NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Thanksgiving 2020 Recap, Lamar Jackson COVID news

Episode Date: November 27, 2020

Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal recap the two thanksgiving games starting with Washington at Dallas (2:00) and then Deshaun Watson and the Texans rolling over Detroit (8:30). The Ravens have some more Covid news involving Lamar Jackson (12:30).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the 6th, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.

It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sunday. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Third down and six, right up the gut. That is Gibson and he is gone. Third of the ballgame for the rookie Antonio Gibson. And that is a knockout blow here in Arlington, Texas. That was Antonio Gibson with the knockout blow in a redoubt blow in a redact. Ridiculous. 41 to 16 victory for the Washington football team, the first place Washington football team over the Dallas Cowboys. I'm Greg Rosdahl. I'm with Mark Sessler. This is like a surprise album drop from a band. No one really needed any extra music from, but who cares? We're on Thanksgiving. We're delivering it to you too, Mark. And we're going to hit the Lamar Jackson COVID news later in the show, but let's just. just start talking about this one. Mike McCarthy, you know, a guy you've always loved,

spending Thanksgiving with him, I'm sure it was a lot of fun for you. Oh, I mean, you can't top it, so let's start right there. But I had a Cowboys, because, you know, we felt this hope around them, I think it's a group that they could be the team that emerged from this division and, you know, showed some life down the stretch. And I personally just ignored Washington the entire time. And they looked like the better team. It kind of reminded me at the end of last week's game

when I thought the Cowboys defense looked tired against Doc, Dalvin Cook and the Vikings down the stretch. They look tired again today, and Gibson set it off. But it felt like a doomed operation or one with lingering questions right out of the gate for Dallas. On that opening field goal drive, you lose Cam Irvin at left tackle. And look at let's, Cam Irvin is replaceable to some degree in life. But Zach Martin out at right tackle.

And he returned with crutches. and, you know, on the sideline. So, you know, that just, that changed, I thought, everything for Dallas to some degree. And you've got, you know, Zeke Elliott, who they're not giving the ball to on fourth and one, which was a questionable fourth and one scenario to begin with. And I thought it impacted the entire offense. Dalton was under pressure. And I thought he threw the ball pretty well, but it just became too much for the Cowboys.

Yeah, when those injuries happened, I kind of thought, well, Washington should win this game. and then I thought, even if they don't, Dallas isn't going to get it done this year. I mean, that looked like Zach Martin is out for the year. And at some point, it's just like, it's too much. And, you know, I picked the Washington to win this game. Not that my picks have been particularly good this year. They've been mediocre. But I do think this one was good.

But they do look like the same team each week. I thought Alex Smith maybe had maybe his worst start of the year today. And it didn't matter. And these two teams weren't that mismatch. But they're sort of like a toughness to them where they show up. They give you a hard effort every week. They almost never get blown out. They're always in these games.

Their defense is better than average for sure. And I think your boy, Scott Turner, who used to be with the Browns, used to be with a lot of teams, Norv Turner's son, has done a good job. When you watch them week after week, like you see guys are open and you see young players, like Antonio Gibson. That's a third round pick who I've loved watching. He has so much power. Didn't even need it today.

you just kind of saw the speed. And then Terry McLaurin, like you have some young players, Montes Sweat, who gets the interception. Chase Young has done his thing. So it's like, all right, like you're trying hard and you have some young players. That is about enough in the NFC East these days. Their schedule's pretty tough moving forward, but I think them and the Giants are kind of the two teams to watch.

Well, it's almost, it's a nice surprise if it's the two teams we never would have that we counted out so thoroughly back in the summer. And on the, on the Scott Turner front, you know, Akib Talib, of course, called him just a young Turner. know if he knows what his first name is, but they really used. He probably was with him on some team. No, I think he just personally knew him, yeah. But they think Logan Thomas the way he was used.

That just showed like an air of creativity by Washington. There was the one very odd play where Alex Smith shifted out from center, had the ball and put it underneath like J.D. McKinnick's butt, basically, from behind. And they showed that a Ron Rivera team had run the same play with the Panthers back in 2011. So they really dipped in a bag of tricks. And on the flip side, I thought that the Bones Fossil fake punt was a huge turning point in this game. And they had to be gutsy. Your season's on the line. But Washington, as Troy Aikman noted, was so well prepared for that. And I think that they just look like a Ron Rivera-type team when Ron Rivera-type teams are looking good.

