NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - The Mailbag Returns, Cutler's Reality Show Greatness & Vacation Shout-Outs

Episode Date: July 11, 2018

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler & Chris Wesseling - are back after a refreshing vacation with a new appreciation for summer break (2:00). The heroes dive into the latest news forum around the league, including some disturbing allegations made against Bills running back LeSean McCoy (12:00), the new grievance filed by the NFLPA regarding the league’s new anthem policy (14:00), the status of Jerry Richardson’s statue in Carolina (16:00), legal trouble for Cardinals GM Steve Keim and a LOT of suspension news. They congratulate their good friend Daniel Jeremiah on his exciting new gig (32:00) and revel in Jay Cutler’s unanticipated greatness in his new role as a reality TV star (34:00). The heroes then answer your burning questions in The Mailbag (45:00).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast doesn't give great fatherly advice. Hey, welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined in a room that's filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler and Chris Wessling. What's up, boys? We are back. Hey, Dan.

Ow! I feel like it's been, we all were away. and there was a point when you leave work for a certain amount of time where I kind of forgot like my sign on to my computer kind of it escaped me what I do here and I was a little nervous to even come back and do this show today because it felt so alien and I continue to be nervous I definitely needed to go away for a little while

from us not from you like you know as you know we do our podcast but I also have the throwback podcast with my friend Bob. And it got to a point right before vacation where I literally could not stand the sound of my own voice. I was like, I can't even hear myself talk anymore. So what did I do? Daddy went back east and unplugged for a little while. And now I'm back and I'm feeling good like, you know, this isn't a Detroit Lions reporting late. You know, Detroit Lions 2017 reporting late scenario.

I'm here early for camp. And I'm already for the season. Let's go. Well, now we're in because there is no more vacation time. And that quickly, that vanished very fast. But Dan, you didn't, you went to the East Coast and you jumped right on good morning football after pounding out a column in a hotel room the night before. I would say, please start doing your vacation in a more leisurely.

Better. Do the vacation better. I have some shoutouts, vacation shoutouts. But before we get to that, Wes, you had something, you know, someone important, I think. You got your tests done, your cancer scans done to see where you are at physically in your recovery from cancer? How'd that come back? Every three months I have to get these cat scans that will say whether cancer has returned. If I've continued to stave it off, you know, just a general look at my body where the cancer used to be.

Everything is in tip-top shape, no sign of disease. Everything good so far. Oh, yeah. But, God, I sweat that with anxiety. every time now. I just don't want it to ever. I mean, Jim Kelly has, I have all the admiration in the world for him.

This is like Mark at the STD clinics in the aughts. It was just like sitting there just sweat pouring down the brow. How is this going to come back? And like with Mark, I'd love to deny that, but I simply cannot. I don't know where you got that information, but it is very factual. Triple source, baby.

Yeah, awesome news, obviously, Wes. So keep doing that. Yeah. Having those type of doctor visits, starting the big sea. I feel better now than I did before I was diagnosed with cancer. You also got some color on vacation. We were on the beach every day for about a week. Well, I hope you're using your sunscreen because too much of that is bad for you too, buddy.

Well, I learned my lesson in my 20s on sunscreen. I mean, I'm so white I make chalk jealous, so I have to lather up before I go to the beach. I hear that. I hear that. Mark, do you have any vacation? activity I have to give you I have to give you credit Mark

you obviously have a beautiful family have a great family shots but you do have that ability and I don't really know too many other people do that you do a lot of like solo mark shots on Instagram which I really enjoy

check out Mark Sessler and you were a man highly refreshed it seemed down by the shore well it was a family reunion and it was the outer banks of North Carolina and I will keep it real quick

to say it was the best vacation I've had since childhood, I think, because it was just super relaxing. A lot of times when you go away from work, and I'm constantly checking Rotow World and it's like endless stuff happening. One year I was gone during training camp, and I had this innate guilt

because I could see that Dan was writing like 13 to 14 posts. It really hung me out to dry in that summer of 14. But this time, like nothing happened almost the entire, well, some things, but very little. So I think it was the perfect week to be gone. Like that was my first shout-out because shout out, things got a little more complicated today.

And we get to that in the news. But shout out to the NFL news cycle around July 4th where I did. I did the same thing. Just check in, see what's going on. And on ESPN.com, for instance, the top headline for like four days was that Eli Manning was auctioning off a Super Bowl 42 helmet. I was like, all right, everything's pretty laid back right now, it seems. All right.

I'm sure a couple shoutouts. Sure. Please. A couple more. Shoutouts to Real Bagels. Missed you guys. guys. I mean, come on. They have real bagels in Cincinnati? Brewers. Okay. Shout out. Shout out to Bruegers. Nice job by you. Shout out to Bruce Springsteen. Now, very cliche, white sports

writer like Springsteen. But I don't claim to be an expert in many things, but I've lived on both sides of the country now for extended time. Two indisputable truths. Tom Petty, another favorite of the old Zeus, sounds better in California. The boss is better when you're in New York, New Jersey. I believe it. And that was a nice reminder, especially. I feel like we got a little taste of the throwback pod right there. A little bit. Shout out to Alaska Airlines.

Didn't red flag our family suitcase despite it weighing an astounding 70 pounds. Whoa. 20 pounds over the way. The airplane comes crashing to Earth. Next time I'm going to stick Jack in there and see if we can save 400 bucks. Shout out to the England national team. They had me very plugged into the World Cup during vacation. And by the way, the World Cup and a crowded sports bar, as we remember from the previous World Cup.

even though Wes lost his iPad and got stuck with the bill. And stuck with the bill. One of the great sports experiences is in a crowded, plugged into the game World Cup bar. By the way, I watched every one of those World Cup games because there's really nothing else to do. I did too. And to have as many of them do go to the extra kicks. I don't know why overtime needs to be two 15-minute chunks. One feels like it would be appropriate, but I'm not going to argue that.

