, I went down a rabbit hole. On GQ, they're throwing all the shade at Granc because of his dress shoes that he wore. I guess he's kind of wearing. He's kind of bad. He's wearing the shoes like, hey, Gronk, you have to dress up.

And you're like, well, get that one pair of dress shoes I wear. They look fine to me. I'm not one to criticize. but they, yeah, they seem serviceable. They actually, they kind of look like a pair you have, Mark. Sure, again. They're just, they're basic brown. I think he checked the box.

I mean, you know. They're not square toe. It doesn't matter. Who cares? All right. In other news, Blake Bordels underwent wrist surgery. How about that? And because of that, that puts them in a tricky situation.

The Jaguars, if it might even, even, Wes, help them make their decision or make the decision for them whether or not he will be back in Jacksonville in 2018. Well, a lot of people are confused by the fifth year option for first round picks that it's guaranteed for injury only, which means if Blake Bortles can't pass a physical, that 19 million for 2018 is guaranteed. And if you've heard the Jaguars talk about Blake Bortles, they get awfully bizarrely chesty about how they made the right decision that's going with him.

Oh, yeah. The owner, Shot Khan said, like, looks like we weren't the biggest idiot's ever now about Blake. Oh, my goodness. Be careful. As they put him on the shortest leash you've ever seen for playoff games. And that date that he has to pass the physical by is March 14th. 16th, I believe. The 16th.

Oh, Mark stuck it to you there, Greg. How that feel? It felt fine. Got my hand. I got my finger on the pulse of the NFL calendar. Catch up a place. I wanted to be accurate. I thought it was the first day of the league year.

But I was wrong. I wonder now, I mean, now we're seeing a report from our guy Ian Rappaport that says, you know, they want to keep Blake Borels. And it's because they don't have a choice. So forget the whole Kirk Cousins thing. Big news for the bills, Eric Wood, their center, that he's been a real rock along their line for close to a decade. He's retiring. And it's because of a neck injury that the health issues connected to that will keep him from continuing his NFL career. It's not official official yet

They're working out some of the cap issues But Eric Wood's career is over West He's a Cincinnati guy, right? Went to my high school, one of the few guys Yeah, Kyle Rudolph, Eric Wood, a couple of long snappers Yeah, that's awesome Elder high school in Cincinnati, yeah Can I ask you because his hair

He has one of the most interesting heads of hair in the NFL What did it possibly look like back during high school Because it's an insane head of hair at the moment It's a curly mom I graduated about 10 years after that. Okay. You don't know a beat on that? He does have, like, the greatest American heroes, Herricko.

He's a really impressive ringlets. But I think, like, when I think of Eric Wood, you've also had Ryan Chazier and Cam Chancellor, and it's just a reminder that we need these reminders come contract negotiation time that you really are one play away from the end of your career every time you suit up for an NFL game. For sure. Circling back to the Patriots.

Greg, you were out there in media availability? Oh, yeah. today any takeaways from that uh no not today that that was uh oh hey egg on my face oh i thought you said last night oh daddy got burned in the hotel room and he as you bounce on the bed who has been our room who's had Kevin patro was there oh patcher we were we were taping our our video show which is going up on friday although some segments i think will come out some segments i think messed up my neck yeah we went on a halacious roller Are we going to talk about this?

Do we want to talk about it? Sure. I mean, quickly. I mean, we went on a roller coaster. Mark had to beg off number two. Well, no, I mentally prepared myself. I don't do roller coasters since age 13, did it today for the benefit of the show. And then it was like, hey, we're going to go do a second one.

Right. I'm not. You are. I will watch you do a second one. I don't know. It was a little Kenny Britt-like, I thought. Well, sometimes, you know, that is unfair. But like, Kenny Britt at Meady Day, I walk by him at one point.

Kenny Brick, he's in the Super Bowl, which is insane. It's not fair. There's no karma. And I saw some dude, like, roll over to Britt and tried to get some, like, quotes about the Browns and what was like being on the Browns and all the stuff. And Kenny would be like, I ain't talking about that. Dilly, deal it. Stop it. And then the guy tried to circle back around with a different angle.

