NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Team Slogans 2023 with Conor Orr

Episode Date: July 25, 2023

In a room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, and Marc Sessler are joined by Conor Orr to give you their team slogans headed into the 2023 season. Before the slogans, the heroes get caug...ht up on some of the news from around the league including Jimmy Graham (04:25) and Saquon Barkley getting new contracts (07:50) and developments out of Las Vegas (12:10) and Kansas City (14:54). After the break, the heroes run through the league and give you a slogan for every team. Jump ahead to the Ravens (33:12), Cowboys (43:23), Packers (50:24), Raiders (01:00:45), Jets (01:08:15) and 49ers (01:11:40). Note: Time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast is back in the Chris Wessling podcast studio. Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. Yes, back. In the Chris Wessling podcast studio, my name is Dan Hansis, Greg Rosenthal, and Mark Sessler. The whole gang. What's up, boys? Sessie!
Starting point is 00:00:34 Sesta. I think for the first time in the history of this podcast, I am without laptop. Oh, that's what you're leading with. Yeah, during our break, I attempted at one point. Not like, hey, I haven't seen you guys. Well, no, it's over a month. It's probably the longest time. It's so great to be back together.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Well, fine, it is. It's wonderful. You're wearing black denim at the end of July. Like, we could have led with that. Well, the jacket's back. I feel very naked, though. I have, despite what I'm wearing. Your computer broke since we last saw you?
Starting point is 00:01:01 I got this laptop in 2016, and IT about a month ago. This isn't even a functionally trackable product at our company where you need to get a new one. And I refuse to, because I have all my stuff set up the way that you want to on the computer. I attempted to check email from home. Yes. And I heard this just loud pop, and the whole thing just turned off and it's gone. It's terrible. I have no work here.
Starting point is 00:01:25 So it's a good excuse. I cannot do, I was not be productive to do any work. Are you, yeah, setting expectations near the floor for today's episode. Our first together in over a month here at the studio. I have created on my phone, dense notes. Very nice. It was a little break for all of us from each other, too. We're just so up in each other's business that even one month apart in person felt like the longest that we've probably done since we started.
Starting point is 00:01:53 How are you doing about 11? How are you doing, Greg? I mean, I got to see you guys on Zoom. Oh, good. So that was nice. We've texted. And I... I'm feeling good with it.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I'm feeling good to be back. My family's not back, so I'm just kind of... I'm solo, huh? I'm solo for a couple more weeks. What have you done that you wouldn't want people to know about in their absence? I would be proud of it all. I'm not hiding anything. I saw Barbie, you know, by myself.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I don't know if I would want people to know that. I just decided to go by myself. I was going to go the friend and that fell through. I was like, let's go. Let's go. And it was great. Was it just you and a lot of teen girls? And it was a young police eyeing you suspiciously.
Starting point is 00:02:31 It was a young crowd for sure. I mean, it's making massive money. I'm going to go see the double bill soon. Barbenheimer. Oppenheimer first and then Barbie after. Very nice. I can't even find a seat right now. It's sold out.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Can't do it. I got 9.30 a.m. tickets for the 70 millimeter, bro. Not Barbie. Oppenheimer. Friday. Going at 6 a.m. on Saturday. I'm not kidding. No, there's a 6 a.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I believe you. I believe you. Set up. In Hollywood, there's a 6 a. And then you go see Barbie at 10 a.m. afterwards. And you're doing it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Very nice. Without my laptop. That's at Hollywood life. Sleep? Not necessary. On Hollywood dad life, though, 6 a.m. Who else is there at 6 a.m.? That's outrageous.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Pack theater, Greg. It's good to see you here, though, Mark. You know the Goodwill hunting scene where Ben Affleck's character is like the best 10 seconds of my day is when I walk up to the house and I think maybe he's not there. For me, it's the opposite.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Sometimes I walk past the same. glass of the studio, and I'm like, is Mark not going to be there? And that would be a horrible day. We haven't seen you in a long time. You're here, which means it looks like we'll get another season with Mark. I will be here for this season. There are multiple financial responsibilities that make sure, that ensure that I will be. It's about the money, you're saying.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It's not. It is about the passion. Dan, Greg, all the guys. Well, we are all back together. It's great. Today's show is a fun one because one of our best buds on the around the NFL universe. Connor Orr is joining us for Team Slogans, 2003. But first, let's do some news.
Starting point is 00:04:03 A minute 48 remaining. Saints need a touchdown. From their own 34-yard line, empty backfield. Breeze throws. Jimmy Graham makes the catch inside the 30. And Graham is inside the 10. And he takes it all the way for a Saints. Go-ahead, touchdown, 66 yards from Breeze to Graham.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Oh, that was a long time ago. I believe that is the 2012 divisional playoff classic between the Saints and Niners. In fact, Graham has that huge touchdown pass from Drew Breeze to put the Saints ahead. And I believe that's the Vernon Davis game, right? That's right. Where he makes a catch in the final seconds on a pass from Alex Smith. And was that Smith? Seems that long ago.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah, having a pristine scene. Prying on the field, Vernon Davis. us a tremendous game in NFL playoff history. Jimmy Graham was the star of that Saints offense. But here we are all these years later. And Jimmy Graham is back with the Saints. After an eight year absence, they reached a deal. The team with the 36 year old, it's a one year deal, Greg. This one really was stunning to me. I thought it was a joke. And I saw you send out the news rundown just because, yeah, he was out of football last year. But then he was really quiet the last couple of years in Chicago
Starting point is 00:05:27 and it felt like he was out of league for about five years. Apparently he was just one, but still wild he's back in the NFL for now. I think like a lot of people I thought for a second it was a one day contract. That would make sense.
Starting point is 00:05:38 We usually try to lose, you lead the news with like something that's the biggest impact. And I don't think this is necessarily make the biggest hitback, but it was such a like, what? A moment.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And it reminded me back in very early days around the NFL podcast when we would be debating like Graham versus Gronk. Like, Jimmy Graham, like, on track to be one of the great tight ends of all time. Is Jimmy Graham a Hall of Famer? If you look at his, like, all pros early in his career, fell off quick.
Starting point is 00:06:06 But I do like that we just, we bring in Derek Carr and we bring back Jimmy Graham. It's like, everything's cool now. I know, the Saints, or they weird me out. You get Drew Breeze? Yeah, this is just, I thought this was a sin. I thought it was like come and retire with us, come do a one day thing. And I don't know what you expect to get from at this point. I just, I find it to be a very odd signing.
Starting point is 00:06:24 It's just nostalgic. Mickey Loem is just going nostalgic on us. What's going on with the step chart? You got Joanne Johnson, who they actually have a very quiet, team-friendly, good deal for both sides, contract this off season where they paid him, which I liked, a former receiver. Tason Hill. You know, it had to have been Jimmy Graham reaching out and saying, I'm working out every day. Just give me a chance. They're not giving them much money.
Starting point is 00:06:49 And they felt like, all right, we'll take a look at you. How long ago was that playoff moment for Jimmy Graham after he ran to the end zone shocking? And that's one of my favorite sports things when you make a huge play in a game on the road. And you could hear the crowd go from a roar, deafening roar for the home team to more of like a scattered yelling of the visiting fans. And also there's always women screaming for the home team. I think it's just like agony of what's happening. When you hear that, that's the ultimate road trip. situation for a scoring.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Sorry, my Apple Watch distracted me. Then he slams it over the upright the crossbar, which has been illegal, I thought, for 27 years. But apparently, you know, at that time it was illegal. They allowed him to do it. Let's come back to the future.
Starting point is 00:07:38 And women screamed. They screamed. In other... I'm sure there were some men screaming, too. Shut up. It's everyone. Everyone. Children. Everyone screaming together. No children were screaming. They were very under control in that moment.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Uh, Sequin Barclay and the Giants, here's another head scratcher. Uh, Sequin Barclay has been, um, with other running backs really upset about the market and all that. We've talked about it on the show. I said I was really, uh, intrigued and slash shook about the text chain that all the running backs are on. And then they did a zoom call, 2020 style. That got me nervous. Like, what are these guys up to? It made me sad.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Just like, this will make you sad too. I'm Nick Chubb and all these guys, like, using their Saturday night on a Zoom call. It's sad. The Giants and Saquan Barclay agreed to terms on a one-year contract worth up to 11 million. Rapsheet reported Tuesday morning per sources informed of the situation. The deal includes a $2 million signing bonus. The Giants, you may remember, place the franchise tag on Barclay worth $10.091 million, which is a fully guaranteed contract.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And you try to figure out, like, what does this mean? And all it is, it looks like to me, Mark, is, you know, it's for in the NFL with salaries, you usually think a sweetener, it's a few million bucks. This is under a million dollars in terms of incentives. Barclay can hit, I guess it's some type of compromise, but really not much. It just, again, shows you what's going on for running backs who can't get the respect. Yeah, I mean, there's just, there's zero leverage. And I mean, the idea that Barclay would have skipped games or missed time, it's a no-win situation, I think, for these
Starting point is 00:09:19 running backs. And like I heard Chris Sims say something interesting that like where did this all begin? Like where does this chart back to like the devaluation? And I think you could look at the Shanahan's with their wide zone scheme that like you could plug almost anyone in and they're super productive. And it's like the running back value has nose dived. And I think Barclay's just the latest example of it. I mean, there's just there's no way to win in the situation contract wise. I think some of it's just timing though. Like Joe Mixing, Dalvin Cook, Christian McCaffrey, all got huge contracts. That wasn't that long ago. And they were good players. And there hasn't been like great running backs coming up.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I'm curious to see what kind of deal Chubb gets. The thing that was most surprising to me about this was, I don't know if my old boss, Florio, was on the Zoom call, or if he just heard, like, a play-by-play? Because apparently everyone on the Zoom call left the Zoom call knowing that Sequin was like, I'm not going to hold out. I'm not really planning on that. And Josh Jacobs on the Zoom call kind of made it clear, like,
Starting point is 00:10:16 I'm mad. I'm going home. I'm going to push this. I'm like, who's on this Zoom call? So I guess Sequin had no leverage. The incentives are interesting. They're pretty reachable. So he got a little something.