These games were incredible. Yeah. I was killing it last before we went on vacation. The Belgian Brazil game was phenomenal. Yeah. And yeah, and shout out to the Parker House, which is the best bar on the Jersey Shore. Shout out to Shawshank Redemption. Speaking of Alaskan Airlines, every time I fly Virgin and you have to choose between the movies,

always wins the sweepstakes. And Red and Andy Dufrain and tell me if you agree or disagree is now firmly in my mind the greatest bromance in cinema history. history, move over Rocky and Apollo. I think it's such an authentic documentation, not documentation, but a representation of male love between two brothers. I know you would not go Han and Luke there, but I think yours is more real life, pulled from real life, and so I don't.

Well, not pulled from real life, but. Well, I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a story of earthly prison. I think you're really selling dumb and dumb or short here. Shout out to the good morning football crew, Kay Adams, Kyle Grant, Peter Schrager, all very nice to me during my appearance a couple weeks ago when I talked about the Jets. Kay even did because it was in Times Square and it was a real studio. I mean, this is a nice place.

They do in the Rogg shelled out a decent amount of guap to get the podcast studio. It's kind of like the house that Eisenbilt. Probably wouldn't be here if Rich didn't have a podcast once upon a time, but it's here now. Nice place. But the Good Morning Football's new studios, which they just moved in. into is a real television studio and shout out to k who could pick up on the fact that i was basically petrified walking onto the set to do the hit and she did the classic hey dan what's up you know gave me a hug and then took me over to the glass and overlooking timesquare he's like isn't this

amazing which was a really nice gesture but also to me and my effed up head it was like oh she knows i'm nervous and she's doing this to try to set me at ease but it was a really nice gesture by a sweet woman you did a great job i i like there was a noticeable rating spike on that on that program how quickly were you in time square like downing the titos after you were done i would imagine you just run right out and like look back i got on the train i went back to i was staying with my parents and went down to the shore and cut loose at that point as you as you as you would imagine uh what last one shout out to the ocean once again delivers once again delivers and proves itself to be superior in every way to the local swimming pool during the summer months, the swimming pool, the kids pool that's run

by the town where I was staying in Spring Lake. I witnessed a lifeguard dive in and deal with an accident by a child, and then everybody got out. And then I checked in as I was leaving to go to the beach with my family. I said, hey, how long is this closed when this happens? And you know what the woman that worked there said to me? She said, well, it's the fourth accident we've had in the last 24 hours so they're going to have to reset the like chemicals before they reopen so it might take a little longer i was like all right that's it for the pool kids all ocean and the ocean's got a lot more personality so it was better all the way around i i feel like the beach is great the ocean is a killer i mean don't take the ocean lightly that can kill you in a lot

of different no it's it's just much better and one last thing shout out to timing just timing in general missing a savage heat wave probably saved me in excess of like $40,000 in energy bills. It's still here to some degree. It is. I never like 1.15. How hot was it here? Our house does not have air condition and it is an absolute oven. There are ants everywhere. It's a total disaster zone. All right. So there's the shout outs. All right. A lot to get to today. We're all excited to be back. And shout out to listeners too, who I guess you guys said I did not catch the show before we all went on our break. But we were on

a break. But apparently you gave the advice to go dig through the archives. Got a ton of tweets of people digging through the archives. And that just shows our fans are both crazy and cool. Hey, sometimes you have to watch the old movies. You don't have to go to the theater and check out the new one.

Yes, that's very true. Today in the news, we're going to talk about an issue involving the Bill Star Running Back that will be tracking in the league and the country he's going to be tracking closely. Also, some retirement, some suspensions and an unfortunate TSA incident. And then, because we haven't done it in a while, we're going to open up the mailbag

because we missed you listeners so much and because you missed us, as we know from our Twitter feeds. Let's connect. Reconnect. Let's have a conversation on podcasts. Lindsay, how are you? Great. That's great.

Great. A little hat out. You know, I'm still not over this heat wave, like you guys are saying, your house is an oven. My dogs is like, ooh, he's not having this, no air conditioning. Oh, you don't have AC either. No, I live on the marina, so I got a nice ocean breeze, but it's not doing it right now. It would totally suck to be covered in fur over the last couple of days. I think people outside of Los Angeles would have no idea that most people in Los Angeles do not have air conditioners.

Good boy. You only need them about two or three weeks a year, but when you need them, it's miserable. That's absolutely true. I went to buy, like, a portable air conditioner. They're sold out, sold out of fans. Can't even buy a fan, bed, bath and beyond. Got to sit in a cold bath. Yeah, it's an L.A. lesson, and you're new to the city still.

You don't, like Wes said, don't need it often, but you got to be ready when it happens. I went to Home Depot over the weekend, completely out of air conditioners. I went to a grocery store, completely out of ice. This is, I mean, the whole city is dealing with this. All right. But we're here. That just shows. We're grinders.

Always. Let's do some news. Can you just be nice when they come in? I'm going to be neutral. Okay, fine. Well, just don't be rude. Oh, yes. We'll also get to the new J. Cutler reality series.