And he's like, so, but tell me how different is it. And he's like, deal it, it's like, oh, how many ways should I destroy an employer that paid me $17 million to do literally. sub-nothing. True. I think he knows he robbed them. So, and I'm not giving Ken. What a man of conscience he is. This is a man that was arrested at a Hoboken car wash one.

So I'm not going to, like, give him too much credit. But I think he was basically shutting his mouth because he knows he got away with a felony robbery. Let's be honest. Any other thoughts? Not on that. All right. And finally, you've covered Kenny and a. And finally, yes, I made a joking reference to it earlier.

WEEEI, one of the leading radio networks in the Boston area. Greg, I know you were a big fan growing up. No, I despised the E.I. Wow. I mean, I don't think it was even, I don't think it was even popular. I don't think it was even popular. We didn't even get a EI, I think, in Western Mass anyways. But it was just like the most.

Wasn't even an option. It was like the most stereotypical sports talk. Like the world is ending. fire everyone. Everyone is terrible. And I think it's, like, bad for the Boston sports fan. You got me thinking about it. Friends in media circles. Yes.

I don't care. It's a joke. Most of the shows on the I are terrible. That's a popular take. You're far from alone and thinking that it's a lot of people say the Boston sports radio market is toxic in a lot of ways. And a young DJ for EEI made a hypercritical comment of Tom Brady's five-year-old daughter in that based off her cameo in the Tom versus Time Facebook series

and Tom responded and you know read between the lines here fellas and lady and other lady Tom could have could have had his agent call EEI this week

and say we're not doing the show and we're going to have to think about it no no no Tommy went on EEI for his scheduled appearance and then told them hey you disrespected my girl and good for Tommy I have to think if I'm ever going to do your show again,

which is an atomic blunder for that radio station. Like you are losing the best quarterback of all time because some dude thought it would be like funny or edgy to make fun of a little girl. And so I just want to say, and Wes, you know, I'm going to need you for this. Mark, I'm going to need you. Okay.

I'm going to. I'm in. I need you to be the closer on this. Okay. I don't know what I'm agreeing to. A formal pitch to Tom Brady. to come on the Around the NFL podcast and make us your new home for Friday weekly hits.

We make the Around the NFL podcast home and do not get, yeah, don't get caught up that we're associated with the NFL directly and they try to ruin your career in your mind on some level or sell it to a disastrous degree. No, we'll treat you right. Will you play the game of throne, the throne, what is it? Oh my God, Throne of E's.

No, I would think we'll keep it real, but first of all, we're not going to assault your family. Right. Right. B, we will not take cheap shots at you on any level. No, I think if you go back and listen to the archives, you'll find almost entirely pro-patriots coverage.

I mean, the host of the show loves the team and supports your excellence. He's never thought that you were going to go downhill. I know a lot of people out there in the media thought there might be a decline at some point. He believes you're still headed up. Well, I think Brady believes said at every age. You evolve, you keep evolving, and we've evolved out of, I would say don't listen to our past shows. That's not going to help the case here. Let's start fresh.

Got a couple dads in the room. If anyone took shots at our five, six, seven-year-old kids, we would cancel our engagements with them immediately. We get where Brady's coming from, ditch that radio station that Greg despises, and come hang with us. And Brady, by the way, said he doesn't want that DJ fired. I thought that was big of Brady. That was, I mean, you know, that guy's on, he's in a tough place. He said, yeah, he said that would be the, I like that he's a DJ now. He's, like, spinning a record.

How about what if we can't get Brady? We get the DJ on with a son of weekly basis. Definitely get him. You know, Tom's got a five-year-old girl. I've got a six-year-old girl. We have a lot in common. I've got a five-year-old boy. Maybe the Sessler family and the Brady family, you know, link for generations to go.

Colleen, once upon a time, was a five-year-old girl. Yeah, I was. So all this. A lot of ties. It's connecting in a beautiful way. So, Tom, we'll treat you right. Come on home. I think the only time I speak to shadowy league figures about the podcast in the last five years,

I like to let you and Greg handle all this. Oh, it's fun, yeah. The only time I say anything is don't put athletes on our show. I would make an exception for Tom Brady. For the best quarterback ever. That's good. Different than an actual, like an icon of American culture. Yeah, we should do that.

