NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - The 28 Most Intriguing Trade Targets of 2026 with Bill Barnwell

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by ESPN's Bill Barnwell to give you their 28 most intriguing trade targets of 2026. Find out why Keon Coleman (03:00), DJ Moore (04:30), Brian Thomas Jr., (10:30), A.J. Brown... (14:50), Mac Jones (21:40), Maxx Crosby (26:15), Anthony Richardson (29:45), Quentin Johnston (47:20), Christian Gonzalez (52:40), Jalen Carter (57:55) and more made their big board! Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome to NFL Daily, where football's not back. But the Trade Candidates podcast is I'm here. In my garage with my friend, Bill Barnwell, across the country. I just had dinner with you, Bill, in San Francisco. It was delicious. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Neat Tice was there. What a meaning of the mind, Bill Gavin. And yet, it all felt like prelude to this. the show that everyone was asking me about on the streets of San Francisco. When is your trade candidates podcast coming out? The answer is today, Bill. This is the only thing I'm doing between Super Bowl and the middle of next week. I gave myself a week off.
Starting point is 00:00:48 This was the lone exception. I said, we have to do the trade candidates column, the throngs of fans in San Francisco, who stopped not only you, but me, and asked, when are you going to hit me with that Joe Tunney for, 2026. I have been grinding for days trying to find who the next Joe Tooney will be. Okay, so yes, Bill Barnwell nailed the Joe Tuny trade last year. We did 23 names last year. I have a feeling it's going to go over that this time. We hit about eight or nine,
Starting point is 00:01:21 depending on the statute of limitations. Does Jalen Phillips still count? I mean, that happened eventually. We got George Pickens, Micah, Debo, D.K., Minka Fitzpatrick. When did that happen? That happened at some point. Right before the season. So, okay, we got some good ones last year. And we're going to do great this year, too. I don't know if there's as many obvious names. And it's just a season where I think there could be a lot of trades very quickly before we get going.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I do think there is a situation in the league that is asking for a lot of trades. 11 teams with more than $40 million in cap space, seven between 20 and 40 million. That's before opening up space. Then there's about 12 teams that are tight to the cap or under, so it's going to be trickier for them. But a lot of tradable contracts out there. I do think we're in a world where trading is growing every single season, and it's only going to continue.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I agree. And maybe some of the names aren't quite as big. Some of the people I have as the most likely to be traded are not necessarily superstars, although some of them are, you know, pro-ball caliber. talents, but I have dozens of potential danger. And frankly, frankly, I stopped. I could have kept going. But I'm really interested in some people at the top of the list who are extremely
Starting point is 00:02:45 likely to be traded. And then some people at the bottom of my list, maybe not necessarily likely to be traded, but would be a fascinating deal if they actually went on the move. I think last year we did a bit of a sliding scale of like interesting names that also had a high chance to be traded early. We'll go in order of who we think could be traded. Like Stafford was right near the top. So was Pickens, which did happen.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I will give you the first pick here since you had the best hit when it came to Joe Tuny that came out of nowhere. So you can go first. Okay, Greg, there is only one player in the National Football League who has had his owner go in a press conference and talk about what a bad pick he was over the last three months. And that is Keon Coleman of the Buffalo Bills. I am starting with the player who was trashed by ownership at a press conference. Keon Coleman, who was a healthy scratch for the bills at times down the stretch, I do know show McDermott's out. So maybe this could be a thing where Joe Brady, who seemed to like Keon Coleman,
Starting point is 00:03:47 will keep him around. But I just feel like once ownership is saying, not for me, I feel like your agent probably realizes I'm not getting a second contract here. You get on the phone, you start talking to teams, you start hinting, hey, maybe a fresh start would make sense for all sides. It does feel like Keon Coleman would be a good place for us to start. What a way to start, saying the number six receiver on the bills could get dealt. No, I like it.
Starting point is 00:04:14 You're right. I mean, I actually forgot about him. I kept panicking. I keep going through different ways of looking. I looked at 2027 free agents in general because that's like a likely group to get traded. I went through just high paid players. I went through different rosters. And I somehow missed Keon Coleman.
Starting point is 00:04:29 That's a good one. And I do think very likely. There's not a ton of guys on rookie deals like that that just, it's just giving up on the player, but there's a handful of them. I have a different type of receiver, more of a medium to big name, but I think it's, you know, right near the top of my list of likely to get traded. DJ Moore can be traded by the Bears. You can save $16 million by tradium. He is owed $24 million guaranteed. You have more in terms of a trade savings.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Oh, sorry, sorry, in terms of cash. So $49 million over the next two years for DJ Moore in terms of cash savings for the Chicago Bears. Were you saying for CAP? Yes, for CAP. In general, I kind of looked for CAP, but the cash is very important to think about it, too. And it's also important to think about the contract that he has because that affects his trade value.
Starting point is 00:05:15 He's owed $24 million guaranteed this year, which is a decent amount for essentially like a one-year contract on DJ Moore. That said, the Bears are one of the teams that are over the cap. they have a lot of issues. They are, I believe, the defense in the NFL that is the fewest snaps returning this year. And so I just think they're going to have to make moves. And so this is a very logical one. If you have any landing spots or any other thoughts on DG Moore,
Starting point is 00:05:46 this is just one where I thought, I would frankly be surprised if he's not traded. I absolutely think he would have a market. I'm not sure what that market would be. Maybe I'll ask you that. What do you think it would cost to get DJ Moore considering the contract? Mid-round pick, you know, third, fourth round range. I don't think anything too crazy. The money here is significant.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I mean, $49 million over two years is not necessarily like wide receiver one money anymore. Obviously, when you're thinking about, you know, superstars getting $40 plus million a year, but it's more than the vast majority of teams are paying their number two wide receiver. And by the way, if he's on the roster for the Bears this offseason, 15 and a half million of his contract in 2027 becomes fully guaranteed. So you're talking about really not just the money for 2026 is already on the books guarantee.
Starting point is 00:06:34 You only get rid of that if you trade him to another organization. And I do think about how the season ended for the Chicago Bears with that interception where DJ Moore maybe wasn't on the same page. I don't think we have the, we don't have the playbook, so we can't say for sure,
Starting point is 00:06:48 but that route combination looked pretty wonky to me. Didn't necessarily seem like it was the smoothest route. or the most reliable route I've ever seen. He's had some stuff on film. I know J.T. O'Sullivan, who covers the Bears League closely and has broken on their games significantly for the past couple years. DJ Moore's effort level, his route running has come into question multiple times.
Starting point is 00:07:09 And it's just a lot of money for a team that you figure, okay, Luther Burden's going to be in the mix there as a starting receiver. Ruma Dunzee is going to be a starting receiver. They could play more 12 next year with Colson Loveland and Cole Comet being their top two tight ends. They could play a fullback more often. I just said a name that's going to be on this list a little later. We'll see. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:07:28 But I do think, you know, if he's your third whiteout, maybe, 24 and a half million a year is a lot for a number three. It doesn't make sense with his production. And you're right. That's high up on my list for sure. His tenure in Chicago has actually made me think about why Carolina seems so willing to get off him. Maybe just not as consistent a player as you want. Now, that said, incredible. productive in his first season with the Bears.
