NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - The 2019 San Diego Graybeards

Episode Date: March 29, 2019

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, and Chris Wesseling get you up to date with all the latest news around the league including the Eagles acquiring Bears RB Jordan Howard (5:33),... Greg Schiano stepping down from the Patriots coaching staff, (8:25) and 49ers GM John Lynch passing on Odell and Antonio Brown. (17:19) It’s that time of year again! The 2019 San Diego Graybeards roster is released. (31:07)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:30 Chris Wessling to my left. Greg Rosenthal to my right. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. How are you? Big addition to the studio. It's called the Wessling Cam. One of the in-house cameras is just trained on West at all times.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And Wes is not comfortable with it, but. And it's just displaying in front of us on a big screen looking at old Wes's shiny dome. Wes, not comfortable with it, but the fact of the matter is, Greg and I like it, and two beats one. So that is a new tradition here at the Iran-the-N-Fel podcast. I like my head, shiny. I like more Weses. I mean, imagine a show with two Weses just like arguing at each other. Ah, you don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I don't know why I'm giving them that. You're full of beer. You're out of your treat. We should have that Wes be in favor of instant replay for OPI and DPI. And then this, Wes, be angry about it. Yeah, that Wes, that Wes hates Joe Flacco. This, this Wes loves him. It is funny to think about.
Starting point is 00:02:31 And you can basically look at his brothers and push this theory forward that I just came up with. It was that Wes would get really sick of Wes. Like, if there was another Wes, they'd be added to their throat. Oh, yeah. That's borderline cutting, but also like Wes agrees with you. So that's good. Oh, yeah. Neither one would back down.
Starting point is 00:02:50 It basically is watching you with your brothers. No, it's like Superman and bizarre or Superman. He would be strong where I'm weak and vice versa. I have an update. I mentioned this off camera, off mic, a couple weeks ago, that the old Zusser was getting some pocket squares for his blazers, what do you call them, the jackets? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:15 For our various duties on camera here. And I'll tell you what, Wes, you saw it as what it was. It was a gauntlet, throwing a gauntlet. Greg, reacting with a little bit of like, ooh, where did this come from? All right. That's not true. Well, who shows up in a safari jacket? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:32 That was like there was a coincidence there. So I just want everyone to know that in the mail from Amazon arrived four new pocket squares and the little device that you put in the in the coat pocket where you prop up the pocket square. And that is making its debut next week on the around the NFL Twitter show. So check it out, everybody. Well, there is, I mean, the ball is clearly in our court now. No, my reaction was more, think of how much time I would have spent of your life if I told you every time a new clothing article arrived at my house.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah, but you might not like that. You weren't trying to be the rising tide lifting all boats like Dan is here. Right. I'm saying, listen, the old Zusser is bringing the pocket squares. You look around every male figure in media now is rocking the pocket square. Why haven't we done it? Do we want to be taken seriously or not? Finish the suit.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Finish the suit. Who was that? Who said that? There was a guy who ran into us at the Super Bowl at like 2.30 in the morning. I think literally ran into it. Stopped us and said, you all look great. You dressed well. But finish the suit.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Get a pocket square. So Dan's like thinking like, wow, I just watched one of those, you know, up to the minute shows from 2015. I got to step up what Andrew Siciliano's been doing since then. See, I hear your voice and the tone. And it sounds like jealous. because you didn't think of this first. Because now you're in a tough spot. I've worn...
Starting point is 00:04:55 You're in a tough spot. I've actually worn Pocket Squares on NFL network multiple times. How about that? I've never seen it. In fact... It's only been like literally twice.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I think it's twice, I think. There was one tied into his thing. Yeah, I think the wardrobe department once or twice just put them in there and she's like, all right, let's do it. But they were not your part. They were not mine. They were the NFL networks.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Gauntlet thrown down. You're in a tough spot because now if you wear... And I know you, Greg. If you put the pocket square in, you're going to be like, uh, Hans is going to think I didn't because of him.
Starting point is 00:05:25 And now you're in an impossible spot. I'm not into it. I can, I can, you don't want to finish your suit. I want you guys to look good. I think we all should should feel good, look good, play good.
Starting point is 00:05:35 One of the best quotes ever. Dion Sanders? Yeah. Do you know, play good. Play good, feel good. Eat good and make money. Something along those lines. All right, big show today.
Starting point is 00:05:46 The 2019 San Diego gray beards are unveiled. Yes, that is the making a roster out of the best remaining free agents on the market. The old zeusa wrote a banger NFL.com slash hands us. Check it out. And we will talk about it. For new listeners to the show, Dan is the old zooser. So he's not talking about a guest that's going to join our show a little later. It's him.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And also maybe, Ricky, a little musical accompaniment to the graybeards. Yeah, I'll work something up for you. Okay. And, but before that, we're going to do some news. So let's hit it. I'm here, so I won't get fine. Oh, Beast Mode. Is that a call forward?
Starting point is 00:06:33 It's called a not a callback, but the opposite. It's like a tease. It's like a tease. Nice news coming up. Beast mode might have a role in the news and beyond on today's show. Let's start, though, with a running back that is not Marshall Lynch. is Jordan Howard. The Chicago Bears have moved the running back,
Starting point is 00:06:52 shipping him to the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for a 2026th round pick. This went down on Thursday night. The Eagles announced it. Conditions in the trade could flex that selection to a fifth rounder in 2020. We'll see. Howard's been, you know, been dangled in trade talks
Starting point is 00:07:10 since before, even last season. Tari Cohen has really emerged in that office, especially under Matt Nagy. So now with Mike Davis. Also in the room, Jordan Howard doesn't have a place. Wes, I remember,
Starting point is 00:07:27 I remember when my first son was born. Maybe it was my second. It would have been 2016. Jordan Howard was breaking out on the scene. And you were never really sold on Howard as a player, but he did manage to put up some numbers and be a productive guy for a while there in Chicago. What do you think about?
Starting point is 00:07:47 where he fits in in Philly and where he is as a player at this stage. Well, I think that he was going to be demoted in Chicago, and it's never a good idea to carry demoted guy who's been used to being the star of the offense and the focal. Demoted? Demoted? Demoted? Demoted? He's hitting that T-hard. I noticed that too. Demoted? Demoted. Demoted. Demoted.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Okay. Sorry. Yeah. Well, you know, he's used to be in the offensive focal point, which he was under John Fox. And we knew last year when Negi came in, immediately the rumors were there that Jordan Howard doesn't fit the offense. And we saw that. His production went way down last year. And I think
Starting point is 00:08:22 of Jordan Howard. I've always thought of him as sort of the late stage Adrian Peterson skill set. He's a one-dimensional back. No coach wants to play him on passing downs. And he's sort of a tell for what you're going to do. So you sort of have to tailor your offense to him and the bears weren't going to do that. And he caught
Starting point is 00:08:38 20 passes for them last year. So they tried to make him a little bit of a threat in the receiving game. He still had 250 carries. So he's been accurate. I give the Eagles credit. Like, everyone says you don't have to pay for running backs. Easy to find running backs.