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It shows progress on some level that we have a hotel room specifically geared for this show. Slumber parties. Room 402. Carlian, you want a third pillow here? We do have lots. And the problem, though, is that they didn't, we're doing another show on Thursday, but they didn't book a room for Wednesday. So guess who gets banged?

Old Lindsay Fault time. That's to pack all this stuff up, move out of the room, and then come back to a new room. So next year, you know, just get us a room for the whole week. We'll make it kind of like turn into our own, like, green room for the show. That's progress. Right, because we might call ourselves heroes, but we're not going to help Lindsay clean up the room or do anything like that. I got to wait for a ride home. Yeah, yeah.

I got dinner plans right after the show. Can I sleep in here tonight? You actually could put in the extra time, but the reward is you are now part of our. promotional materials for the next five years because we had we had a beautiful Photoshop photo shoe at the old timey photo booth or store in the mall you can check out our our Twitter timeline we'll put out some football pictures tomorrow we had some what is it steam punk pictures today yeah and now you're it's that's history I know it's worth it and even better Colin you've met a lot of great people from

Minnesota a ton of awesome people all right everybody is really nice here so West Wes wrote a banger. Let's take into it. And the crux of the piece, Wes, I'll set you up here, it was that Belichick is Bill Belichick, the head coach of the Patriots, is widely viewed as one of the top head coaches of all time. But what he doesn't get enough credit for is his ability to continually build a strong team around his,

around his incredible Hall of Fame quarterback. So as a personnel man, so Wes rode a banger titled Patriots's. It's posthum of the top 10 personnel moves of the Bill Belichick era. So Wes, set the table for you, buddy. Eat, baby. Well, there's a few things going on here with Belichick as team builder. First of all, I think he understands that it's not the best 53 is the right 53 every year. So he churns the roster.

he also as a team builder has a unique competitive advantage of the most job security in the league. So a lot of his trades and signings come from taking chances on guys that other coaches and GMs would have their hands tied by the owner or by anybody above them on taking chances. So right off the bat, those are, to me, that's the background on Belichick as team building. It's a great point that last part that you said that ultimately he's the decision maker and that cuts out a lot of red tape. And I think that's why they are good at not keeping their mistakes. Whereas GMs want to, no, we get, you know, this second round.

He makes almost as many mistakes as any other personnel guy. But what I think he does is after the fact he evaluates them more correctly. Like, okay, okay, this is how I can use this guy? No, this was a waste. How many second round, you know, cornerback picks have they wasted? But he gives up on it quickly because he's not trying to, you know, protect it to make his picks. Well, and also mistakes don't look as bad when you're going, and I'm not saying this in a

flippant way, you're going 12 and 4 and 13 and 3 every year versus a 3 and 13 team. They made a catastrophic draft mistake, and it's got to be pinned on one or two scapegoats, and they're fired. Well, that comes from having the infrastructure. It's like the Spurs in the NBA, when you had Popovich and Tim Duncan for two decades. You have that infrastructure where you build around them and mistakes don't hurt you. When you've got Brady and Belich, Brady is a mistake reducer. It doesn't matter as much when you have him.

I think what Belichick does so well is surround himself with good, smart, talented people, like in terms of the scouting department and everybody else in that front office and everybody around him, the coordinators, that is such a well-run organization top to bottom. And that's why he gets the credit that he always gets to. He coaches all the personnel guys and the coaches too. It's like people think Patricia McDaniels leaving is going to kill them. And I think he's known who's going to replace them for a couple years. I mean, he has those guys, and he's been grooming them on the staff.