Starting point is 00:10:28 He got a little upfront money, too, with the signing bonus. But he didn't get any promise our Mike Garifolo pointed out that they wouldn't tag him again. So if he actually has a good year and he gets those incentives, you know, why wouldn't they just tag him again? It's a tough spot. But that's why this was so confused. First of all, I didn't realize, I thought that July 17th deadline for working out a deal was it. But apparently that's just for a long-term deal. You could still work out a deal for a one-year contract.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But to me, if Barclay runs for 2,000 yards this year, wouldn't be the only positive of the way this played out this year was you eliminate them being able to use that tag on you for next year? Was that worth maybe a million bucks on incentives this year? I don't, none of it makes sense to me. It's making my brain hurt. I feel bad for Sequin because he's making this money in his quarterback. He's a better football player then.
Starting point is 00:11:17 It's making like triple the amount of, him. It's just kind of weird, but... The triggers, by the way, 1,350 rushing yards says a lot. 65 catches 11 touchdowns and the team making the playoffs. It's probably spread through all of those.
Starting point is 00:11:31 To make what? And that will trigger what kind of... 900,000 total. How bizarre is this? Pennies. So he gave up the right to make the franchise tag prohibitive for the team to make potentially 900 grand
Starting point is 00:11:43 if he hits a ton of incentives, including one that he can't really control the team making the playoffs? I don't know. I feel like the relationship with the Giants will be over after this season. Well, Florea also reported the Giants desperately tried to trade him after tagging him initially, calling up double-digit teams, couldn't find a deal. So if I was him, I would also feel unloved and in a weird spot. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Let's check in with the Raiders. A lot cooking with the Raiders. Let's start with the Las Vegas Review Journal confirms that Jimmy Garapola will have, quote, no restrictions in Raiders camp. He avoided the publicist on Sunday. And the Raiders feel really good about Jimmy G going full bore in the summer. What could go wrong? This is positive, obviously, Mark, because there are reports in the early summer,
Starting point is 00:12:31 like, oh, his foot might not be right. They might be able to get out of this deal and it smelled like a potential boondoggle. Hey, this could still be a boondoggle, depending on how he holds up physically this summer and through the year. But at least they can go into the season with Brian Hoyer, not taking first team reps. Well, right. I mean, I always felt like Jimmy G would be back in time for this, but like they really had no plan beyond him. And I think I view the Raiders as like a highly disorganized scenario at this point. I just, I don't quite get what was going on with the Raiders in general. But Jimmy G's health was pivotal. And I mean, I think they always wanted Tom Brady. I think that was kind of their plan going into the off season. This was plan B. But plan B would have turned into a very awful plan C heading up and healthy. we're hoping to have on rap sheet in Rappaport on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:13:18 This was one of the things I was kind of wanted to ask him the Vegas situation. He was tight with McDaniels back in the day when he was covering the just there's a lot cooking there. I mentioned Jacobs and like
Starting point is 00:13:27 he left Vegas like the city he left Vegas and our Pellisero the Pell Razor said he's not planning to come back anytime soon. It is a hundred and like 15 degrees there every day and people probably are like you know asking him on the street
Starting point is 00:13:42 what am I doing here? I would get out of there. I can't do more than like three days in Vegas. I can't imagine doing the entire summer. Marcus Peters, formerly of the Ravens, signs a one-year deal with the Raiders as well. So they get that. I think that was a really good signing. I think he'll start for them. See if he's got any. He still could play last year. He was a gas in the tank. In other news, let's talk about the 2020 team of around the NFL, the Detroit Lions. Jameson Williams already facing a six-game suspension for violating the NFL's gambling. policy this season he's going to miss time now in training camp this is all just ominous with james will he suffered a leg injury on monday and we'll miss at least a few days of training camp
Starting point is 00:14:22 he is an important player for them they hope to have him back obviously sometime in the fall he's got to stay healthy missed a lot of last season coming off a college knee injury williams it's time for him to get in the news for things other than negative things we're going to have to wait some time for that it's that time like training camp you'd want to overreact to like who's on the pup list, who's not. But that one, that was a little bit of an eyebrow razor. And then Chauncey Gardner Johnson getting hurt early, but it doesn't look like it's going to be too serious.
Starting point is 00:14:53 In other wide receiver news, don't like this one either. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid said that Cadarius Tony underwent knee surgery to clean up cartilage, according to rap sheet. He tweaked it in his knee in training camp last week. We will see how long he'll be out. Could be for weeks, though. It could be an extended absence, putting Tony's week one in question. And Mark, isn't this the whole thing?
Starting point is 00:15:16 And we're all excited about Catarius, Tony, having a full year with Patrick Mahones and being potentially a number one guy. But this has been his story. He can't stay healthy. Absolutely, the narrative. And it's like they need him. I think they need him to be. I don't know what the number one ride receiver part of it will see because it's like his
Starting point is 00:15:34 availability is always in question. But their offense without him loses a major dynamic weapon. I thought that he was one of the biggest reasons. that they surged down the stretch, won the Super Bowl the way they used. You were hoping to see that from week one, and it's like, we'll even be there. He got hurt in the first special teams portion of practice.
Starting point is 00:15:52 You know when we go to the summer practice and they kind of are not goofing around, but they're doing special teams before the real practice start. Like, he didn't make it to that real practice on the first day, and that's why it's like he did a lot of honking and you might as well enjoy it when you're the Super Bowl champion, but he did a lot of honking. And I'm a huge Tony fan to Giants.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Like, I'm going to be the number one. one guy and it's like you can't even make it through the first first practice it's depressing uh the chiefs also won't have chris jones on the field uh at least initially in training camp he did not report to camp amidst ongoing contract negotiations he wants to be one of the highest paid defensive lineman in the league kansas city has to try to figure out how to make it work with the defensive player of the year finalist and in other superstar defender news uh it is just come came down the wire from pellraiser 49ers coach kyle shanahan says he doesn't expect star edge rusher nick to practice without a new contract.
Starting point is 00:16:43 So money matters. So is Bosa there, though? And like not practicing? Is it a hold in? Hold in. So for listeners, I don't know if you're that interested in this. But this new CBA, you can be fined $50,000 a day. And they say in the CBA that they can't just wave it later like you used to be able to.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I think Bosa, there was whispers that it might be a whole. hold in. It sounds like DeNeil Hunter, the defensive end for the Vikings, who's kind of been in a contract dispute all off season, is doing something similar. But Cowboys Guard, Zach Martin is not showing up to camp. Chris Jones is not showing up to camp. Those guys are made men, but $50,000 a day is a lot. So it's interesting because very few veterans have tried this out since this happened. It's a little funny, I'm going to say, Mark. Without the laptop, you just have your phone in between your arms and glancing down. There's a level of anxiety, I feel like that's emanating.
Starting point is 00:17:46 The laptop just was this thing that I've, you know, it's like a piece of my body. Right. That's why you led with it out of our long break. It's like why Mark shows up, you know, three hours early to shows and something. He just likes to be comfortable, be familiar, no surprise. So I'm seeing, because you had mentioned the computer situation to us. Over text, because I knew, I knew it would be a problem. Do you have anything lined up with IT in terms of a...
Starting point is 00:18:07 I visited with them, and they gave me a mysterious answer. I'm not sure. They actually were not secure that I could get a new laptop. If you do watch on YouTube, and you should subscribe. You know, we're a big show. We need those subscribers up. We're bigger audio-wise, certainly, than YouTube. Then you can see Mark's little phone.
