NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - The Most Interesting NFL Offenses of 2025

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by SB Nation's J.P. Acosta to tell you which offenses will be the most interesting in 2025. First, Gregg and J.P get caught up on the news including Joe Flacco being named the starting QB for the Browns (00:57) and Matthew Stafford being back on the practice field for the Rams (05:50). Then, the guys tell you why the Jets (12:10), Chiefs (17:20), Dolphins (23:25), Commanders (27:00), Jaguars (33:58), Lions (40:00), Raiders (45:28), Bengals (48:40), Seahawks (54:50), and Cowboys (56:39) offenses will be the most interesting this coming season.  Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and you've been awesome when we've had you on in the past. And yeah, we're going to get to the most interesting offenses. We'll see how many we can fit in. Maybe it'll be less than 10. Maybe it'll be more. I don't like sticking to that number necessarily. Because first we've got to talk a little bit of news. And yeah, I was looking at pro football reference, JP,

when the Browns made what was the obvious decision to name Joe Flacco the starting quarterback in 2025. And I was thinking like, man, Who was he playing with the first time he was in a starting quarterback competition? He basically was just giving that job as a rookie, but Troy Smith was on that team. Todd Bowman might have been the backup or might have been Troy Smith. I'm not sure. But he was throwing to Derek Mason, Todd Heep, and Mark Clayton.

I mean, he has been in the NFL that long. That was his weapons. And his backfield, to me, was fascinating. It was Willis McGahey, Ray Rice as a rookie. and the leading rusher for that team that year and carries in yards was actually Loran McLean back when they were doing like a fullback running back thing I think he made the Pro Bowl that year

and so that is how long Joe Flacco has been in the league and now he's handing the ball off to Dylan Samson who was probably what about three years old when that was all happening. It's fascinating how Joe Flacco has survived multiple eras of NFL offense. He has gone from the fullback eye formation condensed form of the NFL.

He has played in the spread and shred version of the NFL. And now as we sort of return to the 12 personnel gap scheme, power counterworld, Joe Flacco is still around. I'm starting to believe that he is sort of the anchor being of the NFL universe.

And you cannot have a thriving NFL season without Joe Blacko starting at least three games. No, I remember that 2019 battle he was in with the Broncos and the namesake of the studio. Chris Wesleyan was pretty fired up about that Broncos team initially. Vic Fangio's, Joe Flacco, Broncos. It didn't stay on the tracks the whole time.

But I love me some Flacco because he went from like overrated initially because he was a very good rookie for a rookie, won a couple playoff games to, you know, a guy who didn't always seem like he loved ball that much. He didn't have that reputation. And then, you know, maybe wasn't the friendliest quarterback for Lamar Jackson to enter into a organization with. And then as it's gone on, I think he just realized he has that love.

And look, he is obviously the best option for them for week one. I think we'll see Dylan Gabriel and Shadur Sanders at some point during the regular season, probably in that order. But we'll see. And they're making the case right now publicly, JP, at least through Adam Schaefter, that they're strongly considering keeping four quarterbacks, that they're like leaning towards that. To me, that speaks to like, please someone offer us something for Kenny Pickett.

That's what my guess is. I think that also leans towards Kenny Pickett being the guy that gets the axe here. But on the larger scale, it means we're just trying anything in 2025. We just want to see what works. If one of these guys pans out and they win a few games and looks good, cool. That would be awesome. If none of them work out and they have the worst team in the NFL and they get number one pick, cool. We'll go to go draft a quarterback then.

They are really going for the quarterback. Don't Matter version of the NFL. We do not care who is under center for us just as long as we reach our main goal of figuring out who everybody else is going to be on this team once we get to 2026 when we might actually need a quarterback. That's fair. And, you know, Szafansky talked about

how important developing quarterbacks are and I think they're going to play these two guys eventually. But I just wonder, like, why does this group have so much leash? I don't think they do. I think they need to win some games. Kevin Spansky's proven to be a good offensive coach. He's won two Coach of the Year Awards, which is crazy. But, you know, looking for a year six from Andrew Barry at GM and Stafansky together seems odd to me.

I was going to talk about it later, but since we're on Browns, you know, they signed a player, Isaiah Bond as an undrafted rookie and gave him a fully guaranteed rookie contract after sexual assault allegations were dismissed. And the one thing I'm just going to say on this is like the allegations are dismissed and I'm not saying that this young man doesn't deserve to go look and have a professional career. But I am saying that Andrew Barry and the Browns are a team that has essentially decided to look for an advantage in the market, like get an edge. It's an analytically driven team by going after guys that have. have sexual assault allegations and seeing if they can get a talented player for cheap. And it obviously was a disaster for Deshawn Watson, but it's also not even the only other player

on the roster, Isaiah Bond. So it's just like, why is that the thing that you want to be known for Cleveland Browns? Let's move on to Matthew Stafford. He's back at practice. I actually was a little surprise. He's back in practice. He took 26 reps in full team drills. So I'm not saying the panic is off, but I'm feeling better than I was last week. My first thought when I saw that was the immortal chamber worked. Whatever they had him

in. A mortal. Whatever a mortal chamber, hyperbolic time chamber, whatever they had him in cooking for the last three weeks, it worked, I guess. Like, we'll see what happens. But this is, Stafford being healthy and at least enough

for this team is going to really shake up both the short and long term for the Rams future. Obviously, if he's healthy right now, the Rams are one of the favorites or one of the sneaky contenders to come out of the NFC. They have all the skill talent. They have the pass rush to make it really far

in the playoffs. But long term, you also are set up with the Falcons, 2026 draft pick. So if Matthew Stafford feels like this is the off ramp, if this is the final year and he's going to go out in the blaze of glory, you've kind of given yourself that off ramp like I said, to getting another quarterback in a year where right now it's looking like

there are going to be a lot of quarterbacks available in the first round. So short term, long term, it feels like a good, it's a great thing that Matthew Stafford is actually playing and actually healthy. So shout out to those guys with the Amortal Changes because they probably, they might know something we don't. That was the best branding and deal that they could have advertised and they could have possibly had that he happened to be caught that day at practice, which probably was not on purpose going into the chamber.