It's not Kristen Cavaleri. This is a day Cutler show on E. I will get to that. But we'll start first with some serious allegations involving Bill's running back, Lashon McCoy, a friend of a McCoy ex-girlfriend, her girlfriend, not exactly clear on the nature of the relationship, posted a photo on Instagram of her friend bruised and battered along with allegations that McCoy was responsible for the injuries sustained by the woman. McCoy quickly, once this started gaining serious traction

on going viral on the internet, got on his Instagram handle, and adamantly denied all the accusations said he was not even near where the incident took place in Georgia and he was he's been training in Florida. The bills have been in contact with McCoy on this. The NFL is looking into the matter. But this is obviously a situation to track very closely here because the nature of the attack and Milton Georgia police released a statement on some particulars surrounding the issue. It was a home invasion. Two women were at the house. One was physically assaulted by a lone intruder. The other woman suffered minor injuries. So McCoy was implicated by a friend of the woman, but we do not know anything else at this time. So we're going to have more on this,

obviously, in the next couple of days. But as of right now, we can only tell you what has come out from the police and when McCoy is added. So there you go. That's what's going on with LaShawn McCoy. In other news, the NFL Players Association has filed a grievance against the league's new national anthem policy in a statement. The NFLPA said the NFL agreed to hold discussions in hopes of finding a mutual solution to the issue. Here's the statement or part of the statement. Our union filed. It's not injury grievance today on behalf of all players. Challenging the NFL's recently imposed anthem policy, the union's claim is that this new policy imposed by the NFL's governing body without consultation with the NFLPA is inconsistent with the collective bargaining

agreement and infringes on player rights. Wes, this is a situation. I think when this came out and this dropped like a ton of bricks, as we all know, when the NFL announced the new rule, the thing that jumped out to me initially was, how are these two parties not locked in, are not in lockstep? and this situation, this grievance, plays into that fact. It's interesting because when I was in Florida last week, you know, speaking to family members who are sports fans,

but not die-hard NFL fans who keep up with the news. In almost every conversation I had started with, well, you have to check the CBA. You have to check the collective bargaining agreement. It's not always as simple as we should do this or we should do that. It all stems from the collective bargaining agreement. And I think it will be interesting to, see how the NFLPA's case here works with that CBA. I'm not surprised that we get something from the

NFLPA. And it's not, there's a history of the NFL and the NFLPA not being in lockstep. But the, but the silver lining here is that this agreement to work together before it goes to litigation, because the last time the NFL and the NFLPA clashed, it was an absolute nightmare. And this is a issue that has divided the country. And you've got to try to find a way to be a unified front in some form. And the players, the players, the players, players cannot go into this season feeling like their voices are not heard. And just in case you were not aware, this is all, of course, tied into what happened in May when Roger Goodell announced the league when enact a national anthem policy that requires players

and league personnel on the sideline to stand, but gives them the option to remain in the locker room if they don't want to stand. So this is not a story that's going away. We've talked about this. This is going to only heat up as the season approaches and arrive. so we will continue to follow this story as well. Moving on, there is officially a new owner of the Carolina Panthers. His name is David Teper.

He's the dude that asked Ian Rappaport about his hair color. So that was fun. And he took, he had an interview or had a press conference in which he said that with great power comes great responsibility, which was quoting what movie? Spider-Man? Spider-man. man very well i don't know how i thought that was a president who said that uh i feel like it's been used in multiple formats i don't think spider man can just rip off jfk and of course temper takes over for jerry richardson the founding owner uh who uh left the team um after allegations

of misconduct uh while uh serving as the owner of carolina the carolina panthers and there is that giant statue i did not even think of this A couple of years ago, a insanely huge detailed statue of Jerry Richardson holding, I believe, a football out and then a huge-ass panther growling next to him, given the nature of how Richardson left the team, what happens to that statue? Well, guess what? Tepper contractually obligated to keep Richardson's statue in place. According to Rapsh, a source says it was included in the contract terms presented to all the bidders by the seller's lawyer

so sound like a non-negotiable situation. Well, he did a great job. It was about a 25-minute long press conference, and David Tepper took a lot of different types of questions because a lot of it was, what will the new culture of the Panthers be? And I thought he answered those questions, one after the next, about as well as you could expect,

he was comfortable in his own skin. And this was the last question, and someone said, is this statue going to stay up? And if you want to put a bow on everything he had said, you'd like to say, no, it's not, because that's not what the Panthers are about anymore. and you could tell it he was stuck. He started the answer, he said,

well, I'm contractually obligated to him. Yeah, he didn't. I mean, it was an awkward way to end it, and it probably completely sideswiped everything else he said because it was the headline coming out of it. But I just don't understand. Like, it's just sometimes with the NFL, how do you get out of your own way at some point?

How is this, how was this in a contract? Well, yeah, this comes from his lawyers. And it could backfire because if you study history, purpose of monuments or statues is to keep a memory alive often through propaganda. And in this case, the idea is keep the memory of him bringing football to the Carolinas. Instead, it's going to be when people walk by that statue, a memory of what he did that made him forfeit his franchise. With people that are still in that organization that we don't know who, but maybe some of them affected by it have to go to work and see that. I mean, I just think it's like, come on. I mean,

Joe Paterno statue, that was a major situation at Penn State. I believe that came down, as I recall. Yeah, it's hard to separate the start of the tenure and the finish, obviously, but it sounds like the Richardson statue. Roll Remain up. And moving on, Cam Chancellor, the former Pro Bowl safety for the Seattle Seahawks, he's going to stay. Well, I shouldn't say he's officially a former Seattle safety,

but it looks like that's what's going to happen here because he had the chancellor said that the test on his injured neck it's just not progressing the way that everyone hoped they would progress so it looks like a situation where chancellor's NFL career will come to an end it will end Wes a career that after being a fifth round pick this was the golden age of front office brilliance for really any team in recent history how great the Seahawks drafted and their rise to one of the power houses of this early decade. But he was a big hit, fifth round pick in 2010. Great safety, great player.

