NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Team Slogans 2022 with Conor Orr

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you all the latest news from around the league, starting with the passing of Hall of Fame broadcaster Vin Scully (4:...24). The Broncos will be without Tim Patrick this season (7:55), the Cardinals and DJ Humphries agreed to an extension (11:55), and we celebrate Tom Brady’s 45th birthday (16:34). After the break, Conor Orr joins the show (21:25) for the return of Team Slogans! We pitch multiple slogans for every single team in alphabetical order, starting with the Arizona Cardinals (25:00). Favorites include the Cincinnati Bengals (32:01), the Denver Broncos (37:54), the Kansas City Chiefs (45:15), the LA Rams (48:41), the New York Jets (55:56), and the Pittsburgh Steelers (58:32). Note: timecodes approximateNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:33 Mark Sassler. Mark, how is your tennis career going? We haven't heard much. You were dominant against children and your wife, but where are we at now? That was a spot start. There's been very little action since. We have a sort of a ramshackle tennis court up the street from where we live, but it's under construction right now.
Starting point is 00:01:53 The entire park that it's attached to is under construction. So the civic... The civic angle of it has shut down my career. It's not my issue. I'm very determined personally. I've played multiple times this week with my son Walker, and I'm really training him with Mark and mine. I want to get him good enough to beat Mark.
Starting point is 00:02:10 And now he's a regular listener of the podcast, which is a big change. He's a seven-year-old. He likes podcasts. That is a big change. He just started listening about a week or two ago, and he's very into it. And I don't know if it's going to change what I say on the podcast, but just saying hi to watch. Sometimes we have adult topics, but one topic he'll definitely appreciate is him destroying Mark and tennis in about a year.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I think I need a minute. I need another year. Come find me on any court in Santa Monica, any court in Venice, any court in California. I love this. And now the provocateur in me is trying to think about how can we set up some type of live event where Mark plays against Greg's by then eight-year-old son. That would be very exciting. No, no peace here. This would be the war on.
Starting point is 00:02:57 the court. What do they call it? The bat... What's like a term? Courts of thunder. Court clash. Court. I don't know. I think what it ultimately will be is like...
Starting point is 00:03:09 Hell on clay. It's like the movie King Richard, except the end is just my son can beat Mark, not, you know, become transformative Grand Slam champions, the greatest star? You're the Will Smith's role in that one, apparently. Right. Okay. Greg's always seen him as a Will Smith type.
Starting point is 00:03:27 All right. Hey, how about the Oscars? Okay. All right. So, today is Hump Day. Uh-oh. Here we go. Is this good or bad?
Starting point is 00:03:38 Depends on your perspective on life. I think it's good. I think it's also good that Connor Orr is joining us today. Always good. I think it's good. This is our third show this week. It's our training camp. We're getting our reps in.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Absolutely. And Connor is going to join us for one of my favorite. favorite recurring, well, it's only the second one, but as of this afternoon, it will be a recurring segment in every summer. Team slogans, 2022, around the NFL. It's now tied flashpoints in terms of its episodic quantity. How about, let's circle back to that. Remember when Greg tried to sidestwipe it?
Starting point is 00:04:15 I totally do I think about it all the time. What is that? And I was thinking about the other thing with Gregi, he's brought up a couple times like the connection you and I have. Yeah. I think that's a subtle way to try to drive a wedge as well by kind of calling attention into it in some type of weird way. Why are you always causing trouble?
Starting point is 00:04:31 You're reading into it. I think it's mostly that your chairs face each other and mine kind of face the hallway. But you're just often staring into each other's eyes. And I picked up on after a month and a half, everyone's happy to be together. I think we all are as a threesome, but your eyes, when they meet,
Starting point is 00:04:48 there's just a little more crackling in the air. The way that we used to sit when it was me here on the edge, Wes, you and then Greg. That would often happen with Greg and I. I do think there's something to what he's saying strategically. That's true. Me and Mark used to kind of stare at each other during the show, too. But also...
Starting point is 00:05:02 I do like staring at you, Greg. And yet again, yet again, without getting into specifics before the show, Greg was explaining a conflict he found himself in with a shadowy-le-league figure. That was months old. And it's just like maybe we need somebody for Greg to lock eyes with, I guess is what I'm saying. So he could get away from these things that cause the drive divisions. I think it's healthy. Well, we'll just plant someone out.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Fuck you, Greg. Plant someone out in the hallway outside of the Chris Wesleyan podcast. Just like stare at you. Just to stand there in a very creepy manner. All right. Before we get to Mr. Orr, let us get to the latest news. Montana, looking, looking, throwing in the end zone. Mark caught it.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Dwight Clark. It's a madhouse at Candleston. with 51 seconds left. Ah, yes, Joe Montana to Dwight Clark in the 1981 NFC title game, and yes, on the call. The great and now sadly late, Vince Scully, who passed away on Tuesday at the age of 94. Talk to anybody that's worked in a booth,
Starting point is 00:06:18 anybody that grew up listening to this man call, not just football games, especially baseball games, and really all different kinds of sports throughout an incredible six-decade-plus career. He's the best to ever do it. So losing Vin Scully, especially for people, and all three of us are transplants, but especially if you live in Southern California
Starting point is 00:06:40 because Vin Scully was born in the Bronx, the same borough of New York City, where my dad's from, but he quickly caught on with the Brooklyn Dodgers, made the move across country to L.A. and called every Dodger game. is impossible to wrap your head around, especially because football by its nature is a different sport. All this talk about, you know, who's the three-man booth here? Who's going to mesh with this guy in this booth? How many millions of dollars? Vin Scully for half a century sat in a booth at
Starting point is 00:07:11 Dodgers Stadium solo and played music with his stories and his voice and his folksy wisdom, as you always hear, connected to him and to all the Dodgers fans and every baseball fans and sports fans, yes, this was a tough loss. I listened to an incredible interview he had with Dan Patrick. It's from a long time ago, but they were playing it this morning. And he talked about the fact that, you know, would he fit in today? If he came out of the blue today, I mean, technically and from his voice angle and his ability to do it, yes, but he was also just from a very special time. I mean, the amount of, like, historical Dodgers knowledge, he sat and announced Jackie Robinson way back in the day. And I think you're so right about the idea that even doing
Starting point is 00:07:52 radio with two or three other people would be tough. But to narrate baseball games, and we're talking like 160 of them plus a year, day after day with the storytelling ability, like there's no one else like him. And I'm just comfortable saying there will never be another Vince Scully. And we're lucky enough to, I've been here for 18 years. I have a lot of memories of just watching him do his work. Right. When I lived here the first time around right out of college, I got super into the Dodgers because
Starting point is 00:08:19 I was really into baseball at the time. And I just started watching every game. And Vince Scully was the reason why. I mean, the mayor of the city said that, you know, his passing is the end of a chapter of the city's history. And I just, I know there's important broadcasters and what they mean to their local cities. But Scully and L.A. is sort of unmatched.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Next level. Next level. Rest in peace. Vin Scully, a life well lived. Let's get to the news. Do we mean as much to Los Angeles, the three of us? Why would I ask that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:52 At this point, it feels a little early. It feels a little early to ask that question. We did a nice button up. You're bringing in the irreverence, which is fine. That's what we do. The answer is no. But maybe in parts of Scotland? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Little pockets? Start somewhere. All right. Let's get to it. Tim Patrick. We talked about it on yesterday's show. The promising wide receiver of the Broncos was carted off the field after twisting his leg
Starting point is 00:09:19 coming down from a crazy leaping catch that according to a dispatch from the practice from Robert Masey of the Athletic and now we get the news that many were hoping would not we would not get but it is what it is because he suffered a torn ACL in Tuesday's practice and you know what that means his season is over
Starting point is 00:09:38 Greg we touched on it yesterday so I don't know how hard we have to go in but he fit what Russell Wilson does well and now the Broncos have to find another path. Right. They really need Cortland Sutton to be Cortland Sutton this year. And I think it was kind of under the radar that he wasn't the guy he normally is. There was a thought maybe Patrick was the best receiver on this team. Certainly last year, but maybe even going
Starting point is 00:10:01 into this year. So you need Sutton to show up. You need Jerry Judy to take that leap. And you would love to see K.J. Hamler, who this week made some news being very open about his mental health and how hard it's been for him coming back from a torn knee that he was thinking of ending his life and he was happy to be back on the field. And now he has a big role on this team. So just not quite as much depth, but just from a team perspective, don't think it's devastating. From Patrick's perspective, it's terrible.