Starting point is 00:07:57 His offensive coordinator that year, Luke Getsy, now in Green Bay. His receivers coach, I want extra here just trying to project something. His receivers coach that year, Tyke Tolbert is now in Miami. They're going to be looking for some talent, potentially. His offensive coordinator in Carolina
Starting point is 00:08:15 is now the head coach of the Buffalo Bills. So maybe one and two on this list. They get traded for each other. Ben McAdoo was once his coach, too, and he's in New England. So who knows. I'm always trying to connect with the coaches. I think that's a really strong one. I'm giving myself the win in this first round.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Not that we're competing. All right, your next, go with your next pick. Okay, less exciting player, but still notable, and I think very likely to be traded, Walker Little, the tackle for the Jacksonville Jaguars, where signed by the prior regime, after like a handful of starts at left tackle, to a multi-year extension, three years,
Starting point is 00:08:48 I believe, more than $50 million. And then this year, you bring in the new Liam Cohen regime, He starts the year. Doesn't play great. He gets hurt. Colvan Lennon steps in at left tackle. Colvin Lennon plays well enough to get his own extension three years and $51 million.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Walker Lillow comes back to the lineup. Cole Van Lennon stays at left tackle. Walker Lennon moves to guard because Patrick McCarrey was hurt. In the wild car lost to the bills, Little moved back to left tackle just because Van Lennon was hurt. But everything hints to an idea that Walker Little is not the left tackle of the future for the Jacksonville Jaguars. you could kick him inside.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Maybe you'd get rid of Ezra Cleveland, but I don't think that's very likely. Macari in the second year of a deal he signed in free agency. It just feels like you have a league where we know teams are desperate for tackles, especially left tackles. Walker Little, not making a ton of money, $12 million next year. That's pretty reasonable for a potential starting left tackle. It just feels like a team like Cleveland, for example, where they have five new, or they're going to have to have five new starting linemen
Starting point is 00:09:49 or four new starting linemen at the very least next year. kind of feels like you get okay we have a you know a below average but like the 20th best left tackle in football at 12 billion dollars a year just feels like we have bigger problems if we can get that solved so I could see them getting probably a high day three pick for Walker little's contract right could he be like the the younger left tackle answer to Morgan Moses just the guy who plugs the gap for a year for 10 to 12 million and you're happy about that I love your dot connecting too in terms of the contract that that they gave out. He is guaranteed that money this year, Walker Liddle,
Starting point is 00:10:26 $11 million salary. But I think it'd be tradable. The only question would be like, yeah, is there any chance they'd even just straight cut him? But what I do think a team would get him, and then I do think I'm going to give a Jags bump to a handful of players, because I just think they're going to be a team that trades.
Starting point is 00:10:42 So I'm going to change my draft board around, and I'm just going BTJ next because I want this, that was a show to flow. Okay. I was saving him for the end. I was by juicy. Literally, the title of that section, The Juicy One, Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I have juicy ones at the end too, but to me he qualified as juicy and likely. You're right. I guess if I was strictly going in order if my life was on the line, most likely to not. Maybe he wouldn't be this high, but I do think he's pretty likely
Starting point is 00:11:10 and he is spicy. It just seems something that the Jaguars, this group would do, which is reposition, where they are, get picks. They've given away some picks so they don't have as many, or maybe even get a veteran. And here's the thing, they would get a great price for Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Because he's only entering his third year. You would have three years of control if you wanted to get Brian Thomas Jr. Because he has that fifth year option. Why did he only make the bottom of your list, I guess? Or what are your thoughts here about if and how they would do this? It feels a little like the classic. it makes so much sense to us on the outside that they won't actually consider it
Starting point is 00:11:54 on the inside move. They do need an ex-receiver. I feel like if they trade him, maybe you play Jacoby Myers as the X, but they're committed to two wide receivers and Travis Hunter and Jacoby Myers. They have Parker Washington, who every time he plays, balls out.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I don't know why they would take him out of the lineup. I think they're committed to him at this point. He'll get a contract at some point. He should. I think he's a restrictive free agent, so he'll be under contract one way or another. next season, but that's three starting whiteouts. And Brian Thomas Jr., like you
Starting point is 00:12:23 said, gets them the draft capital they lost trading up for Travis Hunter. So I just think, I've said this all offseason, it makes total sense to me. If you're the Buffalo Bills, do you not just trade your first round pick at the bottom of the first round to the Jags for Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Everybody wins. The Jaguars get the first round pick they lost for Travis Hunter. Basically almost the exact same pick. The bills get their number one receiver, a big physical force, a guy who coming off of a monster season in year one before we took a step backwards in year two, it just feels like it makes sense for both sides. Yeah, we talked a lot about their ride receiver group on our show during the year and just how Liam Cohen, who just didn't seem like Thomas was fitting the role that he wanted
Starting point is 00:13:05 and he helped them out eventually, but he kind of got the guys to fit the roles that he wanted. And like I said, it's the time to move him. And then so I thought about, okay, well, he produced as a rookie who was there as a rookie. His offensive coordinator, man by the name of Press Taylor, was just elevated to the offensive coordinator in Chicago. Now, they have a dunzee. They have Luther Burden. They have Colston Loveland, but you're not paying a lot of money for Thomas.
Starting point is 00:13:32 That would be intriguing just to see Ben Johnson just completely load up. Hell, I don't know if DJ Moore would get involved. I don't think that makes as much sense for Jacksonville. Could get involved, though. Yeah. That would be fun. Just a name. But yeah, that would be my dream New England acquisition,
Starting point is 00:13:53 even over another name who I'm sure we're going to hit. If you're the Jaguars, do you settle for an late first round pick? Do you insist on more? Do you think you can get more if you're the Jaguars organization in James Gladstone? I think you'd be happy with almost a first round pick. But I do think you would consider a potential veteran trade too, because the Jaguars are kind of in the middle of the pack in terms of money and everything. One thing that makes it seem more likely to get the pick would be, yeah, that they're short on picks
Starting point is 00:14:26 because of the Travis Hunter trade, as you mentioned. All right, let's keep it going. And Trevor Lawrence is making $55 million a year. Who? Trevor Lawrence? Yeah, right? That's a lot of money. It's funny because if he had just kept slumping, you know, like he was in the early part of the season,
Starting point is 00:14:41 he might have been on this list. Instead, he was in the finalists of the end. MVP at by the end of the year. A half a season can change a lot. And it was really half a season for BTJ that elevated him so high in his rookie year. All right, you're up next. I'll give you one more wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:14:58 A couple other players, other positions, but I'll just keep the wide receiver thing going. And Jane Brown. Yeah. That was the guy who was next on my order of likelihood. But I decided to keep the Jags thing flowing. It just feels like at this point, a lot of smoke.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Eagles have some cap situation to work with. We'll see what happens with Lane Johnson. If he retires, that offensive line might need some help. AJ Brown, definition of wearing out your welcome maybe over the course of this season. Felt like all sides involved. Maybe could have used a new start elsewhere. Just, I mean, I understood the logic in bringing him back. You'd be selling low on a dude who's still super talented and still really efficient by some of the advanced metrics out there.
Starting point is 00:15:43 there, but just kind of felt like it was time because the Eagles maybe committing some of that money to their offensive line, to their defensive line. Maybe if they want to resign Jalen Phillips, for example, kind of take some of the cash savings and put that towards, you know, resigning Jailen Phillips was excellent for them after he joined the Eagles, but Andre Brown just feels like he belongs elsewhere. I totally agree. I think all the chatter about how dramatic everything was in Philadelphia this year has only been supported by how their offseason has gone with Jeff Stoutland leaving and different things
Starting point is 00:16:16 happening. I know Howie and Siriani have made the case. Look, we're not in the business of getting rid of great players. AJ Brown's a great player. They kind of have to say that. Like, I think the obvious answer here is absolutely true. And you're right that in a way they're selling low, Bill, but I think his value would still be really high. And I think they would think about it like, maybe this is the last chance for it to be this high. He's 28 years old, turning 29. and another year where he wasn't as productive if he does really start to decline, then you're not getting a first round pick.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I kind of think you still could. Am I crazy? I think the bills are... No, he's still good. Right? Yeah, I agree. Okay. Greg, do you remember anyone who seemed crestfallen
Starting point is 00:17:01 on television when his team traded away, AJ Brown, who you can think of for a team who might need a wide receiver this off season? I can, yeah. Yeah, his former head coach. that's a good call. Mike Frable and the Patriots. I mean, it's high risk, but you got Drake May,
Starting point is 00:17:19 AJ Brown, Stefan Diggs. I've heard of worst plans for wide receiver. The trick is, like, man, the Patriots need some young players and they need to hit on their drafts. Yeah. I don't think they even hit on their last draft at all. I think it's a TBD, not just because of Will Campbell,
Starting point is 00:17:35 but even Travion and Kyle Williams, you know, like, they had a lot of picks. The draft before was awful other than Drake May, which is a big other than... I know, but everyone would... Like, I'm not giving them a lot of credit. They had a ton of picks and the rest of the picks were a fiasco. Like, Jalen Polk is not even on the team. I don't know, you know, I don't even know where he is.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Thanks. They need young players. So, look, A.J. Brown, for that trade, they got 18 and 101 for him. He might not even cost the first. He might be a high second, but yeah, I think he would. Yeah, you don't. The Diggs trade comes to mind for me, where the Texans gave up a second round pick
Starting point is 00:18:17 to the bills for Stefan Diggs. Kind of feels like that would be the ballpark I'd be thinking. And the thing to think about if you're an Eagles fan is you're right about opening up money for the different contracts that they could have coming up. Jalen Carter in a year. Or if they wanted to get ahead of it, a Jomo is going to be for agent.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Jordan Davis, like Jalen Phillips. But also it just saves future, a ton of future cash and a ton of future cap. It would be a little bit more about 2027, 28, and how he's shown that he's good at sort of thinking about those future years on the fly. So I think we agree there. Wait, that was your pick. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:53 It was. I'm swimming in the big name waters here. Yeah. I do think Kyler Murray's going to get traded. Do you agree? That was next on my list. I do. And I think like we lump Kyler and Tua together when it comes to the quarterback market.
