NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Teams with the Most Urgency, Dalvin Cook Landing Spots and Travel Tips with Frags

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus and Gregg Rosenthal take a look at the urgency level for teams headed into next season. Before the urgency begins, the heroes discuss some of the news from around the league, including Dalvin Cook's planned release from the Vikings (03:45), Colts cornerback Isaiah Rodgers' getting caught betting on Colts games (11:30), DeAndre Hopkins visiting the Titans (15:30) and Mike McCarthy's latest press conference gem (21:08). After the break, the heroes tell you why the AFC East as a whole may have the most urgency (28:35) and why the Eagles (36:45) and Browns (39:45) should feel a good amount of pressure headed into next season. The heroes wrap up the show with a visit from friend of the show, Alex Fragola, to give you some travel tips headed into summer (52:25).  Note: Time codes approximateNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast. The history is rich. It sure is. Ten years from the Chris Wessling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansis. I got a hero here.

Greggy Rosenthal. It is almost weird to talk about how the history is rich without Colleen. I've said statement, but we'll get through it. Also weird when you call me Greggie. That was really only a Debbie Rosenthal thing. But now it's popping up. My kids sometimes call me Greggie here or there, or my daughter really just.

It's disrespectful, frankly. I feel like I've called you Gregy for a couple of years now. You've been in the mix. 10 years ago this month, actually. Right? Is that right? June 8th is the date as we're taping. I moved out here June 1st. So you're...

There it is. June 1st, and that was 2012, 2013. July is when we started around the NFL as a foursome, the podcast, that is. How about that? Like a month later. 2013, I was out here. West came out.

No, a year in a month. One month later. No, I started with the NFL that year before, but I had that weird year in New York and West was hired in Tybee. Got it. I came out in June. He came out in July, and we were recording like three weeks later. Crazy.

Today, Mark is on a quest. of some kind we don't ask questions where's mark spiritual perhaps it's perhaps spiritual um i was out on monday hope everything went well mark should be back next week if everything goes well with his quest i feel confident he'll be back no i think just a couple of his friends are in town he said so i don't want to get people nervous like greg that mark went into like a commune or something that will happen just it's not yet or like started leading the cult that i've rumored that if we get here's our promise to the listeners about mark why are we talking about if it goes badly mark uh starts wearing red sneakers or um starts to give up vibes of cult leader

in a tangible way we're going to give you a heads up so it doesn't you don't get blindsided because this show got blindsided recently nobody likes getting blindsided we will make sure that doesn't happen with mark entering the cult now today's show we got actually some news greggie that's not bad For June 8, there's some actual stuff to talk about. I think it was all the mini-camps happening this week. There will be more even next week, but just, like, made people act. So I'm happy to have an actual chunky news say. Mm-hmm.

And for today's conversation piece, we'll call it. urgency. The teams that have the most urgency. entering 2020 we usually call it a seg you don't want to call it a sec it's a conversation an information information portal uh yeah the seg is we're going to talk the urgency rankings uh or the urgency ratings we're figuring out uh for teams entering 20 23 and uh it's an interesting convo i'm looking forward to having it greggie because uh it's a little uh there's some nuance to it you know it's like it's not just like oh everybody it's like win the super ball it's like we know that what's real

and what's not, and different teams have different goals, but some teams have urgency that are higher level than other teams. And one team at a 0.0 on my urgency scale. I think I know the same team. It had my lowest mark as well. Did they, but higher than 0.0? I didn't put, I put one as the lowest. I don't know why I just thought one could be the lowest.

The gentleman's zero. All right, before we do that, though, let's hit the news. Cousins, back to pass, green left to Dalvin, turns it up outside of the numbers of the 40, gets to the 50. He's lost. Delvin, 20 to the left. 15, 10, 5, touchdown. Delvin Cook, yes, yes, a 64-yard touchdown.

And he had to drag a Colt into the end zone. Oh, my goodness. The immortal Paul Allen on the call for KFAN. That was back in December. Dalvin Cook caught a short pass from Kirk Cousins, patting Cousins' stats. in numerous categories as he rumbled 64 yards for a touchdown. The Vikings then got a two-point conversion, Gregi,

then kick the field on overtime. They won 39-36 over the Colts after trailing 33, nothing at the half, the biggest comeback in NFL history and one kind of forgotten because the Vikings went one and done in the playoffs. The Colts are already in like packing in mode in a disaster that year. But in the moment, by the way,

I locked up the Vikings in this game. I remember watching it with Lakeisha. It was bothering me. It was wild that they locked it up for me. Kind of slept on as one of the craziest games ever. I don't think it will be forgotten. I mean, you're right. Like, it should be remembered more.

But that's the mark now. It's the greatest comeback in the NFL history. The fact that the Chargers and blew an almost as big a lead in the playoffs maybe took some shine away. Jeez, that's, yeah, G.C. That was like three or four weeks later. All right, let's get into it. So, yes, Dalvin Cook, that was the man on that play. And he's had some great.

moment, certainly with Minnesota over a career that at age 27 has already included four trips to the Pro Bowl. However, the Dalvin Cook era in Minnesota is over NFL Network Insider Tom Pelliserro. More in Pellasero in a moment, by the way, reported that the Vikings and Cook are expected to part ways and it's supposed to go down officially on Friday unless there could be a last minute trade here, but it's very likely here. that it ends with Cook hitting the open market. Greggy, a couple of years ago, he's in the conversation as one of the best running backs in the league.

Minnesota is in a bit of a transition. But what's really behind this? How does he end up no longer part of their future? I think it's curious. They love Alexander Madison. They signed them to a low-cost contract. They put them as their Twitter header and took away Dalvin Cook status as the Twitter header like two months ago.

So this move was coming. And I think they were trying to get. a trade going, maybe some draft picks, didn't happen. I think Dalvin Cook can still play. Then I hear from some smart Vikings fans that, like Eric Eager, who used to work at PFF, thinks Cook is a little cooked. I don't see that. I know he wasn't as explosive a year ago.

He still averaged 4.4 yards per carry. You saw that long touchdown. He had some big plays. He's still good as a receiver. He's turning 28. To me, he's easily the best running back that's actually hit free agency this offseason because all the good ones, Pollard. in Jacobs and Sequin all got tagged.

I don't think he's like Joe Mixon. He's certainly not like Ezekiel Elliott where he's just like hard decline. I think he's going to go out and help a team. It's also the age for certain running backs. You have those five or six years. Levyon Bell, his situation was a little weird because he sat out a year.