Starting point is 00:08:52 They're not panicking at running back. And they sent a sixth round pick in 2020. These fifth and sixth round picks are overrated. And I think smart teams like the Eagles and the Rams and the Patriots have been using them to get veterans who, Jordan Howard's not going to change their team, but he's going to fill a hole for the 2019 season and be solid. Doesn't it feel like the last couple of years, especially the Eagles are the kings of these These type of players that are, they have some history of success,
Starting point is 00:09:18 but they're not superstars, but they might be more valuable than people realize and the Eagles bring them into their building. They do a great job. And they have Corey Clement there. We'll see who else. Wendell Smallwood. Wendell Smallwood. Maybe they draft someone who knows.
Starting point is 00:09:31 It's not a long-term solution. But if you need someone to take some carries up the middle, they needed someone. Meanwhile, on the throne of Slees, the New England Patriots, thought they had a defensive coach on their staff for the 29th. season in Greg Shiano, even, although I guess he was never, the hire was never officially announced. And we didn't know what it is. They have announced, they have not announced their coaching staff at all. Right. Yet. So they haven't announced any coaching changes, which is a typical Patriots move. They don't do it until every last spot is filled. But there was a,
Starting point is 00:10:02 an idea out there that he was going to be the defensive coordinator. Yes. I think that was the expectation. Well, guess what? Greg Shiano walks away from the Patriots citing a need to step back, spend some time with his family. Here is a statement on the matter. I have informed Mr. Kraft and Coach Belichick that I am stepping down from my position. This is not the result of any one event, but rather a realization that I need to spend more time
Starting point is 00:10:28 on my faith and family. I don't want to look back years from now and wish I had done things differently. Therefore, I'm taking time away from the game to recalibrate my priorities. Bill Belichick in a statement was behind Shiano. But this was the same Belchick that a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:10:43 days ago and in a different media context was talking about how excited he was to have Shiano on the staff. So something happened. We don't know all the details, but what we do know is that Shiano will not be connected to the Pats. Well, they've been friends a long time, and Belichick said that in the statement that he's a close friend. So it's not even worth speculating about why. Maybe it's just the adjustment going from college back to the pros and remembering what that's like. Who knows? The faith and family thing is interesting. Well, right. I mean, I mean, they wouldn't have more hours. I mean, the college coaching is an easy job compared
Starting point is 00:11:13 to the NFL job. That's just a fact in terms of the hours that you spend. But it's wild and it points out the incredible exodus from the Patriots this off season, not just on the coaching staff, but the defensive coaching staff is what stands out the most. Here's who left. The defensive play caller last year, Brian Flores, cornerbacks coach Josh Boyer, they both went to Miami. But I think people know about Flores. The defensive line coach, Brendan Daly, went to the chiefs, coaching assistants to Marcus,
Starting point is 00:11:43 Covington, Mike Pellegrino also left. Or no, they might have to step up. If you go to the Patriots website right now and go to their staff, a bunch of offensive coaching staff, and you can look at their bio, you know, find out all about Josh McDaniels. There's one defensive coach. His name is Steve Belichick. That's it.
Starting point is 00:12:04 He's the only coach that anyone knows about that's on the staff. Like, what is happening right up? His picture looks like you just got back from a Smashing Pumpkins concert in 1990s. It's just Bill and Steve. Maybe that's Bill's dream. You know what I mean? It's crazy. I wonder if there's a little bit of like Michael Jordan in 1993 going on here.
Starting point is 00:12:22 What's left to prove? So Belichick's like, what if I just run the defense, me and my son by ourselves? That's a challenge. And to your point, you're looking at that Patriots.com site. The only one that really matters is the giant photo of the guy on top. Everything else I think will be worked out. I don't know if you're raising any red flags on this, but come on. Bill knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:12:43 He'll figure it out. I think it's a little, it's, it's just another obstacle. And the bigger issue is that Rob Gruncowski, you know, retired. And Trey Flowers is gone, and they lost. That, to me, is a bigger concern than the coaches. But I think that's something to manage. I mean, they had this playing with Shiana, who he loves. And now he doesn't have a coach he loves.
Starting point is 00:13:04 All right, let's move on. The Raiders, Marshaun Lynch. He spent the last two years there. Well, the door might be closing for, beast mode because Isaiah Crowell, we spent last year with the Jets, signs with the Raiders, a one-year
Starting point is 00:13:20 deal worth up to two and a half million rap sheet reported Thursday. Oakland confirmed the move. And you join a backfield that also has Jalen, Richard, D'Andre Washington, Chris Warren,
Starting point is 00:13:35 Doug the muscle hamster, Doug Martin is not in the mix there. And neither it seems will Marshaun Lynch at this point, right? Well, Rap Sheets said today on our air that it's unlikely Marshawn Lynch will be back with the Raiders. There was talk that maybe after the draft, they could see where they are, but it seems like this is a move. And I thought, Isaiah Crowell, who I'm sure
Starting point is 00:13:57 Jets fans were dancing in the street when he was gone replaced by Levi-on-Bel, had some promising games last year. He did. I mean, listen, don't get caught up in the 4.8 yards per attempt. He finished. That was Bradley Roeby assisted. Yeah. Game against the Broncos. when he just ran through open stretches. He had 685 yards on the season and over 200 came in one game. He was really, he was kind of a nothing burger for much of the season,
Starting point is 00:14:22 especially in the second half. But yeah, maybe you catch him and if you use them the right way, he can give you a little something. He is a replacement level running back. Yes. I mean, and that's not good in the receiving. The readers are kind of the team
Starting point is 00:14:35 at the end of free agency that just almost have a little too much money to spend. They also sign linebacker Brandon Marshall from the Broncos. who I thought was maybe one of the better players available. So it's not a terrible move, but you're paying just like a little extra. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:49 Like the Eagles, they get Jordan Howard, who's on a rookie contract, who's better than Isaiah Cruel, who's getting paid double what Jordan Howard's going to pay. So it's just like a small difference of like I think what the smart teams do and what the Raiders do. Did you know that Brandon Marshall
Starting point is 00:15:04 pulled a Anthony Barr on the Greybeards? We had a handshake deal. He was going to be our starting linebacker, and then he walks across the street and signs with another team. Do the graybeards have the GM app? They got to get on that. Yeah. We're not technically.