Starting point is 00:19:09 they are such different situations. Yes. Because I don't think anybody wants Tua's contract. And I do think there are teams who would take on Kyler's contract as is and trade a draft pick to get him. Tua did not make my list, really. I wrote down some players that I essentially thought wouldn't get traded. And he was one of those guys. I've seen Dolphins fans kind of conflate these two of like that they're in the same ballpark.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And they're not at all. First of all, I think Kyler would be more attractive by a decent amount as a player, even if you took away the injury situation, but because of the contract specifically, Kyler has a much more tradable contract. He has due $36.8 million guaranteed this year, but basically nothing guaranteed after that. If the Cardinals traded him,
Starting point is 00:19:51 it would open up $35 million in cap space. They have a ton of cap space, and it won't kill them to cut him, actually, but ultimately, you know, they save more and can you just get like a late pick of someone who wants to control the process? The question I guess would be, would Kyler try to control the process too? And he could have a little bit of say in this too if for some reason, let's say the jets are involved and he tries to steer it away.
Starting point is 00:20:19 He might have a say in this too. But I do think they will find a team willing to give up a mid to late round pick for Kyler Murray at the least, which is better than nothing for the Cardinals. Who could you imagine maybe going after him? I mean, the dolphins as a replacement for Tua would seem entirely plausible to me. Moving elsewhere around the league, I don't think the Falcons would do it. I do think there's like a, I don't know if he's a great fit forward canvas defense. He wants to do, although it would be a heavy play action offense. You could see some ways to make that work.
Starting point is 00:20:53 The Raiders, we assume, are taking Mendoza, so they would be out of that conversation. Vikings? Vikings would be fun. I don't think the Browns are going to take on big money just because with the Watson situation. I think they're going to... I think they're just going to start Shadur plus a cheap option if nothing else happened.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Vikings, Steelers, Jets, dolphins. They're kind of going to be all... Steelers are the interesting one to me. Yeah? Because it feels like the McCarthy thing sort of was hinting towards Rogers coming back. Yes. I kind of expected it would be Rogers, but you never know.
Starting point is 00:21:27 This also could be one because the Cardinals have so much cap space. they could ride it out a little bit and wait until camp. He could be someone that they almost pretend they're going to keep and they're just seeing what happens because they're not in a huge rush. All right, let's keep going because I do want to get to as many names as we can. You are up next. Kyler's the big quarterback fish, though. Kyle is the big quarterback?
Starting point is 00:21:50 I'll go to a smaller quarterback, or I guess a bigger quarterback in terms of size, but smaller in terms of stature. Mac Jones. And I know there's been a lot of like, we are going to keep him. And maybe they will. Like,
Starting point is 00:22:00 it makes sense with. Brock Purdy's injury history to keep Mac Jones. I just feel like a team that has been, that is committed to Brock Purdy for multiple seasons that has been so worn down in terms of needing depth, the draft capital they've lost, in terms of the Trey Lans trade,
Starting point is 00:22:16 the Christian McCaffrey trade. If you could offer a second round pick for Mac Jones, are you really not saying no? You're really like, that's not enough for us? Like, I could feel like an, not of any Dalton trade. You would say yes. You would say yes. How about a third?
Starting point is 00:22:29 The match shop trade, maybe. How about like a future third would you do that? Like that 2027 third? No, probably not, but I think they'll get offered more. I think there's whether it's the Jets, for example. Like if you're the Jets, would you offer a two for Mac Jones? I don't think that's crazy in the slightest. I like Mac Jones a lot and I guess I would have to see how the rest of the offseason goes.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Look, I mean, me and Mac, we're boys now. You should go back and listen. I know you were very busy last week. Me and Mac Jones. I saw the video. By the end of our interview, Eric Roberts, our producer said, it sounded like I was just listening to a first date.
Starting point is 00:23:07 You guys were just broying out. So I'm a fan, but I think Mack Jones knows he has a good situation in San Francisco. To me, he only makes sense in very specific situations. Now, Minnesota is the one that would make. It's a very good one. Yes. The most sense for both sides,
Starting point is 00:23:22 where it's like, okay, I could see that. But otherwise, I don't know if a, yeah, I don't know if a team is going to give up. up anything higher than three. Would you send J.J. McCarthy back in a Mac Jones trade? I mean, that's hilarious. And who would be giving up the extra pick there is fascinating? I think the Vikings would be giving up the extra pick along with Jay-J-J-D.
Starting point is 00:23:47 See, that's crazy. How is it crazy? Because I do think if you're a top 10 pick, that you get like three years before that shine totally wears off. I still remember Josh Rosen after one of the worst seasons ever got traded for a second. That was after only one. I did, I did still have some faith on that one when the Josh Rosen trade happened. I was like, JJ for Mack's straight up though. Who says no? It's pretty interesting. I do think it's the Niners who say no. I do. And that that seems impossible, but I think it's true. I think the 49ers want to keep Mack, which is why I think it will
Starting point is 00:24:27 cost a second just because they are in the ultimate win now window and purdy hasn't been extremely durable and so it's just a great thing to have a guy that can win games off the bench for you that's fun i i love that choice uh mac jones um steelers are a team that came up in my thinking quite a bit pat friermuth we actually hit him a little bit on our last show so i won't go too long but they barely played him last year he's due 9.1 million dollars in total compensation this season He has an extremely tradable contract. And so maybe Michael McCarthy has a different vision for him. That could absolutely happen.
Starting point is 00:25:05 But Ali Connolly on our show kind of said, well, if Rogers is going back there, he didn't seem a fit with Rogers for whatever reason and actually think he would have a market. So I think he's one of those guys when I talked at the beginning of the show of like, there's some tradable contracts and there's plenty of cap space out there. And like the types of guys that maybe weren't going to get traded in the past,
Starting point is 00:25:24 he seems like one that stands out to me because he's in the middle of his prime. He's a solid player, but maybe just not a fit there anymore. Yeah. And if we do see teams lean more into 12, 13 personnel, playing more tight ends, as the Rams did and other teams did this offseason,
Starting point is 00:25:40 or during the regular season, I should say, those tight ends could be more valuable. You could say, hey, getting pet fire mooters are tight end end one slash two for that much money is not going to be a bad deal for playing him 70% of the offensive snaps. No, I think like the test for these, guys at this part of the proceedings. I mean, we might have some big names left still, but is it a contract you would happily give to the guy in free agency anyways? And Fryer Muth,
Starting point is 00:26:05 because he signed it a little bit ago, like would absolutely be, like he would absolutely get more in free agency, I think, than like $8, $9 million per year with not many guarantees. So that one makes sense to me. All right, you're up. Let's do 10 and then we'll take a break. You are the ninth trade target right now. I got, I still got a couple big names on my board Okay, okay. Actually, so do I. This is a player who has been rumored alternately to be wanting out, and alternately that he wants to stay. And that is Max Crosby, the edge rusher for the Las Vegas Raiders. This feels way more smoke to me around Max Crosby this offseason than in any point over his prior tenure. And we don't know if maybe the organization upset him by keeping him out late in the year, if they blame that on Pete Carroll, maybe Clint Cubiac will. get there and say, hey, we want you here. But, like, in terms of what makes sense for the organization, grading Max Crosby makes sense.