Starting point is 00:18:24 You are right that I got here hours ago and ended up eating, like, breakfast alone in my car, like Nam Diascoma. Like, I just thought, it was a very strange morning leading up to this entire show. There's plenty of tables and upstairs outside. Our newsroom has, like, three people in it right now. No, but upstairs, there's literally a whole cafeteria with indoor tables, outdoor tables. I just wanted to be alone. I eat alone up there all the time. Like, no one's going to.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I can't explain it. You're not at a celebrity at the level of Mark. He can't be out in the open. He won't be able to even have a bite without your father. He doesn't want any shadowy league execs coming up and like asking him how his summer went. Yes. That's very accurate. Any colleagues, bosses, oh, hey, what's up, Mark?
Starting point is 00:19:08 How's your summer been? That is to you, a hell that you can't even... You could come find me in my car and knock on the window. Perhaps I roll it down. Maybe like Nondi. Nambi, yeah. You'll turn that kind of weird story into a surprisingly successful Hollywood career as an actor. Which is what NAMD is up.
Starting point is 00:19:25 He's in Hollywood. Feels like a stretch. Got the jacket. NFL networks Tom Pellis. All over the news reports Neheme Hines. The bill's running back suffered a significant knee injury off sight and is expected to miss the entire 2023 season. what he did? He's on a goddamn jetty.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Wait, but the details will let you you won't blame him for it. Well, he got crashed into. He was on a stationary one like at the dock. He got banged in a big spot. Yeah, these water sports are very perilous. And imagine the goon, the goober, who's racing towards this running back
Starting point is 00:20:01 ready to assume a key role on a Super Bowl contender and just slams into his leg? Well, do we know who the other, was it a man or a female or male or female? I'm not sure. A man or a woman. Might have been a Jets fan or something.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Could have been. Yeah, we were targeting Neheme Heinz. That is the key to break up. I mean, he had some big moments. Those returns, remember? Week 18. We're electric. I like their backfield.
Starting point is 00:20:28 If it was Robert Sala, right, would that be the biggest NFL story of the last 20 years? That Sala intentionally jet skied into Heinz. That would be a large story. No, the biggest. Yeah. But, well, let's keep Aaron Hernandez and so forth out of it. Like, in terms of non-murder news, would it be the biggest story? The head coach of the Jets.
Starting point is 00:20:49 No. Saw Nahim Hines as such a threat that he rented a jet ski and crashed it into the knee of the reserve running. It's not a story that would go away very quickly. I don't think it'd be the biggest. It'd be fun. It'd be more fun if he hired someone and then, like, someone connected the dots. Like, they have text messages of him, like, going on a Reddit site. Is Connor on, by the way?
Starting point is 00:21:09 I feel bad for Nehue Heinz. All right. We got to move on. We got to take a break. But before we do, I have a promo to read. Football is back, baby. Celebrate by watching his teams across the league. Take the field for training camp back together weekend presented by YouTube with two full days of practices,
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Starting point is 00:21:50 to watch. And we will be watching as well on the campus. We'll be sitting at home. They have not asked us to do a shredder coverage on their past. Put us in, coach. Greg, put a bow on it. You better be careful what you wish for. Yeah. That's a good point. Let's take a break and we'll bring in Connor War.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Don't have this as a serious son. Welcome back. Joining us now is an all-time favor. Want to put him on Mount Rushmore? Put him on Mount Rushmore. Fight me on it. He is from Sports Illustrated. He wrote the sauce gardener cover story.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Dory that you saw a couple months back. And now he's back for another appearance on Around the NFL. It's Connor Orr. Were you kidding me? Hello, everybody. What are we doing? Wait, we're talking Mount Rushmore of guests? How about former colleagues?
Starting point is 00:22:57 Friends of the show? I mean, he was once a member of Around the NFL, you know, the news blog. We never really. I feel like it would be selling Connor Short to say that he, on that Mount Rushmore. I just mean like anyone connected with the show. If you say I have to put four people, I'm putting ore on. And also like if you're going to have to carve his face into a, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:19 a Dakota mountainside, the current version of Connor Oar is about as fit and ready to go as we've ever seen. Is that a jaw line I see there, sir? I was recently called overweight, which was funny. By who? I was approached by an older gentleman at the beach. And he looked at me and he said, what happened to you? You used to be in such good shape. Did you know this, man?
Starting point is 00:23:46 Vaguely, yeah. So I'm getting ready to go now. That pumped me up for the start. That story is so bizarre. Wait, who is this? Yeah, we can't go any. We have team slogans of 2023 to get to. But how well did you know this man?
Starting point is 00:23:58 Is he a family friend? Did you go to the beach with him? Did you happen upon that? That is, like I saw him. I've seen him a few times. And I guess in between. the last time and the current time
Starting point is 00:24:11 which was about a year and a half I would say separated he said that I gained an unacceptable amount of weight what an untoward approach we're not getting the full story here no well I don't know what he
Starting point is 00:24:25 seems to carry some type of grudge against and it's like speaking for millions of Americans and people across the world that struggle with weight and you'll go up and down at times in your life just talk about it in private don't say it to me Don't approach me on the beach. Yeah, I'm already aware.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Maybe I haven't been on the Peloton. Maybe I haven't been on vacation. Like, let me work out my stuff. Don't come to me on the beach when I got my shirt off in my most vulnerable state. And to Greg's question, what was his, what did the old man's body look like himself? Phenomenal. Like, uh, that's not, even worse. Like early Austrian Schwarzenegger, you know, like.
Starting point is 00:25:02 So, you know. I'm sorry. It is what it is. Hey, Connor. I'm sorry, man. You're enough. I know. How are you,
Starting point is 00:25:12 but before we get into the slogans, you're very busy. So I'm curious, like, what does SI got you going? You're going around the country, visiting a bunch of camps. What do you got going on? We're doing some training camp tour stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:26 The football preview issues coming out soon. We've a lot of fun projects planned for the year that I'm very excited about that we're working on. So I would just get the plug in now. You subscribe to the magazine. now and you'll get all of that stuff, you know. So that's what I would do. I would hop on the old computer and, uh, and figure that out.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Right. And you could find, uh, Connor on X at, uh, at Connor. Oh, wait, are we doing threads or are we doing X? I cannot handle threads. I did threads for about two days. I was just like, this is utterly worthless. I will not spend a second of my life doing another thread. The best part of, um, the best part of this ongoing saga is everyone on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:26:08 like getting all like, you know, their underpants and a bunch. Like, well, well, this is it. Here's my threads. And then like two weeks later, oh, I can't take this anymore. Here's my threads. See you over there. It's like, why do you keep coming back then? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:21 You said you were going. I think if threads fixes the algorithm where it's like, where it's like Twitter, eventually that could potentially be an option. But as annoying as X is as like a title, like it's on us. We've got to just keep calling it Twitter. The fact that wrote a world, and I don't know if anyone That works there, listens to this show But the fact that they're going
Starting point is 00:26:45 Ian Rappaport on X as the link That they're linking to, you don't have to do that You're making that choice. Journalistically, they do. No, they don't. They could just say on Twitter. If you go to Twitter.com, it still works. You could call it the website formerly known as Twitter.
Starting point is 00:27:02 I mean, you want to be accurate that the owner did change the name. I see Tom Pelliserro on X. X. I'm thinking all sorts of stuff. I would never, I would never Google Tom Pelliserro on X. I think that would be. My approach, though, I honestly thought, when I, when I was asked to start a thread, I was like, okay, what would Mark do? Because he's sort of my North Star for a lot of social media stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And I did. I just started, I started posting pictures of DB Cooper. There you go. Just no links to anything. Right. Just pictures of DB Cooper. And I was like, that way I can build a base. over here by really talking about
Starting point is 00:27:39 what I'm passionate about. And then once Twitter firebombs out of existence, then I can just pop over here and I got my DB Cooper folks. I love the approach. I've only used it to post strange photos and it's like I will not be duplicating the tweet that I put out on threads. Then
Starting point is 00:27:54 we're just dipping into ultra narcissism and I just, I don't need it. I'm going to take both of them off my phone. Wait, you're... I'm done with Twitter. We're just both like, why am I on threads? I know, but that was two weeks ago. Then I realized I don't need to be doing this, this, I don't need to take this approach either. My outlook on this is I'm going forward, full Jordan Belfort, Wolf of Wall Street.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I'm not going anywhere because what's going to happen, this goober is going to sell it eventually. And then whoever buys it's like, oh, we're going to bring it back to what it was. And it will be Twitter again and the bird will be back. And then everybody will be back from threat, but people aren't even leaving to go to threads. It's not really happening. It's all fugues. You're digging your heels and I like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Not supporting the name change or anything, but I don't really care that much. Everybody's got to relax a little bit. I don't care. He's doing it on purpose. He's trying to get you mad. Don't let him get you mad. Connor. That sounds like a team slogan, right?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Don't let him get you mad. We, every year, this time, we go through the entirety of the NFL and what we try to do is come up collectively with a, not collective, we all kind of throw them out. a team slogan that matches what we believe the team is trying to say
Starting point is 00:29:10 or maybe what kind of best represents where we see the team right now. We do it in alphabetical order and Connor I think we should just get into it and starting with the Arizona Cardinals do you have anything for the cards Connor just basically everybody the exercise you didn't have to do all 32 when when you were struck by inspiration you hit it up anybody struck by the Cardinals
Starting point is 00:29:34 or anybody else. I did two, if that's okay. Of course. Did a little extra credit. The first one was now featuring complimentary lunch. Limit one per customer, premium menu items subject to additional surcharge. Smart move. Got to get the meat in the seats.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Deep cut. There was that report from the NFLPA that people were paying for their food in the Cardinals cafeteria. And I think that's a big step for the Cardinals. Like they might not win, but you can take the. that little croissant and not get charged. Do we know that they've stopped doing it? Actually, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:09 According to your slogan, yes. They did course correct, I believe, on the food. It reminds me in a major league when they have the propeller plane and they're taping up one of the propellers with electrical tape. It doesn't inspire confidence in any realm of the organization. To that point, my slogan I have is, look away. I'm hideous. Mine was, my slogan for the Arizona Cardinals was
Starting point is 00:30:34 Focus more on the Suns. Yeah. I got to rant. I was not inspired by the Cardinals. I sort of left the NFC West for last thinking we do it last. And like during the show. We did the same thing last year. We went out bed of water and then you even skip the NFC North in entirety
Starting point is 00:30:50 because you just forgot about them. We're going on out of course. Those were so good though. Sometimes though when you hear the good ones and you have others and not, you know, you just stand down. I'm not going to top. Oh, for sure. Did you have another redbirds one, Connor?