What made Chancellor so great was? I think most people, when they think of Cam Chancellor, think of a physical tone setter for one of the best defenses we've ever seen. And when you think about that team, one of the perks of our job is going to the Super Bowl and being around these players and coaches. One of the most impressive, mentally tough teams of the 21st century with huge personalities, Richard Sherman, Michael Bennett, even Russell Wilson, Earl Thomas, and Cam

Chancellor is the unquestioned alpha dog leader of that group, and they just look to him for inspiration, for tone setting, to be that lead dog. And I think he was the unquestioned guy there. And I feel like we've seen a lot of things come and go during this podcast. For anyone that wants to go back and really backloaded to the beginning, I mean, that was when the Legion of boom was rising to power and was one of the first truly magnificent defenses that we covered as a group. And you look at that group now because there's still whispers and that's one thing that did gain a little traction while we were gone was that Earl Thomas to Dallas is still in play. It's still something that could happen. It does not look like he's going to get a long-term

deal. So the Legion of Boom right now includes Bradley McDougald at safety. A latter day Byron Maxwell, who is not the Byron Maxwell of old at cornerback along with Shaq Griffin and Justin Coleman. That's your Legion of Boom today if neither of those safeties return. I've got an assignment coming up. Thinest and deepest position groups, and I was shocked to be looking over this and thinking if Earl Thomas goes to the Cowboys,

the Seahawks secondary is one of the thinnest position groups in the NFL. That's amazing. And Mark, I know you've been cranking through your Team X will make the playoffs series, which you and that rank have done really nice yeoman's work there. If you're looking for a new series to write on

as we approach a minicamp, Wes gave me the idea if you did just an ongoing series, thinnest players. Fittest players, I like that. Tavon Austin. I like that. It's really trim men.

I think it would have as much substance to some degree as some of these playoff teams I tried to tout to the public. I am really looking forward to it. It was confirmed before we began taping today. Who will write the Patriot? Because it's one for every team. The Patriots will make the playoffs.

Mark has pulled that long straw. Not the short straw, the long straw. So I look forward to reading everywhere. It's the last one and hopefully I go out on a winner with that one. This is still going on. It has been going on for so long. It's been invading my social media feed, our work inbox. Try being on my Twitter hand.

It is an absolute nightmare. And you're on vacation. You're trying to like make breakfast for your children in a nice little cottage by the sea. and I'm getting sandblasted by people telling me, no, Seattle will not make the playoffs, no the Browns will not. I get it, guys. I get it, okay?

It's an assignment. Sometimes, especially during this time of year, if you are one of those people trolling Mark, sometimes you just got to grind. And he got to knock out a series that features editor Ali Bun Purry. Congratulations on your wedding, pal. He assigns these things out.

He offered it to me. I cannot blame him. Rise and grind. It's grind 30. Get to work. It's grind 30. was my wedding. This is my wedding gift, too, Ali. Very happy for you. I got a bad ticking Kime bomb for you guys. Oh, Kimebom. Yeah, it's not the good kind. The Cardinals general

manager, as you probably heard, his 4th of July was spent in part in a jail cell after he was arrested on suspicion of drunken driving in Chandler, Arizona. The police report, and this, We've got some more details today. According to the police report, Kime told the arresting officer or officers he was the team's director of security, not the general manager. This comes after he was pulled over. And in the report, they could smell a, quote,

strong odor of an alcoholic beverage. Kimes' eyes were bloodshot and watery. He spoke with a slight slur. He declined to take any field sobriety test, citing a bad knee issue. So anyway, this is not going over well, as you would imagine, the general manager of a team getting into trouble with the law during a time where all the teams hold their breath and preach to their players don't do anything stupid during the vacation, NFL vacation. So ownership has already said this is not going to go without punishment. So Kheim, who just signed an extension and in general has done a nice job there, this is not a.

good mark on his resume. Well, and his great friend Bruce Ariens was the guy that used to say before vacations and before by weeks, don't be that guy. Don't come back here and be that guy. And suddenly you are. And I wonder because when it happens to players, they get put into substance abuse protocol. And that can happen with executives to the Broncos, Tom Heckert, and another guy that Matt Russell, who got bang for alcohol-related stuff back in I think 2013. They were suspended. The Cardinals have to figure what to do. This is a general manager. If you suspend a general manager that is impactful this time of year when you're team building and making cuts and additions. Yeah, if he's suspended for games, it's not that big of it. No. Because that's the coach's time of year and not the general

manager's time of year. So it'll be interesting to see what happens there. You ready for some suspension stuff? Just a whole mess of suspense. We have not, yeah, this is our first show. This is the longest stretch we've ever gone without an episode because it went, what, from Friday? Well, other than from like the late 70s to 2013, that was. There was a stretch. No, we were doing shows. We were all doing shows. Okay.

You were at the beach. You're at the beach. No, we have to catch up on some suspension to start Julian Edelman of the Patriots. I think over on the throne of sleeves, some people thought that he might have a trick up a sleeve and had a way out of his four-game ban. Wait. Just because it's the Patriots, there's a trick up the sleeve? Some people being Dan, your host. Yes.

And his appeal was deny. You totally know that Dan cracked open a fresh beer when that announcement came down the tunnel. So he will miss the first four games of the season against the Texans, Jaguars, Lions, and Dobbins. Of course, not against the Jets, but that's just life. But he will be able to take part in training camp and all the Pat's preseason games also suspended.

Get ready. It's running back Aaron Jones. Two games are violating Leeds Substance Abuse Policy. also Rams guard Hamon Brown Jamon Jamon Jem on Joe on very Michael Jackson

first time he was suspended for violating league substance abuse policy and he can return week three against the chargers and guess what

Ruben Foster you all know Ruben Foster's situation he was suspended by a He can not get out of the news. Two games are violating the league's conduct and substance abuse policies. Of course, Foster avoided a much bigger legal mess following multiple offseason incidents,

but he still got hammered by the league. A couple of games he's out. I would like to see a day when marijuana offenses are punished by a slap on the risk compared to more serious offenses that affect the lives of other human beings. but again until we get a new collective bargaining agreement that is probably not going to are you saying west that a DUI incident for instance should be treated with heavier and stronger consequences than smoking a little sticky I was thinking something actually does affect other people's lives as in physical assault whereas a DUI theoretically impacts other people's lives well and

DUI isn't being legalized across the country at a rapid pace right I mean it's just again the league is just out of sync with society. If you do a winners and losers column here, the winner in New England is none other potentially than Kenny Britt who slides into what could be a third receiver role for that team. I mean, stop me if you heard this before, but the Patriots have plenty of options at slot receiver.