Starting point is 00:27:01 It is an incredibly logical thing to do, especially given if they could still probably get something significant for him, maybe not what they would have a year ago, or even at the trade deadline. But if Max Crosby wants out, you would assume the Raiders eventually will accommodate that request. Okay. Just to play the other side,
Starting point is 00:27:20 why, when you have no good players, does it, why is it smart to trade your good player? Because you're not, they're not going to win with Max Crosby. So it's better off. They don't know that. I think they probably think that they can win next season, let's say 2027. And in theory, he'd be 31 there. You can still be a pretty effective edge rusher there.
Starting point is 00:27:44 They did structure his contract in a way when they gave him that extra money last year that it is pain free. Like he is pure savings trading. him now. And because he's so unhappy, you probably are going to have to give him more money guaranteed to keep him if you want to keep him. So I tend to agree that it makes sense to trade him.
Starting point is 00:28:03 But I also think they think about the ultimate raider of it all and that these fans are pretty beaten down right now. And he's kind of all they have. But they're going to get a quarterback with the first overall pick who's going to be the focus of that organization. And there is like a, at this tier, Or we're talking about like Kyler Murray, the most important person on an organization. That's not a coaching decision.
Starting point is 00:28:27 It's not a Monta-Austin-Fort decision. That's a ownership decision. That is ownership deciding we are out of the Kyler-Merry business. I think if Max Crosby goes to Mark Davis and says, listen, I've been beaten up too much, we're losing. We're not close to winning. I'm sick of it. I want to get traded. Mark Davis would do that because he feels like Max Crosby has been a good soldier for a long enough time.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Okay. I like that. No, he probably should have come higher because Jay Glazer. reported he wants out and if he makes it very difficult for the Raiders, then they might have no choice and they would have a good market. What do you think? What do you think he'd cost? I think at least a two. I don't know if they get a first-arm pick given his age. It would be, well, the problem is the Quinn and Williams trade, probably threw off a lot of trade values around the league. Like, I think the Raiders would ask for at least what the Cowboys sent for Quinn and Williams, and that's probably
Starting point is 00:29:17 not going to happen. But it really depends on who's often the trade. I think you could get like a 20-20 first than a 26 second or something? I don't think that's that crazy. One and a two? Wow. I don't think Quintin Williams is going to get that much and I was wrong. So I don't think you could rule it out. But if you're the lions,
Starting point is 00:29:36 who I've pitched over and over again as a max trotty destination, would you be willing to make that kind of trade for that second antrusher next to Aidan Hutchinson? I think I would. Although the money gets complicated for the lion specifically. That's a crazy amount to be paying up. the edge. I'll go to a more simple one. The cult seemed done with Anthony Richardson. I think someone will try. Wow. I have a different cult. That's my number 10 player.
Starting point is 00:30:02 But please. You take on a little dead money, but you save money versus the cap. It's, you know, you're going into the last year eventually of his rookie deal unless you wanted to, you know, put the fifth year option, which they're obviously not going to do. And I do think someone will give him a shot. Right? Like just as a... That's part of it. It'll be like the Matt Lafleur like project to back up for a love or something like that.
Starting point is 00:30:30 This is why I asked the question because you're going to name a team and I'm going to get excited. I will say, remember that famous Kevin O'Connell, Anthony Richardson, mid-season meeting. Hey, you're going to be a great player in this league. Little did we know at the time. Maybe that would be for the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah, that would be amazing. I heard someone who's usually like, doesn't just say things to be like, I don't know about Richardson. Like, he might just be done.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And I was like, what do you mean done? I'm just like, eh, done. And then I watched some interviews with Richardson after the season. And he was ready to play. He was talking about how he wanted to stay in Indianapolis because he likes the people there. And he's excited for the 20, 20, 2016. So I was like, what does that mean done? Because he's definitely going to get other chances.
Starting point is 00:31:17 He's 23 years old. And so they were implying something that I haven't seen reported anywhere. And so I don't know why I even said it. But I think he'll have to change. I thought that you brought this person up just to trash what they were going to. They told you. Well, just as sticking in my head, maybe I shouldn't put him as high on the list. But what a tease you gave.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Of it all. Yeah. What a tease you gave that you have another cult coming up on the list. Let's take a break. And we're going to come back with the rest of our most intriguing trade targets list of 2026. This month, IHeart Radio is celebrating the stars of the
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Starting point is 00:33:06 They were saying the whole Super Bowl week was a preamble to the real big ticket here. I'm really getting myself in trouble. Let's pivot to Anthony Richardson. We just talked about him and you said you had another colt, but I cut you off before you had a spicy potential Richardson landing spot. Would you not be so enthralled, Greg? would the streetwalkers of Indianapolis and San Francisco not be so enthralled with Anthony Richardson, Kansas City Chief?
Starting point is 00:33:35 Would that not be fun? That would be incredible. George Orange quarterback for a team that is probably not going to have Cream Hunt back and doesn't want to run their quarterback on sneaks. Red zone option. Potential short-term Mahomes replacement early in the year. You get to build them up. I know he's going to be not under contract, but you could sign them to a reasonable extension where maybe you build up his trade. value.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Okay. Andy Reid, best quarterback coach of his generation. Would you not be excited for like four chiefs, Anthony Richardson starts
Starting point is 00:34:06 to begin the year before my homes comes back and takes over at quarterback? I'd be incredibly excited. I think Andy Reid
Starting point is 00:34:11 would be too. The whole news that Gardner Mincho doesn't actually have a torn ACL was weird. Oh, Greg. Chris Ballard,
Starting point is 00:34:19 Coach GM. Where was he before? Hey. I like this. He was in Kansas City. Yeah. I could see that.
Starting point is 00:34:27 When I say Streetwalker, I just mean like, you've seen those John Gruden videos where he keeps bumping into people. That was my week. We walked by Kyron Williams during the week. You would just see all sorts of
Starting point is 00:34:38 just faces of like former NFL players and media members. They were just everywhere. The streetwalkers. I was not watching the John Gruden videos. I have to admit. You shouldn't. Please, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Please, we got to pick up the pace here. I want to get to your 35 players. We're not going to get to all. All 35. We're going to get to a bunch of them. But Colts player, Michael Pittman, a wide receiver, not a quarterback. Michael Pittman's still a good player, but Alec Pierce is about to be a free agent. Michael Pittman entering the final year of his deal, $24 million, unguaranteed, still a good player, but if you're the Colts and you're picking between Pittman and Pierce, Pierce is younger,
Starting point is 00:35:16 he is harder to find in terms of his skill set with his speed, ascending perhaps for his Pippin more on the descending side. Tyler Warren maybe can take some of the Pittman stuff in terms of the more physical route running, middle of the field stuff. It does feel like maybe it could be like a, we're picking one of these two guys and we'd rather pick Pierce at the same price range versus Pittman, especially if you can get a pick for Michael Pittman, maybe in return for that one year deal. Love it was one of the last players I had written down to in terms of my like, actually
Starting point is 00:35:45 I think there's a realistic chance it happens. He was on our show last week. He brought up unprompted that he's. not sure what the Colts are going to do with him. I was like, I didn't even ask bro. And by that, I think he meant trade, cut, extend. Either way, he's entering the, or just keep, he's entering the last year of his deal. He's still a pretty young player.