But he was around the same age. And when he came back after signing that deal with the Jets, he was not the same player anymore. The Vikings obviously think he is a player that is in decline. Or they're just looking. at their financial situation and saying to themselves, you know, he's due over 10 million in 20, 2003, cutting him after June 1st allows them to save $9 million on the salary cap this season with $5 million in dead money.

This is very much, Greg, as I said, a team that's trying to figure out like where they're going and they're setting themselves up for the future. And if they like Madison, as much as their Twitter head seems to indicate, this is a way to get more fluid financially in the future. I get it. I just don't think their total number one objective this year is winning games. He's a $14 million cap hit, Dalvin Cook, before this release. So that is a lot.

And I think they maybe are trying to open up space for some long-term extensions. And Justin Jefferson would be the most logical one among them. And so that might be part of it. But it's been a team that's been like around the cap space issues all offseason. They traded Zadaria Smith. I think Dalvin Cook could help them, could help a team. They're very thin at running back now behind Alexander Madison. I don't know who it's going to be.

Maybe they'll sign like a low-cost veteran. But I feel like Cook's going to have some suitors. The dolphins have been mentioned. The Broncos have been mentioned as a potential landing spot. They have Giovante Williams. They gave some money to Samajai P-Rine, so it'd be a little weird, but Denver, some reporters there have thrown that out. The Jets make some sense to me.

Depends on the Brees Hall situation, I would think. But if they were interested in a rookie running back. About the Rams? I mean, Rams don't seem like they're spending on any veterans. Panthers, I would throw out that the bucks need a running back. These are the types of teams I'm not sure we'll spend. Mike McCarthy said some very positive statements about Dalvin Cook. A little bit of a weird depth chart there, especially with a guy Tony Pollard coming off the leg injury.

That's interesting. Like, he doesn't need to be a 300 carry guy. Probably shouldn't be. I heard from people who was like, oh, Dalvin Cook, he's always banged up this net. Like he played through a shoulder injury last year. And maybe that slowed him down a little in terms of like always seeking out the contact. When you think Dalvin Cook, you think like energetic runs. But he did play all 17 games.

He really hasn't missed that many games. Yeah. So just a quick Vikings timeline before we move on. Yeah, the cousins, you know, it was a pretty big story a few months back when they are not going to rework his contract. So they're letting that play out, Adam Thielen, who's a stalwart there. they let him go he goes to charlotte zadaria smith as we said traded uh they are taking phone calls on daniel hunter as well now harrison cut harrison smith took a haircut to stay there so and now you have dalvin cook exiting picture that's a 13 win team last year you don't usually see play out

this way but they also they were a weird 13 ones puts them low on my urgency rankings spoiled i mean it just seems like a team with quessi adofo menza their their gm who started a year ago that's like taking this as a reset year. The Hunter trade news and the news was rap sheet said they're receiving calls on him. To me was way more surprising. It's like, really? He is one of your best players. And usually that doesn't get out there unless they kind of want, they want to trade him.

So now I'm thinking Daniel Hunter's not going to be there either. And he's one of their best players. I thought he might be a candidate to get more money, but apparently not. Real quick, back to that 33-0 comeback. Do you remember the Pell Razor interview with Cousins after the game? Vaguely. Let's play just a little bit of that. Kirk, no team had ever come back from 33 points down and won a game until today.

How did you pull off the biggest comeback in NFL history? We just pulled off the biggest comeback in NFL history. Okay. I need a second, Tom. I need a second, Tom. I love that. The light went off in Kirk's eyes here. He's like, you can't come at me.

anymore for not showing up in a big spot. I've got that. Yeah, my running back can rumble 67 yards on a screen with no one around him and carry four guys in the end zone. No, I like cousins. I got to take a, sir. You like that! You like that!

In disconcerting news, the Colts and cornerback Isaiah Rogers, there's something going on here. He was not on the field for Wednesday's off-season workout admit an NFL investigation into his gambling activities. Rogers, the subject of a league investigation into possible violations of the league's gambling policy, including possible bets placed on Colts games. Yikes. Rogers acknowledged the situation on social media earlier this week, saying he takes, quote, full responsibility for his actions. Oh, boy, Greg.

So this is something that the Lions got hit with Jameson Williams, their star rookie wide receiver suspended multiple. games and other players that are connected to that. Now you have a cornerback who, and this is where it gets really dicey, obviously, the betting apparently is connected to the cults themselves, which is kind of a nightmare scenario in this new gambling world that the professional football landscape has embraced. Right. ESPN sources, I'm going off of Stephen Holder, who's their local cults reporter and David Purdom, had that he made roughly 100 bets and they were like in the 25. to $50 range with maybe like a low four-figure bet thrown in there.

So it's just stupidity because no one's getting rich off of, even though it was pervasive, it is, that's very pervasive. He was just doing it. I mean, he just didn't care, didn't think he was going to get caught apparently because he had someone else make them for him, but it was like easy to trace it back, apparently. Like, what are we doing here? Like, all for what?

Like, because he's not making much money off of this. And the fact that it's on the Colts has some speculation. that, look, he could be suspended indefinitely, like they could be threatening his career or say that he has to do certain things before he ever returns. And this was a starter who was a sixth round pick, had elevated to a starter last year, had a very good year, was an above-average starting cornerback in the NFL last year, which was kind of a surprise for such a late pick who got his first chance, and was just about to get paid probably because he's entering the final year of his rookie deal.

And that's all gone now. Yeah, I mean, I've heard, and yeah, this one's pretty cut and dry because it's gambling and it's involving his team and all that. Every player knows that's not allowed. But I've heard some pushback with some of these other gambling suspensions that have occurred in the last year or so. And even, you know, some criticism toward the league's policies and whether they're clear enough. And it's like, no, you know, get lost with that. It's like you, these guys have to know just full stop. you have a whole life after football to do whatever you want in this realm this message needs to be loud and clear you can't do any of this it it doesn't matter what the sport is you just got to stay away from it or they're going to find you because these investigations the leagues the league needs to be on top of this at this level because it brings into question the integrity of the game so they're going to be hunting for guys that are doing anything in this world so you just got to be smart enough and he wasn't smart and there's a lot of guys it seems that aren't being smart about it right now

I guess it was inevitable. I didn't really see this coming, but I guess this was inevitable when this happened in terms of gambling becoming legal throughout the country, most of the country, not California, that this was going to happen, that you needed to have like five to ten guys

totally mess up. You would think that will be enough to get people aware to prevent it in the future, but you would have thought that already. And the Colts are very thin there, by the way. For what it's worth, he's their kick returner, He's a starting cornerback.

I would say they have one of the worst cornerback groups in the NFL. And he was, you know, one of their best, you know, might have been their best cornerback. Yeah, other than Kenny Moore. I don't think we're going to see him. You blew it! For a while. NFL networks, Tom Pellasero.