Starting point is 00:10:30 But it's a good thing. He did sign a long-term contract last November with the Broncos. So he will be with them for a while. I think so much what they're going to do is around Melvin Gordon and Javante Williams, too. I think they're very balanced. and it's, I am leery when I hear, and it's not, you know, a constant drumbeat, but Broncos AFC title game, Broncos automatic 12, 13 wins. I mean, a couple more injuries and their offense doesn't look so flashy.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And on top of it, it's been a more of a name offense where you like the potential of Jerry Judy, of Cortland Sutton, of Albert O of KJ Hamler, but they have yet to put it together. They didn't have a quarterback before, though, so that can change things. Yes, and the Broncos, you can absolutely make a case with the Broncos being a big time team this season. But it's the AFC West. And a few things go wrong like you're saying with any of these four teams. And they very quickly, because of the schedule and what a war it's going to be inside that division, your season can fall off a cliff quickly. Yes, a big loss.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Yeah, Denver can survive this. And I must say, hey, less monitoring of Will Fuller, George Payton. We're picking up the phone, call me up and see if we can work out a deal because that might be someone, a guy, a burner, a guy that's a, chunk yard guy, guy that's hungry, the guy that wants it, hey, maybe Will Fuller makes sense. You're taking on this client at the most appropriate time, which again says to me, you've got the instincts for the job. A true outside receiver. I think in a perfect world, Jerry Judy is moving inside and out, a lot of the in-breaking routes where Patrick was really just a pure outside guy. He's not the burner that Fuller is, certainly. We don't need Will to be
Starting point is 00:12:06 running a full complement route tree. We don't need Matt Harmon doing the breakdown of reception perception on will fuller i just need him to go deep and russell wilson as we know from one of our producers on mount rushmore our very large mount rushmore producers td once said russell wilson throws a sexy deep ball go get it will he's right about that in other news the cardinals are spending more money mark wanted to say something because of his relationship with td which is very hot and cold i'm going to give you the floor i did no i i wish td well it's been a while since we've spoken, but, you know, I think that... It was hot and cold.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I kind of forgot about that part of our history. Watch out, Grave Digger. His relationships with the producers. I think Justin's probably already picking up on that. He would needle me in certain ways, and I would respond. I mean, Justin has been an excellent communicator and a hard worker, so things are good. T.D. wasn't afraid to kind of jump in the fray and mix it up, which I appreciated. What's TD up to these days?
Starting point is 00:13:03 I know he's working with LeBron for a while. I don't know if that's still... I think he got a new job. He has a new gig, but he is an executive. That's all I know. Good for him. Another success story. The Cardinals doing more business. Left tackle DJ Humphreys assigned a three-year, $66.8 million extension through 2025.
Starting point is 00:13:21 So the Cardinals, Mark, get a deal done with Kyler. Now they get another deal done with DJ Humphreys, the left tackle. This kind of came out of nowhere. There's not been any hold-in or like a lot of hoopla about DJ Humphreys. They did say last week they wanted to get something done with him. I think for them it's a nice story because, I viewed him early on as kind of a draft bust, and then he went on to become more consistent.
Starting point is 00:13:45 He's played 16, 17 starts three years in a row. He was the fourth best tackle from PFF in 2020. The rest of their line is going to be in transition because Justin Pugh, Rodney Hudson, who wanted to retire, Will Hernandez, Kelvin Beecham, are all in their early 30s, or one of them is 27. I mean, they're going to have to make adjustments there. This is the one guy they can count on.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I guess if you've just gone and done this with Kyler Murray, you don't want to suddenly be looking for a left tackle. I'm not saying he's stellar, but he's who they have right now. It's good to be a tackle. 65307. You know, it's hard to like just become one of them. But if you can, you could be a guy as under the radar as DJ Humphreys and you can get a $66.8 million.
Starting point is 00:14:25 This third deal with them. Extension. Right. Like when he signed the last one, which I'm looking now, it was literally the last Rotter World Post of him was his last contract, which was a three-year $45 million country. I remember at the time it was like, wow, DJ Humphreys is getting a $40.
Starting point is 00:14:38 million dollar contract and look at this he's getting to the end of it and they're giving giving him another i am publishing this very wednesday the top 25 free agents of two 2023 little look ahead of it not a great uh crop in general uh but he would have probably made the top 25 before this this news there there are a couple tackles out there but not much uh interesting i see you know you'll send in the morning the rundown of the news suggesting what we should hit and we usually hit all of it and you have a parent's Parenthetical, open, slammer, question mark, close parenthetical. Do you not like the contract?
Starting point is 00:15:14 Well, it just seemed like, wow, $66.8 million for DJ Humphreys. Not a guy people think of as a top 10 tackle, but that's just, hey, that's, the money itself made it feel like, well, we should talk about any contract that big. Doesn't it feel like this is a team that needs to get off to a quick start to kind of bury some of the drama? They open with the Chiefs, the Raiders, and the Rams. I don't love that. Good luck. No, DeAndre Hopkins. I think, you know, I think the getting the collar deal done, I think kind of.
Starting point is 00:15:38 chilled the drama out a little bit. I think by the time we get to... It just seems like whatever... Unless they go and three, then it's going to be going crazy. And it's different. Anyway, in other news, Tyrone Matthew, the Honey Badger,
Starting point is 00:15:51 he is now with the Saints, practicing with the Saints. He had missed a week of camp to attend to a family matter. But now he joins a secondary in New Orleans that was already strong. And, you know, Greg, we look at the Saints
Starting point is 00:16:07 and we talked about there. high ceiling and low floor and you have a lot of questions about the offense, but the defense looks pretty damn good with Honey Badger a cherry on top. On paper, I believe that they believe they'll be the best defense in the league.
Starting point is 00:16:22 That's sort of the expectations. And that's hard to count on and I think the safety position is interesting. Matthew, there were a lot of whispers of like, what is going on here? So I thought it was just like worth putting it out there that he's back. Because him and Marcus May are maybe similar-ish talents in terms of what they do well.
Starting point is 00:16:40 May is coming off of an injury, so I'm curious how they'll be used. I mean, the one thing is they, Dennis Allen said, we'll welcome them back with open arms and it was a personal matter, so I kind of felt like... Seems like the story's over.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah, I think the story, he's a tried and tested veteran. They didn't need him there at the early part of camp. But, you know, the one thing to your point, Dan, like the reports of you... It almost could have been a whisper yesterday that they're saying that their second team secondary has been like destroying Andy Dalton in practice.