And they have like four running backs that can catch the ball too. I mean, please. I also don't want to come off as a stand for the league, Mark, but do you really want to be in step with society right now? That's a fair point. I do in society as well. I do in society is legalizing marijuana.

Not all aspects of society, some aspects. What you chew on that bone? Here's a really terrible story. It's not funny, but it is like one of those, wow, life is pretty messed up sometimes. Giants defensive lineman A.J. Francis went on Twitter and got upset. And he has a good reason to be because his mother passed away at just 46 years old. and when Francis went to take a flight with his mother's remains, his ashes,

a TSA agent went through a suitcase, left open the urn carrying his mother's ashes, and then they spilled. And he tweeted, hey, you pieces of shit at TSA, next time you assholes feel the need to go through my mother's ashes for no reason. Make sure you close it back so her remains are. spilled on all of my clothes. The last you pieces of garbage can do is your job. And you're going to have to hit some bleeps on that

one. But as a newsman, Lindsay, I had to report that. So that is crazy. If you are checking a bag and it's going in a different compartment than the cabin, why must people go through your bag? What of what harm? I mean, what's in your bag that could harm people if it's in a totally different compartment of the plane

that you don't have access? I suppose you could come up with some things that would be harmful to an airplane if they were time to go off at a certain point in flight. But in general, it is the response from TSA that I found ridiculous, too. It was a tweet back, I guess, that simply said, under no circumstances, should the container with the ashes have been opened. That's it. I'm sorry.

Number one, who are annoying people on Twitter? Typically sports writers, but everyone that complains about every airplane they're on. We get it. Your airplane was delayed. X, Y, and Z happen. You're in, it's an annoying group. We all deal with the airline stuff. This is a different category of offense.

And when your response is this cold, I find it like, could you possibly have gotten a human being to connect with this guy? The one thing that sticks out my head, though, is that I would have taken it on the airplane with me. Yeah, you don't check. Something like this. But that's, you know what? Who knows your, the family is going through so much.

Who knows what was going through the mind or how security thought it was. But come on, airlines. Do you know why running an airline has to be one of the most difficult jobs on the planet? Because every airline is constantly apologizing for things. Endlessly. I mean, I just... Be better airlines. It's a hard, yeah.

Airlines are not doing a good job, but it can't be an easy job to do. Not a good story. All right. And this item comes from the Los Angeles Chargers, a missive from the Chargers. I'll read it. The Los Angeles Chargers announced today the additions of pro football.

Hall of Fame running back and Chargers legend Ladanyan Tomlinson NFL network expert analyst Daniel Jeremiah and award winning sports anchor Mario Salas

to the team's 2018 preseason television English language radio and Spanish language radio broadcast teams respectively I missed one of those names

in there Daniel Jeremiah our buddy move the stick maybe DJ he is going to team with Matt Money Smith to call games

which is sounds good sounds like a good team dream team hey we knew about this at the media summit we kept a lid on it despite the fact that I think this is a cool pairing and you know Matt Money Smith took a shot

at our parental advice at the top but I'm going to stay professional and say I think he does a great job that's also just a piece of paper put in front of him It's not like he's going through our show. He allowed it to come out of his mouth. But, you know, typically what they do is they take the play-by-play guy, and most of them have a similar sort of career arc.

And they just stick you with ex-player from the team. And that's fine. I like this move. It's a little different. It says, we're going to get the best analysts we can find. These guys know each other. And he is an ex-Diana played at Appalachian State. He's quarterback, so.

He's almost overqualified for this position. And I think a lot of these guys, if you don't know, he knows the college game. He'll know so much back. It's a great pairing. And I think that like, apparently they're going to hire only people from NFL network, it sounds like. But regardless, they've picked the right team. I think our radio calls are going to be dominated by DJ and money this year.

Great. Jeremiah, by the way, also DJ got top billing in the Chargers tweet. He got the photo billing over Tomlinson. You know, surprised me a little bit. Probably he probably demanded it in his contract. That feels like a Daniel Leverpool. But, you know, despite, you know, despite all that, you know, Daniel's very talented. And he's built a career the right way.

And it's tough for you. He deserves it. I like that along with. But anyway, that's the news. Any guy that, you know, by the time, you're not just satisfied with one job, you have multiple streams of income coming in. Let's check in. so congratulations. I wish we could do that.

Let's check in with the new best show on television. Very Cavalry, or should we say, Very Cutler. The best show on television. They premiered on Monday on E. The show ostensibly is about Kristen Cavalari, the former MTV reality star as she launches her new clothing brand or lifestyle brand. What is it?

Everything James or something like that? Uncommon James. Uncommon James. I have been. in that store. And it's a, poor guy. God, being engaged. That's a tough time.

And it's about Ms. Cavalry, just kind of being a young businesswoman on the rise in the industry. But really, what this show is really about is Jay Cutler, who is the unemployed husband of Kristen Cavillery. And I think there are a lot of curious football fans that maybe wouldn't usually watch the premiere of the E Entertainment Network reality series but Cutler drew them in

and Mr. Culler did not disappoint Can we just hear the news drop again or what we used at the news drop? Can you just be nice when they come in? I'm going to be neutral. Okay, fine. Well, just don't be rude. So that was in,

this is how it, this is his entrance, his grand entrance to reality television Kristen's employees basically coming to the house and he blows them off and then after they leave the house, Kristen has this to say to Jay.

No hi from you. What? No high from you. Give him more buys and highs. I know. Oh, my God. So awkward. I felt pretty comfortable.