There he is again. Pell Razor reports of Titans. Summer of Pell Raises. I know. Our hosting DeAndre Hopkins for a visit. It was confirmed when Mike Vrable met with the media. You want to hear a little bit of a little spicy brabs? Haven't heard this.

Okay. Not too spicy. I'll just hear from them. Is it a recruiting opportunity or like how does that benefit you? Um, you know, I mean, I'm past the recruiting. I did that in college. And I mean, I think that, again, would really just want people that want to be here. And then if that works out, then you go on to the next step.

So this will be pretty much it until we, you know, either sign or don't sign the next player. And here's the bell. Here's the Belichick disciple when a part two of the question about D'Andre came. He's got a reputation, Mark, from after a house. This will be, you know, again, if that's what you're going to ask your question about today, Paul. I'm going to give you another opportunity, but I'm going to talk about the players that are here. And when DeAndre's here, I'll visit with them, and then we'll move on when we make any other transactions from there. Yeah.

I don't know. I couldn't really hear what the – did you hear it? I think he was saying like he has a little bit of reputation of and that he cut him off before. I don't even know what he was like he's got a history of not practicing cuts him off. He comes back in the last guy that didn't practice and then he kind of cut him off. He's talking to Julio Jones. He's saying, do you want to make the same mistake? Oh, okay.

I forgot that Julio Jones was on the Titans for a second there. But yes, he was for a hot minute a couple years back. Yeah. This is, they're still kind of digging out, Gregie, from the A.J. Brown mistake that they made the management made um i don't know if is hopkins to fit there i don't know if it is i just think it's always paul it's always paul harski yeah like the look on brable's face he is that one reporter that like i feel like bravels he's the guy that hey the titoons nickname right he's the one you once had a back and forth he had a little uh yeah conversation on this show he seems to mix

it up with whoever wherever he goes uh i get like questioning their idea of signing another aging wide receiver. It has not worked out for them. Robert Woods was on that team too, right? Yeah, he was. I'm mixing it up. It's all a little hazy, but that's true. Because he's on the Texans now. None of it's worked but they need another receiver. So actually if they're trying to win this year and

I think they are, it makes a lot of sense to me. Nick Westbrook Aquina is their number two receiver. Like Kyle Phillips is their three. They could use a receiver. If Hopkins wants to be there, you got to make it happen. Because they have made, as far as we know,

Like you're saying, when you keep the veteran quarterback and you keep in Derek Henry in the building, you're sending a message to your fans who I think they're happy to hear it, at least the ones that are always looking for immediate results, that you're in it to win it. And you obviously have a big hole there. And Hopkins, even if he's not the same guy, huge upgrade, Gregie, if they can add him. It would be big. It does have the feeling of like Hopkins is not getting the money he wants from the bills and the chief specifically.

Are they being used a little bit? There's being reports that both those things. are interested, but they're like, they're not giving a Modell Beckham money. They probably say, hey, look, you want to go chase a ring? We'll pay you one year. We'll give you some incentives. The base is probably under $10 million. Come play with us.

And he might not be down with that. And so he either is going to take the money or use the Titans for the money. But they would have to probably pay a Titans premium. And that connects with the Bert Breer report from last week that he might have to take, what was the bag or the chase the ring? Probably not going to get the ring in Tennessee. It's easy for me to save it. He's made a lot of money.

And a place like Buffalo or Kansas City would be a, you know, you could go there for like one year. And you still will make, let's say, $8 million. That's like, that's putting it forward. But I know they don't have a long shelf life of how many years. In fact, you're in taxes? New York State taxes. Pretty stiff. I got to think it's less too in Tennessee than in Buffalo.

another gray beard comes off the board frank clark has a home the Denver bronco signed the edge rusher formerly of the chiefs one year five and a half million could get up another two million if he hits some incentives he's had a quiet market greggie and is maybe not the guy he was at his peak but a nice rotational rusher gives the Denver little Denver a little more juice there when i did a projected starters i thought their edge rushing position was among the worst in the league. Like pretty interesting defense otherwise. Post Bradley Chubb era. Right. No Chub. Von Miller's also gone. Some guys that may or may not fit.

So it kind of makes sense. But I was feeling like Frank Clark was a little a little cooked. It was not contributing a lot to the Broncos. I mean to the Chiefs. I don't think he's going to be a big difference maker. But it's nice. I like when the 101 guys get pushed off the list.

I just feel better. I just want that list to be empty. who's the best player left now Well now Cook is going to be on there Oh But DeAndre Hopkins is Don't you wish he was on there in March When the piece had juice

Well yes And I respect our editor Ali Bon Puri But he sees When Hopkins gets cut Or cook gets cut He's like ooh fresh meat Greg Let's go do another right To put him on

And then we can put it back into the rotation Like here's where Cook is In other news you know there's always going to be a ton of coverage around the cowboys always right um and they're doing their job they do their job as well jera and the whole uh organization because they give uh the national media and the local media fresh material and this is no different this the spring because they are really pumping up this new offense they're calling it gregg have you heard what they're talking up the texas coast offense i mean can't you just hear stephen a smith screaming right now

And Mike McCarthy, Zaddy himself, has not been shy, as you know, talking about... I'll just say this, where nobody's underdog. Exactly. He's puffing his chest out. He's calling plays this year. And despite Dallas being a highly ranked offense, let's listen to Zaddy once again, given some gruel, thrown in some meat into the old churn blender. They need to own offense.

I have no interest in being known as some guru coach or a smart coach. I'm a smart Hall of Fame-type quarterbacks. You got to make them own the offense. And you see it on it. He has the personality, but it's just like anything. This is our first year of playing the way we want to play. And he's done a really good job of taking ownership of that. And then with that, you know, the mental challenges, you know, he is knocked out of the park.

The first of all, Kellanmore, who is in L.A. now with the charges. This narrative that they're spinning out of the, out of the stuff. star that now we get to play the way we want to play. Mike, come back to us. You're the head coach, bud. You can't say that. It doesn't look good on you. He's saying, now he gets to be himself as a play caller this year.

And that's why they're going to be better. And they were pretty damn good last year. To play the play the way we want to play. They were fourth in points scored in 2022. They were first in 2021. I mean, points are important. Not the way they wanted to play, though. I get it.

But he's showing kind of like mid-career Jerry Jones coach symptoms here. They're kind of perfect together. Where he is now starting, he's not hitting out, but he's at least needling Jerry and letting the public know, like, hey, this wasn't really on me. This was Jerry forcing his guy on me. And I've got enough cachet with Jerry now. I can throw that out there because I know he doesn't take things personally, which is to Jerry Jones's credit.