Starting point is 00:17:06 that they are deep at the position, that there is like, I think it's the best secondary in the league. I think the Ravens are up there potentially, but they have a chance to, like, in a pass-happy league, have their defense control. Paul Sin Adibo, their second year cornerback,
Starting point is 00:17:19 who had a nice rookie season as a starter, getting a lot of pop. On paper, they might be the best defense in the league. Tom now. On paper. I know, you're excited. It's good. I don't trust it, though.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I never really trust defenses. All right, Irv Smith Jr., the tight end of the Vikings. Gings has thumb surgery. He's uncertain for week one. So keep an eye on that situation. He's potentially a big part of their offense under Kevin O'Connell, the new coach and play caller. And finally, Tom Brady is now 45 years old.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And the hell is this? This is the song we're picking for Tom Brady. Turn this up with my headphones. Yep, so I got a folder of old drops, and this one was called Happy Birthday. All right, crank it up. I mean, crank it up was not the reaction I was looking for. No, I'm kind of into it. All right, so, oh, you're a backing box?
Starting point is 00:18:28 Is that a gospel choir? It's getting better. That was Tom. Like if Mark ends up in a cult, like if Mark ends up in a cult, cult in his 60s, I could imagine you guys all singing that together every morning. I have one called Happy Birthday Scary. No, we're good. We're good on the birthday stuff, but good production work.
Starting point is 00:18:47 How about the cult comment I made there? I think it's appropriate. I mean, I don't know. Would we believe in birthdays or do you just eschew all that business as you would say? Like every day in this cult is everyone's birthday because everyone is new every morning. We celebrate all of us. That's insane like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:01 We've come from the earth. Anyway, Tom Brady's 45 and we don't have to dwell on this or whatever. Never. Leonard Fournett, because, you know, that's just passage of time. It's a thing. We all know about it. Leonard Fournett sent a photo of a goat's head. He's the greatest of all time. And not only is he the greatest quarterback of all time was a successful, decorated quarterback, football player in the history of our league. He is still, this needs to be reminded. Everybody needs to be reminded, maybe the best quarterback in the league. He turned 45 today. Right. He was my choice for MVP. He is literally the first 45-year-old starting quarterback in NFL history. I know he keeps saying that each and every year that he's the most productive 42-year-old ever. He's the most productive 43-year-old now. But now we've reached the point he's literally the first 45-year-old starting quarterback
Starting point is 00:19:53 in the history of professional football. And guess who's number two right now on that 20-23 free agents list? It's Tom Brady. Who's number one? Lamar, you know, just because of the age. But like Tom Brady, unlike most of the top five to eight, I would say has a realistic chance, I think, of not playing for the bucks and continuing to play football next year.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Considering he was trying to do it this year, we have to assume that there's a chance that he will take advantage of free agency and play elsewhere next year. If that's something that's on a board in Vegas, I would think the dolphins right now would be like, what, three to one favorites? Really? See, now it's almost embarrassing
Starting point is 00:20:37 to go play for the Dolphins. How did he not get punished for this at all? That's a whole other thing. He's been involved in every sort of problematic scenario with the league where they took away first round picks. They've all involved Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:20:49 If I had to guess, I would say... Get the red string out. Everything connects back to the 45-year-old gunslinger. I would say like retirement is more likely than returning to the bucks, which is more likely than playing for another team. But I feel like there's like a decent chance
Starting point is 00:21:01 he's playing for some random team next year. I could see that. Absolutely. Interesting. He called this shot five years ago, by the way. Someone, I think he might enjoy being a free agent again. It is.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And it's, yeah, I think so. And I also think it's a very veteran win now bucks outfit. So if things go sideways this season and they're not feeling or looking so hot in 2023, yeah, I think he would want to, again, handpick a spot that would serve him. He's also like the GM of the Bucks, though. So that's nice. I guess he could be that. And he essentially got the coach fired.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I'm like, let's bring in Kyle Ruda. I don't want to put this bad energy out there. But what if Zach Wilson year two goes the same as Zach Wilson year one? And they have a really good young roster otherwise. The thing is that Tom Brady has said this verbally, he hates the Jets. Oh, please. They all love money. I mean, someone else come pay them more.
Starting point is 00:21:54 If Trey Lance bombs this year. There you go. That's one. They'd give him one year, you think? That's it. That was how they got. Jimmy G. They called up asking for Tom Brady and Bill was like, no, but would you like a Jimmy G? They would probably do that. The Niners would, yeah. Titans. Put the Niners atop the board. The Dolphins. Titans with Mike Rabel. Yeah. Titans were like reportedly in on the pursuit when he went to Tampa Bay. He's going to go to Tennessee. Well, it was in play and theory before. I want this all the keep bubbling up because otherwise this free agent list is kind of blop. And this will be good for spicy. We got to get to Connor. I love Tom Brady. Love you, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:34 You got to get to Connor or. So let's take a break and then hit team slogans, 2022. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL cover zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
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Starting point is 00:23:21 And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game from scouting reports and player development to team-building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers, and share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots, from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig in the coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a die-hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture.
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Starting point is 00:24:35 Whether you're a rookie manager or a fantasy vet, we've got the insight to help you crush your opponents. Listen to the NFL fantasy football podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. Welcome back. Joining us now is, you know, you want to talk about guest Mount Rushmore.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Without a doubt, this man is on it. One of our favorites, a former colleague and now a star over at Sports Illustrated, the MMQB. You know who I'm talking about. Or are you kidding me? Connors back. What's up, everybody? I know Connor, I think, was here while I was out over the summer for a show. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:25:38 That's right. We had some fun with Connor a few months back. I love that our show is such a place in Connor's heart. And I'd be a little worried, frankly, if I was his Sports Illustrated boss, that in the background is like a frame picture from one of our listeners. Like showing what a key character he was when, or you kidding me, was really popping off. in that in that vein i got a bone to pick with you guys before we get started do it here we go um
Starting point is 00:26:07 so if you if you want like calling wolf to come on the show do you text calling wolf or do you have a producer text calling wolf uh we text calling wolf uh we text calling wolf personally yeah okay if you want kevin patrick to come on do you do you text kevin patrick or do you have a producer text kevin patrick we text patria yeah so all right yeah so let's let's not let's not third party me next time Okay, so what you're saying is you don't like Graver. I'm just not one of your bookable guests, you know? I feel like I'm like a, I'm a friend of the show. It's a fair, it's a good part.
Starting point is 00:26:42 You're a best friend of the show. In our defense, I did fly in a couple days ago with a, hey, checking in on Connor. Hey, let's talk about the show. That did come in from me personally. Does that mean anything? That's fair. That's fair. You know, I just want to be treated the way that I deserve to.
Starting point is 00:26:59 We're getting lazy. There are some diva tendencies to what you're saying, Connor. If the follow-up text or contact with Connor also comes from Justin, you'll be talking about slogans with the boys. We'll need 10 to 20 of them. Then I get it. But old Zusser came in. Tugboat came into port and said, hey, let's chop it up.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Let's maybe talk a little Orioles baseball. I didn't get any of that from him either. And then he told me he was too busy to text. So. Oh, Connor, I mean, it sounds like you're at. fault here to some this is there's two sides to this story unfortunately for you um well not unless i bring it up i think dan's lying so let's uh and for new listeners the old zeuser and tugboat they're they're they're not um men uh of the sea uh that we just know that's actually dan talking about
Starting point is 00:27:47 himself i'll let them figure it out context clues figure it out christ save grant Connor last summer um we had a great time with you breaking down the teams of our league And team slogans that best fit where these organizations sit as they enter another year of football. We could not do this exercise without you. So we're very happy to have you join us. So what we're going to do here is spin through the league. Let's go alphabetical order. And anybody that has a slogan, jump in.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Okay? And Connor, of course, you as well as an all-time guest. Let's do it. Are we going alphabetical by city? Or by nickname. We're going to go alphabetical by city. I hope that doesn't mess with anyone. That's actually how I formatted mine.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And I'm stunned that that's how this is occurring. Not me. I'm in a world of her right. Hang in there, Greg. Let's get going with the Arizona Cardinals. Connor, do you have anything for the cards? Yeah, I was thinking, you know, you're going to have to say it the right way, but something like, get to class.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Arizona Cardinals, 22, 22, get to class. I like that. I like that playing off the Kyler Merger. issue. I have something similar. Claws out. So you have the claws of the Cardinal, but also the claws itself. Oh, that is good. That's nice. On the promotional materials, I don't know how. Maybe you have the X through the U.S.E and then just make it like a claw.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I think that's it. I think some Cardinals fan out there should actually make that. I can't match it, but mine is it is our call of duty to win the Super Bowl. I. Video games. I am realizing that I am remembering last year that I maybe did not understand the slogans as well as you guys but here's mine. Disorganized in the desert,
Starting point is 00:29:37 you would be too if your bloodstream was utterly awashed with utopian forming peyote straight from the personal collection of Carlos Castanita. I think that Cardinals strike me as very... This is the same thing as last year. They're very disorganized. Don't try to make a point after it. Let it sit.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Well, it's a slogan. How about just we get disorganized in the desert, question mark? The slogan should be disorganized. should more or less stand on its own. Once you say it, everybody goes. Disorganize in the desert, large font, and then there would be some font underneath. I've got some longer ones just as a changeup,
Starting point is 00:30:06 but I don't know if you want that as your. All right. How about the Atlanta Falcons? Anybody. I have one. Some things in life must simply be tolerated. Yeah, okay. See, I went with a similar one.