But yeah, he announced last week that he is taking over as one of the hosts of the Let's Go podcast, you know, a podcast that's like a radio show and used to have Bill Belichick and then it had Tom Brady. And I'm only mentioning that because it just seems like something, a guy that's thinking about what's next would do. So is this the final year of Matthew Stafford? I have zero information, even heard zero spec. I just think it's, is logical to think that that's quite possible based on the contract that he signed.

But it's good to hear him back. And Sean McVeigh is not making any promises saying that we're just taking a day to day. Wouldn't even say he's practicing tomorrow. They are going to ramp them up. But so far, so good. Good to hear. A couple other injury items for you. You can respond to whichever you find the most interesting of this three pack.

So Jordan Love already back at practice on Monday. That was fast after the thumb surgery. Justin Jefferson will practice this week so that's good to finally hear and then unfortunately that the Chiefs lost their first round pick from a few years ago Felix Anadike Uzama for the season with a hamstring injury. Just a guy who

hasn't contributed much to their bottom line did not get on the field much in the playoffs last year and is now out for the season. So whatever strikes your fancy out of that three-packed, JP? I think the thing I'm most fascinated by is Anadike Uzama going on to the season ending I are, because the Chiefs have had a little bit of an underrated issue at getting pass rush outside of guys not named, outside of guys named Chris Jones.

If they can generate pressure, and I think that's the reason why they drafted IODK Osama because they've been constantly trying to find a guy to be a good compliment to Chris Jones whenever teams double them, but they haven't been able to find that consistently. George Carloptis is a great run defender, more of a hammer on the stunts and the game, that Spaggs likes to play, but they don't have anybody outside of Chris Jones who can really get them a bucket on third downs. So Enidiki Yuzama was supposed to be that guy,

was supposed to be another designated pass rusher, just hasn't, that light hasn't come on yet. And they've kind of, they've kind of scraped by with the margin signings. I think Charles de Meanyu worked for a second there. Still there. He's still there. He is still there, thrive, and survive.

A shout to Charles Domeniou for being the, quintessential complimentary guy he was the compliment to Nick Bosa back on the Domeco Niners teams so they need to find a consistent second guy with Chris Jones and Felix A.O.D.K. Usama

going on season in the IR is tough because that's another high draft pick you sit down the drain and another pass rusher that you really lost for the season. Yeah, these the teams like the chiefs who are trying to keep a dynasty going. We'll get to them in a little bit. Spoiler

alert. You just can't miss much on these picks. Now, you make the trade, you know, when you get rid of Tyree Kill, and then you draft Karloftus and McDuffie, and, you know, that's a home run. But when you miss on some of these picks, like a Skymoor or in a D.K. Zama, it really hurts. And yeah, you think about that edge group. Carloftus is a very good starting edge. But after that, it's Mike Dana and it's Charles Amanahue, and it's a rookie third round pick, Ashton, Gillette. So they hope that he steps up. Yeah, when I mentioned the Bond thing before, too,

it's like Isaiah Bond got double the amount of guaranteed money, for instance, than Ashton Gillette. And that's all. That, like, I understand he should get a job, but like why do the Browns have to be the team

that feel like they're the team trying to get an edge seeking out these players? I just feel like they're telling on themselves. All right. Enough of that. Zavian Howard is back in the league. He's with the Indianapolis Colts. That is not a shock because they are really thin at cornerback.

So the former dolphin gets a job there. DJ Chark, I mentioned a few days ago, not sure if he had a future with the Falcons. He got cut on Monday and then just a couple injury items. I thought it was interesting that, you know, Stefan Digg said to Diana Rossini on the athletic that, you know, he wasn't sure if he was going to play week one. A lot of questions about that in New England.

And all they've stressed is that he is ahead of schedule, but it does remind me of a lot of guys coming off at Torn ACL who are fully clear. and they practice a lot and things are looking great but maybe they're not really all the way back so it's just something to watch there

as they wait for Christian Gonzalez and Kendrick Bourne or two guys also out of practice. I want to get to these offenses. Enough preamble, JP. And I want you to start and then I'll get to my chiefs pick and then people are like,

you pick the chiefs as the most interesting offense just wait and listen. But first I want to hear who you start with. Well, people are probably going to be mad because my most interesting offense is come from the bottom of the league. The first one I'm starting with is the New York Jets. I am so fascinated by what the Jets can be in 2025

because they are sort of doing this thing where we're like, okay, we're just not even going to worry about throwing the ball. We're going to try and have the most athletic offensive line in the league. We're going to have three guys in the backfield who can really be a threat on the ground and in the ground game. One of my favorite, like, quirky, like, season predictions is the Jets lead the NFL and rushing attempts. Because I think they are well set up.

Tanner Inkstrand comes over from Detroit. We're obviously running the ball as a high priority for them. And what we've seen in the preseason is that they are going to move people on the ground. With Olu Fashanu and Armand Membu playing well at both tackle spots, Eliza Vera Tucker is healthy. And now you have truly a three-headed monster back there with Justin Fields. Brayland Allen and Breeze Hall. You're going to be, they're going to be so physical on the ground.

And I think it's going to cause some problems for opposing defenses because of how they've sort of, the Jets are doing this at the perfect time in the NFL because NFL defenses are lighter, smaller box counts. They play the bills twice a year who seem to only want to survive in small box counts and playing nickel all the time, whereas the Jets just want to line up in 12 personnel. They want to run the ball at you. And I think that's going to be really interesting. to see how far they can go

while trying to hide Justin Fields deficiencies as a passer. You are a sicko that you start there. I know that's your type of ball. By the way, they start with two home games. Steelers and Aaron Rogers. I mean, that's spicy. It's amazing that it's not in prime time.