Starting point is 00:15:20 You got to question their GM. We're not officially, well, that's me. We're not officially recognized by the National Football League at this point. In fact, there could be litigation coming at some point. A fledgling operation. But I would love to be a part of. It's a savvy move to talk to Brandon Marshall because you're going to have those dumb fans who thinks it's the other Brandon Marshall. And just, hey, buy the ticket for that.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Brandon Marcia, yeah, that Brandon Marshall was not in negotiations with the graybeards, which tells you a lot about his value. Wow. The Dallas Cowboys make a trade. Robert Quinn arrives from the Miami Dolphins in exchange for a 2020, 6th round pick. He then, he takes a little bit of a haircut. That's a reduction in pay. He signs a new one-year deal worth $9.2 million.
Starting point is 00:16:05 He could earn up to $10 million if he could record seven sacks, which feels like a very Robert. Quinney number. Oh, yeah. Wes, what do you think about this move? Did this make the Dallas defensive line better? I think it did. If you look, I'm surprised by the contract number.
Starting point is 00:16:21 That really surprises me. The offense are pained some of it. Okay. You look at this team and David Irving did not really give them anything last year. He was great in flashes the year before. Randy Gregory had a really good year. Both those guys are gone. And I think you bring in Robert Quinn, you bring in Carrie Hider, who was one
Starting point is 00:16:40 removed from an eight-sac season as a rotational pass rusher. They did a good job adding depth. They brought in Christian Covington from the Texans to play tackle for them. And I think they count on their defensive line having a lot of bodies to throw at people. And I think they did a good job coming up with depth here. Let me throw one thing out here, Greg. You tell me if this is completely crazy. But we just came off a season where Levi-on-Bel got tagged the second year and said,
Starting point is 00:17:05 no, smell you later. I'll be back next year with a big contract somewhere else. Is this, was there a little bit of thought that we want to protect ourselves in case this DeMarcus Lawrence situation turns ugly? Apparently contract talks are going nowhere between Lawrence and the Cowboys right now. No, because, man, they can't imagine a world where they wouldn't have DeMarcus Lawrence. And he's getting paid so much on the franchise tag. It'd be hard to imagine him sitting it out. But it raises the point that I think they should just be spending that money on resigning their old guys.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Like, I get it, Quinn. I've always rooted for Robert Quinn, but the fact that the Rams and the Dolph, gave up on him in back-to-back years and both seasons were so similar in that he came out of the gates in September looking very strong and then his back issues has kind of made him a career what if because for for younger fans who just kind of are you know haven't been following like his 2013 season to me ranks with the best defensive seasons of the decade and it was it was one season but he had that sort of get off and that sort of potential but he hasn't been able and he's known as kind of play him 20 snaps a game yeah maybe I think I
Starting point is 00:18:09 think that could be better that he's a part-time guy and he's getting paid a lot i can't i can't kill even the contract it's more kind of the overarching thought that this is necessary because they can't develop their own guys talk about charlton yeah randy gregory charlton david erving's gone and so it was kind of a necessary move when they should be really investing in in lawrence and amari cooper and everyone um in other news uh john lynch a general manager of the 49ers is spoken out about the wide receiver room of the 49ers, which he likes, but absolutely people are going to connect the 49ers to O'Dell Beckham and Antonio Brown, the two big wide receivers that ended up going to other teams.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Here's what Lynch had to say on why O'Dell Beckham and the 49ers could never really be. Well, you know, I would tell you, you know, on O'Dell, we were very much in that we had been in it. And I think, ironically, the fact that we had the number two pick made it more difficult because they wanted that badly. They wanted two number ones. And we weren't one of the part with that. That's too valuable to pick. That was an interview with the athletics, Matt Barrow.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So the fact that they were at number two, they were so high up, they couldn't justify doing it. Was that a mistake? Well, I think it tells you that they wanted him every bit as badly as the brand. rounds did. But not having, having that number two pick in the first round, it's, it's another reminder that when we talk about first round picks in general, I think analytics have taught us to separate late first round picks, mid first round picks, and early first round picks. There are generally 15 to 20 players in every draft that separate themselves from the crowd. And you want one of those top 15 to 20 picks. But the 22nd pick might be a lot closer in value to a mid-second round pick than
Starting point is 00:20:00 say the 10th pick in the track. It's confusing because, you know, they didn't get two first round picks, you know, the Giants. Well, they consider Jibril Peppers a first round. Oh, I don't. I mean, he's already played two years and it's different. The things we tell us. I guess. I guess it makes sense, though, because the Browns have that mid-first-round pick,
Starting point is 00:20:16 and it would have been a little tricky for the 49ers to work that out and or they maybe just offer their 2020 first-round pick, but that's not as good. I expected the 49ers to be even a little louder than they have been in this off-season, even though they've been plenty loud. speaking of Antonio Brown in the comments on KNBR Lynch clearly he's one of the guys
Starting point is 00:20:40 that didn't like what was going on with Antonio Brown it seemed we took a quick look and then we just said hey we're not interested in that for our team that's how I read into that's the second time he said almost the same quote I mean he's repeated this twice it is interesting the little drips and drabs that have come out
Starting point is 00:20:56 the recording of True Rosenhouse and Antonio Brown talking about how desperately they didn't want to play for the Buffalo Bills was interesting. The fact that the Patriots have now been confirmed as they were kind of lightly in on Antonio Brown, but they weren't willing to give up the same sort of compensation that the Raiders were.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Here's a report out there about Josh Rosen from Joel Klatte appearing on Wednesday's Undisputed. What is Undisputed? Whose show is that? That's the Skip Bayless show. Why isn't it just called the Skip Baylor's show? It is confusing because they got the two shows. They got the Whitlock show.
Starting point is 00:21:34 They've had that. I don't know what that's called, but it's a confusing name. And then the Bayless one, they just name it after the people. Right. I'm with you. He's with a Sharp brother, right?
Starting point is 00:21:44 Skipping Shannon, right? That's right. Well, I call it the Skip and Shannon show. Sure. How much money are you paying these guys? Put their names on the barquee. Skipping one of the Sharp brothers. It's just like depends on the day.
Starting point is 00:21:56 More like skip the show. Oh. Bang. Anyway, and now we're going to use their content on our show. Anyway, Clatt said Josh Rosen is, quote, going to get moved. Clat added that the Chargers, Giants, Patriots emerged as the top suitors. And one of those teams, Chargers, Giants, and Patriots has already offered up a second round pick, which seems like pretty good value, all things considered.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I guess it's going to happen, Greg. Just a matter of when. I think so. I left just hearing Cliff Kingsbury talk about it. leave that and just reporters talking amongst themselves and buzz and all that I think they know that they'll be able to trade
Starting point is 00:22:39 them and they think the best offer is going to come closer to the draft. I'm curious though about the Patriots there. There was sort of a strong undercurrent from multiple people whether the Patriots are putting out there to get people off the center or not. I don't know that the Patriots were not necessarily very high
Starting point is 00:22:55 on Josh Rosen. That I heard from multiple people. It doesn't matter to you either way though because you're out. No, I love, if you get Josh Rosen, I'm back in. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. How convenient?