Starting point is 00:30:20 This is actually a quote from Andy Warhol. He said, you need to let the little things that would ordinarily bore you suddenly thrill you. That's very good. I like that. I like that. I decided I wanted to play off a very interesting press conference by Dean Peas, the defensive coordinator.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Let's play a little to that grave digger. We're changing a culture around this day going place. And it's not going to be mediocre. It's not going to be average. It's not going to be in the bottom half of the league like it's been 15 out of the last 20 years. Sick of that crap. We got to take charge. And it ain't going to be anybody else to do it, but us.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Okay? I'm tired of everybody telling us how bad we are. Because after a while, you start believing it. Just like you tell you, you never tell your children and stuff like, hey, you guys, you know, you're getting mad at a teacher who says, you know, telling some kid he's stupid, right? You don't ever tell somebody that because pretty soon they start believing it. Guys around here on defense sometimes believe, hey, 15th is okay or whatever. I've been in the top 10 one time out of the last 20 years. That's catching.
Starting point is 00:31:23 How about that? Atlanta Falcons. Don't call our kids stupid. I'm glad we heard that. I do throw one in here. Just trying to change the subject almost if you do the Falcons is, you know, honestly it doesn't look great. But have you even heard about those sex robots? Oh, so it's more like a just change of subject situation?
Starting point is 00:31:49 Just change the subject. Like the technology that's going on right now, it's crazy. It's crazy. How about the Baltimore Ravens? Greg, I know you have something for the Ravens. I absolutely do. We all did our homework. I got multiple ones.
Starting point is 00:32:02 But this one's just simple. Oh, you made Lamar mad, didn't you? Oh, okay. The Lamar Army is strong with the... Lamar's going to be better because everyone's so mean to them. Similarly, it would be just like Lamar is going to fuck you up.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah, what do you have, Mark? I have Edgar Allan Poe, never watched a second of pro football, but we've chosen to co-opt his poem, which he wrote in the middle of a brown liquor-fuel depression in order to cook up our bird mascot. This is kind of like a Damashek bit that he wasn't, like, that Po wasn't really from there
Starting point is 00:32:38 and that the poem doesn't make sense. Well, it's also factual, but... Poe was from Baltimore, I thought. I'm just claiming he was not a pro football fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, as far as I've gone with it. All right, you got one, Connor? Yeah, I got, well, I have two, the first one is, now the least creepy team in the division.
Starting point is 00:32:58 That's good. That's it. And then just stunningly competent. Yeah, well, I think that puts a bow on it. How about the Buffalo Bills? This one is, I'll just throw it out there. What possibly could go wrong? I have something very similar.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Mine is run the same party line here. When literally everyone assumes you're barnstorming into the Super Bowl, it's bound to happen without a single hiccup. See, the only problem with this is people want to be like repeating these slogans over and over all year. I got a few shorter ones. You wanted to be like in the locker room on the wall that you tap when you go in. You want it to be on the media guide. Mine was the exact same as Dan, but with a preamble.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Just Super Bowl or bust. What could go wrong? Connor? It's too similar to even verbalize at this point. Carolina Panthers. My body, my rules. I like it. I don't know what it means, but I love it.
Starting point is 00:33:58 We're going to fire everybody. How about pick again? I mean, this is your team, Connor. You know, keep pounding is one of the most successful team slogans of the last two decades. Yeah, give us one, Connor. Not to put you on the spot. Give us one. Please.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Well, that was what I had written down is we're going to fire everybody. No, no, no. Give us a keep pounding. Just give me a greatest. It's hit. Of course. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Kay found it. I like there's a large segment of our listeners that do not like that. That's why I need to keep coming back. Picture again, the media guide. And it's Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold back to back, arms crossed, looking at the camera in a fierce manner. Imagine it was 2018, though. Chicago Bears. The one I had something for this
Starting point is 00:34:53 It's similar in vain to changing the subject Make a weekend of it And then you just have like Wrigley Field The Riverboat Architecture Tour Nightlife, the hot dogs The mirror sculpture thing Just kind of play that up more I'm not topping that one with what I had
Starting point is 00:35:10 So I think you've nailed that That's strong I just realized I forgot about the entire NFC North But hey If you went an alphabetical order by city You would not have done that Got one, Connor? Just Robert Quinn.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Like, that's kind of going to be there, you know. Hey, that's our best player. That's not bad. This one weirdly stumped me, so if someone could step up with the Cincinnati Bengals. I have, this definitely won't go to our heads. I had something similar, actually. This one, I just, I think it's good to bring enthusiasm sometimes. So it's just like, Joe and Joe and Chase and T.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Roar. All right. I like that. How about you, Connor? I have, uh, enjoy it while you can. This shit's expensive. Another. That's great.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Well, another one, um, because I think you could just, yeah, this is something I think Mike Brown might actually do is just like, win one for Mike Brown. I like that. I like how you can based on what our slogans are, you could guess collectively what we think they're team records to be. That sounds like a nine and eight breakdown. Oh, no. My first one was more of a 13 and 4, just like we're partying.
Starting point is 00:36:25 All right. Cleveland Browns. Connor, erstwhile Browns fan yourself at this point. Where are we at? No, it's over. We've shipped out all the merchandise. We replaced one of my kids had a Browns bear. And it was actually very cool.
Starting point is 00:36:45 One of my colleagues stepped up and said, because I said, I'm throwing this stuff out. I don't want it in my house anymore. And one of my colleagues said, okay, I'll send her a bear of a team that she can absolutely root for. So now we only, we're exclusively rooting for the U.S. women's national soccer team. That's what our, that's what our house does. Oh, that's quality. So you're just out on rooting for a football team. This reminds me of something I've meant to bring up on the podcast multiple times.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I think this is a good spot for it. It's a little off topic. The football outsider's almanac this year brought up Mark Sessler by name. in context of all the fans leaving the Browns. And they said, like, the most notable name, Mark Sessler of NFL.com. Who's the author? In the write-up. Sessie made it, Sessler.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I mean, how about that guy? Who is that guy? Rivers McCown wrote up that one. I'm going to send him like a barrel of wine. But you are basically the symbol. And I guess, Connor, your Brown's love was not quite as intense as Mark. But now you're along with it. Not quite.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Not even close. The reason why Mark is in that write-up is because, hey, stay stu-gots. Mark is a very public figure in the football realm at this point, and nobody had the passion for the Browns that Mark did. So I'm totally signing off on football.