Starting point is 00:31:03 Along those same lines, come see the world's only triple F rated resort. Cardinals were the only team in the NFLPA survey to get three Fs, which is phenomenal. Ufa, yeah, strange times down in the desert. Atlanta Falcons, I got one here. Everybody's little pet team is ready to stop using the indoor pee pads. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You know, they're ready to actually be a good team. You guys, for instance. It's on your radar that Mark especially enjoys the Falcons. I like the idea of it. It's not on the radar. We're not like saying they're going to win the Super Bowl, though we just enjoy their style. But I think one thing, Mark,
Starting point is 00:31:43 I think it maybe is a little irritating that I've gotten a little into the Falcons this year as a team to watch. But it's just because I didn't believe the team of the last two years, I thought that was premature. Now I think maybe they could be a little bit frisky, maybe. Well, I mean, I feel like we've been battling over this team for a number of seasons. I do believe in them. My slogan is, the son of a shipping magnate.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Our coach is the author of an old school playbook set to stun gun, a soft NFC South. You will be eating our juices on a late winter day. Ew. Gross. Did you say eating the juice? You will be eating our juices on a late winter day. I was wondering if the years of doing these slogans would shorten them. Because you've seen slogans for other companies, certainly, since.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Right. And it would change your behavior, but no. And I like that. Some of them are short. Some of them are not. I think the Falcons could go short, just kind of leaning into who they are as a team this year. Two words. Keep pounding.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Oh. They steal it. They take it. They're the real keep pounding. Wait, we have the real keep pounding guy here and Connor or you just got to let him do it. Give us one, Connor. it's also tradition. Hey, pound it.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I just think, like, the Panthers would be totally on their heels. They are the real key pounding team. Yeah. It'd be amazing. That guy didn't make it out of sixth grade. Whoever that character is. All right. How about the Baltimore Ravens?
Starting point is 00:33:17 I'm sure you got one. Greg, you are a Ravens guy. I do. Another two-worder. Lamar coming. You lean into the wire. you could have a little fun with this too you know Omar coming
Starting point is 00:33:31 and it's like this is the real Lamar Lamar has been shackled get off the street corners Lamar is coming this year now that you say that because I did check out the podcast from last year here here is Greg's Raven slogan from last year
Starting point is 00:33:47 this one's just simple oh you made Lamar mad didn't you? Oh okay the Lamar army is strong with the, Lamar's going to be better because everyone's so mean. Right. Similarly, it would be just like Lamar's going to fuck you.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Yeah, but that had no reference to a classic Baltimore television classic line. That's totally different. But it's the same sentiment. Like, Lamar's here. Everything's going to be fine. But now, now we've gotten rid of Greg Roman.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And it's Todd Munkin for who for some reason everyone just assumes is going to like create the best NFL offense even though like he last ran the $2018 bucks. Yeah. Mine for the Ravens is no excuses. Just kidding. There will always be excuses.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Mine was for the Ravens. Theories as to what caused Edgar Allan Poe's death include suicide, murder, cholera, rabies, syphilis, influenza, a brain tumor, and heavy alcohol usage. Poe, always a target in this exercise. I went with, it's 18 games to the Super Bowl. We have a full tank of gas, one ACL. L, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses. The Buffalo Bills. I got nothing for this one.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Tough one. I just went with sort of an exhausted, like, we did our best. Like, you know, this place, like, it's cold. It's not a fun place to work. We tried. We almost made the Super Bowl. Like, the stadium's falling down, and it's just like, What more do you guys want?
Starting point is 00:35:27 Just, you know, we, we did as best as we could. It's time to move. You can see that slogan on the side of a bill. I can think that fits. I mean, you're working on the NFL preview for Sports Illustrated. Yeah. I can kind of predict where you see them standing in the AFC East come January. You're talking about the organization in the past tense.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I have them because we predict all 272 games. I predict all 272 games every year. And I have them in a place where I know the day that it comes out, I will just be ignoring every phone call from like a 716 area code being like, can you come on the radio and talk about why you don't think the bills are going to make the playoffs? You're definitely getting a call from the Steve Tasker show. Oh, big time. Tasker's hitting you out.
Starting point is 00:36:16 That actually kind of relates to mine, which is our fans are about to turn annoying. And I just feel like they are at the point. Like once you achieve a little bit of success And you start feeling yourself But you haven't gotten over that hump That's the point where the worm turns I just feel like this could be a tough season I'd actually deleted that
Starting point is 00:36:38 Because I didn't want these to be all negative And cynical like they were last year But no one else was jumping in with a bills one They were a tough team They're a tough one They're just a remarkable amount of pressure on that team The Carolina Panthers A big blank spot on my Excel spreadsheet
Starting point is 00:36:51 Yeah because you said like you know When you're inspired to about one of these teams. And I did about 20 to 21 of these. The Panthers did not inspire much. Same. I feel like it's because they have. Maybe that's the slogan.
Starting point is 00:37:04 They have the greatest slogan of all time, Connor. Which is? Why improve on perfection? Oh, listen, is the person who, the only person who apparently completed the prompt here. I'll read the, I'll read the one that I did. My slogan is, death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die day. Bailey, which is a quote from a very famous short assassin named Napoleon, and now they're quarterbacked by another short assassin.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Oh, okay. Wow. There's a linkage there. I think the original is still better. All right, the Chicago Bears. I got this fucking guy better be worth it. They did, they did all the dice here. I think we all kind of agreed with their pets.
Starting point is 00:37:55 but now he's going to do it. Okay, for a second I thought you maybe meant Matt Eberflus or even Ryan Poles. So it allows for interpretation, but that's worked. The bear is that the number one pick? Do you doubt that Fields is about to make a major leap? I said on our last episode, I was a little shook with Nick Shook about being overly confident. So I've been recently transitioned to like cautious optimism around Fields. And if it doesn't work, the bears might look.
Starting point is 00:38:25 back on the events of the spring with an insane amount of regret. But I'm going to try to stay positive. It's unfair because there's like three quarterbacks taken in the top five. So if any of them turn into Hall of Fame type players, you'll always say the Bears pass. Which doesn't happen often. Can you read that again? I love this slogan. Like, can you just?
Starting point is 00:38:43 This fucking guy better be worth it. I'm going to do my Bears slogan, which is more of an attack ad. It's time to start attacking. And it's just love stinks. I think just go straight at Green Bay. One team. Lean into the rivalry because I feel like that's all they really care about Bears fans. They're just kind of like, let's be better than the Packers.
Starting point is 00:39:05 That's our big goal. Love stinks. Plus a little Jay Giles. You got it. Giles in a big spot. Jay Giles is a Keith Hans' favorite. And one few years back, we were, it was a summer and it was playing. Giles came on.
Starting point is 00:39:20 And my dad was like, oh, yeah, he's about to take out the licking stick. and apparently J. Giles called his harmonica, the licking stick. Wait, it's the harmonica? I thought it was guitared just because, yeah, you know, you're... No, the licking stick is the harmonica. Wow. That's just too strange for me. Oh, yeah, he's going to take out the licking stick. Danny, he's taking out the licking stick.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I wish I could have heard that. Do you have one, Connor? I just had, yeah, we can't figure out Chase Claypool either. Okay. So we did give up a premium draft pick for him. Yeah, Bears fans were extremely overreacting to the fact that he started the year on the Pupp list and is already off. It's like, okay, calm down, Bears fans are going to be mad. So I just need to make sure I get this right.