I am not that optimistic, though, of Mike McCarthy. Brian Schottenheimer being an upgrade, but we'll see. Listen to these quotes coming out of Dallas. Here's Zach Martin, the guard. It's more of an attitude deal, instead of a McCarthy's effect as a Pittsburgh guy, Colin plays. That's the best way I can describe it. McCarthy's gotten a lot of mileage out of being from Pittsburgh.

I feel like that has been brought up when it is related to a lot. He needs that beard back, though, not feeling the Zaddy vibes from Mike right now. Okay. I feel like it's better when it's a beard. Also, in my mind, is a 2014 Packers game that was on NFL network the other night. The boy, you want sports at the dinner table at dinner. Yeah. There was no basketball.

I had no local baseball. I couldn't find a baseball game. So we just put on the old Saints Packers from 2014. I have no idea why that game was on. But Mike looked better then, is my point. The most Greg dinner situation possible. Little Saints Packers. You're saying he looked better.

He looked better back then. Well, it was nine years ago. Can you imagine living with me? Who among us did not look better nine years ago? I mean, it happens occasionally. You know, Mark looks pretty good now. You're looking very zaddy. Like, I'm not saying Mark like bad nine years ago, but honestly, Mark is looking pretty hot.

You got the facial hair, you know? But you're right. Nine years is a long time. Are you just fishing for a compliment? Greg? No, I'm not. I'm not because I know it's not true. I've seen it.

Sheck used to have a good line about this, and I think it's very true, which is we're all kind of hard on our own appearance and you look at and then you'll look at like a Facebook photo from your 20s or whatever or you know 10 15 years ago and you'll be like wow I look good there but back then you didn't think you look good

and guess what in like 10 15 years we're going to look back at how we look now back that's pretty good that's wise wise words good Mark does look good well of course once he got Levi too he's got the new jeans

he's got the black boots and Levi he's got a whole thing going on and we love it that's uh that's everything in the news let's take a break and uh get urgent all right welcome back gregg here we go you ready it gets so urgent so urgent you know it's urgent i want to tell you it's the same for me so oh oh urgent just you wait and see how urgent our love can be it's urgent you say it's urgent make it's urgent make it fast make it urgent do it quick do it urgent got a rush make it urgent want it quick urgent urgent urgent emergency so urgent emergency it's urgent don't know what that is but um sometimes it started to make me feel uncomfortable at the point you said make it quick it's like let me let me uh let me spend some time

here let me enjoy myself i don't want to make it quick sometimes when you it feels like a good move to like when you're trying to make a like a deep point or really connect on a level that makes you seem profound, you go and dig up some lyrics from like maybe like Bob Dylan like blood on the tracks. In this

case, I chose foreigner and their 1981 hit Urgent. So it didn't have the same it didn't come off the way I wanted to do it in my mind. But if anybody wants to pause and listen to that song, is Parker around? We have Parker behind the glass. She loves all that late 70s early.

I guess I should feel more urgency on that front then. I don't know a lot about foreigner, I feel like. Foreigner, you'll be shocked to go down. If you ever were to just randomly go down a random foreigner wormhole, you would be stunned to know how successful they were. I feel like, though, between foreigner and Journey, there could only be one, and Journey's won the battle. Journey one.

My kid, my daughter is finishing elementary school this week. It's a little off topic. Congratulations. Thank you. And they played, you know, a slide show of all the pictures over the years, like showing them in kindergarten and now up through fifth grade. And they played Don't Stop Believe in as part of it. All the kids are singing the song.

They know the words. They know it. Journey's one. My eldest son, Jack, last year for their creative writing portion of school, that was the song their 24-year-old school teacher put on to get them into the headspace of creative writing. I also know the lyrics to September by Earth, Wind, and Fire. Shocked me. You know, that's a shock you, foreigner has worldwide sales of more than 80 million records, including 40 million in the U.S.

That's pretty shocking. Anyway, urgency. In some ways, Gregi, all teams have it. But that's not necessarily true because there are different levels of urgency. And I'm going to do a piece on this on NFL.com. but this will be a good kind of testing ground though you and I can chop it up a little bit and talk about the teams that are facing the most urgency entering 2023 and let's get it started thusly Greg because I brought it up before this is the old Steinbrenner principle anything

less than a Super Bowl appearance is considered failure and so I'm going to start with the team that I think has the most urgency and it's the Buffalo Bills because I think they are truly super bowl or bust and the dark side of the coin is is pretty damn dark and i don't think it means like uh coaches and gms are getting fired necessarily uh but rot kind of blown up the roster in some ways is certainly in play i think if they fail this year um and it just opens up a level of doubt around the organization if they don't get over the hump so i'm gonna uh if i had to set like zero point zero out of 10.0, I'm putting the bills higher than anybody in this

exercise. I'll put them at a 9.7 on the urgency scale. Buffalo Bills. Are you with me that they have the most urgency of anything in the league? Oh, interesting. What do you got? But it's close. Well, my first one, and I admit maybe this is, you know, see what kind of reaction I get. I think

it's your New York Jets. Okay. Just because the other teams that are most logical for most urgent, I had the bills sort of second or third. I think comparing them to the Bengals is interesting because I actually put the Bengals slightly ahead of the bills, although they're very similar to me. But the Bengals right now, I feel like have this offense together right now. And I don't know how long it can stay together very specifically talking about T. Higgins.

Joe Mixon, I'm not really that worried about. But even their defensive core, it just feels like now is the time for the Bengals. So I put them slightly ahead of the bills. But they have quarterbacks in the middle of their prime that are maybe going to the Hall of Fame someday. So I just feel like if they're smart about it, it's not quite as urgent as a team like the Jets who have a one to two year window. I mean, maybe Aaron Rogers will be playing really well for three years. It just, we haven't seen someone that old play at that level other than Tom Brady for three years or even play at all. And so to me, they have a Super Bowl ready roster.

The longer this offseason's got on, the more I'm convinced the Jets should be really good, actually, that they won't be overhyped. But it just feels like it's like they are truly now or never because of Aaron Rogers. Yeah, and I have them at 9.6. So they were second on my list. I gave them a perfect 10. I just wanted to give someone a 10. That's fair. And I think for the Jets, they're kind of in a different category.