Starting point is 00:23:07 Is it because of the Chosen Rosen thing? I want to root for Josh Rosen and that just would be fun. It's not like I'm out like, oh, screw them. They're still going to be my favorite team. This is just a boring topic. Is this like if a team signed a quarterback named Josh Wessel, I would have to start following it because it would be the same, you know, beginning. That would be just like an interesting plot twist that you didn't see coming.
Starting point is 00:23:26 But I think the Chargers are the most interesting team here. and there are some pretty strong rumors connecting them with Drew Locke as well in this draft. So I think they are absolutely in the quarterback market right now. Really? Because I think Omar Ruiz reported Monday that they are not really looking to draft a quarterback. It's silly season. It is tough to know what to believe. We talked about it on Wednesday's show, the big news, the bombshell news,
Starting point is 00:23:52 out of the owners meetings that offensive pass interference and defensive pass interference will be reviewable. in at least 2019, the one dissenting vote amongst the owners. It was 31 to 1 was Cincinnati Bengals owner Mike Brown. And at the annual league meeting in Phoenix, he told the SPN, well, I've been in that position before. I just vote with my conscience and how I see it.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I'm not trying to be offensive. I understand if someone else doesn't want to go my way. He added, when they put it in, they were smart enough to restrict it more than it is today, and it was supposed to be used only when the play had a big impact on the game. you weren't supposed to use it. Well, it evolved over time, and now they use it in all kinds of situations.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I don't think that's good for the game. It is the fact that there's going to be officiating error, but it's also the fact that instant replay doesn't always correct it. It actually compounds the problem on occasion. Wes, you have a tortured relationship with the Cincinnati Bengals. You probably won't classify it that way. You'd say it was a difficult or a, you know, a ill-fated relationship. I'd say you and the Bengals, not always on the same page.
Starting point is 00:24:56 But in this situation, you are. It was like the woman who tried to engage yourself to you. Right. Similar cinch. Similar sitch. I can't remember agreeing on Mike Brown in many things, but 100% agreement. And these are the two biggest problems that I know young listeners might find this hard to believe. But believe me, I was around when they institute an instant replay.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Wes is old, guys. It was expressly put in for particularly egregious big impact calls. It has evolved over time where you have to save coaches from themselves. Who's watching out for the game? The competition committee has to watch out for the game. Coaches are protecting their control over the game. They're winning edge. It's no coincidence that two of the greatest coaches in NFL history,
Starting point is 00:25:38 Bill Walsh and Don Schull, have the word edge in their memoirs. Because they're looking for any percentage point that can give them a small favor. That's how you win in the NFL. And getting 50-50 calls in their favor is one edge at these control freaks. And I call them control freaks, not in a negative way. When you invest that much time, you want your. fingerprints all over the game, you have to save replay from the coaches. But that's on the officiating in the league office to stop overturning calls unless they're
Starting point is 00:26:07 obvious. It's on them to take the challenge away from the coaches who have misused it since the rule went into existence. If they consistently, and I think they did a better job of this towards the end of last year, if they consistently just didn't overturn calls unless it's obvious as the rule intends, I think you would have a better situation. well that is a hypothesis finally in the news
Starting point is 00:26:29 the alliance of American football the AAF which is was launched the week after the Super Bowl to a decent level of fanfare we had some fun with that fact but the bottom line is that the NFL was behind it on some level maybe not enough is
Starting point is 00:26:45 what's coming from people connected to the league the games have aired on our network but the AAF chairman told the USA Sports USA Today Sports in a recent interview that the NFL PA is not cooperating with AAF because they're refusing to allow the first year league to use young NFL players.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Tom Dundon is his name. He actually aided the AAF earlier in the season by making a $250 million investment in the league when they were having some early payroll issues. And it's just incredible to me, guys, that first of all, Dundon, this guy's a billionaire. He owns the Carolina Hurricanes,
Starting point is 00:27:24 franchise. I don't care who you are. A quarter of a billion dollar investment is a big deal. But I'm surprised this year, there are eight games into a season, essentially. And there's talk that this thing could be, the plug could be pulled as soon as after this weekend's games. And the reason why is because I guess the AAF thought the NFL was going to give them more support beyond just some television coverage that they would actually be a true pipeline, which is a great idea in theory. But you understand why the NFL is like, whoa, we can't. can't do that. This is professional football injuries and there's a collective bargaining agreement involved here. It's not that easy to do that. We can't help you like that at this point.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Meanwhile, the AAF is saying that it is drowning essentially. This could be a quick, ugly death. It sounds like a threat from Dundon that isn't to be taken too seriously. It's really a fight between him and the NFL players union. I think the NFL does want it to be a developmental league. They've said as much, and they would like players on futures contracts to be available to the AAF. The problem is the union has not agreed to that. There's a battle back and forth. And Dundon seems like he's so frustrated, and he's the chairman, that he says, if they're not going to give us their young players, we have to look at all of our options, one of which is discontinuing the league. He knows the NFL doesn't want that to happen.
Starting point is 00:28:48 So he's trying to push the NFLPA to negotiate. It's a little in the weeds here. That's quite a bluff, you know, to say we might even... He said one of which is potentially discontinuing the league. Because I think the NFL really wants it. And by the way, it's been doing like huge numbers relatively. Huge relative, you know, to what's on NFL network normally. And relative to other sports, I mean, relative to like a PGA, a regular kind of PGA weekend
Starting point is 00:29:19 or a Grand Slam tennis quarterfinding. like it's been doing pretty there's a reason why they're showing those on NFL network instead of old NFL games people are watching it the in baseball is an example like the Arizona Fall League or something it's not a natural parallel but you can have players if you're a fan of let's say I'm a fan of the Jets I want to see a young prospect um if it's in that league I would be interested in that but there's just I understand why that probably is never going to happen because the the PA is that's just too much of a risk the sports too dangerous in that sense to risk bodily harm and ruining a prospect on someone else's
Starting point is 00:29:58 team essentially. It feels like a purgatory because the NFL, like to me has been doing them a solid with all the attention they've been giving them. But if you're not like in bed with them, like the NBA has been with the WMBA and the G League, like those are entities of the NBA. But is the AAF? No, it's somewhere in between. I mean, the NFL is clearly. I mean, the NFL is clearly throwing its weight behind the AAF in relation to the XFL, which I think it wants to fail. I mean, I'm just like reading the tea leaves there, but you're right. And I think that's what the AF's trying to do is make it a little more formal. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:34 That's what's happening in the news. All right. You know, it's crazy how time flies. This is the fifth season of the Greybeards, a fake football franchise that started here in Los Angeles. And then when the Chargers were ripped away from San Diego, we moved the Greybeard. Beards South and down the old five. And I'll tell you what, what are the great beards? We look at what's going on.