Starting point is 00:38:04 That's just good work by the outsiders. I appreciate that. You are now the symbol of people jumping ship. I'm looking for the exact, you know, write-up. Well, Connor, you know there's a lot of Browns fans in Cleveland that basically hate anyone that did that. I hear about it all the time on Twitter. I get that's happening.
Starting point is 00:38:18 That would be happening with any fan. Before we get to the slide, I don't want to get too far afield, but we talked about, and very, you know, notably Ian was on the show, we talked about the insiders and various how this story was reported. You know, all the reporters on Twitter that are like sending out photos of Deshawn Watson posing with children and signing footballs and, like, quotes, like, we love you, Deshaun and all this stuff. It's like, that's similar to me that what you were talking about, Greg. And I know now the money's not evolving, you're not doing the quote unquote work. of the agent. I think that to me was notable, but it's also, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:53 it's a gray area morally, I think, because of what's going on and what we know. It also can be seen as doing a favor for that agent, who a lot of these reporters have very close relationships. And the Browns? I mean, Mark does not. And this is the write-up. The Browns have heard and lost many fans because of this trade.
Starting point is 00:39:10 NFL.com's Mark Sessler, perhaps the most prominent and public about it. Well, I think part of it is. That's their slogan? No, I'm just saying that's, that's the write-up in my favorite football preview of the year. I've never been mentioned in it, and there you are, Mark. Thanks for bringing that up. I think that would work as a slogan, sort of.
Starting point is 00:39:32 All right. My slogan, though, is, you know, a little more to the point, which is, what? What? What? Oh, whatever, you would have done it to. Well, there were other teams that did want to do it. Got one, Connor? I went with the, because the area code, they call themselves the 216. So I said the 21 sycophants.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Oh, yeah, Mark. Don't think that'd be popular. Mine's strange, Connor. I have a zip code in mine, and it goes like this. Come on down to our satanic black mass this Saturday evening, 5.55 p.m. at 99 Dark Forest Court, Circleville, Ohio, zip code 43113. I can't beat that. Let's move forward.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Uh, Dallas Cowboys. You know, I think this is playing up. Again, the exercise to me is what does the team want to put out there? What is the vibe that they want to kind of reinforce ahead of the season? They're very sensitive about this Mike McCarthy situation and Sean Peyton. And you know my feelings about Mike McCarthy? Zaddy ain't going nowhere. Mm.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I like that. Not until about a week 12. Because he lost, wait, I don't know if you heard in his introductory press conference, his workout routine was a topic of conversation that he lost a lot of weight he's fitter and he even like
Starting point is 00:40:53 would think of the media sometime while he was in his workout for motivation so he was kind of taking some jobs here but he's looking like a real zaddy meanwhile Andy Reid is grinding film stop don't be the Zaddy like that
Starting point is 00:41:09 don't do them dirty anybody else got one for the Cowboys I have a Just based off that vibe, Dallas Cowboys 2020, it's us versus the guy she told you not to worry about. Anybody else? All right. Let's move to the Denver Broncos. I have a very dumb one.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Let's hear it. You're coming up with a bunch of these, and some of them are just like, this is a clunker. But I could see it attracting a certain type of person. You're going off the head coach's last name. The team shouts out, we can hack it. Can you hack it? And then the fans, the fans say back, yes, I will, son. Like Wilson, but will, comma, son.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Like you're speaking to a child, maybe, the team. But they also have to, you know, lift up one finger and kind of do a little shake with attitude like Mark did. It's also incredibly stupid. We need that for, that was the social clip right there, was Mark doing, I love that. I think that was really good. I'm going to come up with one that I think just, it works. it's got a certain ring to it. Let's ride.
Starting point is 00:42:16 There you go. They've got their slogan. Yeah, mine's like embrace the cringe. It's going to be super cringy this year. Russell Wilson's going to do a bunch of corny stuff, but he's also going to win you a bunch of games. How about you, Connor? I was saying like, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:31 Giovante some more or something like that. You know, that one was workshopping a little bit. Yeah, so yeah, I'm going to, yeah, I was just kind of hoping you wouldn't call me for that one. Go with the guy who's like in a splenter. flip backfield. The Detroit Lions. I have, well, aren't you so original for picking us as your final wildcard team in the NFC?
Starting point is 00:42:49 Oh, that's perfect. See, this is what happens. It's like the offseason's too long and now we're pushing against the things we all kind of like thought. Just getting ahead of that one. Just getting ahead of that one. You're right. You're right. I have Fast Street Pussy Cat Kill Kill, which is a film title, but they are like cats in a way.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And I think they want to be aggressive and win on both sides of the line. I like that. they sure do how about you we're going to suck at full speed speaking of the lines they are the hard knocks team and the around the NFL podcast
Starting point is 00:43:24 has a big hard knocks announcement coming up on Monday that's a tease that's an industry piece I'll leave it at that you got one Greg this is my I'm in my NFC North Black hole right right right right all right Connor what do you got for the Green Bay Packers
Starting point is 00:43:39 I'm going to pass on this one because I had a long list of troubling sort of vaccine-related jokes that I was workshopping last year and so I'm just going to I'm going to let that one I'm going to let that one slide as much like it's not like our feelings on the matter of change but just the vaccine jokes not popping as much sure yeah not as timely it's not coming in at 97 on the corner anymore how about you uh this was also halfway workshopped. It says, among other things,
Starting point is 00:44:12 we have convinced humans from the Midwest to wear massive pieces of cheese on their heads. It shows the power of the Packers internal power. In Wisconsin in the surrounding territories.
Starting point is 00:44:22 For me, well, guess what? Green Bay, timeout. Tugboe time out. I'm not talking about the Packers in this exercise. They're on tugboat timeout. Remember that.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Houston, Texas. I don't have anything for the Houston, Texas. Texans. I went with just try and find where we buried David Cully. Seriously, what happened to that guy? An actual challenge. We're challenging you to find the body.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Yeah. You could be doing the thing where you don't get another job so you'd keep the pay you got from the Houston, Texas. Because at least with the ballboys with deflategate, the Patriots at least said, hey, we buried those guys under the mass pike. So you knew it was that thoroughfare. And still, that's a very large roadway. But at least you had a general idea where they buried those bodies after the murders. We don't know where David Cully is.
Starting point is 00:45:17 No, those two boys are findable. They're dead. Collie is, it's undetected. How about even seven wins would feel amazing? Like, set the bar fairly low. Because it's true. If they won seven games, it would feel like everything's amazing in Houston.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Like everything about Watson is gone. I have a raffle copter just crashed onto our lawn. What's a raffle copter? Like a rolling on the floor laughing copter. I didn't know that was a thing. Capital R-O-F-L copter. It's like a, like it's super funny. Now this isn't a callback to the Rosencopter,
Starting point is 00:45:52 Sage Rosenfels, his famous play as a member of the Houston Texans where he spun in the air and fumbled the ball. No, but that's a nice little time. Indianapolis Colts, this one I think, again, playing into what they want you to remember. Yeah. And what you want to think about at all times, now with 100% less wince.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Mm. That's good. How about similarly, like, chug in ice cold, mattie ice and forget those student loans. Student loans. Strange. It's like let football at the scene.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Forget about, forget about all that. I have good but not great, part seven. Yeah, that's about right. Am I allowed to swear on this? Yeah. You asked that last year, by the way. Let it rip, buddy.