And they get groomed on both sides of the ball. They aren't just niche specialists like they are in other organizations. They learn how to do multiple jobs. And I'm surprised more organizations don't do that. And one of the things I think he was a little ahead of the game on in terms of personnel, and I think the league is moving that way, and the Eagles are a great example, is everything should be short-term. Like short-term contracts, short-term just change everything year-based.

by year. If you look back at what he did, especially in the early part of last decade, like he wasn't about getting into five, six year real commitments. He's trying to change things really year by year and not worry as much about continuity. Outside of it, like Adelius Thomas. But I, and I, people can look at your list so we can dig into it. But he is specializes in fleecing teams that he cannot stand and fleecing teams that are disorganized and sacks of dung. I mean, like, it's the Jets over and over. He like got Randy Moss from a bad Raiders team, Akeeb to leave from the Bucks,

Wes Welker from the Dolphins. They couldn't self-scout West Welker the way that the Patriots could. I mean, it's like one case after the other of him fleecing teams and teams he cannot stand. It's like, I mean, it's not exactly like fantasy football, but when you play fantasy football, if you're the best owner of the league,

you take advantage of the worst owners in the league, the ones who aren't prepared, and you offer them a bunch of garbage names for actual good players. do five for one deals. That's what Belichick does with teams like the Browns. I love what the write-up about the Randy Moss trade, where Lane Kiffin had to be corrected by Al Davis at the time because he was going to get fleeced even more than they were for what, a fourth round pick for Moss in the end? It was going to be a six. It was going to be a six, and Al Davis stepped in and accused

Belichick of taking advantage of Lane Kiffin. And I can just imagine that conversation with I mean, Belichick like the cat who ate the canary. And Al Davis comes up and sees him physically eating the canary. Randy Moss is Wes's number one, spoiler alert, which you might find ironic if you're a real football fan because that is one move that did not bear any fruit of a Lombardi kind type. I mean, it bore the fruit of having the best offensive season in NFL history. It did that. But, I mean, a lot of these other moves that you have in list, in fact, pretty much all of them, maybe Wes Welker excluded, led to guys that collected rings along the way. You know, that hurt me a little bit. He said that Belichick fleece the jets.

Well, he made a great point that the, and this is, you know this. They did, it's not news to you, but in one, in the course of like a week, they lost Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick. That's like a- In a 24-hour period. It's incredible. I mean, Robert Kraft fleece the Jets there, yeah, for sure. But that's just life. And that's your Jets talk for the Super Bowl week. Got it.

That reminded me when you said the Bucks fleecing them, the list is so long, and you did a great job. Corey Dillon is number five. You had Mike Rable as number four. It reminded me of a buck stray that that was so great and didn't even make this list. Legerrett Blunt for future Olympian Jack star, Jeff Demp. How many posts did we write about Jeff Dembs back in the day? He's so fast.

He like essentially never materialized. Let's calm down with the speed angle. I know it was the end of his career, but Junior Seo, who people wrote off, came into New England and played, I think, four seasons for them. That's a guy. Rob Ninkovich didn't start with New England. They brought him in.

I mean, it's like there are, for all these, like, failures, there's these incredible. Super Bowl 42 Junior Seals' last NFL game, the Giants' Haldi Catch game. I think it might have been. It's a tough way to go out. There are dozens of Junior Seowls that you could have put on this list. They're a chick taking chances on guys when the rest of the league thinks they're washed up. And on this list, I used Rodney Harrison for that category. And that's kind of what I liked about this project.

There's, like, ten different categories. of Belichick moves, and you just use one guy as the model for that category. Because plenty of times it's like a Kenny Britt signing or Michael Floyd, which is basically last year, which is no risk. And in a perfect world, it could be a big time high reward. And they know the team is good enough around in the kind of organization that it's not like Kenny Britt's going to come in here and mess anything up. You can just take a look, see what happens.

If it doesn't work, no one's ever going to remember. But you learn they're not infallible when, like, Albert Haynesworth didn't go there and have two Pro Bowl seasons. That would have, I think, driven fans of every other team literally nuts. It's like he's still a mess there. They signed Hainsworth and Ocho Cinco within hours of each other. Right. Set back the organization. I mean, that was the worst little era or run of the Belichick era was like here.

I got it. It's good, Dan. Good contribution to that conversation right there. Twin beds. Right there with you. That's fired. He's upset about the Minnesota people. Hey, listen, I got a whole city on my back and me.