Starting point is 00:31:01 We're three and a half weeks out from the league year. And we see players without jobs, players that deserve jobs, players that can help teams in 2019. And many of these guys, the majority of the players on the roster, will help teams in 2019. So I want to start with a plea, Greg, to, um, sometimes I don't want it to be lost. I don't want this isn't flipping. I want all these players to get jobs. You do.
Starting point is 00:31:28 So you look at yourself as kind of a gateway to the NFL. You're like your own developmental league. In a way, yes. And I have the platform at NFL.com. If one general manager happens to read the Greybeard's article, which really smart decision, NFL.com slash hansis, and sees a player that's like, oh, wait a second. Maybe I should check in on this guy again.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Then the Greybeards have done their job. So we are a feeder system in a way. You could look at it a different way, which is that if it took reading about a free agency, a free agent available on the Greybirds to know that he was out there, that general manager should be fired. It's a bad sign for that team. But before we go through.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Wait, same. Oh, way, I don't want to give it away. Before we go through the roster to send that message, that positive message, put together a little bit of a musical number. because music is the universal language. That's true. I thought that was sex. No?
Starting point is 00:32:25 Wait, that's, no. I thought it was Esperanto. Ricky, hit it. This is the building. Graybeard, give him a chance, give him the shot to prove them wrong. Gray he beard, the mind is sound, the body is tight, the soul is able. Gray he bea Give him a chance
Starting point is 00:33:19 Make him feel whole Bring him inside your home Gray bea Gray bea Gray beard Gray beard Gray beard Gray beard
Starting point is 00:33:36 Gray beard I've got to tell you that was better than some of the stuff I've seen in halftime shows you know what i was getting a little bit of a jackson main vibe you know like the first the first kind of like the first kind of like rock song that they play that's just like a jackson main banger yeah i like that thanks man all right with that out of the way and i feel like i've little nickel back maybe thrown in there that's a little it's got a nickel back vibe i could say but there's some electronic elements in there we're not we're not just
Starting point is 00:34:13 When the drums start picking up the beat, I mean, let's watch out. All right. Chow, ladies. It was like the Miami Vice scene with something in the air tonight. All right, that was a dated ref, but I'm with you on it. All of my references are dated, and I don't care if people get them or not. In fact, it's better for me, if only a few do. I like fact-checking pop culture.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Ricky, do you know what Miami Vice is? Yeah, it's a movie. No, it's a TV show. With Jamie Fox and Colin Farrell? Yeah. Oh, God. Please tell me, you know, it was based on the TV show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Oh, she didn't. She didn't. All right. Here we go. Quarterback. I got, and again, same thing. You guys, you evaluate this roster and don't hold back. I had the big fish, Evan Silva, helped me out last year.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And because he's so professional, he took it overly seriously. And I took up a lot of his time and I felt bad about it. So I didn't bring him up this year. So I'm going to lean harder on you guys in 2019. but thank you, Evan, for your help last year. All right, here we go. Sam Bradford, 31 years old. He's the starting quarterback of the gray beards.
Starting point is 00:35:21 He's 31. He might be the oldest 31 year old in the world. Let's face it, he's got bad knees, but, and he's been in mothballs for basically two years, but he is also two seasons removed from leading the NFL in completion percentage. That's 70% boys. He had a 20 touchdown 5 interception year that year with Minnesota, perfectly serviceable, maybe above that. I bring in Brock Osweiler
Starting point is 00:35:44 as a backup knowing that Sam probably isn't going to be able to make it through, you know, September. And Josh McCown, who will be 40 years old by week one,
Starting point is 00:35:55 but a great glue guy, everybody loves Josh. It's tough when Josh McCown's not even a starter on this team. He's still like the coach in the locker room. It's like, oh, yeah, he'll be great, a leader.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Right. For Sam Bradford. He looked cooked last year when he played. Like, just done. But you know what? He's there. He's basically a coach on the field, you know, and the practices and things of that nature.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Bradford's interesting because, you know, he played, granted, just two games the year before, but he averaged like nine yards per throw in those two games and then had a good year the year before. And then he was with this unbelievably terrible Cardinal situation that, like, it felt like it was ending a lot of careers and a lot of potential. But the fact that Josh Rosen came in and actually looked better
Starting point is 00:36:34 than Sam Bradford, that was a tough spot. I do like the fact that the number 101 guy on our top 101 free agency list, Every year he's on the gray beards, whoever it is. I mean, because that's good. He's got the good marketing pop from the list, and now you put Bradford, who's been there stuck at 101 on your tickets. Here's my fix for your quarterback room.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Go ahead. Oswald doesn't need to be anywhere near this team or any team. Okay. So I would take him off. And if Sam Bradford can't play, and a lot of people think his knees will never allow him to play again, on this team with who's available, I'm going to Josh Johnson round,
Starting point is 00:37:07 doing a little dual threat quarterbacking. he played I mean he held his own with the Redskins at the end of the year he's from San Diego too in a local legend San Diego state on this team you're going to need a running quarterback but the problem is though that you mobility with that line like yeah you want name value local guy this and that like how about you take a chance on a guy who can lead you to a mythical championship and there's only one guy out there that could do that and that's gino smith he was already in San Diego last year he knows where the locker rooms are he knows where the local taco places are so you don't have to help gino with that i mean he was in l a last year
Starting point is 00:37:43 whatever that's why we're in san diego now whatever he i don't know gino smith jino's phone didn't ring he was expecting a graybeard's call and i never came give him a chance give him a chance all right let's move on uh to the running back room um all right east mode marchion lynch the raiders closed the door well we open a window and and what's very important extremely important almost confusingly important in an organization is having a really good media guide cover and that's why not the only reason but Marshall
Starting point is 00:38:15 Lynch you put him in the room he's 33 years old by week one but you know that he's not going to be able to carry the load you want him to be a guy a little thumper between the tackles maybe he can carry you for a half or something keep him healthy hope he doesn't quit the team but you got to have a real potential bell cow guy
Starting point is 00:38:32 that's why Jay Ajai is joining us 26 years old by week one he has the international appeal as being a guy from England so we're going to get that hook and you know he's had his moments and he's still a young guy c j andersen's out there too so we're going to have a running back by committee obviously here showed he had some tread on the tires in l.a and what are we missing a guy who can catch a ball out of the backfield we're going to chew a fullback instead we're going to bring on tj yelled in 25 years old ability to catch the ball on the backfield your thoughts on my
Starting point is 00:39:06 I am severely crestfallen, disappointed that you do not have Darren Sproles in your backfield. Thought about it. It makes you wonder, what is the graybeards here? DJ Yeldon couldn't grow gray hair if he tried to. Right, that's the, like, what is the idea behind the graybeards? I always thought it was kind of a guy, you know, guys towards the end of their career. Yeldon's going to be on a team, on an NFL team, I think. Not yet.