Starting point is 00:46:39 All right. So I have, uh, you guys reopened Napoli's pizza. Yes. Thank you, Connor. Napoli's pizza was the gem of Combine Week. Connor had discovered it years earlier and it became a tradition for around the NFL. Uh,
Starting point is 00:46:57 we would all go together. We'd have these specialty pies in the wood, uh, you know, brick oven pizza. We'd have some wine, some titos, and we'd be flying. I think we got to come. It's COVID's fault, though, I think. I got wiped by COVID, I believe, Napoli. I was working on a story for the magazine, and I ran across another player who is born in Indianapolis
Starting point is 00:47:17 in the team facility that I was at. And we were talking about Indianapolis with such depth that he goes, oh, were you born there? He's like, what section? Like, where were you? And I was like, no, no, I just have a lot of takes. But Napolese really took up the majority of our conversation. This player was also very upset.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Remember that, like, one week where the entire NFL media acted like Indianapolis was Paris in the 40s and, like, made sure the combine didn't move? That was weird. No, how could we ever move on from Indianapolis? I'm going to say Paris in the 40s is always a great place to be. No, that was a terrible I really meant earlier that. Yeah, actually, that was. I think there was a Nazi occupation at one point. That was the worst historical reference I've ever made.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I was thinking more like Bell Apoc, you know. It's a bad job. No, I got you. We all know where you're attempting to go with it. The Jacksonville Jaguars. Mark. If 14 times you don't succeed, try, try again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Connor? I have a run and shoot more like press and coot. Press Taylor and Jim Bob Cooter. Okay. I love Cooter. I forgot he's there. Do we have to bleep that out too? Press Taylor.
Starting point is 00:48:31 No, he's a good. I can't, I don't beat that, but I'm going to go with, we drafted the last two number. number one overall picks. The other 31 teams didn't draft any. Zero for the other 32. That's factual. That's just facts.
Starting point is 00:48:45 The Kansas City Chiefs. Now, this one's a little weird because I don't know how they're going to promote this, but I have a GIF for the Chiefs connected to, you know, they're missing. Tyreek Hill, Honey Badger's gone. I still think about that second half of the AFC title game like all the time and what happened to the team. So here it is in gift form. this is the slogan of the team. Yes, my favorite movie.
Starting point is 00:49:10 All right, move on. Nothing to see here. Frank Dreben, Lieutenant Frank Drebin from Naked Gun. Nothing to see here. Trying to wave off people away from the exploding fireworks factory. Everything's fine. We'll be 13 and 4. See you in January.
Starting point is 00:49:28 That's what we're trying to get across, even though I don't think that's true. Right. You using this clip also indicates where you're at with the Chiefs for 20. 2022. I'm not with you. I have something that they could spin off of what you've said. Again, clunky. I'm not happy with some of these. But no Tyreek, don't freak, we'll peak, not reek. I like that. It's the same thing. Just in a different. It's a different. Different delivery method.
Starting point is 00:49:54 A lesser angle. Yes. Nothing. How about you, Connor? I just, you know, I, this is less of a phrase and just more of an observation, but it is the team of sports writers who are going to wait and say nothing when they start like oh and three and then when they're seven and three just be like I want to hear from everybody who said Patrick Holmes wasn't good after oh I remember that last year and I was like you know what they were bad for a while because teams learned how to stop RPOs like they were bad for a little while and they don't have a running game we could point that out you know that's fair I'm thinking of like one person in particular that I'm actually still pretty much. I want to know who it was.
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Starting point is 00:53:04 The Las Vegas Raiders. Gregi, what do you got? Devante Adams left Aaron Rogers for us. That's good. Capital us. I mean, what else do you need to hear to be excited about the Raiders?
Starting point is 00:53:16 How about you, Connor? The Hooters that used to be here has changed locations. Did they have the Hooters at Allegiance Stadium? They used to employ the Hooters spokesperson. Oh, very good.
Starting point is 00:53:32 How about you, Mark? I have, nobody believes in us, save for the 77% of football scribes who claim we have an excellent chance to make the postseason. Yeah. I got jackpot ellipsies, maybe. I can't believe Brent Musburger's not the play-by-play guy anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:48 No, he's getting up there in age. Maybe he just needed that extra cash towards the end. All right, the Los Angeles Chargers. I didn't mean to say it that way, but I'm saying the end of his run with the team. I got L.A. Chargers, okay, but this time for real. How about we drafted Justin Herber and Rayshon Slater in back-to-back years. Are you kidding me? I mean, that's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:54:12 All pros, you know, it's right there. It's good, but now we need results. Okay. I don't have one for this team. Connor? Not going staley. That's better. That's good.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Los Angeles Rams. Mark, I know you got something for the Rams. I do. We've got a clip, but I'll read it first. See, there's no question the L.A. Rams are right for you. The question is, are you right for the L.A. Rams? Which I kind of think is their vibe, because they're kind of like, we don't really, we're good. We go do things our own way, but this is based off a very ponderous commercial from 1984.
Starting point is 00:54:51 See, there's no question Grape Nuts is right for you. Question is, are you right for Grape Nats? Remember that cereal? I have no idea what that has to do with the Rams, but I like it. That was kind of a Gen X pop culture callback. Even you lost us in the weeds. Boomer, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:10 I remember it as a child that this guy like is wandering through the wilderness trying to tell you that he's basically better than you because of the cereal he eats. I don't think, the Rams are not saying, they're just saying we're good. It's a pretty compelling food product slogan. Be like, you good enough for us?
Starting point is 00:55:26 Can you handle that? What do you have, Connor? At some point, it's going to really suck to work here. Why? What is that? I mean, this team is going to, I mean, in two years, this team is going to be really bad. When Matt Stafford leaves and Jalen Ramsey can't cover anybody and Sean McVeigh quits to make $85 million a year calling games with Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:55:50 When McVe leaves, sure, but people have been saying that this thing's going to blow up for five years and they're the most consistently successful team in the year. and Stafford and Ramsey aren't old. It's going to, like, in four years, it's going to really suck to work there. So you're going to say the 2026 season. But you know what? If that means that, you know, they already have the Lombardi and they're going to have a few more years of the window open, I would sign up for that as a fan.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah, I think they should go with something more like repeating as champions. Totally easy. Yeah, because, Connor, I don't think that slogan's getting past team walls, the one that you've suggested. Well, there's been a few like that. Well, that's fair. Neither will this one. We exist to drive Mark Zessler crazy. I don't have this anim.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I think last year what they accomplished kind of, it's like, all right, you went and did it. It was before they did anything. Here's an important one because obviously this organization's in Sports Illustrated and many other publications for very bad things right now. So they need a kick-ass slogan to change the narrative. Connor, what do you have for the dolphins? It's sort of a version of the same thing.
Starting point is 00:56:54 So I was just saying like, wait, you thought we were serious or I was just messing with you guys, you know, something like that. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think you want to bring attention to it. I think you just go, the teal is going to make you squeal. Oh, it's good. It's good. You got to pipe in the axe. That's important.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Mark? I don't think mine is appropriate. Well, now we really need to hear it. It just seems off tone based on how you introed the Dolphins, but I just said, ooh-l-la, naughty owner alert. Minnesota Vikings. I have now with a 90% less chance of a head coach on quarterback homicide. Just that's a positive.
Starting point is 00:57:41 That's good. That's definitely good. That's definitely good. Anybody else? I have the Vikings originated from an area that became modern-day Scandinavia that we're going to act like they evolved from central Minnesota, and you're going to play along with it. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:57:56 That's going to be a tough one to sell. But it's good to give them options. Connor? I went with Vikings 2020, comfortably numb. They are. That's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:58:09 How about you, Greg? NFC North. I'm just not doing it. Oh, that's right. Greg dropped that division. I thought maybe you had scrambled and got something. It's all right. The Patriots.