Right. I mean, it was 41 to 16. That felt very misleading. Despite the injuries, you know, it was 2016 entering the fourth quarter. I thought they would win this game, but then it gets crazy because really because Washington started three times inside the Dallas 35 was two turnovers on downs. One was that fake punt, which is one of the worst fake punts we've seen. I mean, they tried it, didn't work. The fourth and one you mentioned, it's just been a tough, it's been a tough season for Mike McCarthy, right when the Cowboys pull you in, then they break your heart. That's what they usually, that's what they usually do. And looking at their schedule, I don't see a lot of wins. Washington has only one more division game. That's their, that's their, I guess,

problem when you look at them moving ahead. They will not be favored likely in a game until maybe week 17 against the Eagles, which could be for the division, whereas the other three teams, they get to play each other. But I'm done with the Cowboys. You're done. I'm done with that game, too. We don't need to, we don't, I mean, Jerry, like, if you, if you enjoy Jerry Jones looking disappointed, if you enjoy, like, Tony Pollard looking like the better Cowboys running back for month like for like a month straight at least i feel like he's better than zeke than you enjoyed this game let's move on to the uh late after then or the early game look at duke johnson tosses it back and wide open is four for the touchdown are you kidding

i mean this is unbelievable just silencing the fancied you but this is outstanding play calling you know how many plays or run like this right now out in the backyards of america on Thanksgiving Day. Not as many as usual, Jim, unless you're with your family because of COVID. I used to do a little Thanksgiving football with the friends. It was pretty much the only day of the year. I would say I would play tackle football. Occasionally, there was snow on the ground.

The ground was often frozen, and I was easily the smallest person among my friend group. So it wasn't always that much fun, but kind of fun. I mean, we, like, I had a neighborhood gang of kids that, picked up tackle football very early. There were these three brothers, the McCarthy brothers, and every day I'd get home from school, like I'd be home, get home at like 2.30. By 2.35, they're on the phone.

They're like, get up here now, we're playing. And they would bully you into, they were delightful, but they would bully you into playing. So it was five days a week. Thanksgiving might have been one of the only days that I didn't have to get, you know, pulled into that. But that, Greg, that shows that, you know, I'm someone that played the game.

I have that demeanor that you can consent. We were more of like a street hockey basketball, and baseball kind of crew. And I guess we were just a bunch of wimps in the Western Mass area. The Texans won this game, by the way, 41 to 25. This is how you know Dan Hansis isn't here. Like, he wouldn't go this far into the recap without even getting to the game. But let's be honest.

These were two teams that aren't going anywhere. They're both four and seven now on the year. I'm glad the Texans won this game because I feel like they've been a better team than the record showed all year. I don't even think this is one of Deshawn Watson's, like, better half of the games he's played. this year. And yet he ends up with four touchdowns, 318 yards. That's how bad the lion's defenses. And that's how good their passing attack is, even without some injured wide receivers. Like, they are tough to stop. Yeah, they didn't have Randall Cobb or Kenny Stills, but, I mean, a healthy Brandon Cooks and a healthy Will Fuller, or the pair I'd much rather have.

And, I mean, Will Fuller, they must have, I mean, obviously they dug deep into the Lions Panthers tape from a week ago. And DJ Moore, embarrassing. that's secondary too. And, you know, Jeff Okuda was fried last week. He wasn't on the field this time around the first round pick. But catches for Fuller of 40, 38, 37 yards. Cooks had a 27-yarder. Duke Johnson had a 33-yard catch and run. So big plays in wide open spaces against the Detroit's defense that this was meant to be Matt Patricia's staple. And, you know, it's interesting because Deshaun said, like, this is basically, it is, it is very Patriots-esque. And what he did to the Patriots last week. And what he did to the Lions today lowers the cue rating on the Patriots experience

on defense a bit. And Matt Patricia faced some tough questions after obviously and kind of refused to go there about his future. Every week. Right. I mean, it just seems like this, when these things to happen on national television, that engine gets cranked up a little bit. You know, you're not going to hide every Lions team at one o'clock Eastern on Sundays. This was, we all witnessed this car crash. This was, oh, this was very similar. to the first game now that I think about it. That trick play kind of ended it with a little chicanery, gets it done. It felt closer than it really was towards the end.

It had the JJ Watt pick six, just like Montes Sweat, where he jumped up and caught it. I thought that was nice. Like J.J. Watt's been on Thanksgiving twice in his life, and he's done something memorable twice. He had like a monster game against Detroit eight years ago, which he talked about. And I wouldn't be surprised if this is it for Matt Patricia, whether maybe even by the time we tape on Sunday. We'll be doing our big preview show tomorrow, Friday, in like 12 hours. Are you ready for that, Mark?