You're going to go on a teaching Friday. I'm in on that, too. My favorite new recurring segment on the show is subtext between Dan and Mark. You just find out. I guess it's not that new. I like open warfare between Greg and Mark. I don't know. I'm trying to get comfortable.

Greg, you're making everyone uncomfortable. Greg, please sit down. Yeah, that's uncomfortable. We can move on to Greg's quarterback list. But I did want to mention Dionne Lewis. and Danny Amandula, two guys in the Super Bowl. They made it. We're outstanding pickups.

And Amindola early in his Patriots career was injured quite a bit. And Edelman Rose, as Amandola was falling around that time. But he's been a terrific signing. He's lasted half a decade there. And Dionne Lewis signed a reserve future contract after sitting out the entire 2014 season. He was freely available to everyone. He's become one of the most valuable players in the team. And he was initially went to Cleveland on a very good trade, I thought, for the Browns.

and then the Browns shift regimes, and the next regime has no concept of Dionne Lewis, so there he goes. Michael Lombardi brought him to New England. There you go, Mark. Lombardi, he did it. It's for Michael Lombardy. If you made, like, a top 10 most cold-blooded,

almost jerkish moves that have worked out well for the Patriots, it's forcing Danny Amandola to take pay cuts in like three straight off seasons before he wins you or gets you to a third Super Bowl. I mean, his legacy, it's bizarre how valuable and important, Amandola has been to them in the Super Bowl era. And, okay, so check it out NFL.com slash whistling to read that. And Greg wrote a top 60 quarterbacks of the Super Bowl era.

In fact, you ranked every guy that started a game or appeared in a game. It was any quarterback that started a Super Bowl, including Nick Falls, who technically hasn't. How did you rank them? It was very, you know, time-consuming. Dice Roll. Dembschek is furious with you about this. He has not stopped talking about it. You know what?

A lot of people were furious with Damashek's list when he tried a similar exercise a couple years ago. Yeah. That's what happened. Oh, is that the, did he do something similar to this? No, he did some. Speaking of subtext. Shocking that Damashik had Perry Brancho is like to make something.

No, he really likes it. He's very passionate about it. Given that, he cares. No, I don't take any offense. He essentially was promoting it with his seven tweet straight storm about what I got wrong with it. So I was fine with that. It was good.

But I basically looked at who had the best career. And to me, I think you can judge a quarterback better in 16 game regular season increments. And playoffs obviously matter. But at some point, then you get to a position if you really are valuing the playoffs that, like, Eli Manning is better than Dan Marino or Trent Dilfer is better than some other quarterback that's never even appeared in a Super Bowl. And I don't think that's fair. You have to look at the context around it.

So I really kind of valued, was he one of the best two or three quarterbacks in the league in a given year? What kind of all pro teams did he make? Was he a top five quarterbacks in a given year? Was he top ten? I looked at kind of like the statistical yards per attempt, stuff like that. What if he didn't start the whole season? Well, this was their whole career. So it was like who had the whole.

It wasn't really a bet. If you started a game, you made the Super Bowl season. You made the list, but it's just who had the best career. So a guy like Dan Marino still ends up number five, even though he only made one. out of you, Greg. I thought you were going to be petty and bury Eli and put him at like number 58 and then be like, oh, he was never great

for more than one season, all that stuff. But is it, you know, you have him in the fun to watch, which is like, you know. Eli's really not. Although he was in the 2011. All right, so you did a poor job at the list then you're saying. Well, everyone else in that group, it was kind of a fun to watch. But he's also... You know, you make seven tiers. You just got to make some names. No, but I'm

just, it is interesting to note, although you have him at 29, that he's, and you have two in one, two and with the Giants and two of the most iconic wins for the organization in their history because they both came over Belichick and Brady. Everyone else on the list lost their one Super Bowl appearance with the exception of Russell Wilson.