And that's something that I'll kind of when I do my write-up. I'll focus on, so where the bills to me are Super Bowl or bust, a team like the Jets, it's, it's not Super Bowl or bust, but it's playoffs or breadline for a lot of people. And it's Robert Sala, potentially Joe Douglas, Aaron Rogers, if this season went sideways, you just don't know what happens after this year, even though I think it's a two-year proposition is what I would guess it is. but a lot of things get really murky if they do not field a double-digit win team. So I'm with you on that. The bills, I'm just to cycle back to why I have them kind of as like the team just ahead of everyone else. This is since Josh Allen really came into his own, they lost in the wild card round, they lost in the conference playoffs, they lost in the division playoffs,

that heartbreaker obviously against Mahomes and then lost again in the division. playoffs where they really were beat up and beaten pretty badly by the Bengals and kind of an eye opening playoff loss. So you have that taste in their mouth. And I guess maybe I just give a little bit of the edge because the stakes are higher because it's just like this kind of tortured franchise that now has this great quarterback and this really good core. And I did, you know, check in with your projected starters, Greg, like, and coming up with my list. And it's like, do is there enough around them? Did they do enough this year?

They didn't make the big splash, you know, maybe DeAndre Hopkins ends up there and then you feel a lot better. But will they look back with a lot of regret if this upcoming season ends like last season and they're like, wait a second, we had the warning when the Bengals beat us up in our, in Buffalo, right? If I'm not mistaken, like, and we didn't really attack. So anyway. I hear that.

you're right they're going for different things i put them all on one scale but the jets to me have a higher kind of high wire act where it's like they could theoretically win seven or eight games so you're right like their bar if they win a playoff game they win 11 games but they their urgency to me to do at least that is like the highest of any league because if they if they if it got ugly there it's a tough division if they won seven or eight games it's just going to be a total disaster of course if the bills won seven or eight games that would be a total disaster too but they'd still have Josh allen and i just can't imagine them actually doing that bills fans try to enjoy this though the whole george steinbriner thing is getting antsy though bills fans are antsy i know but this has been

promised for a couple of years now this isn't gonna last forever if if you win 12 games and you lose in the playoffs at least enjoy the 12 games enjoy the enjoy the way there it's not a coincidence either that we led with two a fcc's teams i think it's the best division in football right now because of the rosters, the talent on the rosters, but it meets this urgency overload because I also have the dolphins

at eight and a half in this exercise. I had them at eight. Okay, because they're fully loaded and ready to go, but now they just got to go. And the Patriots, Greg, this is why it's they are not a Super Bowl or bus team. But

I put them at eight and I put them in their own category, Greg. They're the only team that had her own tier. I had him in the Foxborough triangle. I said we weren't going to be special, the Patriots and we got our own team. Maybe, yeah, maybe things are changing that Bell, Belichick, Kraft, Mack Jones, Foxborough triangle.

I think a lot can change if they have a bad year and they need to show growth with Bill O'Brien at OC and all the positive reports coming out of there. That has to translate. Where did you have the pads in this? I had them ranked eighth and just below the dolphins

kind of a tie there among a teams. But yeah, now that I look at it, I had four of my eight most urgent teams were in that division. I think the dolphins are an interesting one, too, because I don't, Tyree Kill is so important. I just don't think Tyree Kill is going to last forever and just sort of be in a perfect spot. So I do think that's an urgent situation.

And the Patriots, yeah, when the coach has to win and it's in a tough spot, I think they have a lot of urgency. So you know that someone's going to leave this division incredibly disappointed. I suppose, you know, there's a scenario, I guess, that Patriots win nine games and are still in fourth place. And I guess that's where everyone's roughly happy, but that's hard to imagine. And I don't think that leads to some huge blow-up because I think that's kind of generally seen their ceiling could be about 10 wins or so. Their schedule is brutal, especially out of the gates. It's urgent there.

People are, people are fighting in OTAs. You don't really hear that too often. Yeah, but you know, Belichick loves that. Yeah, he likes it. We got a real team here. So my Steinbrenner principal had the Bals, the Bengles, for similar reasons to the bills. Yeah, like football. Like football season, all the things that go with it.

Also, with the Bengals, as we've talked about on the show, have had that core in place for several years on offense. And that's not going to last forever. And they've been knocking on the door for a couple of years now, including a near Super Bowl win. I think it's this idea to get over the hump. as much as our QB says his their windows his whole career and the Eagles where do you have the Eagles in this exercise because I think their urgency is sky high for me in fact I had them

near the top of my list I got them a cool nine out of 10 and I understand they're set up well for beyond this upcoming year but also like the other factor is like this is a watered down conference another team that was knocking at the door last year with a MVP level young quarterback and you had that defense that might even be better this year and everything seems so perfectly lined up that this feels like you know in the NFL things change quickly so the iron here is hot strike it get that W get over the hump uh I think they're at a nine out of 10 yeah I had um I had them at eight and a half and they were the my fifth ranked team in terms of urgency so right towards the top and you're absolutely right you know how they remind me

is the 2018 Eagles and the 27th. 17 Falcons. Those were two teams that coming into the season, everyone was like, that's the best roster in the league. And both of those teams ended up making it back to the playoffs. I think they even each, did they each win one game? But it still was hard to recapture that magic. And sometimes it looks so perfect on paper. They were ahead of schedule a year ago. Now is the year, I think, was their push year where they really thought they were going to be great. They did a good job keeping as many people there as they could, including Graham and Fletcher Cox and James Bradbury and Slay. Like, it's not going to stay together. I'm with you, especially with that

conference. They're, they're the most urgent of any NFC team. I had the Cowboys right with them. Because we talked about a little bit Zaddy before and maybe there's a little bit of, I don't want to call, say, bad blood between Jera and McCarthy, but McCarthy is putting it out there that this is his team more than ever and if they take a step back or DAC takes a step back. I think you and I definitely differ on DAC a little bit because I read in your projected starters that you kind of labeled him. I can't remember what you said like a top QB or something where I feel like there's enough evidence that maybe he should be a little bit lower in that conversation. He's like in the 7 to 10 range

but that's a solidly ahead of like the Kirk Cousins in the Tanna Hills. We love our cold. That's where I disagree a little bit. I think last year was a weird year in terms of the perceptions. But not that he's going to lose his job, but there could be Mike McCarthy is facing a lot of pressure. And they're a team that, you know, cannot get over the hump,

cannot get into the NFC title game. And you kind of, I get the feeling that with Jerry Jones now in his 80s, that if this thing doesn't get them, if they don't get to the final four this year, there's going to be changes there. Yeah, I should move them up a little. I have them too low.

They just seem so happy. and they're fine, but you're right. The coach, possibly losing his job was important to me on this urgency scale. Well, that's why I have one team that we haven't brought. I have two teams, but one I had, the only other one I had over nine. Yeah. We have not brought up. And that is the Cleveland Browns.

Yep, I had them at even nine as well. Okay. Go ahead. They're in my top five. Just because I just think even if the outside expectations aren't as high, the ownership expectations are going to be sky high. They need to show something for this. Deshawn Watson trade.