That's a one o'clock game. And then they do have those bills who getting like, try not to overreact to the preseason game, but I am a little concerned with their defense in general, just the defense on the bill's side. So in theory, that would be the matchup that the Jets want. Do you think when, and we're talking kind of offenses in general in the show,

but the Jets specifically are a part of all these teams that are getting heavier? The fact that the whole league is doing it on some level or that a lot of the league is doing it, do you think that's going to like mitigate whatever advantage you get from that? I think it might, but I also think. think with the way the Jets have built this team and who they have as their current starters. I mean, you can try and mitigate as the running the football as much as much you want against the Jets. But you have three legit guys back there who are going to punish you on the ground. I think Braylon Allen and Breece Hall are a really nice compliment to each other.

And then Justin Fields is one of the most dynamic run threats at the position in the NFL. But I think with where defenses are going with seeing how offensive. have gotten heavier. They're trying to get bigger as well. I think the Jets are kind of catching it at the right time because they also have just this incredibly athletic offensive line. I think the Jets' offensive line, it shows in drafting a bunch of first round picks along that offensive line, Fashtonu, Elijah Vera Tucker, Armand Mbou. You have a whole bunch of really athletic guys up front who want to go and hit people really hard. Kyle Long

told me on CBS it is very, it's easy for young guys to buy into the run game because you're using your athleticism. Older guys, you can tell them to sit back and pass protect a lot. Run blocking is a little like, okay, I don't, I don't want to run my head into this wall 40 times game, but

the Jets being able and willing to lean into that physicality in the run game while they try and figure out whatever they're going to do as a passing offense because I'm not super excited about what I've seen from Justin Fields in the passing game in the preseason. Of course, it is preseason. So I'm hedging with that. But I think this team is going to be

very, very run oriented. I want different flavors. I'm totally with you. Like, I want different types of teams. I don't want every team to look the same. The fact that their second receiver is either Mason Taylor, a second round tight end or Josh Reynolds, who would be like a four or a five on most teams, like, it's going to be tough to throw the ball. And you mentioned the athleticism up front. Membu is a guy to watch this year. The oldest guy on that offensive line is probably John Simpson, who's like 28 years old. And man, he is a road grader. If you want to see some like highlight level, like run blocking tape, John Simpson's a great guy to do that 330 pounds. So I'm with you. They're turning it back to like 1984. I love it. Unfortunately,

You know, the chiefs have looked like a 1980s, 90s offense too much lately. So I'm going with them as my most interesting. So I try to do a little self-scouting here, JP on the show. And we have a daily show. We talk about everyone all the time. And I was actually thinking, like, well, who haven't I talked about that much? And, you know, we hit on, like, the chief's offensive line and Josh Simmons and that whole thing a lot. But I feel like we haven't actually talked that much about the chief's offense and team as a whole.

there is Chief's fatigue with me, with everyone. And let's be real. They are doing something in a way that basically no team other than the Patriots have ever done in the history of the NFL. Playing this high level of consistent football deep into January, it's never been done like this. And they've had a good offense still, JP, the last few years, like a top 10 offense.

But it's been more, you know, 6 to 10. If you look at their DVOA, they've been around 8th. And Mahomes was really under pressure a lot. They were third in point differential, JP, in their own division a year ago. They had a ton of three and outs, but when they actually moved the ball, then they held on to the ball forever. So it was not an entertaining, you know, offense to watch. And I think about where Mahomes is in his career.

And there is something to me about getting embarrassed in the Super Bowl that I think there's a human nature of the way that they want to respond, the way he wants to respond. And he has been a different quarterback, JP, in terms of not having the highlight type of plays. The big time throws if PFF is charting it. And I do think he has a better chance to make those type of throws this year with a little bit of help from his wide receivers if they're healthy. Hollywood Brown, Rishie Rice, and Xavier Worthy played exactly zero snaps together last year. And we'll see when Rishie Rice is suspended. If he is suspended, I expect it's going to happen.

But if you get those three guys on the field at the same time, I do think it is the most explosive and the best receiver group they've had since Tyreek Hill left. What do you expect out of this offense this year and how do you think they'll evolve? I expect them to be a little bit more

complimentary to each other, especially in this receiving room. If we're including Travis Kelsey, last year the offense felt so constrained where you didn't have anybody downfield you could trust. You didn't have anybody outside of Travis Kelsey.

in the intermediate game that you can trust. And the offense sort of turned to death by a trillion paper cuts, which, of course, like you said, they were still a top 10 offense by BVOA. They were a top 10 offense in success rate, but success rate is how often you move the chains. And that's where the chiefs asked Patrick Mahomes to be Superman was on third downs.

I think his third down, like conversion rate, especially as a scrambler, was like near like the 70s, as in the NFL last year. So if you continue to ask Patrick Mahomes to be Superman all the time, he can do that because it's Patrick Mahomes. But as we saw in the Super Bowl, if teams don't respect your offensive line

or your receiving core, it's really easy to just go, okay, we're just going to play man and you're not going to be able to beat us. So now with Risi Rice back, whenever he gets back, you have a whole lot more compliment, especially downfield.

I think at having Xavier worthy in another year where he's not exactly going to be the number one receiving option is going to really help him in his development and just sort of the finer details of route running, some of the details of playing the position. I think getting Rashid Rice back is going to be huge for this offense, just in the in-between game. I think Rashid is such a good in-between receiver with his physicality, with the ability to create after the catch. that's going to be something that really helps in this offense if they do continue down this road of being this horizontal spread and shred offense where we're going to kill you with mesh and bubble screens and we're going to throw these quick flat. Let's go down the field a little more, JP. We got to bring the Mahomes back, bring the excitement back. We can do that with Worthy a little bit. I know he's a little better. You know, we got, if Hollywood Brown can ever stay healthy,

he's supposed to be back this week. By the way, what about Tyquan Thornton is making this team? we got a little bit of speed here. You had the speed, but I think that what the Chiefs have sort of lacked in this downfield, it's sort of tilted in a way to where it was, you didn't have anybody downfield you could trust to last year. Offensive line was really injured, going through a lot of issues up front. It's really hard to throw the ball downfield if you don't have enough time for your receivers to get downfield.