Starting point is 00:39:29 He'll be, he'll be, he'll be a part-time. I know, but he's young. I didn't realize you were so cutthroat and he's young. Ajai is only 26. I take this very serious. He's coming off an injury, so he's going to be on an NFL team. So he's just stopping by the graybeards. I think Sprouls is a guy you combine with Marshall and Lynch.
Starting point is 00:39:45 To me, that's like a picture perfect graybeard's backfield. Now, I get why you're saying that the graybeards, we have. Another San Diego guy, by the way. Wow. Was he? He was. Well, maybe I made a mistake there, but it's not just about being old. The exercise is just covering who's out there,
Starting point is 00:40:01 but it just so happens that a lot of these guys end up being close to the wrong side of 30. which tells you a lot about how hard it. I totally made that up, by the way. He just, but he had his best years. I was checking that. I'm like, is that right? He had his best year. You know,
Starting point is 00:40:14 he had some great years with the Chargers. And that fan base who needs, uh, some hope and some, some love and some memory of that, you know, would be rooting him on. There's no reverse gears in this tank.
Starting point is 00:40:24 We move forward with the city itself, you know? Wide receiver. All right. A little bit of a problem with wide receiver. And this is, this pops up every year with the gray beards. It's,
Starting point is 00:40:33 it's a position scarcity for real team. Our team is left to pick up the guys that can't really move too well anymore. So they have a nice name brand, but maybe you worry about separation and you absolutely have an issue with taking the top off defenses. But what we got here is Des Brian. He's a condensed offense. Des Brian is 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Hasn't played in a long time now and is coming off an Achilles tear. But again, that media guy is very important. So we're going to slap him on there too. And just the season tickets. Because you've got to have eight different guys. You've got to have eight guys. And from the national, you want coverage from national outlets. Every team does.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Des's comeback attempt. Well, you find it here in San Diego. Michael Crabtree, he fell into the Lamar Jackson Abyss last year. But before that, he was a virtual lock for over a five-year stretch for eight or nine touchdowns a year. I know like Des, he doesn't get separation anymore, but hey, they're worse red zone targets. Pierre Garsohn, 33 years old. I don't know what he has left in the tank. Maybe we'll slide him into the slot.
Starting point is 00:41:35 See if you can do some damage in there. And then Kelvin Benjamin, just a giant. It's good to have a giant. And he's 28 and everyone else has given up on him. But that's part of the graybeard's aesthetic is giving people one last chance. So Kelvin, welcome aboard. Look how far Demarius Thomas has fallen. Can't even make the graybeards.
Starting point is 00:41:54 We were in negotiations, but it just didn't work out. No. Well, he's also coming off an Achilles tear and a arrest issue, I think. Yeah, we also, yeah, there was a car. issue. We also, we talked about it internally and having two over 30 wide receivers rehabbing Achilles tendon tears just seemed a little bit of a bridge too far. That's the cover of your meeting. You know, right. I think you want to, you know, think about Chris Hogan just because, just because. I looked at him. Maybe not a lot of production, but he brings kind of that Patriots
Starting point is 00:42:26 championship, you know, he teaches the guy what it's like to be the middle of a championship. I got a deep threat for you. Who? Terrell Pryor. I mean, a little bit of a poison maybe. Well, we haven't been able to find out exactly what it is he's bringing or taking away from locker. You're going to need someone to replace Crabtree when the Patriots sign him to be their like, you know, seventh guy in training camp. It just feels inevitable at this point. Once a gray beard, always a gray beard. It just stays where it is.
Starting point is 00:42:53 If they're not on a team on March 29th, we get them. All right. But you guys kind of are on the same page as me. Like, we're going to have an issue stretching the field. Oh, yeah. It's an annual. But I do, I think Des is a great move because, you know, most, if he was signed by most teams, it's like, all right, Des, you know, calm down with the social media a little bit. Let's just like focus on football.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Not at the graybeards. You're like, fly off the handle. Throw off that X. Take shots at the Cowboys. Do it all. Kill him. Tight end. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:23 So Antonio Gates was on the team last year. He's on the team again, even though he's going to be 39 years old by week one. me, he's a 1980 baby and we stick together. So Gates is back. I'm going to put Austin Safari and Jenkins in my starting role, though. Um, I saw a little bit that I liked in his year with the Jets. I know last year in Tampa, he kind of just disappeared, but Tampa Jacksonville. Jacksonville, excuse me, uh, but Jacksonville was just, it was a bad year in Jacksonville all around. So, um, I'm going to bank on that ASJ has something in, in the tank. Uh, and there's not, trust me, there aren't a lot of other options. The pickings are slim. I, one guy. One guy,
Starting point is 00:44:02 I might take a look at is a former second round pick. Max Williams of the Ravens, the two X's Max Williams? Double X. I don't throw up the double X. I like that. Yeah, injuries have really hurt him, but, you know, just for an upside point of view, maybe you could turn his career around. I think the combination of Gates and Michael Humanao Nui would be like really exciting.
Starting point is 00:44:24 You got the pass catcher, you got the pass catcher, you bring in. Which one's the past catch? Antonio Gates. I mean, he's a legend. He's a harder than. He's bigger than Human at this point. He's a Hall of Famer. And then, yeah, Humaon, you know, maybe brings in kind of, you know, you want as much
Starting point is 00:44:38 diversity as possible in terms of their background. So, you know, maybe get some Islanders coming to the game and. I like that. We'll take people from all over the world. I'm trying to look at it. So far, I don't think Marshall Lynch is a Hall of Famer, is he? He's actually an interesting case. Borderline.
Starting point is 00:44:55 He was crucial to a team that was in your dynasty. I think he's got an uphill battle, but I would listen to an argument for him. But Gates certainly will go to Canton. So he's the only short Hall of Fame guy we got. Offensive line, always a tough exercise because teams struggle to put together half a good offensive line in many cities. So we're taking what's left. Donald Penn just got cut loose by the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:45:20 He has three Pro Bowl bids. Most recently in 2017, so he was functional. John Sullivan just played in a Super Bowl. So that's not nothing. the rest Jeremy Parnell Quentin Spain Josh Sutton I mean it's a bit of a roll of the dice
Starting point is 00:45:38 with Sam Bradford behind center I think you have better tackles than some NFL teams It's not the worst offensive line Right that would not be the worst offensive line in the league Every other position group I think it would I worry that age is an issue you're right I think it's the average age of about 32 or 33 year old
Starting point is 00:45:56 You might struggle in the wrong game I like Penn though because you need a guy who does like, hey, we've got like the digital, like a seven minute video that we need a player to kind of do a breakdown, some digital videos, go on the local programming to kind of like promote the thing. And I think he's got that next career in the media and he can do that as well. Good call. Good call.