Oh, I know you did. You can tell she likes him. Yeah, she really likes him. And Jay is very unbranded in this. And that was my big takeaway. My other takeaway was that as much as we all have fun with Jay Cutler being a guy that's like, kind of unlikable and I couldn't and I was watching with my wife as like this is probably what

I would be like on a reality show if I was in a similar position to him doesn't care completely unplugged but still like his wife likes him and they have a nice dynamic ultimately so I'm kind of team j so far episode one what do you do when you're in this relationship and your wife who you adore and love has decided to hire people based on just the fact that they're cute not that they're qualified they're just cute girls so i'll hire them and you've got wait a second let me just jump in there we don't know that they're not they're we know that qualified we know that the ginger social media person does not like to work at all and as she plays a stinky davis throughout the whole episode yeah yeah so we know that she also said this quote

i don't even look j in the eye anymore because i'm honestly afraid he's going to steal my soul Ben likes that too I think the idea of just Wes having to watch this show makes me very happy Lakeisha must really enjoy watching Akisha was looking so forward to it and I think I didn't ruin it but she knew I had the potential to ruin it for

when she asked me to come in and want I said I have to watch it for the pug I was in your shoes because back when I was first dating Simone and she had a female roommate and I'd go over to that apartment in another part of LA and they would watch the hills on repeat and like the problem with the hills among other problems was so there was no dissenting voice within the show's structure there was again girls doing these internships like

these guys who i found quite hideous jay cutler like if he sees something that we would find somewhat absurd he's just right there calling them out he puts parking cones out on the driveway because he doesn't want them he's walking around with elk meat in a cooler i mean he's just he it all feels natural like when you watch enough reality television you start to pick up what's clearly a setup from the producers and they're going along with it. I completely believe Jay Cutler, with literally nothing else to do at this point in his life,

as an unemployed former quarterback, took those cones out to teach this woman a lesson for parking on his grass. I think Jay just likes eating elk. He likes eating wild animals. He's got nothing better to do. He's not putting on a show. And the other thing is everyone last season talked about Tony Romo

taking that broadcasting job and blowing up the way he did. And it might have been a tough spot for Cutler. I think Cutler would be a great announcer, though. I really do. But we just don't know. This is something, somehow, he found a second career where Jay Cutler was the guy you love to hate, almost sort of a Roddy, Roddy Piper. Like, he is now, I love him now.

And he's saying, I'm going, that guy that you always painted me to be, maybe that was me, maybe it wasn't, but that's the character I'm playing or that's who I'm going to be in public now. And here it fits. Yeah, and it works perfectly. My guarantee is because I fast forwarded through all the other stuff. the singer-songwriter plot, which I've seen in enough reality shows.

You fast-forward through all that. Fast-forward. Anything not color-related. So I can't really speak to the whole episode. You might have missed some good lines. Maybe I did, but I just want to say that my prediction, which is an unfair prediction,

because I just admit I didn't really watch it, was as this show progresses, the Cutler Cavalary stuff will become the focal point of the show if it survived. Well, they see what's getting heat. I would disagree. I think they've already created enough drama

between these girls who are trying to be cute and dramatic, and they're all back... I love you watching this one. Oh, there's two that... One's already backstabbing the boss girl. I mean, there's a dynamic there that they're going to play up, you know. But you know that smoking J. Cutler was a perfect nickname. We had no idea.

Like you said, that that was his personality. We were also treated to Kristen Cavalieri's nickname for Jay Cutler, which is Le Miz. Because when she tells him, oh, yeah, Uncommon James is going to move out of the house. We've got this business. We're going to move there. She expects him to be so excited. And he's not excited at all. She's like, this is why a nickname you Lays Ms.

He's never excited. And I did one thing I really enjoyed was as I'm watching it, I remarked to Emily. I'm like, you know, it's pretty clear. It seems like she's without saying it, she's, it's already on her radar that Jay is just lounging around, not doing anything. And clearly, uh, Cavalari is somebody that's a driven person looking to, to build like a real career and empire, potentially is what her goal is. and it's on a radar that Jay is not looking to do anything. And then it just makes it expressly clear at the very end of the episode. They go out on a dinner date and she's like, Jay, you got to do some work, bro.

You can't just lay around the house all day. That said, is he not brought money to the arrangement? I mean, he's brought, what did he make last year? I mean, he's brought in his, here's a thing. Let me ask you this. You're married, Dan. Would you be allowed if Emily's friends came over and, you know, pranced through the house doing something like this to simply sit on the couch and ignore them and be a total, a total.

total like buzz kill to them? You can't do it. That's part of being married. You got to kind of play ball. That's why I think he has a power that few husbands could ever, ever claim to have. I mean, he's just doing his own thing. Let me ask you guys this as veterans in the husband game. Is there a hierarchy of friends that she has? Like some that, you know, she doesn't really like that much.

You can kind of ignore them. But the ones that she really likes, you can't ignore them. I think you got to put up the front. You got to put up the front no matter who walks through the door. I mean, in my arrangement, they can't ignore anyone, it's general. I mean, general, it's a sociopathic thing to do to just sit there as people like Mill Bayou and have awkwardly,

they're afraid to even look you in the eyes. I mean, shout out to Jay, though. He don't care. I don't know. And by the way, Jay College is what he had to say during that dinner conversation about his future and what he's looking to do. Of course, he was going to go into broadcasting before he signed with the dolphins.

Now he's got nothing lined up except for dropping off his kids at school. here's what Jay had to say. I don't think that you would be happy doing what you're doing for the rest of your life. So have you thought about when you do get bored what you're going to do?

Yeah, no. The music. Okay, well, maybe you should. I'm not really looking to do a lot of work right now. I'm looking to do the exact opposite of that. God bless that, man. Oh, we got a mid-roll read. Here we go.