Starting point is 00:40:10 There was a guy in J. Gall's band named Magic Dick. I'm not making up any of this. No, that's true. Magic Dick, aka Lord of the Lickin Stick. And he played his most famous solo was on Whammer Jammer. made famous during his years with Jay Giles' band. That's pretty dense. All real.
Starting point is 00:40:27 All real stuff. He, too, I do not think, graduate in middle school. Like the key pounding guy. All right. That's, what, just because he can wail on the licking stick? I mean, he pretty much based his whole career on, like, a series of, like, middle school double entendres. He called himself Magic Dick and smoke the Lickinstick or whatever. It's like, come on.
Starting point is 00:40:52 No, it's a magic day. a.k.a. Lord of the Lickenstein. It's a tough sell for your future father-in-law if you're sitting down at like a table. What do you do? The Cincinnati Bengals. Let's see here. I've got for the Bengals, Mike Brown, secretly hot.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I have the beholder, bro. He'd rubber stamp that, I would think. Connor. Looking a little older. I mean, I don't think he's a bad-looking guy. Getting older doesn't mean you especially, you know, he can have a little grizzled, you know, vibe to him. I don't, I can't follow that. It's not possible.
Starting point is 00:41:32 But I will say that I was there last year watching him a power walk around the interior of the stadium on like a hot June day randomly. And he saw Joe Burrow, who was doing a cover shoot for us. And just like the look in his eye when he walked over and gave him a hug. that's just like it was it was just like god you'd want that like once in your life to feel that you know that was just like it was special it's very special that's all i'm going to say good context mine is um we're just trying to make nick wessling proud just feel like the bengals despite this incredible success and having joe burrow still hasn't totally won over the commitment of nick wessling this would do it if they could just take that next step what's it going to take
Starting point is 00:42:21 they've been doing pretty well, but they're just trying to make them proud. Really the whole family. Nick endured that Super Bowl loss in person. He did a couple years ago. With great spirit. Yes, they were very good sports about the whole thing. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:34 The Cleveland Browns, Connor, or last year we talked about how you had defected from Brown's fandom. In fact, you had offloaded all Brown's merch from the house. You had become a fan solely of the U.S. women's national team at soccer who were going for another World Cup trophy right now, in fact.
Starting point is 00:42:55 You have anything for the Browns? So I wrote this down after, Greg, I think you responded to it on Twitter. There was the clip of him yesterday talking about how the media totally overshadowed. Deshawn Watson, yeah, the media totally overshadowed the inspiring part of his narrative, which apparently we don't talk enough about. And so the slogan is just kind of from like the PR person. person's perspective, just being like, ah, shi-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h. He's not going to do it. He's not going to say, I'm sorry. No. And it's like, dude, I heard that story 5,000 times, and it was inspiring. It was
Starting point is 00:43:38 all about his college career all the four or five years. It's like, no, it hasn't been mentioned as much over the last year. I'm still going to be more positive, though, with the Browns. and the slogan is, we're getting Mark and Connor back. How about that? Well, we'll see about that. We're going to get them back. I mean, Connor was always kind of a fake Browns fan anyways.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Ouch. I never really felt the passion from him, but they're going to get you guys back. I don't think that's tough to predict. I don't think you're too sure about that. I didn't even include Connor. Connor's gone. He's supporting the women's national team.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I got, pst, Mark, come on back. Nobody's looking. Well, here's mine then. Spotted 40 million miles away and drifting through antimatter, our soul. The Dow's Cowboys, Popcorn, check, wine, check, true crime doc, check. Oh, yeah, it's cuddle time with Zaddy. Oh, Zaddy, you're so extra. Just lean into the Mike McCarthy of it all, because the Cowboys certainly have.
Starting point is 00:44:46 We've had deep conversations, Dan and I, about why. why he considers Mike McCarthy to be a Zaddy. And it only led me to realize that you and I define Zaddy in very different ways. But you have your own definition, and he fits squarely in that world. Yes and no. I think Dan, I mean, I don't want to get too deep into this, but I think Dan sees Mike McCarthy as more of a sexual being than you do, Mike. That may be true.
Starting point is 00:45:13 That's weird that you would bring the sexual side into it. I see more as like a warm figure that. Figure of protection and somebody that you'd like to watch True Crime Docs with, especially after he starts the fire. And it's not one of those ones that you turn on with the key. And it's the gaslit one with the fake logs. It's like he went and chopped the wood in the backyard. He built a triangular log pattern. He started it himself, the fire.
Starting point is 00:45:41 He actually even picked out the wine. But so this is what I mean. I think he knows that he is a he knows his wine. A secure source of protection and power. And I see you'd want to be doing something else with this Addy, then watch a movie. I mean, yeah. I mean, that's where we differ, I guess.
Starting point is 00:45:57 That's where we differ. Anybody else have one for the Cowboys, Conner? I've shot through the heart. You give Dak a bad name. Brian Chottonheimer. Oh, wow. Dak, yeah. Major plotline.
Starting point is 00:46:12 What's that look? Wait, Brian, it's from the perspective of Brian Schottonimer, or it's talking about Brian Schottenheimer, what's going on? I suppose that he will make Dack Prescott worse. Like if I had to do like the Google suggested sentence for this, it was just like the Cowboys are going to suck this year because of that, because of. Yeah, as someone who likes to defend DAC coming off like his worst slash most unlucky season,
Starting point is 00:46:39 combining Schottenheimer and an offensive line coach who was around in the 80s and McCarthy calling plays. doesn't fill me with a lot of excitement. What about the old Patriots offensive line coach that we wrote poems about? Dante's like a million years old. I'm just saying. I was literally three.
Starting point is 00:46:58 He was a wizard. He was 300 years old, that guy. I mean, Mike Solari's done many good things, but he also coached once with Tom Landry. So that seems crazy. Yeah. How about, unless anybody else got one there? The Denver Broncos.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I've got one for the Broncos. Denver Broncos. we took Russell Wilson's corner office away now he must work on his laptop somewhere else and print documents on the company printer not his own ha ha at least he has a laptop Mr. Unlimited
Starting point is 00:47:30 You know sometimes like at the content summit that's what they call it now it's not the talent summit it's a content summit you hear some whisper That's why Mark I didn't go this year once they took talent out of the title I was like well we'll send Greg Why would I attend?
Starting point is 00:47:43 You know you hear some whispers of people who would seem to know better, no better than me, certainly. And there was certainly, there was this vibe that like, oh, yeah, he's going to, he's going to axe Russell Wilson like by mid-October at the first sign of problem that this is not a long term.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Oh, I totally believe that. Okay. Yeah. I felt like it was more than just a vibe that, like, the leash will be short. I have something that I think is in direct relation to that, and it's Russell Wilson at this crossroads of his career. Remember the defender or the opponent who said late in last season
Starting point is 00:48:21 that Russell Wilson was like a sack of potatoes physically, a shot at his conditioning, which he's been working on a lot. The Denver Broncos, I got you sack of potatoes right here! And then a crude gesture, crude gesture with his hands. You cannot top that. I like it when the slogan includes like a motion and a way that you say it, which mine kind of does too, which is, 420, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Ow! It's because, like, people love it in Denver. Yeah. People love it in Denver. How about you, Con? I went with Jared Stidham. He's our mile high boy. He's, I, when he, remember when he's like, he threw for like 400 yards in that one game last year?