I think this is going to be a really talented offensive line. I love what I've seen from Josh Simmons so far. Kingsley Sawamatea has been up and down, especially as a pass protector, and that's going to be a big risk at left guard. But if you have Andy Heck as your office of line coach, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, and then it's playing next degree at Humphrey, that should help be a little bit of a floor razor. So I'm expecting a little bit more downfield. But I also think that this is sort of what the chiefs have evolved into. You got to keep changing, though. And if we're going to compare them to the Patriots,

and I think it's a good comparison just in that, they're trying to do something that almost has never been done, staying at that level that long. You always have to evolve. And I just think Andy Reid's got another move in him. I don't know what it's going to be. Like, I just think they're going to be different. You can't keep existing this way.

And yeah, a great start is just decreasing that under pressure number. I know Mahomes holds on to the ball and everything, but his pressure numbers last year were way higher than they had ever been before. And so if I truly believe, believe that he, Mahomes, is, you know, right at the top of the all-time grades. Like, I just think this is, if you're looking at the career arc, is a season where we get a little more sizzle. That's, that's what I'm expecting. And we'll see if it actually happens. Give me another offense that you're interested in. I'm staying in the AMC East. I'm going to go with

the Miami Dolphins. And I have been fascinated with the Dolphins offense since Mike McDaniel took over. And it's for different reasons that it was when he first took over the Dolphins. They were so explosive when he first got there. He was revolutionizing the NFL with the cheat motion, with all the cool stuff he was doing with Tyree Kill. And then everybody realized that they can't block anybody in short yardage. They are one of the worst short yardage football teams I've ever seen. And I think some of it was early due to Mike McDaniel's inability to develop an inability to change, but now I think it's about the personnel that you have. And I think the dolphins have also realized that they've gotten a little bit more athletic

up front drafting Jonas Savaya and I to play left guard. You kind of change the offensive line configurations. You add Ali Gordon on day three, who's probably going to be your short yardage, your, I hate to call him this because it's not exactly a great player, but he is what Jeff Wilson was supposed to be when you brought Jeff Wilson over from San Francisco. So I think what I want to see from this Dolphins offense, I think the passing game is going to be fine, especially if you get Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle playing together healthy.

But you need some more oomph from the blocking, especially with you tied in, especially with the receivers, because they play so much 11 and 21 personnel, that requires a lot from your receivers blocking. I think Nick Westbrookickekeke, was one of my favorite value signings of free agency because he is such a good blocker

and does some of the dirty work over the middle of the field that the Dolphins have really lacked. The Dolphins offense has lacked an edge. Even when Mike McDaniel was revolutionizing the NFL when he first got there, they have lacked an edge for such a long time. So I'm hoping this year,

even I just hope they get a little bit better in those short yardage, those goal to go situations, just show a little bit more edge and physicality. Yeah, you know, Aaron Brewer has been coming off of an injury, but I believe he's been back on the field, their center. On paper, the offensive line looks pretty good. I know Dolphins fans are very sensitive right now about everyone in the national media, just picking on them and them seeming like, you know, it could all go

very wrong. There is absolutely a world where this offense goes very right. Tyree Kill in a contract year. I think that could be a factor for him. I could see him having like one one great last year, Jalen Waddle. All reports have been really positive with him and healthy and the two of them are as dynamic and fast as it gets. Darren Waller, I'm not expecting a lot, but they're hoping he's returning to practice at some point this week, but it's something you can count on. And like you said, a more athletic, you know, young offensive line with A. Chan really leading the way in the backfield. Like, when he has the time, Tua at this point should have a master's level degree in this offense. And we've seen the difference between him being on the field and the rest.

There is absolutely a world where they make everyone look stupid by putting up a lot of points. But I do think you kind of need not a second move, JP, but you just need to evolve as a head coach. And I think Mike McDaniel, especially in the running game, needs to show that he can evolve. one coach I think did do a good job evolving JP Cliff Kingsbury last year it was a little different did he were you like surprised I'm going to go commanders as my next one were you surprised how they kept it rolling

even getting better towards the end I was definitely surprised I have been a Cliff Kingsbury hater ever since he was at Texas Tech he shut me up last year I was actually really impressed with the way that he was able to keep that offense rolling kind of develop and change the offense and sort of grow with his young quarterback.

And I think that's the biggest thing that I learned from watching the NFL last year. You can grow with your young quarterback. You don't have to throw every master's level QB stuff at him right now when he first gets into the NFL. Just throw the easy stuff at him. And as he grows, as he gets game time, you can start to add more stuff into the offense.

But now it feels like the commanders are firmly entrenched in being one of the better teams in the end. NFL offensively. Well, this is why I find them interesting, are they? I mean, it was one year. And so what are you going to do, basically, for number two? Yeah, that's also been sort of my question with the commander's offense is how will you throw a counterpunch this year?

Because Jane Daniels was really good last year and really, really efficient without turning the ball over. And I think that there's probably going to be some turnover. there's probably that's probably going to happen it happens in the NFL but i think what's really going to help them for of course outside of terry McLaurin being back on this team is if you get a healthy debo samuel to do all the rPO stuff because that's really where this offense is built it is built on the rPO game kind of spreading everybody out and being able to use jane Daniel's legs as a threat in that area,

it really has to be Debo Samuel that can be the guy that he's always been before 2023, 2004. Right. And he's kind of come and gone really since 2019, and it's gone up, it's gone down. Like, he's had moments. I just wonder, like, how does their profile change this year? They were really unique in what they did last year.