Starting point is 00:36:06 They gave him that contract early. So I think if you're trading for him, you're not feeling like he's descending. But I think it makes sense because it's all savings to trade him. They have about $35 million in cap space, which is plenty, but they have about as much to do this offseason as almost any team. including paying a quarterback. So I could see that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah. Who else you got, Craig? I'm going to go, Cave on Tibido. Not spicy, but last year of his contract, fifth year option, $14.5 million. Should I just do a double header here
Starting point is 00:36:41 because I think it's a conversation together? I don't know if you wrote down Dexter Lawrence or not. I mean, Dexter Lawrence is, I think, more unique of a player They don't have like a light for like Dexter Lawrence replacement. It just does feel like he, you know, if you were presenting him as the best run,
Starting point is 00:36:58 plugging, nose tackle in football, that's what Giants fans thought he was heading into last season. Back that they were the worst run defense in football. And I don't recall it being particularly close. I'm not blaming that on Dexter Lawrence, but he was not able to overcome that. I just think, Thibito has, like, they're more likely to have easy replacement for him in terms of a larger Abdul-Carter role on the edge in year two. Right. And, you know, Kvon Tibido to review, top 10 pick, been solid.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Like, he's going to get a decent second contract. It's probably just not from the Giants. You know, maybe hasn't lived up to the draft status, but should be starting or close to it in the NFL. And they can save a lot. And it just makes sense. Dexter Lawrence is one of those names when I'm just going through the highest paid players at each position list.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I was like, ooh, this is a good one. This could be my tunie. This is my tunie, baby. And here's the case. 29 years old. He's quote unquote, only due 18. $1.5 million on his contract this year, which I think is a tradable contract. No guaranteed money involved.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Did not play great last year. It was coming off a really serious injury. And I don't think he was quite the same player. But you're kind of banking on, okay, one more year removed from the surgery and just did not seem happy there. And I know nobody was happy with the Giants, but that's why I'm doing the double. I just think maybe Joe Shane, you actually get something saucy for Dexter Lawrence where maybe you wouldn't for Kavon Tibido.
Starting point is 00:38:22 I'm playing my flag. That's my Tooney. That's your tuning. Okay. I'm not at Tuny time yet. But I do have another Giants player. I just mean like a big name player. I don't think he's been being talked about as a potential trade target.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Maybe he is. It's a good one. I just think he's one that logically makes a little sense for me. All right, you're up. I just took two spots. You could go two if you want. I'm going to give you nine. I'm going to give you nine players who all fit into the same
Starting point is 00:38:50 group for me. Dude, nine, is that allowed? Oh, I thought you were going to give me nine J.J. McCarthy, but I don't know if I'm allowing this, but I'll, I'll listen to the case and see what I'm. I'm trying to get as many names in the pod as possible. That's my case. Okay. And all these guys are in the same group where probably not likely any of them get traded in terms of each individual one, but I wouldn't be shocked if two or three got traded. This is the fresh start club. Okay. And a lot of them are going to be. This might be separate on the, on the graphic. We have a separate Little Fresh Start Club. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Okay. Fresh Start Club includes Deonté Banks, former first draft pick and cornerback for the Giants, who has been buried on the deck chart and struggled. Kalei Ringo, the Eagles cornerback, who has been alternately disappointing
Starting point is 00:39:33 and not playing very much. Nate Hobbs, the one non-rookie contract either who signed with the Packers last year was very disappointing for them. Might be a cut candidate, but could get traded. David Liggett,
Starting point is 00:39:45 Panthers first round pick, now their wide receiver three. Isaac Garendo, looked pretty promising. late in the year for the niners in year one, barely played, didn't even play at all, I think, on offense in year two. Jackson Powers Johnson. The college center who the Raiders don't think to play center, who moved to guard,
Starting point is 00:40:02 got hurt, got out of favor, could be an opportunity there for him to move on. Roman Wilson, Steelers, wide receiver, who has 12 catches in two seasons. That's not limited to expectations there when everybody thinks the Steelers have a 100% hit rate on day two wide receivers. He has been an exception to that rule. Caleb Johnson, who was one of the. more highly drafted running backs in last year's class barely played his first reason. Mike Tomlin lost all faith in him.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I don't know if Mike McCarthy is going to find more faith in him. I think that coaching change helps. But Caleb Johnson, and then BJ O'Jolari, the Cardinals, Eddrush, who I don't think is a free agent, but I should double check. But buried on the debt chart there. Believe he has one year left on his contract, if I'm not mistaken. I'll double check it as we record this. But just feels like a guy who maybe could find a fresh start elsewhere, had some success
Starting point is 00:40:46 earlier in his career. He's entering the final year of his rookie deal, Greg. We crammed nine guys, if I can count correctly, into the 14th pick there. This is a crazy thing that you just did. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I think it's giving value to listeners. I don't know if they count as hits. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:41:04 If I was your editor or your host in this case. You have been in the past. I would take out, that's right, for the Rota World Fantasy Football magazine of like 2020. I mean 2010. I would have taken JPJ, Jackson Powers Johnson, out of this, put it into the main group, because I think that's spicy, he was a pretty high pick that I think a lot of teams would be intrigued by. He is relatively a name, and I think it could happen. The rest of these guys are probably, some of them are more likely to get cut than traded.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I mean, Isaac Gorendo, I would just be like, sorry, that's not high enough octane to make this list. Wow. Banks, I think, is getting cut, mate, you know, if they can't trade them. But you're right. It's a same with Roman Wilson. You're right. It could be something where you get like a late round pick. And so I like Bill's nine-player fresh star club.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I'm taking Powers Johnson because I think that's a good one. Okay. I'm taking that out on the graphic. I'm taking them out and I'm putting them in the regular graphic and we're going to make the Fresh Star Club. But I like that because these are different players to think about that are smart. Nahab is a good one that I would not have thought of. I'm still going for some big names that are just,
Starting point is 00:42:22 this is just guesswork. Dron Payne, the commanders, have a lot of space. He is a really good player, so it probably isn't going to happen. But $16.7 million in savings, only $4 million guaranteed, only 29 years old. It's essentially a one-year deal.
Starting point is 00:42:40 The reason I don't think it's likely is the commanders are bad at football and he's good at football and they don't really need the space but he's kind of an old regime guy and I just thought like when I saw a guy with that eye of a price that just kind of cleanly comes off
Starting point is 00:42:57 I think they're going to be a team like the Jags that we've mentioned that just going to be in the mix. Wouldn't surprise me if the commanders are pretty active in in trades and he was kind of the guy from their team that stood out to me. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:11 Dresland is there as like their third. defensive tackle. They could expand his role. They can go out and get another Niners player, which has been Adam Peters kind of default over the past couple years. But it makes sense to me. I have a different NFC East defensive tackle on my list. We already named two. In Dexter Lawrence, we named Dron Payne. I'll go Kenny Clark, the Cowboys defensive tackle. Because I don't know if you notice, correct. They have a lot suddenly at defensive tackle. They have Osso O'Digizua making a lot of Quinn and Williams, who they traded a massive amount for, is going to get a significant extension, I would assume, from the Cowboys in the near future.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Kenny Clark, his contract was very cheap last year, not going to be very cheap, if I'm not mistaken, this year. And for a guy who's going to be maybe third in your defensive tackle rotation, is there a better use of those resources if you're the Cowboys? I know they wanted him as part of the trade, but he gets, is it 20? Trying to the math by hand here. I believe it's over $20 million next year for Kenny Clark where he's going to be a rotation defensive tackle for you
Starting point is 00:44:16 just seems like maybe they could use that money elsewhere. 31 years old, I thought about him and I thought he also could be a candidate to just be straight out cut because it would be pure savings, 21.5 million dollars whether they trade or cut him. The reason why I think I didn't write him down in the end was I was like, I just don't think Jerry's going to want to take that
Starting point is 00:44:39 Like all that they just talked about how much Kenny Clark is going to help their run defense and they love Kenny Clark and And he's such a big part of this Quinn and Williams trade and I just feel like it's a human nature thing is they don't want to take that out But I actually do think you're right. I think it makes a lot of sense and would a team trade something for Kenny Clark for that Salary? Yeah, probably. I think you're right. A six four seven maybe they give him a new contract where he makes less but he has another guaranteed year after the season. Maybe they do that. I mean, I think they could see it. No, that's a good one. With my next trade candidate, I think it's time for delivering results presented by Uber Eats when football makes you hungry. Order Uber Eats.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I'm actually surprised it's taking this long for me to get to Tanner McKee or you. The quarterback of the Eagles, you laugh. What about Tanner McKee makes you laugh? Come on. I mean, it's a good one. It wasn't on my list, but now that I think about it, I can see. Are teams, I feel like the internet loves Tanner, Key. Do you think teams love Tanner McKee?