I don't think the Hopkins is going to happen. It sounded like Deshawn Watson was pushing for a minute there. I don't think that's going to happen, but they did bring in Zadarious, but they don't have a lot of huge holes. I think it's a good roster. So I just think their playoffs are bust at the least, and the urgency is sky high. Yeah, there's a lot of reason for optimism there, but also, I think, a creeping sense of dread

because Watson could get everyone fired. And if Watson stinks, and they fall. in their face this year it will make the cleveland browns a different kind of eternal laughing stock because that will go down in history as that that will absolutely be in the conversation we're not getting ahead of it or trying to jinx it still got four years left on the but i'm saying like if this was truly if this cratered that would be in the herschal walker conversation like so until we get until we're it's proven and you're pushing the dashan might not be good card a little harder than i am i'm just saying it's kind of out there until it's It's not at all. So there's a lot of urgency for this season to produce results. And by Hershey Walker, you mean the trade, not him embarrassing himself as a public figure afterwards. I know. I tried to block out his, his, what was it, run for Congress?

Senate. Senate. Yeah, that did not. Nobody was covered in glory connected to that on his side of things. But as a good running back, yes, the Cowboys set. up their dynasty with a trade with the Minnesota Vikings. I've settled it on like Watson's probably more likely than

not to be an above average quarterback. Right. But being like the 13th best quarterback in the league, that trade is a fiasco, even if that happens. I know he's not going to be the 30th best quarterback in only again. That

would be crazy. Yeah. They should be, if they're not contending for a playoff spot in January, it's everyone's very nervous around there. Uh, let's see, uh, let me see the team that we haven't discussed, uh, where did you have the chargers? I had them at eight and a half. Yeah, they, I had them at eight. They were like 10th on my list because they've gotten to the playoffs.

They've had a winning record under Brandon Staley, but the defense has shown no ability to get better. You have Justin Herbert still on his rookie contract. I feel like they're in perennial, uh, they're like always the same. They've probably been at this level for years. like ownership is not when is that not good enough like oh i feel like ownership is fine with them just doing this year after year so it's not quite as urgent but i'm feeling the urgency well brand is still staley's feeling the urgency right i mean they they had a historic meltdown in the playoff game that's you know that's going to wipe away all any goodwill and they

they have a roster that on paper is ready to to compete and at a certain point unless ownership is disconnected and and doesn't care that much about seeing tangible progress, you would think they need to get back to the playoffs and not, you know, lay like an embarrassing egg in January for the coach to be back, right? I would think so. And I worry for Brandon Steeley because on paper, the defense looks worse to me. And he hasn't been able to coach up the defense at all. I have one team, though, ahead of the charges that we haven't hit in my top six.

Okay. We haven't even mentioned him. the Washington commanders. Oh, they're low for me. I mean, anytime a new owner is coming in, I feel like it's urgent time. I know our expectations aren't crazy high,

but I feel like he's got to make the playoffs or everything gets blown up there. I mean, even the name might not stay around. I mean, I don't want to make everything just the QV conversation, but Sam Howell versus Jacoby Preset doesn't scream team urgent to have a big season or else.

Like, it seems like a team that's very, purposely, you know, sitting in the marina with the boat neutral waiting for things to settle before they really dive in next year. And I don't know if that's good news for Ron Rivera or the worst news possible. I think it's the worst news

possible. I think if you're docked in the marina, bro, you're a six or lower for me. I mean, are they on the high seas? I'm putting them out on the high seas. You put them on the high seas. I mean, they've got a lot of veterans on that team. They don't have a lot of huge weaknesses. They're paying a lot of money. I know they don't have any quarterbacks, but I guess if it was coach urgency rank,

I feel like he would be in the top five because he when a new owner comes in he's he's lived this life before same thing happened in carolina he's got to win now or else they blow it up i think they're going to have a a big name a quarterback next we'll be talking about this time next year okay but that's why i kind of have a little lower i have um you know the team the division that has the least urgency which is kind of funny the idea of an entire division be like yeah the nfc south yes with the bucks i have at a three excited you know what of the Baker versus Kyle Trask they have a weird roster with a bunch of veterans but no Tom Brady anymore they kept the head coach there I guess there's some coach urgency there to show they can grow especially on defense but they're not necessarily set up for success there either Greg like how do you even make sense of the no I put them out of five just because they have an older GM and coach and some veterans on that team but that whole division to me didn't seem that lack of urgent. I had the Saints and the Falcons pretty high. They were pretty much up next after Chargers. Yeah, I kind of did too, actually. I got to say I had the Falcons at seven and a half, so I should walk back a little bit.

Yeah, they're in year three of this process, and I feel like they have to show something. I feel like Dennis Allen has to show something. They're really talking up a big game in New Orleans, like that they're the favorites of that division. I feel like the AFC South is the division where there's no urgency. I don't have anyone above a five. I got the Jaguars at four.

Even the Jaguars, it doesn't feel that urgent. They could futs around. I got the Jags is a six and a half, the Titans at six and a half, Colts at five, Texans at six. Whoa. I mean, we're on our own little scales. I got the Jaguars at four, the Texans Titans and Colts at three. At the bottom of my whole list,

because I feel like all these teams could kind of mess around this year. If the Jaguars took a big step back, it would be frustrating, but they're a relatively young team. with a young quarterback and Peterson has some rope. And then the other teams all have rookie quarterbacks and new situations, either new head coaches or in the Titans case, at least a new general manager. So it's like a lot of teams that are just starting from scratch.

There's a little sub-NFC North category I want to introduce, like be a grower, be a shower, the Detroit Lions and the Chicago Bears. I don't think either team, although the lines, I think it's expected that the Lions now make the playoffs, which just feels like a weird thing to say. But they are expected to take that jump. But I don't know if people get fired if they don't make it. And I don't expect them to crater either.

And the Bears, I think I agreed with their whole aesthetic this offseason, which is get behind Justin Fields and then help him out. And I think you saw that in both free agency and in the draft. And it helps, I guess, for them that they're starting from such a low point. that there's going to be progress. You'd think there is a Matt Eberflux question that has, that conversation that has to be had here. And I think that's where I, why I have them maybe a little higher.

I have the bears at a seven for that reason. A lot of Ebra flu, seven and a half I have them, actually. I got them at six and a half. I got the Packers at seven. And I have the lions, the highest in that division, at seven and a half. Because the reason I think they're feeling urgent is like, now's the time. Like, they've never gone into a season with this much hype.