Cliff Kingsbury always plays at a really fast pace and these numbers are from the FDN Almanac of the football outsiders, you know, by Aaron's shots. They went no huddle more than 62% of the time. The next closest team was 28%. It was a team that was not great throwing over the middle. That was a little bit of a knock on Jaden Daniels when you were comparing him to Drake May, let's say,

coming out of college, not great over the middle. Well, they didn't really throw over the middle much. It was all to the outside. and teams, when they went against them, for such a good running team, they played single high a ton. And you do wonder if teams will adjust to Jaden Daniels as a scrambler because his scrambling, JP, it wasn't really the run game, like working him as part of the run game. A lot of it was just the scrambles. His scramble yards and first downs and everything, was so far above any other quarterback.

And so teams were playing them with the single high. They weren't trying to prevent like the big play and they took advantage of it a lot of times with Jaden Daniels scrambling. So they did not throw the ball deep very much. Would you think of Jaden Daniels? He's such a great deep throw, but they really didn't.

That wasn't what they did well. And so they're just a interesting concoction of like strengths and weaknesses and maybe it can all work again and maybe they've got a good 2.0 plan. I think Jane Daniels has shown he's ready to handle just about anything. But I'm just curious what you think it might look like this year versus what it looked like last year. I'm also curious in what this offensive line is going to look like, especially with Laramie Tunzel, who has the pedigree of being one of the top 10 tackles in the NFL.

But last year was brutal by any standards, but especially his standards, especially from the pre-snap penalty perspective. A whole lot of false starts, illegal formations. He was penalized a lot last year, and maybe that's going to change with being in a new environment. You draft Josh Connerly to play right tackle. You move, I think Brandon Coleman to left guard. You bring him back Sam Cosmy from injury.

I'm very curious on how this offensive line grows, because if you're going to spread teams out so much, and you're going to play all the RPO stuff that you're not bringing. any extra blockers in the run game. It is really five on five in the run game. And that's why Jane Daniels has a scrambler. That's why Jane Daniels is a run threat matters so much because you're easing some of the stress on the offensive line. So I wonder how they're going to be able to keep the run game efficient, especially in

the running back runs area where they just weren't that good in true running back runs. Maybe Jacoy Crosky Merritt. Let's go. Maybe that's a thing. Bill. Bill gets a mention on the show. I love it. Shout out to Bill. I'm curious by Bill Kroski-Marrett.

I think he can be really fun in the offense. If they can generate some more success with their running back runs, maybe that'll help alleviate some of the stress on Daniels as a runner and help kind of open up more lanes for the offense. Yeah, they're just such a unique team because you add tonsil. and it sounds like Sam Cosme their all pro guard will be back they hope this season

earlier than you would expect considering how serious his knee injury was and yes you did draft Josh Connerly to play right tackle for this team but it's an older team you know you add Debo Noah Brown is probably your second best

true wide receiver so without Terry McLaurin back on the field he's like your number one almost in terms of running like the traditional stuff Brian Robinson as we're taping this. It's Monday afternoon. They're going to actually play a preseason game tonight. Brian Robinson's not in that game and people

are like, hmm, are they, you know, there's some buzz that they might be looking to trade him. You know, Zach Ertz is still really involved here. It's a very old team mixed with Jayden. It just, I find them very interesting. You could tell me, they're top five. You could tell me they take a big

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I was going to talk Jags. But to me, you're more of like the Jags expert here. I know you've got it all set up for me. Oh, yeah. This is, I have spent so many weeks and months leading up to the season emotionally hedging for the possibility that the Jaguars are just not good, which for my entire life, they have not been good. But I actually think this offense is going to be really.

fun and it's going to be a legitimately good offense. If I'm using what they've done in the preseason as sort of the barrier for what, barometer for what Liam Cohen is going to bring to this offense, it is so much more precise and there's so much more detail within the offense. There's an idea of what's going on. I think last year, there was a whole lot of what are we trying to do. There's no straightforward vision of what's being done. So now, Liam Cohen running the offense. There's a straightforward vision. There's an idea.

There's a whole lot more yards after the catch opportunity. I think this skill position group is going to be really fun. It's really fun led by Brian Thomas Jr., who I think is fantastic, going to have another great year this upcoming year. Travis Hunter is obviously super fun every time he touches the ball. And you can tell when he touches the ball, he is looking to make a big play. And it's evident every time he gets it after. the catch. Brenton Strange has actually really impressed me during this preseason. I was never of

the belief that Liam Cohen used his tight ends very much in Tampa. I think that that's probably because of how Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and the running backs were used. But Britain Strange is super athletic. He's played a lot of plays in the receiving game, especially underneath. And now the offense has layers to where Diami Brown is the vertical explosive guy. You have Brian Thomas Jr. and Travis Hunter is sort of you're in between doing mostly stuff after the catch. You have Brenton Strange as you're underneath. And then you also have this running back room, which is really talented, not even include guys like Beissel Tutin, who shows that he has the juice when he runs.

There's just a different feel when he has the ball in his hands. He sort of like bounces around when he runs the ball. And I think it's super cool. So I'm really intrigued by how all this mixes together. I think Trevor Lawrence has played really well. this preseason outside of just one hospital ball to Brian Thomas Jr. against the Steelers. He has been incredibly efficient, razor sharp. I think the footwork has been much cleaner. So I'm, I'm in on this Jags offense. I know it's sort of easy to say as someone who's a Jaguars fan,

but as someone who has been emotionally hedging against this team possibly to make sure this team isn't bad. I think this offense is going to be really good. Yeah, I am optimistic. Maybe not as much is Liam Cohen on day one. And there's a lot of ideas here, right? You have a lot of ideas in the front office with James Gladwell. You have Liam Cohen, obviously. You have Grant Udinski,

like one of, if not the youngest offensive coordinators in the league who comes from Minnesota, who's younger than half the players here. I do love that, you know, when you first signed Diami Brown, I'm like, man, that's, is that a lot for Diami Brown?