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One of the unforeseen perks of our job is that we get free bags. You do. Yeah. I give them away. I'm not giving this one away. No, you're keeping the solo. I like it. Why did the two of you get bags and Greg and I,

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That's solo dash ny.com slash around for 25% off. That's a nice discount. Sometimes we do these ad reads and they insult our listeners with meager discounts. That's a quarter. 25 is legit. It's pretty nice. Anyway, let's hit the mail bag. been a while since we hit the mailbag i was hoping to do it uh while greg was here because last

time we hit the mailbag he got on one of his uh jags where he starts going anarchist on a segment and he's like we don't need to do the mailbag anymore he's like no we'll always do the mailbag because it connects us just trying to get airtime here yeah there he is great chimes in uh connects us to our listeners so we sent out a prompt this morning uh so let's go through it we'll start with Stuart Day at Stuart Day. He's a West Ham fan. West Ham. So there you go.

Do you feel the Redskins could make the playoffs this season under Alex Smith? I don't feel like, gentlemen, that there's been a lot of, like, chatter around the Redskins. And it's probably because Alex Smith, nobody ever wants to talk about Alex Smith. But that man is coming off a fine season still in his prime Redskins. Can they make hay in the end of the league? I wrote an article saying that they would. They will make the play. I think so.

This is, it's been weird to see Greg's turn around. The Redskins famously are his least favorite team, yet he has spent the off season talking them up and believing that Alex Smith will take them back. To me, it's, will you be healthy or not? Because they were decimated by injuries last year. Probably would have made the playoffs if they stayed healthy. I think it's like there's a lot of potential. A couple seasons ago, I thought the Redskins were one of the more interesting offenses in the

entire league when they were good and they could do everything well when they wanted to, but it was inconsistent. The defense has been up and down, obviously. I think it matters how that division rolls out. Because if the Eagles are the Eagles again, there's only so many spots, the Giants probably are going to be the kind of team that can steal a game from the Redskins. They can split, and we don't know what Dallas will be.

And if Dallas does its flip-flop where they go 11 and 5 or something, there's not enough room in that division to produce three playoff teams. One thing Dallas has that the Redskins want is an identity. They have the running game and offensive line that they hang their hat on. What do the Redskins hang their hat on? Moving up. The next question comes from Paul Harris II. What coach would you put as the Andy Dalton of the Dalton scale?

I can't remember if we had this conversation. Marvin Lewis. Is Marvin right there? Is he the guy? Yeah. So if you have Marvin. There's a reason why he stayed for 17 years. Well, Marvin Lewis is an idiot.

But you don't stay for 17 years if you're an idiot. He's right there. He stayed for 17 years because the organization can't do better. That's why you're at that line. I think the line, that person sticks around when they're at that line. Who's knocking on the door? To Marvin? Yeah.

As like the... As the Prime Meridian. That's a tough question. I mean... You guys think of that, right? Get back to me. Josh Ellis has this. Jay Cutler is obviously going to be a reality TV star.

We all agree, as you probably can tell. If you had to pick one currently playing, not necessarily starting QB, in the NFL to also have their own reality TV show. Who would it be? Reality TV show for a current quarterback. You get the full experience of this. I'll throw it out Blake Bortles, a man under siege, but also a guy that seems like he's got a little stuff popping behind the scenes,

likes to have a good time. It says he doesn't anymore, but hit up the Jacksonville bar scene. You know, guys are trying to steal his wallet from his pickup truck. in his wallet in his pocket you're a quarterback got to be sharper than that a lot going on with blake boarders i'd like to see what's just going on with blake i would not mind um big ben i think he's really i just think he might be interesting but i if you wanted to do the full thing you're going to get the full family and all the madness going around the person philip rivers has what nine children or something i wouldn't mind philip rivers so squeaky clean though it's like

he's just like a good christian man with 40 kids i i i you're a team there a team LLC shows. Are you covered that? Going up and down this list because then you can go, what, you can go, Cam Newton. I don't want to see Cam Newton on a reality show. Is this specifically starting quarterbacks? No, it does not have to be a starting quarterback.

My list would be dominated by rookies with Josh Rosen first and Baker Mayfield second. I mean, Mayfield has had a reality show and it was pretty engaging. How about Aaron Rogers? I'd like to know more about Aaron Rogers. All right. I feel like I know the appropriate amount about Aaron Rogers. Uh, moving on this is from James Cummins at J.C.

Oh, James ITFC 79. Uh, pick one team that will not make the playoffs this season. Very hard for you, Mark, as you predicted that all 30. Yeah, I'm out. I can't, I can't participate with any integrity. Uh, let me just modify this a little bit. Uh, pick one 2017 playoff team that you feel confident will not be back. I mean, this is too.

It is too easy. It's the bills. Yeah. Okay, and take the bills out of it. That is too easy. Hmm, let's see. Saints, Panthers, Falcons. I think maybe the Chiefs.

Eagles, Vikings. Rams. That's the NFC. Patriots, Bills. Jaguars. Titans. Steelers. Steelers.

Chiefs. Chiefs, that's it. You can tell we did our homework heading into this show. I agree with Mark. The Chiefs would be my choice. I mean, Titans are a candidate. I think the Titans got stronger. I like what the Titans are doing, but the Chiefs would be,

I don't trust the Chief's defense. Dan, you're going Patriots? The West is kind of strong, too. I mean, I think the Chargers are the clear best roster in that division. Yeah, I have to see on the Chiefs. I don't like, you know, the defense still is not something that gets me excited. And like we've said already, who knows. You know you're getting more exciting play

out of your quarterback, but you're also going to get more turnovers out of your quarterback. Let's see. Moving on, this one from Miguel Espino. Who do you guys have winning the World Cup? France, Belgium. They were eliminated today.

So France, England, or Croatia. Is this, are we doing a team of ATL? You want to pick a team of ATL for the rest of the World Cup? I mean, where do we have? the biggest chunk of listeners from England without question absolutely where are we hoping to visit this season again England and I know I kind of walked in sending us to France kind of walked in into a little bit of a sniper fire I had a few drinks at the Parker house and Siegert and and I was watching England in the World Cup and I got excited and I sent out a tweet that I was rooting for

England and got a lot of listeners apparently England is kind of a divisive team. A lot of people just hate the idea of England succeeding and not being this team that always steps on the rake as they have been in the last 20 years or so in this tournament. But I believe we study the data, okay? Do we have some type of, was there a data-related? We had that conversation.