I mean, I'm contractually obligated to be ready for it, but I kept a lid on it today. So we'll be doing. No, we're having fun. They fired Steve Mariucci, I saw after a Thanksgiving loss, with almost an identical record in his tenure to Matt Patricia. There's a new Ford running the team that's taken over that she hasn't really talked too much. much. But this feels like maybe it's time. And if it's not this week, it'll be later in this season or immediately after the season. They have no juice. They have no luck either. It's like a little bit of everything. They didn't have Gala Day or Swift. And I am convinced before we move on

from this game that Romeo Cornell is going to be their head coach next year because of our boy, Jack Easterby, who you and I have both really embraced. I believe that the way for him to keep power is to not shake up things too much. He knows Romeo, like, it's all Patriots. It's like, give us, like, one more in-between year. You keep Romeo. The second I saw Ian Rappaport report something about how they're worried, they might not be able to fly in people for coaching interviews because of COVID.

I'm like, you're using that as excuse. You've got 15,000 people in the stands. You can't do a coaching interview. It's got to be Romeo Cornell because they're going to keep winning some games. They're not all easy games, but Romo was trying to sell us on that the Texans aren't totally dead. And I thought, you all, for one more week, he's right. just because they have so many division games left. They have two Colts games in the Titans.

In theory, if you swept those three games, you could be in. So next week, if you, you know, you can at least get ready for that Colts game and think you're kind of alive. I think they're kind of like the classic berserker team that we discussed, though, that like record or not, I mean, they're not making the playoffs and their changes ahead. I wouldn't want to deal with the Texans at all. I mean, they are cooking on offense.

You're so right about Cornell because it's just about, you know, you don't want a strong voice that comes in. And the first move is Jack Easter, be is sent on an airplane to the Caribbean. No, he wants to stick around and he he wants to be the strongest voice. So you hire the weakest coach. And I'm not saying that that's Cronnell. It's just so many he already gets along with. Right. No one that can like take him in a in a power move later. And to Romeo's credit, they are four and one with him. And so they have they have won games with him. It's partly because the schedule got easier and they were just super unlucky with that

early in the year. I don't want to know if Cronnell would want to do this. He's the oldest coach in the Sounds like he was having fun. According to Tony Romo, he was, like, having a blast that he was getting to do this one more time. But maybe that's the only thinking that it might be ending soon. All right, this podcast would be ending soon if we didn't get, like, a huge news bomb dropped right before we taped. Lamar Jackson has COVID-19, and that would indicate he's not going to play on Sunday against the Steelers. You know, since we last recorded a podcast, that game was postponed. obviously, if you guys are listening to this show, you know that until Sunday at 1 with Mike

Terrico on the call on like a 1 o'clock game. That's wild. And now it's going to be Lamar Jackson on the bench and Robert Griffin III starting that game against the Steelers if they play the game, which I don't think we can totally assume at this point. Yeah, I don't know. I really wonder what the league office, how they measure each of this, because there's a, you know, a slew of teams impacted. It feels like the corona announcements are coming every three to four minutes at this point. And you have Mark Ingram out. You have Dobbins out. They accounted for like a hundred and, like, I think 20 of other 129 rushing yards a week ago. You've got Gus Edwards, but you take Lamar out. And like, RG3 is over. I get that RG3 is sort of like, in theory, you could run a similar type

offense. But every time RG3 has come on the field, that offense looks broken to me. No, we don't need to do, like, a whole new, like, preview. We actually will on our TV show, which if you guys want to check out, we'll be on Saturday morning on NFL Network. And so we'll talk about the new matchup then, but it's crazy. I tend to think the NFL is going to do everything they possibly can to play the game. But Adam Schaefter, literally one minute ago, as we're taping this, said that four more Ravens players. I assume that Lamar was one of those players and another staff member tested positive.

So they've got, I would say, you know, the most serious outbreak since that Titans won, you know, five, six weeks ago, maybe the most serious the entire season. They have officially suspended the strength and conditioning coach, which reportedly was not following protocols in terms of mask wearing and being in close contact and other things. they didn't announce it as a suspension. They just said discipline, but other reporters have said it is a suspension. So that is a mess, and it's too bad this Thanksgiving, these games, which I still enjoyed watching because Walker loves, like, he loves watching a game with me, and it's rare that I'd be

so distracted. So I still had fun today, and we got to tape this three hours earlier and get it out to our listeners three hours earlier. So, you know, that UK crew, they can get it right now. But before we go, Mark, like, I was happy to watch the games with Walker, to go all Jim Nance on you. Let's, let's end on a positive note. We can't go COVID. Let's do the traditional the thing my mom made me do, us do. We really had to do this and say one thing we're thankful for this Thanksgiving. Well, one thing. Well, I mean, I think, well, I think. Well, you can say more than one