And now you kind of think about it. It's like, no, he's a role player. Roleplayer is now make a $10 million one-year contract. That's actually like your fourth option in the receiving game. That, as you say, is adding layers. And the thing I've liked out of Trevor Lawrence is that it just seems to be thinking a little quicker. We got to see it when it's a real game and you're facing real defenses, obviously. But I love hearing that you think the footwork is cleaner and there's just a lot going on.

Now, I will push back on, you know, they haven't been bad all your life. I talked to Dante Fowler last week. Now, the offense wasn't amazing, but Blake Bordell's was pretty efficient. 2017. So you had one year that you could enjoy. I very much remember the Tommy Bohanan full back up the middle touchdown against the Steelers. I was able to

brag to all my friends that the Jaguars finally went in and did something really cool. I am I was a super big fan. I'm a super big fan of that team just in the way they played. But I think that is one of the like three seasons.

Yeah. It's been pretty rough. it's been rough but this offense is going to i think they're going to be really cool watch day in day out the screen game has been really fun whether it's been the slip screens to bigsby or etienne there's been a lot of quick game to travis hunter and i think that emphasis on yards after the catch is so much different from what doug pearson and press taylor were trying to do last year which is we're not going to make this easy at all we are throwing the ball 50 yards downfield, which I think Trevor Lawrence can do, but you want to give your offense easy buttons. And I think this offense, of course, in limited time in the preseason, but the premise has been

to give your quarterback easy buttons and options, especially if the first read isn't open. And I think that's why Trevor Lawrence has looked so much crisper, so much cleaner, is because he has those easy yak buttons to press. And they're in the AFC South. I think it matters because I think the Colts and the Titans have a chance

to be two of the worst teams in the AFC. I think they have a chance and I think that matters. You get four games against them in general. The schedule is forgiving. The Texans are dangerous.

I don't think they're the Ravens or the Chiefs or the Bills going into the seasons. They're dangerous, but I think that's an advantage and yeah, I think they're just going to make

more sense in general. I'm going to go with the line And again, I'm, I'm picking a lot of the better teams in a league from a year ago because I actually don't think we've talked about them enough. I mean, they were averaging, you know, 33 points a game last season. It's just absolutely preposterous. And you've got, you know, eight starters back or eight starters rather that are from these recent Lions draft classes like this regime. That's amazing. And the three that aren't are Jared Goff, who you obviously, feel very good about in terms of how he fits in this scheme and with the talent around him. Like, he's not a top five quarterback and there have been moments including in that Washington game a year ago where he made some big mistakes and that that worries you. But the fact that you have this combination, I mentioned the eight starters. And I'm counting Isaac to Slaw as a starter already as like a third

receiver. That's my projection for like week 15 because otherwise you're counting Tim Patrick as a starter. and I think Isaac DeSlaw in the end will have a bigger role. The only older guys on this entire roster are the offensive lineman Graham Glasgow and Taylor Decker on the offense. And I just think people are like, if the window's closing or, you know, this or have they missed their opportunity, they are the envy of every team in the league. If you can ask for one thing, it would be to have continuity and youth and talent all at the exact same time with the with the way that the collective bargaining agreement is set up jp it's almost

impossible to do that and keep it for long and the lines have it right now they i think they are ready to show that it's not all about ben jonson you know dan campbell is definitely striking that you know drum beat like throughout the the preseason that he is ready it's a prove it season for dan campbell and there's really every reason to believe because of that youth and their continuity that they can do it again this year. I actually think Dan Campbell doesn't get enough credit for what he's done, especially with that offense. I think he had more of a say in the operations of that offense and people gave him credit for.

And that's because, you know, you don't associate Dan Campbell with being offensive mastermind. But when you think about what the offense wanted to be and what the offense wants to do, I think Dan Campbell has to take, get some credit there outside of Ben Johnson. But when you look at what this offense is and what they are from a roster and talent acquisition standpoint, this year, like you said, is sort of setting up to be a Brad Holmes flex year. Like this is why this is why I get paid the way I do. This is why everybody thinks I am one of the best GMs in the league because of the way that he can draft and the way the Lions draft and develop to get guys in the starting spots. I think Christian Mahogany played well in his spare time and now he's going to be a starter. Tate Rattlidge moving over to guard is going to be really, I thought they tried him at center,

which I was like, that's weird. And then they're like, never mind, we'll move him back to guard where he naturally played at Georgia. So I'm really intrigued by how they can sort of mitigate having two first year starters along the offensive line. And I think that goes back to Jared Gough. I think Jared Gough being the guy now where he has had a complete and total mastery of this offense to where I think he's going to be the one setting the protections, making the checks, and getting everything aligned up there. Whereas I think he and Frank Ragnow sort of shared that with Ragnow gone. I think that's mostly going to be on Jared Gough's shoulders.

But this offense is still incredibly talented and has the ability to put up so many points on so many teams. They are going to be dynamic. You mentioned Isaac Tzla. I, you know, I was initially like, oh, that's weird. they draft them in a third round. But if you're big, tall, and fast and don't drop anything, that's going to lead you to some success in the NFL.

You don't have to be a superstar. But if you're big tall, fast, and can catch, you're going to play. And I think Tussla is going to play a lot. You saw the boxout touchdown against the Dolphins. I think that's going to be his sort of area and where he wins this year. But this Lions team is still going to be really good. Yeah, the overall idea of the draft picks that I brought up is just think how many guys could be peaking. Now, Isaac Slot, he's a rookie. He's not going to be peaking.