Starting point is 00:45:41 I am the internet. We are representing the internet. Okay. I think there's probably a, you know, I'm trying to think of who around the league has been with him, you know, could they consider him in Indianapolis? Probably not because that's just going to be Daniel Jones. And I think Riley Leonard, it would kind of play the role that McKee, in theory, could be, which would be like the guy who gets us by until Daniel Jones is ready. Didn't Kevin Petulow just get hired? in Miami?
Starting point is 00:46:10 Miami, Tanner McKee, that would be fun. What a weird staff that is in Miami now that I'm putting it together in general. Big, tall,
Starting point is 00:46:21 a little more athletic than you think, I think fits in the system. Our friends at the PHLY show actually did a thought exercise and I thought about this too. I mean, is there a world where the Eagles
Starting point is 00:46:32 considered trading Jalen Hertz and keeping Tanner McKee? That's what I was going to ask you. I think if the contract was a little more forgivable, and I think then it wouldn't be as crazy, but the Eagles would take on so much dead money. I know they did that with Carson Wentz,
Starting point is 00:46:51 but it just doesn't feel necessary. It would all be about 2027 if they decided to do that. And can they find a team that's actually going to give a couple high picks for Hertz? Yeah, probably. But even that I'm not too sure about. So I kind of ruled against it in my own head. But shout out to our producers, Eric Roberts and Chris Bobona,
Starting point is 00:47:15 who had the Tanner McKee tape ready. He looked awesome in the preseason in general bill and looked great in the regular season last year, or 2024, but not as good when he played in 2025. Okay, dolphins call you. I assume Kevin Batula gives them Howie's number. They call you and say, we want to trade for Tanner McKee. What if you're Howie Roseman, are you in?
Starting point is 00:47:37 insisting on if you're going to let Tanner McKee go out the door. Third? Three. Dolphins are going to pick relatively high. I would assume third would make sense. Maybe you want like a comp pick or a, sorry, conditional pick. If he plays, you know, starts 13 years. Yeah, get a conditional second.
Starting point is 00:47:54 They once got a second for AJ Feely, just to use some EJ. Just to use some Eagles history. I mean, they're not that different. But you're right. I don't know if the rest of the league likes McKee as much. I do know people really do believe in Tanner McKee in that building and maybe elsewhere. So I think he might be like a pretty compelling Arizona landing spot of just like, let's just take a swing with like a fourth round pick that converts to a third or something.
Starting point is 00:48:22 So he's somewhat I'm intrigued by. That was delivery and results presented by Uber Eats. When football makes you hungry, get game day deals on Uber Eats, the official on-demand delivery partner of the NFL order now. I've only got a couple more on my like, I think it's realistic list. And then I have a long, like, these are just fun names to think about list. But why don't you go? Well, why don't give you one more realistic one and then we'll get to the fun ones.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Okay. Quentin Johnston is my last realistic one. I like that. Where regime inherited him from the prior guys. He's been okay. Obviously, has had moments of real effectiveness. Has a moments where he's been very frustrating. I still think his best role is on the slot.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I think he's better as a power slot than he is as an outside guy. That role with Glad McConkey and Keenan Allen there last year for the Chargers was occupied. Arronday Gadsden took a lot of his usage. Like before Ronde Gadsden got to the lineup, Quentin was playing really well. Once Gadsden was on the field, and I think he's going to be on the field for years to come, Quinn and Johnston's role really diminished. He was more just a strictly downfield guy. 17.5 million-fifty are option coming due in 27.
Starting point is 00:49:30 The Chargers have to decide on this year. That's after they're going to pay McConkey, Justin Herbert. already getting a lot of money. It just feels like there's a benefit for him elsewhere. I think there's teams who would benefit from him on like a two-year deal in the $20, I think $22 million range, not very expensive.
Starting point is 00:49:45 And the Chargers could probably still get like a three or a four for me for Quentin Johnston. So I think there's upside there. I think you can even get a two potentially. I did not think of him. That's why it's good to have these ideas bouncing off each other. I think if you're too into Chargers media,
Starting point is 00:50:01 which I am, you know how much Jim Harbaugh loves Quentin Johnson. Although he loves everyone. He just loves football players. Yeah. This almost hits me a little bit like the toony one, where now that you put the case together, from the outside looking at,
Starting point is 00:50:15 there is a logical sense to it. He's not my tuning. No, it doesn't make sense, you know, because to me, I think you're in this window. You like Quentin Johnson. You have them under control for two more years. It would surprise me. But at this point in the list,
Starting point is 00:50:28 they almost all would surprise me a little. I'm going to group my last. three that I think are realistic together. So I'm cheating like you did once. Because they're all tight ends. You drafted two guys with the same pick right before me. Yeah, I cheated too. You're not trying to be not cheating.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Colt, Dosson, Knox, and T.J. Hawkinson. And it's funny because I already mentioned Friamuth. So that is four tight ends total that all have these tradeable contracts that all don't make a ton of sense. Just going through them quickly. Commet is due about $10 million guaranteed. He's the clear tight end, too. They could use the room, the Bears. Although I think they could use Cole Commet, too.
Starting point is 00:51:09 So that's not a must trade. Dawson Knox, they could save $10 million cutting or trading him. He's 30 years old. The contract's fine, but man, a team like the Saints that would love a tight end. I think they would absolutely give up something for Dawson. I can really see that one happening. And then T.J. Hawkinson, you'd save about $9 million a little less.
Starting point is 00:51:29 same as cutting him. You would take on some dead money. He's one where, I don't know if I'm that excited about paying $15.4 million to T.J. Hawkinson, whether I'm the Vikings or another team. So he's just someone I've kind of got my eye on and I'm throwing him into my tight end pack.
Starting point is 00:51:48 It's been tough post-A-L-Tare. I don't think he's been the same guy. He might be more likely to get traded than cut type of guy. I mean, more likely to get cut than traded. Sorry about that. I feel like they're in. that discussion. So I do think that
Starting point is 00:52:02 Hawkinson of those three seems most likely to not be on his roster next year. But that seems 50-50 cut or trade for me. Between the tight-end
Starting point is 00:52:11 free agents, which we hit on our last show and then these guys, I feel like 50% of the tight ends ranked eighth to 17th in the NFL are going to move this off-seat.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Like there's a lot of like pretty good tight ends available if you need one this off-season a lot of teams. Big tight-end shuffle. Okay. Now we're getting
Starting point is 00:52:29 into the fun ones. Let's do it. Rashi Rice. Oh, well, that's not as fun just because of the off-field stuff, but it does sound realistic. Rashi Rice, on my list of fun ones, Trent McDuffie. Yes. Okay. Let's stop there with the chiefs. Okay. Do you have another chief, though? Oh, no, those are my two remaining chiefs. Okay. I think McDuffie is a sneaky good one. I think we should, yeah, we should put McDuffie just on the list here. I don't think Rishie. I don't think Rishie. Rice because of the off-field stuff is tradeable. I could be wrong. I wonder if they're just, we're done, we're trading them for whatever we can get,
Starting point is 00:53:07 washing our hands. Yeah. If they wanted to trade McDuffie, it'd be kind of like the Legerius Snead deal. Right. That's sort of why, and go back to Marcus Peters, who they traded at this point when he was on his rookie deal. They have not been, they're very comfortable drafting cornerbacks, and they're very comfortable trading cornerbacks and getting value at the end of their contracts.
Starting point is 00:53:27 This one I don't want to officially put on the list, but I'm just thrown out. It's my section of players. We'll get to a little later, which wouldn't shock me, but I couldn't quite get there. Chris Jones. The problem is I don't think there'd be a market for him.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Because he's guaranteed $35 million this year. You would save $15.6, but does anyone want to pay Chris Jones $35 million this year? He's just someone to think about it, I thought. I just feel like he's worth more to the chiefs than any else. That's why I'm not going to write him down. McDuffie gets the full treatment, Eric, on the list. I'm going to go for, I have two really spicy ones.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Okay. Number one, Christian Gonzalez. I'm going to be so bad. Of the, of the really spicy ones. What? Okay. You got, sell me on this one. Come on. Is he a Vrabel guy?