So I don't know. I feel like my only equivalent to list is that maybe he goes up a tier just because the level that he achieved in the Super Bowl itself, but that's fine. Yeah, because on Eli Manning, I understand that there's differences in the room about Eli Manning, but what is the credibility given to someone that didn't miss a game?

for like a decade plus. That's kind of amazing. Especially with that offensive line. That's why he's as high as he is. He's higher than guys like Joe Thaisman or Phil Sims or Jaworsky or Bletsup. Who actually all of those. Ken Anderson is a much better quarterback. And that was what was fun about this exercise was kind of figuring out who, at least I

thought, were maybe underrated or I didn't realize had such great careers. Ken Anderson seems like maybe the most underrated quarterback that's. not in the Hall of Fame, the quarterback that should be in the Hall of Fame. Darryl Lomanooga was another guy that stood out to me. Bob Greasy, people like to trash on, but if you just look at his numbers year after year, it's pretty incredible. And if you look at Eli, I mean, look, he's ahead of all those guys like Jaws and Bledso, who are in the top five in the league a lot more often than Eli Manning was.

By the way, I would much rather have Steve McNair than Eli Manning. Right, and he's ahead of McNair. And Jim Plunkett, who won two Super Bowls is way down on the list of 41. It shows you to me because, and I think the challenge, we can get into this, but we're all of a certain age where we did not watch some of these quarterbacks live. So that's the challenge. Well, but we're at an age difference

where my childhood was imbued with John Elway. I mean, it was like he was the villain of my child, but then I grew to respect him when he won those late Super Bowls. And at Fairstores, I was like, what's he doing at number nine? But then it's like, no, you're right. He fits at number nine, and it reminds you how many wonderful quarterbacks we've had a chance to watch over the years.

But Elway is not a statistical quarterback. He was a magician who did incredible stuff and Steve Young is sort of the same way but he was by the end his stats were out of control. Elway was someone that you put the ball in his hand with five minutes to go in the game. I don't care what's happening. You had a belief that he was going to get it

done. He was hurt by losing those early Super Bowls but the way he finished his career is pretty incredible. The first eight guys in this list, the eight guys ahead of John Elway, what they all have in common is that at some point in their career they all begged the question is he playing the position at the highest level

it's ever been played. Tom Brady, John United States, Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Brett Farv, Steve Young, and Aaron Rogers. Goat Pasture. I like that. I like that category. Goat Pasture. This is a nice. Nicely done, Greg. I think Elway, after his career was over, a lot of people would have him in the top five rather than nine. But I don't think when he was playing, anyone ever said he's the best to ever do it. No, I just found him. He was just fascinating to watch. To me, like, growing up in the 80s, everybody knew Marino was better than Elway. But then after their careers was over because Elway went to the Super Bowls, people lumped him over Marina.

Yep. And apologies to Rex Grossman. Bringing up the rear at number 60. Someone had to do it. Somebody had to put it. I did hear a lot of, Tony Easton's like, yes. I heard from a lot of people, though, Bears fans that were like, come on, David Woodley, didn't he be? I don't know.

Tony Easton, I mean, he's like, I get why he's down here, but Tony Easton was a bit of a workman-like quarterback. He wasn't a disaster. He only started like 10 more games after. the Super Bowl and he only was a starter for about two seasons. I gave credit to like, did you even play? And he didn't have a lot of that. Rex Grossman is like, he is not left. Nick Foles, three spots higher.

Nick Folles is 57 right now. He has a chance to move up with a nice Sunday. That's pretty low, but I get it. Rex Grossman has not left his man cave since seeing this article. His wife's like, honey, are you going to come upstairs? You said you were going to grill? Not yet.

Rosenthal banged me. I mean, what? Him getting slashed just like a non-entity quarterback in the Super Bowl is a new thing for him it's got I would yeah but he's up 60 60 60's rough

because you don't get a lot of top 60 list for Super Bowl stuff it's hard to come back from that yeah he was ended take out no grilling

so that was brutal I mean he's got a great nickname smashes the grill sexy Rexy yeah NFL dot com slash Rosenthal

to see that full list I unpublished the article actually a few minutes oh you did okay so if you could find the cashade version and to the gentleman out there, the huge Joe Cap fan that says he should be 47 instead of 53.