Jameson, William, ready to do that thing. Like, he has steadily gotten better and better. Amon Ross St. Brown, like squarely at the top of his prime. Panei Sewell, squarely at the top of his prime. Jamir Gibbs, I think the running back timeline is different. To me, he's hitting the top of his prime. He could be an offensive player of the year type of candidate. Sam LaPorteur entering year three.

It's guys that are getting better, ideally all at the same time. So I'm really excited to watch them. And we'll see. Like, you don't need to evolve it that much, but I think they'll be looking to evolve it, you know, somewhat. The, you know, average depth of target for golf was just so low last year. The play action is always going to be high.

You'll see if he can do a little more on the sidelines. You know, they barely throw to the sidelines last year, but I'm excited. All right, we got to pick up the pace slightly. if we want to get through all our teams. Maybe we won't. Maybe we will. Give me another offense.

So speaking of evolution, I am going with what I call the unction in the NFL. I love the Las Vegas Raiders. I think that this offense is going to rock. And I think that it's going to rock because they have built through the draft and sort of found this identity of we're going to be really tough to tackle. No matter what happens that you're going to have a really hard time tackling, I think adding, Ashton Janty obviously is one of the biggest feathers in the cap that in that area and he's going to affect the passing game, the run game. You've already seen the Raiders try and get him involved in the screen game and underneath.

I think the way that they have sort of built the layering in that offense, Dante Thornton becoming the starting third receiver is huge because he is going to occupy that vertical plane of explosiveness. He really didn't do anything else outside of that at Tennessee. He was asked to run posts and goes. And when you, like I said, when you are big, tall, and fast, that works in the NFL. You can find a role there. But I think you're opening up so much of that area for a guy like Brock Bowers, who now that is, now that he is bald, I think we need a new nickname for him.

I'm going with Stone Cold, Brock Bowers. Ooh, okay. We got to go stone cold for Brock Bowers. I think Jack Bess, when he, when he starts coming along, is going to occupy that intermediate area. Jacoby Myers is also going to be really tough to tackle. But this team has an identity on offense. And you're led by a quarterback in Geno Smith. What's the identity?

The identity is yards after the catch, physical, and tough to tackle. I think that's going to be their, that's going to be their MO. If you look at sort of what Chip Kelly did at Ohio State this past year, of course, the collection of talent was drastically different compared to, you know, the Raiders collection of talent compared to the NFL versus Ohio State's compared to the rest of college football. But their idea was we were going to be physical. We're going to try and beat you up.

And then we have guys who are incredibly tough to tackle. So I think having all this collection of talent that's going to really occupy this middle of the field, underneath area, and we're going to try and make it really hard for you to tackle us through 60 minutes and then ask your quarterback to make some of those high-level deep throws that Geno Smith has shown he can make. I think this offense is going to be.

like really good and they're probably going to have to be because the defense isn't going to be that good. But I'm excited to see what this offense does. I am too. I've, you know, we've been talking up the Raiders and they're just one of those teams that are fascinating to watch us here. And I love having Chip Kelly back in our lives. I think from a fantasy football perspective, the fact that their defense is going to be so bad in my mind is only going to help this team out. I do fear as a Gino guy. it's going to be a lot of like fourth quarters where they're down by 10 and he's just slinging it

and there's going to be a lot of interceptions and there's going to be a lot of big plays. I don't know though. You're really counting on the scheme to help out this offensive line. I think on paper it's a pretty average group in terms of talent and help out at least the perimeter

receivers that'll be along with Gino Smith. But you're absolutely right that. Over the middle of the field, they should be nails. I'm going to go with the Bengals as my next team. And the reason I want to put them as interesting is can they be like the Colts under Peyton Manning a little bit?

Maybe even the bills in the 90s. And why I point out those two teams are like, they kind of just did what they did every year, right? They didn't really evolve, but they were just awesome. You know, the Colts kind of just did what they did. They were extremely talented. They had the right quarterback leading the way.

Same thing with the bills. They had a very specific way of attacking defenses that no one looks like now. Manning is more of a comp to Joe Burrow, point and shoot. And I just wonder because is this an offense that is going to change much? Do they need to change to stay at the level they're at? I'm worried about their offensive line in general, but maybe I shouldn't be. Like when you look at what they do from a schematic perspective and kind of how they approach playing football,

do you think they need to be any different? Or can they just be the same group that they always are and kind of the same type of attack with just Joe Burrow, you know, in that shotgun and spread out and making decisions? Because when they try to go under center, JP, it never worked out very well. The numbers are terrible. They're as pass happy as any team in the league.

And it has worked. So can they be one of those? teams that we remember in two decades that is that consistently good every year doing the same thing over and over. So I do think they need a little bit of evolution from their offense. And it's not in any way towards the passing game. It is like you said, it is that I guess you'd call it the siloing of their under center versus shotgun, where if they're under center, they're running it. If they're in shotgun, they're passing it, I think involving a little bit more gun run is going to help this team. If you're in the shotgun and can run the ball effectively, one, it's really hard to do

in the NFL or at any level of football to be in shotgun so exclusively and run the ball well unless you have a running threat at quarterback or the best offensive line in football. So I'm curious on how they're going to do that. If they can just add a little bit more variety to their run game at a shotgun, it's going to really help them out. But really as a passing team, you don't really need to do much. Like you said, there's not much evolution that has to come from this group when you have the most dominant quarterback receiver threat in the NFL right now. I think another thing that's going to really help this team is keeping Amarius Mims healthy,

right tackle. I think that he is such a talented, talented player, but he just can't stay healthy. He can never stay on the field. And that's an issue for an offensive line that is already sort of operating by, bits and bobs we're going to try and bring in dalton risner for a visit here we're going to try and put cody ford here we're going to try cordo vowson there like there's there's so much of the we're going to try and just get by on the offensive line because joe burrow is such a good sack avoider and you you already have two of the best two of the best receivers in the league

but I think they can evolve by just making Joe Burroughs life a little easier. I totally agree and yet it feels like we're a little bit back in the 2021 season where to me there are, you know, the tackle positions better overall, but there are major questions because if MIMS misses any time, it is a cliff to the third tackle. They're trying to figure out who that would be. It's probably Cody Ford who had been playing guard and, you know, I listened to the local coverage there and they think it's already almost a,

five alarm fire in terms of the injuries of the depth that they have and the interior of their offensive line. And I saw those Brady comments. You know, it's like he does come off a little bit as an angry old man talking about the quarterback position. And when he was talking about that he doesn't want to be a quarterback that's, you know, you got to be a quarterback that's hands on, that you're doing, you're making these changes. You're meeting with the coaches. You're, you're, you're saying what plays that you want. You're yelling at people. And I was like, who is he talking to if you want to?