Starting point is 00:46:19 It's Jeremy Parnell. I said Jeremy. Well, yeah. I think it's pronounced Jeremy, but it's just spelled messed up. Might be one of those far of situations. annoying. Let's move to the defense now. I like the, this same thing happened last year. And I remember the Big Fish had a similar thought that the offense was shaky, but the defense is solid. There's some good players here. On the edge, Ziggy Ansah rap sheet put it out there that he has a shoulder issue that teams are worried about. But this is still a dude 12 sacks two seasons ago, 14 and a half back in 2015. He's 29 years old or 30 years old week one. I'll roll the dice. And I'm a little surprised. no one else has to this point. Maybe the shoulder is totally jacked.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But we did that. Nick Perry, another guy that has some history. It's a double-digit sack season. He's falling off in recent times. But, you know, we take a flyer. Adrian Claiborne, bring him on. He graded that well on PFF this season.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Played in two of the last three Super Bowls. And Mark Brady, the shadow league figure, why would he be calling me in the middle of an around the NFL podcast? He doesn't know this. shadowy behavior. And finally, Shane Ray, 26 years old. A total L.A draft bus that looks like, but we take a flyer on them and see if we can get anything out of them.
Starting point is 00:47:37 What do you think, Wes? Two guys I like who are not on this list. Aaron Lynch is one of my favorite free agents left on the board. I thought he showed really well as a rotational rusher for the Bears last year. And I would take a chance on Derek Morgan over maybe Shane Ray or Adrian Claiborne. He's coming off like, he had a terrible year last year. but the year before that, I believe he had nine sacks, and just now turning 29, I believe.
Starting point is 00:48:03 So still got maybe something left in a tank. Yeah, I think you do a nice job kind of, you know, having a variety of red flags from these guys. Whether if, you know, it could be like an, like Ziggyzza doesn't just have one injury. He's got like seven different surgeries over the last couple of years. He's also secretly 54. It's like Shane Ray, actually, he's young and healthy.
Starting point is 00:48:22 He had some talent, but kind of not known as, you know, the best behind-the-scenes guy necessarily. or, you know, it hasn't really, I don't know, hasn't really fulfilled this potential. I don't know if he's taking his career as seriously as you want. Claiborne, though, I like Adrian Claiborne. All right, good. Interior defensive line.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And here is the third and final man on the cover of the media guide. Is Indomacan Sue. I mean, the man is a photogenic and everyone knows Sue. Getting up there in years, but he's got something. He's still got the motor a little bit. Maybe he's not the same player who was in Detroit, but he will be a presence in our line. Corey Legit, another guy.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Listen, he's got a quad surgery he's recovering from. So you have that red flag. But this guy, and he was on, I believe, on your top one-on-one boys, an eight-year starter. Fairly high. Moe Wilkerson, this was a tough one for me because I don't like Muhammad Wilkerson in terms of, as a man. No, the way things ended with the Jets, I think he basically stole my favorite team's money and stopped working hard. But he's also at this stage in his career, 29 and coming off a serious leg injury in Green Bay. a lot to prove and probably looking for one last payday.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Brent Urban, not really familiar with his work, but he was on your top 101, so he got the final spot. I'm a little surprise he's still available. There's some good picks here. You might need like a Hog Mali, like a huge run stuffer. A guy like Danny Shelton or Damada Pecco, who's going to be about 34 years old, I'm sure has the gray beard. So just a beef, beefy guy could maybe take up a couple linemen.
Starting point is 00:49:55 A poor man snack. I like Dan immediately took some notes, wrote that down. Like beef in the middle. Just for situational. All right. Great. You know, there is a case to me made that I talk to you guys about this before I write the piece, but I like it. No, no.
Starting point is 00:50:08 No, no. You did a good job. Linebacker. Zach Brown, another guy. He's sitting at number 29 on the Wesleying and Rosenthal top 101. West would have had him in the top 12. He was mad at me. I like put him at 47 and it bounced out to that.
Starting point is 00:50:22 And now he's the captain of the defense of the graybeard. So that felt like a major steal. I'm not sure if he's captain material, but we take chances on guys. We give him opportunities other teams win. That's not a terrible defense, him and Sue and Zieggy flying around. There's talent. Jamie Collins, I don't know what to do with Jamie Collins. I don't know where he would fit in.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I don't know what the defensive scheme is, but I know he's a guy that has tools. I've been told there were tools. He's flexible. I think he can play in multiple schemes. This is going to be one of those defenses that answers the question. What would happen to a defense if everybody was just doing their own thing instead of like, It's true. Jamie Collins and Brown are just freelancing all over the field.
Starting point is 00:51:02 They're freelancing. They're just trying to get tackles. Sue's just like going for sacks, not trying to stop the run. So like you have a lot of big plays and highlights. Like you don't get a lot of stops, but a lot of turnovers. That sounds like it probably wouldn't work, but no one's ever tried it. Right. It's innovative.
Starting point is 00:51:16 I got Matt Titeo in there too. Short tackler. He's got a good background. So another big thing in our organization is that we're very big on giving the beat writers. some layups for their notebook leads. Oh, yeah. That's a good policy. So we got,
Starting point is 00:51:30 we got Teo in there, we got Dez. I saw a big writer for the Cool's actually retweeted your column and said this is a gift for beat writers. You have already written the stories. For us, I would be happy
Starting point is 00:51:42 to follow this team. There you go. George Bremer, who covers the George. Wow. Great. Well, I'm very big on that. Teo, another Hawaii guy, another guy who played in San Diego. So I think it's all coming together.
Starting point is 00:51:53 So you're picking up on our business model. cornerback. You know, the secondary, it's tricky. It's same thing where you worry about speed and age more. But Mo Claiborne, who I think is a rock solid number two type cornerback that I'm a little surprised the Jets aren't bringing back yet or haven't or won't. But he is out there. He'll be our number one cornerback.
Starting point is 00:52:13 So good luck to you. Mo. Brent Grimes, this is clearly, you know, I don't want Miko to come after me. If I left the boy off this list. So he's on the team, even though he's 13. at the stage. He's the oldest gray beard. It has some gray in his beard.
Starting point is 00:52:31 He's still out there like playing 60, 70 snaps a game and not doing poorly. Captain Munnerlin and Tremaine Brock round out my cornerback group. It's rough out there for cornerbacks. I do like Claiborne, who is better than some team's first cornerback. True. At safety, Eric Berry, come on. Come on to the great. You're a perfect gray beard.