They are set up well for a while, but a division title would mean so much to that city and to that organization. And it's all set up for them. They are literally the favorites. They have great line play. It's kind of exactly what they've been building tour is this moment. And so I feel like that is urgent. if they if they had like an eight and nine season and came in second in that division weirdly it'd be a pretty big letdown the lions the lions yeah i think i agree with you i agree with you i'm with you on that i don't know the packers surprised me you have them a little higher than i do i haven't met a five the same as the vikings where it's you know there's like success is kind of hard to even calibrate what the packers uh you want to obviously see the quarterback show uh tangible signs of growth but i don't think the the power structure is in out there.

That's true. And I think love is going to get at least one year here. There's the whole like prove Aaron Rogers wrong thing that makes it feel a little more urgent. The fan base there makes it feel a little more adjourned. I have the Vikings 31st on my list out of 32 teams. Two and a half I'm giving them. You cut, you cut Dalvin Cook, you trade Zadaria Smith.

You're trying to trade Daniel Hunter. You're coming off total found money with a 13 win season. And then your coach and your GM is in total job security mode, which is great. I think they should be. They did a great job. They're in year two. I had them all the way at the bottom only above the 32nd team, which I assume we have the same team. I'm going to drop the Vikings to a three.

Wow. It's such a great case. Yeah, the Cardinals, I had to stick at a 0.0. And that's not even, kind of is a takedown. But it's also like just it is what it is. Like there's no urgency to win this year. and they are playing for next year. They're the textbook definition of a team

that isn't playing or, you know, playing with any sense of urgency for the upcoming season. I don't even think it's a hit piece. No. Colt McCoy is scheduled to be their starter. Their fan base will be happy if they win four or five games or cause violence. They just got, like, bored of DeAndre Hopkins

and they're just like, ah, get them out of here. A couple... No urgency. I wonder if... I'm sure the fan base is listening would disagree, but the only other teams that we haven't mentioned that I have below five. I said my whole AFC South,

other than actually my entire AFC South is. But I have the Giants pretty low because I think they're kind of similar to the Vikings that they're just like found money and if they took a step back,

everyone kind of gets it as long as they show some growth and talent. I have the Panthers low. Number one overall quarterback, just how he looks is the most important thing, but they don't need to win this year. And then the Rams,

I guess, have to be low. even though they have Cooper Cup and Donald, how can they feel like what they're doing is urgent? Next year is urgent for them. Yeah, I have them at a seven, but I couldn't really figure out what they're doing, but I'm not alone. Everyone's trying to kind of figure out the Rams plan of attack this year.

It's like a gap year. You know, you like take a year off of college and you just like go travel the world and then you come back and try to hit it hard. I mean, I didn't do that, but that's something. Yeah, it seems like it would have been a cool thing.

That's the gap Rams year. we should do gap years in this country. Just like as a profession? Like as once you are. Is that the post university? I don't even. European thing to do? Like you graduate and then you just take a year off and you see,

help us out overseas listeners. Because I think that's what it is. And then you get to be that you get to backpack and go stay at hostels and things of that nature. And then you start your career. Hey, with this economy, you might not have a choice. Oh, this guy gets it. All right, let's, good conversation. Anything else you want to hit there?

And check out NFL.com next week. I think I'll have something up on this. Looking forward to it. Did we miss anything? I feel like we didn't, I feel like we hit everything we need to there. It's almost every team. I've got the Broncos and the Steelers square in the middle of my,

my urgency rankings. It's just like middle, middle tier. Ravens, where you got the Ravens? They're like upper middle class, you know, upper middle. Sam'sies, samesies. Let's bring in frags. Frags behind the glass. from the newsroom

she's going to come sit in because well let's get our seated here ladies and gentlemen Alexander Fregal wow the legend herself yes get situated Frags

now Frags has joined the show before but only behind the glass so this is a first but very often the shantuce on our on our drops Well said. You are the shantuce of around the NFL, Alex. How are you? I'm great. I was not told that this was on camera. Thanks, guys. So that's cute.

At a certain point. That's not Dan. I mean, you could say it's on Dan, Frags, but at a certain point, we do the show in a studio with lighting and cameras on us. Yeah, but every other time I've just stood behind the glass. I know. And I thought this would be a good way to make things a little bit more direct. But can I apologize? Do you want to go behind the class? I accept your apology. In the past, it has been behind the glass. But don't worry, like, in no way are our listeners weirdos

and the ones that only listen to audio usually, like, there's no way they're going to go to the YouTube just to see what's going on with Frags. Okay. Way to make her comfortable, Greg. All right, Frags. Now. This is a good color.

That was more shot at our listeners. Yeah. Listeners, be normal people. Yeah, be normal. Frags, you are, and we've worked together forever, right? I mean, since. Very long time. 2010?

That's showing my age, but yes. Samezies. That is what it is. 12 for me, yeah. And the one thing you got to know about Frags is she is a traveler, a world traveler, in fact. Yes, that's true. And I thought with summer right around the corner, our listeners who are all normal and not at all creepy are going to really benefit from Frags giving some. tips for summer travel

before we say goodbye today and you're heading to the weekend. Okay. So I'm going to tee you up. Oh, okay. You have ideas. Yes. No, I'm just going to say,

relax, everybody. Smile and watch your worries wash away on the white sand beaches of Fragola Town. Belidimisia. Belisima. Belisima. We'll work on your Italian.

Travel tips with Fragola. Okay. All right. Do you want to go down a list? How many of you have? I mean, you didn't really give me a lot of info, just five travel tips. Yeah, how about number one? Here's some stuff.

Travel like credit card debt doesn't exist because it doesn't. Okay, go on. Like, flesh that out. Go to Venice, Italy, because it's not going to be there forever. Just go. You'll have credit card debt. It won't matter. So just open up that extra card, max it out if you have to.

Make sure it has points and lounge access. Feels irresponsible, but you're a travel advisor, not a financial advisor. That's an important to stick. No one would ever bring me on their podcast to discuss finance. And if they would. I like that, though. You're right. These places, there's only so much in your life that you can squeeze them all in.

You better get working at it. Exactly. All right. So just to put a bow on that one. Spend money. Have fun now. Worry about the financial consequences later. Tip number two from Cragola.

Yeah, I like that. Okay, let me give you something. Ciao. Chao. Oh, we'll give you something Italian. Okay. I just actually, oh, okay. Gama Gula. Side note.

Yeah. I'm going to Italy in about two and a half weeks and you know who I'm going to hang out with her. Who? David Ely. Whoa. Ely himself in Italy? David Ely and his friends. Ely, another newsroom staple for years.

Yeah, he's big with the listeners here. A huge fan. Wow. Big Panthers fan. So I was just telling him that in Italy, you are not to order a cappuccino afternoon. After the new now. That's tip number two. That is a breakfast drink.