And to me, I was like, is he talking? Did he just watch quarterback? And is he talking to Joe Burrow? Because Joe Burrow is very different. Joe Burrow is like, I'm not going to be the guy that's going to tell the guys that that's do it wrong, that they would need to do it wrong. And the job's hard enough. And I don't think if he was talking to Joe Burrow, that's right to do so.

But I do get the feeling that Joe Burrow is a little more hands off. And yet they make sure to build the offense. like around his strengths. No one ever talks about like what Zach Taylor does from a schematic perspective but I don't get the sense that it's Burrow like dictating everything.

I think it's them trying to play to his strengths. And you mentioned the running game. Like I'm huge on Chase Brown. Spoiler alert where you've got a fantasy mock draft later this week coming up. I love me some Chase Brown. A lot of that is because of the receiving game but I'm going to give you some stats

before we go to our next offense that is the most interesting of the season. The Bengals. versus expected in terms of passes and runs led the league in passing versus expected,

JP, on second and long in power situations while ahead, while behind. Like, that is everything. Every single thing that there is, basically, like, while ahead and while behind, you lead the league in passing versus expected.

The only stat that I could find, and this is all from the FTN Almanac that they weren't first, was on first downs, they were actually, you know, second in terms of passing over expected. So they are as, you know, pass heavy as you can possibly be. Let's do a speed round to wrap it up. I'll give a quick one first. Seahawks.

It's not just because of the preseason. It's partly because our producer, Chris Vona, wanted me to give a little love to them. But they've got some talent on the offensive line between Gray's Abel and Charles Cross and Abe Lucas. Look, it's going to be two wide receivers on the field. Clint Kubiak led the league in that last year with the Saints. And it's going to be, you know, Cup and JSN on the field together. Do they fit together? I don't know.

Is Ken Walker a scheme fit? I don't quite know. But to me, they're going to be really fascinating whether they can make this offense work around Sam Darnold and whether he can build just career arc-wise off what he did a year ago. The Seahawks are bringing sexy back. They're bringing the fullback back to the NFL. This is the game that I am here for.

Robbie Oots has been one of my favorite rookies to watch because you can tell when he comes into the game. I hope the Seahawks fans really kind of play up to the Robbie Outs name, kind of like the Packers did with John Coon, because I think that would be incredible. But you can tell that the offensive line really meshes a lot better with this offensive scheme, with this system. The movement skills of Anthony Bradford,

Gray Zabel has been really good. I think Jalen Sandell is pushing Oluo attendee for the center spot and that's because they can move really well on those wide zone runs and that's really where Sam Darnold is effective. You want to mitigate the amount of times Sam Darnold has to be the, you want to mitigate the amount of times that Darnold has to take the reins of the offense and move the ball by himself. And I think you do that through a successful and efficient run game and everything that I've seen this preseason has been leading up to that point of them becoming a really effective team of.

the ground. All right. Give me your last one. One you got to get it. I have unfortunately fallen for the Jerry Jones propaganda train. I'm going with the Dallas Cowboys. I am so fascinated by what they can be and it's partially because of who they brought in as office of coordinator. Clayton Adams, the former offensive line coach at Arizona. I am all four offensive line coaches being promoted to offensive coordinator. They are going to do a whole lot more 12 personnel, 13 gap scheme. That is what Arizona did. But I think it's going to help in Dak Prescott not having to do everything in the offense. I've talked so much about widening the margin for error for your quarterback. And I think Dak's margin for error was so small in that offense because they had no

running game. They had no commitment to the run game. They had one receiver. And now you have compliments. Like a run game that should on the offensive line, the offensive line should be good enough. I know Tyler Guyton is going to miss some time, but when Guyton is back, that run game, that offensive line should be fun. I'm worried about what they're going to do at running back. But the receiving group, if George Pickens has his head on straight, that is an incredibly complimentary group. You're thinking of, when you think of George Pickens fit in this offense, you're thinking of the best years of Michael Gallup, where you throw the ball to him on the sideline, every 50-50 ball becomes 70-30. You know, I think that's something.

that the offense has really missed, but I'm excited to see what this offense does, and I'm intrigued to see what they do in 2025. Yeah, one of the, they're one of the teams in week one that I'm most curious, because I don't, what is the Clayton Adams effect going to be? Is it going to be more Schottenheimer?

What is the Brian Schottenheimer offense in 2025? I don't really know, and that's why I think they totally fit on this list. And who knows, maybe one of those Jaguars running backs, Bigsby, or E.T.N. Maybe they shake loose before the beginning of the season, and the Cowboys would be a logical landing spot for them. JP, you did.

a fantastic job. Appreciate you. And check out J.P.'s work at SB Nation. We'll get you on again soon. Of course. We will be back in the studio next for QB Island. But that's not the next show that you're going to hear in the feed. Forties and Free Agents with me and Daniel Jeremiah.

Talk about all the pickups in the offseason. That's next. Then QB. Island, me, Jordan Rodriguez, Steve Weish. By the way, I owe you Atlanta Falcons and your fans. Later this week, I'm going to talk about you and your offense because you are fascinating. Football's back. Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here.

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