The pronunciation? No, not data data, but in general, something related to the NFL talent summit, some corpus speak related to data there was a data one yes let me see if I can let's get back to me on that I did some data digging and looked at where our listeners come from and by a three to one margin outside the United States it is the United Kingdom

for that reason alone and do not take offense especially the Irish I think the Irish are coming after the old Zusers you you said on this podcast how you have Irish blood how dare you listen I'm not taking this too seriously But I think England has to be that team Even though this whole thing going on with the Bring It Home, that feels a little grading. I don't know if it's a bit.

It's obviously a popular meme right now. I can see how that would rub people the wrong way. Bring it home. Well, they did invent the sport. I get it. Yeah. But I could see how it would rub others the wrong way. I've stopped carrying what other after this series that I've been on.

I've stopped carrying what other football fans think. I certainly don't care what soccer fans think. I'm going England here. Yeah. I mean, it's worth saying in this country right now. You don't get to invent your own facts. England did invent the game. So they are bringing it home.

If that would happen, they would be bringing it home. I don't have any problem with it. Okay. So is that a choice? Did you find, oh, Wes has pulled out the paperwork. Do you have any corpus speak related to data while we're here? I have hope is not a strategy. Do not have anything on.

Hope is not a strategy. Hope is not a strategy. Hope is not a strategy. Pulling on different levels in the marketing funnel. What else is we got? Let's go through these again just for fun. We are defying gravity. Yes, we are.

No silver bullets. Never is. Our daylight. We are running to daylight and our daylight is football. I like that. Let's see. Got too many notes. All right.

Last one, last one, this from Mr. Peachy Penguin. and what song would you attribute to your favorite teams? Mark, a fan of the Cleveland Browns. If we had the rights to play these songs, we would. We probably do have the rights, but our company is very litigious-minded, and they expect others to be the same way toward us, so we cannot play anything.

But what would it be, Mark? Well, I mean, I'm going with where they are right now, because you could go very morbid over what's happened, but I go with Abba's Take a Chance on me. And I went and looked at the lyrics. I heard this over vacation. And essentially, I'll get you through the chorus. But it says, if you change your mind, I'm the first in line.

Honey, I'm still free. Take a chance on me. Basically, like, we get that we've screwed this fan base for two plus decades at this point. But if you go on, it says we can go dancing. We can go walking as long as we're together. Listen to some music. This reminds me of Wes and Lakeish a little bit.

maybe just talking get to know you better because you know I've got so much that I want to do when I dream I'm alone with you alone with the team alone with their fan or fans at this point it's magic you want me to leave it there afraid of a love affair but I think you know that I can't let go I think it's a little push and pull where the fans I know every Browns fan that I run into and myself included you keep saying this is over I'm done with this relationship and they keep inviting you back in and you keep accepting the invitation it's a little bit of a damaged relationship but there's a chance that maybe there's something there. That is well done. And a good catchy song, too. Great song. Better than I, I'd go listen to it. I didn't, the lyrics alone don't do justice. I like dancing queen.

I don't have a deep ABBA fountain to... No, the good song. But enjoy that one. I think you guys should have to sing these replies. Well, my turn is over, so... Wes, you famously do not have a favorite team after leaving the Cincinnati Bengals several decades ago. So where are you going?

Well, I have some fly-by-night-time. teams, but they don't last more than a year. So the only favorite team I've ever had is like the 1980s and early 90s bengals. And I should make the song about that franchise. And I can't, like you said, we can't get one of the greatest songwriters in history, Carol King, to sing the song. I thought about Don't Look Back in Anger by Oasis, but there's one that's more perfect. And I can't get Carol King, but I can get someone else. And it's too late, baby.

Now it's too late But we really did try to make it Oh Wow Something inside has died Oh And I just can't fake it No

No No Wow How did you put that together I simply texted Our former producer Sidney Carlson I was going to say

Isn't that the singer of this one's for John It is Wow And she sent me several voice memos, and Lindsay picked the best one. We're going to get Sidney fired. She's got to be at work right now. I mean, this is not the first time that we've hit her up for a favor for the pod.

What a voice. What a voice. Let's play that out. Let's play the show out with Sid. Also, very fitting. It's too late. Something inside has died, and I just can't fake it. So you're not speaking about Cincinnati's the organization.

It's just your... My relationship to the Bengals. Even though we've famously, I have for many years now, West, said that you will come back one day. You're saying it's too late. Listen to Sydney. She has all the answers. Something has died. I'll go with, and it's a little on the nose, but I don't care.

I was back east. And when you're back east and you're hanging out with Keith Hansis and we're throwing corn and, you know, watching the Yankees or, you know, hanging out with my brother, Kevin and my cousins. Danger. A lot of classic rock is playing. You know, Q104 might get in the mix, the New York Classic Rock Station. So you're going to hear this song. And also my parents, shout out to Deb, they're rewatching the Sopranos right now. Nice.

Going through it. And I ended up watching a few apps with Deb and Keith. And all that said, I'm going to go for the New York Jets. My favorite team, don't stop believing our journey. Because here we are, where we are again, we're all in. now as a fan base and some lines from that strangers waiting up and down the boulevard their shadows searching in the night streetlights people did anybody know that was the line street lights comma people no streetlights people comma living just to find emotion hiding somewhere in the night

don't stop believing hold on to the feeling street lights people so this goes out to all the fellow jets fans out you streetlights people you're all streetlights people like me just searching for the light don't stop believing a call to arms so to speak yes you can definitely say that and I wish I had Sydney performing a Steve Perry hit because

that would be damn amazing but Wes get some A plus well done so there you go and thanks to everybody that submitted questions if we need to get to it apologies I got enough to do three hours but

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