Starting point is 00:58:22 All right. I know you got the Patriots, Gregie. I do. Mac Jones is perfect. Can you believe it? All right. I mean, it just fell right into their laps. Well, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:58:35 We'll see. How about you, Greg? I'm Mark. The one thing I noticed about doing this in alphabetical order, that my selection started to slim and disappear as we got down the list. Fewer and fewer were getting entries. Decide of work ethic fatigue, but that's okay. How about you, Connor?
Starting point is 00:58:49 I did we're getting back to spy game they've got kind of this seedy situation where no coach has a title or anything like they're they're getting the old they're getting the old black ops team back together we're doing some shady stuff baby I think I think they need it I just spent a couple weeks at the Jersey Shore and you know you see that there's like the big beefy boy on the on the beach like building the sandcastle in the fort in front of the sandcastle. Like a boy or a man? He's like a large boy. Okay. Like he's a, I don't know, I'll say heavyset boy. Sure.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I don't want to be a mean. But now picture Matt Patricia's head photoshopped on the boy. Big Matt's got the shovel in the sandbox now. But it's a sandbox, so not a beach. So we're workshopping it. I like it. I think it's kind of a PR strategy, almost lean into what people. are negative about you.
Starting point is 00:59:52 You know, it's like, change the narrative. Matt's actually our strength. He's calling the plays, right? He looks like he's the play calling. They just can't give him the title because he won't get that lion's money. All right. How about the Saints?
Starting point is 01:00:03 Connor. Huh. Maybe our old coach was kind of a jerk. Anybody else got something? I've got too many. It's a mouthful, but don't worry that defense of DVOA is not as consistent and annually as offensive DVOA,
Starting point is 01:00:21 we're different. That's good. I have NSFW, not safe for work. This team, to me, gives me that vibe. Anything could happen with them. I am attracted to them in many ways that I was not in previous years, and I kind of like all the change
Starting point is 01:00:38 and to see how they operate in the NFC South, which they can win. I'm tempering it a little bit with, if four things go exactly right, we'll see you in the NFC title game. That's good. I had another option, which was, we brought in, we kept every person Sean Payton has ever hired and we broaden his son. So it's like he never left, right?
Starting point is 01:00:59 How about the Giants? We'll be better than the Jets. Just like really bring that rivalry up, you know? There's not much heat to the rivalry right now. Connor? I'm stealing this from my podcast co-host, but I feel like it's like a nice cross-potties. thing here where we can say like, hey, listen to the MMQB podcast. Nice plug.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Yeah, no problem. But we're going to go with Abrake Daniel. Wait, and who is your co-host that changed it, that came up with this? That was Gary Gremlin. That was, I believe, an adventure time reference. Ah, I call. You got one, Mark? I do for the Jets.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Our next team. Okay, go ahead. Well, last choice I went with, once you go Zach, you never go back. but I'm switching it up this time to, if this doesn't work, we just resort to cannibalism, right? Potentially. What about you, Greg?
Starting point is 01:01:58 This year will wait longer before ruining Dan's optimism. I'll take it. That's positive. Connor? Former Jet's Beatman. Former Jet's Beatman. Yeah, I went with choosy moms,
Starting point is 01:02:11 choose Jets. Yes. That's good. I got a very impressive picture of Zach, the beefy boy, becomes a thick man. I like that. Eagles. Oh, go ahead, Connor. What did you got?
Starting point is 01:02:25 I was there the day that Robert Sala called him thick with a C. Yeah, how did that go? What was the vibe in the room in that momentous moment in football history? I think we all felt it, you know? There was definitely an anticipation to then see the thickness. I do. Well, I respect your football acumen. What do you think about my Jets this?
Starting point is 01:02:45 your, Connor. I think that they're a lot younger than people still believe they are. Connor's like, will I ever be allowed on the show again if I say anything negative in August about the Jets? I think if they win seven games, it's a tremendous leap. And I would keep Robert Saul if they did that because I think that would be a really spectacular thing. I think people don't realize how bad that roster was to you.
Starting point is 01:03:15 ago it was it was really bad uh yeah i don't think that that could be definitely a sign of success but it does go back to the beefy thick boy uh how about the eagles hurt so good oh okay i actually could see that that's that is one where yeah it's it's simple it's dark no it's concerning because i had i had in my mind almost the same exact thing and decided that feels like it maybe already is a slogan for them it's sort of a cliche right How about you, Connor? I just, I was going to do like a big billboard with just a very close picture of Howie Roseman's face, the GM and just say like, Howie, mother, fucker. You know, like he's, he's, he's so good.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Like, he's just, he's playing 3D chess with everybody. He really is. He got out of that, um, that side building that they put him in for one year with Chip and he is on fire. We're giving Graver a lot of work here with the swearing in this episode. Yeah, yeah. Sorry about that. The Pittsburgh Steelers. How about Aquasurer Stadium?
Starting point is 01:04:21 Why did we do that? So they're calling attention to that. Interesting strategy, but maybe it will work. So newly regular listener, Walker Rosenthal, was watching me put this together the other evening. And he came up with the Steelers. He wanted to come up with one. And it was just, the Steelers are going to steal the ball.
Starting point is 01:04:43 That's okay, Walker. I'll throw that in there. That's a workshop. I like, he's getting going. He's getting his feet wet. He knows how his age audience would react to something too. I think his age would like that one. Anybody else on the Steelers?
Starting point is 01:04:57 Yeah, I mean, as tough as that one is to follow, I was going to say Mitch's brew. Oh, that's nice. That's good. Well, he's on the bench. Yeah, nobody has a Mason Rudolph based on his scintillating camp so far. Yeah. Mitch's brew would be a good pie.
Starting point is 01:05:15 podcast title like if he has a big game we got to remember that truth how about the 49ers connor um i can uh i can uh just co-opped my rams one which is at some point uh much sooner than the rams it's going to really suck to work here wow oh see i like your take on this because everyone basically views mcvay and shanahan is infallible uh but you feel that fouls are coming. It's going to be very fountable. Okay, so yeah, this is the reason I think so. Every time Sean McVeigh loses someone,
Starting point is 01:05:54 like someone is running to fill that vacancy, every time Kyle Shanahan loses a coach, who's running to fill those vacancies? Like, who's tripping over themselves to get into that building right now? I don't think very many. Or it's tempting a dysfunction. I'm smelling some under the radar reporting being done.
Starting point is 01:06:14 And I like it. I like it. We see it. Anybody else got Niners? Seahawks. I have this one built, you know, one thing, and we've talked on this podcast, a lot about Gino Smith and this big stage for him. But I don't think enough has been made about now that we, now we have a potential starting quarterback in the NFL and a head coach who are also the league's two leading conspiracy theorists. I think there's something there from a promotional aspect.
Starting point is 01:06:42 So I got Earth's Flat and Jet Fuel. don't melt steam, steal beams. That's troubling. Mine is Gino-esque too. Happily catering to Greg's dense and slightly confusing Gino fetish at the expense of an entire fan base. Dense.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I'm going with that whole New Yorker story about the earthquake destroying the Pacific Northwest hasn't come true yet. So let's have some fun out there. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. Connor?
Starting point is 01:07:13 I don't have them, but I'm just enjoying like Pete Carroll showing the entire team loose change on YouTube and it's just it's a really fun visual for me. How about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? Connor. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2020.
Starting point is 01:07:35 We're kicking the can down the road. It's like Conner hates teams that don't have like 17 year long building plans they're doing fine they're a favorite I didn't really have one here nothing really jumped out
Starting point is 01:07:50 but they were a tough team I thought for some reason to come up with one my thought was like we are going to massively bite the minute Tom Brady exit stage left yeah well that's most likely the way it's going to play it how about the Tennessee Titans Grave Digger why don't you jump in on this one
Starting point is 01:08:05 All right I've got the Titans remember us That's pretty good Oh right Remember the Titans But also A lot of people are overlooking them Yeah, playing into
Starting point is 01:08:21 the Titans fan base Infuriorty complex Like putting that in writing is interesting We were the number one C Please All right, I like that Anybody else? Mine is
Starting point is 01:08:34 The Titans are cool The Titans are fresh T-I-T-A-N Say it from your chest I can't I can't stand by that one I don't know what it was, where it came from in your mind. I got to send that one back.