Starting point is 00:54:14 There was a lot of whispers when he wasn't coming back from that hamstring injury. And he wants the contract. Will the Pats want to pay him Stingley-Sertan money? Because that's what he deserves here. probably he's so good he's so good i would hate it is there is there any chance that they see all their needs that they have or even see like an a j brown or whoever you know would be like a brian thomas you know whoever does and they think about we don't want to pay him patrick sartan money it's just a little vibe which i could be wrong about that just maybe this regime doesn't love him
Starting point is 00:54:59 quite as much as the rest of the world does. I would be very surprised. I think about the Rams, trading two first-round picks with Jalen Ramsey after three years of his rookie deal. Would you make that deal if you're the Rams and you have a huge needed cornerback? Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I think Christian Gonzalez is worth the move. Christian Gonzalez did say, like, look, I want to be back. This is where I want to be. Of course he's going to say that. I'm sure it's true, too. I just, and I do hope the Patriots, who have plenty of cap space,
Starting point is 00:55:33 just give him that contract. And it could be something where it just, it just strings out and he doesn't get the deal or it goes all the way into training camp and he holds out or they have the franchise tag that they kind of hold over him into next year. Just, it just wouldn't, it wouldn't totally shock me.
Starting point is 00:55:52 So I thought that was a fun one of, I have two like blockbusters that would just not like totally stun me. I'll put their, Patriots fans are going to be mad if we just put this guy on the list, but I think I'm going to do it. All right. What do you got? I would be surprised, but not impossible.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I'm going to save my toony for my final pick. Okay. This is my next two last pick here. The problem is you don't know what the tuny is until it happens. You didn't know that you called tuning until it happened. I'm saying a player, a player nobody is talking about being traded where I could see a strong case for him being traded. But you've had a couple of those. If you got, you know, you threw out McDuffie there, or maybe I did, you had Quentin Johnson. That could have counted as your toony. But okay, I hear you.
Starting point is 00:56:37 That's throughout the other names. I'm designating a tunie here. This one's kind of tough, but it is one of the Steelers as rushers. So, Alex Highsmith, Nick Herbig, T.J. Watt, in that order. I love it. And that in Herbig and Highsmith specifically, were on my, like, longer list. The big board. My question would be just why. I agree it seems possible, but I don't think they should do it. And so my question would be why.
Starting point is 00:57:10 But there is talk about it. If you say need a Tanner McKee and you knew someone who obsesses over edge rushing talent, would you not call the Eagles and say, hey, look, Nick Herbig, Tanner McKee, two guys in rookie deals. You get a cost, controlled player for another year who had phenomenal pass rushing numbers.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And we get our quarterback of the future. We have Aaron Rogers under center. Does that not seem like a scratch my back? I scratcher a situation. It's a great question. Would you rather have, I mean, I'd rather just have Nick Kerrig. It's a burden in the hand. And you are going to have to give him a big contract sooner than later, right?
Starting point is 00:57:52 How many more years does you have on a deal? Final year of his deal. Yeah. And, you know, one of the cheapest. like most underpaid players in the league and just a pure great pass rusher. It just seems like a guy they should be signing long term. The problem is T.J. Watt is due $32 million guaranteed the next two seasons. And to me, that contract is borderline untradable.
Starting point is 00:58:11 They would never do it anyways. So it's, I don't think the, I don't think that's going to match up. I'm, I'm considering that T.J. Watt is not going anywhere. And so that leaves you with Highsmith, which is like, yeah, you could get a good return for him. And then you pay Herbig and you get something. for Highsmith? Sure. But I also think, like, why? Highsmith's great and his contract's pretty good, too. Like, I think he, they got him at a nice number and he's in the middle of his prime. They do have plenty of
Starting point is 00:58:39 cap space. So that makes it less likely. But I do, I do see where you're, where you're going here. This is not about the savings as much as it's just getting pieces that you need that you don't have access to. That's why I feel like McKee would make sense as a potential Herbert training alternative. That is really fun. I mean, You know who is definitely doing that? The Eagles. I mean, do you have to give up McKee Plus to get a Herbig? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:07 He's a quarterback. He's a quarterback, and you need those. They would be thrilled for that trade. All right, I'm going with my other total wild card along those same lines. Uh-oh. Would the Eagles ever consider Jalen Carter? I doubt it. But coming off of a season where he's kind of been a hit or miss player,
Starting point is 00:59:30 they're going to have to pay him so much money. Do they ever think about getting a year ahead of things and get the mother load for Jalen Carter? Obviously, I don't think that's particularly likely. But Howie Roseman's a crazy guy. And Jalen Carter is like, man, you call up, forget, you were talking about Andy Reed before. I mean, call up your old friend, Andy Reed.
Starting point is 00:59:55 you could have your next Chris Jones here. You would get the mother load and it would allow Philadelphia to start paying everyone else. Don't think it's really likely. But I just thought Gonzalez and him were these fun sort of big time swings that a GM and more importantly, me you could make.
Starting point is 01:00:13 It feels like you would need to get a defensive lineman back. I think if you're Howard Roseman, you have to get like a young piece who's going to make a difference now back. And that I think is the tough part of making this trade. Like you could call them. Rams and say, hey, we want Kobe Turner back as part of this trade. But like, at what point do you just be like, hey, we already have this guy we think
Starting point is 01:00:33 is really good. Why not keep him? Yeah. On some level, it would be a little bit of a bet against Jalen Carter based on... Which is not defensive, not indefensible. Right. Based on how his career has gone so far, I think the risk of that and why I don't think they would do is like, look, these defensive tackles, they develop more slowly.
Starting point is 01:00:54 and obviously he has shown the ability to totally take over games. And so this has been like the pre-prime Jalen Carter. Imagine what the prime Jalen Carter is going to be. It's kind of great. I want a different category for those two guys because I'm going to get killed that we're putting them on our list, Gonzales and Carter. A little separate category, Eric, that's like, you know, wild cards.
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Starting point is 01:01:52 Okay. Time has come, Greg. Time for the Tooney. The 2026 player, nobody is talking about as a trade candidate. who I would not be shocked moves on this off-season. Broncos cornerback, Riley Moss. Oh, wow. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Not the most exciting name. I understand the Junie wasn't. I thought for a second you were about to talk about the best cornerback in the league. I was like, whoa, Bill. No, I mean, that would be wild, but I don't think that is likely. But they drafted Jay Barron in the first round last year. Didn't get a ton of playing time. Jaquah McBillan is excellent in the slot.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I think they keep Nick Bill in the slot, signed him to an extension. Riley Moss entering the final year of his deal, a good player, but an easy scapegoat for the Broncos. They could keep him, keep barren as their backup, as their number four quarterback, basically, and then put him in the lineup next year. But that is a team that still, you know, has some draft capital downstream missing from all the Russell Wilson, the Sean Payton trades. They could add more depth to other parts of their roster. They could try to get a receiver. Riley Moss is a good player.
Starting point is 01:03:01 They're not going to sign him, I would assume, as a first. free agent. They could sign him, I guess, and move Baron into the slot. We launched McMillan, who's an RFA. But I just think that they seem to signal they're not going to be in the Riley Moss business for the long term by drafting Barron. And so I think trading Moss would make sense. Now, did you consider, you know, you got a lot of pop for the Tune call, potentially he's a future Hall of Famer. He ends up winning protector of the year. He'll always be the first ever protector of the year. A household name, if you're into football. Maybe not if you're really into football.
Starting point is 01:03:36 More than Riley Moss. Did you consider Riley Moss not enough pop for this spot? Yeah. Riley Moss is on television more often than any other cornerback in football because they're constantly throwing at him. And typically, he's chasing down another receiver. So you see the back of his jersey quite often. So I do think Riley Moss is more of a household name than Joe Tuny, but I'm willing to be
Starting point is 01:04:00 sold up. And a pioneer. I mean, and he does get. got talked about a lot. Like, you know, Beaumani Jones has always talk about Riley Moss, Nate Tice.