Starting point is 00:49:08 And you forgot. And then he took off the helmet and he had that, like, just that really thick mop of, black hair and you're just like wow this is this is a guy like if i if i knew nothing about football i'd be like let's sign him to like a let's sign him to like a five year hundred million dollar contract just let him sling it targeted on the first day of free agency aggressively by sean he'd look good in a patagonia vest on a billboard that's all i'm saying interesting all right how about connor let's uh keep rolling with the detroit lions we're only a d connor's do it like a packers camp in ten
Starting point is 00:49:46 minutes I went with lions we're going to hug you harder um every year um during the draft they have those videos of their war room and uh Brad Holmes their GM and Dan Campbell hug each other with such like thunderous uh it's like the whole room shakes and I can't imagine the sound of like the smacking flesh and like the back slaps and stuff it's just got to be it's got to be a wild thing, you know? Different vibe. Mark? I have for the lions. Good luck locating an actual line in Detroit, but we all buy into certain collective
Starting point is 00:50:25 myths if you think about it. Very good. Okay. Along those same lines for the Packers, I have, hey, we bamboozled fans with fake ownership stock. Why can't we do it with a fake QB? Dang. This stock thing has always been on Dan's radar. I think they filled the stadium with stockholders recently this week. It was like a stockholder meeting, but it's just like they're sitting in the crowd.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Oh, the paper, frame paper in the living room, people got to go inside the stadium and buy like hot dogs and beers for $12 each. And yeah, like a, didn't they raise money from them? They had like another sale of it. Like literally they're the only team where you see the books. The government has to get involved with this at a certain point. They're bringing hundreds of millions of dollars of reference. it's like it's like when someone really rich does it go fund me it's just like
Starting point is 00:51:18 i don't even like connor i don't know for some reason antitrust violation just came into my head does that does that track here has that been anything to do with what's going on here i like how you cut to me when you needed to know the like the down low on an antitrust violation i will say that i having spent a lot of time there i went to uh door to door and i was interviewing fans once and there was this old woman who i was talking to her about like you know moving on from brett farve or something and she um she asked she invited me into her house she gave me homemade caramels and then she took down my phone number and she said listen like sometimes the weather gets unpredictably bad here so i'm just going to keep you know i want to keep tabs with you until i
Starting point is 00:52:05 know that you're home safe she called me during a snowstorm and said that i could stay in their house and the packers are selling stock to this poor woman i feel like we were always getting 75% of the story or the relationship behind connor's uh tar parables with these the old man he met this woman in a house i think they believe in their guy what a what a wonderful woman she sounds so sweet i like incredible don't take advantage of her no did she critique your body we never would you never know uh how about crazy in love you know there you go just lean into it be more positive so you had two love play well that was the thing i thought we were doing it by division and then they were going to be in a row and it would like there's a couple
Starting point is 00:52:50 of these happening i'm having to to pivot but you know what yeah people didn't think um necessarily bionthe was going to get it done uh as a solo artist uh when she left destiny's child really and then she comes in with crazy and love as her first single and everyone's in okay everyone probably expected her to do well. The once-in-a-generation entertainer that Beyonce knows. I don't make her call, like, for that to be your debut single. I'm just saying for that to be your debut single. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:20 It's pretty strong. They kept on firing all the Destiny's children except for Beyonce, and it was like, hmm, that seems like a hint that there's probably one good one. Plus, her mom was they in that scenario. And the dad, I think, was probably involved, too. Yeah, that's a fair point. Um, the Texans. I got nothing. I have, um, the Texans don't rebuild. They reload.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Nice. Okay. I went with, um, like you have to say it almost in a voice where like you picture Bill Belichick on a, um, on one of those ear pieces. And he's connected to, um, Nick Casario on another earpiece. And it just says, um, terminate false flag operation. You can come on home, Nick. And basically, like, the idea being that he's, he's completely erased this franchise from contention for the next decade. Seems like a negative route to go as the slogan for the team, but, yeah, it's like,
Starting point is 00:54:23 plus the Titans took their, uh, the Oilers throwbacks. It's just like, it's almost like when you get hacked by a super hacker, like the hacker then takes credit for it. And so like, yeah, you know, once, it is almost like that. Yeah, so, like, week one, all the Texan signage will just be replaced with pictures of, like, Bill Belichick wearing dog sunglasses or something. The Indianapolis Colts, don't worry, everything's cool. Jim Ursa is in complete charge now. Nothing to worry about.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I have an owner-related one, too, for the cults. Our owner spent a hill of money on the teletype scroll that Jack Kerouac used right on the road, and nobody seems to give a shit. You believe that should have been a bigger story. What happened? The original role. Right there in this team slogan. On the road. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:13 He bought it. Jim Mersey bought it. What's wrong with that? He has a bunch of calls. No, he's saying, why wasn't it a bigger deal? I said nobody gives a shit. Should have been a national story. It should have been a large narrative.
Starting point is 00:55:21 That's a very important book to you and millions of others. And others. I don't know if that's a team slogan. I feel like that's a personal issue or grievance you have with a culture or society. But now you know where you go see it. I think. you know the Ursae collection coming soon me you Ursa and Mike Mills all chilling checking out the scrolls so it's been a while since I feel like the cults have had like real good time so I'm
Starting point is 00:55:48 thinking back to about a decade ago when we were just starting this this podcast and trying to try to live off of that and so I'm going to go stikin strong it's like remember those good times with Chuck Pagano yeah we do Pagano strong and he came back let's bring get back. Scyken strong. Chuck Pagano and Bruce Ariens, co-coaches of the year. It happened.
Starting point is 00:56:12 It's a true story. Anything, Connor? I was, I did some of these last night, and so I'm looking at my notes under Colts, and it just says, no. Okay. So I don't think I have anything. All right, boys, let's take a quick break,
Starting point is 00:56:27 and then we'll finish up the slogans on the other side. All right, we're back. How about the Jaguars? Yeah, I got one. Duvall! Except those two weeks in London. Oh. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Yes. How about that, Connor? Anything? I don't have anything, but did you know that they're like the third most populous city east of the Mississippi River? Well, that's interesting. I would not have thought that. Has there been a recent boom in the population? Or was this east of the Mississippi?
Starting point is 00:57:02 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So who are ahead of them? New York and Boston? And it's New York and Boston. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? New York, Boston, and then Jacksonville. Bigger than Philadelphia. Bigger than the rest of Florida. My bar trivia team got that answer. Yeah, would not. What about Atlanta? I don't know about this thing. I don't know. Fake news. It's you. It's, I report you. Miami? Miami. Did you say Atlanta? Yeah, I mean, I don't know about this.
Starting point is 00:57:33 D.C.? You know, maybe it must be a huge city. There was a lot of head scratching when the Jaguars or Jacksonville was chosen as the expansion site. We have a Jacksonville. What's that all about? Well, you know, look who laughs last. Now the third biggest population. And it's not Boston.
Starting point is 00:57:48 I guess Philly is there east of the Mississippi. And I think I guess Jacksonville is up to third. How about the Chiefs? God, I hope what I said was true. Let's go. It's too late. Chiefs, defending champs. What do you got?
Starting point is 00:58:00 anybody going once going we don't have a slogan i got one i didn't love which is just these are the good old days let's like let's like enjoy the present this is it don't complain these are the good old days right now um what chiefs fan is complaining no buddy but you know if they lose a couple games or whatever by the way later this week we will offer some of our thoughts about quarterback the netflix series that involves patrick mahomes prominently have you been watching that Connor no because Because I think 90% of that is just terrible bullshit. Like, it's just like, and this goes back to like a rant that.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Like a high school tour is walking by right now as you said those words. It was very disorienting. Like one of them literally waved while you said that. Just imagine there being a live speaker that had the audio of the show going through, coursing through the hallways. It's not the case. They're taking pictures now. all this stuff about like oh inside the mind of a quarterback like he memorizes plays and
Starting point is 00:59:07 throws the ball and it's like yeah man and we work hard at what we have to do like we're all amazing and you know i uh you know i i just don't like i mulch my lawn and i read my kid bedtime no netflix eight part documentary on you yeah but i think you're hitting on something which is maybe like we could we don't need them going to an amusement park for five minutes there's nothing interesting about that. Stuff like that, let's tighten it up. It takes you closer inside. Right, but when they're doing the exact same things that we do in our lives,
Starting point is 00:59:39 but they're not that interesting, take out those parts. You know what I mean? I was concerned the minute that I spotted this show because I knew we'd have to at some point unpack it verbally, and it was like, it's eight, I have to go watch eight episodes of a football show in July. Don't complain about it. You don't have to. Don't have to.
Starting point is 00:59:57 All right. Well, I felt like it was, you know, being tasked to me to do something. So I side closely to where Conra comes down. Maybe I'm just a rube. I've been enjoying it. I like getting to know Kirk Cousins and Mahomes better. But there's certainly the side of that Connor. Well, I don't, and I've not seen it.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I'm not taking down the product. It just felt like a bit of a store. I think we would appreciate that. You don't need to watch it and then complain. Man, star quarterback's there just like us. Maybe that's me. I'm three Eps in. I'm three Eps in.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I won't get to eight by Thursday whenever we talk about it. but it's like the perfect thing to have on while you're eating lunch and not let me just clarify mark you are not tasked with watching any episodes Greg i'll need you to put down all eight Thursday yeah right Greg i'm not going to rate us i'll get i'll get through the four through whatever it's a eight hours a long time you want to talk your shit talk your life the raiders the raiders the raiders i went with uh diane please get jim harbaugh on the line Davis. It's so.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Definitely a Diane answering phones in that facility. Undoubtedly. 100% chance. Yeah, it does, it does feel like it's heading in a certain direction in Los Vegas. Yeah, but I want to think, I want to think positive.
Starting point is 01:01:14 And I think they just go, Jimmy G is better. Like everyone's just Jimmy G. is better. Then what? You can fill in the, sure. I can create my own.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I think that's probably where they're going with that. It's like, everyone, you know, the rate, you just lean into, like, kicking Derek Carr a little bit on the way out. And, and they believe it. Jimmy G. is better. They're calling their shot. Better looking, better, better everything. Jimmy G. is better.