Back off Joe Cap guy. Whoa. Thank you very much here with NFL.com's Greg Rosenthal. The NFL.com. The NFL.com. The NFL.com. The NFL.com's Greg Rosenthal. Keep you in that box, man.

You know, some... Joe Cap, Bonwold of the Vikings, another shot by Greg at Minnesota. I'm shot by most of you in this room in Minnesota. Settle down. They're nice people. Most drops kind of come and go. They each have their own life. They kind of die naturally,

but that one persists. Amber Theo Harris could not be more excited that it's still floating out there, generating the tweets she gets. Are you guys messing with me? She's a good sport about it. Great sport. All right.

What was that was? I got nothing. All right, here you go. That's it. That's the Tuesday. show from the hotel room schedule people have been asking for the schedule oh i got to go i have a meeting can i say one real quick thing yes go ahead we and we're going to enjoy this for super bowl week we received from a incredible listener christopher watjean who is a big fan of west a hundred dollar

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And they just shot beers to us. I'm insane. The Shadow League figures are on, they're on their heels because a lot of alcohol and alcohol funds have been shipped our way. Or funds for whatever. Public radio, they have their telethons every once in a while. You spend

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And another shout out to the elder Sessler, right? Oh, yeah. My dad had surgery today. Hip replacement surgery is doing well, but he listens to the show. He's a listener. They do. They watch all our NFL network. Devin Keith, they retired.

They listened to all the podcasts now as well. I found out they watched every one of our Pickham episodes, and I tried to describe it. Some were good. Others were a bit wanting, but they, you know, their parents, so they were supportive no matter. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. My mom listens to every show. Shout out to Debbie, so that's good. Colleen, what's your dad's name?

Ed. So is mine. That's crazy. What a popular name in, like, the 1940s. My dad's name is Ed, too. Well, his brother is. Really? There's an Ed Hansis.

So you're, oh, my God. Well, good luck to all the ads. Wait, it's getting weird. It was like 40. Close it out. 40%. No, I'm sorry. Sorry.

Oh, damn it. No, Edward Rosenthal. Weird. There's got to be an Ed Rosenthal. I'll Google search Ed Rosenthal as we close out here. Unfortunately, yeah. Take a picture of Greg and Ed Rosenthal. He's like, Greg's hiding this man's identity.

There is. Actually, the first thing that comes up, Ed Rosenthal's site growing cannabis. Well, there's a lot of Rosenthal's. Oh, wow. Unfortunately, that side of the family kind of taken out by the Holocaust. So we got Tom and we got it down a little bit, Greg. It was a rough word.

It was history. You know, it's just fact. Do you want to talk about the opioid epidemic while we're here? Well, now that you say that, I did notice. How about some 9-11 talk? In the bathroom at the mall, they have a box where you can put your dirty syringes in every bathroom at the Mall of America. It's like, you know, to be safe. I was thinking that's for like diabetes.

Yeah, that's pretty standard. They have that in our work bathroom too. I thought that was only for places that had opioid epidemic. Born 32. Greg projected. Really endearing yourself to all the Minnesotans. All right. Get off the crank, Minnesota.

All right. We'll be back on Thursday. So, yeah, we'll have a Thursday. Late Thursday of the show will go up. That will be our Thursday Super Bowl preview. Well, we'll break it all down. Of course, Sunday night after the game. We will be doing a recap that night.

So make sure you hit refresh on your podcast app of choice. Don't even have to. It's kind of like an auto. Well, if people subscribe. If you don't subscribe, you know, what's your problem? And the Tuesday thing that we shot the video show and all the shenanigans in the mall today, pretty silly, but we had a good time. And you may like it. It might be horrible.

We'll see. No, you're going to love it. Erica Tamposi does great work, the loose cannon. So she's going to be pulling it together. That's going to go up late Friday on the website. So a lot of stuff coming your way. Feeding sharks. There was a lot of dogs.

That event nearly killed us, so please watch it. Yeah, so, but until Thursday, Dan Hans is signing off for The Quiet Storm, The Mailman, Tiny Box, the old boss, and Lindsay Fulton behind, well, next to me on the bed. That's how it works. Until Thursday. That works. This is an I-Heart podcast.