Starting point is 01:04:07 We talk about him a lot. Our friend Dominique Foxworth talking about him a lot. I think he's been an underrated NFL player. I think that's fair to say. I don't know if he have a monster trade market.
Starting point is 01:04:17 So the only thing you got to be is right here, Bill, but if it's for, like a future force, a conditional third, like that's not a lot of pop. That's,
Starting point is 01:04:29 I don't know what he's going to cost. Tudy was a, a fourth round pick, no? That's right. I'm saying what is Riley Moss getting traded for? I don't know if it's that much higher than a... I would assume like a high day three pick. And that seems reasonable enough to me.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I would never doubt the man, the myth, the legend, Bill Barnwell. That was who he was saving all this time. I do have two more guys... Honestly, I was saving BTJ and you took him in the top eight. You can claim that too. even though you told me let's do it in order of most likely to be traded
Starting point is 01:05:03 to least likely to be traded and then you know with Brian Thomas playing mind games I thought I honestly think BTJ is pretty high up on the list maybe you're right I pushed them up because it sounded fun it's fun no question
Starting point is 01:05:16 it just feel that's more of a gut feel logically there's other guys that seem more logical I just have a gut feeling that like he's getting traded so I'm sticking with that I have two more guys that I think are going to be the final two on our on our, we'll separate, this is your tunie, but it's a teammate of Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 01:05:34 If they traded Trayvon Walker, it'd be $15 million in savings. That's more likely an extension. I don't think it's going to happen because I think they love Trayvon Walker, but you never know if they just felt like they can't get that deal done. I think there'd be a good market for him.
Starting point is 01:05:48 I find him interesting. And then Jesse Bates was the other name that, is another team giving up a big thing for Jesse Bates right now? Would the Falcons even want to do that? Why would they want to? He's 29 years old. He's due $13 million in salary.
Starting point is 01:06:03 They're in the middle. They're a cap space. But he's entering the final year of his contract. He was someone I thought, I could see like a Rams or a team that just wants a calm hand in the secondary. Do they, I could see that. I tried to look for new regimes. The problem is, Bill, and this supports the idea that there'll be a lot of trades. Everyone's a new regime right now.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Like, half the league is different. Those are my final, too. I like them. We got the 28 plus 8 from the Fresh Start Club. Do you have any? Because I'm pushing against your time here. But we've got a little bit of time before you got to pick up. I do a few more.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Your lovely child. No, that's it for our main list. Do you want to just rapid fire throw out anything that guys you left off that you find interesting that maybe they're more cuts? Maybe you just don't think it makes sense. Legerious need. Okay. He'll get cut. He'll get cut.
Starting point is 01:06:59 You're not going to get cut. I would assume he'll get cut. Maybe the chiefs trade a seventh arm pick for him and he takes a pay cut. Terrell Bernard with the bills, who's due $9.7 million next year. Jalen Waddle, who I don't think is likely to be traded, but you would certainly figure is going to be, there'll be teams calling about Jail and Waddle. Dan Moore, who was kind of a massive Tennessee, maybe an ill-fated contract, but there are a lot of teams. He's staying, but that's a cut.
Starting point is 01:07:26 his contract, it should be cut, but his contract is guaranteed. I wonder if they'll, you know, Tennessee will try to move on from him. Jerry Judy, who I realized is the modern day Kenny Britt, where he puts up like, okay to good numbers exclusively on bad football teams. That's not who you want to be. I looked at him and then I just thought the contract was untradable. There's so much guaranteed money that I was like, I think that would require them needing to throw in as a salary dump, someone else taking on his money. So I guess that's possible,
Starting point is 01:08:00 but that's unfortunate for them. I've got one more. Okay. And it's in your honor that I'm finishing up with this man. And you will have to eat, Raiders will have to eat some of the money to get this done, are pal Gino Smith. That's a funny one. Probably untradable on the contract he has, but you never know. You never know. 18 million guaranteed next year. If the Raiders eat 10 million and Gino, the rest of the unguaranteed money comes off and you can get Gino for one year and $8 million. Would you not be interested? I would be interested.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Would the Vikings or the Steelers be interested in all that? Again, I think it's going to be Rogers to the Steelers. But it's probably not going to be the Jets either. The Jalphins? I don't think it's crazy. The problem with that scenario, I guess why I didn't list them, was I think that takes a team really wanting. that.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Like, that's a lot of hoops to jump through. And so it just seems like he's more likely to just get straight cut. And then a team who would like to give him $8 million is just, okay, then we think about them then. Yeah. But I would be that team if I was running a team. Teams don't always act rationally when it comes to quarterbacks, Kirk. You know that.
Starting point is 01:09:09 No, and I think he's a better option than some out there. There's not enough quarterbacks to fill the amount of reps that will be out there. Some names that didn't make it for me that are just interesting. Roshan Gary is due $18 million. I think he's more likely to get cut the Eddresher for the Packers. Calvin Ridley is somehow 32 years old right now. You would save a little more if you're the Titans
Starting point is 01:09:33 by trading him than cutting him, $16 million versus $13 million. I think he would be very tough to deal. He's due about $22 million this year. I think he's a pretty likely cut candidate. AJ Terrell and Denzo Ward and Vita Vaya were all like future free agents that landed on my like, but why?
Starting point is 01:09:52 Why would you do that? I don't think a team that has them would trade them. But it just, they wouldn't be like the most stunning person in the world. Jacoby Brissette is very tradable. But would the lions really want to trade for him as a backup to go with Drew Petzik? He's only due $4 million this year. But I think the Cardinals are really happy to have. Cardinals need him.
Starting point is 01:10:11 He started a quarterback. Bradley Chubb, more likely to get cut. We mentioned Watt. Will Levis made our list last year. I mean, who knows? Does someone want to give up a sixth and seventh swat? swap for Will Levis? Probably not.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Teaming Will Levis and J.J. McCarthy would be my dream quarterback room. And yeah, I mentioned Gino here too. Kirk Cousins probably is a straight cut. Spencer Rattler, but I, you know, I think the Saints will just hold on to him. I don't think Clint Kubiak's sending away draft compensation to be reunited with him necessarily. And then we talked about Tua, who's untradable to me, but I just think is worth mentioning. That's it.
Starting point is 01:10:46 A $42 million cap hit, by the way, if two, Tua is cut, whereas a trade saves them $8 million. So they could be in a situation. Would they give up, maybe not the farm, but would they give up picks plus money just so that it's a trade versus a cut for an Osweiler type trade? I think that's what it would take. But I kind of think he's untradable. I, they should be willing to trade draft capital and get off the deal.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Would another team be willing to do that? The Browns, obviously did the Brock Oswaldier train. I can't imagine them paying Tua and paying Sean Watson, but stranger things have happened. Well, there's a couple teams out there with more cap states than you possibly can use. The Titans, the Raiders, the Jets, the commanders.
Starting point is 01:11:36 There's the Bengals, although they never get creative. There's some teams out there that could play some funny money games and just do it. We did it, Bill. This was one of our most listened to shows of the entire 2025. calendar. And so I think it's going to happen again. We'll be having it in prime position over the holiday weekend. I am grateful for your friendship. I'm grateful that we broke bread and got really
Starting point is 01:12:02 messy, eating some Thai wings. It was great. Kin Cow. If you're in San Francisco. So good. That was so good. King Cow, I feel like, was the favorite place of NFL writers during the combat. I feel like more people ate there and posted a battle on Instagram and how good it was. Oh, really? Any other place in San Francisco? I didn't know that, although I did hear of another group that went, the Robert Mays group that went for sure. So you could get reservations. It's just in a hotel.
Starting point is 01:12:31 It's centrally located. And the food's dynamite. But more importantly about your friendship, that you were willing to come out of semi-retirement for a week and a half to do this show, which is like the nicest thing you could do for me. So thank you. Go enjoy your family, Bill.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Thank you. I will. We'll be back. like I said, after the long weekend franchise tag season starts. So I think me and Shook are going to just talk about a little bit about the guys who are going to get tagged. We'll start getting into our top 101 free agents. I got a deadline next week. Can't wait for that.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Football is not back, but this show was. And it was a pleasure to do. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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