Starting point is 01:01:42 These slogans should be promoting their team. I thought it was just like, with this whole Jimmy G thing, the goal is for, like, be as good as Derrick Carr was, but just be cheaper. Are they expecting him to be better than Derek Carr? I think so. Okay. But a slogan often can do something that's not true, too. You can just, you're just trying to create an aura. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Thank you, Mark. How about the chargers? I got don't trust us. Just like getting it. Well, that works. Yeah. How about those powder blues? You want to be positive, Greg?
Starting point is 01:02:11 How about this? Trust us. And then just like open arms. See, that's kind of funnier because it's the chargers. That would be good. That would be good. Anything, Connor? No, I'm looking at like the next three or four.
Starting point is 01:02:25 And I really mailed this section. Let me get to it. I'm with you. I think I'm going to pop in. It's okay. Not every team. All right. I hit a dry spell in these K through L teams.
Starting point is 01:02:36 So you did out half the exercise in that badical order and then you started to trail off in the back end. A little bit. I mean, there's some hotspots coming up. Did you do it by division, Greg, or alphabetically? Because you haven't made it clear so far in today's episode. It's really ruined everything. How about the... Callbacks are just ruined.
Starting point is 01:02:54 You know we did do it alphabetically last year. I didn't recall that because I had the same question. in mind. The L.A. Rams. I have on-field record aside. We still see ourselves as smarter than you.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Oh. I do feel that way about the Rams. Mine is, Sean's having fun again. I feel like that's a lot of it this year. It's sort of just like,
Starting point is 01:03:19 hey, we may not go win the Super Bowl, but Sean's having a good time. Yeah, you could sense that. How about the Miami Dolphins? I have two slogans. they have them they have them ready uh for september well july august september october two a time baby and then november and december and maybe january it's a white party baby
Starting point is 01:03:39 they're covered what they're covered both sides either way yeah and it's not like the the white out like at a heat game or anything like that but it could have a little double sure and also baby is just b a b y for two of but for mike white it's b a y high high That's very versatile. I like that. Thank you. I have for the dolphins. If your job allows you to gamble on pro football, place a $500 ante on Miami reaching the AFC title game. P.S. actual Dolphins of the Sea know your deepest secrets and will tell your mother and father on you. Even if you're old, they will tell your parents everything you ever did. You can't hide anymore. You will be revealed. We know what you do in the shadows.
Starting point is 01:04:25 You're totally banged. can't trust them can't trust them at all minnesota vikings i went with sorry ed don't tell this wasn't your fault just because like last year during games like Troy achman who never says a bad word about anyone would just insult this man like he was a terrorist and he's just like the sweetest looking guy with glasses and you're just like why why they yelling at him so much and I don't know figure it kind of seemed like it was his fault though they had a lot of talent and they were terrible we'll see yeah that's what I'm alluding the defense that is they the defense was horrendous and it closed out with a total flatlining against the Giants in the playoffs and I guess an early talking point in the off season was after they hired Brian Flores so we all like and respect and has the has a pedigree he was like well they're going to be better now it's like well a coach can do a lot but he needs some. Hallen. They have less talent now than they did last year when they were terrible. If anything, they cut players
Starting point is 01:05:32 and cut costs. Interesting. All right. How about the New England Patriots? This is more a pitch to get people to come to the games. Witness the collapse of Rome in person. I've got
Starting point is 01:05:48 some meat in the seats, you know? I've got two. First one is Kraft versus Belichick. It's on. It's kind of fun. Yeah. Big name. And then the second one's related.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Craft versus Belichick versus Hall of Fame induction versus death. So it's like, it's a race. Who wins the race? I like the first one. It's a little more direct. I picture like the old boxing or UFC thing where their nose-to-nose, the profile shots. I'm in. I have item.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Bill Belichick has a secret daughter nobody knows about. Like you. That's why you like him so much. There's parallels. How about the Saints? I got Greg. You're not referring to Amanda, by the way, the excellent lacrosse coach. Well, she's not a secret.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I mean, she's out in the open. Another one. A second daughter. Yes. Big time lacrosse coach. I got Saints. Greg will talk himself into 10 wins by Labor Day. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Yeah, mine is somewhat related, which is Derek Carr solves everything. Everything. Do everything. Anything? I have, um, see this tab about. Upon it is etched the image of an innocent, innocent pink kitty. Place it on your tongue and join our dream journey in which we pretend our quarterback is better than ho-hum. Ouchers.
Starting point is 01:07:08 All right. How about the giants, the giants? Connor, you're close to the Giants. Got anything? No. I like, well, I thought this is the section you nailed. No, no, we're still at the tail end of the one where I didn't. I would just say, like, you know, it would have to be like a swirling brandy kind of motion.
Starting point is 01:07:33 And it would have to just be like, come, watch us do things the right way. That's really good. We're a Tiffany franchise, after all. Mine would be the third best team in New York or the second best team in New Jersey, depending on how you look at it. I like it. I got Daniel Jones makes $40 million a year now. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 01:07:54 Why are these all so caustic? It's really tough. Don't worry about it. It's all right. It's a little bit of a razzing, if you will. You can look at it that way, too. It's a little bit of, like, a little bitter drink before the start. You know, you do some of these, and, like, I'm looking at my Giants one,
Starting point is 01:08:10 and I'm not going to read it. Okay. It went a little too far. Yeah. Too hot. I'm realizing now it would not be valuable. How about the New York Jets? I'm going to refer to something that Greg put on my radar.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Can we get that Woody Johnson tweet from recently? There he is. It's a picture of Woody with a caption New profile pick and then the eyes emoji that is the slogan from my
Starting point is 01:08:35 new profile pick eyes emoji does he even know that is out there yes I you know when I texted it to you guys because it just made me laugh but then I realized
Starting point is 01:08:47 quickly he was doing a preview of the new uni so actually it was kind of it really was that he had the old logo on the hat And it was like a little, it was a little hip thing about, like, okay, the users are coming tomorrow. So good job. You know, speaking of Woody and the Jets and Hard Knocks is kicking off soon and everything,
Starting point is 01:09:06 I hate to say this because I don't want this to be the peak of the jet season. But they've already, in some ways, organizationally, this has been a success already. Right. This is all they wanted was to be a team that people cared about that's part of the national conversation that has everyone buzzing about the organization in a positive way as a team that, matters like that's why they gave up the extra draft pick that's why they're doing this uh i hope it goes beyond that but the history of this team tells me like this is even enough what they've already been able to achieve this summer they they've had off seasons in the past that brought
Starting point is 01:09:41 hope and this one feels like i just worry about the potential collective collapse if it doesn't go well out of the gate their schedule is rough but at this point like i can't imagine as a jets fan that you've ever been on a higher cloud than this it's very excited I knew that you would come after the Patriots are So even though I think the Jets are going to be pretty good this year I'm going New York Jets high on our own supply They certainly are I have something similar
Starting point is 01:10:08 It's we believe it's possible that we're more than just a vastly concocted offseason fable I went with time to suck out loud I like a little I like a little bitter with the sweet I think it helps to balance things out How about the eagles? My Eagles one is the best thing to ever happen to the 76ers. It's like Embed might be going. James Harden wants out.
Starting point is 01:10:39 They're disappointing every year. It's like no one cares anymore. Get the Eagles. That's true. Anything, Mark? Not for the Eagles. All right. I had hurt so good.
Starting point is 01:10:48 And then I have imagine John Mellencamp, the Heartland Rocker, and matching denim jeans jacket posing with a thumbs up. on the steps of the Philadelphia Museum of Art. I like that. It's perfect. Thank you. What about like Hertz just okay, as it turns out, after Shane Steichen left? He's just, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:11:08 There you go. I found my slogans from last year after you brought it up on a dock. And yeah, actually, that's a first repeat slogan that I had Hurts so good. I owe you $10. Yeah. The Steelers. I have one for this. We agree that sports-based talking head
Starting point is 01:11:29 Mark Sessler is dangerously overrated, but his assertion that will win double-digit games this season is on point. I like that. It's a good pop for you, too. They would put it in the team slogan. Kind of. I mean, getting slashed a little bit. All right, how about
Starting point is 01:11:44 let's leave that one there. How about the 49ers? We are the Monstars. That's my 49ers. Oh, yes. Space Jam, ref. They just like they look the best getting off a bus of any team in the end. Connor?
Starting point is 01:12:01 I was toying with the idea of like something about how at some point all brain power decays, right? And so they can only be like 49ers. We can only be smarter than you for another few years. That's good. But the window is open right now. How about the Seahawks? I somehow didn't have a Seahawks. Really?
Starting point is 01:12:25 I don't know. Wow. I assumed Greg Wood. Yeah. I was like clearing the runway. Yeah, I was like, I don't even need to touch Seattle.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Connor? Wow. Yeah. Sorry, Seahawks fans. Yeah. Yeah. Let's jump ahead to Tampa.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I'm ready for this. All right. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Seattle fans not happen. All right. I got to come out by the end of the show. You do. My slogan for Tampa was just hope you all enjoyed that depressing-ass pandemic Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Oh. Like, it's just the word. It was the worst time to go all in, right, and win a Super Bowl because no one will remember that moment in NFL history. It's watched on TV. I get it. One was there and it was like diminished a little, but I don't think the players care. I think they had like the fans care that.