Starting point is 00:52:52 That's a leader in the locker room. Yep. We love another. easy notebook lead. We love guys that are on the comeback trail. And Glover Quinn, he is contemplating retirement out in Detroit, but I thought maybe we could bring them back for one more
Starting point is 00:53:05 ride, a veteran in the locker room, and a guy that knows how to play the position. Mike Adams is another guy. 39. Definitely gray hair, gray beard. Trey Boston might be the best safety out there. You know what? Generio Felice, who does a great job
Starting point is 00:53:21 editing our stuff here at NFL.com, was stumping for Tray Boston, and I dismissed it. Mike Mitchell, who played for the Colts last year, and I believe one defensive player the week one week and had two dynamite games for them, but then ended up on the injured list as 33-year-old safeties. Yeah, he's kind of known for some dirty hits and whatnot. I think that might be more attractive to the graybeards than most NFL teams.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah, that's true. Kicker, the Kowski brothers, we're going to call him. Seabass is coming back, West, and you know why he's coming back. He has to. Because that man, for all that he's done for the kicking game, after 18 plus seasons in the NFL, we cannot let him go out with the shame of the divisional playoff round in Dallas,
Starting point is 00:54:04 yanking a hamstring, popping a hammie like some uncle in a family or union flag football game and limping off the field into retirement. No, come back, rehab that leg. He personifies what the graybeards are all about. That's right. What, bad special teams?
Starting point is 00:54:20 I mean, I'm going to be worried. You look at this team, you don't see a lot of gunners. You know, you're going to be a little worried about the kickoff coverage. And then if you're, if you're counting on Seabass to make a tackle on that kickoff, he's just going to run straight to the, straight to the, I didn't fill out the entire roster. So they're just imagine the gunners are all great athletic specimens. You can get a gunner off the waiver wire any week of the season. So Seabass is actually my starter.
Starting point is 00:54:42 People are going to say, oh, whoa, about Kaskowski. He's done really nice work. He has 45 Super Bowl rings. But that's a, that's a kicker in decline. I want Seabass starting. And by the way, as opposed to Seabass? And yes, I know what you're saying out there. Where's Kai for, Beth?
Starting point is 00:54:59 Well, Kai's Kai. Guy's Guy. We'll leave it at that. Finally, punter, Brian Anger. Nice work, Brian. Got the job with the Graveyard's. His name's anger. That's it.
Starting point is 00:55:10 That'll do it for you. Now, I will ask you the question, as we do every year. I'll get out of the way. I have a number in mind. I mean, please, Gaskowski's appeared in as many Super Bowls as anyone in NFL history other than Tom Brady and Mike Lodish. He's going to long for the ride. He's good for the ride. He's fine.
Starting point is 00:55:26 He's along for the ride. All right. I have the number in mind what I believe this team would go in a 2019 NFL season. If we swapped them out with, say, the Chargers, you get the Chargers schedule instead it's the Greybeards, what their record would be. Curious what you guys think. Be honest. I'm going to go 1 in 15. I mean, you just gave them.
Starting point is 00:55:50 You know what? You're a bad guy. You gave him the Raider. schedule. I mean, the charge of schedule, so they get to play the Raiders. I think they can pick off Oakland at home. But I think the problem is scoring. One in 15? I think that the combination of that quarterback room and the offensive line, it's going to be a lot of injuries. It's going to be bold and it's going to be problematic. I'm worried about that. A lot of times when you see teams that end up in a loss season 2 and 14, 3 and 13 playing out the string, it's because
Starting point is 00:56:17 their quarterback room looks a lot like yours. Injuries happen to the quarterbacks. Then they end up with like Matt Castle starting eight games or something. Okay. So I think the number one issue with your team is the quarterback room. And I think that limits your ceiling to four wins. But I'm thinking three and 13 is what this team represents. Okay. I look at it and I honestly see six wins.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I see a six and ten out. Well, you're like a proud father. And the goal is eight and eight. We're not trying to win a Lombardi. I mean, things can break, right? What that really is, you know, quietly doing is shaming the New York Jets and teams like that who have been unable to win six games for the last three years.
Starting point is 00:56:56 So you're saying that you could try to like manufacture a dig on my favorite team for no I'm saying I'm saying that you're digging on Mike McCagnan that he couldn't even put that you could put a better team of just castoffs than he's been able to do the last three years. Well, we were in an important rebuild and we tore it down before the dolphins and everyone is like thrown up Hosanas about the dolphins right now. The Jets did it two years ago. I didn't hear anything like that. I thought your point was the Greybeards did it to you.
Starting point is 00:57:20 The graybeards, they try to compete every year. We're kind of like the dolphins model before the organic fish tank. Oh, okay. You know? How about that, though? Nobody was throwing bouquets at the Jets feet two years ago when they did the same exact thing
Starting point is 00:57:34 the Dolphins are doing now? No, in fact, I was... I think they were trying to win, though, weren't they? They won five. I don't know. I was apoplectic that Todd Bulls was flat out lying about the rebuilding. All right, so there you go.
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Starting point is 00:58:23 Also, what else we have to promote? Yes, the Twitter show where I will be unveiling my pocket square, Greg. And we'll get a good tight shot on Greg when he first sees it. Dressing up for the Twitter show. On Wednesday at 1.30 Pacific, 430 Eastern. And yes, three more shows next week. And three shows every week through the draft and a little bit beyond it. All of the people who signed up for Mark Brady's Instagram account will be tuning in to see your pocket square.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yes, and that is the final reminder. Follow Mark Brady at Mark Patrick Brady on Instagram. But don't complain to him that there's not enough pictures of us and too many pictures of his family. I mean, yeah. It's a beautiful fan. It's his own account. So we've noticed you guys out there that have done it.
Starting point is 00:59:09 But we do appreciate that, well, actually, you know what's funny is he's actually lost like 75 followers since I last month. Get back on the train. Get back on the train. We boosted it by about four or five hundred, but now it's like, now it's in retrenchment. People are like, I don't want to see. You're going to need gimmicks. I don't want to see you hiking with Erica.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Ricky, what are you doing this weekend? Just hanging out. Just chilling? Yeah, it's been a lot of travel the past month. Oh, yeah. It has been, right. You need to, you need some downtime. Put the engine in neutral and just.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Coast. Well, you would float if it was a neutral. I meant just like if you're at the dock, you put it in neutral. Yeah. Just chill out on the yacht. Yeah, sounds perfect. Great. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:59:54 That's it. Great recap. Stan Hansa signing off for the Melman, the old boss, Ricky Hollywood, behind the glass. Let's go, Greybeard, 6 and 10. We can do it. Till Monday. Hey, Hey, everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here.
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