You will be embarrassed at the Italian bar if you ask for anything other than an espresso. This is so important because define embarrassed. We just get a look like, oh, the American. You might get a, like an absolutely not. I mean, it depends how easily embarrassed. Oh, they might say no. They could. Oh, geez.

See, Greg, I want to start spreading my wings and seeing other things. We're, it depends what part of you. You Italians. How many times have you been to Italy? Shifty. I've probably been to Italy like six or something. Dang, you really do travel out. Wait, so you were in Japan this off season.

Yes, which, funnily enough, I was just saying, you never sent me travel tips for. Ooh. Yeah, this guy was supposed to hook me up with Tokyo travel tips. Oh, he promised it on top of it. And he did not. Well, I don't know if I promised it. But that would, I guess, be another tip, is ask someone who travels there a lot for tips ahead of time. Just not Greg.

Yes, just not, do not ask Greg for travel tips. All right, travel tip number, oh, to put a bow on that one, do not order a cappuccino after 12 o'clock noon. You may get looks, you might even get denied a real social no-no. Number three. Number three. Okay, a really practical one, fantastic one, city mapper. City mapper.

It's a fantastic app. You basically, it has different cities in it. It works all over the world. It depends on what city you're in. But, like, Japan, they had it for Kyoto and Tokyo. They had it for Seoul. They have it all over London. They have it here.

You were in London this offseason, too. I was in London this off season. Where else? That's all I've been to. Well, that's a lot. That's three months. Yeah. And then you just put in where you're going, where you are, where you're trying to get to,

and it gives you, like, how much a taxi would cost, how much an Uber would cost. It gives you all the transportation options. how long it'll take, how long it can take to walk or... Better than Ways, you're saying. Oh, my God, infinitely better, because it gives you all the public transportation on it. It'll give you your tube stop. City mapper. So that's an actually practical tip.

That's extremely practical. You used that in Tokyo because I didn't tell you how... Because you didn't tell me anything, so... That's a rough. You managed, though. How was it? I had been to Tokyo before. How was it?

It was fantastic. I got a tattoo, well, I got a tattoo in Kyoto, but... It's a strawberry. Oh, very nice. Well done. And on kind of a little bonus. How do you handle Tokyo, for instance, the language divide? So many people speak English there.

Okay. And I will say, they see me walking down the street and no one expects me to speak Japanese. So it's quite... You know Japanese? No, they don't expect me to, so I'm fine. No one's going to speak like rapid fire Japanese to me, whereas in Europe I feel like frequently people will speak. I hope everyone's listening. These are really good tips, okay?

and that one is it's okay you could be a little nervous if you don't know the language but be aware a lot of people in other parts of the world do speak multiple languages it's a little bit of our country it depends like you don't want to get too far

you don't want to get outside of Tokyo and start going to some some hot coyota Hokayato for instance don't want to go there I'm just saying like you know you don't want to be going to some hot spring hotel or I found myself in certain situations

where my lack of English definitely It definitely hurts me. I would also say... How you doing on your Japanese, Greg? It's non-existent. I was going to say, also, if you speak a little bit of a language, be prepared that people are going to speak to you

like your fluent rapid fire. The moment you get into it. Backfire situation. It could backfire on you a little bit. All right. Number four. Okay, this is where I stopped preparing. Ah, okay.

That's how we handle most of those tickets. Book tickets to, like, famous things way ahead of time so that you don't have to wait. Like, if you wait in line to buy tickets for the Louvre, it'll take you an extra two hours, and it's miserable, and you don't want to do that, especially if it's summer. So don't do that. Also, crazy, scorching hot take. I think the Louvre is overrated. Whoa.

Go to the, Mousay Dorsay. It's beautiful. I hate Impressionist Art, another hot take, but a beautiful museum. And less crowded. I'm going to go with another. Avoid Louvre at all costs. Another hot take. Got it.

in terms of travel. Do tell. You know, with maybe rare exceptions, don't wait for anything. Life's too short to meet in line for just about anything. It's a huge city. You're not going to be able to see everything that they have, but there will be more to see.

Don't bother. If you invite... There's a two-hour wait. In a similar but different context, if you invite me anywhere and it's like, oh, you've got to wait on a line to get it. I'm not going. and, you know, kind of F you for inviting me to a place

where I have to wait on the line. Finally, number five, remember number four, do not go to the Louvre under any circumstances. Number five, the final tip. Oh. Travel tip from Frags. Don't ask for ice in foreign countries. Not because ice is bad or anything like that,

but because it is a very uniquely American ask. Like, ice for your water? Unless there's a short. Why do you want ice for your water? This is a ridiculous American request. I have because, you know, daddy likes to have a Tito's. Okay. That's different.

That's on. But here's the thing. When I go to London for our trips and I order one at the bar, there's like two like half melted ice cubes floating on top of my Tito's. And I make my Tito's and the tips I always give. Here's a little tip. There's a little behind the bar tip from old Zusser. This is how you make the drink.

You fill it up with ice, then you do a five-second pour that will take your ice down about halfway, but keep it icy, and then put your topper on, and then you have a delicious, fizzy, icy, delicious cocktail. Well, all the barclenders of London will be listening to this. But I can use a drink, I got to say. Bonus tip, don't drink tequila in London, drink with the locals drink. Just, you know, drink sake in Japan, drink Sojourn Korea, drink wine in England, drink warm beer. drink warm beer in London, although they will tell you not all their beer is warm. It is not.

Many types of beer. That's a good, that's the best piece of advice. Just eat what's the best, what they specialize. Do what they, yeah, okay. Eat and get it. Ladies and gentlemen, Alexander Frago. Can I go? Yes.

I apologize if we didn't warn you enough, and if I made it uncomfortable in any way. It's, this is the only thing I actually know about, so. Well, that's why we had you on. Unless you guys want to talk about clothes. I got that covered too. That will be your next appearance on the show. Frags, thank you very much.

We will be back on, I don't know, Monday. There she goes. Sounds about right. You're back on Monday. Yeah. You could go, Frags. Great seeing you. With another episode, we'll have the gang back together as we turn through the off season.

Anything else, Greg, before we say goodbye? No, I think that's it. I mean, my own travel tip. Here's an underrated way to do it. Just don't have. have many plans at all. Just be in that city and sort of try to have it,

you know, you don't have to see everything. People are wired differently. But if you just sort of have a day where you're bouncing around and it's not all planned out, I feel like it works out better that way, less stressful. All right, you could add that as well

to the notes. Don't overplan. Don't spend your whole time on like a tour bus. I like that. All right. Good stuff. Enjoy your weekend.

He'd the call.