Starting point is 01:13:11 10,000 there was a scant amount of fans. It would be, it's like baseball through the height of like World War II. It's like who cares? There was so much more consequential historical stuff going on. I pushed back against this one. Can I say that I hear where you're coming from, Connor? Living, it's even crazier looking back that we did a full season of NFL coverage and we all did it from our homes and it was every game got played.
Starting point is 01:13:39 The NFL just said we're not going to move at all on this. And then like living in L.A., you know, there's Dodgers fans everywhere. Now the Dodgers, I'll just keep this between us, but like the Dodgers played a 50 games. season or something. It started at the end of July and then played in alternate sites in front of nobody and won the World Series. That's a little different.
Starting point is 01:14:04 And then I talked to Dodger fans. Like, oh, yeah, well, we ended that long stretcher that a World Series championship in 2020. It's like, not really. Oh, you don't find that. See, to me, like, if baseball did this all the time and went 50 game regular season, I'm all in. I can, I like the way that that season played out. But I see, you don't find it legitimate. But the NFL season played a full season. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Well, the Steelers Ravens game on Wednesday at like 10 a.m. Remember that? They got it in. Had to get it in. All right. How about the, sorry, Dodgers fans, but you know it's kind of true. How about the Titans? We got two more.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Tennessee Titans. Sorry, guys. Actually, I did have one, which was, is it, but I referred to this earlier. Is it weird we're wearing Oilers throwbacks? It's very weird. They look awesome. So I kind of can't blame them. They own the IP there.
Starting point is 01:14:57 And you think the Texans should be annoyed of that? No, maybe not the Texans. It's just weird. It's strange. I mean, Albert Breer asked why can't the Ravens just do throwback uniforms since the Cleveland Browns? Right. I had a legit takeaway from those, though. It's like they put Henry and Tannahill in those throwbacks.
Starting point is 01:15:14 I'm like, well, they're definitely not trading Tanao if they put him in that throwback. I guess I should have given that up a while ago. Yeah. You know, it was weird when they were actually for a year or two, the Tennessee Oilers. That was strange. They were playing in an old college stadium. They weren't. They were.
Starting point is 01:15:29 They changed it right away. They played an old college stadium. I'm pretty sure they were the Tennessee Oilers. Titans, late 90s. I think they started as the Titans. We need gravedigger right now for that. Finally, the Washington commanders. Connor, you got one?
Starting point is 01:15:44 I got two. The first one was, here come the Red Wolves, because we're going to finally buy the trademark. We're going to change the name, and we're going to get it right. And it's very, very exciting. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but Magic Johnson did the media rounds
Starting point is 01:16:01 after the sale went through and Snyder was ousted officially. And he left the door open for changing the team name again. So I know that he's not the principal owner or anything, but if Magic is saying that... Josh Harris, the principal owner said it too. If Josh Harris, the owner's saying they're open to it,
Starting point is 01:16:19 that makes me think it's going to happen. I think it's happening. And it's not like there's going to be pushing. back from outside saying no we need to stick with the commanders that's going to probably happen and it's going to go from redskins to Washington football team to commanders for like two years and then maybe they'll settle one for the rest of time that's pretty wild like weird it well it's unprecedented for NFL but it's like I understand it you're cleansing this organization from right I like I like it I mean Dan Snyder should have listened to people and changed the name
Starting point is 01:16:48 20 years ago then then they wouldn't have had to go through all this uh which is is related to mine, which is winless without Dan Snyder is better than undefeated with him. I mean, it's like they won their Super Bowl. That would have been my other one. Like, we won the Super Bowl on July 16th, whatever day that was. I have, before our home opener against the Cardinals, fans will be given the chance in our courtyard pavilion to paint the unclothed body of Daniel Snyder. We plan to offer a full of variety of colors in both acrylic and oil.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Each fan will be given a five-minute window to draw upon Snyder's torso or other parts of your choosing. I'm surprised he would agree to that, but he did apparently. He willingly agreed. Connor, you've said it all. I do have my Seahawks one. Oh, you do. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Ready. Yes. Finally. And it's, if you thought Gino outplaying Russell Wilson was fun last year, just wait until Gino buries them this time around. Well, we got it. Something. Who do we really?
Starting point is 01:17:52 rover who do we bang love that who got nothing well quite a few there in the middle of the alphabet um i think everyone got got at least a half-hearted one and what there were tennessee oilers was a thing for a brief time my yeah my fault there 98 was it i totally didn't remember that you you were right all right played uh in van at vanderbilt uh only uh for one season in memphis for one season and you're right they were the oilers those two seasons uh and then weird weird weird weird weird weird uh connor or you've said it all you could read connor at s i dot combe you also have um an excellent podcast that i recently uh was a guest on that was nice nice little combo there
Starting point is 01:18:36 buddy the mcuby podcast anything else you want to get out there buddy boy no just everybody enjoy the remainder of your summer football is going to be here but just you know don't don't Don't rush to it, you know, just it'll, it'll find you. You know, give yourself in August and don't think about training camp at all. I mean, we don't have the luxury. Right. I mean, don't you want people to listen to your podcast and our podcast? No, no, not until, no, not until like September 12th.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Like spend, spend the rest of this time with your family, go find sunshine, and, you know, just, just be outside. That's my, that's my thought. That should please your employer. Touch grass. All right, Connor. That's our company slogan. Don't read until September 12th. All right, there he goes.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Thank you, bud. Before we say goodbye to this entire show, though, we got some breaking news here. Hit it. The Cowboys and two-time Pro Bowl cornerback, Trayvon Diggs, are finalizing a five-year, $97 million contract extension, according to Tom Pellasero's source. What a show for the Pellraiser. And it is annoying now
Starting point is 01:19:50 when you see the Twitter link put into our chat client it's just got a big X but it says Twitter next to it so it's very confusing but it's a time of transition it's very annoying like the commanders of websites right now
Starting point is 01:20:03 I'm choosing not to be outraged by any of it I'm a little surprised because I thought Diggs was it was good last year I wouldn't say he was great like he wasn't as boomer bus he didn't have the big interception stuff
Starting point is 01:20:16 so it's a big show of but basically no good players get to free agency, so I also get it. CB1s get paid big money. That's the anti-running-back. 17 career picks, and he's 24 years old. And, yeah, a Gerard Jones Cowboys-type player. Is he making more money than his brother now? The bills are like, oh, shoot, now I've got to deal with this, too.
Starting point is 01:20:37 If you were like the mother and father of the two Diggs brothers, like you're doing fine because there's a lot of money coming up the chain, I believe, to the parental units. And future generations. set up very nicely Trayvon's a beautiful boy who he had to meet during the hard knocks you know
Starting point is 01:20:54 he set up he set up nicely too not personally we didn't meet him personally yeah the television I think Stefan's doing fine in this country speaking of that
Starting point is 01:21:02 of the Netflix football special I heard you appear in it your voice does my voice does and I did I did check the credits I said well they get you know
Starting point is 01:21:12 and they credited good morning football and the four stars of that program as they should because they're all over that series. No, you know, special thanks. No mention the old Zusser like, hey, tugboat, we're going to use some of your
Starting point is 01:21:27 dialogue to make a point about the Vikings and whether they can be trusted. A little shout out to tugboat. No, nothing. What was it on NFL network? Was it like power ranking said, a GMFB? I believe, and I'm using context clues. I don't think it was pulled from our podcast.
Starting point is 01:21:42 It was probably from a good morning football appearance. So, yes, that's, but you know what am i going to do about it am i going to file a lawsuit against my own company for the use of my i would be intriguing well they didn't use my name or my likeness they didn't put the mug on the screen i mean if i'm dmfee i'm thinking they leaned on us pretty hard to kind of frame the story and move it forward i don't think they're paid for that so it's like they kind of saved they got the special thanks on getting uh you know talking heads to to do that sort of stuff they just use clips they use some like colin coward clips or it's just like
Starting point is 01:22:17 was this recorded for this show Is Coward even Does he know what's going on with the He has a podcast He has a podcast He has a daily radio show And talks about the NFL all the time Yeah
Starting point is 01:22:30 That's as far as I'll go with that They're not too dialed into the coward universe I respect it All right good stuff Great to be back in the studio We've got two more shows coming up This week So be there for that
Starting point is 01:22:43 Mark we have some behind the scenes Planning meetings the day's just beginning here at NFL media studios and surrounding territories. I'm just finding out about this now. And next week we're going to have, yes, a full week of shows, including the premiere
Starting point is 01:22:58 of the Hard Knocks podcast with Connie and I will do a preview of week one, which will follow after that. So a lot of stuff coming. And a lot of planning, Mark. A lot of stuff to do. All right. Well, I was about to do. We'll start, Mark. We back, baby. Football is back.
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