Starting point is 01:08:46 I think just like every once in a while, you're just got to have like really overly and fantastic cheers. Yeah. Right. You got one, Connor? Yeah. Okay. So like you said, picture the media guide.
Starting point is 01:08:57 And then this is kind of going to be sort of the main headline. Tennessee Titans 2022. Last year, Connor Orr said in Sports Illustrated that you'd be looking for a quarterback and all your idiot fans tweeted him saying he was wrong. And look who's wrong now. You're all idiots. That was going to be the kind of the slogan. You know what?
Starting point is 01:09:18 And I think you want to answer to that Grave Digger as a fan? Hey. Ryan Tannenhill is back this year. Ah, he said technically you were wrong. So technically they did draft Malik Willis. So I guess they did look for it. Tough sitch, tough sitch. Finally, last and perhaps least,
Starting point is 01:09:40 Uh, the Washington commanders. I have go back to whence you came. Ooh. How about you, Connor? I was just going to say like, you're, your classic old lovable commanders. Um, and the reason that I say that is because they've, they, they seem to have been acting now. Like, they're just pretending they've been the commanders for the last 30 years now that they've rebranded. And they're just like, oh, yeah, no, this is all like, yeah, they have throwback.
Starting point is 01:10:10 even though it's their first year in this new uniform with this new team. And I just love the, you know, just the complete ignorance of the past. And it's just like, yeah, no, no. They're trying to retcon the entire experience at this point. It is confusing when it's like, yeah, remember when the hogs were going to the Super Bowl with the commanders back in the day? That was awesome. I think we're kind of overlooking the most obvious slogan on the board. Here it is.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Now it's time to all come together and begin to take command. as we all know decided to really go ahead and start to take command yeah he they already basically and it's funny because i had a similar thought that we we already have it it's right at the tips of our fingertips here it is a lot of commanders in washington dc in the pentagon that's good just facts i know connor agrees with me what is it called when um you you bring your yacht back to shore what is that called i wish i knew because if I knew there would be a whole other thing.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Mooring? Is that a word? Mooring. But I like where you're going. You know what I mean? Like it could be like let's dock it. Like let's, you know, like, all right. Back to port.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Washington command. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. All right. There you go. Again, those are all pro bono. That's pro bono work from us. If any team wants to lift it,
Starting point is 01:11:39 I would say attribute us, you know, let people know where it came from, but we're not, we don't have our hands out. At least I'm speak for myself. I don't know. I am with you on that stance. And Connor, you've said it all. You've done it all. Anything to add.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Anything to plug. Of course, you have your MMQB podcast. What else? Well, I would say August 18th, the football preview issue comes out. Like, you know, let's go out. Let's go to the newsstand. I do this. Every month, even though I get a copy at my house, I go out to the grocery store and I buy it.
Starting point is 01:12:15 You know, you should do this. You should go out and buy it because, you know what, it's a great, it's a great issue. It's a lot of really good stories in there. And you don't need to enter your email address. You don't need to give anybody any credit card information. It's just, and you can take it anywhere. You can take it to the beach. And you got a roster full of All-Stars still.
Starting point is 01:12:35 You got Greg Bishop, one of the best in the game. You're cranking them out. What kind of story did you cover in this? Or what was something that would be notable if you did I hear. There might be some oar on the cover. Oh, see, that's what we're talking about. So let's, you know, I'm just saying. It would be wild if it was actually ore on the cover, like just you.
Starting point is 01:12:56 That would be amazing. And it's this. It's a screen grab from this podcast. It's like, or are you kidding me? Like, like, s.i.com writer is not taking any guff. Do you? Connor, do you, is SI, they have the regional covers now, right? Is there a national cover as well?
Starting point is 01:13:14 How does that break down? We are, so this one will be really cool. I don't know, I don't know how much I'm allowed to, I don't know how much I'm allowed to say, but it's going to, it's going to be a national cover. Yeah. And it's going to, but it's going to be cool. There's a cool element to it. And that's all I can all I can allude to. So it's very, it's very, very fun, very cool.
Starting point is 01:13:34 You've sold me. I'm going. I'm buying. Yes. Back in the, back in the day, Dr. Z would have his. Super Bowl picks on the cover. Who is? Does anyone take that space or that role now?
Starting point is 01:13:44 Is it maybe you? We workshop it. So we have all of our NFL writers and editors and head editors in a text group. And then they say, all right, here's five or six potential ones there. And we will fight about it. And then we will come to sort of a, we'll kind of come to an agreeable conclusion, something we can all live with at the end. And finally, I just noticed, in addition to a t-shirt that a fan had made connected to our podcast,
Starting point is 01:14:14 you have the Minot Frisbee hanging on the wall prominently as well. My not, of course, was the city in North Dakota, I believe, that was your site for your Madden or something, some type of simulation, video game simulation franchise. Do you have any updates in that realm before we say goodbye? I'm still I played a video game for the this is how sad dad life is Are you gaming are any you guys gaming it up right now or no
Starting point is 01:14:46 No I play a little bit of a golf on my old PS4 But with the kids sometimes Yeah we have Madden in our house Okay see I'm not there yet And so I played I played video games for the first time In about a year Last weekend with my wife
Starting point is 01:15:02 We played risk on on Nintendo Switch So fun. That's how far out I am on everything. So we're not building out rosters anymore. Well, I would say this. I would say it's coming. It's in the works, but probably not in the foreseeable future. I mean, but the question hasn't changed.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Why not my not? You know, you want to talk about slogans. You still have a key to the city. Why not? I still haven't gotten it. I still haven't gotten it. All right. If anyone connected to.
Starting point is 01:15:35 the city of Minot, North Dakota is listening. Please, please reach out to us and we'll get you Connor's address and everything to make that wrong, right? And also to the listeners, Minot has a Wikipedia page, and yet there's no section of it dedicated to Connor and this podcast.
Starting point is 01:15:53 That must be adjusted. And we know how Wikipedia works, wink, wink, nudge, if somebody wants to go in there and write a detailed Connor or, history of Connor or around the NFL, and the city of Minot entry. I think it stays in. I don't think it gets... Well, it's factual.
Starting point is 01:16:12 It's not going to get yanked because of some, you know, nonsense. It's a factual report about Conner's deep, embedded relationship with the town. All right. That's it. Connor, you've said it all. See you, Connor.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Hi, aye. Bye, bye. We do have a little bit of breaking news here. Well, that's the developing. Developing works. I would call this developing. Absolutely. Marquise Hollywood Brown.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Brahe. spent Wednesday morning in jail after getting arrested for criminal speeding. If you get arrested for speeding, you were going, mother effing fast. I don't even know anything about the story, but how bad was the speeding? TMZ reporting that he was stopped around 705 a.m. That's pretty much the details on it at this point. I told you Cardinals disorganized in the desert. Hey, you win.
Starting point is 01:17:05 You win again, Mark. I mean, I'm not viewing this as a huge victory in this particular case. We'll see what happens to. They practiced very early in Arizona to beat the heat. This absolutely feels like a late-for-work situation. You do not want to be late for your training. Also, he was in the HOV lane. He just came off the NFI list with that hamstring injury and then bang arrested.
Starting point is 01:17:30 As arrests go, this should be handled pretty. smoothly unless there's more to this story. All right. Very good. Good update there. We'll be back on Friday. From Rams game, the defending champions. We'll be there.
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