if I'll say, I'll say two quick things. It doesn't need to be one. I'll do two quick things because I think like, you know, it's been, we've, we've felt it with every episode. It's been the, obviously, everyone knows it's been the weirdest year of all time. But I think there's a lot of stress behind the scenes for everyone who has families or if you don't have family and you're just not able to live a normal life. I'm just thankful for the moments that our family has been able to kind of band together and have a laugh. It's not, I don't think that I would pick our family structure as the group that should be spending 24-7 time together all the time. Why not? I mean, just based on, you know, seven months of experimentation, I would suggest it's maybe not

the way to go. But I'm really proud of my kids for hanging in there. my wife. And I think to do this show and the couple of times that you hear from our listeners that say, like, you know, life is so up and down, but thank you for still caring about this and creating a diversion at a time when it would be easy to bail on a diversion, that I am thankful for the type of listeners that our show has versus if we worked on some other random show. They're a special crew, and so they've actually helped a lot to hear what they have to say. And so that is, I say that unironically, that I appreciate. No, I mean, yeah, that's, that's very well said.

I don't even need to repeat it because it's all so true. Like, and especially if you're listening to this show, Thanksgiving, whenever you're listening to, whether it's Friday, Saturday, or whatever, you're the diehard. We're putting this show out for you. We love being regular, and we appreciate it. I'm going to say I'm thankful for the service industry workers. I know that sounds like I'm, like, pandering, but I went to pick up my turkey and. not turkey, actually, we ordered some brisket today. And Emeka is cooking a turkey separately.

Brisket and a bunch of sides. Like, she cooks some up, but we also pick up some stuff. You know, take a little bit of the load off, since I'm obviously not helping. That's the way to go. And it was like this huge operation at this nearby place that's great. And there's all these crazy lines. And there's these jerk wads that are like complaining about they're having to wait in the line that we pre-ordered from. While there's literally like 500 people in the parking lot.

it's like extremely well run and they have 20 people working on thanksgiving passing all this stuff out and all i'm thinking is like you can't tip these people enough and there's these jerks who are like complaining and saying i'm going to cancel my order because they're like waiting 20 minutes and you just see this attitude and the and waiters and everyone working the restaurants who are keeping us fed and everything that's the last thing they deserve they deserve our thanks just like the medical people and everyone else that's forced to like be out in the world and working for us there so So shout out to the restaurant industry, everyone else. Ricky, let's bring you in here.

Are you still there? Oh, there you are. Just lounging on your drag. Before we go, why don't you give us a comfortable environment you're in there? Give us something you're thankful for it too. Yeah, I'm thankful for my dog, Thor. It's his birthday today and my family. I wish I could be with them.

Yeah, that's too bad. We're sorry. We're sorry that's true, but you know, you're with your girl. And you're with us, Erica. You can never leave us. I can't. Wait, there was one thing you did not answer, though, Erica, like dog years, I don't, are those, is that a real thing? Yeah, he's six in human years, but dog years, I think it's seven years per year. So he's like kind of getting old.

He's 42. He's somewhere between me and Mark in years. Right. Yeah. Why did they have a separate timeline for like? Because I think their body like progresses faster. Well, it's just a weird human thing to do because we, we feel bad that they die so quickly. So for some reason, we have to, like, make an adjustment. It doesn't really make sense to me. It comforts us and it benefits us. It's just sort of sad they live, you know, it is one of the bummers about having a dog. I had a dog. I love dogs and cats, but, you know, they die pretty quick.

I kind of wish, like, a dog's lived, like, 500, for 500 years where they've seen, like, oh, this was George Washington's dog at one point. Now it is our dog. Yeah, that's one of the pluses. We have a turtle. Shout out to seaweed. Our pet. But, you know, they live a while. Okay, okay.

I have a turkey in the oven. I don't care about seaweed. She was like, I don't really want to thank Thor. I just thought it would be the quickest thing I can do to get out of here. I was a turtle when I was five, but he ran away. So that reminds me. I've got seaweed right now, you know, underrated animal turtles. They last.

They've been around. They're smart. Good move naming an animal after a plant. It wasn't my naming. That's it for us. We will be back with our preview show, though, on Friday. It'll be up mid-afternoon, East Coast or early afternoon, West Coast. We're taping it as early as we can, and we'll get it out to you.

Thank you all for listening to this little surprise drop until Friday. See you. I'm going to be able to be. Hey everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move to Six, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.

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